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Man shoots 'aggressive' NYC subway rider in the head after taking gun off him during fight - as terrified commuters duck for cover and run off train
2024-03-15
Fortune favours the bold.
[Daily Mail, where America gets its news] New York City commuters scrambled for cover after an 'aggressive' rider was shot in the head on a subway train during rush hour on Thursday.
How sane was the aggressor?
The shooting occurred on a northbound A train in Brooklyn shortly after 4.45 pm, when a verbal dispute between two strangers escalated into a fight.

A 32-year-old man boarded the train at the Nostrand Avenue stop and was approached by a 36-year-old man who appeared to be 'aggressive and provocative,' according to witnesses.

As the train started moving, the 36-year-old flashed a sharp object believed to be a knife or a razor blade, Michael Kemper, the Police Department's Chief of Transit, said at a news conference.

At one point, he pulled out a gun from his jacket, walking toward the 32-year-old as the verbal dispute escalated into a physical fight.

The shooting on the nation's busiest transit system occurred less than a week after New York Governor Kathy Hochul stationed 750 national guard members in a bid to clamp down on the rampant violence on subway.

Social media users shared a clip of the fight that led up to the shooting, as the 36-year-old, wearing a black hoodie, can be seen punching the other guy multiple times. The 36-year-old also landed a punch on a woman, who appeared to have stabbed him in the back multiple times as he shouted repeatedly, 'you stabbed me?'

Blood visibly seeped through the black hooded man's shirt as the two men grappled, with the 36-year-old man ultimately sitting atop the 32-year-old. At one point, the hooded guy took off his jacket, revealing the weapon, and proceeded to load it.

Passengers can be heard shouting desperately, 'get me out, get me out,' before the car doors were opened.

The video did not capture the moment when the 32-year-old grabbed the firearm from the aggressive attacker, but multiple shots can be heard in the background.

The train pulled into the Hoyt–Schermerhorn Streets station, where law enforcement authorities who heard the gunshots flooded the scene. The 32-year-old shooter was arrested before he stepped onto the platform and remained in custody.

The 36-year-old man was rushed to New York-Presbyterian Brooklyn Methodist Hospital, where he was undergoing surgery and remained in critical condition.

Chief Kemper said that authorities have not yet determined whether the alleged shooter's actions would be considered self-defense. No charges have been brought against him as of Thursday evening.

Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) chairman Janno Lieber said, 'The victim here, as the chief said, appears to be the aggressor.'
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Posted by:Skidmark

#16  Bless you for learning, Shoth Gratch3103, and in your corner of the world making it safer for all of us.
Posted by: trailing wife   2024-03-15 21:43  

#15  My school days were full of bullies. So I took judo at the local YMCA whose instructor was a vet that ended up in an actual altercation with a Vietcon regular in the jungle who was armed with a knife. He got cuts on the arm (he showed us the cuts) but he eliminated his opponent. It really gave authenticity to the need to know martial arts. And indeed it came in handy a couple of times, surprising the school bullies. In a non-military confrontation (street warfare) his first advice to us was to avoid confrontation, even if you have to run away. You can't win against a gun or a knife. But he did a super great job of training us on how to overcome both as well wining at hand to hand, even against large opponents.
Posted by: Shoth Gratch3103   2024-03-15 20:52  

#14  About the white girl, as of two days ago:

Family provides update on girl critically injured in fight near Missouri high school

"We will not know the extent of the brain damage that has occurred until [Kaylee Gain, 16] wakes up," one of the GoFundMe pages set up to help the family said.

The department said on Saturday, a 15-year-old suspect was arrested and is currently being held by St. Louis County Family Court on assault charges. The identity of the suspect will not be disclosed because they are a minor.

John O'Sullivan with the St. Louis County Courts said it is too soon to know if the suspect will be charged as an adult. There will be a court hearing in the next few weeks.
Posted by: trailing wife   2024-03-15 18:12  

#13  Hollywood needs to come up with a new action film called "The Subway Rider".
Posted by: Angealing B. Hayes4677   2024-03-15 17:58  

#12  ..."White privilege? What about black privilege, or the latitude to be a violent thug and an absolute menace and escape any punitive consequences. Both videos illustrate the reality that there is a feral subculture that is directly linked to the leftist philosophy, and it is flourishing; I say subculture because of course this does not apply to all blacks. Did blacks act like this when living under the blessings of a civilized and conservative society? Hardly—Thomas Sowell has a lot to say on the thriving state of the black community prior to the Great Society and anti-poverty programs of 20th century Democrats.

Perhaps we ought to revist the musings of Michael Savage and Scott Adams.."

Am. Thinker: White girl beaten (to death?) by black classmate—school district offers ‘condolences’ to all involved while Big Media ignores
Posted by: NoMoreBS   2024-03-15 15:59  

#11  Black vs NY Rican in this instance
Posted by: Ulailet Thud3602   2024-03-15 13:00  

#10  Obviously, if the 32 year old was black, and the 36 year old was white, it was self defense. If the races are reversed, it was not.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia   2024-03-15 12:17  

#9  Link
Posted by: M. Murcek    2024-03-15 10:50  

#8  Doing this on a phone sux...
Posted by: M. Murcek    2024-03-15 10:49  

#7  The link from above
Posted by: M. Murcek    2024-03-15 10:49  

#6  Soros DA sponsored Orange County jig bringing his bad behavior to my town - https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/juvenille-arrested-at-new-smyrna-beach-following-incident-with-gun-deputies
Posted by: M. Murcek    2024-03-15 10:47  

#5   authorities have not yet determined whether the alleged shooter's actions would be considered self-defense.

It all depends on the race of the participants. I bet the shooter gets some sort of illegal discharge of unlicensed weapon or at least disorderly conduct on a train.

I don't have much experience criming, but as a general rule, if you get shot with your own gun, you are doing it wrong.
Posted by: SteveS   2024-03-15 10:33  

#4  Urban dwellers are morons.
Posted by: M. Murcek    2024-03-15 10:10  

#3  All the passengers have the look of waist gunners on the flak run during their 30th mission.
Posted by: swksvolFF   2024-03-15 10:06  

#2  NYPD hunts woman who fled subway shooting after 'stabbing' gun-wielding attacker - as new video shows him lying on train after being shot with his OWN GUN
Posted by: Skidmark   2024-03-15 09:14  

#1  Unrelated, after a fashion...

New Yorkers rail on losing battle against crime after Gov. Hochul dispatches National Guard
Posted by: Skidmark   2024-03-15 07:25  

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