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About the effectiveness of the Patriot PAC-3 air defense system
2022-12-25
Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited.
[ColonelCassad] The expert is mistaken (https://t.me/zvoboz/943) about the fact that the Patriot PAC-3 was not used in combat conditions. The Patriot air defense system of the PAC-3 modification was used in Yemen as part of the Jizan and Asir air defense units. At least two batteries were removed from the Riyadh area and transferred to the southwest of Saudi Arabia to cover infrastructure facilities and Saudi Aramco facilities.

The reason is trivial - the Patriot in the PAC-2 modification turned out to be ineffective against Iranian drones, ballistic and cruise missiles. This caused not only the discontent of the Saudis, who brought him to the United States (including the demand to supply THAAD complexes to Saudi Arabia), but even a series of publications in the mainstream American media (possibly paid by the Saudis), which directly indicated that the advertising parameters " Patriot" PAC-2 at odds with reality.

In fact, on a larger scale, the claims against the Patriot that arose after Operation Desert Storm, when it turned out that a significant part of Saddam Hussein's missiles quite successfully reached their targets, were repeated on a larger scale.

After the increased use of the Patriot PAC-3, as well as the involvement of aircraft to fight drones and cruise missiles, the percentage of downed missiles and drones increased (in this regard, the PAC-3 version is certainly more dangerous than the PAC-2), but up to the conclusion ceasefire, the Houthis on a regular basis continued to break through the air defense of the Saudis and hit important objects on the territory of Saudi Arabia, which proved that the PAC-3 does not give any guarantee, even against Iranian weapons, which the Iranians were very pleased with, especially considering that significant some of the drones and missiles are assembled in artisanal conditions on the territory of war-torn Yemen, but this is quite enough to fight the air defense systems of the world military hegemon.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin/73521 - zinc

I recently wrote about the supplies themselves here.
Underestimate, as well as overestimate, these complexes should not be. If there is an opportunity to destroy, it must be destroyed.

They will put them in Ukraine for sure earlier than they publicly declare. Very likely, together with American operators.

Posted by:badanov

#10  We shouldn't make it easy for them at all.
Posted by: M. Murcek    2022-12-25 11:38  

#9  Given that most of the key components are by contract to be only of American origin, as much as the Russians or Chinese try, it'll take them a heap of technology to try to replicate. Given that both parties suffer with Q&A in the high end stuff, its not going to happen tomorrow.
Posted by: Procopius2k   2022-12-25 11:34  

#8  Tell us how

You just ignorant or one of Dale's buddies?
Posted by: M. Murcek    2022-12-25 10:31  

#7  Breakdown of the Patriot and the S-400 from an actual user and trainer of the system
Posted by: DarthVader   2022-12-25 10:18  

#6  Patriots won't be shot at drones. They are for the ballistic missiles (remaining Iskanders and future Iranian SRBMs) and any cruise missiles the other SAMs and fighters missed.

And the Patriots will also be protected by short range air defense.

Giving a Patriot battery to Ukraine is a great way to transfer that tech to Russia and China.

Tell us how.
Posted by: Thesing Gurly-Brown8929   2022-12-25 09:41  

#5  /\ Then a new system will have to be developed by the Military Industrial Complex.
Posted by: Besoeker   2022-12-25 08:58  

#4  Giving a Patriot battery to Ukraine is a great way to transfer that tech to Russia and China.
Posted by: M. Murcek   2022-12-25 08:16  

#3  Sort of like how flight schools here trained muzz to take off but not land...
Posted by: M. Murcek   2022-12-25 08:15  

#2  Pentagon Considers Training Ukrainians On Patriot Missiles Inside The US
Posted by: Skidmark   2022-12-25 08:09  

#1  PAC-3 is an expensive, complicated weapon. It's not a cost-effective way to deal with the sort of drones the houthis were using. It's only as good as the crews operating it.
Posted by: M. Murcek   2022-12-25 05:22  

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