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man.. my nose is cold, and i just cant think of a better way to warm it up right now.
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I see I missed out on a heaping helping of prime troll flesh yesterday evening. This fills me with rage and regret.
Is there another influx on the way, to be cornered, slaughtered, and devoured as only Rantburgers can? Please, pleeease!
How can we bring them in? I have it!
Post pictures of dumpy hippy chicks in Che sweat-shirts, preferably showing a little hairy ankle in the process. That drives the amateur goebbelists insane with desire.
Bring on the trolls! Let us slake our thirst on their anemic blood and feast on their gamy buttocks!
More trolls!
#8
the 50s Sabrina has apparently inspired an Argentinian woman, whose uses her given name, to get mammoth amounts of cosmetic surgery to achieve an otherwise utterly impossible hourglass figure.
#9
Take it easy, AC. They're prolly too busy getting their butts kicked right now and the sight of Sabrina would fry their little goat buggering eyeballs.
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Her undergarments were the product of some of Britains finest engineering. Now that task has been outsourced to Pakistan.
London - British forces have taken four key Taliban positions during an 18-day offensive in southern Afghanistan's Helmand province in which 100 Taliban fighters and five British soldiers were killed, the London Defence Ministry announced Sunday. The ministry said the action began already on December 7 and involved some 1,500 British troops plus Danish and Estonian soldiers of the NATO-led International Security and Assistance Force (ISAF) plus Afghan government forces.
The aim of the offensive, which was concentrated around the town of Nad-e-Ali, was to improve security in the provincial capital of Lashkar Gah, a ministry spokesman said.
The hardline Islamist Al-Shabaab movement on Sunday warned of clashes between insurgent fighters in Somalia and reiterated their resolve to continue fighting the Ethiopian troops which are withdrawing. "We tell the Mujahideen (fighters), all of them, not to turn their guns against each other but rather to direct it at the enemy forces in our country," said Sheik Muqtar Robow, spokesman for Al-Shabaab, in a press briefing held in the southern Bay region.
Robow vowed that his forces would continue attacking the Ethiopian troops, who began withdrawing from Mogadishu on Friday. He pledged that the fighting would not stop even after the Ethiopian troops' withdrawal is completed. "As long as there are crusader forces, be they from Africa, IGAD or the UN, or forces of the apostate government, the Jihad (holy war) would go on," he said.
The spokesman played downed the taking over of some police stations in Mogadishu by a rival Islamist group as "a distraction".
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Is the Ethiopian military still good. A book I read about Pork Chop Hill indicated that at the time they were capable fighters especially at night before night vision devices were prevalent.
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MOGADISHU, Somalia Ethiopian troops moved out of a border town on Saturday, a day after soldiers began a pullout from the war-ravaged capital of Mogadishu.
It remains unclear whether the Ethiopian troops who have been shoring up the countrys weak transitional government will leave the country, or whether some will redeploy in other parts of Somalia. Western diplomats have estimated that Ethiopia has had thousands of troops in the country.
The town that the soldiers left on Saturday, Balanbale, is in a region where Islamist militias have been fighting one another. Many here worry that an Ethiopian pullout will leave a power vacuum that Islamist factions will battle one another to fill. Those fears were exacerbated on Friday when an Islamist group took over three empty police stations here.
That faction, the Union of Islamic Courts, signed a cease-fire with the government in 2006 and is not allied with the Shabab, one of Somalias most militant Islamic groups. The Shabab controls much of southern Somalia.
Sheik Abdirahim Isse Addow, the spokesman for the faction, said his group had decided to move into the police stations to ensure the security of the people. He added, This is not a challenge against other Islamists.
No, no, course not, heaven forfend ...
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(AKI ) - A Turkish court on Friday sentenced an alleged Kurdish separatist to nine consecutive life terms in solitary confinement for a car bomb attack that killed seven people last year. Local media said Erdal Polat, who was 23 at the time of the attack, faced charges of attempting to ruin the unity and integrity of the state, murder and helping the outlawed separatist Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK).
According to Turkish media, Polat was accused of preparing and detonating a car bomb, with 40 kilogrammes of explosives, near a bus carrying Turkish soldiers. The explosion, which also occurred near a university building, killed seven people -- including six high school students -- and injured 68 others.
Polat confessed to being a member of the PKK and obtaining the car used in the bombing, but denied detonating the vehicle.
The court sentenced five other people to six years and three months in jail each for helping Polat and for membership of the PKK. Six defendants were acquitted.
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Inn India being sentnced to nine life terms is far worse than in Turkey. :-)
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#1 Inn India being sentnced to nine life terms is far worse than in Turkey. :-)
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Being sentenced to more than 20 years is the same as a death sentence in Turkey, JFM. Turkish prisoners don't like the PKK any more than the rest of the country does. "Solitary" means a cramped, 4x6x6 cell, a squat hole in the corner, and being fed twice a day. The Turks have one of the most inhumane prison systems in the world.
