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-Lurid Crime Tales-
A Theory on Las Vegas
2017-10-05
From Mr. Ringo's Facebook page. His wife generously allowed him to share her story, the rest of which can be read at the link, dear Reader.
I may be the only person in the 'pundit' world who can put what we know about the Las Vegas shooter in perspective because I've dealt with something similar before. My personal take, at this point, is 'homicidal psychotic break, rationale currently unknown, possible pharmacological.'

To debunk a few of the recent urban legends and prolapse some of the stupider arguments:

ISIS: Nothing in his electronic trail indicates any contact with ISIS despite their claims and some rumors. Nothing.

'There were multiple shooters/he was a patsy!': All the guns in the room were registered to Paddock. He was covered in GSR and even had burns on his hands from hot barrel/rounds.

'He was antifa killing Republicans!': Nothing in his electronic trail indicates the slightest political affiliation or interest. Nothing.

There weren't even angry emails. He never posted comments. Rarely read political news. Nada.

Gambling debts! He was broke!

Paddock was a habitual hobby gambler who was the sort of person casinos hate. He would set a budget on his gambling and stick to it religiously. He also rarely lost big or won big and never let either one change his habits.

He was a perfectly normal, successful, retired accountant well-invested in real estate with very little or no recent change in demeanor or actions.

Perfectly normal guy and only a ‘loner’ to the extent he wasn’t terribly socially active. ‘Loner’ apparently means he didn’t frequent wild parties. If he had the narrative would be ‘wild party animal.’

'Homicidal psychotic break means he couldn't have done the planning!'

Au contraire. Deep sigh. Been here, had someone in my life nearly do if not that than similar. With their permission I will now recount a story and show why everything about this makes a terrible sort of sense to me. The story is about my lovely and extremely loving wife, Miriam, and her descent to homicidal psychotic break due to a nasty drug interaction.
Posted by:trailing wife

#26  Thank you so very much for explaining, Threatch Jeamp8135. I'll add that to my moderating notes to use going forward.
Posted by: trailing wife   2017-10-05 21:13  

#25  TW.
400 is the exact number of pixels. If a frame is 300 pixels wide, the frame expands.

Style width % will size the image to fit exactly 80% of the original frame size, whether it is a comment box or the screen in a football arena without screeimg up the original size.
Posted by: Threatch Jeamp8135   2017-10-05 20:56  

#24  I add style="width:80%" to my image tags

How is that different than width=400, Bright Pebbles?
Posted by: trailing wife   2017-10-05 20:40  

#23  @ trailing wife

I add style="width:80%" to my image tags
Posted by: Bright Pebbles   2017-10-05 18:05  

#22  Trauma networks are discussing victim clusters being 'herded' between exits. High velocity rounds penetrating one and ending in a second. Another reason for two windows.
Posted by: Skidmark   2017-10-05 17:21  

#21  A drug induced psychotic break similar to the one described in the article and a political or religious-political motive for the shooting are not explanations that are mutually exclusive.
Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660   2017-10-05 16:50  

#20  FYI. MSM continues to spin this as the biggest massacre in recent history in the US. The truth id the biggest massacre in recent history was on 9/11/2001. And no guns were used.
Posted by: Threatch Jeamp8135   2017-10-05 16:48  

#19  the shrinks prescribe more marijuana and beer some of these people would be too stoned, too mellow, to fire a weapon.
I have a relative living in CO who thinks the recent legalization of marijuana there has resulted in a great many workers who are either too stoned or too mellow to do their jobs (like drawing blood in a medical lab, or lawn work) properly.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2017-10-05 16:42  

#18  Progressives (communists) would like nothing better than a UK or Auzzie style, across the board weapons ban.
Posted by: Besoeker   2017-10-05 16:18  

#17  They're not gonna ban hunting rifles.

