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Home Front: Politix
Ukraine Worked with Democrats Against Trump in 2016 to Stop Putin. The Bet Backfired Badly.
2022-03-13
[Gateway] Six years ago, before Russia’s full-scale invasion of their country, the Ukrainians bet that a Hillary Clinton presidency would offer better protection from Russian President Vladimir Putin, even though he had invaded Crimea during the Obama-Biden administration, whose Russian policies Clinton vowed to continue.
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Working with both the Obama administration and the Clinton campaign, Ukrainian government officials intervened in the 2016 race to help Clinton and hurt Donald Trump in a sweeping and systematic foreign influence operation that’s been largely ignored by the press. The improper, if not illegal, operation was run chiefly out of the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington, where officials worked hand-in-glove with a Ukrainian-American activist and Clinton campaign operative to attack the Trump campaign. The Obama White House was also deeply involved in an effort to groom their own favored leader in Ukraine and then work with his government to dig up dirt on — and even investigate — their political rival.

Ukrainian and Democratic operatives also huddled with American journalists to spread damaging information on Trump and his advisers — including allegations of illicit Russian-tied payments that, though later proved false, forced the resignation of his campaign manager Paul Manafort. The embassy actually weighed a plan to get Congress to investigate Manafort and Trump and stage hearings in the run-up to the election.
Posted by:Besoeker

#7  Rod Dreher in The American Conservative:
Ukraine is This Year's BLM
...it’s a branding opportunity. It’s just like how all the corporations sought to sign on to Black Lives Matter, to show that We Care™ about the cause du jour.
Posted by: Porthos   2022-03-13 11:50  

#6  Everyone in the US with a MAGA hat is deemed a "literal Nazi" who you're supposed to punch and/or imprison, but liberals see actual, real-life Nazis in Ukraine and either swoon with admiration, arm them, or call you a Kremlin agent for wondering if this might work out poorly.

- Glenn Greenwald
Posted by: M. Murcek   2022-03-13 11:23  

#5  I thought this interesting:

In effect, Obama officials greased a revolution. Within months, Yanukovych was exiled and replaced by Petro Poroshenko, who would later do Biden’s bidding – including firing a prosecutor investigating his son Hunter.

It wasn’t Zelensky who was president of the Ukraine at the time, it was the man he replaced. Part of losing that bet was that Mr. Poroshenko was president no more. And President Trump was just providing support for President Zelensky to do what he fully intended to do anyway — shut down the mess his predecessor had made with all the Democrats.
Posted by: trailing wife   2022-03-13 11:22  

#4  Also Hillary's people. We've been focused on Christopher Steele, Marc Elias, Perkins Coie law firm, "GPS" shit-stirrers et al.

But no one's following up on the Ukrainian embassy and their unregistered foreign agents, Hillary's little girls at "Blue Star": Painter and Tramontano. Painter intervened with Blinken on behalf of Hunter Biden.

Posted by: No Fortunate Son   2022-03-13 10:46  

#3  If America had an independent journalist community maybe someone would question how the Ukraine war relates to years of Biden Family corruption in Ukraine.
Posted by: Airandee   2022-03-13 10:31  

#2  Ukrainian and Democratic operatives also huddled with American journalists to spread damaging information on Trump and his advisers

So obvious. The one US president of the last 30 years to resist NATO expansion has to be undermined by the Ukrainian-Democrat cabal. Trump PREVENTED Russian invasions. The Ukrainian-Democrat cabal PROVOKED Russian invasion.

Fuck these people, every last one of them - Hillary, Vindman, Nuland, Sally Painter. Damn them to hell for the mischief and damage these conniving idiots have caused us. And the world.
Posted by: No Fortunate Son   2022-03-13 10:23  

#1  Ciaramella was a CIA detailee to the White House occupying the NSC’s Ukraine desk in 2015 and 2016. In that role, Ciaramella met face-to-face with top Ukrainian officials and provided policy advice to Biden through the then-vice president’s security adviser Michael Carpenter. He also worked with Nuland and Chalupa.Ciaramella was carried over to the Trump White House.

The scales appear to be falling from my eyes.
Posted by: Besoeker   2022-03-13 08:23  

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