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In India, you serve until you die then you reincarnate serve another term and so on. :-)
A senior Taliban leader was arrested from Peshawar on Saturday. A senior policeman confirmed Ustad Yasir was arrested, but declined to give details. The arrest was made by an intelligence agency at around 9am, the sources said. Formerly a leader of Abdurrab Rasool Sayyaf's Ittehad-e-Islami group in Afghanistan, Yasir joined the Taliban in 2001 after Sayyaf announced support for Afghan President Hamid Karzai. He was arrested from the NWFP in 2005 and released from Kabul's Pul-e-Charkhi prison in exchange for kidnapped Italian journalist Daniele Mastrogiacomo.
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Eight bodies were recovered from different parts of Swat district on Saturday. According to a private TV channel, three bodies were found from Green Chowk while two bodies were found from Ode Gram area of the district. Three more bodies were found from a house in Shakardara area of Matta tehsil. According to the channel, the killings were part of a series of targeted killings in the valley. Separately, Taliban killed Traders Association President Jameel Khan in Barikot.
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Thirteen people were arrested and several houses were demolished in the ongoing 'Operation Daraghlam (Arriving)' in Jamrud tehsil of Khyber Agency on Saturday, officials said.
Officials of the political administration told Daily Times that the security forces demolished five shops selling drugs in Wazir Dhand area of Jamrud and five houses of those harbouring Taliban were razed to the ground in Mian Marcha Kilay of the tehsil. The security forces also arrested four people from the area, while three were arrested from Ghundai and six from Godar for sheltering Taliban.
Earlier, the political administration had issued notices to 10 tribesmen asking them to surrender, warning that their houses would be demolished under the Frontier Crimes Regulations, a source said.
Curfew: The Pak-Afghan main highway was reopened from 11am to 4pm on Saturday, as troops relaxed the curfew for the general public and trucks carrying NATO supplies, Landikotal Tehsildar Nasir Khan told Daily Times. He said the Torkham border crossing would be closed from the Afghan side until the objectives of the operations were met.
The troops moved forward into Malagori for taking action against the Taliban and their local facilitators. Khyber Agency Public Administrator Tariq Hayat Khan had categorically told the media that no action would be taken against Malagori tribe as they had complied with the government's advice in forming a tribal Lashkar against the suspected Taliban.
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A FEMALE suicide bomber has killed 35 civilians, including women and children, and wounded 65 others during a religious procession near the Kadhimiyah shrine in northern Baghdad.
Iraqi government officials said the explosion occurred close to one of the gates of the shrine at about 11am (1900 AEDT) today, killing 35 people and wounding 65 others.
The bomber targeted people participating in a ritual procession related to the Ashura ceremonies that climax on January 7.
The festival mourns the killing of Imam Hussein by armies of the Sunni caliph Yazid in the year 680.
It is characterised by processions of wailing men beating their chests and engaged in devotional self-flagellation.
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Ashura is a Shiite commemoration, Regular Joe. The Sunnis believe it's blasphemy (after all, they were the victors in that particular attrocity). As for "lowest of the low", I think that can be said of about 80% of Islam.
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It's just another variation of blood for gawd. Abe was gonna do it but got a pass.... it's a an olde, olde, olde meme. Yes. I mean that too.
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.5MT, I think ya got sumptin there. Gawd ALWAYS demands Blood. Makes me wonder. Yehosheua (Jesus) gave his own Blood so we don't have to. Interesting.
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It seems like America has a better solution for what to do with mentally unstable women - we give them their own show on the E channel. .... I guess I should include The View.
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Aswat al-Iraq: A policeman was killed on Saturday when his patrol came under gunmen fire in central Mosul, said a security source from Ninewa. "The incident took place at Ras al-Qor area in central Mosul," the source told Aswat al-Iraq news agency.
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Aswat al-Iraq: Thirty rockets of different kinds were seized south of the city of al-Nassiriya on Saturday, the Thi-Qar province police chief said.
"A force from the Criminal Investigations Office in Thi-Qar province seized 30 rockets in Souk al-Sheikh district, south of Nassiriya," Maj. General Mohsen al-Fatlawi told Aswat al-Iraq news agency. "The rockets are from different origins," Fatlawi said, not elaborating on these "origins".
He said that these rockets were seized thanks to tip-offs from a local resident, noting the bomb squad was summoned to remove them.
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That's good.
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It could be the Iranians are starting to stockpile this stuff up in anticipation of our leaving. Glad to see the Iraqi common folk don't want anything to do with this.
Aswat al-Iraq: Police on Saturday found a member of the Kurdistan Communist Party killed inside his house in northern Kirkuk, the province's police chief said. Kurdistan has a RAB?
"The police found Mohieddin Rassoul killed inside his home in Sirkareez neighborhood, al-Shurja area, northern Kirkuk," Col. Bistoun Mohammed Qassabi told Aswat al-Iraq, adding the body showed signs of having been shot and bruised in the head.
"The incident, the second of its kind since last December, is currently being investigated," Qassabi said, not giving more details.
On December 18, 2008, a woman member of the Kurdistan Communist Party's Women's League was found dead inside her home in al-Qadissiya neighborhood, southern Kirkuk, according to Brig. Sarhad Qader, the chief of the Kirkuk Districts' Police Department.
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One week they're blowing up anti-Joo protesters, the next they're killin Commies. That place is turning out better than even Texas.
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:)
Likin that... got guns too and oilz.
Longhorns?
