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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Unrolled thread from @TheLastRefuge2 - This is where it gets ugly, very ugly
[Thread Reader] Watch this video. People don't understand how Broward County School Sheriff Officers operate. I'll explain.

Reversing Broward County's School-to-Prison Pipeline

I wish there some way I could 'un-read' this stuff.
Posted by: Besoeker || 02/24/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Put "Crime Scene" tape around the whole damn place.
Posted by: newc || 02/24/2018 1:16 Comments || Top||

#2  This is unbelievable, On the other hand it is like the way the Chicoms eliminated beggars in their cities that were open to foreigners. They picked all the beggars up and moved them either to places not open for foreigners or to the next world. They got lots of praise circa 1950 for their wonderful accomplishment.
Posted by: Daniel || 02/24/2018 2:32 Comments || Top||

#3  So one level of government gamed the system to get money from another level of government. And honest citizens got subjected to crime to make the scheme happen. Criminal conspiracy?
Posted by: M. Murcek || 02/24/2018 8:24 Comments || Top||

#4  So one level of government gamed the system to get money from another level of government.

Did you see the contents of the last budget passed by Congress? File under SOP.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/24/2018 8:35 Comments || Top||

#5  The left looked at Parkland as a welcome break from the collapse of the Russian collusion narrative. Frying pan -> fire...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 02/24/2018 11:40 Comments || Top||

#6  So it was just another crime that Scott Peterson was ordered to overlook?

Sorry, kids. Your local pols are crooked as hell and your parents never caught on. They were supposed to protect you but they were too busy with their power grabs and lining their pockets. I wish I could say it's better where I live but I'm not so sure.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 02/24/2018 12:20 Comments || Top||

#7  Zzzzz...
Posted by: Jeff Sessions || 02/24/2018 13:37 Comments || Top||

#8  If Sessions was asleep he could be halfway forgiven. The prick is as awake as he can be and in it up to his guilty as hell neck.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 02/24/2018 16:12 Comments || Top||

#9  Florida
Posted by: 746 || 02/24/2018 17:13 Comments || Top||


-Land of the Free
The answer to the problem of gun violence cannot just be “more guns.”
[WashingtonPost] National Rifle Association Vice President Wayne LaPierre says people who want stronger gun control after the shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla. — apparently including the students who survived there — “don’t care about our schoolchildren. They want to make all of us less free!”

