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-Short Attention Span Theater-
A Dick Gephardt we haven’t seen before!
I am not soft on the War on Terror!The following photo from Yahoo is making the blogosphere rounds today and is definitely your levity for the day. Not for those who don’t enjoy base humor.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/031201/480/dcn10412012304

Check out the ribald comments at the source "A Small Victory".
I was going to say something really lewd and tasteless, but Michele's readers beat me to it. Of course, the pic's pretty lewd and tasteless without any comments...
Posted by: ColoradoConservative || 12/02/2003 5:29:58 PM || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Gephardt's new motto - "Walk softly and carry a big stick."
Posted by: Anonymous || 12/02/2003 17:34 Comments || Top||

#2  He'll do anything to get your vote.
Posted by: handjive || 12/02/2003 17:36 Comments || Top||

#3  # 3 Dick Gephardt trolling for campaign dollars in the Castro District.
Posted by: SouthDakotaboy || 12/02/2003 17:59 Comments || Top||

#4  Always thought he was an alien, and now we have proof that he's a Centauri. Couldn't have guessed from the haircut, though...
Posted by: Mr. Garibaldi || 12/02/2003 18:12 Comments || Top||

#5  I think this photo says it all about Democratic presidential hopeful Rep. Dick Gephardt(D)... better known as 'Babs-bitch' or the 'Nancy-boy', shown here as his true self... just a shadow of a Dick reaching for a handout...

Actually... the left hand looks kinda phallic... maybe if Nancy Pelosi(D) would whip his ass again 'Dick' could cast a less flaccid shadow?
Posted by: DANEgerus || 12/02/2003 18:18 Comments || Top||

#6  Hey,it worked for Clinton.
Posted by: Stephen || 12/02/2003 20:27 Comments || Top||

#7  They don't call him Dick for nothing...
Posted by: Rawsnacks || 12/02/2003 22:06 Comments || Top||

#8  Well he is seting the stage. Any applications for interns..................
Posted by: Muslim || 12/02/2003 22:14 Comments || Top||

#9  Snap-on tool
Posted by: Lucky || 12/03/2003 1:12 Comments || Top||


a thank you - to all of our service Men & Women
I did not write this . . . and would like to know who did - to thank them.
TWAS THE NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS, HE LIVED ALL ALONE,
IN A ONE BEDROOM HOUSE MADE OF PLASTER AND STONE.
I HAD COME DOWN THE CHIMNEY WITH PRESENTS TO GIVE,
AND TO SEE JUST WHO IN THIS HOME DID LIVE.
I LOOKED ALL ABOUT, A STRANGE SIGHT I DID SEE,
NO TINSEL, NO PRESENTS, NOT EVEN A TREE.
NO STOCKING BY MANTLE, JUST BOOTS FILLED WITH SAND,
ON THE WALL HUNG PICTURES OF FAR DISTANT LANDS.
WITH MEDALS AND BADGES, AWARDS OF ALL KINDS,
A SOBER THOUGHT CAME THROUGH MY MIND.
FOR THIS HOUSE WAS DIFFERENT, IT WAS DARK AND DREARY,
I FOUND THE HOME OF A SOLDIER, AT ONCE I COULD SEE CLEARLY.
THE SOLDIER LAY SLEEPING, SILENT, ALONE,
CURLED UP ON THE FLOOR IN THIS ONE BEDROOM HOME.
THE FACE WAS SO GENTLE, THE ROOM IN SUCH DISORDER,
NOT HOW I PICTURED A UNITED STATES SOLDIER.
WAS THIS THE HERO OF WHOM I’D JUST READ?
CURLED UP ON A PONCHO, THE FLOOR FOR A BED?
I REALIZED THE FAMILIES THAT I SAW ON THIS NIGHT,
OWED THEIR LIVES TO THESE SOLDIERS WHO WERE WILLING TO FIGHT.
SOON ROUND THE WORLD, THE CHILDREN WOULD PLAY,
AND GROWNUPS WOULD CELEBRATE A BRIGHT CHRISTMAS DAY.
THEY ALL ENJOYED FREEDOM EACH MONTH OF THE YEAR,
BECAUSE OF THE SOLDIERS, LIKE THE ONE LYING HERE.
I COULDN’T HELP WONDER HOW MANY LAY ALONE,
ON A COLD CHRISTMAS EVE IN A LAND FAR FROM HOME.
THE VERY THOUGHT BROUGHT A TEAR TO MY EYE,
I DROPPED TO MY KNEES AND STARTED TO CRY.
THE SOLDIER AWAKENED AND I HEARD A ROUGH VOICE,
"SANTA DON’T CRY, THIS LIFE IS MY CHOICE; I FIGHT FOR FREEDOM,
I DON’T ASK FOR MORE, MY LIFE IS MY GOD, MY COUNTRY, MY CORPS."
THE SOLDIER ROLLED OVER AND DRIFTED TO SLEEP,
I COULDN’T CONTROL IT, I CONTINUED TO WEEP.
I KEPT WATCH FOR HOURS, SO SILENT AND STILL
AND WE BOTH SHIVERED FROM THE COLD NIGHT’S CHILL.
I DIDN’T WANT TO LEAVE ON THAT COLD, DARK, NIGHT,
THIS GUARDIAN OF HONOR SO WILLING TO FIGHT.
THEN THE SOLDIER ROLLED OVER, WITH A VOICE SOFT AND PURE,
WHISPERED, "CARRY ON SANTA, IT’S CHRISTMAS DAY, ALL IS SECURE."
ONE LOOK AT MY WATCH, AND I KNEW HE WAS RIGHT.

"MERRY CHRISTMAS MY FRIEND, AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT."

This poem was written by a Marine stationed in Okinawa Japan. The following is his request.
“Would you do me the kind favor of sending this to as many people as you can?”
Posted by: KC || 12/02/2003 2:51:05 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Bravo!
Posted by: Atrus || 12/02/2003 16:40 Comments || Top||

#2  This was posted here just a little while back, and attributed differently as I recall.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/02/2003 17:25 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan
Voter registration began in Afghanistan this week
Voter registration starts this week in eight cities across Afghanistan ahead of the country’s national elections next year, according to the United Nations mission there. A spokesman for the UN Assistance Mission in Afghanistan (UNAMA) told a press briefing yesterday in the capital Kabul that the registration will occur in schools in Kabul, Bamiyan, Jalalabad, Kunduz, Mazar-i-Sharif, Herat, Kandahar and Gardez, with separate sites for men and women to register.
They want to make sure nobody gets laid when they go to register. I can understand. Happens to me all the time when I go register to vote...
Spokesman Manoel de Almeida e Silva said that every Afghan citizen who is 18 or older by 20 June 2004 is eligible to be a registered voter, adding that voter registration must be done in person.
But you can't get laid.
General elections for the national parliament and the presidency are due to be held next year in Afghanistan. Last month a draft constitution for the war-ravaged nation was unveiled.
Good news, except for the whole "separate but equal" registration sites for men and women...

I have no idea where little Afghans come from, the adults spend so much time being kept apart. One thing I'm sure of, though: little Afghans aren't a product of the voter registration process.
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 12/02/2003 12:48:33 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Good news, except for the whole "separate but equal" registration sites for men and women...

In what little experience I have in shopping, this may be a good idea.
Posted by: Dragon Fly || 12/02/2003 12:54 Comments || Top||

#2  LMAO, Fred that was some brilliant commentary you added ;)
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 12/02/2003 13:30 Comments || Top||

#3  All I ever get is a little "I voted" sticker, a lollipop, and a warm fuzzy feeling...maybe I'm voting in the wrong precinct.
Posted by: Seafarious || 12/02/2003 14:20 Comments || Top||

#4  Damn! You get a lollipop?

Boy. Do I feel cheated.
Posted by: Fred || 12/02/2003 15:57 Comments || Top||

#5  I get cookies and a cup of Sprite when I give blood. It's an even swap.
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/02/2003 17:42 Comments || Top||


Britain
New terror arrests in London
Four terror suspects have been arrested in dawn swoops in London.
Hurrah!
Six homes and three business addresses were raided by anti-terrorist police in south-west London. Four men aged, 28, 29, 29 and 32 were arrested under the Terrorism Act and are being held on suspicion of involvement in the commission, preparation or instigation of act of terrorism. They are being quizzed at a central London police station.
"Nigel! Did that North African fellow fall down the stairs again?"
"Yes, Percy. I fear he did."
"Tusk tusk. How clumsy. You must keep a closer eye on him."
A police spokeswoman would not comment on whether the arrests were linked to last week’s anti-terrorist detentions.
"Wot the 'ell do you think?"
Three men were arrested in raids in Birmingham, Gloucester and Manchester last week. Two of the men were released.
... with implants.
But Sajid Badat, 24, who was arrested in Gloucester, is still be quizzed by police over possible links to al Qaeda. Gloucestershire Police are continuing a forensic search of his home after the alleged discover of a "relatively small amount" of explosives.
A coupla shoes' worth...
Police now have until Wednesday to continue questioning him. They must then charge of release him. Meanwhile, six men detained last week by Sussex police under anti-terrorism legislation remain in custody. The men, of North African origin and all in their mid-20s, were detained by officers investigating a "large scale" cheque and credit card fraud.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 12/02/2003 8:04:52 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The men, of North African origin and all in their mid-20s, were detained by officers investigating a "large scale" cheque and credit card fraud.

A favorite hobby of jihadis worldwide, apparently.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 12/02/2003 8:14 Comments || Top||

#2  easier than working
Posted by: Frank G || 12/02/2003 8:40 Comments || Top||

#3  Doesn't it seem conincidental that Bush agrees to send the Gitmo based British jihadis back to the UK and they start getting "real" serious about their internal jihadis?? I think this is a reflection on the Admins. real posture herer with these countrys - you must be more forceful in Europe and Australia and we will start to be more welcome to repatriation for your own judicial process.
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 12/02/2003 10:05 Comments || Top||

#4  Two of the men were released... with implants.

Great. Just when you thought things couldn't get any worse we have large-breasted transvestite Muslim terrorists to worry about.

But then that presents the opportunity to solve the problem using "honor killings", doesn't it?
Posted by: Dar || 12/02/2003 16:03 Comments || Top||

#5  Repatriate all the Jihadis except to countries identified as States that Sponsor terrorism. If any of these clowns are retaken in the war on terror, the country that the clown was repatriated to goes on the list immediately - no questions asked. I don't care which countries get their economies gutted by ending up on the list. I spend all day chasing UAW workers about an assembly line; this activity always puts a drain on my sympathy quotient.
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/02/2003 18:16 Comments || Top||


Protestant Leader: N. Ireland Deal Flawed
"Flawed" means they're going to kick it to pieces. It's part of the lefty vernacular...
The strongest Protestant party in Northern Ireland told the province’s British governor Monday that ``the flaws’’ of the 1998 peace accord must be corrected in new negotiations. The hard-line Democratic Unionists, who triumphed in last Wednesday’s elections to the Northern Ireland Assembly, spent an hour with Northern Ireland Secretary Paul Murphy, who described their talks as ``positive and useful.’’
"They didn’t brandish anything bigger than a 9 mm."
Party raving moonbat leader Ian Paisley - a bloody fiery terror supporter orator who has spent the past four decades terrorizing campaigning against compromise with the Irish Catholic minority in this British territory - read a prepared statement afterward and refused to answer reporters’ questions.
"You guys are ucky."
He said his party impressed on Murphy the need for multiparty negotiations ``to address all the flaws of the old agreement, enable us to reach our objectives and achieve all the goals we have set.’’
"Which include putting those evil Papists back in their place!"
Before the meeting, Paisley stressed that his party would not form any kind of administration involving Sinn Fein, the Irish Republican Army-linked terrorist party that is now the major Catholic-backed party. ``I don’t accept the principle that we must sit down with armed terrorists who have enough weapons in their possession to blow up the whole of Northern Ireland."
Funny, they think pretty much the same thing about you. Wonder how that happened?
Britain, Ireland and the three other major political parties in Northern Ireland insist that the Good Friday agreement of 1998 is an internationally binding treaty that cannot be renegotiated, only ``reviewed.’’ This review is tentatively scheduled to begin next month, and may involve Democratic Unionist negotiators remaining in a separate room from Sinn Fein.
Good idea, it’ll keep the homicide rate down.
``It is not going to be an easy few weeks and months ahead of us. It is going to be a big challenge because of what has happened,’’ Murphy said, referring to the election results. Murphy said he wouldn’t convene the 108-seat Assembly until the review concludes. Once formed, it would wield the power to create - or, if lawmakers prefer, prevent - a joint Catholic-Protestant administration for this territory of 1.7 million. The Good Friday accord stipulates that an administration requires majority support from both the British Protestant and Irish Catholic sides of the house.
Direct rule might not be so bad.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/02/2003 1:13:18 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This is what Blair gets for his blatant patronizing of Sinn Fein (aka IRA). It p**sed off the mainstream protestants and they snub Trimble. On the other hand the Republicans see more acceptance of the IRA/Sinn Fein and drift back from the SDLP to that extreme. This will get more nasty, IMHO, before it gets better - next census - when catholics outnumber protestants.
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 12/02/2003 10:10 Comments || Top||

#2  Forget about demographic shifts and the destiny of an untenable position in Northern Ireland, it's Blair's fault for dealing with a legitmate political movement. Who do you intend to negotiate with if not Sinn Fein?
Posted by: Brian || 12/02/2003 10:26 Comments || Top||

#3  Who do you intend to negotiate with if not Sinn Fein?

Sounds like Palestine with peat bogs...
Posted by: Pappy || 12/02/2003 15:09 Comments || Top||

#4  Sounds like Palestine with peat bogs...

LOL gonna steal that line.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/02/2003 15:20 Comments || Top||


Europe
French arrest 4 men linked to al-Qaeda
French authorities have arrested four men at a Riviera resort on suspicion of having aided a member of the Al Qaeda network.

Police sources say two of the suspects are Algerians and one is French, while the nationality of the fourth is not immediately known.

The four have been arrested in the south-eastern Mediterranean town of Menton.

They are suspected of providing shelter to a man who belonged to an Al Qaeda cell believed to have been under the control of Osama bin Laden’s son and who was preparing to return to Afghanistan.

The man’s identity has not been revealed.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 12/02/2003 9:02:11 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


WJC Puts Shelved EU Anti-Semitism Study on Web
The World Jewish Congress made public Tuesday a disputed anti-Semitism report kept under wraps by the European Union and accused the EU of not facing up to anti-Jewish sentiment among Muslim immigrants in Europe. The report was also posted on at least one European news Web site, that of Danish television station TV2 (http://gfx.tv2.dk/images/Nyhederne/Pdf/report_en.pdf).
Homie says check it out. Looks like a non-controverisial collection of easily verifiable facts to me.
The EUMC has denied accusations in the European press that it had shelved the report because it singled out Muslims immigrants and pro-Palestinian groups as the main culprits. "We think the failure of the EU to release it until now was an act of intellectual dishonesty and cowardice," said Elan Steinberg, executive vice president of the WJC.
Cowardice - from EU bureaucrats? Never!
"To be candid, I think they are not prepared to deal with the sensitive subject of rogue regimes with weapons of mass destruction or reality in general, anti-Semitism among Muslims, who constitute Europe’s largest minority," he told Reuters in a phone interview from his New York office.
Besides, the Brits, Spaniards and Italians cornered the EU market on spines. Nothing left for the bureaucrats in Brussels (nematodes-R-us).
A statement on the EUMC Web site said the study, drawn up by the respected Center for Research on Anti-Semitism at Berlin’s Technical University, was withheld because it was substandard and would be reworked before being issued early next year. The Berlin center has denied its work was flawed.
You would think the German’s would know a thing or two about anti-Semitism.
In the report as posted on the Internet, the Berlin center said a rise in anti-Semitic violence in the first half of 2002 was committed primarily by right-wing extremists, radical Islamists and young Muslims, mainly of Arab descent.
Surprise! How much did they get paid for this study anyway? Talk about a government job... I suppose there’s and outside chance the perpetrators could have been midgets and Rastafarians.
"Many of these attacks occurred either during or after pro-Palestinian demonstrations and after the weekly call to jihad at the local mosques, which were also used by radical Islamists for hurling verbal abuse," it said. The report noted anti-Semitic remarks heard at pro- Palestinian and anti-globalization rallies and added: "Often this generated a combination of anti-Zionist and anti-American views that formed an important element in the emergence of an anti-Semitic mood in Europe."
In the US most people call them wackos. In Europe they’re opinion leaders.
Posted by: NotAJew || 12/02/2003 6:52:02 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Here is the link in archiveable format.
Posted by: Dishman || 12/02/2003 19:07 Comments || Top||


Turkey Police Question Suspects
A few additional details from al-Jaz. EFL:
Turkey said yesterday the suicide bombers responsible for last month’s carnage in Istanbul were linked to the Al-Qaeda network as police questioned a key suspect and 21 other Turks handed over by Syria. “According to current information, those who were involved in the incidents as suicide bombers and people who are related to them are seen as close to Al-Qaeda,” Deputy Prime Minister Abdullatif Sener told reporters. Some of those detained are believed to have links with Azad Ekinci, who investigators suspect was a key planner of the November bombings. Ekinci has reportedly escaped Turkey and was not among the 22 expelled by Syria.
I’ll bet he went back to Iran.
NTV television published a list of the names of those detained, saying they would probably soon be transferred to Istanbul for further questioning. The majority of the suspects had been receiving a religious education in Syria, NTV said.
Humm, couldn’t get a scholarship to a good Pakistan school?
“Serious and disciplined work by our security forces brought results,” Sener told reporters. But he declined to give any details of the Syria operation.
"I can say no more."
Press reports have said the bombers and their accomplices belonged to Al-Qaeda cells in Turkey, while officials have said they might have acted as “sub-contractors” for Osama Bin Laden’s network.
Local franchise operators.
Investigators in the border province of Hatay questioned a man believed to be key to the attacks, his wife and 20 other Turks who were rounded up in Syria and extradited to Turkey on Sunday as part of the expanding investigation. Hatay Governor Abdulkadir Sari said the 20 suspects apprehended along with the Tugluoglu couple were “Turkish nationals attending religious schools in Syria, some of whom are under 18,” the Anatolia news agency reported.
Syrian madrassas? That’s a new one to me.
Hurriyet newspaper said Turkish Foreign Minister Abdullah Gul had personally pressed Damascus to hand over the suspects in an appeal that recalled Ankara’s bid to have Kurdish rebel leader Abdullah Ocalan expelled from Syria in 1998. But in 1998 Damascus acted only after Turkey threatened war. This time, analysts said, Syria and Turkey worked closely together, building on a thaw that began with Ocalan’s expulsion.
Guess Syria remembers that threat.
Posted by: Steve || 12/02/2003 4:21:56 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Spain’s Defense Minister: Pulling out of Iraq ’would betray the victims’
Hanging tough in Spain. EFL
Spain’s Defence Minister, Federico Trillo, said Monday withdrawing troops from Iraq would be "betraying the victims". His comments came as Spain prepared for the state funerals on Tuesday of the seven secret agents who were killed in Iraq in an ambush on Saturday.
They were saying on the radio this morning that they thought the killings were an inside job. The seven had actually changed their itinerary at the last moment. Mahmoud the Weasel sold them out.
Speaking in Madrid, Trillo said: "We are fighting for the values that exist in Spain: peace, liberty and democracy. We have to show solidarity with those that believe in these values - even more so now that Spaniards have lost their lives there in defence of the same rights and liberties." The minister insisted that the situation in Iraq "has not got worse".
It's been worse. It'll probably get even worse before it gets better. But it'll get better...
"It has got worse for the terrorists, but not for the the citizens," he said. "These savages are against normalisation - exactly what they don’t tolerate, and that’s why they act with more strength when things improve."
He’s been reading Rantburg.
Speaking of the secret service agents who died, Trillo said: "They are very prepared, very orientated and conscious and also very much in line with the atmosphere of the country." He said that Spain was receiving "warnings persistently" about threats of resistance attacks as it was part of the "hard core of the international coalition against terrorism."
Thank you, Spain.

These are the guys who invented Macho. Glad to see they've still got it.
Posted by: Seafarious || 12/02/2003 11:32:34 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Not only would it betray the victims of the ambush it would also betray the victims of the former regime and any future victims if Saddam was ever allowed to regain power.
Posted by: Cheddarhead || 12/02/2003 12:13 Comments || Top||

#2  Spain's got its own Andalusian problem. Hang tough in Iraq, hang tough at home.

Their soldiers are getting the practice they and we unfortunately might need.
Posted by: Anonymous || 12/02/2003 13:12 Comments || Top||

#3  Details on the attack: Officials suspect that seven Spanish intelligence agents slain in Iraq were betrayed by one of their contacts, who may have tipped off their killers, the defense minister said Tuesday. In Saturday's attack, eight Spaniards were returning from Baghdad to the Spanish base in Diwaniyah when they were ambushed by gunmen on a road 18 miles south of the Iraqi capital. One agent survived. The group of Spaniards -- four agents due to return home and four others replacing them -- had gone to Baghdad apparently so the new agents could meet "information sources," the newspaper El Pais reported Tuesday, quoting sources in Spain's National Intelligence Center.

Went to introduce them to their Iraqi contacts.

Defense Minister Federico Trillo said the attack probably was linked to the October shooting of Spanish intelligence agent Jose Antonio Bernal. In that attack, the gunnmen knew where Bernal lived in Baghdad. The assailants knocked on the front door of his house and killed him as he ran down the street trying to flee. "So there may have been a tip-off or betrayal by someone in that community, which is never entirely controllable," Trillo told Spanish National Radio on Monday, apparently referring to Iraqis who worked with or knew the Spaniards.

Yup, they were sold out. Hope they had left records of who they were going to go see. The Spanish will want to look them up and introduce them to some old Spanish customs.

Spain had received several threats prior to Saturday's attack and the agents knew their trip was risky, Trillo said. News reports said the Defense Ministry's suspicion of a betrayal was fueled by the fact that the agents made last-minute changes Saturday, beginning their journey earlier and taking a different route than planned.

Did everything right, but it wasn't enough.


The daily El Mundo cited evidence given by the survivor of the attack, Jose Manuel Sanchez Riera, that the agents had been traveling in two vehicles and came under fire from a car behind them. During the shootout, the agents were also attacked from a nearby settlement.

They were most likely followed by some guys with a cell phone, set up a ambush ahead of them and let their buddies know when they drove into the kill zone.
Posted by: Steve || 12/02/2003 16:37 Comments || Top||

#4  Somalia lesson - don't ever flinch or the nextattack will be bigger.
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/02/2003 18:27 Comments || Top||


The UN plays hardall: Bosnian Serb gets 27 years for massacre
EFL & UNfunny
United Nations war crimes clown college judges have jailed a Bosnian Serb former army commander for 27 years for his role in the 1995 Srebrenica massacre of up to 8,000 Muslims.
27 years for killing 8K people. Oooo, there really getting tough now.
It is a stiffer sentence than even prosecutors had requested.
‘No, really, we thought a few months would do the trick!’
That's nearly 1.25 days per dead guy.
Under the plea deal, prosecutors agreed to request a 15-20 year sentence and the defence said it would recommend 10 years.
And little Weasly Clark wants Sammy and Binny to be charged with war crimes? Good idea!
But Judge Liu Daqun said neither term was sufficient.
Big, tough, UN judgespeak alert:
"Neither sentence adequately reflects the totality of the criminal conduct for which Momir Nikolic has been convicted," the judge told the court, saying the Srebrenica massacre was "committed with a level of brutality and depravity not seen previously in conflict in former Yugoslavia".
Let’s hope we kill Sammy and Binny. Clearly this is the only justice fitting these warlocks.
Posted by: Dragon Fly || 12/02/2003 10:44:46 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Funny how a couple of years can change you. I'm seriously reconsidering whether it was a good thing for US to interfere in Bosnia.
Posted by: BH || 12/02/2003 10:53 Comments || Top||

#2  And we are still there WHY????

I thought the EUs were so into their own security/military.

How many troops do we have there?
Posted by: SamIII || 12/02/2003 11:17 Comments || Top||

#3  "27 years for killing 8K people. Oooo, there really getting tough now. "

Well, given how several people here want to give Putin a medal for killing atleast five times as many in Chechenya...

"I thought the EUs were so into their own security/military"

Bosnia isn't part of the EU.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 12/02/2003 12:21 Comments || Top||

#4  Bosnia isn't part of the EU.

It's not part of NATO, either. But who dealt with the problem?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 12/02/2003 12:38 Comments || Top||

#5  The Eeeewwww sure debated it to death as if it was their problem. They just didn't DO dick about it except talk... and talk... and talk... oh, I left out all the hand-wringing and anguished speeches... and then some more talk... It was truly an impressive effort performance.
Posted by: .com || 12/02/2003 12:55 Comments || Top||

#6  "But who dealt with the problem?"

Since EU currently has no military capability or authority, in what way would you have wanted it to deal with the problem? By mocking the Serbs most severely?

You people can't have it both ways. You can't *both* condemn the EU for not having a defense capacity and at the same time attack them as "betraying NATO" (or whatever) when they enter deliberations to create one.

"They just didn't DO dick about it except talk"

No EU army, no authority in the treaties for military initiatives on the EU level = no capability of any military action.

I'm in favour of an EU army. Are you?
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 12/02/2003 13:07 Comments || Top||

#7  Yes - we can have it both ways. You've been free-riding for 50 years. You wasted the savings on becoming backward socialist economic deadweight. Want an Eeewww Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, and SpecOps? Sure, go for it. The free ride is over anyway. We have no need of voyeur-critics. Those who are our true allies will be there when the heat's on, as they know we would be for them. The rest of Eeewww? Hey, knock yourselves out. Just don't call us - we'll decide where and when and for whom we fight.
Posted by: .com || 12/02/2003 13:29 Comments || Top||

#8  You people can't have it both ways. You can't *both* condemn the EU for not having a defense capacity and at the same time attack them as "betraying NATO" (or whatever) when they enter deliberations to create one.

And yet Europe demands to have it both ways, itself: dependence on a militarily strong United States while simultaneously lecturing the US about our "warlike ways".

