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This Week in Guns, July 8th, 2017
2017-07-08


By Chris Covert
Rantburg.com

Housekeeping Note: I've added a notation on the line for each gun in each state denoting the highest number of that category available for private sale. I suspect this number will go down some in the coming months, but you never know what will happen in a complex market environment such as used firearms for private sale.

From Rantburger Steve S comes a link to a .460 caliber BB gun like that used by Lewis and Clarke.

Erudite former special operations blogger Hognose died a few weeks ago of a massive heart attack, but thankfully the Weapons Man blog lives on. Mentioned recently is the author's contention that the usual statistic of 300 million firearms owned by US citizens is actually double, possibly as high as 660 million firearms. You can read their explication here.

I noted in comments a couple of weeks ago that an Israeli tactical training firm offers a week long tactical training session in Pennsylvania. Their facility is geared more to the East Coast cloistered crowd, who have zero idea of firearms and tactical training. I'd go but for the expense and the amount of time off needed to attend. Yes, they teach old folks, too, something a lot of trainers refuse to do.

One fella offers a variety of training options in Virginia. You can see his pitch here.

Of course, you can forget the whole firearms and Right to Bear Arms thing and have the state of California pay you for not shooting anyone.

Loads.

Rantburg's summary for arms and ammunition:

Pistol ammunition prices were mixed. Rifle ammunition prices were mixed.

Prices for used pistols were mixed. Prices for used rifles were higher across the board.

New Lows:

None

Pistol Ammunition

.45 Caliber, 230 Grain, From Last Week: -.03 Each
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Ammo 2 U, CCI, FMJ, Brass Casing, .20 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: J&G Sales, Own Brand, FMJ, Steel Casing, .20 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2Q, 2017))

.40 Caliber Smith & Wesson, 180 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Ammo Valley, Own Brand, RNFP, Brass Casing, Reloads, .18 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Ammo Valley, Own Brand, FMJ, Brass Casing, Reloads, .18 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks))

9mm Parabellum, 115 Grain, From Last Week: -.01 Each
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Patriot Outfitters Guns, Own Brand, FMJ, Brass Casing, Reloads .14 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: SG Ammo, Barnaul, FMJ, Steel Casing, .14 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2Q, 2017))

.357 Magnum, 158 Grain, From Last Week: -.01 Each After Unchanged (1Q, 2017)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .23 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .22 per round (From Last Week: -.02 Each After Unchanged (5 Weeks))

.38 Special, 158 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (9 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Highland Lakes Ammo, Own Brand, FP, Brass Casing, Reloads .24 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 rounds: Western Arms & Ammo, Own Brand, TMJ, Brass Casing, Reloads .24 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2Q, 2017))

Rifle Ammunition

.223 Caliber/5.56mm 55 Grain, From Last Week: -.01 Each
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Ammomen, Wolf WPA, FMJ, Steel Casing, .19 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Wolf WPA, FMJ, Steel Casing, .19 per round (From Last Week: -.01 Each After Unchanged (2Q, 2017))

.308 NATO 150 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .32 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .32 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks))

7.62x39mm AK 123 Grain, From Last Week: -.01 Each After Unchanged (1Q, 2017)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Ammo King, Wolf WPA, Steel Casing, FMJ, .20 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Wolf WPA, Steel Casing, FMJ, .19 per round (From Last Week: -.01 Each After Unchanged (1Q, 2017))

.30-06 Springfield 145 Grain. From Last Week: Unchanged (2Q, 2017)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Wolf WPA, Steel Casing, FMJ, .54 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: United Nations Ammo, Wolf WPA, Steel Casing, FMJ, .54 per round (From Last week: Unchanged (1Q, 2017))

.300 Winchester Magnum 150 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Selway Armory, Prvi Partizan, Brass Casing, SP, .82 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Ammo Liquidator, Winchester, Brass Casing, SP, .87 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks))

.338 Lapua Magnum 250 Grain, From Last Week: -.18 Each After Unchanged (4 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Ammo Liquidator, Federal Eagle, Brass Casing, JSP, 2.17 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 200 rounds: Wholesale Hunter, Federal American Eagle, Brass Casing, HP, 2.36 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks))

.22 LR 40 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (8 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Ammo King, Aguila, RNL, .04 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Ammo King, Aguila, RNL, .04 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (8 Weeks))

Guns for Private Sale
Rifles


.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $454 Last Week Avg: $435(+) ($616 (2Q, 2015), $435 (4 Weeks))
Arizona (191, 3Q, 2017)(179, 191): Ruger: $540 ($600 (24 Weeks), $450 (18 Weeks))
Texas (469, 3Q, 2017)(420, 469): Delton: $380 ($700 (1Q, 2015), $350 (2Q, 2015))
Pennsylvania (234, 3Q, 2017)(217, 234): Delton: $500 ($700 (2Q, 2015), $300 (3Q, 2015))
Virginia (282, 3Q, 2017)(245, 282): Smith & Wesson: $450 ($750 (1Q, 2015), $400 (4 Weeks))
Florida (679, 3Q, 2017)(603, 679): DPMS Panther: $400 ($650 (2Q, 2015), $380 (1Q, 2015))

.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $790 Last Week Avg: $768(+) ($1,359 (2Q, 2015), $766 (6 Weeks))
Arizona (30, 3Q, 2017)(30, 30): DPMS: $900 ($2,300 (4 Weeks)), $650 (27 Weeks))
Texas (178, 3Q, 2017)(156, 176): DPMS: $850 ($1,500 (4Q, 2014), $700 (48 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (54, 3Q, 2017)(46, 54): DPMS: $775 ($1,600 (35 Weeks), $700 (3Q, 2015))
Virginia (85, 3Q, 2017)(81, 85): Mixed Build: $775 ($2,750 (1Q, 2016), $750 (20 Weeks))
Florida (124, 3Q, 2017)(116, 122): Mixed Build: $650 ($1,950 (2Q, 1016), $500 (3Q, 2015))

