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-Land of the Free
This Week in Guns, January 21st, 2017
2017-01-21


By Chris Covert
Rantburg.com

Happy Freedom Day +1!

Now that Donald Trump has been sworn in as President of the United States, chatter will likely increase along with a push for a national reciprocity law. The law has been the centerpiece of the National Rifle Association's legislative agenda, but there are problems.

One of the problems is the potential imposition of nationwide standards by Congress for carrying a concealed weapon. I have been reading arguments with supporters of the law that training should be required to concealed carry.

I think the law is a potential minefield legally. Challenges to the law would put the Heller decision in play again, wanted by the left, only this time as a cage match. Something would emerge when the smoke clears, but I am willing to bet it would not be Heller.

It would be a good thing to require all states to recognize carry permits from other states, but if Congress is going to do that, why not go all in? Require Constitutional carry, permitless carry, which should be the law of the land in any case. Such an imposition would be Constitutional and proper in a free society.

The US Army has selected the Sig Sauer P320 as its main service sidearm. One of the advantages, it is said, of the new selectee is that the weapon can be converted between 9mm, .357 Sig and .40 S&W cartridges, presumably with a change of barrels, bolts and magazines.

You can accurize the Mosin Nagant rifle to one minute of paper plate at 100 yards now. I can hardly wait.

Loads.

Rantburg's summary for arms and ammunition:

Prices for pistol ammunition were steady. Prices for rifle ammunition were mostly steady.

I added one new class of pistol ammunition, .38 Special, and three new rifle rounds, .30-06 Springfield, .300 Winchester Magnum and .338 Lapua Magnum

Prices for used pistols were lower across the board. Prices for used rifles were mixed.

New Lows:

None.

Pistol Ammunition

.45 Caliber, 230 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (4Q, 2016)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .24 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .24 per round (From Last week: -.01 Each)

.40 Caliber Smith & Wesson, 180 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .22 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Ammo Mart, Legendary, RNRM, Brass Casing, reloads, .19 per round (From Last Week: -.02 Each After Unchanged (4 Weeks)

9mm Parabellum, 115 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (8 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .15 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: FedArm, Own Brand, TPMJ, Brass Casing, Reloads, .15 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks))

.357 Magnum, 158 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (4Q, 2016)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .25 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel casing, .25 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (4Q, 2016))

.38 Special, 158 Grain
Cheapest, 50 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Own brand, LRN, Aluminum Casing, .26 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 rounds: FedArm, Own Brand, TMJ, Brass casing, Reloads, .24 per round

Rifle Ammunition

.223 Caliber/5.56mm 55 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .21 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .21 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)

.308 NATO 150 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (8 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .34 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .34 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (7 Weeks)

7.62x39mm AK 123 Grain, From Last Week: +.04 Each
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Ammunition Depot, Wolf WPA, Steel Case, FMJ, .25 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: SG Ammo, Wolf WPA, Steel Case, FMJ, .22 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (6 Weeks))

.30-06 Springfield 145 Grain
Cheapest, 20 rounds: J&G Sales, Wolf WPA, Steel Case, FMJ, .65 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: LG Outdoors, Wolf WPA, Steel Case, FMJ, .59 per round

.300 Winchester Magnum 150 Grain
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Prvi Partizan, Brass Case, SP, .87 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 200 rounds: Ammo Liquidator, Hornady Whitetail, Brass Case, SP, 1.07 per round

.338 Lapua Magnum 250 Grain
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Federal American Eagle, Brass Case, JSP, 2.30 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 200 rounds: Target Sports USA, Prvi Partizan, Brass Case, FMJ, 2.40 per round

.22 LR 40 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds (10 Box Limit): Natchez Shooters Suuply, Federal, RNL, .05 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 325 rounds (2 Box Limit): Ammo King, Federal, RNL, .06 per round (From Last Week: +.01 )

Guns for Private Sale
Rifles


.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $510 Last Week Avg: $500(+) ($616 (2Q, 2015), $468 (7 Weeks))
Arizona (122, 121): Bear Creek Arsenal: $575 ($600 (2 Weeks), $500 (3 Weeks))
Texas (318, 338): DPMS: $500 ($700 (1Q, 2015), $350 (2Q, 2015))
Pennsylvania (176, 166): Mixed Build: $425 ($700 (2Q, 2015), $300 (3Q, 2015))
Virginia (206, 199): Smith & Wesson: $550 ($750 (1Q, 2015), $415 (6 Weeks))
Florida (454, 454): Anderson Arms: $500 ($650 (2Q, 2015), $380 (1Q, 2015))

.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $920 Last Week Avg: $980(-) ($1,359 (2Q, 2015), $820 (3Q, 2015))
Arizona (30, 40): DPMS LR-308: $750 ($750 (2 Weeks), $650 (3 Weeks))
Texas (92, 86): DPMS: $850 ($1,500 (4Q, 2014), $700 (25 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (38, 40): DPMS: $1,000 ($1,600 (10 Weeks), $700 (3Q, 2015))
Virginia (48, 50): DPMS: $1,000 ($2,750 (1Q, 2016), $800 (4Q, 2015))
Florida (77, 80): DPMS: $1,000 ($1,950 (38 Weeks), $500 (3Q, 2015))

