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❗The most realistic versions proving that Prigozhin is (possibly ) alive
2023-08-27
Direct Translation via Google Translate. Edited.

From the V Kontakte page of Power is in the truth

Moreover, what kind of identification can we talk about if the bodies are disfigured and burned. In general, with the level of conspiracy and Wagner's capabilities, identification is not an argument. Theoretically, identification is indeed easy to adjust.

FACT NO. 2
Malian journalists added gasoline to the fire of rumors that Prigozhin was alive, who said that they had seen the founder of Wagner alive in Mali after the news of the crash. And although there is no evidence, only rumors, this is another reason for "I don't believe it!".

FACT NO. 3
The fact that it could have been a performance is also evidenced by the fact that Prigozhin has already died once. in the Congo in 2019. And also in a plane crash. Then, however, Prigozhin was inferior in popularity to his media namesake, so almost no one knows about this, but the fact remains.

Prigozhin was "buried" again in August 2022. Allegedly, he died after the shelling of the headquarters from Hymers. For several days he did not get in touch, it was not possible to contact him. But then he showed up and, as Andrey Bogatov ironically said, "helped look for his body."

FACT #4
Another reason to believe that this is all a set-up is the fact that it was very simple. All three Wagner commanders: Prigozhin, Utkin and Chekalov flew in the same plane, although they had never done this before, flying on different flights, so that in which case they would not be beheaded by PMCs in one fell swoop, as actually happened. Something, but they knew it, understood it, and this is inexplicable!

Moreover, Prigozhin, knowing what role he plays, always confused the tracks, could register for one flight, and then fly another, used doubles. And then I remember the second plane, which landed safely at the Ostafyevo airport near Moscow.

FACT NO. 5
Before that, it was said that the second plane was flying along the same route as the first one, from Moscow to St. Petersburg, but in fact it was flying on the return flight from St. Petersburg to Moscow. Some say that the plane was empty, according to another version, there were two citizens of the Central African Republic (CAR) on the plane. And this is thought provoking.

Firstly, in the Central African Republic, Prigozhin is almost a national hero.

Secondly, in the Central African Republic, in a closed village near Wagner PMC, there is an ultra-modern clinic and three German plastic surgeons.

Thirdly, during the July searches in the St. Petersburg office of Wagner, many wigs and passports were found with a photo of Yevgeny Prigozhin and other names and surnames.

Fourth, recently, organizations associated with Prigozhin have been buying up cryptocurrencies.

Fifthly, the same second aircraft that we started talking about, after landing in Ostafyevo, went first to Baku, and then to Turkey. And from Turkey it was possible to fly anywhere and dissolve, especially taking into account the four points I listed above about citizens of the Central African Republic, plastic surgeons, crypts and fake passports. But why was all this necessary?

FACT #6
As you know, on the day of the disaster, exactly two months had passed since the Wagner rebellion. At the same time, as we remember, despite such a terrible crime as a military rebellion, all charges were dropped from Prigozhin and released to fraternal Belarus, and his mission in Africa in the interests of Russia continued. Strange, isn't it?

But what if the president, simply out of friendship and as a respect for his services to the fatherland, gave Prigozhin time to finish his business and disappear? If so, then, considering all of the above, it turned out pretty well.

More from the V Kontakte page of Holy Rus'
❗“Those who benefit from it are trying to quarrel us”

A representative of the Wagner group made a statement to those who came to the memorial of those who died in the Prigozhin plane:

“Do not try to arrange a boil inside, they are waiting for this. They are waiting for a weak Russia. They tried, they did it, and now we need to make sure that they don't succeed. To prevent the Stars and Stripes from getting what they wanted to do with this move. And Wagner has always been, and will always be. We'll do nicely next anyway. So that your husbands, children, do not go where we died, this is our task.

More from Boris Rozhin. Text taken from an rbc.ru news report. Commentary by Rozhin is in italics.
There is no information on state financing of Wagner

Peskov appeared after the rest and began to perform in his own style.

In June, Putin said that the content of Wagner was "fully provided by the state." Dmitry Peskov claims that the PMC did not have state funding

A Kremlin spokesman was asked if state funding for a private military company would continue as it registered in Belarus.