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Longhorns would have a hard time surviving in northern Iraq, HMT. Better than most other cattle, but it would still be a hard go for them. IIRC, the Kurds also allow open carry of weapons - in fact, you're considered a wimp if you don't have at least an AK-47.
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On Sunday morning, Israeli troops moved to bisect the strip, cutting off the north - including Gaza City - from the rest of Gaza. According to Palestinian reports, the split runs from the Karni crossing on the Israel border in central Gaza to the sea
#4
time to apply some IDF bleach to each part in sequence. Nowhere to run, few places to hide. Look for tall hairier-than-usual-moustachio'd burqa-wearers
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2:30 PM IDF ups their psychological warfare on Gaza -- takes over Gaza TV broadcasts and keeps repeating over and over: "Gaza, Your Time is Running Out" (Walla News, Hebrew)
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5:28 PM Hamas top terrorists hiding out in basement of Gaza's Shifa hospital. (Muqata reported last week of reports that the largest stockpile in Gaza of Katyusha and Grad missiles was also in the same basement) [Channel 1 Israel TV]
Light off that arsenal all at once at it MIGHT qualify as a massive bomb. And it would blow up a hospital, a clear Israeli war crime (sad, but that IS how it would be portrayed.)
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Israel needs to get a propaganda campaign going to show these arms and ammo dumps in civilian places like hospitals. That is just as an important part of the campaign as kinetic warfare. Discredit Hamas on the airwaves. Sure the libs will go lalalalala. But keep chipping away at it.
And you are right, OS about the Litani in Lebanon. IIRC, the plan was to have amphibious landings at the mouth of the Litani River and encircle south Lebanon from the west and east, and clean out the pocket. But Olmert blew it and did not allow it. Not destroying Hizb'Allah was a huge mistake on Olmert's part. Not being crushed was a victory for Hizb'Allah.
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Israel is an illegitimate entity. We need to arm Syria and Iran with Nukes immediately. Send in a couple of thousands of SSG commands and from Lebanon side reinforce Hezbollah to 'correct' the error.... that is Israel
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BigJim: I'm from planet Earth. I'd prefer to see Israel disappear and be wiped off the face of the earth. Nukes would be good. Exploding right over Tel Aviv and other cities. Cool eh!
#23
TS6893, how would you like to see nukes over Makah, Riyadh, Tehran, Damascus, ...?
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"Other than my duty to go to a far away land to bang my head for a space rock and throw stones at a golum, I could care less because they think themselves more pure than I. Also, unlike a dog, I have not and refuse to learn to not play with porcupines. Hey, is that a woman buying suggestive produce without 2 male family escorts? Kill her! Is that a John Lennon song I hear - I blow your shop up!"
#25
I am not pure. I never have been and never will bve. No human is now or will ever be Pure. We are Mortal beings living in an Imperfect world. Living according to the "Law", whether Isalmic, Jewish, or Chirstian, won't make us Pure. The only "Out" we have is to confess before God our "Impurity" and ask God's forgiveness. What we have in our core being is what matters.
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Its still way too early too judge, but it LOOKS like the diff between this and Op Shalom LeGalil is far superior intelligence. With good intel you can maximize the payoff from air strikes relative to collateral damage, which they seem to have done so far. Hopefully that will also leverage the ground ops - use ground forces to take out High Value individuals and key rocket sites, and key tunnel/bunker positions WITHOUT having to go door to door through all of Gaza city or the refugee camps.
My impression is that such intell was simply not available during the Lebanon campaign, which was not nearly as well prepared.
I wonder, how much intell the IDF is getting from Fatah people on the ground.
Abbas HAS to condemn the attacks, to appeal to fence sitters in the West Bank, even though most reports are that he wants to see as much damage to Hamas as possible. IF Hamas is completely destroyed, (big if) its possible he will go back into Gaza with Egyptian support. My guess is that Fatah is providing intell at least, to the IDF.
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They were putting Fatah guys under "house arrest", but they seem to have figured out that they don't have the manpower for that. So Fatah gets it in the neck.
#30
they're Paleos, Mojo...so they shoot a little lower. Think ventilated footwear
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Hamas is shooting Fatah members for a reason
AFAIK Hamas has been shooting Fatah members (and vice versa) for a very very long while, at a scale of violence that would be suprising to us if generally known.
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Hamas managed to fire off over 50 rockets today. No doubt Hamas was hoping for 200+ on the day after a ground invasion so that's OK as far as it goes. If the number of Hamas rockets starts to go down each day or if the number of rockets is all mortars and no Grads, that will be a very good sign.
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So, has Olmert redeemed himself, yet? Are we seeing the real Olmert now and Lebanon was just a deviation? Or is he just doing what he has to to win the election in Feb. So far, this looks like a war being run by Israeli generals, very competently. Lebanon was run by politicans to disappointing results.
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he's not running in Febuary elections. His party is, though
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I prefer the beginning of Psalm 144
Blessed be the LORD, my) rock,
who trains my hands for war,
and my fingers for battle;
He is my steadfast love and my fortress,
my stronghold and my deliverer,
my shield and he in whom I take refuge,
who subdues peoples under me.
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I miss TGA too, NS. (No offense intended to you, EC - we're grateful you're here to give us the continental perspective, along with our French posters.)
I know why he said he had to sign off from here, but given his age, I wish he would post just once more to let us know he's OK.