By LaPierre’s account, Florida — with some of the loosest gun laws in the nation — ought to be one of the freest states in the nation. Try telling that to the students in Parkland. Try telling that to the families of victims, whose freedom was robbed last week in gruesome fashion. Try telling that to the survivors of the Pulse nightclub shooting in Orlando in 2016, where 49 people were killed — or the survivors of the shooting at Fort Lauderdale airport in January 2017, where five were killed and 36 injured in the mayhem. How free do they feel in a society where such events happen regularly and lawmakers do nothing to prevent them?
The law is a terrible instrument to prevent anything, especially evil. Law is primarily custodial in nature. When the law ceases to be custodial and becomes preventative, you will have tyranny.
Now the NRA and its allies are saying we need to arm teachers and staff in our schools, instead of doing something that might make it harder to get guns, like closing the legal loophole in Florida and most other states that lets anyone buy a weapon in a private sale without any background check.
Called universal background checks. The author is suggesting what didn't work in keeping a firearm away from a bad guy will work if it is applied to all gun purchases. As I recall, the young man bought the rifle, as well as a variety of other firearms, legally through the federal transfer system. Applying that to all purchases will likely work as well as it did with the young man.
If a coach at the high school had been armed, President Trump said Thursday, he could have stopped the gunman in his tracks. Trump questioned the policy of designating schools “gun free zones” because this advertises to a “sicko shooter” that schools are soft targets. If teachers and staff are armed, the president says, this will deter prospective shooters. This is plainly false: There was an armed guard at the Parkland school, but he didn’t even attempt to confront the killer. For that matter, there was an armed guard at Columbine High School during the first mass school shooting to capture national attention in 1999. He was no match for the shooters’ firepower — four weapons, including a semiautomatic firearm.
The point is that with an armed individual, whether there in an official capacity or privately, the chances of stopping a shooting increases. The author wants to paint everyone else with the same broad brush as the killer, and apply a draconian law in the false notion that it will reduce the likelyhood of shootings.
What kind of firepower, what show of defense, would credibly deter shooters?
It only takes one well placed shot to stop a shooter.
And what transformation does this risk inflicting on our schools? If we outfit teachers with concealed handguns, will the NRA say after the next shooting that school officials must match the firepower of would-be killers? Are we morally required to stock schools with AR-15s?
You'll have to decide that for yourself. My main point is that with enough armed individuals at school, your chances of preventing, not to mention stopping a shooting increases.
After the Sandy Hook school shooting, NRA minion Louie Gohmert said he wished the principal “had an M-4 [semiautomatic rifle] in her office” so she could have stopped the shooter in his tracks. Is this soon to become part of the common visit to the principal’s office — gazing up at the semiautomatic rifle mounted on the wall, over the desk?
If the teacher is smart, the rifle will be out of sight, leaned against something, barrel down, a round chambered, and ready to rock.
Of course, as many have noted, arming teachers is no solution to mass shootings. They will hardly make such situations better — they will probably make them worse by compounding the damage and bloodshed. Even trained police officers have a hard time using their weapons precisely, much less effectively, in chaotic situations.
Thank you. Better to have someone there with the training, and most of all, the will to use a firearm in such situations. Cops don't always meet that standard, but a cop is better than no one.
So perhaps LaPierre’s solution is to deliver school shootouts, where students must cower in the crossfire between criminals and teachers. If so, enterprising companies — often in the defense industry, accustomed to outfitting our soldiers for foreign campaigns — are ready with products designed to protect students from said shootouts. These include bulletproof backpacks for the kids and bulletproof whiteboards and clipboards for teachers. Or bulletproof blankets that students can pull over themselves — even bulletproof armor that can be pulled off the walls and ceilings. These are school expenses I am sure the NRA would happily endorse.
Those are passive measures, helpful to be sure, but not a solution to a kinetic situation.
But what will our schools look like when we are done? What will our schools feel like? Is this where we are to train and nurture a free society, in the midst of assault rifles and bulletproof armor?
Right now schools are target rich environments. That doesn't change, but for a few shooters dedicated to returning the gunfire of a Bad Guy.
Those things signify and communicate something quite other than freedom. They impose an environment of fear, which can be debilitating to our youth, whom we should want to be confident, open, honest and happy. These are not the kinds of things you see in a free society, but a society at war. How bizarre is it that we would willfully take on the trappings of a society at war, while countless nations around the world — embroiled in real, live civil wars — envy our peace?
You just destroyed your own argument. Surprised the editors didn't catch that.
Editors are expensive, so news organizations have been trading them in for spell check programs.
This is madness, of course. The NRA’s logic dictates that we should make our schools look like war zones to accommodate unfettered gun rights.

Rather than imposing a bunker mentality on our youth, how about trying the basics of gun control? We already have gun control.
You just want to increase it with more laws added to the 20,000 laws that already don't work.
Because right now, there is little of that, especially in Florida. In addition to forgoing universal background checks on gun sales, Florida is the laboratory of “stand your ground” laws, which permit gun owners to shoot people they deem threatening. Of course, the nature of “threat” is highly subjective, and predictably, many innocent people have been needlessly killed, thanks to this reckless law. Florida also imposes a gag rule on doctors forbidding them from discussing gun safety with patients who have a gun in the home. In this case, Florida decided that the Second Amendment should overrule the First.
Puleez. Discussions with a patient are not a part of free speech.
And Florida lawmakers have been eager to follow the lead of 11 other states that have recently legalized “permitless carry,” whereby gun owners can carry a gun in public with no permit — or safety training.
I would say the vast majority of gun owners already have safety training, or can get it on their own. Florida is crawling with tactical firearms instructors.
Are people finally waking up to our outrageous gun laws? Is this what we are seeing now, with Stoneman Douglas High students storming their state capital, flooding lawmakers with loud, impassioned demands for action?
We are seeing gun control activists and Democrats manipulating youth for their own ends.
Do the youth understand better what their elders ignore?
No.
Is this why they are staging school protests across the nation, walking out of class? Because they see the nation that the NRA wants them to inherit, and they know it is absurd, chilling, apocalyptic?
If they were smart, they first would not allow the left to use them like a condom.
The NRA, and the gun rights movement more broadly, is fragile, weak, ripe for defeat. While there are 270 million guns in America, ownership is shockingly concentrated: half the guns are owned by 3 percent of gun owners. Gun ownership drops precipitously among younger people, with no sign of a rebound — certainly not after the Parkland shooting, as teens recoil at the NRA’s vision for America.
That's new firearms, sweetie. You have no clue as to privately acquired firearms.
What’s more, the NRA represents a tiny minority of voters, and only a minority of gun owners. It has prevailed against the majority of Americans who favor stronger gun control laws — 90 percent of whom want universal background checks, for example — by persuading or threatening lawmakers to heed its will, over and against their constituents. This worked fine so long as voters did not prioritize gun control and ignored the outrageous laws around them. But now things might change. For the NRA, the game is almost up. It’s long past time.
Posted by: badanov || 02/24/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yes it can.
Posted by: newc || 02/24/2018 0:11 Comments || Top||