And, Aris, it's quite possible for Europe to strengthen its military without leaving NATO or creating a competing military structure. Oddly, the US has been doing just that for decades; strengthening our military while staying inside NATO.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 12/02/2003 14:00 Comments || Top||

#9  "Want an Eeewww Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, and SpecOps? Sure, go for it. "

First of all stop sounding like a kindergarten bully, with mockery of names rather than arguments. You sound like the people like the people who constantly used "Sodamn" rather than Saddam. Once is cute, then it becomes tiresome.

Secondly, you missed my point. To repeat myself more clearly: *Did* you want the EU to do something about it, or didn't you? If the former then you must have wanted the EU to take on military responsibilities, there's no sidestepping the issue here. And not just that, but you must also want the idea of the national veto on EU decisions to be abandoned.

So choose. What is it? Do you want the EU to have the authority and power to intervene if a similar event occured or don't you?

"we'll decide where and when and for whom we fight"

*nods* Just like you always did.

"And, Aris, it's quite possible for Europe to strengthen its military without leaving NATO or creating a competing military structure. "

Strengthen its military? Yes, ofcourse. But I thought we were discussing about EU making decisions of a military nature?

Or are you people still having trouble distinguishing between individual European countries and decisions taken on the EU level?

If so, then you are morons.

.com> "And yet Europe demands to have it both ways, itself: dependence on a militarily strong United States while simultaneously lecturing the US about our 'warlike ways'. "

I don't remember the EU lecturing the US about your warlike ways. Perhaps you are again thinking about individual countries.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 12/02/2003 19:23 Comments || Top||

#10  What was preventing the individual "nations", which the EU is comprised of, from going into Bosnia alone or in concert with one another?
Posted by: LeftEnd || 12/02/2003 23:35 Comments || Top||


Turkey bomb suspects ’took orders from al-Zawahiri’
Two key suspects in the Istanbul suicide bombings, in which 61 people died, took instructions from Osama bin Laden’s right-hand man, newspapers reported today. Hurriyet newspaper said main suspects Habib Aktas and Azad Ekinci met with bin Laden’s top surviving lieutenant, Ayman al-Zawahiri, several times. The two Turks are suspected of hatching the plans for the suicide bombings on November 15 against two synagogues and on the British Consulate and a British bank five days later. “They were the only ones to meet with Al-Zawahiri,” Hurriyet quoted one suspect, identified as Yusuf Polat, as telling police during questioning. “The instructions came from him. They would meet (with him) at least three times a year, using false identity documents.”
Met him at a safe house in Iran, perhaps?
The reports came a day after Deputy Prime Minister Abdullatif Sener told reporters following a Cabinet meeting that “those who were involved in these terrorist attacks as suicide bombers, and those who had relations with them 
 are linked to the al-Qaida terrorist organisation”.
Can’t get much higher a link than al-Zawahiri unless you have a ouija board.
At least three claims of responsibility for the bombings purportedly came from al-Qaida. The government had been hesitant to name al-Qaida and Sener’s statement was the first time the government directly linked the attacks to bin Laden’s network. Al-Zawahiri, an Egyptian doctor, is believed to be bin Laden’s chief deputy.The man identified as Polat was captured while trying to travel into Iran and charged over the weekend with a crime equivalent to treason.
Trying to follow his leaders?
Newspapers have said he confessed to belonging to a small al-Qaida cell in Turkey. Police said he surveyed the site for one of the synagogue bombings and gave the go-ahead for the attack. The man’s arrest was the most prominent to date in the investigation into the attacks.
Order a extra case of truncheons.
Police believe that Aktas, Ekinci and four other suspected ringleaders of a Turkish cell linked to al-Qaida, fled abroad just before the attacks, Cumhuriyet newspaper reported.
The big shots always do.
Posted by: Steve || 12/02/2003 9:34:29 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Can’t get much higher a link than al-Zawahiri unless you have a ouija board."

heh heh - I like that one, Steve. Every day Bin Laden doesn't stand up and do a provably new video convinces me his DNA is buried in Tora Bora rubble
Posted by: Frank G || 12/02/2003 10:02 Comments || Top||

#2  Is Turkey going to tighten up that border with Iran? Earlier stories pointed out that it was effectively wide open. Now that Iran is "holding" AlQ types and Turkey just felt the effects of having a "good neighbor" policy with the Black Hats - will they get a clue?
Posted by: .com || 12/02/2003 10:16 Comments || Top||

#3  Additional from AP: On Monday, a Moroccan source told The Associated Press in Rabat that a senior al-Qaida operative suspected of ordering a deadly terrorist attack in Casablanca earlier this year may also have been behind bombings in Turkey.
Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, whom the CIA has described as a close associate of bin Laden, is believed to have played a role in attacks in Istanbul, said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
Al-Zarqawi was identified by Moroccan authorities in July as the mastermind of a wave of suicide bombings that killed 33 bystanders and 12 suicide bombers in Casablanca in May.
Posted by: Steve || 12/02/2003 10:27 Comments || Top||

#4  At a certain point the international community will tire of having AQ operatives fleeing to Syria and planning operations from Iran. Call us when you decide that enough is enough.
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/02/2003 18:34 Comments || Top||


Turk has sound political reasons to blame al-Qaeda
It would make good political sense for Turkey to stress al-Qaeda and not Hezbollah for these four acts of terrorism. Not that it means much as al-Qaeda as the writer states is more an ideology then a movement now.
Probably *someone* provided the manpower and money and al-Qaeda the expert. That *someone* I doubt the Turkish government will be rushing to find.

The Turkish Government has given its strongest indication yet that it blames al-Qaeda for last month's bomb attacks. Deputy Prime Minister Abdullatif Sener said that the bombers and those related to them seem to be linked to Osama Bin Laden's network. Speaking after a cabinet meeting, Mr Sener said that 21 people had been charged in connection with the bombing so far. Another 16 were still being questioned, in custody. He did not go into detail on the al-Qaeda connection - the government had previously named it as only "one of the possibilities".
Posted by: bernardz || 12/02/2003 6:48:04 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The BBC doesn't realize that there are a lot of secularists in Turkey (for example the entire officer core of the Army) who would like nothing better than to eradicate Hezbollah. Yes, there are Islamists of different shapes and sizes within the legislature, the mosques, etc. But the BBC's view of Turkey is almost as biased as their view of the US.
Posted by: mhw || 12/02/2003 8:03 Comments || Top||


German Leader Vows One-China Policy
Citing his country’s own turbulent history, German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder affirmed his support Tuesday for the Beijing leadership’s most frequently touted diplomatic principle - the ``one-China policy’’ that insists Taiwan is part of the mainland.
Taiwan set themselves up for this sort of thing. The country used to insist that the mainland was part of it. They used to describe themselves of "a province of the Republic of China." West and East Germany, on the other hand, were two separate countries with two separate political systems and a single history. East Germany was an artificial construct, so when the Soviet Union hit the skids it evaporated. Austria and Switzerland, on the other hand, are both German-speaking countries with their own histories and traditions. (The U.S. and Canada are English-speaking countries, ditto.) If Taiwan — formerly a part of Imperial Japan — goes the independence route, it's no skin off my fore, and none off Gerhard's that I can see. The mainlanders can turn red in the face and hop up and down and threaten war, but that still doesn't justify grabbing off an entire country that by now has a different culture and has always had a vocal Taiwanese (non-Han) population. It's only the might that makes it right. I'm glad to see the Fritzies are taking such a principled stand.
Schroeder, touring China on a state visit, made the comments while meeting with Chinese and German business leaders in Beijing. ``We have experiences with what it means when a country is divided,’’ he said. ``We come to that position largely through our own history.’’
Remember why the two Germanys were separated, Gerhard? Something to do about a wall, right? Machine guns, barbed wire, moats, alligators, the whole shootin’ match.
Taiwan and mainland China separated in 1949 amid a civil war. Since then, although the island functions as a sovereign nation, the communist leadership in Beijing has claimed it as part of China and says it could go to war if Taiwan moves toward formal independence. Schroeder also said his position means that Germany will not send ``sensitive goods’’ like weapons to Taiwan, whose main military supplier is the United States - a nation that nonetheless has formal diplomatic ties with China.
"And we don’t want to be like the US."
China insists that its diplomatic partners renounce Taiwan sovereignty and trumpet their support of the ``one-China policy.’’
And Gerhard blows his horn!
By the way, anyone hear from TGA lately?
Posted by: Steve White || 12/02/2003 1:21:11 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
"We have experiences with what it means when a country is divided..."

Good lord. Is he suggesting that, as in Germany, the Communist half of the country should collapse and become one country under the authority of the free, democratic sides's system? How brave of him! That's a "One-China" unification vision we can all get behind! China united under Taiwan's system. Imagine the nerve it takes to defy the Chicoms like that by standing up to their one-party/nationalist firebreathing. What a pair of stones Shroeder has! I underestimated the man. At first I thought he was only cravenly sucking up to the Chicoms ;->
Posted by: Tokyo Taro || 12/02/2003 2:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Peking, fuck Beijing, can piss up the proverbial rope. Without its "experiment" in capitalism, the return of HK, and actions such as Germany's - it would eventually implode just as all of its ideological kindred have already done.

The communists are counting on our greed to maintain theirs.

Unlike the Eeeewwww, the US has not turned its back on Taiwan. As for the greed, it exists everywhere and the US has its share of asshats willing to sell the Taiwanese "down the river" for access to the Chinese "billions" - a joke given the avg annual income of a buck fifty. The US has, fortunately, not allowed its greedy corp shitheads to run our foreign policy, despite the claims of NaziMedia, and Taiwan is the proof.

The world needs Taiwan just to show what the Chinese people are capable of if they have a decent chance (democracy, entrepreneurial freedom, etc.) sans the failed absurdity of communism. Bankrupt in every way, without such changes as Germany's declaration and those that have already kow-towed, communism would have already killed the golden goose - and the people would have turned and killed the communists.

One China Policy = Gutless Greedy Mercantilism
Posted by: .com || 12/02/2003 2:55 Comments || Top||

#3  German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder affirmed his support Tuesday for the Beijing leadership’s most frequently touted diplomatic principle - the ``one-China policy’’ that insists Taiwan is part of the mainland. It would seem obvious to the most casual observer that an island by definition is not part of the mainland. Another obvious fact: appeasement = encouragement. Marx/Lenin speculated that capitalism would require imperialist expansion to survive. Does that mean that China is actually capitalist?
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/02/2003 4:56 Comments || Top||

#4  No real surprises here. Just as Germany's Nazi leadership sided with China's Cash My Check back in the 1930's over its ally, Japan, Germany's socialist leadership is siding with its communist brethren in Peking today. Germany is a sucker for unholy alliances.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 12/02/2003 9:49 Comments || Top||

#5  SH - of course China is capitalist. Whats the confusion here?
Posted by: liberalhawk || 12/02/2003 10:20 Comments || Top||

#6  Ein Reich, Ein Volk, Ein F- oops.
Posted by: Matt || 12/02/2003 12:10 Comments || Top||

#7  LH - It's not a matter of confusion but collusion. Clearer?
Posted by: .com || 12/02/2003 12:10 Comments || Top||

#8  minimal free markets and a crony-kleptocracy do not make a capitalist society. It's still overall control from the top and the economy operates as allowed by the Politburo. Should they decide to shut it down, even with all the hardships that would entail, they still could...
Posted by: Frank G || 12/02/2003 12:12 Comments || Top||

#9  ok granted i was oversimplifying, but it surely isnt a Leninist economy.

In any case it doesnt fit the model SH quotes, since China is a capital importing economy, and Lenin (NOT Marx) posited imperial expansion as the solution to a capital surplus economy.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 12/02/2003 13:04 Comments || Top||

#10  --We have experiences with what it means when a country is divided,’’ --

That's what happens when you get greedy. You're punished.

Why do I think they never, never learn?

Posted by: Anonymous || 12/02/2003 13:15 Comments || Top||

#11  .com

AFAIK the Taiwanese are NOT chinese. They were invaded during the 17th century by China. After only two hundred years of Chinese domination they were invaded by Japan. They became Chinese again in 1945 and the followers of Chiang Kai Tcheck retreated there in 1949, much to the displeasure of the real Taiwanese.

Taiwan is about as Chinese as Tibet ie NOT.
Posted by: JFM || 12/02/2003 15:50 Comments || Top||

#12  Liberalhawk,

It's classical corporatist fascism:

http://www.la-articles.org.uk/fascism.htm
Posted by: Ernest Brown || 12/02/2003 16:09 Comments || Top||

#13  “When in the course of human events…”
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 12/02/2003 16:43 Comments || Top||

#14  Taiwan, the last time I was there, which was awhile ago, was a Han governing class overlaying a Taiwanese plebs. I understand that's changed somewhat, since the Kuomintang quit being a dictatorship. But I'd say it's as Chinese now as Okinawa is Japanese.
Posted by: Fred || 12/02/2003 16:53 Comments || Top||

#15  LH, thank you for identifying the posit as coming from Lenin. The way I understood Lenin's prediuction on the fall of capitalism was that a capitalist society would need to continually expand to annex new raw materials and cheap labor to exploit.

The idea always struck me as kind of a play on mercantilism with an industrial revolution twist. The theory supposes that world economics is a zero sum game that will eventually collapse like a giant pyramid scam.

My observation was that China seemed to be expanding outward to all places that Chinese people currently live or have ever lived. If you exagerate this ridiculously beyond Taiwan, China would then claim all the are that the Khan's seized, grab the Panama Canal (because there is a Chinese contractor running it), and systematically annexing Chinatowns in American cities from San Fransico to Washington DC.

This exageration is only an illustration of my beleif that Taiwan was originally ethnically seperate from China and the only Chinese there are there for one reason - they or their families were refugees that didn't want to be ruled by Mao's governemt. I know the UK is reviewing it's system for granting refugee status, but I certainly don't want any part of Chinese refugees if that means their government can annex any area that grants them haven.
With North Korea begin to annex parts of China as its starving people flee Kim? The KMT hung out in Burma during WWII. China can't want Burma too. The place if rife with problems.
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/02/2003 19:01 Comments || Top||

#16  Same spin different group - don't the muslims consider the parts of Europe they conquered to be theirs? Even if they were defeated.
Posted by: Anonymous2U || 12/02/2003 21:19 Comments || Top||


Al-Qaeda attack in Kosovo ruled out
The president of Kosovo, an Albanian province of Serbia, has ruled out that alleged al-Qaeda militants could prepare attacks in the UN-administered region, in an interview published on Sunday. "The Kosovo Albanians and I condemn al-Qaeda’s actions but I do not believe that this organisation could be active in Kosovo in any way," Ibrahim Rugova told the Greek newspaper Kathimerini. He insisted there were no people linked to extremists in Kosovo, adding that he was aware of reports that such a threat could exist in the volatile region. "But this is unfounded," he added. "It could be that some people spread such allegations to destabilize Kosovo," he said. Rugova said that Kosovo was standing by the United States and European countries in the fight against extremist violence. The United Nations mission in Kosovo and NATO-led peacekeepers have increased security in the province after receiving a warning about an unspecified threat on Friday. Peacekeepers with the NATO-led force known as KFOR set-up extra checkpoints and stationed armoured vehicles on roads leading to most diplomatic offices, including those of the United States and Britain. Some 20,000 KFOR troops are stationed in Kosovo and are in charge of security in the province. Another 3,500 UN police and 6,000 local officers are responsible for law and order. "We now know that a specific threat has been made towards international organisations in Kosovo," KFOR spokesman Chris Thompson said.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 12/02/2003 12:52:12 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "The Kosovo Albanians and I condemn al-Qaeda’s actions but I do not believe that this organisation could be active in Kosovo in any way,"

"Nope, nope, nothing here to see, nope, nope, couldn't be us. Must be someone else."
Posted by: Steve White || 12/02/2003 0:56 Comments || Top||


Fifth Column
Decline And Fall/ How Islam captures the Left
Via Instapundit
The Belmont Club has long argued that "the hollowing out of the Left — the death of its Bolshevik core — is one of the great unwritten stories of the late twentieth century" (from Islam and the End of the Left).

The decline of the cadre of professional revolutionaries at its center was simultaneously matched by the inrush from the periphery of the network of sympathizers, fellow travelers and "useful fools" which it once adopted as protective coloration. It was a classic case of the inmates taking over an asylum from which the keepers had fled.

Belmont Club argued that the Left, now consisting of soft elements without a real core of professional revolutionaries to anchor it, would gradually lose its membership, beginning with its most radical wing, to Islam.

Islam ... will gain membership largely at the expense of Left ... That market share will be dominated by the party with the better product and the most competitive advantages ... Leftist attempts to compensate by allying themselves with Islam will only accelerate their downfall as the madrassas cannibalize the faltering socialist base. The weaker the Left becomes, the more dependent it is on alliances with Islam. The closer its alliances with Islam, the weaker the Left becomes. By and by, the Left will have nothing left to offer their allies. The Taliban did not even make a pretense of sparing the Revolutionary Association of Afghan Women from persecution.

That describes almost word for word, the fate of the Socialist moderates at the European Social Forum. And it will describe, even more accurately, the destiny of the European Left, which once proudly styled itself the "Vanguard of History", and which now finds itself staring up at a patch of ceiling from the bottom of an Islamic dustbin. Those who would inquire into the state of the Leftist church would do well to ask one of its saints, Ilich Ramirez Sanchez, better known as "Carlos the Jackal."

He has just published a book in French to announce his conversion to Islam and present his strategy for "the destruction of the United States through an orchestrated and persistent campaign of terror." Entitled "Revolutionary Islam" (Editions du Rocher, 2003) and published under the name Ilich Ramirez Sanchez-CARLOS, the book urges "all revolutionaries, including those of the left, even atheists," to accept the leadership of Islamists such as Osama bin Laden and so help turn Afghanistan and Iraq into the "graveyards of American imperialism."
So lets not let that happen. Say what HILLARY

The Communist enemy against which we fought; for which Rosenberg betrayed his country; for which Giap’s legions marched, fallen to this.
Note two things here: The enemy, to Carlos, isn't oppression. It's not poverty. It's not disease or ignorance or intolerance. It's the U.S. Any tool is appropriate to bash the Enemy, which is us.

The other thing to note is that the Vanguard of History is made up of followers. Carlos has decided he's a Muslim. It's what's revolutionary today. In his younger days he owned a Nehru jacket. If he'd lived 70 years ago he'd have been in the ranks at Neuremburg, marching in step to the Horst Wessel song, or rooting out kulaks in Ukraine. 100 years ago he'd have been trying to assassinate William McKinley or Archduke Ferdinand, take your pick. 220 years ago he'd have been cutting off Marie Antoinette's head.
Posted by: Lucky || 12/02/2003 11:27:01 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sounds like the "Moronic Convergence Theory" in action: all the world's crackpot ideologies coalescing into a single, undifferentiated mass of noxious stupidity.
Posted by: Dave D. || 12/02/2003 13:37 Comments || Top||

#2  Dave D.: This would be a most welcome development as we would only have to defeat the single movement as opposed to its many parts. Fire when ready.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 12/02/2003 15:44 Comments || Top||

#3  If you're in a French prison for the rest of your life, why not be a muslim and write popular books? Maybe the jihadi will prevent you from being everyone's le punk. If I were in a European jail, I might go the muslim route also. Trends show that you'll be a member of the largest demographic group filling the jails of the continent. You won't want for bridge partners.

Prediction - the next wave of Euro - prison viiolence will be Shia on Sunni and vice versa.

How come Eurasia is one land mass and gets to be two continents? Is this some kind of racist plot to keep the Turks from being Europeans?
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/02/2003 19:12 Comments || Top||


Whoops - Another False Quote Exposed
Here’s more proof that the anti-war movement can be funnier than a truckload of undocumented baloney.
Illinois state historian Thomas Schwartz hopes the Internet site will draw scholars checking the credibility of Lincoln quotes as well as curious browsers. Not all the Lincoln stories and documents they use are real, he said. "People will use them anyway, because it’s become part of a mythic image of Lincoln that we all feel comfortable with and that has just become something so familiar," Schwartz said. "We don’t want to give it up."

Maybe that’s understandable. After all, Lincoln himself said, "You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time." Well, actually, he didn’t say that. Allegedly part of a September 1858 speech delivered in Clinton, the sentence does not show up in the text printed in the local newspaper, Schwartz said. The best evidence available comes from two people recollecting about 1910 that he actually said it in 1856 in Bloomington, in his famous "Lost Speech" — so-called because no transcript of it was taken.

Here’s another fake Lincoln quote: "There’s no honorable way to kill, no gentle way to destroy. There’s nothing good in war except its ending." Attributed to Lincoln by anti-war protesters earlier this year, the statement actually was made by an actor portraying Lincoln in an episode of "Star Trek."
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/02/2003 4:38:31 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  My penchant for mispelling is almost as comical as quoting the Abe Lincoln that appeared on Star Trek.
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/02/2003 4:58 Comments || Top||

#2  So, uh, does that mean they should draft Roddenberry's script writers for Campaign 2004? Mebbe the anti-war people can goto http://www.roddenberry.com and study the "ideologies" espoused by the various scripts. Something semi-constructive for them to do.

Regards quotes, I think David Hannum (a banker) covered the anti crowd (ISM / ANSWER dupes and tools) with "There's a sucker born every minute." No, it wasn't PT Barnum. It was from the Cardiff Giant Hoax:
http://www.historybuff.com/library/refbarnum.html

My personal favorite:
Falsely attributed quote from Oscar Wilde on his deathbed:
"Either this wallpaper goes, or I do!"
Nope. Didn't say it. Would've been ubercool, but no joy.
Posted by: .com || 12/02/2003 5:00 Comments || Top||

#3  That episode would be "The Savage Curtain", which is one of the stinkier Star Trek episodes in existence (and one of the last of the Original Series). Morphing rock-beings force Kirk and Spock to land and, with rock-beings morphed into the shapes of Lincoln and Surak (the father of Vulcan logic), fight four rock-beings morphed into the shapes of legendary bad guys.

If I recall correctly, the mindset voiced by "Lincoln" gets him and "Surak" killed. The moral of the episode (ironically, in this context) is that evil is defeated when directly confronted by good.
Posted by: Angie Schultz || 12/02/2003 11:37 Comments || Top||

#4  the statement actually was made by an actor portraying Lincoln in an episode of "Star Trek."

This isn't a surprise. Most leftists and 'peace protesters' aren't very familiar with history. Other than what they get spoonfed by the conspiracy nuts and dipshits like chomsky, they've learned everything they know from watching movies (duuuude, books are lame spark it up!). Oliver Stone and mike moore are considered 'graduate studies'.
Posted by: everythingilearned || 12/02/2003 12:28 Comments || Top||

#5  Most leftists and 'peace protesters' aren't very familiar with history

That's a broad brush... but it sure as hell seems to be true. And we know that those that fail to learn their history are usually doing squat in practical math.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/02/2003 15:17 Comments || Top||

#6  That's a broad brush... but it sure as hell seems to be true.

They're either ignorant of history, or revising history to fit their agenda, which means they're liars. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they're just morons.
Posted by: everythingilearned || 12/02/2003 17:43 Comments || Top||

#7  #3 That episode would be "The Savage Curtain", which is one of the stinkier Star Trek episodes in existence (and one of the last of the Original Series). Morphing rock-beings force Kirk and Spock to land and, with rock-beings morphed into the shapes of Lincoln and Surak (the father of Vulcan logic), fight four rock-beings morphed into the shapes of legendary bad guys. If I recall correctly, the mindset voiced by "Lincoln" gets him and "Surak" killed. The moral of the episode (ironically, in this context) is that evil is defeated when directly confronted by good

I remember that episode. It presented the Klingon Kahless the Unforgettable as one of the great villains of all time, which is ironic in that, twenty years or so later, ST:TNG did a 180-degree turn and portrayed Kahless not only as a great hero, but as the savior of the latter-day Klingon Empire. BTW, did anyone ever figure out how to explain the differences in appearance of the Klingons in TOS and TNG?
Posted by: Joe || 12/02/2003 19:12 Comments || Top||


Great White North
Khadr the Younger admits training at al-Qaeda related camp
And just think, he could be in NYC in a day with his passport ...
Abdul Rahman Khadr admits learning to use assault weapons at an ”al-Qaeda related” training camp but insisted that such instruction was routine for teens in war-torn Afghanistan.
"All the other terrorist leaders’ kids were doing it!"
"Just think of it as the Boy Scouts, only with turbans and automatic weapons..."
He said that the camp was run by Arabs and that some graduates went on to fight the Northern Alliance and others travelled to foreign wars in Bosnia and Chechnya. The camp was never visited by Osama bin Laden while he was there, he said, and political instruction was not part of the curriculum.
Just the whole Wahhabi/Salafist "kill infidels" and "worldwide theocracy" shticks, but those were all taught in religious classes, not political ones. Beyond that you could either go fight the Great Satan directly or join an affiliate group. As far as Binny never visiting, the man has an international terrorist network to run, for God’s sake, you think he stops by every five minutes for tea with the cannon fodder?
Mr. Khadr — a Canadian citizen captured in Afghanistan and held by U.S. authorities in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, for more than a year — denied Monday that negative conclusions should be drawn from his training at such a camp.
You’ll forgive me if I politely disagree with him on this one.
He called the time he spent training “a waste of my life” but stressed that it was perfectly normal for youths in Afghanistan to learn to handle weapons. ”Every kid, when he’s around 15, goes to train,” he said.
"Otherwise they end up hanging around the malt shoppe and racing their camels up and down the street while they holler at girlies."
A few minutes later, badgered by reporters during a press conference in Toronto, he lashed out in exasperation.
Guess the Canuck press is doing at least some homework these days ...
”In the beginning, who were [the camps] made by? Americans. Who were they made by? By the West. Because of the war against the Russians in the very beginning, against the communists. It was very normal thing, everybody was supportive of what was happening in the very beginning when it was against communists,” he said. ”... Lots of the people who trained at these camps, they were not al-Qaeda. They [wanted] to come and fight against the Northern Alliance.”
Or the Russians or the Indians or the Filippinos or the southern Sudanese or the Algerian junta or the Uzbek dictator, ect. It’s that whole Armed Struggle(TM) thing ...
Mr. Khadr, now 20, said that he had been handed over to the Americans by a Northern Alliance commander — who, he said, detained him solely because he was an Arab and might thus be connected to al-Qaeda. After more than one year in the U.S. penal colony in Cuba he was told he would be released.
"Herb, I don't think this mutt's got anything left to spill."
"Hokay, Bob. Toss him the hell out. Why waste money feeding him?"
”I said I want to go to Canada, they said: ’Well, the Canadians don’t want to take you, so we’re going to take you back to where we captured you.’ ” Flown to Bagram Air Base, north of Kabul, with his ears and eyes covered, he was kept in complete isolation for the first 24 hours after his arrival. Only when his earphones and blindfold were removed, he said, did he realize that he was in Bagram, where he had been before. He said that the Americans handed him over to Afghan intelligence, who eventually released him.
One word: Why?
With no passport or money, he said he tapped old friends of his father, people who had access to power and influence.
Pakistani fundos like Qazi and Saeed or the good brass in VEVAK and the IRGC?
He borrowed enough money to be smuggled to Islamabad, where he was turned away by guards at the Canadian embassy, and then on to Istanbul, where he was similarly rejected. It was only in Sarajevo, after his plight had become public, that he was received by Canadian diplomatic officials.
Um, okay. That still doesn’t explain what you were doing in Iran ...
A reporter tried to suggest that, since it was the security guards and not the embassy officials who had spurned his pleas for help, the Canadian government could not be accused of forsaking him. That line of argument was blasted by Mr. Khadr’s lawyer, Rocco Galati. ”Those security guards are officials, they are the gatekeepers to our embassy,” he said, putting heavy emphasis on the word ’our’. ”I don’t like these nonsense, disingenuous distinctions between the persons at the door and the persons behind the door, if you can’t get behind the door it’s the same thing. Those security guards are Canadian officials.”
"I weep for you, the Walrus said... I deeply sympathize..."
Mr. Khadr would say very little about his time in Cuba, citing fears that going public about conditions there could jeopardize his younger brother, Omar, who is being held on suspicion of having killed a U.S. military medic. “I think that everybody has a right to be scared right now. Americans can catch you for no reason, put you away, not give you a lawyer, not give you anything,” he said.
I think we should be scared right now. Islamists will kill you for no reason. They won't give you a lawyer, either.
“My brother is in Cuba, he’s a juvenile, he’s been shot three times, he’s half blind, he has to go to the hospital every two weeks ... and I don’t see Canada doing anything about it.”
You’re breaking my heart here, kid ...
The younger Mr. Khadr, who turned 17 in September, is now believed to be the only Canadian remaining at Guantanamo Bay.
Can we keep him there?
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#1  Abdul wants to know where the grown ups are. He needs help damn it.
Posted by: Lucky || 12/02/2003 1:27 Comments || Top||

#2  Once again, I want to be the first one to request a moment of silence while I pop the cap off another bottle of beer in honor of the wounded warrior brother - OK, that's long enough burp. So - I wonder what this rabid dog gentleman, with his finely honed vocational skills let's see, you crimp the blasting cap around the det cord using your incisors, and then run the other end of the cord into the fuse lighter will be doing once he gets to Canada??? Maybe drywall carpentry???