7.62x39mm (AK Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $568 Last Week Avg: $598(-) ($668 (28 Weeks)), $450 (3Q, 2015))
Arizona (30, 29): VZ 2008: $500 ($650 (3 Weeks)), $500 (2 Weeks))
Texas (67, 72): MM Industries: $600 ($800 (1Q, 2016, $350 (3Q, 2014))
Pennsylvania (44, 45): CAI: $550 ($750 (1Q, 2015), $375 (1Q, 2015))
Virginia (45, 52): CAI: $650 ($700 (33 Weeks), $350 (1Q, 2015))
Florida (116, 118): CAI: $540 ($700 (46 Weeks), $300 (4Q, 2014))

30-30 Winchester Lever Action Average Price: $386 Last Week Avg: $386(=) ($495 (15 Weeks), $296 (3Q, 2015))
Arizona (7, 7): Winchester 94: $500 ($500 (2 Weeks), $500 (3 Weeks))
Texas (15, 17): Winchester 94: $300 ($550 (1Q, 2015), $300 (1Q, 2015))
Pennsylvania (16, 14): Winchester 94: $350 ($450 (1Q, 2015), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Virginia (15, 16): Marlin 336: $400 ($670 (35 Weeks)), $250 (4Q, 2015))
Florida (19, 22): Glenfield Marlin: $380 ($500 (1Q, 2015), $250 (2Q, 2015))

Pistols

.45 caliber ACP (M1911 Pattern Semiautomatic Pistol) Average Price: $479 Last Week Avg: $495(-) ($515 (24 Weeks)), $350 (4Q, 2015))
Arizona (90, 93): Para Ordnance: $550 ($550 (2 Weeks), $400 (3 Weeks))
Texas (250, 254): Colt: $550 ($600 (4Q, 2014), $300 (7 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (145, 149): Taurus 1911: $495 ($575 ($575 2 Weeks), $300 (2Q, 2015))
Virginia (150, 139): Iver Johnson: $450 ($575 (51 Weeks)), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Florida (339, 362): American Tactical Imports: $350 ($500 (50 Weeks), $250 (1Q, 2015))

9mm (Beretta 92FS or other Semiautomatic) Average Price: $267 Last Week Avg: $278(-) ($358 (45 Weeks), $231 (3 Weeks))
Arizona (124, 122): Sccy: $300 ($300 (2 Weeks), $275 (3 Weeks))
Texas (370, 351): Smith & Wesson SW9VE: $250 ($355 (1Q, 2015), $200 (3Q, 2015))
Pennsylvania (293, 309): Smith & Wesson SD9VE: $200 ($350 (4Q 2014), $200 (3Q, 2015))
Virginia (253, 252): Ruger SR9C: $340 ($425 (4Q, 2016), $189 (42 Weeks))
Florida (555, 556): EAA Witness Tangfolio: $245 ($400 (44 Weeks), $190 (24 Weeks))

.40 caliber S&W (Glock or other semiautomatic) Average Price: $330 Last Week Avg: $340(-) ($399 (1Q, 2016), $262 (32 Weeks))
Arizona (30, 25): Springfield XD-40: $450 ($500 (2 Weeks)), $450 (CA: $500 (1 Week)))
Texas (124, 118): Glock 23: $300 ($425 (4Q, 2014), ($210 (17 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (92, 88): Smith & Wesson SW40VE: $300 ($450 (40 Weeks), $200 (20 Weeks))
Virginia (81, 82): Smith & Wesson SD40VE: $300 ($450 (2Q, 2015), $275 (1Q, 2015))
Florida (151, 146): Smith & Wesson SW40VE: $300 ($400 (1Q, 2015), $199 (4Q, 2015))

Used Gun of the Week: (Ohio)
Ruger 10/22 Chambered in .22LR
Posted by:badanov

#6  But my night scope is only rated to .308 bolt.
Posted by: Glenmore   2017-01-21 17:51  

#5  Saw an AR chambered in 45-70 this week at Shot Show.
Posted by: Iblis   2017-01-21 17:20  

#4  .30-06 is the round that won WWII.
Posted by: Nero White 3083   2017-01-21 16:10  

#3  One of the problems is the potential imposition of nationwide standards by Congress for carrying a concealed weapon.

It's not a theoretical problem. That's the practical application of all federal legislation. Remember, a law enacted can always be changed by a future Congress - often for the worse. There is no need for more federal restrictions. If your traveling to other states take a few minutes to familiarize yourself with their laws. If you don't like said laws you can choose not to go there. I think they call it Federalism?
Posted by: DepotGuy   2017-01-21 12:30  

#2  The 320 is not a better weapon.
It is a easier/cheaper to maintain gun.

It is all about logistics, a MBA decision.
Posted by: Skidmark   2017-01-21 11:28  

#1  The US Army has selected the Sig Sauer P320 as its main service sidearm.

The question is whether it is more powerful than the current 9mm, otherwise why bother? (other than the usual graft aspect)
Posted by: Procopius2k   2017-01-21 10:57  

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