#2  The answer to the problem of gun violence cannot just be “more guns.”

Right. The answer is more law abiding, caring citizens equipped with guns and trained in their use.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 02/24/2018 5:03 Comments || Top||

#3  Is this soon to become part of the common visit to the principal’s office — gazing up at the semiautomatic rifle mounted on the wall, over the desk?

And the head of one incoming freshman class chosen by lottery. Technically, two students are drawn and they fight to the death on the football field. Winner wears a scarlet letter, loser gets mounted. Oh, also a water buffalo, felled by spear.

Actually, there are some really neat gun safes out there, some with rft unlock for quick access. Make it look like a bookshelf, gun grabbers and bad guys won't go near it.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 02/24/2018 10:01 Comments || Top||

#4  Oh, yeah, tell that to DoD every time they submit a new budget request. Just because the Russkies and Chinese are upping their spending doesn't mean we have to. Right? /s
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/24/2018 12:23 Comments || Top||

#5  So once again this morning I am wearing my tin foil hat.

But what are we supposed to think? We know they hate Trump and we know they want gun control. So when somebody offers a solution that Trump endorses and it allows law abiding citizens to keep their guns they go into #resist mode.

Do they want more school shootings? That's a tough question. But if they can blame it on Trump and continue to escalate their calls for a ban on the AR-15 you kinda have to wonder.

Then we find out the FBI knew about this kid in Parkland. The local sheriff knew. No way in hell would this kid pass a background check if some of his crimes had not been ignored by local law enforcement.

What the fuck did they think was gonna happen?

Oh, by the way, my understanding is that an AR-15 will cost upwards of a thousand dollars. I don't know because I was never in the market for one but I think they are not cheap and how many of them did Cruz have and how many other guns did he have? He was a 19 year old high school dropout. Where did he work? How did he get his hands on enough money to buy his guns? Has anybody besides me even asked?
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 02/24/2018 12:42 Comments || Top||

#6  If I had scrolled down a bit the answer to one of my questions was right there...

.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $450 Last Week Avg: $440(+) ($616 (2Q, 2015), $387 (25 Weeks))

Not a thousand dollars. Maybe I should run out and buy one. Still I think it's a considerable amount of money for a 19 year old high school dropout and I still think it's reasonable to ask how he got his hands on that much money.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 02/24/2018 12:52 Comments || Top||

#7  actually I heard his the couple that had taken him in after his adoptive mother died last November (flu) filed for the remainder of the estate he (and his brother?) inherited, and it's a bundle (like $800 K). AR's are not cheap but he probably had access to enough cash
Posted by: Frank G || 02/24/2018 12:58 Comments || Top||

#8  Not a thousand dollars. Maybe I should run out and buy one. Still I think it's a considerable amount of money for a 19 year old high school dropout and I still think it's reasonable to ask how he got his hands on that much money.

I am hearing stories about local gun shop owners selling new, assembled ARs (DPMS, etc) for $400 out the door. Retail outlets just want to be rid of the things because of market conditions.
Rural King is selling M&P Sport 15s for $499.

