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Afghan asylum seeker is jailed for eight years for stabbing girl, 15, to death in Germany
2018-09-04
  • [Daily Mail, Where America Gets Its News] Abdul Mobin D
    ...who, when finally named by the authorities, was in our archives as a simple Abdul D....
    was jailed for eight years for killing his 15-year-old ex-girlfriend

  • Mia V was stabbed to death outside a shop in Kandel after she broke up with him

  • Abdul claimed to also be 15 but experts said he could be 17 or even as old as 20

  • His request for asylum was rejected last year but was not immediately deported

  • Verdict comes amid far-right protest in the eastern city of Chemnitz after a German national was stabbed by two migrants

  • German police have revealed migrant murder suspects rose by a third last year
Posted by:Fred

#12  Elmerert Hupens2660

It's actually 10 years if the defendant is under 18.
If he is over 18 but under 21, he can be tried as a juvenile. In that case the maximum penalty for murder (with particular severity of guilt) is 15 years.
If he's tried as an adult, the maximum penalty is life. If you get life without particular severity of guilt, parole is possible (but not guaranteed) after 15 years.
Life with particular severity of guilt means that parole hearings will start later. Very few people serve more than 25 years.
Posted by: European Conservative   2018-09-04 19:57  

#11  That might be the case for the core gang member subculture, but not for any significant parts of the general populace (I hope.)

We would all like to hope that.
Posted by: Abu Uluque   2018-09-04 14:11  

#10  It's not a matter of arbitration. Enforce the laws of the land. If you don't like them, change them. If you can't, then you can revolt, and let's sort it out with bullets.
Posted by: KBK   2018-09-04 12:22  

#9  A state that will not provide security in one's person, family or property has no legitimacy, neither does one that offers rituals rather than justice.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2018-09-04 07:45  

#8  So the Girl will be back among the living in 8 years right?
Posted by: CrazyFool   2018-09-04 07:44  

#7  To put this sentence into perspective: The maximum penalty for for murder in Germany is 15 years in prison if the defendant is tried as a juvenile.

This is a disgustingly mild punishment for an especially vile, treacherous and devious crime.
Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660   2018-09-04 07:34  

#6  Well said, Elmerert Hupens2660.
Posted by: trailing wife   2018-09-04 06:59  

#5  Chicago's violent Labor Day weekend leaves at least 6 dead; more than 1,000 shot since Memorial Day

Is there a consensus among parts of the Chicago population that these shootings were fundamentally legitimate, that the shootings restored justice where injustice would have prevailed?

That might be the case for the core gang member subculture, but not for any significant parts of the general populace (I hope.)

My point was that the 'murder' of this German girl isn't seen as murder at all by ordinary law abiding and decent Afghans. She was the lawbreaker and she was punished as she deserved.

The perpetrators are not outlaws, defying authority. The see themselves as executors and executioners acting in the name of legitimate authority.

This is why this conflict is so serious and dangerous.
Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660   2018-09-04 06:42  

#4  This is not about criminality, it is a clash of consensuses about what is right, legal and decent.

Chicago's violent Labor Day weekend leaves at least 6 dead; more than 1,000 shot since Memorial Day
Posted by: Skidmark   2018-09-04 06:11  

#3  Some monsths German public television interviewed people in D's hometown.

The 'men on the street' all agreed that a woman who flees the custody of her man must be put to death.

D acted according to the rules and laws of his society.

This is not about criminality, it is a clash of consensuses about what is right, legal and decent.

There's no commonly recognized authority that could act an an arbiter.

Force and only force will decide which consensus will prevail.

The same conclusion applies to the Amsterdam stabbing attack per this report.
Posted by: Elmerert Hupens2660   2018-09-04 03:13  

#2  "Adult? No, judge, not to my knowledge. He
Rejects un-Islamic chronology.
Please free him and polish
His knob, pay for college,
And offer the lad an apology!"
Posted by: Zenobia Floger6220   2018-09-04 01:19  

#1  He thought he was in London.
Posted by: Woodrow   2018-09-04 00:41  

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