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Douglas Macgregor, Col. (ret.): Playing War in Ukraine

2022-10-28

[American Conservative] As the astute author Hunter S. Thompson noted, "When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." Weird is indisputably the condition in Great Britain, where Liz Truss, an arguably empty and talentless prime minister, is out—and was, it seemed for a moment, very nearly replaced by her vacuous predecessor, Boris Johnson.

Weirdness, however, is not foreign to American politics. An indicator of just how weird Washington is becoming is the apparent interest in General (ret.) David Petraeus’s recent suggestion that Washington and its allies may want to intervene in the ongoing conflict between Moscow and Kiev.

According to Petraeus, the military action he advocates would not be a NATO intervention, but "a multinational force led by the US and not as a NATO force." In other words, a U.S.-led Multi-National Force on the Iraq model composed of conventional ground, air, and naval forces.

Petraeus does not explain why U.S. military action is needed. But it’s not hard to guess. The intervention is designed to rescue Ukrainian forces from defeat and presumably compel Moscow to negotiate on Washington’s terms, whatever those terms might be.

Admittedly, the whole business seems weird, but Petraeus’s suggestion should not be dismissed. Not because Petraeus’s military expertise warrants consideration—it doesn’t.

Ouch.

Rather it merits attention because Petraeus would never make such a recommendation unless he was urged to do so by powerful figures in Washington and on Wall Street. And as Jeffrey Sachs tells Americans, globalist and neocon elites clearly want a direct armed confrontation with Russia.

For Petraeus, it is business as usual. He rose through the ranks by checking with everyone in a position of authority above him before doing anything. Seeking permission to ensure no one in authority is offended (like a "coalition of the willing") is key to promotion. It works well in peacetime, or during wars of choice against weak, incapable enemies that present no existential military threat to Western forces. But Ukraine is not Iraq nor is the Russian Army an Iraqi-like force, or mounted on "technicals"—pickup trucks with automatic cannon.

Posted by:Besoeker

#4 Yeah, go ahead. Tell me the globalists are not lusting for Russia's energy and mineral wealth. Not to mention the forces they could then array against China. It's all about wealth and power, nothing whatsoever about democracy.

Posted by: Abu Uluque 2022-10-28 12:54

#3 More wisdom from Col. Doug Macgregor — fortunately, someone in DC still remembers what was said by our wisest student of Russia, the brilliant and resolutely anti-NATO expansion US diplomat and scholar George Kennan:

“The usual war hawks in the White House, the Pentagon, the CIA, and on the Hill probably assume that a quiescent American electorate will buy the argument that the commitment of U.S. forces in Ukraine without a declaration of war could facilitate a face-saving deal with Moscow.

It's dangerous and stupid to think so, and Americans should reject this notion, but it’s not unreasonable to assume this deluded thinking is prevalent inside the beltway. George F. Kennan, American diplomat and historian, insisted 30 years ago that, “We [Americans] tend to overemphasize military factors at the expense of political ones, and in consequence, overmilitarize our responses.”

The result, Kennan argued, is Washington’s chronic failure to relate the development and use of American military power to attainable ends of national strategy… .”

Posted by: Billy B 2022-10-28 08:45

#2 The excerpt above missed the most important part of Col. Doug Macgregor’s shrewd analysis: that Petraeus is reduced to mouthing such a stupid proposal is proof positive that the war is lost.

The Ukrainians are getting their asses kicked, and the Russians are about to — are starting to — bring the hammer down.

This is the key part of Col. Macgregor’s astute analysis:

Petraeus’s suggestion confirms two critical insights.

First, the perilous state of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Absent the foreign fighters and Polish soldiers fighting in Ukrainian uniform, Ukraine has little left to withstand the Russian winter offensives. The series of Ukrainian counterattacks over the last 60 to 90 days have cost Ukraine tens of thousands of lives, human capital in uniform that Kiev cannot replace.

Second, it is the 11th hour. The Russian sledgehammer scheduled to fall on the Zelensky regime in the November or December timeframe, or whenever the ground freezes, will crush whatever remains of Ukrainian forces.

In other words, Petraeus’s real message is that the only way to prolong the life of the Zelensky regime is for Washington and its coalition of the willing to intervene directly before it's too late.

Posted by: Billy B 2022-10-28 08:40

#1 Possibly not your favorite author, but even the broken clock has two daily points of accuracy.

Posted by: Besoeker 2022-10-28 03:10

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