The AR market is a buyer's market at the moment. If the left would just shut its f*cking mouth for two weeks, prices for ARs would continue to go down harder than Nina Burleigh on Bill Clinton.
Posted by: badanov || 02/24/2018 13:51 Comments || Top||

#9  Correction: shooting its mouth off and stop goading potential shooters into shooting up the place.
Posted by: badanov || 02/24/2018 14:00 Comments || Top||

#10  “More guns”? Let’s see. How many mass shootings occur at gun shows versus how many occur at gun free zones? That answer might be a clue.
Posted by: Airandee || 02/24/2018 15:55 Comments || Top||

#11  The answer to gun violence cannot be taking guns away from people who never have and never will use them in a crime.
Posted by: Iblis || 02/24/2018 16:26 Comments || Top||

#12  All the gun laws in the world are worthless if those doing the background checks can't really be bothered to actually do proper background check.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 02/24/2018 17:30 Comments || Top||

#13  Teachers carry in Texas.
Posted by: Omeger Gray6606 || 02/24/2018 19:13 Comments || Top||


This Week in Guns, February 24th, 2018


By Chris Covert
Rantburg.com

Ten days after the massacre in Florida, we know little more about the young man who killed those 17 unarmed students.

The social media wars rage, however. Trolling on the Huff Post Politics’ Facebook page, I get to see, once again, the madness of the face of Liberalism, and it is just as awful now as when I repudiated it all those years ago.

Organizations such as Think Progress have managed to get two high profile corporate entities to eliminate NRA member discounts, including Enterprise car rental and their two other companies, National and Avis.

Additionally, Omaha National Bank has ceased their relationship with the NRA.

On social media, we keep seeing calls for everything from heavier regulation to outright bans, including bans of the AR-15. That includes everything but what we know will actually work and is in line with basic rights.

Even in the firearms and related industries, we are seeing calls for increased regulation.

None of this is surprising to me. Back just prior to the 2004 presidential elections we kept seeing people who up to that point, had solemnly sworn an allegiance to conservatism, break for the left in seemingly large numbers. That is when I started to understand, really clearly understand, the term Domestic Enemies for the first time. At the time I called them line crossers, but in my political journey I have learned better, more applicable terms.

For all the hysteria being ginned up, everything we are seeing, as in 2004, is coming from the top, not from the grassroots. The leftist grassroots believe what they believe, but action is only taken by politicians, lawyers and lobbyists.

So if you are horrified by the shootings in Florida, there are actions you can take. Good luck with that, and with being a good little target.

Loads

Rantburg's summary for arms and ammunition:

Pistol ammunition prices were mixed. Rifle ammunition prices were mostly steady.

Prices for used pistols were mostly higher. Prices for used rifles were mostly higher.

Ten days after the massacre at Florida, used firearms prices remain stable. AR-15 prices have risen an average of $10 per unit, after having seemingly settling in at $440. Concomitantly, AR ammunition has remained steady, even going down slightly for bulk purchases. In short, in the used firearm market the buyers and sellers in Armslist do not appear to be especially worried about Congressional action on gun control, despite everything that is being said currently.

I will say, however, that general price levels for pistols appear to be set for an increase, as I am seeing prices for lower and intermediate valued pistols rise. This report focuses on the cheapest firearm in the three pistol categories, so general price levels won't be reflected.

New Lows:

Texas: 30-30 Winchester Lever Action: Marlin 3079: $290

Pistol Ammunition

.45 Caliber, 230 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3 weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Red River Reloading, Silver Bear, FMJ, Steel Casing, .22 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: East Carolina Trading, Own brand, FMJ, Brass Casing, Reloads, .20 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (6 Weeks))

.40 Caliber Smith & Wesson, 180 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing .20 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: East Carolina Trading, Own Brand, CRN, Brass Casing, Reloads, .17 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (9 Weeks))

9mm Parabellum, 115 Grain, From Last Week: +.01 Each
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Expert Ammo, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing .14 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Expert Ammo, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing .13 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged -.01 Each After (4 Weeks))

.357 Magnum, 158 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3Q, 2017)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .23 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .23 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3Q, 2017))

.38 Special, 158 Grain, From Last Week: -.01 Each After Unchanged (8 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Vizards Gun and Ammo, Prvi Partizan, RNL, Brass Casing .23 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 500 rounds: Ammo Valley, Own brand, FP, Brass Casing, Reloads, .24 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)