Whatcha' all think?
Posted by: Lone Ranger || 12/02/2003 1:40 Comments || Top||

#3  Yar! We be "campers!" So every 15 yr old goes to "camp" huh? I enjoyed archery, canoeing, and swimming myself, but damn! we didn't get AK-47 training! Shit - screwed again!

Does our poor mistreated lil jihadi have any skills at all? *snicker* Lone Ranger has this 'mechanic' pegged!

If Kanada had any sense or guts or understanding of their situation soon to be predicament, they'd deport him and his entire family back to Afghanistan, cancel the whole lot's passports. THEN they'd start searching their records for similar twits - which they will find by the boatload - a convenient lot size.

So how's that Friendship Fence coming along? Can we, uh, hurry it up a little?
Posted by: .com || 12/02/2003 4:26 Comments || Top||

#4  My favorite example of a fake quote circulated by the "peace" movement:

"Iraq is an imminent danger to the US." -- President G. W. Bush
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 12/02/2003 9:59 Comments || Top||

#5  We're gonna have to make Lone Ranger the official Rantburg Mourner of Morons.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/02/2003 15:23 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Bwahahahaha! Another Symbol of Hussein’s Regime Comes Down
Not WoT but highly satisfying.
They stand as monuments to megalomania, four massive heads of Saddam Hussein, each three stories high, sitting atop the Republican Palace, which serves as home for L. Paul Bremer III, the American administrator of Iraq. As dusk fell over the capital this evening, an Iraqi construction crew lifted one of the busts from its cradle as scores of smiling Americans and Iraqis watched transfixed. They broke into cheers as soon as a crane lifted the frowning edifice and began lowering it gently to the ground perhaps looking upon the decapitated head as a surrogate for the living and breathing version, who remains an elusive fugitive.
Pix at the link.
Mr. Bremer was among the onlookers and called the heads "symbols of the odious former regime. "I’ve been looking at these for six months," he added, "so I am delighted to see them coming down. We’re sick of them."
Maybe Chief Wiggles will blog about this. He’s had to look at those heads too.
After weeks of debate, the occupation authorities requested bids from Iraqi firms for the job of removing the four busts, which are positioned at four corners of the huge palace and glower at all who pass beneath. Twelve companies bid for the work, including the firm that actually installed the monuments after Mr. Hussein commissioned them in 1996. But only one company said it could assure that the three-ton busts could be lowered to the ground safely. And so that company won the contract, for $27,000 a bargain price, given that it took all day today to remove just one of them. The company declined to be identified publicly; the workers said they were afraid they would become instant targets for the Hussein loyalists terrorizing much of Iraq. Still, a supervisor said his men, even with the danger, were thrilled to take the job. "Taking Saddam down from his palace, that means a lot to us," he said. "This is a once-in-a-lifetime job."
Congratulations.
The heads depict Mr. Hussein wearing a pith helmet with an Arab headdress draped over it and a feathery plume at the helmet’s peak the uniform for the early 20th-century Moslem warriors who fought to drive Ottoman occupiers from the Arab world. Throughout his rule, Mr. Hussein defined himself as heir to the greatest leaders and warriors of this region’s past. Similar busts atop the palace that used to belong to his son Qusay, now deceased, depict Mr. Hussein wearing the chain-mail headdress of Saladin, the fabled 12th-century Moslem warrior. But on those busts, Mr. Hussein apparently wanted to display his modern-day glory as well. Even with that helmet, he is depicted wearing a 20th-century military uniform bedecked with so many medals that if he were not made of bronze he would be stoop shouldered. Friezes on the monumental arches that lead to several of his palaces around the country show Mr. Hussein’s view of his administration’s place in history. They show a progression: Warriors in Nebuchadnezzar’s army, 5th century B.C., riding chariots to a great battle; Saladin’s forces on horseback, driving Christians from the Holy Land; followed by modern-day Iraqi soldiers fighting "Saddam’s Moslem War," otherwise known as the Iran-Iraq war, launched by Mr. Hussein and battled to a bloody stalemate eight years later.
He could barely stand under the weight of his ego.
For all the hubris of its presence, the Hussein bust removed today was of rather shoddy construction, when seen close up.
Surprise meter reading: Don’t bother.
It is hollow, and the bronze is only about one-quarter of an inch thick. Thump it, and the monument gives off the ring of an empty fuel tank. What is more, the chest is a patchwork of mismatched bronze pieces, held together with sloppy welds. Hussein’s nose, the size of a small car, was crusted with bird droppings.
Insert your own joke here:
All four busts are to be removed over the next two weeks. Charles Heatly, a spokesman for the occupation authorities, said the decision was made to remove them because, "actually they are illegal." "According to the rules of de-Baathification they have to come down," Mr. Heatly said. One of the busts will be ceremoniously destroyed "for the symbolic nature of it," Mr. Heatly said. It will be hacked up not blasted with artillery fire, as some in the festive crowd today said they would prefer. The three others are to be turned over to Iraqi authorities to dispose of as they choose. Kanan Makiya, the college professor and author, said he was hoping to acquire one for the museum he is creating called the Memory Foundation.
"All alone in the moooooonliiiight"
Up top, the construction company supervisor said, the workers were taking special pleasure from their work. Every time they cut free part of the steel superstructure, he said, they used it to smack the head a time or two before casting the beam aside.
Good riddance to bad rubbish. Now go get Sammy and squeeze him dry!
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#1  See a picture, and the hilarious caption, here.
Posted by: growler || 12/02/2003 17:37 Comments || Top||

#2  Growler: Now that's comedy!
Posted by: Seafarious || 12/02/2003 17:39 Comments || Top||

#3  (That guy has quite a wry wit, and also has some meaty posts. You should read him, if you aren't reading him already.)
Posted by: growler || 12/02/2003 17:51 Comments || Top||

#4 
Workers dismantle one of the four giant bronze busts of Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) that have long dominated Baghdad's skyline, in yet another move aimed at eradicating the former leader's influence in Baghdad, Tuesday, Dec 2, 2003. (AP Photo /Anja Niedringhaus)
Former leader?! Try DICTATOR. Unless the AP is claiming that Saddam's mass murders and mass graves constitute a legitimate leadership strategy. Well AP......Is that what you are fucking saying???!?!
Posted by: ISLAM SUCKS || 12/02/2003 18:09 Comments || Top||

#5  One should be saved so that Saddam, if he's captured alive, can be welded inside it.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 12/02/2003 19:02 Comments || Top||


Axis of Stevel Clamps down on Sammy's birthplace
I edited, read the entire article, very informative
When pressed, a weary Sheik Mahmoud al-Needa admits that what is happening in this farming village by the Tigris River is "part of the price we have to pay." Al-Owja, birthplace of Saddam Hussein, enjoyed favored status under the dictator’s rule.
"We're Numbah One! We're Numbah One!"
Now, although U.S. forces have not yet captured its famous native son, they have a tight hold on his village.
"Y'win some, y'lose some. Some gets rained out. Other times there's sand storms. Or mud slides. Or earthquakes. Or volcanic eruptions..."
A month ago, facing attacks allegedly led and financed by people in the village, troops encircled it with rolls of barbed wire, lining the nearby highway and snaking along the sand between the eucalyptus trees on the edge of the community. All males over 16 years old must register for Army-issued identification cards. Until Friday, soldiers searched cars and recorded the identity of anyone entering or leaving the village.
"'Mahmoud', huh? Whut kinda name is that? Y'ain't from around here, are yew?"
A few dozen on a "blacklist" were not allowed to exit. Friday evening, the checks ended, though they can be reimposed. The U.S. Army officer who thought up the plan is hopeful that residents got the point. "It has forced them into a dialogue with our forces," said Lt. Col. Steve Russell, a battalion commander in the 4th Infantry Division. "They realized that the rules were completely ours."
"So, lemme see if I got this straight: Youse guys, you're the conquering army that disposed the dictator that clung to power for 35 years, invaded two of his neighbors, and gassed his citizenry, dumping him in three weeks or less."
"Uhuh."
"And we're...?"
"Squat."
"No. We ain't squat."
"Have it your way."
Russell’s battalion, which covers the nearby city of Tikrit and surrounding villages, has suffered the most casualties in the division — five killed and 48 wounded. But no U.S. soldiers have been killed there in the month since al-Owja was encircled.
Says something, doesn't it?
He said the registration of the men — which includes the issuance of the photo ID in English — has turned the town into a "fishbowl" for gathering information on Iraqi insurgents. Many residents of the town see the plan as unfair.
"It ain't fair, Mahmoud! It just ain't fair!"
Al-Needa noted that despite the new tactics, this has been a deadly month for attacks on U.S. forces throughout Iraq.
Sounds like an indication there are more rolls of barbed wire needed at other towns through Iraq...
Residents also say the new system is haphazard. For example, they note that one of those on the blacklist for exit was Nasser Hussein Obaid, a 40-year-old invalid, crippled since birth, who lives in a fly-infested home with his equally disabled brother and mother. Russell said Obaid has "close ties to Saddam" and may possess valuable information. He noted that only about three dozen residents are on the blacklist, and the rest of the town’s 3,500 residents were free to come and go past the checkpoint.
"But don't bring Nasser."
But the one with the upper hand is clearly Russell, a casual, telegenic 40-year-old Oklahoman. He studied military history — the tactics used by Napoleon in Germany and the French in Algeria — to find a way to track an enemy who lives among the population. He relies in part on tribal politics to keep the village subdued, giving al-Needa a chance to use his sheik’s clout in winning the residents’ cooperation. Of course, he can frequently draw on ample force — U.S. troops have raided and searched about a third of the homes in the village. But he also uses incentives, saying that the coalition has helped al-Needa acquire loans and complete paperwork with the new bureaucracy. When he wrapped the village in barbed wire, he told al-Needa that the residents must stop supporting attacks on the coalition, provide information on hidden weapons in their farmlands and make those on the blacklist available for questioning at any time. He said al-Needa has delivered about as well as he can.
Which I'd guess would be grudgingly...
But last week, before the checkpoint was suspended, al-Needa took a bitter view of the American actions.
"It hate it!" he said, his eyes filling with tears. "I mean, I'm a sheikh and everything. I got this burnoose, and these curly-toed slippers. People come from miles around, just to kiss my shoulders. And I gotta defer to these... these... infidels!"
He warned that the IDs and the barbed wire would just turn people against the Americans — something Russell dismisses, noting the existing anti-American sentiments.
"What the hell are they now?"
In the end, though, al-Needa said he can do little except follow the American dictates. That’s exactly the message Russell would like to send to the whole village. "If this happened in the time of Saddam Hussein, we would fight him," al-Needa said. "But we can’t fight the Americans. They are more powerful."
Since worse things happened under Sammy, and most of the time people didn't fight him, I'd doubt the truth of that statement...

You may want to read the entire article
Posted by: Sherry || 12/02/2003 5:16:30 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'm looking forward to reading LtCol Russell's memoirs.
Posted by: BH || 12/02/2003 17:24 Comments || Top||

#2  The 4th ID hasn't brought Lt. Col. Russell up on charges yet for 'insensitivity'? Good, maybe General Odierno is learning a thing or two, also.
Posted by: fireodierno || 12/02/2003 18:01 Comments || Top||

#3  No-one should doubt the efficiency of the Army of Steves™. I've been repeatedly burned by them
Posted by: Frank G || 12/02/2003 20:17 Comments || Top||


Izzat’s aide detained
US troops detained the private secretary of Saddam Hussein’s fugitive number two, Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri, during a massive sweep in the Iraqi town of Hawijah today, its police chief Awad al-Obeidi said. "Saad Mohammed al-Douri was arrested in a house in the Hawijah area, where he was hiding," Obeidi said in Iraq’s northern oil capital by telephone.
Sounds like a relative, or at least tribal member.
Kirkuk’s police chief, General Turhan Yusef, said $US40,000 was found in the man’s possession, which was suspected of being used to finance attacks on the US-led coalition.
Ha, got his walking around money.
Across north-central Iraq, more than 100 people were arrested in what the police general described as a "one-off operation aimed at finding Izzat Ibrahim based on specific intelligence".
We got a hot tip and jumped on it.
Six Iraqis were wounded as several villages put up resistance to the massive cordon and search sweep.
"Yankee dog, go h.....WACK!"
"What did you hit him so hard for, Sarge?"
"I’m not a Yankee, I’m a Red Sox fan."

Yusef said the blockade around Hawijah, a town of some 80,000 people, was finally lifted at 9.45pm local time more than 16 hours after it was imposed.
An official of the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan, the dominant Kurdish faction in Kirkuk, said a former general in the disbanded Iraqi army was also arrested in the raids, along with Hamid Saad, a senior official of Saddam’s former ruling Baath party in charge of youth and student affairs. The official, Jalal Jawrar, said an arms cache and attack plans were found in the general’s home. Other detainees included former member of the ultra-loyalist Saddam Fedayeen militia and middle-ranking army officers.
Didn’t get Izzy, but we didn’t go away empty handed either.
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#1  Sure are rolling alot of the mutts up. I wonder if Old Grouch was right and the Iraqi General who *ahem* DIED DURING AN INTERROGATION is sitting in a resort hotel in Kuwait, spilling the beans. Interesting to see which of the mutts is 'arrested' next on a tip off.
Posted by: witnessprotectionprogram || 12/02/2003 16:24 Comments || Top||


Council In Iraq Supports US Plan over Sistani’s Demands
A majority of Iraq’s U.S.-appointed Governing Council has decided to support an American plan to select a provisional government through regional caucuses despite objections from the country’s most powerful Shiite Muslim cleric, according to several council members.
This is a big deal, if it can hold. A tiered system of elections is an important counterbalance to any tyranny of the majority, allowing representation of ethnic and religious groups.
The council’s stance, the result of intense lobbying over the past few days by the U.S. administrator of Iraq, L. Paul Bremer, could result in a dramatic showdown with Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani, who has insisted that a provisional government be chosen through a national election. If the council persists in supporting the American plan, many in Iraq’s Shiite majority, who regard the grand ayatollah as their supreme spiritual authority, may reject the provisional government as illegitimate.
Bremer has a tough job but is doing well at this part of it. If he can pull this off, it will go a long way to making Iraq a stable success.
"We are facing a very tense situation, perhaps the most tense since the end of the war," one of the council’s Shiite members said. "None of us want a confrontation, but we have to realize we are traveling down a road that could lead to a very big confrontation." Council members and officials with the U.S.-led occupation authority said they remained hopeful that Sistani’s objections could be overcome with minor revisions to the plan and a more detailed explanation to him of the new transition process, which was crafted in part to address his earlier concerns about how a constitution should be written.
My guess is that something will eventually be worked out. Sistani's too valuable to blow off, and we're too important to the Shiites to break with us...
But they expressed an unwillingness to bend on the issue of general elections, on the grounds that holding a national ballot would delay an agreed-upon handover of sovereignty, which is to take place no later than June 30.
That’s as good a public excuse as any .. but from the US point of view, there are larger issues at stake, namely setting up a system that is representative while avoiding some of the potential instability of direct democracy in a country without historic experience and shared values needed to make that work.
"It will be impossible to have elections under the current circumstances," said Ghazi Yawar, a Sunni Muslim who represents one of the country’s largest tribes on the council. "We all respect the point of view of Ayatollah Sistani, but there is a difference between what you wish for and what you can have." Even the country’s largest Shiite political party, the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, has sought to distance itself from Sistani’s insistence on elections.
Good.
"When we say ’Iraqis choose’ or ’Iraqis elect,’ this can take many meanings," said Adel Abdel-Mehdi, director of the party’s political bureau. "There is no one way to do that." The decision to stick with the U.S. plan was made informally among a majority of the council’s 24 members after intense discussions over the weekend and on Monday. They said some Shiite members remained undecided because they were waiting for a clearer statement from Abdel-Mehdi’s party, which has voiced reservations about the caucuses. The initial moves of the council have pleased the Bush administration, which regards caucuses as the best — and speediest — way to select a provisional government. U.S. officials had worried that a call for elections by the council would have scuttled the transition plan, making it harder for President Bush to declare an end to the civil occupation before next year’s presidential election. "We’re encouraged by the Governing Council’s focus on implementing the agreement," a senior U.S. official in Baghdad said.

The council’s apparent steadfastness stems from a desire among Sunni Arabs, Sunni Kurds and secular Shiites that an ayatollah not be given veto power over political decisions. "We cannot deny there is an attempt to set a precedent on Sistani’s side and our side," one member said. "This is more than about elections. It’s about whether we will allow one man to dictate the terms of our sovereignty."
yup
The member said that "the most powerful political forces on the council" did not want such a result and had decided among themselves
yes!
to confront the issue of religion in politics — a thorny subject that was to be deferred until the drafting of a new constitution. "The big parties don’t want to cross Sistani, but they want to make sure we don’t have a system in place where the religious men have the final say."
Like they have to the east...
Under the Bush administration’s new transition plan, approved by the council on Nov. 15, caucuses would be held in Iraq’s 18 provinces to choose representatives to serve on a transitional assembly, which would form a provisional government. Participants in the caucuses would have to be approved by 11 of 15 people on an organizing committee, which would be selected by the Governing Council and U.S.-appointed councils at the city and provincial levels. Assuming the process stays on track and on schedule, the provisional government would assume sovereignty no later than June 30, at which time the Governing Council would be dissolved. After completion of a census and enactment of electoral laws, the provisional government would hold an election for a council to draft a new constitution. A second round of elections would be held by the end of 2005 for a full-fledged government as outlined in the constitution.

Bremer had originally wanted a constitution to be drafted — either by appointees or people selected through caucuses — before sovereignty was transferred. But his plan was foiled by Sistani, who issued a religious edict over the summer calling for the drafters to be elected. Although Bremer wanted to push forward with his arrangement, council members refused to support it out of fear of crossing Sistani. Worried that the council might quake again in light of Sistani’s most recent pronouncement about elections for the provisional government, Bremer and his staff hit the phones over the weekend and urged members to stay their course. "They were nervous," one source close to the council said of Bremer’s team. "They went into high gear." Some council members responded with political maneuvering of their own. Hoping to win a few concessions from the occupation authority for standing firm, they have renewed efforts to keep the council in existence after June 30, perhaps as a second legislative body or as a "sovereignty council" that would monitor the transfer of power.
Founding Fathers & Mothers ...
U.S. officials have opposed keeping the council around after a provisional government is formed because of concern that the two bodies might squabble and that the entire process could lose legitimacy if an American-appointed council continued to hold power. But several council members, particularly those who do not lead large political parties, are concerned about their ability to be selected through the caucuses. Some of them now want Bremer to guarantee members a role in the provisional government in exchange for their support of the caucuses.
That part's all about job security...
Several members also want the council to play a greater role in selecting people for the caucuses. Under the Nov. 15 plan, the Governing Council would appoint only five of the 15 members on each of the 18 caucus organizing committees. The 10 others would be drawn from provincial and city councils. But Governing Council members contend the provincial and local councils, several of which were formed by military commanders with minimal popular consultation, are not sufficiently representative and are rife with loyalists of former president Saddam Hussein. As a consequence, many members want either the Governing Council to have more seats on the organizing committees or the local councils to be dissolved and assembled from scratch.

Council leaders say they believe revamping the local councils or diminishing their role could affect Sistani’s position. "He is concerned about the local councils," said a Shiite politician who recently met with Sistani. "If we could reform them, maybe even by holding some local elections, it might satisfy him." To that end, the Governing Council set up a committee on Sunday intended to suggest ways to revise the selection process. U.S. officials said Bremer would be willing to consider minor modifications but that he remained opposed to giving the Governing Council a dominant role in choosing participants. While the council attempts to make changes acceptable to both Bremer and Sistani, the occupation authority is wasting no time trying to sell the agreement directly to the Iraqi public in an attempt to win over the grand ayatollah’s supporters. A nationwide "information operations" campaign slated to begin in the next few days will tout the new plan as good for Iraqis.
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#1  I hope that Bremmer stands firm on this. From the Iraqi blogs I've been reading, most notably Healing Iraq, the average Iraqi feels that the Governing Council is not only using their positions to line their pockets but also that many of them aren't there in Iraq most of the time.
Posted by: rabidfox || 12/02/2003 14:09 Comments || Top||

#2  Anybody know if it's true that the Council members are away a lot of the time?

A few have been out doing the diplomatic thing with the UN & some arab states. Wonder what else, if anything, is going on?
Posted by: rkb || 12/02/2003 18:27 Comments || Top||


Assured Mobility in Baghdad
The Al-Muthana Bridge in Northern Baghdad is important to the economic vitality of Baghdad and critical to the support of military operations in the city. The northernmost bridge in Baghdad, it supports heavy industrial traffic. The bridge has two Mabey-Johnson bridges that were emplaced by the U.S. military in June. One of the ramps was severely deteriorated. A large split in the ramp deck threatened to fail completely or at least seriously damage a car or truck.

A British company developed the Mabey-Jonson Bridge a few years ago as quick emplacement bridge that is easier to assemble. It is similar to the Bailey Bridge that was used extensively in World War II. Soldiers from the 671st Multi-Role Bridge Co. (Oregon National Guard), alongside soldiers from C Company, 16th Engineer Battalion quickly developed a plan to repair the bridge. “The 671st Multi-Role Bridge Company helped install the bridge we are repairing back in June,” said Lt. Col. John Kem, 16th Engineer Battalion commander. “They were the lead with C Company, 16th (Engineers) for the installation of a bridge across the large canal near Taji back in September.”

On November 18, after a thorough reconnaissance, the 671st convoyed to Camp Anaconda to the “bridge park” to get the parts needed for repair. Excited about the mission and ready to start, the soldiers didn’t want to wait until the next day to initiate repair. Headquarters and First Platoon, C Co. 16th Engineers and the company’s maintenance team joined forces with the 671st to quickly reestablish a functioning bridge. Within an hour’s notice, 1st Platoon, Charlie Company was moving. The 671st provided traffic control and on-site security. Traffic flow was diverted to the northbound bridge. Repairs took place between 9 p.m. and 11 p.m.
MORE AT LINK
And contrast this with the months it takes most state DOT’s to repair an American highway bridge.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 12/02/2003 12:17:51 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Baileys are still efficient and available, but the spans are limited to <100', IIRC last time I talked to their sales people
Posted by: Frank G || 12/02/2003 19:48 Comments || Top||


Task Force “All American” for Dec. 1
During the past 24 hours, the 82nd Airborne Division and subordinate units have conducted three offensive operations, all cordon and searches. Soldiers also conducted 166 patrols, including six joint patrols with the Iraqi Border Guard and Iraqi police. During these operations 15 enemy personnel were captured. At Trebil on the Jordanian border, 119 personnel and seven vehicles were refused entry, because they did not have passports or valid documentation.
You know, they’re getting a hundred or more here every day. Busy border crossing. I wonder if they’re detaining any?
Civil affairs personnel met with the local leaders and police chiefs in Fallujah to discuss better ways to visually identify police forces operating in the area. All participants agreed that the 1900 police officers must be issued badges and that they will be required to wear them while conducting duties. Badge issuance should be complete within three weeks.
Badges? We don’t need no steenking badges! Oh, you’re shooting anyone without one? Hokay, gimme a badge.
Division Civil Affairs teams completed renovations on three primary schools in the Al Tash area of Ar Ramadi and their actions will positively effect over 1500 students in the area. Elements continued working with UNICEF and local leaders in Ar Rutbah and are distributing approximately 30,000 textbooks for primary schools there. Already, 60% of the books have been circulated, and the teachers in the area are grateful that they are no longer required to teach the curriculum endorsed by the former regime. In addition, the Al Anbar trucking company began moving supplies for US forces.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 12/02/2003 8:51:54 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Great work again!!
But, is anyone vetting the school books? I seem to remember that some school books in Palestine are less than friendly toward America and Israel and anyone who does not believe EXACTLY as they do.
Posted by: SamIII || 12/02/2003 11:07 Comments || Top||

#2  . . . are less than friendly toward America and Israel and anyone who does not believe EXACTLY as they do.

