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Africa North
Haftar Forces Say Shot Down Unity Government Plane
2019-07-07
[AnNahar] Troops loyal to Libyan military strongman Khalifa Haftar
...Self-proclaimed Field Marshal, served in the Libyan army under Muammar Qadaffy, and took part in the coup that brought Qadaffy to power in 1969. He became a prisoner of war in Chad in 1987. While held prisoner, he and his fellow officers formed a group hoping to overthrow Qadaffy, so it's kind of hard to describe him as a Qadaffy holdover. He was released around 1990 in a deal with the United States government and spent nearly two decades in the United States, gaining US citizenship. In 1993, while living in the United States, he was convicted in absentia of crimes against the Jamahiriya and sentenced to death. Haftar held a senior position in the anti-Qadaffy forces in the 2011 Libyan Civil War. In 2014 he was commander of the Libyan Army when the General National Congress (GNC) refused to give up power in accordance with its term of office. Haftar launched a campaign against the GNC and its Islamic fundamentalist allies. His campaign allowed elections to take place to replace the GNC, but then developed into a civil war. Guess you can't win them all...
said they shot down a plane belonging to forces loyal to the rival unity government, which acknowledged losing contact with one of its aircraft.

Haftar's front man Ahmad al-Mesmari said Thursday night an L39 Albatros was shot down near the town of Tarhuna, a rear base of the self-styled Libyan National Army located 80 kilometres (50 miles) southeast of Tripoli
...a confusing city, one end of which is located in Lebanon and the other end of which is the capital of Libya. Its chief distinction is being mentioned in the Marine Hymn...
GNA forces, under attack around Tripoli by Haftar's forces since early April, said they had lost contact with an air force L39 that was on a combat mission south of the capital.

There was no word on the crew's fate.

The two rival camps, locked in battle on the ground, have both lost several planes in the past three months of fighting.
Posted by:trailing wife

#8  and is supported by Caliph Yippy. Nuff said
Posted by: Frank G   2019-07-07 15:26  

#7  Field Marshall Haftar and Egypt’s President Sisi have been working together to clear jihadis from their shared border region, and Sisi has continued to support his efforts to regain control of the rest of the country.

In contrast, the GNA can’t even maintain control of Tripoli.
Posted by: trailing wife   2019-07-07 15:23  

#6  Haftar is the 'better' side here. Sworn to total destruction of the Muslim Brotherhood, Haftar has support of Libya's military and some militias too, for multiple reasons of their own. For now, the agenda is to get rid of anti-democratic islamist groups.

As we have all come to see, if not understand, every dictator, authoritarian, oligarch seems to fervently desire democracy for his country. That magical cauldron of legislators, houses, departments and ministries out of which come laws and ordinances establishing immutable authorities. The word that gives legitimacy to any whim and fancy of a group, and the people swallow it as having come from their mandate given to their 'representative'. That should explain Haftar's personal reasons.
he appears to be force against islamization and the proliferation of armed rag-head sasquatches. He believes in a democratic govt and constitution oriented society, with no room for sharia in it; but all this could change I suppose. The main thing is, that he is a good pain the ass to islamist groups, fundamentalist pressure groups and supporters of Hezbollah and Hamas. If Haftar stays in power, he should prove useful to the US and Israel. After all, the US sheltered him for years. He was an investment by the CIA in a future challenger to Ghaddafi. He has paid a good dividend to you since 2014, and continues to keep the pressure on for the numerous islamic factions.

He refused when the UN Yupp. Them again sponsored a resolution calling for a ceasefire and talks with GNA Govt of National Accord, an UN sponsored interim government. This transitional government, which preceded the GNC, General National Congress, co-opted militias to fill the security vacuum left by Ghaddafi loyalists. These militias affiliated later with Al quaeda, ISIS and Hamas to challenge and commandeer state institutions of Libya for their own use

Trump is known to have personally called him and congratulated him, offering behind-the-scenes assistance. Of course, Haftar continues to receive assistance from not only the CIA, but also the UAE, Russia and Egypt.

I believe it's a case of 'lesser evil' as always.
Posted by: Dron66046   2019-07-07 14:41  

#5  Is there a definable 'better' side in this squabble or is this just another of those "can they both lose" situations?
Posted by: AlanC   2019-07-07 13:24  

#4  Thank you, Frank G.
Posted by: trailing wife   2019-07-07 09:14  

#3  ManPads
Posted by: Frank G   2019-07-07 08:23  

#2  What are FN6 weapons?
Posted by: trailing wife   2019-07-07 08:20  

#1  the LNA claims to have a number of FN6 weapons they either captured from the GNA or were given by agents of Egypt or the UAE

a very believable claim given the events of the past week

Posted by: lord garth   2019-07-07 02:34  

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