Rifle Ammunition

.223 Caliber/5.56mm 55 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (4Q, 2017)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Able's, Wolf WPA, FMJ, Steel Casing, .20 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Expert Ammo, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .19 per round (From Last Week: -.02 Each After Unchanged (4Q, 2017))

.308 NATO 150 Grain, From Last Week: -.02 Each After Unchanged (3Q, 2017)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Expert Ammo, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .30 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Expert Ammo, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .28 per round (From Last Week: -.03 Each)

7.62x39mm AK 123 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Red River Reloading, Wolf WPA, FMJ, Steel Casing, .22 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: True Shot Gun Club, Wolf WPA, Steel Casing, FMJ, .19 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3Q, 2017))

.30-06 Springfield 145 Grain. From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Target Sports USA, Wolf WPA, Steel Casing, FMJ, .60 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: United Nations Ammo, Wolf WPA, Steel Casing, FMJ, .53 per round (From Last week: Unchanged (4Q, 2017))

.300 Winchester Magnum 150 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Selway Armory, Prvi Partizan, Brass Casing, SP, .75 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Expert Ammo, Prvi Partizan, Brass Casing, SP, .70 per round (From Last Week: -.15 Each After Unchanged (4Q, 2017)

.338 Lapua Magnum 250 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (7 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Ten Ring, Brass Casing, SP, 2.15 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 200 rounds: Cabelas, Prvi Partizan, Brass Casing, HPBT, 2.80 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (1Q, 2018))

.22 LR 40 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Ammo King, Aguila, RNL, .04 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 5,000 rounds: Expert Ammo, Aguila, RNL, .03 per round (From Last Week: -.01 Each After Unchanged (2Q, 2017))

Guns for Private Sale
Rifles

.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $450 Last Week Avg: $440(+) ($616 (2Q, 2015), $387 (25 Weeks))
Arizona (201, 3Q, 2017(+3))(119, 114): CMMG: $400 ($740 (9 Weeks), $300 (24 Weeks))
Texas (484, 3Q, 2017(+3))(329, 354): Ruger 556: $500 ($700 (1Q, 2015), $350 (2Q, 2015))
Pennsylvania (249, 3Q, 2017(+6))(147, 156): Aero Precision: $550 ($700 (2Q, 2015), $300 (3Q, 2015))
Virginia (282, 3Q, 2017)(224, 250): Anderson: $450 ($750 (1Q, 2015), $300 (12 Weeks))
Florida (679, 3Q, 2017)(435, 474): American Tactical Imports: $350 ($650 (2Q, 2015), $350 (3 Weeks))

.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $860 Last Week Avg:$870(-) ($1,359 (2Q, 2015), $766 (37 Weeks))
Arizona (49, 3Q, 2017(+6))(34, 39): Live Free Armory: $1,000 ($2,300 (37 Weeks), $500 (20 Weeks))
Texas (178, 3Q, 2017)(89, 87): DPMS: $900 ($1,500 (4Q, 2014), $600 (3 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (54, 3Q, 2017)(27, 34):Alexander Arms: $850 ($1,600 (4Q, 2016), $700 (3Q, 2015))
Virginia (86, 3Q, 2017)(61, 62): Bushmaster ORC: $850 ($2,750 (1Q, 2016), $675 (16 Weeks))
Florida (128, 3Q, 2017(+3))(69, 66): DPMS: $700 ($1,950 (2Q, 1016), $500 (3Q, 2015))

7.62x39mm (AK Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $600 Last Week Avg: $728(+) ($728 (2 Weeks), $450 (3Q, 2015)))
Arizona (34, 3Q, 2017(+3))(33, 33): Unspecified Brand: $650 ($950 (2 Weeks), $400 (41 Weeks))
Texas (141, 3Q, 2017)(67, 67): IO: $650 ($1,000 (2 Weeks)), $350 (3Q, 2014))
Pennsylvania (75, 3Q, 2017)(45, 54): WASR: $550 ($750 (1Q, 2015), $375 (1Q, 2015))
Virginia (72, 3Q, 2017)(58, 53): IO: $600 ($700 (2Q, 2016), $300 (17 Weeks))
Florida (146, 3Q, 2017)(138, 141): Feg AMD 65: $550 ($700 (1Q, 2016), $300 (4Q, 2014))

