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| Is America headed toward a civil war? Sanders, Nielsen incidents show it has already begun |
| 2018-06-26 |
| [USA Today] The other day, author Tom Ricks asked whether we’re heading toward a civil war. "I don’t believe we’re to Kansas of the 1850s yet. But we seem to be lurching ... in that direction," he wrote. Ricks was commenting on "What Democratic rage would look like," a Bloomberg opinion column that quotes political scientist Thomas Schaller as saying, "I think we're at the beginning of a soft civil war. ... I don't know if the country gets out of it whole." That sounds pretty serious. The column by Francis Wilkinson presents a catalog of things Democrats are mad about ‐ from the existence of the electoral college to Trump’s "propaganda apparatus" ‐ and predicts that if Democrats lose the midterm elections, there will be hell to pay. (And Republicans, you know, could make a similar list of their own complaints.) "I don't know exactly what that would look like," Wilkinson writes. "But liberals have a great deal of cultural, academic and economic heft, stretching from Hollywood to Harvard. Just this week, someHollywood powerhouses flirted with leveraging their clout against the Trumpist Fox News. There are endless variations on such a power play. If Democrats opt to use their power more aggressively ‐ breaking rules ‐ Schaller's soft civil war hardly seems unlikely." |
| Posted by:Besoeker |
| #17 No cause for alarm. It appears Herb's unfortunate comment has been archived for further study. I'm afraid we'll just have to finish the evening without him. Normal programming has now resumed. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2018-06-26 21:08 |
| #16 I thought the left just cries on youtube videos. |
| Posted by: bbrewer126 2018-06-26 21:06 |
| #15 LOL, I pity you Herb. I'm not going to be doing much beyond protecting my family if CWII starts. As for how the left fights, how good does movies and and writing books do when your city has no power, no water and no truck driver willing to attempt to break through a siege to bring the stuff to you? And how buff as infantry do you have to be to shoot up power sub stations or pick off truck drivers trying to bring in food to cities? The second civil war isn't going to be much infantry fighting each other under the roar of artillery, it's going to be siege warfare. Doesn't take to pick off fat assed pols and reporters either. There's plenty of young folks who are willing to do the heavy lifting. Grow a brain cell herb, or did you melt them all already? |
| Posted by: Silentbrick 2018-06-26 21:01 |
| #14 Out of the city, the prevailing rural attitude is one of militant pacifism. "Get out of my way. I've got too much to do to fuck with you now!" Out in the rural areas, we have places to bury them. |
| Posted by: Betty Hatfield5124 2018-06-26 20:07 |
| #13 Sorry, I didn't explain it very well, Marksmen remain in truck bed, with firing ports through the sandbags, driver and security get out and watch. Marksmen finish their mag, the driver/security pair close the tailgate and get back in and drive off. Of the four people, only two get out, driver and security. Only 2 people are generally visible at any time as well. |
| Posted by: Silentbrick 2018-06-26 17:27 |
| #12 Silentbrick, serious question, why lower the gate and have the shooters get out? Why couldn't they steady their weapons on the gate? Or lower it from inside and fire from the prone position. |
| Posted by: ruprecht 2018-06-26 16:43 |
| #11 So far the right wing response was, amazingly, restrained. Out of the city, the prevailing rural attitude is one of militant pacifism. "Get out of my way. I've got too much to do to fuck with you now!" |
| Posted by: Skidmark 2018-06-26 15:56 |
| #10 Someone wrote out an example of how during massive civil unrest, unrestrained riots could be essentially shut down by a few teams in trucks. They have driver and security, armed with carbines. In the bed there are two marksmen, armed with DMR style AR's. The bed has sandbags set up for protection. The rioters tend to clump at intersections so they can attack vehicles. Truck pulls up a few hundred yards away, driver and security hop out and drop the bed gate, the two marksmen then fire one magazine worth at the rioters as slow aimed fire. Then they yank the gate up and depart. It's brutal but would be very effective. Few gangers can hit anything 30 feet away with rifles or pistols, much less 300-400 yards away. |
| Posted by: Silentbrick 2018-06-26 09:28 |
| #9 Sometimes I wonder if the left thinks they'll have a black army full of gangbangers on their side and have been protecting and cultivating them for that event. It think they'll be surprised out how unwilling the black community would be to fight FOR the liberal cause (as opposed to fighting for territory or a black cause) and how, even if well armed, untrained they are compared to the average conservative 2A fan. |
| Posted by: ruprecht 2018-06-26 09:00 |
| #8 The three men were escorted by their captors out into the darkness, where Owen Brown and one of his brothers killed them with broadswords In 1856? |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2018-06-26 08:04 |
| #7 ..nah, more like Brown's Kansas adventures. |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2018-06-26 08:00 |
| #6 The softball practice attack was the equivalent of John Brown's raid so we are getting close. |
| Posted by: Flilet Omeremble3846 2018-06-26 07:51 |
| #5 Is America headed toward a civil war? I don't think so. So far the right wing response was, amazingly, restrained. Once the restraint ends, then - how shall I put it: American left are bullies not revolutionary fighters. |
| Posted by: g(r)omgoru 2018-06-26 07:46 |
| #4 ...I'm going to suggest we may yet have a ways to go before Fort Sumter, but it is on the distant horizon, a faint pillar of smoke that will become a fire in the night. Every single incident that goes unpunished (and that is the word that needs to be used) builds upon the others, and encourages the next set of morons to go past that. One thing we aren't at all far from is a serious injury or death. And we're going to be told it's our fault. Mike |
| Posted by: Mike Kozlowski 2018-06-26 07:17 |
| #3 saw a link - neo-neocon? Comparing today's festivities with the early stages of the Red Guard. reminds me I must visit the LuckyGunner site again soon. |
| Posted by: Vortigern Wholush3392 2018-06-26 07:10 |
| #2 ...not just guns. Who raises the food? Who creates the energy that modern life is dependent upon? Through what 'color' territory do the rail lines, pipelines and highway traverse to get the the urban enclaves? Metro areas like South Florida have weathered weeks without fundamentals due to hurricanes, but only on the expectation that someone was coming to the rescue. What happens when everyone else is dealing with the man made disaster and has nothing to spare? |
| Posted by: Procopius2k 2018-06-26 07:02 |
| #1 I wonder which side has all the guns and ammo? |
| Posted by: Raj 2018-06-26 02:02 |