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NATO ‘Ally' Germany Won't Back U.S. in Gulf to Avoid War with Iran
2019-07-31
[Breitbart] The U.S. has requested naval cooperation from Germany in the Strait of Hormuz as tensions with Iran escalate, but the political leaders of the European nation have refused to assist their NATO allies.

The German Federal Foreign Office said that Washington has approached them to contribute to a new surveillance mission in the Persian Gulf but had rejected the appeal saying there was no prospect of a contribution, German tabloid Bild reports.

Germany’s allies, including the U.S. and the UK, have been attacked in the Persian Gulf by Iran in recent months. and under the doctrine of collective defence guaranteed by the NATO alliance, Germany is duty-bound to come to the aid of its allies if asked. Yet senior members of Angela Merkel’s left-centrist coalition government have made clear working with the U.S. is out of the question.
Posted by:Besoeker

#14  ..while you are at it, get a replacement for the UN with (classical) democratic countries that recognizes each others sovereignty.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2019-07-31 21:46  

#13  We need to recognize we are dealing with the Fourth Reich. France and Italy are all in, just like the last time. We need to decide what we want to do about Poland and all those other far away countries we know little about. Time to reorganize Nato around real democracies.
Posted by: Mrs. Davis   2019-07-31 19:53  

#12  Merkel is East German.
Posted by: Snating Gray1918   2019-07-31 18:34  

#11  NATO's death rattles falling on deaf ears. Though, I think Trump too once said it's outlived its purpose.
Posted by: Dron66046   2019-07-31 13:13  

#10  under the doctrine of collective defence guaranteed by the NATO alliance, Germany is duty-bound to come to the aid of its allies if asked.

This is wrong. It only applies if one of us is attacked, and only then in Europe or the North Atlantic. You think the organization drew its name from a hat?

NATO Article 5:

"The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area."
Posted by: Herb McCoy   2019-07-31 12:53  

#9  Germany imports 80% of it's oil from Russia, Norway and the UK.
I doubt they have much exposure in the Persian Gulf. Hence they gave the No.1 sign to the rest of the world.
That's ok, I doubt they have the navy to be of any use.
Posted by: Thimp Clusort2035   2019-07-31 12:12  

#8  Last I heard the Kriegsmarine was basically the nautical equivalent of a hanger queen.
Posted by: Mercutio   2019-07-31 11:53  

#7  Like we need Germany for this....
Posted by: DarthVader   2019-07-31 10:01  

#6  They are our staunch NATO all lies like France !
Posted by: Omorong Black8889   2019-07-31 10:01  

#5  Nah, she's already traded Germany's soul to Putin and Russian pipelines.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2019-07-31 09:31  

#4  Does Germany get any oil through the Straight of Hormuz? Would I be a bad person hoping the next tanker to be detained/damaged/sunk was destined for Germany?

Or is that pre-karma?
Posted by: Bobby   2019-07-31 08:31  

#3  Time for our military to pack up everything, including the kitchen sink and waste papers and ship them back to the US, then leave Germany for good.

We can move the military hospital to Poland.
Posted by: Seeking Cure For Ignorance   2019-07-31 07:24  

#2  It's amazing how much she looks like her father



Posted by: Woodrow   2019-07-31 07:21  

#1  An absolutely shocking turn of events.
Posted by: Besoeker   2019-07-31 06:01  

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