30-30 Winchester Lever Action Average Price: $408 Last Week Avg: $475(+) ($495 (4Q, 2016), $296 (3Q, 2015))
Arizona (14, 3Q, 2017)(4, 4): Winchester 94: $550 ($800 (2 Weeks), $200 (40 Weeks)))
Texas (35, 3Q, 2017(+2))(24, 25): Marlin 3079: $290 ($550 (1Q, 2015), ($290 (CA:$295 (38 Weeks)))
Pennsylvania (23, 3Q, 2017)(13, 16): Winchester 94: $400 ($450 (1Q, 2015), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Virginia (19, 3Q, 2017(+3))(9, 7): Winchester 94: $500 ($670 (2Q, 2016), $250 (4Q, 2015))
Florida (34, 3Q, 2017)(21, 22): Marlin: $300 ($500 (1Q, 2015), $250 (2Q, 2015))

Pistols

.45 caliber ACP (M1911 Pattern Semiautomatic Pistol) Average Price: $508 Last Week Avg: $473(+) ($525 (3Q, 2016), $350 (4Q, 2015))
Arizona (134, 3Q, 2017(+5))(90, 89): Taurus: $515 ($700 (41 Weeks), $325 (27 Weeks))
Texas (361, 3Q, 2017 (+3))(257, 273): Kimber: $650 ($650 (CA: $600 (4Q, 2014), $300 (4Q, 2016)))
Pennsylvania (178, 3Q, 2017)(172, 176): Remington R1: $425 ($600 (29 Weeks), $300 (2Q, 2015))
Virginia (204, 3Q, 2017(+3))(169, 169): Charles Daly: $450 ($775 (29 Weeks), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Florida (440, 3Q, 2017)(299, 308): American Tactical Imports: $500 ($500 (1Q, 2016), $250 (1Q, 2015))

9mm (Beretta 92FS or other Semiautomatic) Average Price: $298 Last Week Avg: $275(+) ($358 (1Q, 2016), $207 (41 Weeks))
Arizona (238, 3Q, 2017)(164, 181): Smith & Wesson: $250 ($400 (48 Weeks), $180 (16 Weeks))
Texas (586, 3Q, 2017(+3))(488, 485): Ruger P95: $315 ($355 (1Q, 2015), $180 (18 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (441, 3Q, 2017(+2))(321, 441): Kel Tec P-11: $250 ($350 (4Q 2014), $150 (1Q, 2017))
Virginia (365, 3Q, 2017(+6))(325, 321): Ruger SR9: $350 ($425 (4Q, 2016), $189 (2Q, 2016))
Florida (827, 3Q, 2017)(724, 717): Smith & Wesson Model 915: $275 ($400 (1Q, 2016), $160 (42 Weeks))

.40 caliber S&W (Glock or other semiautomatic) Average Price: $301 Last Week Avg: $317(-) ($399 (1Q, 2016), $262 (2Q, 2016))
Arizona (77, 3Q, 2017(+2))(45, 44): Springfield XD: $300 ($500 (1Q, 2017), $195 (38 Weeks))
Texas (156, 3Q, 2017(+2))(120, 130): Smith & Wesson: $280 ($425 (4Q, 2014), $180 (11 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (115, 3Q, 2017(+5))(90, 93): Sig Sauer Pro 2340: $325 ($450 (2Q, 2016), $200 (3Q, 2016))
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Posted by: badanov || 02/24/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Are they the same people that was screaming and hollering about the square root gun?

Oh right, it's freezing out there, and their IQ match the temperature.
Posted by: Seeking cure for ignorance || 02/24/2018 7:55 Comments || Top||

#2  Using freshman logic and faulty inductive reasoning, better start chopping up your car, too.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 02/24/2018 11:47 Comments || Top||


Great White North
Trudeau's India trip is a total disaster ‐ and he has only himself to blame
[WashingtonPost] How did Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, the world's favorite liberal mascot ‐ a feminist man, with movie-star good looks, a 50 percent female cabinet and a political lexicon that has replaced "mankind" with "peoplekind" (making millions swoon) ‐ end up looking silly, diminished and desperate on his trip to India this week?

Trudeau's eight-day India expedition has been an absolute fiasco.