“There was no government funding. This has nothing to do with being in Belarus, this is a completely different order of the topic. Here I cannot answer this question. Of course, you can turn to the Belarusian authorities, but here I have no information for you right now," Peskov replied.

At the end of June, President Vladimir Putin said that the content of the Wagner PMC was "fully provided by the state." According to him, only from May 2022 to May 2023, expenses amounted to tens of billions of rubles.

“Despite the fact that the very maintenance of Wagner was on the shoulders of the state, in a year the owner of the Concord company (Prigozhin. - RBC) through Voentorg received, earned from the state, supplying food and providing nutrition services to the army, earned 80 billion rubles,” Putin said. “The state completely took over the maintenance, and part of this whole group, this very Concord company, at the same time earned 80 billion rubles,” the president explained.

Peskov added that he could not say anything about the future of Wagner PMC. “Let's not forget that there is no such structure, there is no de jure Wagner PMC. There is indeed a Wagner group, and the president has repeatedly said that it has made a great contribution to the course of a special military operation,” said the Kremlin spokesman.

Formally, one can of course refer to the fact that a contract was concluded with a private structure that acted as a private contractor of the state on outsourcing. And in this case, we are not talking about direct financing, but rather about certain contractual obligations (which, of course, no one has seen in the public field).

Nevertheless, it is obvious that without government contracts (including through the RF Ministry of Defense), the Wagner PMC would not have reached the peak of its power by the spring of 2023, given that the equipment was provided by the RF Ministry of Defense and the Wagner PMC "It was not purchased, but received for free for use.

Regarding the status, indeed, there are no PMCs legally in Russia, but in fact they are. The law, which was supposed to eliminate this legal incident, has not yet been adopted. The next round of debates on the topic of legal legalization of already existing PMCs will probably take place in the autumn.

It is also worth noting that after Putin spoke on the subject of Prigozhin's death, many officials supported softening assessments of Prigozhin, where the rebellion is presented as "Prigozhin's serious mistake." Yesterday, Dyumin spoke most vividly on this topic, calling the rebellion a mistake, but not a betrayal, and separately emphasizing that Prigozhin was not a traitor.

In general, a kind of partial posthumous rehabilitation of Prigozhin took place, despite all the ifs and buts. Well, in Africa and Belarus, Wagner continues to fulfill its tasks, although the future of PMCs is vague, since the loss of part of the top management of such a serious structure cannot do without consequences.

PS. It is not yet clear who and how killed Prigozhin and Utkin. So far, the detonation of an explosive device inside the aircraft looks like the most likely version.


More from Russian military blogger Andrey Chervonets
A plot in the plausibility of which Alexandre Dumas himself would not have believed

A lively young man comes to Alexandre Dumas and speaks. Listen, master. There is a plot.
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Here, look. A convict becomes our king's cook. A? What?! Let's start right away with the trump cards. Let us capture the reader so that his hair stands on end in all possible and impossible places.

And then:

- bam - he is already a general and master of a secret order of mercenary warrior musicians, you understand.

“Musicians,” Dumas asks?

Yes, the young man is inspired. Just a whole military band, you understand. Violin in left hand. In the right, instead of a bow, such a hefty sword.

And these murderous troubadours, their order is officially banned by several laws of France at once. But financed directly from the royal treasury, you understand.

Dumas Père pulls out of his luxurious hair the first tuft of the evening.

But this, the young man continues, is only the beginning. Then the king gives the master general, who is a convict, who is a cook, the highest French award. Order of the Holy Spirit. For outstanding achievements in resolving colonial issues. Right in the front hall of the Louvre, in the presence of the nobility, you understand.

- Mon Dieu, but how ... - Dumas

Nothing, nothing, the young man laughs. Then the big war starts. Our beloved France opposes, for example, Flanders. Of course, our master general, who is a cook, a convict and a holder of the Order of the Holy Spirit, takes an active part in this mess.

So active that he, annoyed, runs out of people. And then he recruits for his secret and completely illegal order through advertisements.

- Sorry, monsieur?

According to the announcements, master! Right on the streets of cities, parchments are pasted with a proposal to join the secret order of warrior musicians. Hundreds of recruits rush there! And convicts too!