Same for .com, except the age part.
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At a certain unspoken level, we understand that the Huntington thesis is right and the Rice view is wishful thinking. After all, when President Sarkozy and other European critics bemoan Israels disproportionate response, what really are they saying? That they expect better from the despised Jews than from Hamas. That they regard Israel as a western society bound by civilized norms, whereas any old barbarism issuing forth from Gaza is to be excused on grounds of desperation. Hence, this slightly surreal headline from The New York Times: Israel Rejects Cease-Fire, But Offers Gaza Aid. For whatever thats worth. Wafa Samir Ibrahim al-Biss, a young Palestinian woman who received considerate and exemplary treatment at an Israeli hospital in Beersheva, returned to that same hospital packed with explosives in order to blow herself up and kill the doctors and nurses who restored her to health. Well, what do you expect? Its desperation born of poverty and occupation.
If it was, it would be easy to fix. But what if its not? What if its about something more primal than land borders and economic aid?
A couple of days after Hamas voted to restore crucifixion to the Holy Land, their patron in Teheran (and their primary source of aid) put in an appearance on British TV. As multicultural balance to Her Majesty The Queens traditional Christmas message, the TV network Channel 4 invited President Ahmadinejad to give an alternative Yuletide address on the grounds that it was a valuable public service to let viewers hear him speak for himself, which people in the west dont often get the chance to see. In fact, as Caroline Glick pointed out in The Jerusalem Post, the great man speaks for himself all the time when hes at the UN, calling on all countries to submit to Islam; when hes presiding over his international conference of Holocaust deniers; when hes calling for Israel to be wiped off the map or (in his more moderate moments) relocated to a couple of provinces of Germany and Austria. Caroline Glick forbore to mention that, according to President Ahmadinejads chief adviser Hassan Abbassi, his geopolitical strategy is based on the premise that Britain is the mother of all evils the evils being America, Australia, Israel, the Gulf states, Canada, and New Zealand, all of which are the malign progeny of the British Empire. We have established a department that will take care of England, said Mr. Abbassi in 2005. Englands demise is on our agenda.
So when Channel 4 says that we dont get the chance to see these fellows speak for themselves, it would be more accurate to say that they speak for themselves incessantly but the louder they speak the more we put our hands over our ears and go Nya nya, cant hear you. We do this in part because, if youre as invested as most western elites are in the idea that all anyone wants is to go to university, get a steady job and settle down in a nice house in the suburbs, a statement such as Englands demise is on our agenda becomes almost literally untranslatable. When President Ahmadinejad threatens to wipe Israel off the face of the map, we deplore him as a genocidal fantasist. But maybe hes a genocidal realist look at the threads linking North Korea to Iran and to Irans clients in Syria, Lebanon, and Gaza and were the fantasists.
The civilizational clashes of Professor Huntingtons book are not inevitable. Culture is not immutable. But changing culture is tough and thankless and something the west no longer has the stomach for. Unfortunately, the Saudis do, and so do the Iranians. And not just in Gaza but elsewhere the trend is away from moderation and toward something fiercer and ever more implacable.
To be fair to President Ahmadinejads hosts at Channel 4, the department that will take care of England probably doesnt get the lions share of the funding in Teheran. On the other hand, when Hashemi Rafsanjani describes the Zionist Entity as the most hideous occurrence in history which the Muslim world will vomit out from its midst with a single atomic bomb, that sounds rather more specific, if not teetering alarmingly on the disproportionate. Unlike its international critics in North America and Europe, Israel has no margin for error.
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It's not a clash of civilizations but of ideologies. If Iran could get rid of the mullahs you'd see this country back on the side of civilization very soon.
Arabs once had a civilization that rivaled and maybe even surpassed European civilization between the 8th and the 11th century.
Think Cordoba under the rule of Caliph Abd ar Rahman III.
Then came fanatic tribesmen from Morocco who destroyed all that. But even they took on refined manners after a century.
The lethal combination is tribal barbary mixed with religious fanatism... this makes Pakistan a hopeless case for now.
The Palestinian case is not hopeless if they can get rid of fanatism and foreign meddling (Iran, Saudi etc).
The Arab World isn't that united against Israel anymore. When their oil runs out Israel will still be there, with all its smart, educated, hard working people.
The next 20 years will be hard and dangerous for Israel. Then we'll see.
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to all of you bastards pro iszrael
iszrael will be nucked and all of you litle jew scum gonna roasted again
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I'm almost inclined to agree with EC. In the medium term, I think he's right. My concern being the long term. (century or more) Israel can't expect to be the regions major economy for infinity. At some point its economic and military advantage could very well not exist and at that point, its all in how well the region has moderated.
My view basically boils down to this: If the WoT is a success, then Israel will be able to exist peacefully alongside its neighbors even if someday it isn't the regions Heavy. If it can't, the west didn't win the WoT
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"nucked"?
Is that a combination of the words "nip" and "tucked"?
Israel's gonna have plastic surgery? Whatever for? Most of their people are good-looking already.
Maybe it's Gaza that needs to be "nucked"? (They've got some pretty ugly people there.)
Of course, not even the best plastic surgeons can fix the ugliness of the Gazans.
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Yet another in a long line of examples of why Iran can't have the bomb.