Hours before meeting with Prime Minister Narendra Modi, his journey hit a dead end when the Canadian high commissioner invited a Sikh extremist named Jaspal Atwal (who has been convicted of attempted murder and was previously affiliated with a terrorist group) to a dinner to honor Trudeau in Delhi. Atwal was found guilty of trying to kill an Indian minister in 1986; he was also blamed for an assault on Ujjal Dosanjh, the former premier of British Columbia.
Heh - written by a fangirl as AOSHQ ONT notes
Posted by: Frank G || 02/24/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Excellent - on to Australia with you, mate!
Posted by: Raj || 02/24/2018 9:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Good that Fidel isn't alive to see his son act so goofy
Posted by: Frank G || 02/24/2018 9:51 Comments || Top||

#3  Obama wannabe sans the melanin-actuated distortion field.
Posted by: Anomalous Sources || 02/24/2018 12:46 Comments || Top||

#4  When you have an IQ in negative digits, it's not hard to make yourself look foolish. Trudeau was elected on name recognition and the inability of the opposition party to present a viable candidate. The man's a mental midget -- or am I being too hard on midgets?
Posted by: Old Patriot || 02/24/2018 18:42 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
How the civilized caused eastern Ghouta crime
[ENGLISH.ALARABIYA.NET] What has happened and is happening in eastern Ghouta in Damascus is a crime against humanity and a "stamp of shame on all of humankind", as the Lebanese Christian politician, Samir Geagea
... Geagea was imprisoned by the Syrians and their puppets for 11 years in a dungeon in the third basement level of the Lebanese Ministry of Defense. He was released after the Cedar Revolution in 2005 ...
, said.

In his last statement, Geagea said: "Whatever the reasons, arguments or excuses are, nothing justifies the killing of innocent civilians (in large numbers) beyond imagination with heavy weaponry and with this insistence ."

He called for an international military intervention to stop the massacre, because spoken statement are of no use.

A forward-thinking stance from an Arab political figure in light of the let down from some Arabs. They ignore the publicized deaths of thousands of civilians, including old men, women and kiddies, by Russian planes, Bashar’s raids and Nasrallah’s guns like mute devils.

A major crime that will be recorded in the name of Russia, the Assad regime and all those who involved with them.

The excuse they use is that they need to drive out the turbans from Ghouta, but what greater terror is there than killing masses of people blindly, Geagea asked.

I say, yes, there are terrorist activities carried out by al-Qaeda factions like Tahrir al-Sham
and the Corps of Rahman although the latter agreed to reduce activity in Russian escalation zones, however, they are now getting more escalation than ever from Russian planes.

Yes, these factions exist but there is also Jaish al-Islam
...Liwa al-Islam (Brigade of Islam) was established by Zahran Alloush, the son of Saudi-based religious scholar Abdullah Mohammed Alloush, after Syrian authorities released him from prison in mid-2011 where he had been serving time for his Salafist activism. The group claimed responsibility for carrying out the July 2012 Damascus bombing that killed Defense Minister Dawoud Rajiha, Deputy Defense Minister Asef Shawkat, and Assistant Vice President Hassan Turkmani. It was a driving force behind actions in the Damascus region. It cooperated and conducted joint operations with al-Nusra. In Sptember 2013 Saudi Arabia engineered Liwa al-Islam's merger with fifty other more or less Salafist groups as a counterweight to al-Nusra, which the Learned Elders of Islam considered was growing too powereful...
which was founded by Zahran Alloush in 2013. He died in 2015 due to a Russian air raid.

This ’Islamic’ faction, made up of people from rural Damascus, is now part of the Syrian opposition who are negotiating in Geneva and other places.

Zahran’s brother, Mohammed Alloush, a Syrian leader in the negotiating delegation, has battled ISIS and was almost assassinated by them several times. Alloush faction also have clear disagreements with Tahrir al-Sham, who are considered part of al-Qaeda.

To be honest, even if the fighters in Ghouta were all followers of Ibrahim Hanano, or Sultan al-Atrash or Saleh al-Ali, they would not have been able to escape Khamenei’s militia, Russia’s planes and Assad’s raids.

The Russian goal is to eliminate all of Bashar’s opposition, and enable him to control the people and the country. Everyone who fights Bashar is a terrorist, and everyone who fights with his is civilized.

Again, we do not support all those who take up arms against Bashar, as among them are turbans and warmongers, but all of these do not override the clear truth: that the Syrian war has killed almost half a million people, and displaced about 10 million with Bashar’s blessings and all those who support him.