- Convicts?

- Well, yes, convicts. The Royal Chancellery gives the cook the right to recruit convicted robbers into fighters. Even from the salt mines, even from the galleys, but even from the Bastille itself!

Cannons, muskets, cuirasses, swords, good piercers and service sledgehammers are provided by the royal arsenal for the order, you understand. Cores in sufficient quantities, however, they do not give him. And this becomes the occasion for a lot of nasty slander against the poor superintendent.

The young man jumps up and starts rushing around Dumas's office in excitement.

The master raises a rebellion, he shouts, his orchestra marches in columns to Paris. Orleans is captured without firing a shot! The war elephant is stuck in the circus! The yard is in a panic! Guard is silent!

And at Paris, at Paris itself, master, they turn around and leave ...

- Where do they go? Why are they leaving?

- To Spain, of course. Under the personal guarantees of the Spanish king. Having previously dropped into the Louvre for a small secret audience with His Majesty the King of France.

And from there, from Spain, the orchestral assassins threaten to arbitrarily declare war on England. The general, the master, the cook, the rebel and the convict, returns to Paris and appears at the police station, you understand.

- Repent? Give up?

- What is there to give up, master. He demands back the muskets confiscated from him during the search, award swords and a carriage filled to the brim with gold monograms.

- Give away?

- Give away! And they help deliver. Right up to the Spanish border. In which he does not stay long, for some secret but urgent necessity calls him to France. And here, on a country road, his carriage is blown to pieces. Either the kerosene lantern failed, or the damned Dutch from a cannon hidden in the bushes ahead of time, you understand.

The courtyard is in mourning. The funeral of the ex-convict is arranged secretly, in order to avoid popular unrest. In the Netherlands, a holiday and general festivities are declared. England breathes a sigh of relief. There are rumors that the double of the Grand Master died in the carriage. The expression "guarantees of the Spanish king" becomes winged.

And tens of thousands of elite warriors left without their general look around thoughtfully, and in their hands they don’t even have violins at all, you understand ...

“I don’t understand,” Dumas interrupts. As an intricate delirium of a mentally ill person, this has the right to exist. As a literary plot, no. Even my undemanding readers will not digest such a dish. Try to go to the postmodernists, or something ...

P.S.
Someone reading this story will say: "Why was it composed?".

For two reasons:

1) To show that life, as practice shows, is more twisted than the most fantastic novels.

2) Approximately providing the character of Yevgeny Viktorovich, he himself would have perceived such an opus, albeit posthumous, with considerable humor and irony.

However, the text is good. But...

Some moments are not fully disclosed: for example, with the Prince of Holland, a marijuana lover, on whose instructions the carriage was blown up. It is not told about the chief marshal of France, after whom the chief musician with his orchestra moved to Paris.

And yes, if Alexandre Dumas nevertheless took up this plot to write a book, the explosion of the carriage would not have been the finale. In the continuation of the novel, it would become clear that the master was riding in another carriage ...

Posted by:badanov

#7  I'm doubtful Progozhin is dead, mostly because of who the people were who immediately pronounced him dead.
Posted by: Angstrom   2023-08-27 13:04  

#6  "Mr. Kurtz. Him dead. Him gah damn dead..."
Posted by: M. Murcek   2023-08-27 12:46  

#5  ...Yevgeny is either Blackadder Dad ('As dead as a...great big dead thing.') or Oz Dead ('Not only simply merely dead, but truly most sincerely dead!').

Mike

Posted by: Mike Kozlowski   2023-08-27 12:28  

#4  Prigozhin’s death confirmed by DNA tests – Moscow
Genetic testing has identified all those listed as aboard the Wagner leader's doomed flight, the Investigative Committee has said
Posted by: Grom the Kindly   2023-08-27 11:23  

#3  ^^^ LOL, and may I pile on with Jim Morrison?
Posted by: DooDahMan   2023-08-27 10:15  

#2  Yevgeny and Elvis are meeting for lunch next week.
Posted by: ed in texas   2023-08-27 09:56  

#1  Jeeze, this is how rumors of Russian Bigfoot get started.
Posted by: Enver Slager8035   2023-08-27 09:23  

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