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Nice analyses and news at the Jerusalem Post. They agree with European Conservative's analysis. Not about Pakistan, though. ;-)
The amusing thing is, Pakistan's opinion on the Gaza war is about as important and the indignation of trailing daughter #2's Hebrew school class with regard to the situation in Darfur. Which is to say, worth absolutely nothing. I'm so sorry to be the one to inform you of that, nuke iszrahell.
#56
He makes a few good points although I think he confuses Colombia with Venezuela (lefty Chavez is the one who hates Israel).
It boils down to this. Ask anyone in any street in the world, Muslim or not (and without any interference of other persons, minders and in absolute anonymity and safety) this question:
Where would you prefer to live:
a) in a democratic (albeit somewhat chaotic) country that doesn't infringe on your religious life, lets you party in nightclubs on the beach with gorgeous bikini babes, where you can freely say what you want, drink what you prefer, wear what you fancy, work what you like and travel the way you want to?
OR
b) in a country ruled by religious extremists, with invisible women clad in black sackcloth, where you get shot or tortured for saying your opinion or refusing to have your kid strapped to suicide belts, where your life will be regulated down to the smallest details?
And THEN ask
Why would you not support the country of your preference?
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#52 EC - Word.
Ugly goes to the bone - particularly in Gaza.
BTW, showing that picture of the mummy Helen Thomas without warning should be is considered a war crime. ;-p
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Oops sorry I didn't scroll that much down.
She'd qualify for a compulsory burka
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Israel's government has approved the call-up of tens of thousands of reservist soldiers, it was annnounced Saturday, almost simultaneously with the launch of a Gaza ground incursion aimed at halting rocket fire on Israel's southern communities.
Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's office said in a statement that, in accordance with a secret cabinet discussion Friday, the government ordered the armed forces "to draft the necessary reservists, on a scale of tens of thousands of troops."
The Gaza ground operation launched Saturday had actually been approved last week, but Olmert promised his ministers that when the time came to begin the offensive, it would first be brought for fresh approval by the security cabinet. On Thursday night, Olmert, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and Defense Minister Ehud Barak held a meeting that lasted until 4 A.M., during which it was decided that that time had come.
On Friday afternoon, at around 2 P.M., the security cabinet convened at Olmert's office at the Defense Ministry building in Tel Aviv. The meeting was held in utmost secrecy, and the military censor even banned reports that the discussion had taken place.
As the cabinet debate dragged on, the two ministers from the ultra-Orthodox Shas party said that they would stay at the meeting despite the imminent onset of the Sabbath, as the discussion constituted "pikuah nefesh" (the saving of human life which allows Jews to break religious laws). Olmert told the two to go home, but to each leave a note with their votes on the issue of a ground operation.
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Run for the hills.. IDF Reservists.. Israel's Dick Fags are coming out in thousands..
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"Dick Fags are coming out in thousands.."
Really? Much like the Hamas operatives in fluffy bunny suits? Tender kittens for the brave warriors? Like that?
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Be careful out thar Manayka, them reservest d00ds getting ready to go all pikuah nefesh on yor buddies. Also personal favor (it's a hobby of mine) can you favor us with a picture of yor bridge? B&W okay if it's original, high rez color preferred.
At least 30 Hamas gunmen were reported killed as IDF troops swept into the northern Gaza Strip on Saturday night, encountering fierce resistance from Hamas forces entrenched in fortifications just over the border. The sources said that a majority of the rockets fired into Beersheba and Ashdod were launched from the northern Gaza Strip.
One of the major aims of the operation was also to deliver a serious blow to the Hamas military wing, which the IDF estimated had not been severely weakened under the air campaign.
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Hmmm...so the why the 'ell are them pesky rockets still raining on them beersheeba bitches and ashdod asswipes?
#4
Yawtad may be sarcastic but it will be crucial to see if the rocket fire is suppressed over the next few days (its been about 30-60 per day since the operation cast lead began) or whether Hamas can increase it to 200+ a day which was the initial thought on what the Hamas plan was.
#5
IDF estimates Hamas has enough rockets for 60-90 days of attacks. That's prior to any recent attrition or use, of course.
Some attacks will continue while the IDF degrades the Hamas leadership and infrastructure. Keep your eye on the larger goal here and don't buy the Hamas claim that their occasional tactical attacks mean they're winning or undefeatable.
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IDF estimates Hamas has enough rockets for 60-90 days of attacks
Offensive action should not be based on Hamas rocket inventories or the terminatin of rocket launches. As they run out they'll be placing orders for more from Iran and China. Rockets don't kill people, people Hamas kills people. Take out the shooters.
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Sure. And while you're doing that, interdict the resupply lines (as the Israelis are doing) and make it VERY clear that this sort of response will occur every time Hamas rearms until the organization is destroyed or gives up its intent to destroy Israel.
It doesn't look like you have to be a rocket scientist to be able to shoot Hamas rockets, so the number of potential shooters could be very large. I suspect money men and logisticians are the most vulnerable points.
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And big changes in money flow or transport patterns - forced by tunnel closings and inventory depletion - might be easier to spot than the incremental changes driven by small attacks.
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I've been surprised by the coverage of this event. Fox news had a bubblehead yesterday who set up the following meme in the Fox manner of distributing propaganda in the form of a question:
Do you think that ...?