But the people of Ghouta, there’s no remorse for them.

Posted by: Fred || 02/24/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Syria


Home Front: Culture Wars
NRA Members Vow To Boycott Companies That Have Ditched Gun Rights Group
[PoliticalInsider] Whenever there’s a mass shooting, gun-grabbers respond in two ways: call for more gun control and attack the NRA. That’s certainly been the case following the recent school shooting in Parkland, Fla., but law-abiding members of the NRA aren’t taking it lying down.

Recently, three car rental companies ‐ Enterprise, Alamo, and National ‐ all revealed on Twitter that they’ve ended a discount program for NRA members effective March 26th.

All three companies are owned by Enterprise Holdings Inc. And in response, many supporters of the NRA vowed to never use their services again.

However, Enterprise wasn’t the only company to sever ties with Enterprise. First National Bank of Omaha, the nation’s largest privately owned bank, announced Thursday that they will no longer offer an NRA-branded Visa card.

And of course, Michael Moore had to throw in his two cents and label the NRA a "terrorist organization."

These people are truly delusional. Attacking the Second Amendment and its supporters will achieve nothing, as they are not to blame for tragedies like what occurred in Parkland.
Snarky Tweets alert!
Posted by: Anomalous Sources || 02/24/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Whiny SJWs vs people who actually have and spend money. Even Vegas won't take that bet, but a lot of 'credentialed' corporation PR people will.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/24/2018 8:37 Comments || Top||

#2  Is FNB Omaha a Warren Boo-fay operation?
Posted by: M. Murcek || 02/24/2018 9:28 Comments || Top||

#3  Same with Dallas....NRA members are all too happy to take their money elsewhere. And spread alot of negative publicity about these companies. I already refuse to shop at places that deny me the ability to protect myself and my family. Texas even has a website to help you avoid them.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 02/24/2018 11:45 Comments || Top||

#4  Delta, United end discounted rate for NRA members - growth through subtraction. I guess "B-School" is teaching different things nowadays...
Posted by: Anomalous Sources || 02/24/2018 12:05 Comments || Top||

#5  Who joins the NRA for the fab partnership discounts?
Posted by: Capsu78 || 02/24/2018 12:12 Comments || Top||

#6  add Symantic (Norton) to the list
Posted by: Mercutio || 02/24/2018 12:49 Comments || Top||

#7  Who joins the NRA for the fab partnership discounts?

Exactly.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 02/24/2018 12:52 Comments || Top||

#8  I expect nobody does, but they just gave NRA members the finger after actively seeking their business.
Posted by: Frank G || 02/24/2018 13:20 Comments || Top||

#9  Well, that's freedom of association. Also known as discrimination (in the dictionary definition sense, not the >raycissm!< sense). It's Constitutionally protected. The people doing the discriminating in this case should be reminded about that Constitutional part at every opportunity.
Posted by: M. Murcek || 02/24/2018 14:21 Comments || Top||

#10  Texas even has a website to help you avoid them.

Could you kindly share the link, please?
Posted by: Ho Chi Clineck4969 || 02/24/2018 15:19 Comments || Top||

#11  Texas3006.com search for business or location and it tells you if it's posted. There's an app too but it's more useful when walking around than checking a destination.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 02/24/2018 15:53 Comments || Top||

#12  Companies cutting ties w/NRA #IStandWithNRA
1. @MetLife
2. @symantec
3. @BestWestern
4. @Wyndham
5. @Alamo
6. @NationalPro
7. @Enterprise
8. @FNBOmaha
9. @Hertz
10. @Budget
11. @Avis
12. @NortonOnline
13. @northAmericanVL
14. @SimpliSafe
15. @ChubbNA
16. @Delta
17. @Truucar
Posted by: newc || 02/24/2018 16:18 Comments || Top||

#13  I don't use any of em anyway. Gave up cable because I'm not putting money in NFL or Murdoch's pocket, not paying coolbear or oliver or kimmel or shep smith or bret bair or any of their salaries
Posted by: M. Murcek || 02/24/2018 16:39 Comments || Top||

#14  I am fine voting with my pocketbook
Posted by: Blossom Hupager6063 || 02/24/2018 17:44 Comments || Top||



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