Sadly, the same can be said about some texts here in the States. You'd be surprised what passes for "history" sometimes. Thank you cowardly school boards. . .
Posted by: Doc8404 || 12/02/2003 12:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Sam, yes they are vetting the schoolbooks. They haven't really had time to sort out the events from Gulf War I 'til now, so there is a big hole in Iraq's current history missing in the new books. But no more Hussein paeans and hopefully nothing anti-Western and/or anti-Semitic. The books have been slow to arrive because of the rewriting, but they will get distributed.
Posted by: Seafarious || 12/02/2003 12:36 Comments || Top||


’Cage’ confines infiltrators on Iraq border with Syria
Hat tip to Drudge
Fighters in the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment refer to it simply as "the Cage." It is a barbed-wire detention center for suspected foreign infiltrators consisting of a circular pen lined with rigid metal containers. Inside, the prisoners — some of them "high-value targets" with foreign identity cards — quietly await their interrogations. Several genuflect to God, while others simply run their fingers through the brown sand that stretches for miles in all directions. U.S. soldiers jokingly call the enclosure, designed to hold up to 2,000 prisoners, the "Super Bowl of Jihads." But it is seldom clear who sent the detainees across the border from Syria, and even their captors say most are probably not members of any organized movement.
Anarchy among Jihadis? Free agent tryouts more likely
The starry-eyed turbans I was talking about yesterday — cheap, easily replaced, prone to receiving the short end of the stick. Maybe we should call them Saad Saqs?
"What we are trying to get ... are the foreign fighters that might come across," said Maj. Gen. Charles H. Swannack Jr., commanding general of the 82nd Airborne Division out of Ft. Bragg, N.C., during a recent visit to the camp. "We believe that there are not only former regime loyalists but also foreign fighters, and this operation is focused specifically on trying to discern the rat lines — as we call them — that head down to Baghdad.
nice descriptive phrase
"Some of the battle damage assessments show that we are finding some of these foreign fighters in pretty good numbers. We are also learning how the enemy is [infiltrating Iraq]." Pentagon officials have pinpointed the Syrian border as a key crossing point for al Qaeda and other jihadist groups who hope to confront U.S. forces in Iraq. For now, U.S. ground commanders view other crossing points on the Saudi and Iranian borders as less crucial to the antiterror campaign.
Better pay some serious attention to that northern border with Iran.
But the terror organizations deliberately have chosen not to send large numbers of foreign fighters into Iraq, said Charles Heyman, editor of Jane’s World Armies. "These jihadi groups ... have recognized that it is pointless to send an untrained jihadi into Iraq — partly because it is more likely to disrupt the struggle than assist it," he said.
Intel source rather than a fighting martyr
Rather, he said, the organizations "are moving in highly trained operatives who can work on the ground with Iraqis in a ’value-added’ capacity by imparting strategy and know-how."
So the cannon fodder numbers are dropping off, to be replaced by Zarqawi's guys...
Col. David A. Teeples, the commander of the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment, agreed. "What these groups do is send a few over the border to help with training in this area and then move on," he said. "We are finding that they like to bring together five or six individuals into a cell and practice making bombs, then they push out of here to link up with other network contacts." Most foreign fighters, said Col. Teeples, do not enter or leave Iraq with weapons. "Everything they already need, including guns and bombs, is right here in Iraq at their disposal when they arrive," he said.
Sammy spent years worth of grocery money to buy them...
Col. Teeples cited the capture of nearly a dozen Saudi and Yemeni militants on the Syrian border during the past two weeks as evidence that a steady trickle of foreign fighters is entering Iraq. His forces have confronted several small groups and arrested nearly a dozen of what he referred to as "high-value targets" in recent days in a sweep that was scheduled to wind up yesterday.
Must be hard to tell the real hard boys from the wannabes...
It is dangerous work. The military announced yesterday that two members of the regiment were killed and a third was wounded Saturday when a task force was hit by rocket-propelled grenades and automatic fire east of Husaybah. Husaybah, the largest city on the border, has been the focus of a massive house-to-house sweep for the insurgents’ rat lines, according to Lt. Col. Joe Buche. "Rat lines are the kind of the movement you would get from a rat when you turn on the lights — they scurry from place of cover to place of cover. They move to one site, they rest, and somebody else is watching out for them. They can then move to another site on command, so that they are not exposed. The insurgents have a series of small cells, and the small cells know what their own are doing. If we can get the guys in the center, then the whole network could fall apart."
That's the hard part. But we've only got to succeed once...
Gaining solid intelligence on the Iraqi resistance and its links to al Qaeda remains a daunting task. Many of the several hundred recent detainees on the border have been accused only of curfew violations, of carrying small satellite phones similar to the type often used by smugglers or of not having proper identification. In fact, three detainees caught in northern Iraq would be the first confirmed members of al Qaeda to be captured in the country if initial reports are borne out. Asked during the weekend whether any al Qaeda members had been captured, Col. Joe Anderson, commander of the 2nd Brigade of the 101st Airborne Division, told the Associated Press in Mosul that three Iraqi members of the group were captured two weeks ago. "We take them, we process them through a detention facility ... and if all the facts wind up, they go to Baghdad and ... that’s the last I ever hear from them," he said.
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#1  Ew. Hope that cage has a Jihadi on the Spot.
Posted by: BH || 12/02/2003 10:42 Comments || Top||

#2  Hmmm, 'foreign' fighters? Strap a porkchop around their necks and repatriate them from 12,000 feet out of the back of a C-130. Without a parachute.
Posted by: linebackertwo || 12/02/2003 13:48 Comments || Top||

#3  A better solution would be to tattoo the Arabic equivalent of ‘Loser’, ‘Coward’, or better yet ‘Jew’ on their forehead and send them back home. Few (if any) other volunteers would answer any calls for ‘Jihad Duty’. It would also preclude them from glorifying their Jihad duty. Nobody would listen to their ‘war stories’ if they have the word ‘Jew’ across their forehead. Cruel? Maybe, but very affective.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 12/02/2003 17:12 Comments || Top||

#4  Cyber Sarge: Great idea! I like the way you think!
Posted by: BH || 12/02/2003 18:50 Comments || Top||


Iraqi guerrillas have central leadership, financing
The Iraqi insurgency in Baghdad appears to have a central leadership that finances attacks in the capital and gives broad orders to eight to 12 rebel bands — some with as many as 100 guerrillas, U.S. Army generals said Monday.
That's the hazy outline of the order of battle. Can we fill in any details?
Decisions on individual attacks against U.S. occupation forces in the capital, however, are left up to the men who carry them out, said Brig. Gen. Martin Dempsey. There is still no sign of a military-style command structure in the city or in Iraq as a whole, Dempsey told a group of reporters in an unusually detailed account of the Iraqi insurgency. ’’I’m increasingly of the belief that there’s central financial control and central communications,’’ said Dempsey, who commands the Army’s 1st Armored Division, which controls Baghdad and the surrounding region. The division’s picture of the insurgency has grown clearer as its intelligence gathering has improved, he said. Last month, the Army rounded up what Dempsey believes is one of the guerrilla cells blamed for attacks in Baghdad, including the Oct. 26 rocket strike on the Al-Rasheed Hotel that occurred during the stay of Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz. Although Dempsey spoke about the Baghdad operation, an ambush Sunday in the town of Samarra north of the capital also showed heightened coordination. U.S. forces successfully routed a group of about 50 fighters who lay in wait at banks and ambushed two American convoys carrying Iraqi currency, killing dozens of Iraqis.

In Baghdad, rebel attacks have come in waves that Dempsey said appear to start when an order is given. The Iraqi capital has been quiet in recent weeks, after a series of attacks in early November. Dempsey said he believes the lull stems from a leader’s ordering guerrillas to lie low during the Army’s current offensive, ’’Operation Iron Hammer.’’
Stick your head up, we'll cut it off...
A yet-unidentified central leadership appears to give guerrilla cells broad orders such as, ’’Go attack the coalition,’’ Dempsey said. He said he believes the manner of attack is left up to the individual cells, as long as the efforts disrupt and discredit the U.S.-led coalition and any progress it has made. Insurgency members and leaders remain unclear — even to U.S. intelligence and military officers. They have said anti-coalition guerrillas showed evidence of regional control; little has been made public about those networks.
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al-Douri may be in the jug or taking a dirt nap
U.S. troops may have killed or arrested Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri, Saddam Hussein’s top former deputy who is suspected of leading the anti-U.S. insurgency, an Iraqi official said Tuesday. Officials of the U.S.-led coalition in Baghdad said they had no information on the report.
As of this evening it appears to have been a false report...
Al-Douri, No. 6 on the U.S. list of most-wanted Iraqis, may have been arrested or killed in a U.S. raid in Kirkuk in northern Iraq, a senior Kurdish official in Kirkuk said. "I heard he might have been killed or captured," the official said, citing sources in his political party.

U.S. officials last week offered a $10 million reward for information leading to al-Douri’s capture. Aside from Saddam, Al-Douri is the most senior official of the former regime who is still at large. Last week, U.S. troops arrested a wife and a daughter in an apparent attempt to pressure him into surrendering.

In Baghdad, workers on Tuesday began dismantling four giant bronze busts of Saddam Hussein that have long been a Baghdad landmark. The workers used a construction crane to take down the busts in the Republican Palace, in yet another move aimed at eradicating the former leader’s influence. The U.S.-led Coalition Provisional Authority announced last month that it would dismantle the 13-feet-high busts. It was not clear how long the operation would last.

Meanwhile, a witness said insurgents ambushed American soldiers just south of Samarra, a city where troops and insurgents fought a pitched battle on Sunday. U.S. commanders claimed that up to 54 guerrillas were killed in the clash Sunday , but this has been disputed by residents and hospital officials who say less than 10 people - most of them baby ducks civilians - died. Tuesday’s ambush occurred on the road between Baghdad and Samarra, 60 miles north of the capital, witnesses said. An Associated Press photographer said he saw American soldiers using a stretcher to carry a body covered in plastic. It was unclear who the victim was.
Did it have webbed feet?
In addition to attacking coalition forces, rebels in recent days have killed a number of nonmilitary personnel, including two Japanese diplomats, two South Korean electrical workers and a Colombian contractor. Sir Jeremy Greenstock, Britain’s chief representative in Iraq, warned that insurgents are now turning to softer targets and urged foreigners to increase security levels. "People have to be very careful. The Spaniards and the Japanese who were killed this week were not following the strictest possible protection rules," Greenstock told British Broadcasting Corp. radio. Greenstock said he was confident coalition troops would retain a grip on events and said the coalition backed the aggressive approach to tackling security problems being taken by Lt. Gen. Ricardo Sanchez, the top U.S. commander in Iraq.

During the past month, U.S. troops have pounded suspected guerrilla targets under a new "get-tough" campaign against the insurgency. Despite the crackdown, November has proven to be the deadliest for coalition troops since the war began. The increasing death toll has raised concerns in some nations taking part in the U.S.-led coalition. On Tuesday, Thailand’s Foreign Minister Surakiart Sathirathai said government leaders will discuss the possibility of withdrawing Thailand’s contingent from Iraq if the security situation continues to deteriorate. Thailand dispatched 422 soldiers in September in a non-combat capacity to help rebuild roads, buildings and other infrastructure destroyed during the war, and to provide medical services.

The fighting in Samarra on Sunday represented a greater level of coordination in the Iraqi insurgency, although U.S. forces said they had anticipated the attacks and blunted them with superior firepower. U.S. Capt. Andy Deponai, whose tank was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade during the firefight, said on Monday that he was surprised by the scale of the attack on the convoys, which were carrying bundles of new Iraqi currency, and that 30 to 40 assailants lay in wait - armed with rocket-propelled grenades - near each of the two banks where the money was being delivered. "Up to now you’ve seen a progression - initially it was hit-and-run, single RPG shots on patrols. Then they started doing volley fire, multiple RPG ambushes, and then from there, this is the first well-coordinated one," he said.

"It’s hard to tell on the basis of one attack exactly what tactics may or may not be changing," Gen. Peter Pace, vice chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, said in Brussels, Belgium.
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#1  From Rooters: U.S. forces may have killed or captured Izzat Ibrahim, the most wanted man in Iraq after Saddam Hussein and believed to be a mastermind of the guerrilla resistance, Governing Council sources say. There was no immediate comment from the U.S. military on the reports about Saddam's right-hand man. "There was a major action against a highly suspicious objective last night in Kirkuk and it is very possible that Izzat Ibrahim has been captured or killed," Governing Council member Mowaffaq al-Rubaie told Reuters. He said he had been in contact with U.S. forces. Another high-level source in the U.S.-appointed Council said he had been informed that Ibrahim had been caught in the raid. Local government officials in Kirkuk, 250 km (150 miles) north of Baghdad, said the town was abuzz with talk that Ibrahim had been captured. Ibrahim's detention would be a major coup for the U.S.-led coalition. A top pre-war lieutenant of Saddam's, he is sixth on the U.S. list of the 55 top Iraqi fugitives, but all those in the top five except for Saddam have been killed or captured. In a deck of cards issued to U.S. troops to help them identify fugitives, Ibrahim is the King of Clubs.
Let's not get our hopes up, but it sounds good.
Posted by: Steve || 12/02/2003 8:49 Comments || Top||

#2  Saddam Hussein’s deputy, Izzat Ibrahim Al-Douri, has been captured in a joint Iraqi-U.S. manhunt operation, a member of the U.S.-installed Iraqi Governing Council confirmed Tuesday, December 2. Mahmoud Othman told the BBC that the council has been officially notified of Douri’s arrest during a major overnight raid on the northern city of Kirkuk. There was no official comment from the U.S. army on the capture of Douri, the sixth on the U.S. list of the most wanted 55 Iraqi officials.

Almost there, I'd really like a US spokesman.
Posted by: Steve || 12/02/2003 9:39 Comments || Top||

#3  Oh yeah... warming up... captured is very very good... C'mon Steve, drop the other shoe, man!
Posted by: .com || 12/02/2003 9:55 Comments || Top||

#4  Excellent.

If he's captured the Oxy-Contin's gonna do the trick.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/02/2003 9:58 Comments || Top||

#5  Another tease from Fox: Mowaffak al-Rubaie, a member of the U.S.-picked Iraqi Governing Council, told the Arabic television station Al-Jazeera that there was "a very big military operation" in Kirkuk and that those killed or captured included a "big fish." "We are trying to verify the identity of this important figure," al-Rubaie said. "Preliminary examination has been very positive." A senior Kurdish official in Kirkuk said, speaking on condition of anonymity, said he heard al-Douri had been "killed or captured," citing sources in his political party. The official said family members of al-Douri bodyguards were seen crying and saying that al-Douri had been captured. The official also said the family members were in Hawija, 30 miles west of Kirkuk, and that American soldiers had arrested dozens of people there in an overnight raid.

Comon, CENTCOM, don't leave us hanging.
Posted by: Steve || 12/02/2003 10:41 Comments || Top||

#6  Same GC story from BBC at the top of the hour...
Posted by: .com || 12/02/2003 10:49 Comments || Top||

#7  "Izzat him?"

"Don't know. Let's take him down to the morgue and find out."
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 12/02/2003 10:56 Comments || Top||

#8  Dammit, Dammit, Dammit. Fox News reporting that we didn't get him. Source is US military command on the scene.
Posted by: Steve || 12/02/2003 11:00 Comments || Top||

#9  From BBC: US forces have denied reports that they have captured a top Saddam Hussein deputy during a raid in northern Iraq. A member of Iraq's Governing Council said earlier Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri had been caught in the raid near Kirkuk. But Major Doug Vincent of the 173rd Airborne Brigade told reporters with the troops Mr Douri was "definitely not captured in today's mission".

Dammit
Posted by: Steve || 12/02/2003 11:21 Comments || Top||

#10  Crud. Why did we miss him though? Iraqi Police escort him outside security lines and let him loose?
Posted by: Charles || 12/02/2003 11:32 Comments || Top||

#11  One reason to have the wife and daughter briefly: DNA from both would enable them to identify al Douri -- or to rule out an imposter. Given that Hussein is reported definitely to have changed his appearance, it isn't beyond belief that his 2nd has done so as well .....
Posted by: rkb || 12/02/2003 11:33 Comments || Top||

#12  I would wait for more credible news source than the BBC
Posted by: Dan || 12/02/2003 11:36 Comments || Top||

#13  But Major Doug Vincent of the 173rd Airborne Brigade told reporters with the troops Mr Douri was "definitely not captured in today's mission".

This could mean that he was captured yesterday.
Posted by: Tibor || 12/02/2003 11:41 Comments || Top||

#14  Along the same lines as my previous post, the Fox News report quotes a 4th ID spokesman as denying the report that al-Douri was captured or killed in a raid in Northern Iraq overnight. Why quote the 4th ID, which is based in the Sunni Triangle, rather than the 173rd or 101st?

I may be grasping at straws, but I am an optimist. I always see the body bag as half full rather than half empty.
Posted by: Tibor || 12/02/2003 11:54 Comments || Top||

#15  Isn't this "The Ice Man"?

"Given that Hussein is reported definitely to have changed his appearance, it isn't beyond belief that his 2nd has done so as well ....."

This guy had better - believe it or not he has red hair and mustache. I'd say some L'Oreal is probably in play here. I hope we do get a shot at him - unspoiled by Iraqi police playing both sides, as has been reported. Unfortunately, we have little clean material to work with - so it's a crap shoot.
Posted by: .com || 12/02/2003 12:08 Comments || Top||

#16  at least one item ive seen said coalition forces are also looking or al-Duris son ahmed (?), who commands 500 insurgents organized in 2 brigades, reporting to his father. If Ahmed al -Duri has been captured, that could account for the confusion.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 12/02/2003 13:08 Comments || Top||

#17  this from John Burns of the New York Times (yes, the Times) via Andrew Sullivan.

"Here is what you have yet to hear reported in the mainstream media. In the few weeks since Coalition forces began to launch major counter-insurgency attacks, beginning with Operation Iron Hammer, over 1100 Iraqi Guerrillas have been captured or killed. This represents one-fifth of the entire strength of the Ba’athist and Islamist forces in the country. These figures, presented to President Bush in a secret briefing during his Thanksgiving trip to Baghdad, do not include the forty-six terrorists killed in a battle on November 30th. In other words, the US armed forces are killing and capturing fifteen of the enemy for each loss of their own: and this figure is distorted by the high number of US personnel killed in aircraft shoot-downs in November, a figure which is not likely to be repeated. In individual combat, the results look more and more like those of the last Sunday in November: forty-six of the enemy killed and eight captured with no losses among our forces. At the present rate, the entire force possessed by the enemy will be destroyed, and the country pacified, in a matter of months."

Like Sully, I think this sounds a tad optimistic. Wonder about Burns sources on the 1100. The 5000 is from Centcom.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 12/02/2003 14:12 Comments || Top||

#18  I first read about the 1100 dead guerrillas in DEBKA, so, despite my earlier post professing to be an optimist, I am pessimistic about this claim.

I wonder if John Burns, who's a terrific and honest reporter (NYT press badge notwithstanding), reads DEBKA or if there are other sources reporting this.
Posted by: Tibor || 12/02/2003 14:29 Comments || Top||

#19  Cant believe Burns would reprint Debka. The one other relatively hawkish reporter on Iraq at the Times, Judith Miller, got into deep doo doo relying on reports from the INC for claims on WMD that turned out to be wrong. Burns, who had "a very good war" would be more cautious, I think.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 12/02/2003 14:37 Comments || Top||

#20  another possibility is that Burns and Debka have a common source. Debka, IIUC, tends to be the mouthpieces for certain elements in Israeli Intel, accounting for both its strong agenda, and its occasional bona fide nugget. Is it possible Burns has his own sources in Israeli Intel? Or that in this case Israeli Intel got its info from Centcom, which is also feeding it to Burns? Leaking it to avoid getting into the official body count game? And to put their preferred spin on it?
Posted by: liberalhawk || 12/02/2003 14:41 Comments || Top||

#21  Was Burns the source for the 1,100 figure? I thought that number appeared origninally on a Canadian website, without sourcing (can't remember which site, or how I linked to it). Notwithstanding this, interesting and savvy commentary on the matter, liberalhawk. Your take on DEBKA -- and Burns -- is the same as mine.
Posted by: IceCold || 12/02/2003 17:06 Comments || Top||


Dogging the Bad Guys in Iraq
The Iraqi insurgency in Baghdad appears to have a central leadership that finances attacks in the capital and gives broad orders to eight to 12 rebel bands - some with as many as 100 guerrillas, U.S. Army generals said.
Decisions on individual attacks against U.S. occupation forces in the capital, however, are left up to the men who carry them out, Brig. Gen. Martin Dempsey said Monday.
There is still no sign of a military-style command structure in the city or in Iraq as a whole, Dempsey told a group of reporters in an unusually detailed account of the Iraqi insurgency.
"I’m increasingly of the belief that there’s central financial control and central communications," said Dempsey, who commands the Army’s 1st Armored Division, which controls Baghdad and the surrounding region.
The division’s picture of the insurgency has grown clearer as its intelligence gathering has improved, he said. Last month, the Army rounded up what Dempsey believes is one of the guerrilla cells blamed for attacks in Baghdad, including the Oct. 26 rocket strike on the Al-Rasheed Hotel that occurred during the stay of Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz.
The Iraqi capital has been quiet in recent weeks, after a series of attacks in early November. Dempsey said he believes the lull stems from a leader’s ordering guerrillas to lie low during the Army’s current offensive, "Operation Iron Hammer."
The insurgency’s members and leaders remain unclear - even to U.S. intelligence and military officials. American officials have said anti-coalition guerrillas showed evidence of regional control, but little has been made public about those networks, or to indicate individual bands were linked in the way Dempsey described.
The 1st Armored Division has been tracking Baghdad insurgents using a computer database that catalogs information on rebels and diagrams links among insurgents, Dempsey said. The database has proven useful in identifying insurgent groups forming in the city’s 88 neighborhoods.
Later this week, the division will embark on an anti-smuggling and corruption drive aimed at breaking financial links to the capital’s insurgent groups. The operation, dubbed "Operation Iron Justice," aims at smugglers of gasoline, cooking fuel and other items, Dempsey said.
A good move. First dry up existing funds through the currency exchange. Then squash the black market funding.
"Our human intelligence suggests a link between price gouging and the financing of these networks," he said. "I can’t say for sure it exists. But I have enough to know it’s worth addressing."
Rebel bands operating in Baghdad include large cells of 80 to 100 members, and smaller groups of 10 to 20 fighters, said Brig. Gen. Mark Hertling, also of the 1st Armored Division, who spoke to reporters along with Dempsey.
One of those cells - believed responsible for the Al-Rasheed Hotel attack - has been broken up, with 28 members captured in raids Nov. 6.
The 1st Armored’s Second Brigade Combat Team raided a dozen or so villas and seized the suspects, along with rockets and other munitions, computers, cash and a rocket manual. Other suspects in the hotel attack have been rounded up in other raids.
Since those raids, the northwest suburb where the group operated, Abu Ghraib, has been quiet, Hertling said, and anti-American sermons in local mosques have been toned down.
Another organization calling itself Mohammed’s Army, or Jaish Mohammed, appears to be an umbrella group for former intelligence agents, army and security officials, and Baath Party members, Dempsey said.
Membership in Baghdad’s insurgent groups appears to be fueled by Sunni Muslims who had been favored under Saddam Hussein’s regime and who have lost privileges since his ouster. Sunnis worry their lives will worsen if the Shiite Muslim majority gains power in elections, Dempsey said.
The Sunnis worry about pay back time as well they should.

You may wish to read the whole article.
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Southeast Asia
Timeline: Baasyir, Bombs & the Law

Baasyir’s current trouble with the Indonesian Government is not over Bali -- although those bad acts probably prompted his current troubles. Just give the Indonesians enough time, and Baasyir is not likely to roam free again . . .

In addition to his current case, Baasyir has attempted to sue Singapore and Time magazine for linking him to terrorism. Both lawsuits have been thrown out of court.

August 17, 1938: Baasyir is born in Pekunden village in Jombang, East Java province. His father and grandfather were immigrants from the Hadramawt region of southeastern Yemen. His mother was of mixed Yemeni and Javanese descent.

* * *

1982: Baasyir is released from jail after serving nearly four years of his subversion sentence. Continues to work underground for the cause of establishing shariah law in Indonesia.

April 1985: Flees to Malaysia to escape further imprisonment. Allegedly co-founds Jemaah Islamiyah. He also meets with an Afghanistan War veteran from West Java called Hambali, who goes on to become operational commander of Jemaah Islamiyah.

1998: Baasyir returns to Indonesia following the May 1998 resignation of Suharto. Resumes his role as head of the Islamic boarding school in Ngruki.

1999: Allegedly inherits the leadership of Jemaah Islamiyah following the death of Abdullah Sungkar.

August 2000: Co-founds the Indonesian Mujahidin Council, which wants secular Indonesia to adopt strict Islamic law.

December 24, 2000: Bomb blasts outside churches and priests’ houses kill 19 people across the country. Regional terrorism network Jemaah Islamiyah, which has been linked to Osama bin Laden’s al Qaeda network, is later blamed for the attacks.

October 12, 2002: Two nightclubs packed with revelers are bombed on the resort island of Bali, killing 202 people, mostly foreign tourists. Authorities later blame the attacks on Jemaah Islamiyah. Baasyir strongly denies allegations he is the spiritual leader of Jemaah Islamiyah.

* * *

October 19, 2002: Police arrest Baasyir, who remains in hospital, on charges of treason and authorizing the Christmas Eve 2000 church bombings.

