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-Short Attention Span Theater-
What Might Civil War Be Like?
2017-12-20
[American Thinker] The thought of Civil War has been in the minds of many people lately, on both sides of the political and cultural divide. This is not a thing to be wished for, though no one should kid themselves into believing it’s impossible either. Let us take a sober look at what such a conflict might entail.
The graphic is also something of a historical trailer.
To begin with, it would not look like the first American Civil War, which was essentially a war between two regions of the country with different economic interests. The divide created two separate countries, both initially contiguous, intact, and relatively homogeneous. The lines of demarcation now are only somewhat regional, and tend to correspond to differences between urban and rural populations, as well as differences of race and class. A second American Civil War would be much more similar to the Spanish Civil War, with the leftists dominating the cities and conservatives controlling the countryside. Conflicts of this nature, with enemies mixed geographically, are a formula for spontaneous mass bloodletting. India-Pakistan during the 1947 partition comes to mind as another modern example. Given an absence of legitimate government and the friction of proximity, ordinary people can be moved to settle grievances by killing one another without the need for governments to egg them on.
Posted by:Besoeker

#22  My $ is on ugly.
Posted by: Anomalous Sources   2017-12-20 21:41  

#21  Never hurts to keep a hard copy printout of the leading contributors to the Democratic Party in your county - and the precinct bosses. Just for easy reference when needed
Posted by: Lionel Snomons7593   2017-12-20 20:16  

#20  This is exactly why progs want gun control and a disarmed America.
Posted by: JohnQC   2017-12-20 16:24  

#19  The scenario at #18 is precisely why the progressive anti-gun crowd want the law abiding citizens disarmed. They know it will likely end badly for their constituent base.
Posted by: Besoeker   2017-12-20 16:01  

#18  I live outside of Houston, and while the center of Houston is quite your typical democrat, any attempts at raiding outside of it will end badly. Most of my neighbors are armed, not only at home but when out and about. I suspect the first time such a thing is tried, some of the raiders would die. The second time most of them will die. There won't be a third time because by then the center of Houston will be ringed by people shooting anyone attempting to leave.
Posted by: Silentbrick   2017-12-20 15:47  

#17  Thanks for your service fighting communism in both theaters bman.
Posted by: Besoeker   2017-12-20 15:40  

#16  Our little town in fly over country has its own power plant located close to a natural gas pipeline. Stripper wells are abundant, we can grow our own food and hunt deer, turkey, and of course angus. A country boy will survive. Speaking of the Detroit riots, my unit, the 3rd. brigade of the 82nd. put a stop to that shit in one day. Six months latter we were in Hue Vietnam helping the Marines put a stop to that shit.
Posted by: bman   2017-12-20 15:36  

#15  Excellent choice SPOD. Here is useful Cabalas 'previously owned' link (I've taken the liberty of posting 30.06). I stop here on near a daily basis. You really do have to be quick however. The choice items often fly off the shelf:

Cabela's Gun Library - Enjoy :-)
Posted by: Besoeker   2017-12-20 15:32  

#14  I understand that most police don't live in the cities they patrol, perhaps that's a NYPD thing I got from movies. If this is true the blue metropolises will just tear themselves apart.
Posted by: rjschwarz   2017-12-20 14:17  

#13  First, the electric grid & then interstate food & essential supplies transport stops. Like the big 2017 hurricanes, but on a nationwide basis. What is going on 10 miles from where you now live, will be largely unknown to you. May the odds be with you. Take if from there.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2017-12-20 12:15  

#12  SteveS, The graphic is apparently that of the DC riot of 1968 according to google image search.
Posted by: Seeking cure for ignorance   2017-12-20 12:00  

#11  point of order - the first American Civil War occurred during the War of Independence. Little things like Kings Mountain were home town affairs.

The next one will probably be akin to the Iraqi Insurgency. As mentioned largely urban vs non-urban oriented with a significant disruption of all the financial, commercial, and institutional aspects of the society. Pay back on both sides will be significant. To paraphrase the movie Highlander, in the end there can be only one. The old rhyme applies, all the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't put Humpty together again.
Posted by: P2kontheroad   2017-12-20 11:21  

#10   I asked Santa for a Model 70 in 30-06 caliber with a 4 to 20 power scope with post and cross hairs.

The grown-up version of a Red Ryder BB gun. You could put an eye out with that - at a hundred meters, I reckon.

I can't be sure, but the graphic looks like Detroit during the '67 riots.

Posted by: SteveS   2017-12-20 11:18  

#9  My snow flakes know where the survival supplies are cached. They were raised right and some will shed the skin I presume they wear to keep their jobs, families and in-laws.
Posted by: CC   2017-12-20 10:31  

#8  Most families are composed of a combination of snowflakes and conservatives. The snowflakes were created in college or to maintain marital bliss. The conservatives, in my family, are the ones who worked 12 or more hours a day, 6 or more days a week. Ask yourselves, who will you shot?
Posted by: CC   2017-12-20 10:27  

#7  I hope Santa is good to you SPOD.
Posted by: JohnQC   2017-12-20 10:12  

#6  I asked Santa for a Model 70 in 30-06 caliber with a 4 to 20 power scope with post and cross hairs.

I also asked for two 1911A1's and about 2000 rounds of ammo...and a Kabar knife. Mrs. Puppet likes to camp and trusts my Ranger training albeit ancient.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom   2017-12-20 10:05  

#5  An interesting read but no one really knows what will happen after the Ft. Sumter moment. If one looks at the responses to disasters such as hurricanes and floods, people on the right tend to do much better. Survival skills of those on the right tend to be better than for those on the left. The preponderance of the estimated 300mil firearms, 1 trillion rounds of ammo and the reloading capability in the U.S. is most likely owned by those on the right. LEOs and military tend to lean conservative.

One thing is probably close to certain is that a civil war would be a formula for spontaneous mass bloodletting. After years of putting up with whiny liberals, those on the left always trying to shape the narrative, the MSM, trying to destroy a culture, Hollywood. telling us they are better and smarter than the rest of us deplorables and unredeemables and you have a lot of people on the right thinking about settling-up scores--it would be a hot mess.
Posted by: JohnQC   2017-12-20 10:00  

#4  The offending cities (or portions thereof) get nuked. Game Over. Thanks for playing.
Posted by: Bertie Johnson4996   2017-12-20 09:45  

#3  "Without a steady supply of the works of Meryl Streep and Matt Damon, millions of conservatives would instantly drop dead from boredom – that is, according to Meryl Streep."



Heh.

Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspiracy   2017-12-20 08:46  

#2  So basically it would revolve around armed incursions out of population centers to gather food and resources and and into the cities for the same.
The problem with this is (1) the basis for victory in a conflict is to identify your opponenent's goal and to deny it to them (I don't see a practical strategy for this here) and (2) how to keep outside actors (Russia, China, freakin' anyone) from entering the game.
Posted by: ed in texas   2017-12-20 08:25  

#1  Given an absence of legitimate government

A not so veiled reference to Baltimore, Las Angeles, Chicago, D.C. Atlanta, and Houston.
Posted by: Besoeker   2017-12-20 07:28  

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