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| Gunman was shooting at hotel guard + worker in hallway several minutes before attack on festival |
| 2017-10-12 |
| [CBSNews] A maintenance worker ... told hotel dispatchers to call police and report a gunman had opened fire with a rifle inside the Mandalay Bay Resort and Casino hotel before the shooter began firing from his high-rise suite into a crowd at a nearby musical performance. ... Worker Stephen Schuck says he was checking out a report of a jammed fire door on the 32nd floor of Mandalay Bay when he heard gunshots and a hotel security guard, who had been shot in the leg, peeked out from an alcove and told him to take cover. "As soon as I started to go to a door to my left the rounds started coming down the hallway," Schuck said. "I could feel them pass right behind my head. "It was kind of relentless so I called over the radio what was going on," he said. "As soon as the shooting stopped we made our way down the hallway and took cover again and then the shooting started again." Las Vegas massacre gunman had a NORMAL brain: Autopsy finds 'no abnormalites' that could have driven him to kill 58 innocent people [DailyMail] The Las Vegas sheriff leading the investigation into America's worst mass shooting has said 'we may never know' what motivated Stephen Paddock to kill 58 people. Joe Lombardo said and exam of Paddock's brain has revealed 'no abnormalities' while girlfriend Marilou Danley had 'no concerns' over his mental health. Detectives have contacted every branch of Paddock's family tree, including both his ex-wives, but have no uncovered anything that would explain his murderous actions. 'All those things that you would expect to find, we have not found,' Lombardo said in an interview with the Las Vegas Review-Journal. Lombardo was able to shed more light on Paddock's time in Las Vegas before he began his massacre on Sunday, October 1. Paddock had arrived in the city three days earlier than originally thought, but stayed in a different room that was provided free of charge by the hotel. When he moved to the corner suite from which he carried out the massacre, the hotel began charging him for the stay. Police initially only counted charged days, hence the confusion, Lombardo said. Lombardo said his team had reviewed hours of CCTV footage, and were not aware of any evidence to suggest he went into the desert to practice shooting in the days before the massacre, or that he hired a prostitute, as has been reported. A bellboy did help Paddock move several bags up to his room, Lombardo revealed, adding that the killer traveled back and forth to his hometown of Mesquite several times before the massacre. |
| Posted by:si vis pacem, para bellum |
| #11 By the time they had arrived, the firing had stopped. They did SOP to wait with no immediate threat. There are other considerations to consider - evac of adjacent rooms, lockdown of the hotel, and collecting information. Had firing re-started, they would have rushed in. things sound kind of out of whack. I do have a problem with no being able to get a close to correct timeline 10 days after the fact, but that is one hell of a crime scene to process. When the FBI and BATF give brief, it will give a better picture. Take your time but hurry up. |
| Posted by: newc 2017-10-12 17:27 |
| #10 The blocked stairwell door is hugely significant to me, has anyone been able to determine the precise way it was blocked? Either to prevent the anticipated LE response from avoiding the long hallway killzone, or the prevent the pursuit of those that were with him initially. The method and details would answer that question. That the were emphatic that he had an escape plan makes we wonder how he planned to bail. Surely if there were hallway and stairwell cameras we would have seen footage by now, unless the FBI wants to suppress what was captured on tape.... |
| Posted by: NoMoreBS 2017-10-12 15:39 |
| #9 CYA is so inculcated in any bureaucracy these days that it is a given. See the SPoD on the SWAT team response. I think the same thing is a big factor in the highly reported police shooting cases. CYA says it's better to shoot first and ask questions later. |
| Posted by: AlanC 2017-10-12 14:10 |
| #8 Seems like a lot of CYA coming from everyone. I think the hotel blew it, the police blew it and the FBI blew it and everyone knows it and is trying to cover up their incompetence. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2017-10-12 12:06 |
| #7 I am thinking disinformation. But why? |
| Posted by: Thomose Spawn of the Antelope4762 2017-10-12 11:54 |
| #6 Today we hear that security guard Jesus Campos is not a licensed security guard in Nevada. Moreover, the timeline initially reported is in error. Campos was shot 6 minutes before Paddock opened up on the crowd below. "Security Guard" 22,000 people at the concert and more in the immediate surrounding area and a lot of conflicting reports about what happened. It would be interesting to see the forensic evidence that has been collected so far. |
| Posted by: JohnQC 2017-10-12 11:33 |
| #5 The same issue with SWAT teams as with Columbine. The SWAT team screwed around with plans and tactics designed to protect the SWAT team instead of saving citizens' lives. The police don't want to admit the response time was complete BS Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom You are dead on. I bought into the 10 minute response narrative early on in the reporting and I was stunned to learn that it was 70 minutes or longer before they made entry. To be fair maybe he killed himself after 10 minutes and it was all quiet when they finally got up there...who knows...but, it does feel a lot like Columbine. |
| Posted by: Tennessee 2017-10-12 10:57 |
| #4 A lot of remarks from the Sheriff, nothing from the FBI. Wonder if the Hotel video was seized? |
| Posted by: Skidmark 2017-10-12 10:38 |
| #3 The same issue with SWAT teams as with Columbine. The SWAT team screwed around with plans and tactics designed to protect the SWAT team instead of saving citizens' lives. The police don't want to admit the response time was complete BS |
| Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom 2017-10-12 10:20 |
| #2 "report of a jammed fire door" sounds like SOMEONE was escaping. Was the CCTV hacked? |
| Posted by: Bright Pebbles 2017-10-12 07:05 |
| #1 He didn't take the opportunity to escape after shooting the worker and security person. Still nothing concrete to indicate any others were involved. And if there were, surely they would show up security cameras. |
| Posted by: phil_b 2017-10-12 03:33 |