Sorry, Abu, they want to ban ALL guns and will use any excuse. If they get their hands on AR-15s and the like you can bet your life that a Remington Model 700 or a Marlin lever gun will be next on their agenda.
Posted by: AlanC   2017-10-05 16:14  

#16  Re #16: So in other words, a typical democrat?
Posted by: Seeking cure for ignorance   2017-10-05 14:32  

#15  I added width=400 to rjschwarz's image, because it was seriously bending the Burg.
Posted by: trailing wife   2017-10-05 13:40  

#14  Americans have always had guns. How long have we had some of these medications?
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2017-10-05 12:34  

#13  Well, thanks rjschwarz. You beat me to it. Maybe if the shrinks prescribe more marijuana and beer some of these people would be too stoned, too mellow, to fire a weapon. That might keep them from becoming successful accountants but at least they wouldn't become mass murderers.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2017-10-05 12:20  

#12  We do seem to be in the midst of an epidemic of these types of events. Didn't seem to me that twenty or thirty years ago we had this kind of thing nearly as often. I remember the Texas bell tower incident and how shocking it was back in the 1966. Now it's like "What? Again?" I don't believe it's the guns. The guy in the bell tower didn't have a bump stock or even an AR-15. Wikipedia says he used a hunting rifle, probably a bolt action, and he did a lot of damage with it. Oswald used a bolt action. They're not gonna ban hunting rifles.

Then there was an incident in a McDonalds at San Ysidro, just down the road from me in 1984 and it was shocking too. But the bell tower incident and the McDonalds incident were decades apart. Now it seems like these things are only months apart. Maybe it's all the publicity, the nonstop yammering about it on TV. There are certainly more talks shows, a lot more, and they all feel compelled to weigh in ad nauseam on these incidents. Add Islamic terrorism and it's tough to feel safe anywhere in public. But the pace is quickening. Drugs certainly sound like a possible cause. Might be interesting for a real researcher to look at all the drugs that all of these perps took and find out if there's a connection.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2017-10-05 12:17  

#11  Not sure if this is true but it showed up on Facebook today.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2017-10-05 12:00  

#10  Makes me wonder how many murder/suicide and other bizarre events are pharm triggered.
Posted by: Skidmark   2017-10-05 11:29  

#9  I also agree that it's way to early to tell. I suspect he's left a note or spoke on video about motivations. Still, ignoring Vegas, the connected dots in this article were eye opening.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2017-10-05 10:30  

#8  Newc is dead on - very little evidence is in. We know nothing of the real investigation...nothing on his phones or real financial transactions...nothing on his search histories...nothing of any potential illegal drug abuse...nothing on Ms. Danley's affiliations...

Even crazy people have motives...this one did and they know what it is. The only questions at this point is when will they tell us if they won't tell...why not?
Posted by: Tennessee   2017-10-05 08:39  

#7  All the planning but remember if its tied to the Left or Muslims, its a mental illness issue, if its tagged to anyone else, its just pure evil and people need to surrender their rights (for the children).
Posted by: Procopius2k   2017-10-05 07:44  

#6  Shooting at the fuel tanks as well as the concert, does fit the, Muslim Maximum Murder and Mayhem MO.

Just saying.
Posted by: phil_b   2017-10-05 07:15  

#5  I like Ringo's SF, but this
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2017-10-05 04:51  

#4  "This was no sudden breakdown."
Absolutely not. Very planned.

Movement of him and his equipment interests me. Another venue prior is.. I shut up now.
Posted by: newc   2017-10-05 02:29  

#3  Wow!
I need to check my pharms and oxidizers.
(Hope we have enough!)
Posted by: Skidmark   2017-10-05 02:14  

#2  I read this earlier. The rather large flaw in this theory is motivation. Why shoot up a country music festival? When he was apparently a fan and attended concerts himself.

Paddock bought most, if not all the guns used (33 rifles) in October 2016. This was no sudden breakdown.
Posted by: phil_b   2017-10-05 02:04  

#1  You know?
I think we covered the other shooters that were on prescription drugs right here on this Rant.

I have seen this as an issue - the over-aggressiveness of those on and off meds.

This case is far from over and nothing I say really counts, and little evidence is in.
Posted by: newc   2017-10-05 01:14  

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