...if there is ever another rocket shot into Gaza that this will be seen as a victory for Hamas?
...this is a clever plot by the Palestinians to "lure" the Israelis onto their own turf so that they could possibly kidnap soldiers or have a car swarm and thus win the war of popular opinion?
...it is possible for Israel to call this a victory if anything, anything at all, goes wrong for the Israeli army?
...if any Palestinian civilians are harmed that it will unite the world against Israel?
Heck, I've forgotten the other things she said - but I do remember her calling something "pure brilliant genius" on the part of the Palestinians.
I think Israel should stop trying to engage in this type of "friendly" question and answer propaganda and simply put out a statement to the effect that no nation would be willing to tolerate a neighbor shooting rockets into their kindergartens on a daily basis and that if Hamas continues to shoot rockets, they will continue to step up their efforts to make them stop.
You can't win by allowing your enemies to frame the questions like this: Bob, your wife slept with everyone in your office. Do you think that by divorcing her it will reflect badly on your sexual ability? We are just trying to be fair and balanced here.
there is a story that when Hitler moved his command center to Berlin in 45 one of the military types said, "this will be most convenient; we will be able to travel to both the west front and the east front by streetcar"
Ma'an -- Palestinian fighters detonated a 50 kilogram bomb as Israeli forces crossed into the Gaza Strip, a spokesperson of one of the key armed Palestinian armed groups said on Saturday evening.
'Massive': I don't think that means what you think it means.
Abu Mujahid, the spokesman of the An-Nasser Salah Ad-Din Brigades, the armed wing of the Popular Resistance Committees, told Al-Jazeera television that their forces had set off the massive explosion in an area called Hayeh Zaytoun. It was not clear if anyone was injured.
He also said that his group is coordinating the defense of the Gaza Strip with all other armed factions, including the Al-Aqsa Brigades, an armed group loyal to Fatah, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Hamas, and others. He said the fighters' confidence is "soaring," and that the armed factions are weighing "all options" in their defense of Gaza.
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Yawn. Lemme know when you get a 50 kiloton bomb.
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Its a step up from toilet bowl cleaner and aluminum foil in a Pepsi bottle.
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the armed factions are weighing "all options" in their defense of Gaza.
Option 1: Run away
Option 2: Hide under the bed
Option 3: Die
I prefer that they all are given option 3.
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Allow me to translate: He said the fighters' confidence is "soaring,"
"We are sooo *bleep*ed. The Perfidious Juice are whacking us at will."
the armed factions are weighing "all options" in their defense of Gaza.
"If we hide, they kill us. If we come out and fight, they kill us. Even if we hide beneath the skirts of our women, they kill us. If those wretched Egyptians would only open the border, we could do a quick exit stage left."
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That and the ability to hold two opposing concepts at the same time. For example: "We're dying like flies!" and "We're so inspiring as fighters - the muslim world is racing here to support us!"
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Rambler, you left out the best of all: being blown to teeny-tiny bits by the secondary explosions while moving Grad rockets from a mosque to a pick-up.
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Geography question: is Hayeh Zaytoun anywhere close to where the Israeli troops were at the time of the explosion? Second question, triggered by the first: was the detonation deliberate or accidental? And third question: is the choice of a 50 kg bomb a signal of compensation?
Ma'an -- Fighters affiliated to the leftist Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) claimed to be exchanging fire with invading Israeli forces east of Gaza City after midnight on Sunday morning.
In two statements faxed to Ma'an, the PFLP's armed wing, the Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades, said they fired missiles and seven 60-milimeter mortars at Israeli forces inside the Gaza Strip. They claimed Israeli soldiers had been wounded in the clashes.
Earlier, Al-Jazeera television reported that Israeli forces had entered the Strip near the Karni border crossing, in the vicinity of where the PFLP claims these clashes took place.
They also claimed to have launched homemade rockets at the Western Negev desert, and the city of Askhelon, north of Gaza. They said that a thirt rocket fired at the town of Netivot had been acknowleged by the Israelis.
"We will get out from underneath the rubble and fight until the last breath," said the Brigades.
"We are, the Abu Ali Mustafa Brigades along with all other groups, confirm our complete readiness to confront this ground invasion with all we've got, including our rifles, missiles and our bodies."
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Could the israhail-hitler fags get the paleo factions straight? Is it hummus or pee-flippin' whatever that kicked 30 of their talmud-filled IDF asses back to beersheeba?
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"Could the israhail-hitler fags get the paleo factions straight? Is it hummus or pee-flippin' whatever that kicked 30 of their talmud-filled IDF asses back to beersheeba?"
Does it really matter, Yawlud, whether it's Fred or Barney or Wilma or Betty? You must be so very proud.
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Don't get too worked up there, "Yawlad Metnaka", you'll blow a gasket and bleed to death before anybody can find you in your mother's basement.
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Could the israhail-hitler fags get the paleo factions straight?
How can anyone keep them straigt? You've got the Judean People's Liberation Front, the Liberation Front of the People of Judea and 65,535 more, each with their own political wing, military wing and wing-ding. And not one of them speaks for The Palestinians(tm) as a whole. It is a major obstacle to peace in the Middle East (the other being the whole Death to Juice thingie). Sure, you can make a truce with HamAss, but the Armed Wing of the Gaza Librarians and Clerical Workers Union will fight on to the death. There simply is no political entity as The Palestinians, just a bunch of rabid tribes bent on killing their neighbors and each other. Anyone for a nice game of HamAss vs Fatah?