7.62x39mm (AK Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $564 Last Week Avg: $496(+) ($668 (43 Weeks), $450 (3Q, 2015))
Arizona (28, 3Q, 2017)(23, 28): Romak: $630 ($900 (5 Weeks), $400 (10 Weeks))
Texas (141, 3Q, 2017)(127, 141): CAI: $650 ($800 (1Q, 2016), $350 (3Q, 2014))
Pennsylvania (75, 3Q, 2017)(68, 75): CAI: $640 ($750 (1Q, 2015), $375 (1Q, 2015))
Virginia (72, 3Q, 2017)(62, 71): IO: $450 ($700 (2Q, 2016), $350 (1Q, 2015))
Florida (146, 3Q, 2017)(146, 145): IO: $450 ($700 (1Q, 2016), $300 (4Q, 2014))

30-30 Winchester Lever Action Average Price: $355 Last Week Avg: $333(+) ($495 (39 Weeks), $296 (3Q, 2015))
Arizona (14, 3Q, 2017)(10, 14): Mossberg 464: $400 ($500 (24 Weeks), $200 (9 Weeks))
Texas (32, 3Q, 2017)(25, 32): Mossberg 464: $300 ($550 (1Q, 2015), $295 (9 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (23, 3Q, 2017)(21, 23): Marlin: $350 ($450 (1Q, 2015), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Virginia (17, 3Q, 2017)(13, 17): Winchester Model 94: $350 ($670 (2Q, 2016), $250 (4Q, 2015))
Florida (34, 3Q, 2017)(23, 32): Winchester Model 94: $375 ($500 (1Q, 2015), $250 (2Q, 2015))

Pistols

.45 caliber ACP (M1911 Pattern Semiautomatic Pistol) Average Price: $407 Last Week Avg: $393(+) ($525 (45 Weeks), $350 (4Q, 2015))
Arizona (124, 3Q, 2017)(111, 124): Viking Tactical: $450 ($700 (10 Weeks), $380 (3 Weeks))
Texas (358, 3Q, 2017)(335, 358): Girsan: $410 ($600 (4Q, 2014), $300 (31 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (178, 3Q, 2017)(159, 178): Llama: $300 ($585 (9 Weeks), $300 (2Q, 2015))
Virginia (197, 3Q, 2017)(191, 197): Rock Island Armory: $425 ($600 (23 Weeks), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Florida (440, 3Q, 2017)(401, 440): American Tactical Imports: $450 ($500 (1Q, 2016), $250 (1Q, 2015))

9mm (Beretta 92FS or other Semiautomatic) Average Price: $220 Last Week Avg: $220(=) ($358 (1Q, 2016), $207 (9 Weeks))
Arizona (238, 3Q, 2017)(227, 238): Kel Tec PF-9: $275 ($400 (15 Weeks), $240 (11 Weeks))
Texas (565, 3Q, 2017)(526, 565): Taurus 709: $200 ($355 (1Q, 2015), $199 (11 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (368, 3Q, 2017)(343, 368): Canik TP-9: $225 ($350 (4Q 2014), $150 (20 Weeks))
Virginia (334, 3Q, 2017)(326, 334): Diamondback DB9 EX: $200 ($425 (4Q, 2016), $189 (2Q, 2016))
Florida (827, 3Q, 2017)(739, 827): Ruger P89: $200 ($400 (1Q, 2016), $160 (9 Weeks))

.40 caliber S&W (Glock or other semiautomatic) Average Price: $282 Last Week Avg: $294(-) ($399 (1Q, 2016), $262 (2Q, 2016))
Arizona (75, 3Q, 2017)(59, 75): Taurus PT140 G2: $195 ($500 (25 Weeks), $195 (2 Weeks))
Texas (150, 3Q, 2017)(132, 150): Smith & Wesson M&P 40C: $200 ($425 (4Q, 2014), $200 (29 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (108, 3Q, 2017)(95, 108): Sig Sauer 2340: $360 ($450 (2Q, 2016), $200 (45 Weeks))
Virginia (89, 3Q, 2017)(84, 89): Walther PPQ: $375 ($450 (2Q, 2015), $275 (1Q, 2015))
Florida (173, 3Q, 2017)(171, 173): Smith & Wesson SD40VE: $280 ($400 (1Q, 2015), $199 (4Q, 2015))

Used Gun of the Week: (Georgia)
NavyArms 1860 Henry (Uberti Copy) chambered in 44-40 Winchester
Posted by:badanov

#4  Cherev Gidon also teaches courses in L.A. and Phoenix. The latter is also desert warfare training.
Posted by: Pappy   2017-07-08 11:43  

#3  Look, I love Ambrose, and got the audio of Undaunted Courage.

16 hour round trip. Didn't get past St. Louis. Narrator, text, whatever, had to take breaks to keep from dozing.

It isn't bad; it is very detailed. Driving across the high plains after two days of celebration is not the ideal time to contemplate choices and changes in provisions. Like I said: 16 hours. St. Louis.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2017-07-08 11:41  

#2  Wow! A 0.460 BB gun. One should not have a need for a suppressor with this gun. I've got a little Beeman Tempest single shot air gun but it's about as much fun as one can have with his/her clothes on. I've used in inside the house in a little shooting gallery set-up and in the backyard. It helps keep the shooting skills sharp.
Posted by: JohnQC   2017-07-08 10:48  

#1  Introducing a world champion 16 year old shooter in 2016, Katie Francis.

Posted by: Winky Uninese3152   2017-07-08 01:12  

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