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Home Front: Politix
Will the Last Person to Leave Illinois Please Turn Out the Light?
2018-12-22
[PJ] According to Census Bureau data released on Wednesday, the state of Illinois lost a net of 45,116 people in 2018 -- the fifth straight year the population of the state has suffered a net decline and the worst year yet for population loss.

Chicago Tribune:

This is terrible news for House Speaker Michael Madigan and his cronies who in recent decades have steered the Illinois General Assembly toward higher taxes, rising public debt and anti-business policies that discourage employers from locating, expanding or just keeping their workforces here. Residents fed up with the economic climate here are heading for less taxaholic, jobs-friendlier states.
The new numbers confront Democrats who’ve run the legislature ‐ and who keep raising taxes ‐ with realities they’ll wiggle to explain but can’t deny: As the nation’s population expands, the populations of Illinois and eight other states are declining. On their watch, an Illinois once revered as a land of opportunity now is in decline.

More ominously, every other state in the Midwest is growing.

Madigan, speaker of the Illinois House and the most powerful politician in the state, will have a new toy to play with in January. Newly-elected Governor J.B. Pritzker knows who his boss is and will ask "how high" when Madigan orders him to jump.

The rest of the census report isn't any better. About 114,000 people left the state for friendlier climes.

Why?
Posted by:Besoeker

#11  Allow me to elevate the conversation. Chi cago means "I shit there" in Italian.
Posted by: Regular joe   2018-12-22 18:33  

#10  I miss the Sink Trap... It was interesting, even entertaining, to read over the years.
Posted by: magpie   2018-12-22 14:32  

#9  Bring back the Sink Trap perhaps?
Posted by: Albert Gray3362   2018-12-22 14:25  

#8  Ref #1: He's a moderator?

Yes, Classical Liberal, Besoeker has been a moderator since 2015. He takes the responsibility seriously, both in terms of providing articles and in terms of keeping an eye out for spammers and certain of our madder posters. Hemingway, for instance, and drunk-voice-to-text guy. The Sink Trap did not survive one of Fred’s upgrades, so our only weapons are deleting posts and blocking posters.

That dear Neville Dark Lord of the Wee Folk7365 does not agree with Besoeker’s decision is one of the risks of moderating. I do not question Neville’s claim to have been a reader and commenter since 2009. The frustrating part is that he is clearly one of those who takes a new anonymous identity each time he posts, so I have absolutely no idea who he is, nor how he has behaved all these years, nor even whether his dislike of Besoeker predates Besoeker accepting Fred’s invitation. This, of course, is the reason one goes anonymous, and is his right, but there are downsides to that decision.

Moderating at Rantburg is a balancing act undertaken in moments carved out from daily life. The discussions here are as valuable, if not more so, as the articles themselves. But sometimes a commenter will get carried away into flame war territory, some are spammers or — like drunk-voice-to-text guy — just plain spew nonsense. And then there is Hemingway, under a variety of nyms, who claimed a military background but was outed by Pappy as a wannabe Scott Thomas Beauchamp, writer of luridly false articles about the war for The New Republic magazine as the Baghdad Diarist. And even that long ago blocked Saudi lad, JUSTICE, who had a thing for my armpit hair and a friend who’d taken CompSci101.

Besoeker was not the only moderator who deleted your posts, Neville Dark Lord of the Wee Folk7365. They were following the rules laid down by Steve White when he was senior moderator — I missed the excitement yesterday, or I’d have got involved then. But if you would like to join the moderating crew, my dear, please drop me a note in the O Club with your contact information. I would dearly love someone to take on the Britain/Europe Moslem Colonist beat, which needs more attention than I can give it.

P.S. Thank you for your description of Rantburg as an excellent site focused on national security issues. I shall treasure that.
Posted by: trailing wife   2018-12-22 14:06  

#7  Too bad they'll just screw up whereever they move to.

Californicators, Massholes, Noo Yawkers and Cheka-goans -- America's very own internal rapefugees.
Posted by: charger   2018-12-22 12:56  

#6  Ref #1: He has a personality? Them's fightin' words!

It was a good rant. Not sure what the issue is here exactly, but two things I do know:
Oftentimes, someone has to act as the grownup to keep the place tidy.
Occasionally, comments get deleted accidentally. It happens.
Posted by: SteveS   2018-12-22 12:13  

#5  Ref #1: He's a moderator?
Posted by: Classical_Liberal   2018-12-22 11:38  

#4  Politicians elected with Union backing and money signing pension programs that basically reduce the citizens of Illinois into generational tax servitude. Can you say conflict of interest? Can you say abandonment of fiduciary responsibilities?

Two wolves discussing how to cut up the sheep.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2018-12-22 10:01  

#3  Will the last person to leave Illinois please pay off those public pensions?
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418   2018-12-22 09:08  

#2  Classic Rant #1. I however do not agree. Tis the season.
Posted by: Dale   2018-12-22 02:27  

#1  Besoeker

I am accusing you gross misconduct as a moderator.

As a reader, contributor and commenter since 2009 I have never seen the kind of misconduct by a 'moderator' until the unfortunate day you transitioned from a reader and a commenter to 'moderator'.

1) You are deleting comments at random of commenters that in no way violate rules of conduct at this site.

2) When commenters engage in a debate of an issue you attempt to shut that debate down when it is not in violation of rules of conduct. When one of those commenters call you out on that attempt you go on a comment deleting rampage.

Your personality issues clearly do not point to a reasonable resolution, therefore I am saying strongly that you need to cease moderating.

I am taking a screen shot of this comment and if you chose to delete it I have that information available for others to view. If other moderators chose to delete the comment and investigate Besoekers misconduct, that is fine with me, but leave a comment that clearly indicates you are looking into the issue.

As an excellent site focused on national security issues a rogue individual harassing community who are in dialogue of their opinions demeans the spirit of the site.
Posted by: Neville Dark Lord of the Wee Folk7365   2018-12-22 00:45  

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