#7
what's really interesting is how Abbas is (mostly) keeping FATAH out of this. He's betting on and possibly aiding an Israeli victory over HAMAS. That way he's Top Dawg again. But the word "Victory" doesn't seem to be in the MSM vocabulary, being replaced with "Cease Fire" and "Negotiated Peace". Dickweeds, All.
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Adherents to a death cult, they are trapped in hell so they think the only way out is to die. There is another way but I'm afraid they'll never find it. Here's a clue, Yawlad: love your enemy. Yeah, that's right. Hard for you to grasp that concept? Thought so. That means your gonna live in hell until you die. Oh, and those 72 virgins? They all have mustaches, they all weigh over 300 pounds and they're all covered with warts.
What? You think the Juice want to kill you? You flatter yourselves. They have better things to do. They have jobs and families. They want peace and prosperity just like everybody else in this world except you muzzies. They only attack your squalid little hell hole because you leave them no choice. I'm sure the stench alone is enough to make them want to leave it but, hey, somebody has to do the dirty work. Good thing you're not really there or you'd be finding out for yourself. But you could always try going to Pakiwakiland. They'd be happy to give you a bomb vest.
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#8: "somebody has to do the dirty work"
Hey, think we'll see the Israeli attack on an episode of "Dirty Jobs" on the Discovery Channel?
Does anyone know where Mike Rowe is right now? :-D
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The Dogmush Clan are keeping a very low profile.
Ma'an -- Palestinian communications networks are barely functioning in the Gaza Strip due to cables damaged by several Israeli airstrikes on network infrastructure on Saturday. Palestinian mobile provider Jawwal's phone may stop working "at any minute" as shelling severely damaged the provider's telecommunications network in Gaza.
PalTel, Jawwal's parent company based in the West Bank, told Ma'an, "The Israeli shelling damaged the electric grid and caused continuous cuts."
"The lack of fuel will lead to cutting lines with the telecommunications company (in Gaza) and the Hadara internet company, as well as Jawwal's mobile phones," the statement added. The statement warned that "all means of communication with the Gaza Strip will be highly affected and may totally cut off."
Attempts to contact Ma'an's correspondents by mobile were unsuccessful early Sunday morning. Landlines appeared to be working properly between homes in Gaza and Ma'an's headquarters in Bethlehem.
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After all the cell phones and the internet not longer work, all Hamas communications to their overlords will have to go by satphone or land lines, which, I presume run through Israel.
I'm sure the IDF has this in mind, but I wonder if the thought ever occured to Hamas.
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Keep calm...we got your comm.
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GAZA: Israel allowed hundreds of foreigners, many of them married to Palestinians, to leave the enclave, raising fears here that Israel was planning to escalate its campaign. Hundreds of spouses of Palestinians, including women from Romania, Russia, Ukraine and nations in Western Europe, left Gaza on Friday with the help of diplomats from their countries.
Alla Semaks, 34, a Ukrainian married to a Palestinian, and her four children were among about 300 people who came in buses to the Erez checkpoint in northern Gaza to cross into Israel. Her husband, Mohammed Atawneh, 36, was not leaving because he had only Palestinian identity papers, she said in a telephone interview. "I want to come back when the situation allows it," she said. "I have nothing in Ukraine. My children are very afraid for their father. We fear there will be an Israeli ground offensive."
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"Hundreds of spouses of Palestinians, including women from Romania, Russia, Ukraine and nations in Western Europe, left Gaza on Friday"
How the hell bad must things be in "Romania, Russia, Ukraine and nations in Western Europe" that these idiots women chose Gaza instead?
Boggle
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut ||
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Slave prostitutes Barbara. When the various mobs tire of them in the MidEast and EU they eventually get sold to the paleos.
#3
I thought all the Gazans were poor and without money because of their own laziness the Israeli embargo. Where would they get money for a foreign bride?
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Where would they get money for a foreign bride?
Israeli ground forces rolled into the Gaza Strip on Saturday night, as the military announced the beginning of the second stage of a massive, eight-day offensive that has already cost more than 430 Palestinian lives. "The objective of this step is to destroy the terrorist infrastructure of Hamas . . . in order to greatly reduce the quantity of rockets fired by Hamas at Israeli civilians," the Israeli military said in a statement.
Palestinian witnesses reported seeing Israeli vehicles move into Gaza near the strip's northeast corner. Israel said the ground-based assault would include tanks, infantry and artillery. Until Saturday, Israel had exclusively relied on air and sea power to conduct its offensive against Hamas, which began a week ago.
The ground invasion came under cover of darkness around 8 p.m., with electricity having been cut for much of the territory. Soldiers with night-vision goggles advanced on foot, while others traveled in tanks and armored personnel carriers. Hamas officials vowed to fight back against the onslaught.
Earlier in the day, Hamas and its allies in Gaza fired 30 rockets into Israel, hitting three homes. There were no major injuries. During the past eight days, four Israelis have been killed, three of them civilians.
