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| Don Surber: Bush speech was a cry from the swamp |
| 2017-10-23 |
| I live near a river. One road cuts through a backwater. When the water is high during a rainy season, the brush is green and the water clear. But as the weather dries and the water level declines, the water looks marshy. Old tires re-appear. Think about that as the waters drain in Washington. This week's attack on President Trump by his predecessors is a sign of desperation. Somebody called in his markers and got Bush to speak. He spent eight years in silence, unwilling to defend himself from Obama's bully pulpit bullying of all things Bush. Now Dubya enters the arena again? From the Washington Post: George W. Bush has stayed out of the political fray for nine years now, and Barack Obama has kept his head down for the past nine months. On Thursday, both former presidents used major speeches to repudiate President Trump’s brand of politics and approach to the world. Better angels. You go first. Denounce the fascist Antifa first. But Antifa serves Washington well, just as Occupy Wall Street gave cover to the equities industry that Obama served. Dubya would not defend himself. His father did not either. If you will not defend yourself, then why should I trust you to defend me? They refuse to support President Trump because they are still sucking their wounds from his stomping of Low Energy Jeb. Impolite? Go back over what Bush 41 said about Bob Dole in 1988, or what Bush 43 said about John McCain in 2000. Oh, and Jeb's son supported Trump. Sure. Jeb's son wants to be the third President George Bush, this time with a P. Family honor. Obama and Bush are just the swamp speaking. From Politico: Former President George W. Bush offered an unmistakable denunciation of Trumpism on Thursday without mentioning the president by name, urging citizens to oppose threats to American democracy. His father called Reaganomics "voodoo economics," but befriended the Clintons. President Trump is saving America from these critters. I am saddened to see Bush stand up for the corruption and incompetence of Washington. But he failed America, just as Obama did. He FAILED to line Memorial Bridge with the heads of the Intelligence services who were evidently asleep at the switch prior to 9/11. If they want to know who divided the country, they may wish to look in the mirror. President Trump is the result of their neglect of the American people. They served the elites. Trump serves the rest of us. Drain, baby, drain. |
| Posted by:badanov |
| #7 I basically agree with all the criticism but I also think that it comes back to his inability to call out the Islamic problem. Turkey knifing us in the back didn't help but I think the right approach was to kick the shit out of them taking out Saddam in the process then leaving with the "Don't make us come back!" message. Rinse and repeat as necessary. |
| Posted by: AlanC 2017-10-23 19:41 |
| #6 I wanted to believe that Bush was doing the right thing in Iraq. I wanted to believe that he knew what he was doing. But the facts are now pretty clear. He screwed up. As bad as Saddam was, who can say that Iraq is better off now? It's a mess. You wanna blame Baraq for withdrawing our troops? Bush should have known that was a possibility. He should have known better than to leave his successors with that kind of a burden. Democracy will not work there or anywhere else in the Arab world. The best we can do is leave them to their own devices and keep them out of our country. |
| Posted by: Abu Uluque 2017-10-23 12:51 |
| #5 President Bush did not blame others about Iraq, but bowed to the criticism of John McCain and ordered the troop surge in Iraq when most others thought Iraq was already lost for good. Posted by: boomerc President Bush is responsible for the unnecessary deaths of thousands of young American soldiers in Iraq. Period. There is no one else to "blame." Those soldiers are lost forever...and their blood is on his hands alone. A heavy raid into Iraq, removal of Saddam, and subsequent withdrawal leaving a heavy Coalition corps in the South was the plan...a plan that played to our strengths...and would've left a deterrent in place...not disbanding the Iraqi army and a bloody occupation. Bush's result...first ISIS...now a Shia crescent that extends from Yemen, through Iran, through a Shia dominated Iraq and into Syria. I sense Bush not taking responsibility for his failures is what I sense...and not using the good sense to shut his mouth...he is prideful for thinking we want to hear any more of his stupidness. He just needs to go away. We've already suffered our tragedy at the hands of 'W' |
| Posted by: Tennessee 2017-10-23 10:31 |
| #4 Re: #3, Is Soros trying a new tactic? This is mostly all BS. W. wimped on the true nature of the battle. He refused to name the enemy and fight for it. He started poorly with his "compromise" with Teddy about education. He didn't earn hate but he did earn disgust and disdain. |
| Posted by: AlanC 2017-10-23 09:48 |
| #3 George W Bush is my favorite president. George W Bush was unfairly criticized by Democrats and the liberals over the war in Iraq in order to destroy his presidency and to gain power at the cost of undermining the Iraq war especially after Obama took office and withdrew forces prematurely allowing things to rapidly fall apart into opposing factions in Iraq. Neither President Trump nor Steve Bannon are wise enough to judge President Bush on the Iraq war and all the undermining in Iraq that has occurred since the two Obama terms. So they should not blame President Bush for the results of the Iraq war. President Obama made the mistake of blaming president Bush 43 for everything and thus was blinded into a foolish fix "premature withdraw of troops from Iraq", the failure of which created ISIS and caused the Syrian crisis allowing Putin and Russia to go into the power vacuum created in the middle east, and allowing Iran to go into Iraq and into Syria and undermine other places. Then Obama added fuel to the fire of the Arab uprising by going into Libya and allowing the terrorists to take over there and allowing Egypt to be taken over by the Muslim Brotherhood. Then Obama allowed Yemen to fall to terrorists and let the Taliban take over in Afghanistan. Then Obama used the nuclear deal with Iran as an excuse to remove the trade sanctions from the Islamic terrorist nation and legitimize Iran as a future nuclear weapons and military regional power which will now promote a nuclear arms race. Obama did not do a thing about North Korea, but instead attacked Israel our only anti-terrorist ally in the middle east. President Bush did not blame others about Iraq, but bowed to the criticism of John McCain and ordered the troop surge in Iraq when most others thought Iraq was already lost for good. I recommend Trump, his advisors and supporters not judge Bush or blame everything on the "swamp" or make other excuses, but carefully consider their own actions, judgments and words. If you hate Bush, you are not wise and are more like the Democrat haters. I am personally offended by attacks on Bush from both sides, the liberals and the nationalists, or anti-establishment or whatever the me crowd is using at the time. The opposite of hatred is humility. This web site, our leaders and this country needs more humility and less pride. The proverb is "pride comes before the fall". Right now I am sensing a lot of pride, which means the fall is not far off. Bush was proud when he went into Iraq. But Iraq made him humble. What kind of tragedy will it take to humble you? |
| Posted by: boomerc 2017-10-23 08:55 |
| #2 Yes, yes, yes, your 'low energy' brother lost the election along with a $43m USD. Please, will you now get over it and return to acting post-presidential. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2017-10-23 00:26 |
| #1 He pathed the way to what Obumble did. Fuck you W. Eat a dick and die, along with the rest of your globalist fucksticks. |
| Posted by: DarthVader 2017-10-23 00:19 |