* * *

April 23, 2003: Baasyir goes on trial at Central Jakarta District Court on four charges of treason, authorizing bombings, immigration offenses and falsifying identity documents.

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September 2, 2003: Central Jakarta District Court sentences Baasyir to four years in jail for treason and falsification of documents, but is acquitted of being the leader of Jemaah Islamiyah and of ordering the assassination of Megawati.

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Pre-November 24, 2003: Jakarta High Court, on a date yet to be publicly revealed, quashes Baasyir’s treason conviction but upholds his guilty verdict on the lesser charges of falsification of documents. His sentence is reduced from four years to three years. The ruling is not publicly announced until December.

* * *

December 2, 2003: Baasyir’s lawyers file an appeal to the Supreme Court against their client’s three-year conviction on falsification of identity documents and immigration violations.

Meanwhile, prosecutors say they will also go to the Supreme Court to appeal against the rulings of Central Jakarta District Court and Jakarta High Court. Salman Maryadi, head of the Central Jakarta Prosecution Office, says prosecutors are certain that judges at the Supreme Court will find Baasyir guilty of leading acts of treason.
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Politics Is Tough Everywhere
MPs from Thailand’s ruling Thai Rak Thai Party are getting hot under the collar over plans by the party leadership to ban them from having mistresses or visiting brothels.
Cheese. That's a national tradition...
Later this month, the party, led by the prime minister, Thaksin Shinawatra, will consider plans to screen candidates so that only faithful and monogamous husbands can stand in elections.
They're gonna have to import people...
One MP told The Nation newspaper that if the rules were enforced, the party would only be able to field around 30 candidates, compared to its more than 200 sitting MPs.
EFL
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Filippinos may raid MILF strongholds
The Philippine president warned on Monday that troops will not hesitate to pursue Jemaah Islamiyah militants in strongholds of the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, despite peace talks with the Muslim separatist group. Arroyo said the government "will not allow the peace process to stand in the way of the overriding fight against terrorism,’’ and "will not hesitate to pursue terrorists wherever they are and whenever they are pinpointed to be.’’

Defence Secretary Eduardo Ermita, citing intelligence reports, said on Sunday at least 31 Jemaah members were training MILF guerrillas in bombmaking at Mount Cararao and another location in central Mindanao, in the southern Philippines, that are known to be MILF strongholds. According to one intelligence report, the al-Qaeda terrorist organisation recently gave a Jemaah Islamiyah handler 15,000 dollars for the training, he said. The money was received and disbursed by Indonesian-born Jemaah Islamiyah fugitive Fathur Roman Al-Ghozi before he was gunned down in a shootout with troops last month, he said. "MILF formations will have to stand off these pursuit operations, or actively support us in the same,’’ Arroyo said in a statement. She said she has asked the government peace panel to bring the matter to the MILF’s attention, reminding the rebels of their commitment to purge their ranks of terrorists.

National Security Adviser Roilo Golez said the government had accepted the declaration of the MILF that it would not cooperate with Jemaah Islamiyah, and expects the rebels to help the government go after the militants. The MILF has denied links with foreign terrorists. Golez acknowledged individuals within the organisation may have linked up with Jemaah Islamiyah without their leadership’s approval. He said the government was putting up a 300 million peso (US$5.5 million) reward for information leading to the arrest of terrorists, including Jemaah members, as well as kidnappers. But he admitted the difficulty of running after foreign terrorists who slip across Southeast Asia’s porous borders, and who may have sleeper cells ready to be activated. The Philippines is tightening security arrangements with neighbors like Malaysia and Indonesia and is enhancing border security in the hunt for terrorists, he said. Golez said a region-wide security alert has been issued for key Jemaah leaders, specifically mentioning Azahari bin Husin, an alleged Malaysian bomb expert educated in Britain.
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#1  Watching the Philippinos fight terrorists is like Groundhog Day.
Posted by: Pete Stanley || 12/02/2003 4:05 Comments || Top||

#2  Dan / Pete -
I remember when US Special Forces were "training" with the Phils and donating tons of equipment to assist them in overcoming the huge advantage that MILF has in jungle cover. One of the US guys was quoted as saying that they copy us well and really seem to be getting the hang of it, but... But when we break and then tell 'em "Okay, now you do it." they seem to freeze up. They love the game when we're here with 'em, but don't show any enthusiasm for following their own officers when they take over the ops. And their officers seem terrified of making the calls in the field. Zero confidence at both levels - not to mention the back-stabbing from higher-ups back in Manilla.

Sounds like, to me, that this is a classic problem of professionalism. It will take years of it before the confidence and espirit de corps will be present - and recent officer "uprisings" indicate there are some fundamental and institutional problems that must be solved before that clock can even start. I don't wanna say they're doomed to fail, but they have a helluva long way to go before they can do it on their own.

Time to amend that Phil constitution that prevents us from fighting with them? That's the only way to jump-start it, it seems.

What do you guys think?
Posted by: .com || 12/02/2003 4:45 Comments || Top||

#3  There is a fundamental Filipino social problem - they really, really don't like taking initiative.
This is a problem of national character I think. Filipinos do not make good entrepreneurs, not even as immigrants to the US. They want to work under direction, they need leadership, and take well to foreign leadership - Speaking as a Filipino.
Posted by: buwaya || 12/02/2003 12:22 Comments || Top||

#4  C'mon, you're jiving us. Individual freedom, the cornerstone, once acquired grows on people and the entrepreneurial urge comes with self-confidence. All are a function of time.

I had several Mexi-Flip (as they called themselves) friends in San Diego - and they were as hungry for success as anyone else. I'll grant they were as American as tacos or lumpia, but isn't this true of tranplanted Fillipinos (using F instead of Ph following your lead), too? I think and hope the answer is absolutely! And wouldn't that also apply to free people in the Fillipines?

You've thrown a pretty big curve, here, bro! I've always seen people from different places to be essentially the same - only their experiences and the range of pressures (parents, peers, society, et al) shape them differently. The Iraqis, for instance, can shed some of their subservient and tribal habits with repeated applications of opportunity and individual choice to decide for themselves. Okay, enuff blather - help me out here!
Posted by: .com || 12/02/2003 13:14 Comments || Top||

#5  There is a fundamental Filipino social problem - they really, really don't like taking initiative.

Boy, you must not be talking about Filipino women. Everyone I have met (and after 24 years active duty that's a lot) is out for as much power as she can grab. The club system, BX, commisary, various small businesses and the odd small country, she wants to run it. And if you get in her way, look out!
Posted by: Steve || 12/02/2003 15:50 Comments || Top||

#6  If you go through Belmont Club's archives, he has a lot to say about the Philippenes. Quite educational.

As far as their constitution and US military action goes - I think the constitution allows for a foriegn military to operate on its soil, but only with the permission of congress. I say: nearly everyone in Manila is crooked anyway, let's bribe and blackmail enough politicians so we can do this thing.
Posted by: Pete Stanley || 12/02/2003 16:28 Comments || Top||


Policeman’s death leads to discovery of top secret US operation
Police Inspector Virgilio Erese Jr., 29, died evening of October 25 during a special commando operation in the interior village of Palimbang, Sultan Kudarat. Virgilio Jr. or Jun-jun, drowned when the Kraan River they were crossing at around 7 that night suddenly swelled. His immediate superior, Sr. Inspector Isauro del Rosario, 32, and enlisted man PO1 Jhorwin Langub, 26, of Alabel, Sarangani, attempted to save him, but they, too, were carried away by the rampaging waters and died as well. The deployment of the police officers in Palimbang was supposed to be the last leg of a rigorous training for elite police officers graduating from the Philippine National Police Academy (PNPA) this year. The death of Jun-jun and his companions led to the discovery of a heretofore hush-hush US-funded "top secret operations" in Mindanao.

Erese said that aside from the regular benefits given to a family of a police officer killed in action, they were entitled to a $3,000 cash assistance from the US government, which he was told, financed the "top secret" operation of the Special Action Force (SAF) against international terrorists - the Abu Sayyaf Group and the Jemaah Islamiyah. Shortly before the deployment of the SAF in Sultan Kudarat province on September 25, it was reported that a band of ASG responsible for abducting foreigners in Malaysia, were sighted along the coastal town of Palimbang. When Gil arrived at the funeral parlor in General Santos City, Erese recalled he was called and was told: "You know Mr. Erese, this operation that included your child is assisted by the US government and you are entitled to an assistance of $3,000. Since there are still some papers to be processed, we will give you an advance payment of P50,000. We will just mail the remaining P70,000. All other benefits that you are supposed to receive from the (Philippine) government will also be given to you."
Posted by: Dan Darling || 12/02/2003 1:07:13 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Terror Networks
UN sez al-Qaeda’s spreading
Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaeda network has continued to spread, with Iraq becoming a fertile ground for al-Qaeda supporters while anti-terror responses have been weak, a UN-appointed group said. While the group cited some progress in freezing assets of and banning travels by members of al-Qaeda and the former militants in Afghanistan, the Taliban, it said governments failed to cooperate in providing information regarding those members. "Without a tougher and more comprehensive resolution - a resolution which obligates states to take mandated measures - the role played by the United Nations in this important battle risks becoming marginalised," the group said in a report.

The group, known as the "Committee on Sanction on al-Qaeda, the Taliban and their associates", was created by the UN Security Council in the wake of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks against the United States. The council ordered a freeze of assets and a travel ban on al-Qaeda and Taliban members. The monitoring group has listed 371 names and organisations belonging to al-Qaeda and Taliban and has demanded governments provide information on 272 individuals for the purposes of asset freezing and travel ban. But it said governments had been reluctant to meet the request.

"With such large numbers of foreign and non-Muslim troops involved (in Iraq), it is proving an ideal ’battleground’ for followers of Osama bin Laden’s inspired ’World Islamic Front for Jihad against the Jews and Crusaders’," the report said, referring to the US-led coalition army in Iraq. The monitoring group tried to visit several Middle East countries in September to write the report. Saudi Arabia denied entry to the group. In Kuwait, the group sought information about the al-Qaeda-related Wafa Humanitarian Organisation, but was told that organisation did not exist. Yemen failed to provide names of those detained in the attack against the USS Cole in 2000. In Egypt, the group was told that Cairo had not received a UN letter requesting information on individuals on the list of al-Qaeda suspects. The report said it received little cooperation in Jordan, Syria and Morocco. It said governments in some countries were not aware of UN resolutions demanding information and cooperation in fighting global terrorism.
Maybe they're not paying attention?
Al-Qaeda was suspected of maintaining assets in 83 countries, but only 21 countries have reported freezing those assets. The total assets frozen amounted to $US75 million ($A103.38 million) with the United States accounting for $US70 million ($A96.49 million). Governments have been asked to provide information on asset freezing, but the report said they have been vague on the mechanism and structures put in place to identify and investigate banking institutions that may harbour those assets.

The UN arms embargo on al-Qaeda and Taliban has not been fully carried out, either. The report said, "States’ description of the measures (embargo) ... are more telling from the information they do not provide than from what they do provide." The UN has also asked for information on charity organisations, which have been suspected of financially helping al-Qaeda and the Taliban. But the monitoring group said some governments had resisted demands for information. It cited for example the al-Rashid Trust and its partners in Pakistan, and the Om al-Qura Foundation, which has branches in Thailand and Cambodia as well as in Bosnia and Chechnya. Little information was received from those organisations. "It has proven particularly difficult to pierce the charity veil and uncover the deep pocket donors, including business entities that provide such funding," the report said.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 12/02/2003 1:03:34 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yo, Mike! Time to pull out that Memo to the UN, methinks... ;-)
Posted by: .com || 12/02/2003 5:07 Comments || Top||

#2  "Please have your documentation at the enclosed address by 5 pm on Friday to avoid accidental bombing of your headquarters building(s)..."
Posted by: mojo || 12/02/2003 11:33 Comments || Top||


Home Front
Howie Dean: Bush knew about 9/11 and did nothing (but it’s just a rumor)
Dean: I don’t know. There are many theories about it. The most interesting theory that I’ve heard so far--which is nothing more than a theory, it can’t be proved (but that doesn’t mean I’m not going to keep smearing this around to see if it stinks) --is that he was warned ahead of time by the JOOOOOOOSS! oh, i meant the Saudis. Now who knows what the real situation is? I certainly don’t, but that’s not going to stop me from spouting this tripe But the trouble is, by suppressing that kind of information, you lead to those kinds of theories, whether they have any truth to them or not. And eventually they get repeated as fact. So I think the president is taking a great risk by suppressing the key information that should go to the Kean commission. but of course this is all just a rumor, and i don’t really want to bring it up

EFL
Posted by: donthetinfoilhat || 12/02/2003 11:11:45 PM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Isn't that the same charge Cynthia McKinney made?
Posted by: Fred || 12/02/2003 23:44 Comments || Top||


Africa: North
Saudi prince killed by GSPC
A Saudi prince was ambushed and killed by suspected extremists while hunting gazelles in the Algerian desert, newspaper reports said on Saturday.

Reports said the prince, identified as Talal bin Abdelaziz Al-Rasheed, was shot and killed during the night of Thursday to Friday in a confrontation in which nine people were killed and several injured.

He was described as a wealthy businessman and the editor of the Saudi illustrated magazine Fawasel. The convoy of four-wheel drive vehicles was ambushed in the Djelfa region, 250 kilometres south of Algiers, reports said.

Three Saudi nationals and four Algerians were taken hostage but were later rescued unharmed about 40 kilometres away in an operation by security forces, the daily El Khabar said.

Officials neither confirmed nor denied the reports.Le Soir d’Algerie said the Saudi government sent a special aircraft to Algiers on Friday to take back the prince’s body. Newspapers said the attack was probably carried out by members of the largest extremist movement in Algeria, the Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat (GSPC), which in September claimed its allegiance to Al Qaeda network.

The daily L’Expression said the attackers were probably acting in accordance with the instructions of their leader, Osama Bin Laden, who "has called the Saudi royal family a puppet of the Americans."
Posted by: Dan Darling || 12/02/2003 9:03:31 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hunting gazelles in the Algerian desert - is that like duck hunting? Or is it more like dying of "thirst"?
Posted by: Pete Stanley || 12/02/2003 21:45 Comments || Top||

#2  Isn't killing a Saudi prince like stepping on a cockroach?You know there a gazillion more where he came from.
Posted by: Insensitive || 12/02/2003 22:53 Comments || Top||

#3  Awwww, geez - ain't that just too bad.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 12/02/2003 23:00 Comments || Top||


Middle East
Bush’s Middle Eastern Quagmire and Apocalypse Future
Mostly a Islamo-Lefty rant, but with an interesting nugget on nuclear missiles going to Israel.
One trusts that an American electorate mesmerized by Reality TV and the NFL/NBA regular season schedules will stop long enough to contemplate the apocalyptic implications of Gordon Thomas’s October 27th exclusive for the American Free Press: that George Bush’s neo-conservative regime has secretly flown 100 Harpoon cruise missiles tipped with nuclear warheads to the joint American-UK military base stationed on the remote Indian Ocean island of Diego Garcia. Thomas informs us that it is now known where 72 of these Harpoons have been subsequently assigned--to three Israeli Dolphin-class submarines (24 apiece) that have subsequently left Diego for the Gulf of Oman. The purpose? To target Iranian nuclear facilities well within the range of the Dolphins and their collective nuclear-tipped payload supplied by the United States. Most ominously, these instruments of mass death and destruction are under the command-and-launch decision making authority of one Ariel Sharon, whose moral, political, and military mindset is best revealed by his pivotal role in the Sabra and Shatila massacres in southern Lebanon in 1982, along with occupational policies on the West Bank and Gaza that have recently included the deliberate IDF bulldozing to death of Olympia, Washington’s Rachel Corrie, an unarmed peace activist protesting Palestinian house demolitions sanctioned by the Sharon government.

It gets worse. The Thomas story has subsequently been confirmed by a senior aide to Bush National Security Advisor Condolezza Rice for both the Los Angeles Times and London’s Guardian newspaper.

Where, pray tell, is the American media and Congress in confronting George Bush with the absolutely incomprehensible decision to supply any government--much less the Sharon regime in Tel Aviv--with American nuclear weaponry and the accompanying authority to decide if, when, and against whom the Apocalpyse is to be unleashed? Who are the powers in his Administration who have set this obviously reckless and derailing course of action in motion? May we conclude that they are largely the same advisors--with direct connections to the Likud regime in Israel--who urged the President to involve American men and women in an ill-conceived preemptive strike against Iraq, where the fraudulent Administration claims about Weapons of Mass Destruction in that country are made all the more maddening by the obvious, enveloping quicksand of death, debt, and international ill-will increasing exponentially by the day? And where are the medallioned luminaries of the Joint Chiefs of Staff in this nightmare--scheduling this week’s tee times at the Congressional Country Club?

Pat Buchanan correctly observes that Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Perle, Feith, Wurmser and Company have now placed themselves, and their countrymen, in mortal peril with the neo-conservative strategy on preemptive military action against Iraq and the subsequent occupation. As Mr. Buchanan analyzes things, the Project for the New American Century crowd has only three options in the political and military morass created since March. The first is to withdraw from Iraq completely, an option made problematic by the subsequent power vacuum, civil war, and outside interventionism that would surely follow. A second involves continuing the present course of action by priming the pump of American lives and dollars in the elusive hope that a responsible government and economic infrastructure for the Iraqi people can emerge from the present chaos and violence. Buchanan notes here that the elusiveness of the goal is matched by the thinning of the patience and political will of the American electorate for Mr. Bush’s version of the War on Terrorism and For World Democracy. The third is the most ominous of all--a deliberate escalation of American military interventionism in the Middle East by preemptive attacks against Syria and Iran, with all of the attendant risks.

The Thomas report on Harpoons for the American Free Press must be seen as the most significant sign yet that it is the third option which has been selected in the secret and dark inner counsels of the Bush national security team. The Boys of Empire and Sharon lead us to Apocalypse Future.
Can any Rantburgers confirm any details about Israel having submarines and whether Harpoon missiles can be nuclear armed. If true it answers the question how could Israel take out the Iranian nuclear plants.

I recall that the US does store nuclear weapons at Diego Garcia.
Posted by: phil_b || 12/02/2003 7:48:49 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Last I checked the Harpoon missile doesn't have a range greater than 150 miles (SLAM-ER was supposed to replace these for anti-ship capability). Take this whole article with a can of salt.
Posted by: Valentine || 12/02/2003 19:58 Comments || Top||

#2  Israel has Dolphin subs - there are many comments about a month ago on this...also they may have cruise missiles
Posted by: Frank G || 12/02/2003 20:01 Comments || Top||

#3  I seriously doubt that any US president would ever hand over a US nuclear weapon to any foreign power, or the arming codes that go with it.
Posted by: john || 12/02/2003 20:10 Comments || Top||

#4  I found several recent articles using GOOGLE.
Israel has three of the German made Dolphins. Two were donated in 1997 and Israel bought the third one.
Isreal tested cruise missles capable of carrying nuclear weapons in 2000. Israeli defence sources claim the country has secretly carried out its first test launches from submarines of cruise missiles capable of carrying nuclear warheads. The launches last month from German-built vessels in the Indian Ocean were designed to simulate swift retaliation against a pre-emptive nuclear attack from Iran. the article is here.
I'm sure that Super Hose and some other have a lot more info, but this is a start.
Posted by: Gasse Katze || 12/02/2003 20:17 Comments || Top||

#5  This report embodies some seriously industrial-strength paranoia. American nukes simply given to Israel, for use against Iran? That's pretty damn far out.

Oh, well; at least we've got the bastards scared.
Posted by: Dave D. || 12/02/2003 20:26 Comments || Top||

#6  I seriously doubt that any US president would ever hand over a US nuclear weapon to any foreign power, or the arming codes that go with it.

The UK gets its nuclear weapons from the USA and has done so for many years. I think it goes back to an agreement that incorporated the UK's nuclear weapons program into the USA's program in exchange for the US providing nuclear warheads to the UK.
Posted by: phil_b || 12/02/2003 20:28 Comments || Top||

#7  I hardly think the Israelis need us to give them nukes. They've got their own.
Posted by: Pete Stanley || 12/02/2003 21:41 Comments || Top||

#8  The LA Times, pass the salt please, reported on Oct 12 2003 that Israel had modified US Harpoons to carry Israeli nuclear warheads.

U.S. and Israeli officials have declined directly to address this news report.

The Los Angeles Times reported Oct. 12 that two senior Bush administration officials said Israel has modified U.S. Harpoon cruise missiles, which can be launched from submarines, to deliver nuclear warheads. The paper added that an Israeli official confirmed the American statements. All three spoke on the condition of anonymity.


Although Israel refuses to confirm or deny whether it possesses nuclear weapons, it is almost universally recognized as having built up an atomic arsenal. Typical estimates of the arsenal’s size range from weapons numbering in the high tens to a couple hundred. Israel fields medium-range ballistic missiles and U.S.-supplied fighter aircraft capable of delivering nuclear weapons.

The Arms Control Today article is here.
Posted by: Gasse Katze || 12/02/2003 21:41 Comments || Top||

#9  Israel has two other sub-launched missile types besides the Harpoon.
Posted by: Pappy || 12/02/2003 22:32 Comments || Top||

#10  This "report" is total BS!I like the nice way the author(s) try to dazzle with bull as in following-"...confirmed by a senior aide to Bush National Security Advisor Condoleeza Rice...".Looks impressive,until you realize the aide is not named,that there is not a single person actually named who is involved.The only facts in story are Israel has subs that can fire cruise missiles and the US stores nukes at Diego Garcia.Using the same type of facts I can report that THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION HAS SOLD NUCLEAR-TIPPED HARPOON CRUISE MISSILES TO JAPAN TO HELP PAY FOR IRAQ RECONSTRUCTION.
I can confidently report that US Navy ships routinely refuse to admit they are carrying nuclear-tipped Harpoon into Japanese ports.With few countries willing to pay the costs of the US occupation of Iraq,the right-wing Bush Administration is looking for money.After watching Bush abandon the successful policy of President Clinton in negotiating w/North Korea,Japan has become worried over N.Korea's reactions to American provocations.A devil's bargain was then struck-the US sold 24 nuclear-tipped Harpoons for retalitory use from JSDF destroyers.A senior aide to American Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has refused to comment on whether US ships entered Japanese ports with Nuclear-tipped Harpoons or left Japanese ports without nuclear-tipped Harpoons.
Posted by: Stephen || 12/02/2003 23:57 Comments || Top||

#11  #11
Keee-ristmas Steven. I think you have found a way to run up your hit counter, if you have one. The Liberal Left Loonies will be quoting your story as fact for years to come. Links will follow.
Well done. I wish I could write like that.
Posted by: Larry Everett || 12/03/2003 0:35 Comments || Top||

#12  #,11 &12,
I meant Stephen.
Sorry 'bout that.
Posted by: Larry Everett || 12/03/2003 0:46 Comments || Top||


International
Good Bye Kyoto...
Fifteen years of international effort to combat climate change appeared doomed last night after Russia said it would not ratify the Kyoto protocol, the world treaty on global warming.
You can still hear the sound of liberals jerking off about this ’setback’
Russian ratification is necessary for the treaty to take effect. Andrei Illarionov, a senior economic adviser to President Vladimir Putin, said in a surprise announcement in Moscow that Russia was refusing to sign the agreement, because to do so would threaten the country’s economic growth.
At last, the only true thing about Kyoto to be published in a long, long time.
The decision means the collapse of the mechanism, agonisingly constructed by thous- ands of officials from more than 150 countries over a decade and a half, for the world to try to deal with its greatest threat.
No, the greatest threat was enviro-commies. Jeez, can’t this writer get anything right?
United Nations scientists now predict that global average temperatures may rise by up to 6C by the end of the century in a profound climatic destabilisation that will result in fiercer storms and rising sea levels.
Notice the ’up to’ phrase. That means the temp is just as likely not to rise at all
In large areas of the world, agriculture may become impossible; other parts may become uninhabitable because of flooding, hurricanes, increased disease, or the disappearance of the land. This will take place while the earth’s population is rising towards 10 billion or more.
Note, the use of the word ’may’. Brilliant rhetoric, albeit crappy objectivity by the reporter.
Ironically, Mr Illarionov’s announcement coincided with the publication of a UN report suggesting that skiing would soon be impossible in many European winter resorts because rising temperatures were leading to the disappearance of snow.
I guess the whole idea of Kyoto was so liberals can have their ski resorts. You know how this works. They complain about something that they can’t allow because of some policy they disagree with, then they ban it.
Although diplomats were trying last night to clarify the status of the Russian announcement, its unequivocal nature is the clearest sign that Moscow sees too many drawbacks in the pact to limit emissions of the greenhouse gases, principally carbon dioxide from motor vehicles and electricity generation, which are causing the atmosphere to heat.
There is scant evidence the automotive and industrial emissions are responsible for global warming, assuming that a contstant rise in temp can even been gaged.
Since the treaty was agreed in December 1997, 120 countries including Britain have ratified it, but its fate has hung by a Russian thread since President George Bush, the oilman son of an oilman father, withdrew the US from it in March 2001, also alleging a threat to economic competitiveness.
the ’oilman’ tag is critical to this leftwinger. You know that oil is an evil commodity: that is why they tax it at every level.
To take effect, the treaty has to be ratified by nations responsible for 55 per cent or more of the greenhouse gas emissions of the industrialised countries in 1990. In the absence of the US, the world’s biggest emitter with 25 per cent of the total, this could not be achieved without the Russian contribution of 17 per cent.
So sad. Too bad.
Mr Illarionov did not mince his words when he made his announcement after a meeting between President Putin and European businessmen. "In its current form, this protocol cannot be ratified," he said. "The Kyoto protocol places significant limitations on the economic growth of Russia. It’s impossible to undertake responsibilities that place serious limits on the country’s growth."

The chances of the protocol being substantially renegotiated to satisfy Mr Illarionov are nil, so it is in its current form that it will stand or fall.

At the outset, Russia was confidently expected to ratify, but in the past 18 months Russian ministers and officials had raised increasing concerns by a series of will-we, won’t-we statements. A decision had been expected next spring after the Russian elections.

