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T-72 VS Javelin Missile (video)
2022-03-06
[YouTube] In recent months Russian T-72B3M and some older T-72B variants have been seen with a new, special "sun visor" bolted to their turrets to prevent strikes from top-attack munitions, particularly the American FGM-148 Javelin antitank guided missile. Despite appearing to be relatively inexpensive this could grant the T-72 or any tank ever for that matter the ability to defend itself from attacks coming in at a very high angle without requiring expensive hard-kill active protection systems.
Posted by:Besoeker

#15  RE #10: Ukrainians released that 300 Javelin shots have been taken so far. 280 destroyed vehicles. The new Javelins from the Baltics and US should be filtering to the combat units soon.
Posted by: Angaiper Ulavins1210   2022-03-06 22:01  

#14  To #7
I knew a marine who's lav-25 could be equipped with Era blocks. He preferred not to use them because they were heavy and slowed their vehicle down.
Posted by: Cleting Closh2157   2022-03-06 20:34  

#13  No we're just retired investors, living on a pension, trying to makea little money in the markets
Posted by: Kojo Spolush7239   2022-03-06 16:28  

#12   When are you guys going to stop being pr agents for Russia? is this the US right now, a Russian agency?
Posted by: Omaing Stalag1261   2022-03-06 16:22  

#11  ^ Only reason you fly where Stingers are known to be present is you have been ordered to. Call me when some Russ planes start landing at NATO bases.
Posted by: M. Murcek   2022-03-06 11:14  

#10  As for the troll who suggested our weapons were junk, add this from 1945
(https://www.19fortyfive.com/2022/03/is-the-russias-military-starting-to-fall-apart-in-ukraine/)

On Saturday alone, the Ukrainian military shot down eight Russian manned and unmanned aircraft. More specifically, Ukrainian air defenses destroyed one Su-30SM Flanker multirole fighter jet, one Su-34 Fullback strike jet, two Su-25 attack jets, two Mi-24/35 attack helicopters, one Mi-8 transport helicopter, and one Orlan-10 unmanned aerial system.

According to the Ukrainian Ministry of Defense, in the ten days of war, the Ukrainian military has shot down 44 Russian fighter, attack, and transport aircraft and 44 helicopters. And U.S. defense officials assess that the Ukrainian Air Force can still conduct sorties and maintains overall air superiority.
American-provide FIM-92 Stinger anti-aircraft Man-Portable, Air Defense Missile Systems (MANPADS) have played an important role in ensuring that Russian aircraft don’t operate freely over Ukraine.



Posted by: NoMoreBS   2022-03-06 11:12  

#9  /\ I never met an Infantryman who did not hold the A-10 in the highest regard.
Posted by: Besoeker   2022-03-06 08:10  

#8  ...like.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2022-03-06 08:03  

#7  Thereis one theory that detonating the warhead 1-1.5 meters from the tank actually increases penetration because the plasma jet is better formed when it reaches the hull.
Posted by: Angaiper Ulavins1210 2022-03-06 03:43


...That is actually true - in fact, some AT missiles have a probe at the nose to set this effect up quite nicely. That feature has kind of faded with improvements in warhead design, or the two-warhead solution JAVELIN uses, but it can still be found quite readily.

One thing I've noticed - and I will cheerfully admit to error here - is I've not seen a lot of pics of destroyed Russian tanks with reactive armor. This was supposed to be the Last Word in tank defense at the time, but turned out to only be really useful for older tanks (think M48/60, T-55/62). Improvements in armor tech pretty much bypassed it for anything except use in urban combat, and two-warhead weapons like JAVELIN pretty much make it pointless.

I had one individual some years ago expound on how RA would make the A-10s gun useless. When he was done, an A-10 pilot smiled, looked at him and said, "Yeah, it'll likely stop the first three or four rounds. It's the hundred or so right behind it that he's gotta worry about."

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2022-03-06 07:59  

#6  Just before the war began, the Ukrainians set up derelict armored vehicle with a steel roof cage and fired a Javelin at it. It the warhead sliced through the cage, the turret top and out the side.

There is one theory that detonating the warhead 1-1.5 meters from the tank actually increases penetration because the plasma jet is better formed when it reaches the hull.
Posted by: Angaiper Ulavins1210   2022-03-06 03:43  

#5  Despite appearing to be relatively inexpensive this could grant the T-72 or any tank ever for that matter the ability to defend itself from attacks coming in at a very high angle without requiring expensive hard-kill active protection systems.

...To quote one Mr. L. Skywalker, "Impressive... Every word in that sentence was wrong."

Spoilers, lad: they don't work. Not one tiny little bit.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2022-03-06 03:17  

#4  I thought the Russians would have been happier if we were shipping the Ukranians junk weapons that didn't work.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain   2022-03-06 01:54  

#3  I'd like to speak to the manager. The quality of trolls on this board has fallen off dramatically!
Posted by: Nero   2022-03-06 00:52  

#2  ^ Authentic Frontier Gibberish.
Posted by: Frank G   2022-03-06 00:28  

#1  Second hand marketing and ignorant shilling for American junk
Cut the fucking parasites in our government 90% and decimated the 50% that are left trow their families on the streets for the damage that they caused to us fk them!
Posted by: Ichnusa aka baafod   2022-03-06 00:22  

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