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-Land of the Free
After Las Vegas, we must ban high-capacity magazines
2017-10-18
BY U.S. Rep. Ted Deutch (D-Florida)
U.S. Congress

Every day, pundits, politicians and newsmakers try to predict what’s next in American politics. Horse races, winners and losers and “top things you need to know.”

After the horrific shooting in Las Vegas, prognosticators had an unfair advantage. We’ve learned from our country’s recent history of gun violence what happens after. What we haven’t learned is how to stop repeating the cycle.
1) It ain't a "cycle." Calling it a cycle doesn't make it so.
This week, I joined Rep. Elizabeth Esty (D-CT) and several of my colleagues from the Nevada Congressional delegation — Reps. Dina Titus, Ruben Kihuen, and Jacky Rosen — to work toward interrupting the tragic cycle of inaction.
The tragedy is in the thinking that more laws against the gun owners who did not help the shooter, or who were restricted by local, state and federal law from having the tools to counter shooters, will prevent murder.
We introduced the Keep Americans Safe Act to ban high-capacity magazines.

Like bump fire stocks, high-capacity magazines are designed to make killing more efficient, and not much else.

As a hunter I met this week put it, if you take more than one shot at a deer you’ll be getting the “white tail salute.”
The 2nd Amendment ain't about hunting. It's about holding the government at risk should they decide to become sporty, like banning magazines.
And even before the unspeakable violence tore through his city last week, Las Vegas Sheriff Joe Lombardo said, “I’m a very avid hunter, I was in the military myself, and there’s no need to have a high-capacity magazine for any practical reason.”
Sez you. I was in the military myself and I took the same oath as Lombardo, which apparently he has broken.
As we emerge from our grief after the new “worst mass-shooting in American history”— a title unwillingly claimed by the city of Orlando after the Pulse nightclub shooting just over a year ago — we are committed to finding policy proposals that the vast majority of Americans will support to help stop this unacceptable violence.
Trying eliminating gun laws. They don't help anyone, and they punish the innocent.
Combined with bump fire stocks, high-capacity magazines allowed the Las Vegas shooter to kill 58 concertgoers in a matter of minutes.
The shooter could have done the same thing in 15 minutes without the bump fire stock, and arguably without the standard capacity magazine.
But the massive scale of violence extends so much further. High-capacity magazines make killers capable of firing dozens of bullets before reloading. In the recordings captured by victims in Las Vegas, you can hear the killer fire 90 rounds in just ten seconds.
There is no "massive scale of violence" that involves standard capacity magazines. Those who have wantonly murdered with standard capacity magazines have done so because they were murdering bastards, not because of the capacity of the magazine. It is a critical distinction, one the writer chooses to ignore.
Bullets rained down on a crowd of 22,000 injuring over 500 people.

Limiting magazines to ten rounds would be a small step toward safety. It would also be popular.
The 2nd Amendment is not subject to popular opinion. Rights are God given and not subject to the whims of a coterie of tyrants who want to use the offices of government to commit theft and murder, all in the holy name of Public Safety. If you look over how tyrants came to power -- and maintain their power -- you will find that those who used the excuse of public safety were cynical liars who used a public sentiment to increase their power and the power of the government. And in so doing destroyed as many individual freedoms as they could in the process. What the writer advocates is no different.
Banning high-capacity magazines is supported by 72 percent of Americans, including law enforcement officers, military veterans and gun safety advocates.

We admit that this legislation won’t fix everything and won’t end gun violence. It won’t address the majority of the 33,000 lives lost to gun violence every year in this country, half of which are suicides.

But without 30-round magazines, mass killers would be forced to spend time reloading, precious time that could allow a victim to escape or law enforcement to intervene.

If that time could help save at least one life, it would be worth it.
If eliminating laws that hold the power of the state over gun owners would encourage individuals to arm up and help stop violence, it would be worth more. And in the process it would restore rights and civil liberties to the people.
We have already progressed through much of the usual cycle after Las Vegas. The headlines followed the same familiar form: this many killed, that many injured.

But the victims of gun violence are innocent Americans who deserve better. The families they have left behind deserve better. And every American today deserves better, too.
The victims were first and foremost disarmed in an environment in which law enforcement would not have stopped the shooting. In my estimation, it would have taken two riflemen to slow the shooter down and four to stop the shooting altogether. And the best part is, it is cost free to the government. Just get the government's boot heels off the people, and allow them to decide for themselves how to protect themselves. Kops protect themselves firstly, and their commanders second. Gun laws don't work in the US. We are the Arsenal of Democracy. Stop trying to pass laws that run counter to civil liberties.
We cannot allow ourselves to become numb, and we cannot allow ourselves to remember the victims of gun violence as mere statistics.

Will this cycle be different?

Banning high-capacity magazines is not a bold new idea. These devices were illegal until 2004 when Congress allowed the Assault Weapons Ban to lapse. That was a mistake, and it’s time to correct it by renewing restrictions on these devices which have no purpose other than highly efficient murder.
Yes, Congressman: Put the power to murder efficiently into the hands of the state alone.
It’s time for Congress to do something about gun violence.
Try resigning.
It’s time to convert all of our thoughts and prayers into action.

It’s time to overwhelm the gun lobby and my colleagues beholden to them with passionate common sense.

Let’s pass the Keep Americans Safe Act and ban high capacity magazines.
Posted by:badanov

#9  I think the voters have effectively banned Democrats.
Posted by: JohnQC   2017-10-18 23:01  

#8  He used rifles, so let's ban rifled barrels. He used long guns, so lets ban them. He used bullets lets ban them. He used ...

You see where I'm going with this?
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839   2017-10-18 17:16  

#7  This is an application of nudge theory.
Posted by: Iblis   2017-10-18 14:11  

#6  And not to forget the CDC finding that over 100,000 patients die in hospitals every year due to negligence. I'm not sure if that figure included the government's own VA.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2017-10-18 13:39  

#5  "High Capacity" cell phones probably kill tens of thousands more people each year than firearms.
Posted by: Besoeker   2017-10-18 13:25  

#4  we must ban high-capacity magazines

And trucks.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru   2017-10-18 13:23  

#3   In my estimation, it would have taken two riflemen to slow the shooter down and four to stop the shooting altogether.
IIRC, something very much like that happened during the Texas Tower shooting of 1 Aug 1966. A student gave his rifle to a local cop who showed up with only a handgun. Some civilians living nearby took their hunting rifles down from their mantels and started shooting back from ground level. A four man team got to the top of the tower, went through to dead & wounded there to kill the shooter. They themselves were in danger from being shot by return fire from below the tower. Years passed before the bullet marks at the top were repaired.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2017-10-18 03:06  

#2  The Vogue US Releases Its Thickest Magazine Issue Ever: 916 Pages. September 2012

Will Vogue appreciate being banned?
Posted by: 3dc   2017-10-18 01:35  

#1  Just ban them, like they did to guns in Chicago. Works every time!
Posted by: Raj   2017-10-18 00:23  

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