There have been rumours over the past few months that the Americans have been putting pressure on the Russians to pull out of Kyoto. American withdrawal meant the loss of one of Kyoto’s biggest attractions for the Russians - the chance to sell to the US, for billions of dollars, their notional surplus emissions of greenhouse gases, brought about by the collapse of Russian heavy industry in the 1990s.

This year has produced new evidence of a rapidly changing and destabilising climate. India, Sri Lanka and the US have registered record high temperatures, rainfall and tornadoes; Europe has seen record heatwaves, unprecedented forest fires and great rivers, such as the Po in Italy, reduced to a trickle.
We’re always recording record high temps. Right now winter in Oklahoma has been pretty darn cold so far, just like it has in decades passed.
Posted by: badanov || 12/02/2003 7:27:49 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  good hackjob by the Independent. Excellent journalistic science from guys that had to take remedial math to get out of prep/high school. Never fails to amaze me, I just thank God Gore lost or we might've signed on to this western fossil-fuel guilt pact. Note that nobody in a modern industrialized society's met (or even tried) their Kyoto cuts?
Posted by: Frank G || 12/02/2003 19:36 Comments || Top||

#2  I imagine more than one government leader is breathing a sigh of relief as the economic impact of this junk science was enormous. However, just as many will continue to avail themselves of increased fossil fuel consumption taxes, for the children.
Posted by: john || 12/02/2003 20:18 Comments || Top||

#3  Naturally, the Canadian government (wholly-owned subsidiary of France and the Sierra Club) rushed to say that it would go ahead with its Kyoto plans, whether anyone else did so or not. For those outside Canada, please note that the auto industry in Eastern Canada has been given an exemption from Kyoto (Ontario voted solidly for the Govern-for-ever Liberals) whilst the Canadian oil business (in Alberta) is squarely in the sights of the Tax-and-Steal eastern liberal "elite".
Posted by: Patrick B || 12/02/2003 21:29 Comments || Top||


Middle East
World Bank pumps $15 mln down the rathole to Palestinian Authority
The World Bank is giving the Palestinian Authority’s finance ministry an emergency $15 million grant to improve battered education, health and social services in the West Bank and Gaza.
Hamas, Fatah and IJ must be short of weapons stocks - think 10% of this money will reach the people it’s "meant" to help?
"The grant will finance goods and operating expenditures such as water, electricity, rent, ammo, which are essential to deliver education, health and social welfare programs, as well as items to keep key economic management ministries functioning," the bank said in a statement Tuesday. The grant follows a $25 million transfer made at the end of last year for the same emergency services project in Suha’s apartment in Paris the West Bank and Gaza. "After three years of ’intifada’ all Palestinian economic indicators show steep decline," the bank said.
no shit? cause/effect anyone?
Surely no one could have foreseen that? Surely someone cares?
Gross domestic product has shrunk by more than 30 percent since before the Palestinian uprising and although there have been signs the economy is stabilizing, it is a very low level, the bank said. The Palestinian Authority’s fiscal position is "precarious," the bank said, with a budget gap of about $25 million a month, partly because budget support from donors was lower than expected. "Donor support for the budget has dwindled rapidly in recent months, partly because support from Arab League states has fallen short of pledges, and partly because support from the European Commission -- while committed -- has been disbursed at a slower pace than anticipated," the bank said
Partly because donors are tired of Arafat and cronies pilfering funds
Posted by: Frank G || 12/02/2003 7:14:50 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  You mean the World Bank is giving money for the types of school books the Palestinian children have been reading???!!! Supporting the same teachers that teach their kids jihad and play with (hopefully) play handgrenades in the classroom? God save us all!!!!!
Posted by: SamIII || 12/02/2003 20:49 Comments || Top||

#2  "After three years of ’intifada’ all Palestinian economic indicators show steep decline," the bank said.

So, the solution is to perpetuate the sorry situation by throwing in even more money? Shit, give ME the $15 mil. I can do a lot more good with it than the Palestinian Authority any day.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 12/02/2003 21:14 Comments || Top||


Home Front
Free DVD Tribute to Ground Zero workers from DoL
Hat tip: TechBargains.com.
Description at Dept. of Labor link reads:

“Up From Zero” is a documentary film that pays tribute to the brave men and women of the New York City building trades who put themselves on the line on September 11, 2001 – and for nine months afterward – to reclaim Ground Zero. Thousands of these workers had converged on Lower Manhattan in the immediate aftermath of the attacks to help in the rescue, recovery, and clean up efforts at the World Trade Center. Ground Zero was the most dangerous work site in America, and these men and women worked at great personal risk. It is a tribute to their courage and skill that they completed the job ahead of schedule and without serious injuries. The documentary contains original film footage and personal interviews with the workers.
It’s your tax dollars that paid for it--might as well claim one!
Posted by: Dar || 12/02/2003 6:55:59 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ordered mine almost 2 months ago and still haven't gotten it yet. I suspect it was a popular item.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 12/02/2003 19:09 Comments || Top||


Middle East
Israel Raps U.S. for Planned Talks with Geneva Authors
Israel issued a rare rebuke to Washington, its closest ally, on Tuesday, saying Secretary State Colin Powell would be making a mistake if he met the architects of a symbolic Middle East peace plan.

Vice Premier Ehud Olmert sharply criticized Powell for praising the unofficial Geneva Accord, whose co-authors are trying to capitalize on broad international support following its launch on Monday at a gala ceremony in Switzerland. Both Israel’s right-leaning government and Palestinian militants spearheading a three-year-old uprising have denounced the agreement, drafted by moderates from both sides, as "capitulation."

U.S. officials say Powell is willing to meet the plan’s co-authors in Washington later this week, a sign of growing impatience with Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon’s foot-dragging on a stalled international peace "road map." "I think he (Powell) is making a mistake," Olmert told Israel Radio of the expected talks. "I think he is not helping the process. I think this is a wrong step by a representative of the American administration."

But a Western diplomat said: "Geneva is positive because it fills a political vacuum...Even Sharon is paying attention."
Underlining the obstacles facing any new peace push, Israeli troops shot dead a militant linked to Palestinian President Yasser Arafat’s Fatah faction during a tank raid in the West Bank town of Jenin on Tuesday, security sources said.

Palestinians say such incursions, including one in which three militants and a six-year-old boy were killed in Ramallah on Monday, could provoke militants to resume suicide bombings in the Jewish state after a two-month lull. Amid heightened tensions, leaders from Hamas, Islamic Jihad and other militant groups planned to launch a new round of talks in Cairo on Thursday -- two days later than scheduled -- on whether to suspend attacks against Israel, officials said. Participants in the negotiations, considered crucial to reviving the U.S.-backed road map, said they were unlikely to declare a truce unless Israel reciprocated.

FESTIVE GENEVA LAUNCH

The latest Israeli raids stood in sharp contrast to Monday’s festive roll-out of the alternative Geneva Accord, which drew praise from world leaders past and present. The plan, co-authored by Israeli left-wing opposition politician Yossi Beilin and former Palestinian cabinet member Yasser Abed Rabbo, has increased public pressure on both sides to start talking in earnest.

A spokesman for Beilin said the meeting with Powell, who has called the plan "useful" but no substitute for the road map, was expected on Friday.

Olmert said there was an "element of subversion" in the Israeli role in the Geneva deal because of funding the negotiators received from the Swiss government. Like the road map initiative, the Geneva Accord envisages a Palestinian state in Israeli-occupied territory. But it goes beyond the road map by calling for the removal of Jewish settlements, division of Jerusalem and the right of Israel to decide how many Palestinian refugees to accept.

A new opinion poll showed more Israelis were warming to the accord, with 31 percent in favor and 37 percent against compared with 25 and 54 percent respectively in October, hinting at rising discontent about Sharon’s hardline policies.

Arafat and his prime minister, Ahmed Qurie, have welcomed the Geneva initiative but stopped short of endorsing it.


Posted by: Jarhead || 12/02/2003 3:05:08 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Think GWB and Condi would welcome direct negotiations between , say.... Netanyahu and Ralph Nader over US policy? Neither do I - time to rein in the State Dept and Colin in particular
Posted by: Frank G || 12/02/2003 19:08 Comments || Top||


International
Mr. Magoo Comes out of Retirement
Former chief United Nations weapons inspector Hans Blix, a key figure in the run-up to this year’s American-led invasion of Iraq, is to head a new UN commission to deal with weapons of mass destruction worldwide, he said in an interview published in Moscow on Tuesday. Blix, who retired in June after three years as head of the UN Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC), told the business daily Kommersant that he was forming the commission to look into WMD-related issues "in Iran, Iraq, North Korea, in the whole world".
Nothing to see there, Blixie. But you already know that, right? But, hey, weren’t you quoted as saying you’re more concerned with globabl warming than you are WMDs?
The new commission "will appear in late January and will work for a couple of years," Blix told the paper without elaborating, although it appeared the new body would be UN-mandated.
Ah. "A couple of years." It’s all about job securuity, not global security.
The former Swedish diplomat, 75, headed the UN commission that carried out 15 weeks of inspections in Iraq in the run-up to the US-led invasion but was unable to find his ass with both hands evidence bearing out US allegations that the Iraqi regime possessed WMD, including nuclear weapons, and was capable of delivering them over long distances. Since the end of the conflict, Blix has consistently attacked US policy in the months preceding the war, accusing Washington and its chief ally Britain of interpreting intelligence reports solely in ways that suited their own requirements.
He’s pissed they didn’t interpret things in ways that suited his requirements.
Blix said he believed US President George Bush and his collaborators were sincerely convinced the banned weapons existed. "It was like the witch-hunts in the Middle Ages. If you’re convinced that witches exist, you’ll look around until you find them," he said.
And if you want to keep that sweet oil money flowing into UN coffers, you’ll look halfheartedly or turn a blind eye.
The new commission will discuss ways of ensuring that the information it receives on weapons of mass destruction are objective and of avoiding a repetition of the situation in Iraq, Blix told the newspaper.
Objective? I’m laughing so hard I just fell out of my chair.
Posted by: growler || 12/02/2003 2:45:20 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The first country to start with is the US.
Israel, you're next.
Posted by: Daniel King || 12/02/2003 15:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Dan I don't think Blix could find WMD if we gave him the Admirals tour of Kings Bay.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/02/2003 15:47 Comments || Top||

#3  The first country to start with is the US.

Maybe we can throw him down an empty missile silo.
Posted by: mxmissilesuptheass || 12/02/2003 15:49 Comments || Top||

#4  I'm curious how he enjoyed his Left Bank apartment, Belgiam chocolates, and Russian caviar? I'd bet an audit of Mssr Blix's financial transactions over the last year would prove fascinating.

And I'd also wager that Mssr Elbarradai is enjoying his new Lexus SUV, sporting the new Glows-in-the-Dark hand-rubbed laquer finish, courtesy of Black Hat Toyota - Lexus - Cobalt Testing Labs -- Blessed by Ayatollahs and from the only top dealer - centrifuge lab in Teheran! Get yours today!
Posted by: .com || 12/02/2003 21:10 Comments || Top||


Middle East
IDF hits Hamas infrastructure
JPost - Reg Req'd
Three senior Hamas fugitives and a nine-year-old boy were killed during a wide-ranging operation against the Hamas infrastructure in Ramallah that was concluded late Monday afternoon. Twenty-nine suspects were arrested, two bomb factories and a belt containing 20 kg. of explosives blown up, and three buildings demolished.
Score: IDF - 35, Hamas - 0
Operation New Momentum was launched late Sunday night with elite IDF, Border Police units, engineering and armored units entering Ramallah, which was placed under partial curfew. In most parts of the city Palestinians remained unrestricted throughout the IDF raid. As troops conducted house-to-house searches for fugitives and explosives, IDF officials informed their Palestinian Authority counterparts of the operation under way, stressing it was aimed at the Hamas infrastructure and that troops had no intention of entering PA Chairman Yasser Arafat's Mukata compound, and would leave the area after completing the mission.
"Just letting you know - we're taking out the trash - don't need to say "thank you" - it was our pleasure"
Palestinians reported 16 to 20 wounded, including fugitive senior Hamas commander Sheikh Ibrahim Hamed, who was believed to have been hurt and possibly killed when a five-story building in which he is thought to have been hiding was leveled by security forces.
heh heh...is that his elbow over there?
Hamed is suspected of planning numerous terror attacks in which 68 Israelis were murdered and over 550 wounded. The attacks include the suicide bomb attack at Jerusalem's Moment Cafe in March 2002, the suicide bomb attack at the Sheffield Snooker Club in Rishon Lezion in May 2002, the bomb attack at the Frank Sinatra Cafeteria at Jerusalem's Hebrew University in July 2002, a bus bomb attack in Tel Aviv in October 2002 and the suicide bomb attack at the entrance to the Tzrifin army base in September this year. In the past month, security forces forces have succeeded in foiling over 25 terrorist attacks by arresting key figures affiliated with Hamas, Islamic Jihad and Fatah, security officials said. Currently, the number of terror warnings registered by the security establishment stands at 50. Col. Roni Numa, the Binyamin district commander, said Operation New Momentum had been planned for some time and the completion of a long period of intelligence gathering enabled the operation to begin on Sunday night. "There is no significance to the timing; the operation was launched as soon as it was possible to do so," he told reporters in a briefing on Monday afternoon.
Geneva "accords"? what "accords"?
Security forces dealt the Hamas infrastructure in the city a heavy blow, but this does not mean that it will not be able to launch an attack tomorrow, he said. Hamas was planning further attacks against Israelis, Numa noted, as proven by the bombs hidden inside basketballs, the explosives belt as well as the large amount of weapons, explosives, detonators and ingredients used to prepare bombs found by security forces in buildings they searched and later blown up.
"would you blow up this ball for me?" is taking on new meaning...
Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz praised the security forces and the Shin Bet for conducting a successful operation. "Reality required such an operation. We had concrete information that senior Hamas officials were planning to carry out attacks in Israel," said Mofaz. Two of the fugitives killed by security forces shot at troops from a building east of the Amari refugee camp. The two had in their possession a number of Kalashnikov rifles, explosives and a belt containing at least 20 kilograms of explosives. One was identified as Salah Hassin Talahme, 37, who is said to have been involved in planning numerous terrorist attacks. The third Hamas fugitive killed by troops threw grenades and shot at soldiers deployed in the Umm Shawayat neighborhood.
bad move - idiot
The IDF said it was checking Palestinian reports that Abdul Rahman Hamdan, nine, was killed by IDF gunfire in Al-Bireh adjacent to Ramallah. wasn't this the kid shot by his own brother?
Elsewhere, an IDF officer was lightly wounded when shots were fired at a patrol near the security fence around Gush Katif close to Ganei Tal. The officer was taken to the hospital for treatment. An antitank rocket was fired at army forces deployed near Rafah. No one was wounded but an IDF vehicle was damaged. Shots were also fired at an IDF post near Ganei Tal and at an IDF base in Neveh Dekalim. In the West Bank, in Hebron early Monday morning, security forces demolished the three-story home of Ahmed Ottaman Muhammad Shafik Bader, a senior Hamas member who planned, recruited and dispatched terrorists to infiltrate Israeli communities and carry out shooting and bomb attacks against Israeli citizens in the West Bank and Jerusalem.
urban renewal
In Tulkarm, a bomb was found in a building security forces were searching for terror suspects. It was detonated. In a raid carried out by Border Police and the IDF, a Tanzim fugitive attempting to evade arrest was shot and wounded. after treatment in a hospital in Israel he will be handed over to the Shin Bet for questioning. Shots were fired at an elite Border Police unit and four other fugitives were arrested in the city by security forces during the day. Shots were also fired at soldiers in the Balata refugee camp in Nablus.
Posted by: Frank G || 12/02/2003 2:31:07 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Was the bomb found in a building in Tulkarm exploded in or out of the building?
Posted by: SamIII || 12/02/2003 15:03 Comments || Top||

#2  Twenty-nine suspects were arrested, two bomb factories and a belt containing 20 kg. of explosives blown up, and three buildings demolished.

The belt should've been strapped to a known terrorist before detonating it, like say Arafart, or Yassin.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 12/02/2003 15:07 Comments || Top||


Home Front
Dean Gets Soviet Union endorsement
From ScrappleFace
(2003-12-02) -- Democrat presidential candidate Howard Dean today picked up another big labor endorsement. The former Vermont governor’s candidacy is already backed by the largest American unions for both service workers (SEIU) and government employees (AFSCME). This time the pledge of support came from what was formerly one of the world’s most powerful unions -- the Soviet Union.

In hindsight, it was no coincidence that Mr. Dean mentioned the union four times during an interview yesterday on the MSNBC show ’Hardball.’ When asked what he would do about Iran, Mr. Dean said,"The key, I believe, to Iran, is pressure through the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union is supplying much of the equipment that Iran I believe mostly likely is using to set itself along the path of developing nuclear weapons. We need to use that leverage with the Soviet Union, and it may require us buying the equipment the Soviet Union was ultimately going to sell to Iran, to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons."

A spokesman for the Soviet Union said that Mr. Dean’s suggestion that the government buy union-made goods was influential in the group’s decision to back his White House bid.

"We know Howard was trolling for an endorsement," said the unnamed source, "but that’s the way the game is played. Frankly, we’re flattered that he mentioned us on national TV. These days, even when we do get attention, people call us ’the former Soviet Union’ as if we’re a relic of a bygone era. Comrade Dean has demonstrated his solidarity with the Soviet Union, and we plan to return the favor in 2004."
Posted by: Atrus || 12/02/2003 1:51:11 PM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Unbelievable. That assmunch doesn't know the difference between the USSR and modern Russia. I guess he's still in denial about Reagan ending the Cold War.

And this idiot wants to be President? Can he please point to the 'Soviet Union' on a map? Sullivan is right, if Dubya said something like this, the 'media' would be going apeshit. Dean gets a pass for stupidity because he's progressive.
Posted by: Anonymous || 12/02/2003 14:34 Comments || Top||

#2  I hope you're being sarcastic. This article is SATIRE from Scrappleface. Don't feel badly however, I've fired off comments before reading the entire post too. :)
Posted by: whitecollar redneck || 12/02/2003 14:58 Comments || Top||

#3  Sadly, the part about Dean referring to Russia as "the Soviet Union" four times is accurate.

OK, I'll admit I've caught myself doing that a few times, but I CATCH it, and I'm not running for president.

Remember the little "gotcha" they tried to use against Bush -- that he didn't know the name of the dictator president of Pakistan? If that was news-worthy, this is a HUNDRED times so.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 12/02/2003 15:08 Comments || Top||

#4  This article is SATIRE from Scrappleface

Hmmm, sorry no. There's a transcript of the Hardball show which you can read and see for yourself HERE. (probably a good idea to get it before msnbc takes it down)

Once again, I ask you what the reaction in the media would be had Bush made such uninformed and ignorant comments about geopolitics.
Posted by: checkandrechecksources || 12/02/2003 15:20 Comments || Top||

#5  You gotta read the whole interview... it's hilarious. I put some choice quotes on my blog ;)
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 12/02/2003 16:50 Comments || Top||

#6  Even worse, he spells it "Soviete Unione"!
Posted by: Mr. Garibaldi || 12/02/2003 18:25 Comments || Top||

#7  DPA funny and disturbing at the same time. Wonder what a 50-state sweep looks like? Wonder how the Dimocrats will spin that? 2004!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 12/02/2003 19:09 Comments || Top||

#8  "Wonder how the Dimocrats will spin that?"

He rigged the election! The Donk won by a wide margin! [/MOONBAT]
Posted by: Korora || 12/02/2003 21:02 Comments || Top||


Korea
Pyongyang: Lookin’ out for their SK homies
This link courtesy of some yahoo at Fark.com. You can follow the link for even more fun stories, or you can read the article in full here:
Tremendous Damage Caused by U.S. Imperialists to S. Korea Estimated
Pyongyang (KCNA) -- The Committee for the Peaceful Reunification of the Fatherland and the National Reunification Institute made public a memorandum on November 28 after making a joint comprehensive survey of the human and material damage caused by the U.S. imperialists to the south Korean people since it occupied south Korea on September 8, 1945 and estimating its total amount. The memorandum said:

The U.S. imperialists killed in cold blood at least 2,240,000 civilians and patriots or 10 percent of the population of south Korea right after their occupation of south Korea (September 1945-May 1950) and during the Korean war of aggression (June 1950-July 1953). At least 83,000 innocent people were killed by the U.S. imperialists’ firing, violence, terrorism, robbery, rape, arson, deliberate traffic incident, spread of contagious diseases and spray of defoliant in the postwar period (August 1953-present). According to compiled data, a total of over 2,323,000 people were killed and 6,520,000 wounded.

The amount of damage inflicted by the U.S. imperialists upon the south Korean people runs into astronomical figures. If the victims are considered to be still alive and the income to be earned by them during their lifetime plus its interest and the changed value of U.S. dollar, etc. are estimated by the calculation method according to the international usage, the amount of damage caused to the dead is estimated to be 9,343,020,050,000 U.S. dollars, the amount of damage to the wounded 13,105,728,120,000 U.S. dollars, bringing the total amount of human damage to 22,448,748,170,000 U.S. dollars.

If a total amount of damage including the confiscation of "enemy property," the levy of taxes, extortion of grains is estimated at the present price, it amounts to 4,281,665,880,000 U.S. dollars. A total amount of damage caused by destruction runs into 5,145,398,340,000 U.S. dollars when estimated at the present price, and the amount of damage resulting from "aid" totals 2,341,469,900,000 U.S. dollars and the amount of damage incurred by trade and the market opening totals 1,413,903,760,000 U.S. dollars. If the amount of damage caused by the infiltration of U.S. monopoly capital plus its interest is estimated at the present price, it comes to 4,233,270,160,000 U.S. dollars.

This means, in the final analysis, the U.S. imperialists have inflicted upon south Korea material and economic losses worth 17,415,708,040,000 U.S. dollars through plunder, destruction, "aid," trade and the market opening and the infiltration of capital since their occupation of south Korea. Meanwhile, the loss south Korea has suffered due to the U.S. military bases totals 127,792,170,000 U.S. dollars and the loss incurred by its payment of the expenses for the upkeep of the U.S. troops in south Korea is estimated at 705,395,760,000 U.S. dollars. South Korea’s loss caused by the forced purchase of war equipment totals 1,083,633,580,000 U.S. dollars when its interest and the changed value of a U.S. dollar are taken into account.

The U.S. imperialists have staged a total of 13,700 war exercises of various forms in south Korea, counting only those made public. The amount of damage caused by them is estimated to be 577,742,910,000 U.S. dollars. If the amount of damage caused to the land, forests and rivers and streams by environmental pollution and destruction is estimated on the basis of the expenses for restoring them to their original state, it totals 780 billion U.S. dollars. A total amount of military damage the U.S. imperialists have inflicted upon south Korea totals 3,274,564,420,000 U.S. dollars.

They have vandalized and looted at least 38,100 cultural treasures since their occupation of south Korea. They are valued at hundreds of billions of U.S. dollars. They have smuggled drug worth 12 billion U.S. dollars into south Korea during their presence in south Korea, rendering the people mentally and physically deranged. They have brutally violated many south Korean women and reduced them to sexual slaves, producing hundreds of thousands of foreigners’ whores and mixed-bloods. The sexual damage caused by the U.S. imperialist aggressor troops to south Korea amounts to more than a hundred billion U.S. dollars even when it is calculated according to the standard of compensation to be made for the sexual slavery for the Imperial Japanese Army.

The above-said estimates are based on a scientific review of various data quoted by statistical yearbooks officially released by the south Korean authorities, publications printed in south Korea and abroad, testimonies of individuals, information available from political, financial, academic, press and various other circles of south Korea and reports of the U.S., Japanese and other foreign media. The damage was surveyed according to the international usage and in conformity with the specific conditions of south Korea. The amount of damage was estimated according to the formula commonly used worldwide. The total amount of human and material damage the U.S. imperialists have inflicted upon the south Korean people for nearly 60 years since their occupation of south Korea runs into 43,139,020,630,000 U.S. dollars.
Golly - I guess you CAN put a price on human suffering.
Posted by: ccwbass (formerly FormerLiberal) || 12/02/2003 12:56:10 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And yet the South Koreans aren't searching for grass and tree bark to make their next meal.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 12/02/2003 13:15 Comments || Top||

#2  .....At least 83,000 innocent people were killed by the U.S. imperialists’ firing, violence, terrorism, robbery, rape, arson, deliberate traffic incident, spread of contagious diseases and spray of defoliant.....

The others are OK, but I never thought the USA would stoop to "deliberate traffic incidents". I am ashamed to be an American.
/sarcasm
Posted by: Chris Smith || 12/02/2003 13:25 Comments || Top||

#3  I wonder if i'd become an enemy of the North Korean state if I personally sent Kimmie a bill - let's call it an Annoyance Tax - for the 43 trillion dollars. It's win-win for the United States: The US caves in Kim's demands, but he turns around and signs the check to me, and I pump that money right back into the ecomony AND consequently turn the Hostess Cupcake company into the most powerful corporation in the world, allowing them to beat out both Coke and Disney as our main tools of Imperialism, AND we get the added benefit of seeing Europe - newly addicted to creamy fillings and golden sponge cakes - become as fat as we are, which would serve 'em right, the jerks.
Posted by: ccwbass || 12/02/2003 13:29 Comments || Top||

#4  Damn more reparations.