The military said it planned to take control of some areas used by Hamas to launch rockets. It was unclear how long Israel intended to hold those areas, or how deep into Gaza the forces planned to move.
It is not uncommon for Israel to move ground forces into Gaza for relatively quick, targeted strikes. But Israeli officials indicated that this operation will be lengthy. "It will not be easy or short. But we are determined. . . . Now is the time to do what needs to be done," said Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak in a news conference late Saturday night.
Barak said the goal of the operation was to "get Hamas to stop its hostile activities against Israel."
Other Israeli military officials in television interviews also suggested that the incursion would not be short-lived. One spokeswoman, Maj. Avital Leibovich, said on CNN that it would be a "lengthy operation" because "we have many, many targets." Another, Brigadier Avi Benayahu, said on Israel's Channel Two, "We are talking about many long days."
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Other Israeli military officials in television interviews also suggested that the incursion would not be short-lived. One spokeswoman, Maj. Avital Leibovich, said on CNN that it would be a "lengthy operation" because "we have many, many targets." Another, Brigadier Avi Benayahu, said on Israel's Channel Two, "We are talking about many long days."
#5
Ahem.. so the goal is not to have hummus renounce their charter, step down as a democratically elected government, or kiss either pooEhud's or Tzipshit's cornholes?
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"Ahem.. so the goal is not to have hummus renounce their charter, step down as a democratically elected government, or kiss either pooEhud's or Tzipshit's cornholes?
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Well yes, and no sweetums.
Charter - kill jews. Yeah, gonna hafta think that one through. Maybe they can kill more of you when they get fed up enough.
"Democratically-elected government." Oh, I'm sorry. I laughed so hard, I peed just a little,
"Kiss cornholes" - if that is a Hamas specialty, they must work much harder on their sucking skills.
Good to hear from you though. Let us know when you wake up. Check Wikipedia for a lesson on "cause and effect".
We're fighting the flintstones. Yeesh.
May I quote your "hummus" designation? Dipsticks all. Less pepper, more moderate seasonings, dahling.
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arik did not screw up. They are still better off doing an op like this than having to defend settlements. Note well, they have asserted they are NOT going to reoccupy Gaza, much less reestablish settlements there.
Is the goal to destroy Hamas rule? In Op Shalom LeGalil, they made the mistake of saying their goal was to destroy Hezbo. When the failed to do that, the op was seen as a dramatic failure, despte major harm to Hezbo. They are playing the expectations game better. Their goal is to stop rocket launches, whether by physical destruction of Hamas assets, or by convincing Hamas its not such a good idea. While they do that, they are clearly attacking targets like the police that maintain Hamas in power, but they are not staking the success of the op on removing Hamas from power as part of THIS op.
An unidentified gunman killed a man and wounded his wife in a shooting believed linked to the southern unrest, which marks five years on Sunday. Suwat Longsamut was shot in the neck while he was drove his motorcycle, and his wife, riding as his passenger, was shot in her shoulder and was wounded. He died at the scene but she was rushed to hospital, together with their two-year-old nephew who was unscathed.
The insurgency erupted on Jan 4, 2004, when militants raided a southern army base, killing four soldiers and collecting quantities of weapons and ammunition.
Sri Lankan jets and helicopters bombed Tamil Tiger positions in the north of the island on Saturday, the military said, a day after ground forces seized the rebels' de facto capital Kilinochchi.
The military is now targeting the port town of Mullaitivu and other rebel strongholds in the north, as it seeks to deliver a knockout blow to end the island's 25-year separatist war. There has been no direct comment from the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam (LTTE) on the fall of Kilinochchi.
"Fighter jets raided a Sea Tiger base in Mullaitivu while MI-24 helicopters attacked rebel positions in and around Mullaitivu in support of ground troops," Air Force spokesman Wing Commander Janaka Nanayakkara said.
Troops fought their way into Kilinochchi, deep in the north, on Friday in one of the biggest blows for the rebels in years. However, Tigers' website said they had moved their headquarters further northeast before the town fell.
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The hardline Islamist Al-Shabaab movement on Sunday warned of clashes between insurgent fighters in Somalia and reiterated their resolve to continue fighting the Ethiopian troops which are withdrawing. "We tell the Mujahideen (fighters), all of them, not to turn their guns against each other but rather to direct it at the enemy forces in our country," said Sheik Muqtar Robow, spokesman for Al-Shabaab, in a press briefing held in the southern Bay region. 
Aswat al-Iraq: A policeman was killed on Saturday when his patrol came under gunmen fire in central Mosul, said a security source from Ninewa. "The incident took place at Ras al-Qor area in central Mosul," the source told Aswat al-Iraq news agency.
Ma'an -- Palestinian fighters detonated a 50 kilogram bomb as Israeli forces crossed into the Gaza Strip, a spokesperson of one of the key armed Palestinian armed groups said on Saturday evening.
Israeli ground forces rolled into the Gaza Strip on Saturday night, as the military announced the beginning of the second stage of a massive, eight-day offensive that has already cost more than 430 Palestinian lives. "The objective of this step is to destroy the terrorist infrastructure of Hamas . . . in order to greatly reduce the quantity of rockets fired by Hamas at Israeli civilians," the Israeli military said in a statement. 
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