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| EFFBEYE at the Door: |
| 2023-09-13 |
[RedState] At a press conference on August 12th, 1986, President Ronald Reagan said, “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” I remember the media went into quite a tizzy at that quote; even then, the legacy media (which is pretty much all there was) was wholly partisan. Now, the Mises Caucus presents another example of someone being confronted by a government agent who is just there "to help."
When this citizen opened the door to find these three (two FBI agents and one county Sheriff's deputy) at his door, he should have replied with two questions: "Do you have a warrant?" "Am I being detained?" Since these three would have had to answer "no" to both of those, the next statement would be, "In that case, please vacate my property immediately, or I will have you charged with trespassing." That is where this encounter should have ended. But since that didn't happen, let's parse through the statements made by these officers. |
| Posted by:NoMoreBS |
| #9 Also recommend video taping the session. Imagine if General Flynn had done that...or Martha Stewart. |
| Posted by: Abu Uluque 2023-09-13 13:24 |
| #8 ^ So, you cooperate, and they break things anyway. Who do you complain to? |
| Posted by: M. Murcek 2023-09-13 12:33 |
| #7 A very good friend who liked to do chemical experiments in his house (he is a genious) bought a small glass chemical reactor on line. A few days later 2 FBI agents showed up and demanded he let them in to search. He asked for a warrant and was told they could go get a warrant but if they did some things might get broken during their search. Police state tactics. Constitution? They don't need no constitution. |
| Posted by: Deacon Blues 2023-09-13 11:52 |
| #6 FYI: the Mises Caucus currently runs the Libertarian Party after a complete takeover from the Gary Johnson faction at the 2022 convention. |
| Posted by: Secret Master 2023-09-13 11:20 |
| #5 They rely on you being rattled by their rep. Go the Mike Ermentraut route: "Am I under arrest? If I'm not under arrest, I'm going to close the door now..." |
| Posted by: M. Murcek 2023-09-13 10:23 |
| #4 I don't recommend saying much more than 'good morning' to these people without your legal counsel being present. Also recommend video taping the session. |
| Posted by: Besoeker 2023-09-13 09:40 |
| #3 Or, just don't open the door and tell them to fuck off through an open window. |
| Posted by: Chris 2023-09-13 09:28 |
| #2 That mindset seems to be common at all levels and functions of government. I recently received a postcard from the county assessor saying that wanted to come into my house and take pictures. And if I didn't agree they'd just make up their assessment. |
| Posted by: Mercutio 2023-09-13 09:27 |
| #1 Executive summary: Deflect them by asking "Do you have a warrant?" and "Am I being detained" |
| Posted by: Elmaper McGurque1612 2023-09-13 00:18 |