We need to bite the bullet and deal with slave guilt and Nork guilt. We need to pay off our debts to these people with special Continental Reprations Dollars. I will do the design myself for a small fee in (US Federal Reserve Debt Money)
Posted by: Shipman || 12/02/2003 15:57 Comments || Top||

#5  Ah, Senator Proxmire would have been proud - a trillion here, a trillion there, and pretty soon - we'd be talking about some REALLY SERIOUS kimchee.
Posted by: Lone Ranger || 12/02/2003 23:52 Comments || Top||


Home Front
Army Honors Man Who Exposed Fake War Records
A Vietnam veteran who exposed more than 1,200 people trying to capitalize on bogus or inflated Vietnam war records has been saluted with a military honor. B.G. "Jug" Burkett received the Army’s Distinguished Civilian Service Award (search) on Monday from former President George H.W. Bush at the Bush Library in College Station.
If you’ve heard of Mr. Burkett, this is very good news.
"He exposed a mass distortion of history that cost taxpayers billions of dollars" in undeserved veterans benefits, said John W. Nicholson, an undersecretary at the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (search). "He returned to the Vietnam veterans their good name."
He tried. Of course, there are those who will fight to the end of their days to prevent such a thing.
Burkett’s mission began in 1986 with his efforts to raise funds for the Texas Vietnam Veterans Memorial (search) in Dallas. Many people refused to donate, Burkett said, because they believed they would be helping drug-abusing psychopaths with no desire to work or contribute to society. Burkett started his own research to find out who fought in Vietnam and to debunk some of the myths about Vietnam veterans. Through the work, he exposed more than 1,200 people, including politicians and entertainers, who lied about or exaggerated their claims of serving in the Vietnam War.
Mr. Burkett also goes after guys with bogus claims of military service (including claims of heroism) in other wars besides Vietnam. For example: You’ll often hear that Dan Rather is an "ex-Marine" -- actually, he failed Marine basic training. To be fair, I’ve never heard that Rather has actually made the claim to have been a Marine.
"I’m a little overwhelmed because none of what I’ve done exceeded just doing my duty," said Burkett, a financial adviser who served in Vietnam in the late 1960s.
Burkett loudly points out to everyone that he had a non-combat role in Vietnam, by the way.
Burkett said he’s happy to receive the Army’s award because it will help bring the right type of attention to his comrades. "It brings the focus back to the message," he said. "And the message basically is that the people who served in Vietnam are the finest troops we ever produced." Not all his research has to do with exposing fake veterans. In a 1998 book, "Stolen Valor: How the Vietnam Generation Was Robbed of Its Heroes and Its History," Burkett and co-author Glenna Whitley challenged the belief that young and poor minority draftees fought and died in higher numbers in Vietnam. They found that 75 percent of those killed were volunteers, not draftees.
I recommend Mr. Burkett’s book -- which is both about the myths of Vietnam and the phenomenon of phoney veterans. I found it utterly fascinating. The website for the book is: here.
Posted by: Patrick Phillips || 12/02/2003 12:28:37 PM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hat's off to this man. My dad is a Vietnam Vet and before he retired I met MANY other Vietnam Vets. Guess what? They are just like anybody else. They ONLY people who decry their military service are those who seek to bolster their argument. For instance many lefty loons like to use the tag line ‘Vietnam era Vet’ and yes this is a classification by the veterans administration. However, they were not in or near Southeast Asia. They could have served in San Antonio Texas and still have this ‘designation.’ Very few people that I work with (I work with Veterans groups) use that designation when talking about their military service. Not that they are ashamed of NOT being there, it’s out of respect of those that DID serve. BTW I ‘served’ in the USAF for 20 years 1980-2000, in case you were wondering where I am coming from. .
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 12/02/2003 12:53 Comments || Top||

#2  I applaud this man for what he is doing and what has been done. As mentioned, not all of us in that era had combat jobs even if we were in country.

Years after my service I was relating my glorious military career to a friend from Yugoslavia about how the more I volunteered the further I got from danger. Let me tell you folks I was one of the deadliest operators of a remmington manual typewriter in Phan Rang. The main professor in the lab, even after he had heard of my military mis-adventures, told my wife one day that I was "a ticking time-bomb".

Again, hats off to Mr. Burket.
Posted by: Jim K || 12/02/2003 14:14 Comments || Top||

#3  I read Mr. Burkett's book and it was a fine tribute to those who served and an indictment to all the swine who pretended to. It is not uncommon to be in a bar and run into some fool who claims to be a Green Beret/Force Recon/Ranger/LRRP/Recondo/SEAL/AirCommando but doesn't know which is the business end of an M-16. The fascinating thing about the book is that people in "public life" actually do it. As if no one would find out? Stupid. And for what benefit? When I came back from 3d Force Recon in 1969, claiming 'vietveteranness' was NOT the way to popularity or advancement. Although the book was wonderfully done, it raised my blood pressure with the people who would steal what little respect might have been due to my veteran friends both living and dead.
Posted by: Sgt.DT || 12/02/2003 19:28 Comments || Top||


Hillary who?
Peter Lemiska
If our American soldiers in Baghdad were shocked and awed by the President’s surprise Thanksgiving Day visit, Senator Clinton must have been absolutely dumbstruck. The carefully orchestrated news coverage of her visits to Afghanistan and Iraq — the speeches, the sound bites, the photo ops — all of it was buried beneath a mountain of media reports on the President’s surprise trip to Baghdad. Can anyone imagine her frustration? Spending a few days away from her Chappaqua digs to chow down with the grunts in the field is one thing. But to do it without any measurable media coverage — that’s something else entirely.

She announced her trip well enough in advance to generate some media attention, but that all evaporated when the real story broke. It was on Thanksgiving Day, after the President was out of harm’s way, that the world learned about his visit. And the world could not turn away from the story. The news reports saturated the airwaves and internet news sites. Friday’s newspapers were filled with accounts of his trip.

Of particular interest was Friday’s edition of the European and Pacific Stars and Stripes, which ran a front-page story on the President’s visit. Senator Clinton’s visit to Afghanistan was not even mentioned — anywhere in the publication. And it was not just the extraordinary security measures that made the President’s trip so compelling. Anyone who saw the troops’ reaction to his appearance understands why so many of us were glued to the TV. Their spontaneous, frenzied reception and the President’s emotional response could never have been orchestrated. The emotion-charged atmosphere of that event rendered irrelevant any questions about his motives. The enthusiasm was real, and it left no doubt in anyone’s mind that our fighting men and women not only accept President Bush as Commander-in-Chief, but wholeheartedly embrace him as a genuine leader.

And he accomplished exactly what a leader has to do. He inspired and rallied the troops. In fact, except for the most callous cynic, most Americans who saw the taped speech were filled with inspiration and pride. The event also showed us one reason he is so revered by our armed forces. For no one who watched it or read the subsequent accounts can doubt the President’s affection for those troops or his sincerity. The emotions that welled up inside of him were genuine — they were not scripted.

On the other hand, we have what’s-her-name. Why was her trip such an underwhelming PR failure? How is it that, compared to the President’s reception in Baghdad, her welcome at Bagram Air Base was lukewarm, at best? As several observers reportedly noted, the troops seemed more excited about the turkey on their plates. There are a couple of possible explanations for their indifference towards this particular U.S. Senator and former first lady. Some might say that those feelings were forged during the last administration, when Bill Clinton did everything in his power to transform our military from a formidable fighting force to a socially engineered, and ill-equipped humanitarian organization. Or it may just be that they have never gotten over his administration’s utter disdain for anyone in uniform. Or maybe those service men and women were just more perceptive than Senator Clinton anticipated. Maybe they just didn’t want to be used in a campaign advertisement or otherwise exploited by a shrewd, calculating politician. For it seems that wherever there is misery or hardship, there’s Senator Clinton and a camera crew. And while she frantically makes the rounds, most of us know that there is but one cause near and dear to her heart — her own political success.

Whatever the reason for the snub, she should take comfort in the fact that things could have been worse — much worse. Imagine the catastrophic results if those troops were free to voice their true feelings — the way those other American heroes did after she elbowed her way into that 9/11 benefit in New York. What she should have learned when those NYC police and fireman booed her off stage, is that most of us have no trouble recognizing the difference between honest compassion and political maneuvering. In retrospect, she was lucky in Afghanistan. After all, no press is infinitely better than bad press.

I usually like to comment in an article but this guys says everything. A salute to all of those that serve and especially those that are away from home. Recently I opined that I HATE when politicians come a calling when I was deployed and I stand by that statement. However, I want to applaud the President for dining with our troops on thanksgiving. Well done! Since he didn’t announce he was coming I bet NOBODY had to pull double duty painting rocks prior to his visit. The shrew probably made sure that ‘maximum participation’ was ordered for all troops at the airport. This is a code for Commanders to have ALL troops present for a ceremony. Too bad we didn’t get some film of the fat shrew breaking bread with the troops. This should be a good lesson for her and people of her ilk. Guess what shrew? The military votes too! We know who voted against funding for the Iraq and Afghan operations. We know how YOU portray the GREAT victories we have had and how you want to turn that around. And finally we understand the Dummocrats plan to first weaken and then subordinate the U.S. defense under some U.N. power structure. Thank you but no, we don’t need to go that route!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 12/02/2003 11:42:10 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Darn it! I put the link in the wrong place. please fix if possible
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 12/02/2003 11:46 Comments || Top||

#2  Boy, I just bet the Hildebeest was seriously pissed that her PR schmooze got eclipsed. Probably beat a servant half to death...
Posted by: mojo || 12/02/2003 12:19 Comments || Top||

#3  If caring was leather Hillary couldn't saddle a keanulint, or even a flea!
Posted by: Atrus || 12/02/2003 13:43 Comments || Top||

#4  I wonder if she had her own personnal tent with satellite TV and air-conditioning? Probably did.
Posted by: Charles || 12/02/2003 14:09 Comments || Top||

#5  As several observers reportedly noted, the troops seemed more excited about the turkey on their plates.

Sure- they were hungry. Waiting while HRC and her entourage went to the head of the chow line tends to do that.
Posted by: Pappy || 12/02/2003 15:21 Comments || Top||

#6  Folks, we're not out of the woods yet on this one. The Donks won't give up their sacred cow without a fight, and are already crafting a compromise bill for next year that has the same goal in mind. We cannot ever turn our backs on thse slimeballs. We must keep them in the crosshairs 24/7/365 until we can vote them out.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 12/02/2003 17:20 Comments || Top||

#7  Dang...my other post shoulda gone under the bit regarding Arny. My bad folks.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 12/02/2003 19:13 Comments || Top||

#8  Cyber,
I think that troops are perceptive about why a big wig is making a visit. Quite a lot of preparation gows in to spitshine for visits by miltary brass as well. Troops tend to be annoyed by preparations for a visit by an admiral or general that looks right through them as he is shaking their hands. I doubt that Tommy Franks doesn't have that problem.

A lot is now being made about Bush not attending funerals of soldiers. Clinton didn't attend either, but the whole issue is a red herring to begin with. The funeral is about the famliy. Uninvited big wigs trying to mug for the camera are not appreciated at funerals.
If a family invited Bush to a funeral, I'm pretty sure Bush would explain to the family that it would be impossible for the president to attend the funeral of every soldier that dies in the WOT. If he attended one, that would be unfair to others and become a divisive issue in itself.

I bet we will see Bush visit miltary bases on a continuing basis. He will probably meet with all greiving families asociated with that base in private, if they desire. I think he did that in the UK as well.
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/02/2003 19:34 Comments || Top||

#9  the funeral issue is about the opportunity to have some family member do an in-your-face to embarrass Bush. Don't fall for it, GWB. Our own SD County noted Anti-War-Father-in-Mourning of that Marine that died (heroically) is now visiting Iraq to try and stir it up against Bush...any guesses who's paying his way?
Posted by: Frank G || 12/02/2003 19:56 Comments || Top||

#10  Frank - I can only imagine how embarrassed and appalled the kid would be by his father's bizarre craven tool-of-the-week behavior. What an asshole. Old Dad certainly lacks his son's ethics and honor.
Posted by: .com || 12/02/2003 20:57 Comments || Top||

#11  "Guess what shrew? The military votes too."

Didn't the Dems try to have military ballots excluded from the Florida count in 2000?
Posted by: LeftEnd || 12/02/2003 23:57 Comments || Top||


California Repeals Licenses for Illegal Immigrants
Sanity returns - Only because of Arnold’s election
The California Assembly voted to repeal a law Monday allowing undocumented immigrants to get driver’s licenses, setting the stage for Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger to fulfill a key campaign pledge just two weeks after taking office. Facing widespread public opposition and a threatened March ballot initiative to kill the law, the Assembly voted 64-9 to overturn what it passed only three months ago. The Senate took similar action on Nov. 24 with a 33-0 vote. The measure now goes to Schwarzenegger, who was expected to quickly sign the bill. The law, which had been set to go into effect Jan. 1, would have let an estimated 2 million illegal immigrant motorists apply for driver’s licenses with taxpayer identification numbers instead of Social Security numbers. Passed in September and signed by former Gov. Gray Davis, the law aimed to end a 10-year ban on driver’s licenses for California’s undocumented immigrants, most from Mexico and Central America. Before being elected in the Oct. 7 recall election against Davis, Schwarzenegger promised to repeal the law within his first 100 days. Immediately after being inaugurated, he called the Legislature into special session to consider it. The new Republican governor, an immigrant himself, repeatedly criticized the law as the "wrong way" to handle the issue. He has promised to help legislators craft a new law with more security measures and background checks for applicants.
Posted by: Frank G || 12/02/2003 11:06:31 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  They got bitch-slapped back to sanity. Typical Californian's response to this was something like "What're you? F***ing INSANE?"
Posted by: mojo || 12/02/2003 12:31 Comments || Top||

#2  Excellent start.
The next step for all the states is to get rid of this insane idea that illegals and children of illegals are entitled to INSTATE tuition at their respective state colleges.
Posted by: Slumming || 12/02/2003 12:43 Comments || Top||

#3  Criminal License-GONE
Triple Car Tax-GONE
Grey Davis-GONE
Liberal Agenda-GOING going .....

I love Arny!
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 12/02/2003 12:55 Comments || Top||

#4  Now, if only illegal aliens could be removed in a similarly prompt manner....
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 12/02/2003 13:37 Comments || Top||

#5  Good points, CS!
But I'm still not coming back - not just yet. When they cut 80% of that goofy red tape (permit for compressed air; permit to post a "sign" - which is actually a sticker - smaller than the permit sticker *eye roll*) and drop the state income tax - well then, I'll spend my money there and look at settling back in. For now, it's Nevada, instead! Sorta the opposite of California!

But good luck - I hope Arny keeps rolling - right through Sacremento, and crushes the legislature. Still got that moron Willie Brown running things there?
Posted by: .com || 12/02/2003 13:40 Comments || Top||

#6  .com, in good time.;-)
Posted by: Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter) || 12/02/2003 14:07 Comments || Top||

#7  Brown's mayor of San Francisco, but terming out soon, I believe. Arnold's having a speech across the street here in San Diego in about 9 minutes, to push for his bond/borrowing proposal to cover the current Davis debt, but with a State spending cap to get the house in long-term order. Doing what he promised - what a concept! Will try to report back if there's anything new (doubtful) in the speech!
Posted by: Frank G || 12/02/2003 14:52 Comments || Top||

#8  good speech: "Promises made, promises kept" was the theme....
Posted by: Frank G || 12/02/2003 19:10 Comments || Top||


Middle East
Israel Kills A Leader Of Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades
A leader of Fatah’s military wing Al-Aqsa Martyrs’ Brigades was killed earlier on Tuesday, December 2, during an incursion by Israeli troops into the West Bank town of Jenin. Amjad al-Saadi, 24, was killed in an exchange of fire with Israeli troops, who stormed the town during daylight hours, Al-Jazeera reported. Rami Debis, an eyewitness, told IslamOnline.net that the occupation troops opened their fire indiscriminately on locals and moved into a nearby Palestinian refugee camp.

IDF walks warily down the street,
with the brims pulled way down low
Ain’t no sound but the sound of their feet,
machine guns ready to go

Are you ready,
Are you ready for this
Are you hanging on the edge of your seat
Out of the doorway the bullets rip
To the sound of the beat

Another one bites the dust
Another one bites the dust
And another one gone, and another one gone
Another one bites the dust
Hey, I’m gonna get you too
Another one bites the dust
Posted by: Steve || 12/02/2003 9:52:35 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  24 yr old leader? Apparently the attrition is working
Posted by: Frank G || 12/02/2003 9:55 Comments || Top||

#2  That's what he gets for joining a "martyrs' brigade" -- "martyrdom."
Posted by: Mike || 12/02/2003 10:21 Comments || Top||

#3  That's what he gets for joining a "martyrs' brigade" -- "martyrdom."

After reading these news reports on al-Saadi's death I seriously doubt that anyone aside from his immediate family will give a rat's ass in a few months or so. It'll be: "Al-Saadi who??"
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 12/02/2003 10:40 Comments || Top||

#4  "I don't wanna be a martyr! I only joined for the college money!"
Posted by: BH || 12/02/2003 10:55 Comments || Top||

#5  Hope they had him hold a pig before killing him.
Posted by: Charles || 12/02/2003 11:10 Comments || Top||


Africa: West
’All that is French will be attacked’
Waving knives and machetes, pro-government mobs extended their siege of France’s main military base in CÃŽte d’Ivoire for a second day on Tuesday —demanding that French peacekeepers withdraw from the former French colony to allow government forces to resume attacks on rebels. Hundreds of demonstrators — better armed on Tuesday, after carrying only rocks and planks on Monday — lit bonfires in the streets and heaved stones over barracks walls bristling with razor wire. For a second day, French soldiers fired tear gas and stun grenades into the crowd, which started gathering on Monday at the base in Ivory Coast’s commercial capital, Abidjan. Pro-government militias also delivered an ultimatum on Tuesday to the French: French peacekeepers had until 2000 on Tuesday to withdraw from the West African nation’s ceasefire lines. If not, militia leaders and youth groups said, their fighters would open attacks on the estimated 16 000 French civilians and 4 000 French troops living in Ivory Coast. "All that is French will be attacked," pledged Narcisse N’Depo, a youth leader outside the French military base.
You attack the FFL and you aren’t gonna get any older.
French diplomats refused immediate comment on the threat, and it was unclear how big a following the militias had, to carry out the ultimatum.
Not enough to overrun the French base, but enough to turn the civilians into mincemeat.
Posted by: Steve || 12/02/2003 9:01:46 AM || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "French diplomats refused immediate comment"

Aren't they on strike? Or are they scabs? I mean, more than usual.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 12/02/2003 9:50 Comments || Top||

#2  The city quickly ran out of French fries, French toast, French Chew, and French's mustard.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 12/02/2003 9:55 Comments || Top||

#3  French's Mustard is a purely American product, originally made in Rochester, NY. Mr. French was not French either.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 12/02/2003 10:08 Comments || Top||

#4  (I was joking.)
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 12/02/2003 10:12 Comments || Top||

#5  Mr. French was not French either.

You mean Sebastian Cabot? (God rest his soul)
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 12/02/2003 10:42 Comments || Top||

#6  " In other news, all the frogs in Côte d’Ivoire have mysteriously gone missing. Reports range from the frogs being stepped on, to the frogs boarding a Concord and plunging into the sea. "
Posted by: Charles || 12/02/2003 11:14 Comments || Top||

#7  Do you think the FFL have done their reload yet. From rubber bullets, stun grenades and tear gas to something with a little more ummph.
Posted by: Lucky || 12/02/2003 11:50 Comments || Top||

#8  Even the vaunted Legionaires can die, if the enemy is determined enough. Remember, it was the FFL that was almost completely wiped out at Dien Bien Phu. Odds of 10-1, 100-1, even 1000 to 1 are not impossible. When the ammo's gone, and you're using your rifle as a club, you and your enemy are on equal footing. If there are more of them than you, you're dead.

The French have attempted to impose a peace on two mutually exclusive groups, and will now find themselves attacked by both. They are well and truly screwed - nothing they do will be "right", and they will either flee or be destroyed. French 'support' of the Ivory Coast "rebels", mostly Muslim tribesmen and foreigners, have caused the one thing they didn't want - the unification of Ivory Coast non-Muslims in opposition to them.

It's gonna be long, it's gonna be bloody, and the outcome won't be known for probably several years. In the meantime, 'investment' in Ivory Coast, and trade for the normal exports from the Ivory Coast, will be spotty and extremely costly. The price of a Snickers bar may be two or three times what it is now before the war's settled.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/02/2003 12:39 Comments || Top||

#9  "French's Mustard is a purely American product, originally made in Rochester, NY. Mr. French was not French either."

Was told that there was once notice on the French's company website the only thing French's had in common with the French is that "we're both yellow."
Posted by: Glenn (not Reynolds) || 12/02/2003 12:59 Comments || Top||

#10  Although it would be entertaining to see Chiraq and DiVillpin look silly, this situation looks really bad. In his book Somalia on Five Dollars a Day, Martin Stanton describes a situation where he tries to use an understrength miltary unit to stop the looting of a food shipment. He got the soldiers in the middle of a large group of people and a riot ensued.
He was then faced with the choice of protecting his own soldiers by killing the leader of the riot or retreating and showing the rioters that the orders of American Peacekeepers could be disregarded.
Quite a bit on the continent of Africa hinges on the French response to this rioting. If there is a massacre of French civilians, could this not lead to a massacre of Europenas throughout the entire continent?
Personally, I am glad that ther French has brought tear gas to the party. If some old geezer with emphazema keels over after being hit with a riot control agent, oh well. This situation looks to being headed down the toilet in a reverse corialis spiral.
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/02/2003 18:09 Comments || Top||

#11  "All your French are belong to us!!!"
Posted by: BH || 12/02/2003 18:13 Comments || Top||

#12  I do not wish ill on the French - they are dong a good enough job of bringing that on themselves - I only wish they would act as allies rather than strategic opponents. They are really screwing the pooch here - let's hope they solve it with a minimum of bloodshed. Should it bring about regime change, well....that's something to hope for, but it seems that the confrontational and oppositional attitude extends much further than Jacque and the she-bitch Dominique
Posted by: Frank G || 12/02/2003 19:06 Comments || Top||

#13  Ya know, if the French would just have acted with their allies, instead of going off unilaterally and getting involved in this, none of this would have happened.

Right?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 12/02/2003 21:53 Comments || Top||

#14  "All your French are belong to us!!!"

SHEESH YOU GUYS ARE HILLARIOUS!!
Posted by: alaskasoldier || 12/02/2003 22:41 Comments || Top||


East Asia
Will Taiwan vote for independence in a "defensive referendum?"
Taipei Times. Hat tip: VodkaPundit. EFL
President Chen Shui-bian has detailed the arsenal of Chinese missiles targeting Taiwan in his latest move to build a case for a contentious sovereignty vote next year. Chen said late Sunday it was the first time he had specified the location of bases within 600km holding 496 ballistic missiles pointed at Taiwan. The move is likely to inflame already tense relations with Beijing. His latest comments, at an election rally, have already prompted criticism from the opposition camp, which claimed he had leaked military secrets.
Don’t think so. There’s a lot of open-source data from which you could reasonably derive the same assessment.
His speech is seen as part of a plan to rally support for a referendum on unspecified sovereignty issues to run alongside the presidential elections on March 20. Beijing and Chen’s political opponents claimed they had dealt the president a telling blow at a legislative vote last week when they effectively blocked his plans for a series of referendums.
Ahhhh... How well I remember well the heady days of the Great Cultural Revolution™, when thousands, perhaps millions of rabid Chinese would strut their stuff in Olde Beijing. Radio Beijing used to hire its announcerettes based on the snotty quality of their voices, and they'd always announce the lemming swarms as "telling blows against American imperialism." How we used to tremble at the very thought! Running dog lackey anti-socialist agent of reaction that I was, I fell in love with one particularly snotty broadcast maiden. I used to wait for her to come on the air, to bask in her voice, which oozed a peculiar combination of vitriol and raw sex. But then, alas, one day she came no more. A reeducation camp? Some bourgeouis item in the background of her great-grandaddy? Killed and eaten by Red Guards? Who knows? But our love was not to be...
However, Chen has tried to cite a clause in the new law that allows him to stage a ballot on "issues of national security concern" in the event of a foreign threat. Over the weekend, he sought to depict China as a clear and present danger to the nation.
Stephen Green, the VodkaPundit, had this to say about that last ’graf:

Chen isn’t just scaring the bejeebus out of his constituents, but he’s asking them to vote for independence anyway. It’s as if the first line of the Declaration of Independence read, "The Royal Navy lies off our coasts, there are Hessian mercenaries in our streets, and Britain has the power to destroy everything we’ve built here - so c’mon and support independence!"

If Chen gets his referendum, things are going to get awfully tense across the Tawain Straits.
Posted by: Mike || 12/02/2003 8:45:25 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Meanwhile HILLARY calls for more "boots on the ground in Iraq"
Posted by: Lucky || 12/02/2003 12:13 Comments || Top||

#2  The Army may be in Iraq, but the Navy is home refitting. The USN has cranked out quite a few Aegis Destroyers in the last 10 years. Park one at every pier in Taiwan, put the missile systems in auto and let the crews find what trouble they can in the nearest watering holes.
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/02/2003 18:23 Comments || Top||


Home Front
Queer allies
Hat tip to InstaPundit
EFL
The Massachusetts Supreme Court decision to legalize homosexual marriage in the Bay state re-ignited the culture wars. The Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism, perhaps the preeminent liberal Jewish organization in Washington, DC, applauded the ruling. Religious-minded conservatives, however, were horrified. They are determined to stop the gay rights movement in its tracks. At what price?

JewishWorldReview.com has discovered that prominent religious conservatives — Jews, Catholics and Evangelical Christians — are allied with a radical Islamic group to stop gay marriage. Pushing a constitutional amendment that would restrict marriage to heterosexuals, they work with the Islamic Society of North America. What is ISNA? According to terrorism expert Steve Emerson, ISNA:
— has held fundraisers for terrorists (e.g., after Hamas leader Musa Marzuk was arrested, it raised money for his defense, claiming he was innocent and not connected to terrorism)

— has condemned US seizure of Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad assets in the United States after 9/11

— has consistently sponsored speakers at their conferences that defend Islamic terrorists. Recently, a leader denied in an interview with an NBC affiliate that ISNA took any Saudi money but that was a brazen lie as evidenced by a recording of an ISNA conference in which it was revealed that money came from Saudi Arabia.
In 2001, JewishWorldReview.com reported exclusively that another problematic group, the American Muslim Council, served on the Alliance for Marriage advisory board with Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America’s Washington lobbyist, Nathan Diament. Within hours of the story being published, the union withdrew from the advisory board.
Posted by: Dragon Fly || 12/02/2003 8:00:45 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hat tip to Power Line: the sound of the other shoe dropping in Utah.

If they can find a few justices in Massachussets willing to define marriage one way, they can surely find four more to say "why stop at just two?"
Posted by: eLarson || 12/02/2003 12:18 Comments || Top||

#2  "why stop at just two?"

Or 'why stop at 10, she's plenty old enough!'

