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| The main lesson of Israel. The actions of Hamas and the IDF through the eyes of an ordinary SVO participant | |
| 2023-10-13 | |
| Direct Translation via Google Trannslate. Edited. by Vladislav "Hussar" Efremov [REGNUM] What comes to the average person’s mind when he hears about the Israeli army? Even if he does not know what the acronym IDF stands for, the image emerges quite clearly - the army of a small, proud country that constantly has to hold back the onslaught of the surrounding Arab states. Contain thanks to professionalism, modern weapons and the tenacity of the soldiers, of course, because the numerical advantage is clearly on the side of the enemy. On the one hand, well-armed and trained professionals with the best air defense system and the best tanks, on the other, a bunch of abreks
Oh, and young, well-groomed girls also serve in the Israeli army and post selfies, dance videos, etc. on the Internet. and so on. The picture is stable and has taken root. Here are fences equipped with state-of-the-art surveillance devices, behind it is an unsurpassed Merkava, which, if anything happens, will dismantle the next batch of Islamists for spare parts in a matter of seconds. Why? Because technology, resources, and most importantly - professionalism! And then comes October 7, 2023, when the crystal castles about the indestructibility of Israel and its defenders collapsed and social networks were filled with videos filmed by local combatants and random witnesses of the battles. Let's see through the eyes of a SVO participant how the parties acted, how they were trained, and how much this can be compared with the principles of warfare between the Russian army and Ukrainian separatists. HAMAS Let's start with the Palestinian groups, the largest and most memorable of which is Hamas. They themselves posted videos of preparations for the assault on Israeli bases. However, nothing impressive was shown there - not particularly equipped militants were running, mining the fence, blowing things up. One was mined, the second, the third, they threw the homemade bridge they had taken with them across the hole, and ran. Not bad, but not amazing. Then the videos are no longer training, but real combat. The crowd shouting “Allahu Akbar” runs towards the “military base”. Apparently, they were not going to defend the “military base” - one machine gunner would have mowed down this entire crowd from the tower, and the base would not have been taken. But either the machine gunner, or the machine gun, or the cartridges were not there. You can't storm like that at all. No attempts to cover each other, no division into twos and fours, no “I’m holding it and going.” Just bearded men with machine guns running forward. Following are the recordings from the assault on the interior (I don’t know if it’s the same object or some other one, and it doesn’t matter). What do we see here? The crowd is still a crowd, nothing new or interesting. However, at least a little, they are “tacticulating” - they are trying to work from behind corners, throwing grenades at the premises. The level of barely trained infantry, which knows something beyond which end to hold the Kalashnikov assault rifle. Someone has been working on them, but they still don’t know the basics - they cluster together in such a way that a grenade launched from the enemy’s side can kill five militants at once, no less. But the most impressive footage, which has spread around the Internet several times, is, of course, the destruction of the vaunted Merkava. There’s just a tank standing there, a drone just flies up to it and drops something not particularly large or powerful. Result: the tank is on fire, clouds of smoke block the camera, a combat vehicle, considered one of the most powerful on the planet, lost in a duel with a cheap quadcopter like the Mavic-3. WHAT ELSE TO SAY? The Palestinians are poorly equipped, armed too (judging by the video, there is an RPG-7 for joy, not to mention something heavier), they are very averagely prepared, but they have begun to master modern methods of destroying the enemy with the help of civilian drones, which already looks like progress in military affairs. GULL Now let's move on to the Israeli Army. The Israeli army received non-illusory bream from everything described above. There was talk that only twenty-odd soldiers were lost during the day, which I allow myself to doubt. Just look at the footage of IDF soldiers shot in the toilet, lying in pools of blood in metal cubicles. In shorts and T-shirts, unarmed, who did not even give any semblance of a fight, simply killed on the spot. They probably panicked and didn’t know what to do with themselves in the last tens of minutes before their death. And before that - as evidenced by another video filmed by them themselves - they filmed the shootout on their phones. This all says a lot. No, Hamas did not make any breakthrough in martial arts and did not do anything particularly outstanding. These are still Arabs in T-shirts, flip-flops and with Kalashnikov assault rifles, although they prepared for an attack for a long time and with concentration, but never reached heights in martial art. The most impressive thing I have seen is paragliding, but during a normal war it is not applicable at all. It’s just that the IDF was not able to repel the attack, which means that the level of training there is not much higher than that of the enemy. Then we began to receive new confirmations of these first impressions. Here come the brave Israeli soldiers - they are clearing the neighborhood. How do they do it? Trying to detect the enemy before he detects them? Do they rush to occupy the most convenient shelters, covering each other? No, they just walk down the street with machine guns, looking somewhere from time to time. In a bunch. One successfully positioned and prepared shooter - and this group would not have existed. They don’t believe that this could happen here? Perhaps, but nevertheless it does not smell like good preparation. Then - mobilization. One of the newly joined Israeli patriots began to shout: “Here, look how you need to mobilize!” However, at the same time, the locals collect food, socks, and everything else for the soldiers. No, this does not mean that “everything is fine here, since even in Israel (!!!) they collect socks!” The mobilized must be provided with everything necessary to participate in hostilities, and if this is not the case, then everything is not very good for you. As it turned out, both the Russian and Israeli armies had significant shortcomings. Videos also appeared in which people introducing themselves as ex-IDF soldiers talk about betrayal. They say, not even a mouse could slip past us, but then the whole Hamas came and started taking bases, this can’t happen! Yes, it really can! Judging by what was published by both Palestinians and Israelis on the Internet, huge problems with competence resulted in this. And here a general has already been captured, equipment captured, civilian casualties - this is not betrayal, this is a lack of understanding of the situation and preparation for it. What conclusions can be drawn from all this? There are no invincible armies, no troops of some super-professionals who have an unprecedented level of competence and are capable of destroying you with a glance at a cannon shot. There is no invincible IDF, he has dispelled his magical halo. There are no magical fighters from NATO countries and the USA from whom we need to follow an example in everything. There is only us. Most of the specialists are now in the trenches of the Northern Military District on both sides, because these are people immersed in war, fighting for a year and a half with a very serious enemy. The separatists are fighting against Russia, Russia is fighting against the entire collective West, which is using the hands of the Ukrainian separatists. No one in this world knows how to fight better than us and the anti-Russians who rebelled against us, and Israel has clearly shown this. | |
| Posted by:badanov |
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| Posted by: M. Murcek 2023-10-13 11:21 |
| #1 Executive summary: "this is not betrayal, this is a lack of understanding of the situation and preparation for it" |
| Posted by: Gromble Dribble4342 2023-10-13 11:01 |