The 'judges' in the People's Republic of massachusetts really fucked the goat with this idiocy.
Posted by: victorvictoria || 12/02/2003 13:29 Comments || Top||

#3  "really f@#ked the goat"?

I wonder how they would rule on that one.
Posted by: Captain Holly || 12/02/2003 14:14 Comments || Top||

#4  meh, there is no explicit right of marriage, buh consenting adult straights have the right to marry whom they wish so it falls under the assumed right category, As everyone is supposed to be treated equaly 's no reason bents shouldn have the same rights I or you do.

unless of course you are a pathetic exscuse for an human being, much less an American (you know that whole free country thing) and believe you have the right to strangle other's ability to pursue happyness

and dont give me any crap about "corrupting family values", the only person who can corrupt your family's values is you and your spouse and besides that pooch got analy screwed with a spiked baseball bat a long time ago, more marriages fail than succeed, though I suppose if you want to get a loony you could blame that on gays..
Posted by: dcreeper || 12/02/2003 16:05 Comments || Top||

#5  The real problem that most conservatives have with gay marriage is a simple one. Namely, why mess with something (heterosexual marriage) that has worked reasonably well for six thousand years? There are also other important questions to consider, such as: why take the risk? Do the potential pluses of trying something new outweigh the potential minuses? What is it EXACTLY that gays are after in the long run? Do they even know themselves?

The answer, simply put, is no – it isn't worth messing with marriage, or at lest not yet. The benefits of suddenly abandoning the norm which we, as a species, have developed over the millenniums are vastly outweighed by the potential consequences. For example, it has yet to be proven conclusively to most people's satisfaction that gay male couples make good parents for male children, largely because the public examination of such things is very recent. There really isn't that much reliable, unbiased data to go on when it comes to a social experiment this radical and new. Not everything that sounds good on paper works out in practice (re: the Soviet Union). Furthermore, until the gay rights movement does more – much, much more – to distance themselves from groups like NAMBLA many conservative Americans will never feel comfortable giving them unlimited access to children.

Which is what this entire debate is really about - child rearing. The only way a culture, or in this case a sub-culture, can survive is to reproduce, thereby passing along its values and way of life. Nature or nurture arguments aside, Gay culture (as opposed to homosexuality) must be passed on like any other to a generation of young. In the long run, having a few young people "come out" each year after they move to a major metropolitan area and have sex for the first time isn't a reliable way to propagate an entire culture with its own social mores, slang, businesses, political views, and so forth. You have GOT to have children so that you can create a new generation of your culture. Otherwise, you are going to get absorbed and die out.
Posted by: Secret Master || 12/03/2003 13:18 Comments || Top||


Middle East
King Abdullah II Calls For a civilized model for tolerance...
Unfortunately there’s no reason for the Famous Biting and Incisive Wit that Rantburg is so noted for (an area that I wish I had some talent at, but obviously don’t...lol) This is a positive Story
"Our vision of the Jordan that will emerge in the future is based on a solid foundation, whose substance is that Jordan is a modern, democratic country," he said, calling on leaders to move in that direction "with absolute conviction, in order to promote Jordan as a civilized model for tolerance, freedom of thought, creativity and excellence."

"In the speech, Abdullah frequently used his slogan "Jordan First" -- a term that in the past antagonized some Jordanians of Palestinian origin. Most Jordanians are Palestinian, and some felt the term was designed to pull focus away from their concerns. Abdullah said, however, that the slogan is inclusive of all sections of the population.

The lack of focus on international issues affecting Jordan, such as Iraq and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, also made his speech strikingly different from those of other Arab leaders, who normally place emphasis on these conflicts in order to improve their own popularity.
In truth I have been very harsh in my criticism of Jordan, especially with the Parliament’s refusal to to rein in or pass laws with signifigant punishment for Honor Killilngs.

This now is a heady dose of Realism for Jordanians. I am far from sure that they will be able to accept this courageous message...but this is still nice to see. Of course, with the history of enmity in the Middle East to this kind of life affirming, personal responsibility type of message, King Abdullah II will probably be assassinated before sunrise...lol
Posted by: Traveller || 12/02/2003 1:40:50 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Look a couple of stories down... Steve White bit into it a little bit for ya ;)
Posted by: Damn_Proud_American || 12/02/2003 2:36 Comments || Top||

#2  Dearest DPA:

I know, I know...Steve White does this better than almost anyone. And yet, as much as the Fisking is fun...I have always had some hope for
King Abdullah. He has the possiblity of making a real difference in the Middle East, (Of course, how much of a difference has Queen Noor, American born and his mother, made in the King's life?)

Also, on November 12, the King of Morocco said:

"How could we hope to ensure the progress and prosperity of a society," asked King Mohammed VI last month, "while its women, who constitute half therein, see their rights pushed aside, and suffer injustice, violence, and marginalization in disregard of the right to dignity and equity that our sacred religion confers upon them?"

I realize that matters are proceeding at a glacial pace...But both of these King's get a full two thumbs up from me.

Be Good,

Traveller

Posted by: Traveller || 12/02/2003 2:58 Comments || Top||

#3  The King is also politicing for the soon-to-be-open post of Guardian of the Sacred Sites. When the House of Saud goes down the crapper, the King is number one as successor if he stays our friend. Makes sense, we get a relatively progressive ruler and the Moslem world gets a Guardian with a legitimate heritage for the post.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 12/02/2003 8:46 Comments || Top||

#4  Traveller-
Queen Noor is not Abdullah's mother. His mother was an earlier wife of King Hussein.
Posted by: Spot || 12/02/2003 8:55 Comments || Top||

#5  Tolerance means something different to most Muslims, it means we will tolerate non-muslims in our Islamic society, but you will be second class citizens.
Posted by: TS || 12/02/2003 9:11 Comments || Top||

#6  I agree with TS. If the best you can do is call for mere tolerance - and that's considered revolutionary - then you have a long way to go before you and your people can be considered real human beings.
Posted by: BH || 12/02/2003 10:49 Comments || Top||

#7  BH - along way to go before you can be considered real believers in democracy, certainly, but real human beings? Tolerance was revolutionary in Europe 350 years ago - surely you dont mean that say, Louis XIV of France, or King Charles of England were somhow not real human beings?
Posted by: liberalhawk || 12/02/2003 13:13 Comments || Top||

#8  'Tolerance' to the islamofascists means you're allowed the chance to convert to islam before you are killed.
Posted by: stuckinthe7thcentury || 12/02/2003 15:53 Comments || Top||

#9  I'd like to think that Abs in Jordan and Mo in Morrocco could be decent philosopher-kings. Set stuff up, build democracy, then sit back and play cricket all day. Don't see it happening in Jordan because 70% of the people are Paleos, and they don't take to democracy too well (from what I've heard). Maybe in Morrocco, as long as Mo doesn't get himself killed in the next 20 years or so.
Posted by: Steve White || 12/02/2003 18:26 Comments || Top||


Latin America
Alleged Ex-Nazi Dies Awaiting Extradition
A Ukranian-born man accused of killing Jews in Nazi territory during World War II has died of old age in Costa Rica while awaiting extradition. Bodan Kosic, 80, had been hospitalized with a stroke on Wednesday just as officials were preparing to extradite him to Poland for trial on alleged crimes against humanity. Hospital officials confirmed the death, which was also reported by the local press.
Can we see the severed head, just to be sure?
The Polish Embassy requested Kosic’s extradition last week. He had lived in Costa Rica for 20 years after he was expelled from the United States for lying about his identity. In Poland, he is known as Bogdan Koziy and his name is spelled several ways in legal documents. The New York-based World Jewish Congress and the Jerusalem office of the Simon Wiesenthal Center repeatedly urged Costa Rica to expel Kosic, saying he was part of a Ukrainian police unit that operated under Nazi orders from 1942-44.
Say hi to Himmler and Osama for us, Bodan.

Every once in awhile, being a kind-hearted fellow, I feel sorry for those frail old men, being rousted in the last years of their lives. I think they should be left alone with their memories, to come to terms with their consciences. Then I recall that the rat bastards who're killing five year olds and cutting school teachers' heads off today will someday be little old man who couldn't hurt a fly if we don't kill them now. So, even though I'm a kind-hearted man, can we see that guy's head, just to make sure?
Posted by: Steve White || 12/02/2003 1:16:13 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  One could say he recieved the ultimate extradition order. Wonder if God is feeling particularily Old Testement today?
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 12/02/2003 8:42 Comments || Top||

#2  Wonder if God is feeling particularily Old Testement today

Hmmm... did you think the Almighty got a bible-cycle? If so I do want to catch the big guy on a very New Testament sort of day.
Posted by: Shipman || 12/02/2003 10:02 Comments || Top||


Middle East
Jordan’s King Vows to Transform Jordan
Jordan’s King Abdullah II pledged Monday to transform his nation into a model democratic state that can serve as an example to other Middle East nations.
"Yeah, we’re goin’ to do Arab Islamic democracry right! Just as soon as we figure out some basic concepts, like how I can still be king."
In his annual speech to Parliament, Abdullah urged lawmakers to join in turning Jordan into a state ``based on justice, under the sovereignty of the law, political pluralism and respect of citizen’s rights.’’ The monarch said he envisioned a new Jordan that embodies the ``bright and truthful image of the faith and practices of Islam ... in order to promote Jordan as a civilized model for tolerance, freedom of thought, creativity and excellence.’’
Nothing there about freedom of religion.
Abdullah said administrative and judicial reforms were needed to combat nepotism, corruption and bureaucracy.
Isn’t a monarchy basically incompatible with combatting nepotism?
He said he also sought wider participation of women, youth and political parties in decision-making, as well as a stronger and more independent media. ``Women should be provided with all the necessary capabilities and due rights in order to ensure their full participation in the political, economic and social life,’’ he said.
"Noor! Where’s my supper, dammit!"
That was an apparent rebuke of Parliament, which has twice since its June election rejected state bills proposing wider freedoms for women, including the right to file for divorce. Lawmakers, who are mostly of conservative tribal background, have argued that such moves encourage vice and damage the fabric of Jordan’s male-dominated society.
"We can’t have the brazen hussies file for divorce! That would leave some of us pashas men with fewer than the alloted four wives each!"
Jordan already is a freer society than many in the Middle East; the media can occasionally criticize the government, polite anti-government rallies are usually but not always allowed and women can vote and take public posts in the kitchen. The king still has absolute authority, however, and can dismiss Parliament at will. In his 20-minute speech, the king pledged to press ahead with reforms initiated by his late father, King Hussein, in 1989. The reforms brought the first parliamentary elections after a 22-year gap, the revival of a multiparty system banned since an attempted leftist coup in 1956, and the abrogation of emergency laws which had existed since the 1948 Arab-Israeli war.
Notice how the writer failed to mention a certain month, hmmm, ... September, wasn’t it?
Posted by: Steve White || 12/02/2003 1:04:50 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
Dear Steve:

I should of known and anticipated that you would handle the King Abdullah II story in an appropriately Rantburgian manner.

Sorry for the double posting on this topic. Do I delete mine...and if so how? Or just let them stand side by side?

As almost always...your posting is fun & smart.

Best Wishes,

Traveller
Posted by: Traveller || 12/02/2003 1:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Of course, the Eurotrash opposition will continue to scoff at Bush's calls for spreading reform and democratization in the Middle East. Steve is right to be skeptical about reform in Jordan, which is ruled by a minority ethnic group, just as Iraq was until recently. Even worse, the majority population is Palestinian (yikes!). But the fact that the King feel the need to use the rhetoric of reform is tacit acknowledgement of Bush's call for more freedom. Just remember this and other similar pronouncements that we keep hearing from Arab countries the next time you hear someone being smug and dismissive of the neocon domino theory.
Posted by: Tokyo Taro || 12/02/2003 2:58 Comments || Top||

#3  It would be a start if the whole friggin' world acknowledged history, sans the revisionistic bullshit. Who owns what, how, why, when, yadda3.

Simple History Lesson from David Horowitz of FrontPage (references Partition Map 'F'):
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=4454

Neutral Source (under attack for being so, of course) confirming Horowitz and historical documents:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestine

The treaties, from Stanford Univ:
http://www.stanford.edu/class/history187b/Outline5.htm

Sykes-Picot "Treaty" Map May, 1916 (much better than the Stanford Map):
http://www.dartmouth.edu/%7Egov46/sykes-picot-1916.gif

Balfour Declaration Nov 1917:
http://www.stanford.edu/class/history187b/balfourdecdoc.htm

The British Mandate 1920s-1940s:
http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate.php

British Mandate Map:
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/History/mandate2.html

Pre-1948 Palestine Partition Map - all Options:
http://www.stanford.edu/class/history187b/partmaps.htm

Actual birth of the State of Israel (UN Res 181) and Post-War Map, since 5 Arab States immediately declared war upon Israel, and had a few "problems" destroying Israel:
http://www.stanford.edu/class/history187b/ismap.htm


And last but certainly not least, here's an interesting excerpt regards the 1919 Paris Peace Conference that shows Emir Feisal, Abdullah's great-grandfather, accepted the creation of the future Israel... in Palestine - his word.
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The fact is that the international community, including the emerging Arab nations, recognized Israel at the 1919 Paris Peace Conference, which was held by the victorious Allies in order to settle international questions after the 1918 armistice ended World War I. An official Arab and Zionist delegation, as well as delegations from nations and groups from around the world, were invited to attend the conference. The head of the Arab delegation, Emir Feisal, great-grandfather of Abdallah, the present King of Jordan, agreed that "Palestine" would be the Jewish homeland.

Feisal accepted the British Balfour Declaration of Nov. 2, 1917, which afforded recognition to a Jewish national homeland, and agreed with the Zionist delegation, stating, "All such measures shall be adopted as we afford the fullest guarantee of carrying into effect the British Government's Balfour Declaration." Emir Feisal confirmed this determination in a March 3, 1919 letter to Harvard Law Professor, and later US Supreme Court Justice, Felix Frankfurter, to whom he wrote: "Our deputation here in Paris is fully acquainted with the proposals submitted by the Zionist organization to the Peace Conference, and we regard them as modest and proper. We will do our best, insofar as we are concerned, to help them through. We will wish the Jews a most hearty welcome home."

In exchange for Arab recognition of Israel, the Allied powers, in 1919, agreed to the eventual sovereignty of almost 20 Arab states, covering vast oil-rich lands, after a period of mandatory oversight by European powers. The Europeans would proceed to draw the borders of their respective mandates and, in essence, create the system of Arab states that would emerge out of the remnants of the old Turkish Ottoman Empire. In 1922, a couple of years after the Conference, in a land for peace deal, the British would split Mandatory Palestine into an Arab and a Jewish Mandate using the Jordan River as the line of demarcation. The Arabs were granted East Palestine, or Transjordan, which would later become Arab Jordan while West Palestine, or Cis-Jordan, would become the Jewish National homeland of Israel."
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Isn't that interesting? Read the whole thing:
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/print.php3?what=article&id=1726

Fuck the Hashemite "king" and the "state" of Jordan, the actual Palestinian homeland. And fuck the Paleos and their revisionists and liars and apologists in their Saville Row suits and Gucci slip-ons and the fact-truth-challenged "news" outlets assholes.

This will only ever end, and that fact will be clear when you read the actual history and understand the Arabs (still at "war"), when one 'side' or the other is wiped out. When one or the other is [insert Monty Python dead-parrot jokes here]...

(THIS is the truth. Kiss my hairy ass, Rooters, et al.)
Posted by: .com || 12/02/2003 4:13 Comments || Top||

#4  Traveller, thanks and no problems, mate!

The Army of Steve™ rolls on!
Posted by: Steve White || 12/02/2003 18:14 Comments || Top||


Africa: East
Sudanese officers shield the LRA
This doesn't twitch my surprise meter. Religious nutbags get along with religious nutbags, even when they're different religions. The liking for the sight of blood's the driver, not any real concern with God and/or his works.
Lords Resistance Army (LRA) rebels are operating a training camp in areas under Sudanese army control, the state minister for defence, Ruth Nankabirwa has said. "He (LRA leader Joseph Kony) still has a rear base camp some two to three kilometres northwest of Nisitu junction, which is behind Sudan army lines and our forces deployed there cannot do anything, because the protocol under which they are deployed does not allow them to go beyond some lines," Nankabirwa told AFP by telephone. Nankabirwa first told parliament on Friday that the camp near Nisitu had between 100 and 150 recruits undergoing military training. "He also has another camp at Odek in northern Uganda’s Kit valley," she added.
So you can go after that one. Why the hell don't you?
Nankabirwa said Uganda did not want to blame Khartoum for this, because Sudanese President General Omar El Bashir had said his government was not involved, but rather indisciplined officers within his army.
I told her I was really good-looking and a nifty dancer. She believed that, too...
"We are taking diplomatic steps to make Sudan honour its obligations under the protocol. But it should be noted that the Sudan government has not fully responded to the outstanding issues raised by Uganda," she said.
They haven't managed to deliver Kony's head on a plate, either. 'Course, Uganda's not been doing the greatest of all possible jobs turning him into fertilzer, either...
In March 2002, under a protocol between the two countries, Khartoum allowed Kampala to deploy troops on its soil to carry out "Operation Iron Fist" against LRA bases.
You fist can be pure iron, but if all you do is wave it around it's just more dead weight than a normal fist.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 12/02/2003 1:01:18 AM || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I can see no downside to lobbing a MOAB at this base.
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/02/2003 4:41 Comments || Top||

#2  I agree, SH. Time to break the system in in the field...
Posted by: Ptah || 12/02/2003 7:43 Comments || Top||

#3  Field Test #2 sounds good to me
Posted by: Frank G || 12/02/2003 9:54 Comments || Top||

#4  Can we long-stick MOABS from a B-52?
Posted by: linebackertwo || 12/02/2003 13:31 Comments || Top||

#5  Why don't we just go to Uganda and kick the LRA's butts ourselves. Governments and the military are so effing useless!
Posted by: Gaiasheart || 12/02/2003 17:42 Comments || Top||

#6  Can we long-stick MOABS from a B-52?
From what I know, it can only be delivered from the cargo bay of a specially-modified C-130. That means a slow delivery system that's a sitting duck for ANY kind of anti-aircraft system. The way it's employed is usually as the middle aircraft of a flight of three, the other two being AC-130's, and the whole thing escorted by two F-15s and an EB-111.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/02/2003 21:42 Comments || Top||

#7  The way it's employed is usually as the middle aircraft of a flight of three, the other two being AC-130's, and the whole thing escorted by two F-15s and an EB-111.

Kick ASS! How many -130s can we scare up? It'd be great to see an entire wing of them coming in to lay a hurtin' on somebody.
Posted by: linebackertwo || 12/02/2003 22:03 Comments || Top||


40 killed in Sudan air raid
West Sudan rebels said on Monday 40 civilians were killed and 60 injured when a government plane bombed villages in raids in the poor and arid Darfur region. A local government official had no specific information about the bombings in Western Darfur state, about 1,100 kilometres southwest of Sudan’s capital, Khartoum, but said government forces were operating in that area in response to rebel actions. Rebels regularly report attacks by government forces or its militias, but independent verification is difficult to obtain in the remote west, where the United Nations says at least 500,000 people have been displaced by fighting this year.
Y'see, if they can't get independent verification, then it never happened. Those people aren't really dead, the women weren't really raped, the little kiddies weren't really orphaned, those that didn't really have their heads beaten in with rocks, anyway...
Khalil Ibrahim, chairman of the rebel Justice and Equality Movement, told Reuters from Paris
... where it's pretty safe, unless you're a Jew...
the latest attacks targeted villages northeast of the town of Geneina on Sunday and were part of a government offensive heading north to areas controlled by rebel groups. The group said last week that rebels and villagers had killed 186 government-armed militia in an area southwest of Geneina. The Justice and Equality Movement is one of two main rebel groups in the region. The other group, the Sudan Liberation Army (SLA), agreed a ceasefire with the government in September, although both sides have accused the other of violations.
It's a cultural thing, very common where people are routinely named Ibrahim...
Posted by: Dan Darling || 12/02/2003 1:00:06 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Africa: North
Christian Fish, Muslims Shark Swimming Through Cairo Traffic in War of Stickers
Tip o’ the hat to the Volokh Conspiracy.
First came the fish bumper stickers, imported from the United States and pasted on cars by members of Egypt’s Coptic minority as a symbol of their Christianity. Before long, some Muslims responded with their own bumper stickers: fish-hungry sharks.
Of course they did!
It’s not exactly war at sea, but the competing symbols that have cropped up on Cairo streets are a tiny reminder of the tensions between Egypt’s Copts and majority Muslims. Some Christians are annoyed at the Muslim response.
But be careful in how you say you’re annoyed.
"All I wanted to say is that I am a Christian, kind of expressing my Coptic identity," said 25-year-old Miriam Greiss, who has a fish sticker on her car. "I think choosing a shark doesn’t make sense, as if someone is saying, ’I am a violent, bloody creature, look at me.’"
Which means it made perfect sense.
Emad, a Muslim, laughed when asked about the competing symbols but was unapologetic about the two shark stickers on his car. "The Christians had the fish so we responded with the shark. If they want to portray themselves as weak fishes, OK. We are the strongest," said Emad, who would give only his first name.
Because he’s such a strong, confident lad, you know.
Sociologist and rights activist Saad Eddin Ibrahim, a Muslim who has studied discrimination against Copts, called the sticker symbols "superstitions" but said that in Egypt’s climate of religious fundamentalism, people with bad intentions could use them to ignite tensions between Muslims and Christians. "There are people who want to make use of the decay we live in," he said.
But enough about the al-Ghamdis!
Relations are generally calm between Copts, an estimated 10 percent of Egypt’s more than 70 million people, and the Muslims who make up virtually all the rest. But tensions do occasionally erupt into violence, and Copts complain of job discrimination and being shut out of a share of political power.
Other than that things are generally calm, yep yep.
The complaints, though, are spoken softly. Copts - who trace their history to St. Mark’s bringing Christianity to Egypt soon after the death of Christ - didn’t survive Roman persecution and Arab conquest by being overly assertive.
Who told you that? Alexandria used be be noted for the length, duration, and violence of its riots.
Copts often wear gold cross pendants or have tiny bullseyes crosses tattooed on the inside of their wrists, but the stickers seem a more public step. Karl Innemee, a specialist in Coptic studies at the American University in Cairo, said the arrival of the fish could reflect a new desire by Egyptian Christians "to express a death wish themselves openly." Still, the Coptic businessman who began importing the fish stickers two years ago refused to give his name when contacted by The Associated Press at the Maria Group - the company name on the stickers. He said discussing religion could be asking for really big trouble.
That's because it's the Islamists who picked up the tradition of rioting in the streets against the dhimmis...
The fish stickers are sold in churches or Christian bookstores for about 8 cents. The Maria Group owner said sales of the fish, which come plain or with mustard sauce the word "Jesus" inside, have picked up in recent months - soon after the shark stickers first appeared in August. Muslims apparently copied or adopted the symbol of an Egyptian sporting goods company to create their shark symbol. The stickers are sold in Islamic bookshops and also come plain or shriveled fancy - some with the Arabic phrase "No god but Allah" printed in the shark’s body.
"... and no religion but Islam. Or else."
While the fish stickers came from America, the symbol has roots in Egypt. In their earliest days, Copts used the fish - perhaps the emblem is from the biblical story of the loaves and fishes - as a way to identify themselves to each other without letting their Roman rulers know.
And the Romans never figured it out. Shrewd, those early Christians.
Brilliant, those later Romans. That's what happened to the Empire, y'know. The Vandals and Visigoths showed up and somebody hollered, "Whoa! Over there! Is that Elvis?" All the Romans looked, and the barbarians stole the Empire away while their backs were turned. Some of the Romans even asked for an autograph.
Medhat Mahrous, a Coptic scholar, noted that the Coptic church still uses the fish symbol today on altar curtains and religious objects. The fish vs. sharks on Cairo streets are reminiscent of how proponents of the theory of evolution responded to fish stickers in the United States with depictions of fish with tiny legs, sometimes with the word "evolve" or the name "Darwin" printed inside the fish.
Except the Darwinists don’t help things along by exploding bombs and shooting people up. Other than that it’s exactly the same!
Posted by: Steve White || 12/02/2003 12:54:53 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  If the Coptics are fish and the slick guys are sharks then let the US be the Jets.
Posted by: Lucky || 12/02/2003 1:20 Comments || Top||

#2  How about head-scarf vs. pig-skin cap/scarf with miss piggy printed in new moon in US streets?
Posted by: SK || 12/02/2003 4:08 Comments || Top||

#3  It might be better if the Coptic community continues to keep a low profile until the war on terror i done.
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/02/2003 4:47 Comments || Top||

#4  If the Coptics are fish and the slick guys are sharks then let the US be the Jets.

Naw its... Fish---Shark---SeaWolf
Posted by: Shipman || 12/02/2003 7:34 Comments || Top||

#5  If you're Muslim and your stupid little martyr-ass is shredded/incinerated by an A-10 Warthog, are you forbidden going to heaven? Sounds like psy-ops time
Posted by: Frank G || 12/02/2003 8:38 Comments || Top||

#6  i like the witty rivalry here in the states.

Christians have the fish.
Darwinists have the Amphibians with the word darwin.
Some witty christians reply with a big fish labeled truth eating the amphibian labeled darwin.
And the Jews respond with a fish labeled "gefilte" (yup, i wanna get one)
Posted by: liberalhawk || 12/02/2003 10:14 Comments || Top||

#7  I wanna get one with a lizardman holding a harpoon labeled "LGF".
Posted by: BH || 12/02/2003 10:36 Comments || Top||

#8  I've always wondered where the use of the fish as a symbol for the early Christians came from. The miracale of the loaves and the fishes is one good choice. Another is the fact that the period of the the birth of the church is also the start of the Age of Pisces.
Posted by: Cheddarhead || 12/02/2003 12:09 Comments || Top||

#9  Greek - "Christos"...
Posted by: mojo || 12/02/2003 12:25 Comments || Top||

#10  I've always wondered where the use of the fish as a symbol for the early Christians came from.

As you said, the loaves and fishes is one. Another is that the fish, as commonly drawn, resembles the lower-case alpha, referring to "the Alpha and the Omega".
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 12/02/2003 12:36 Comments || Top||

#11  I'm pretty shaky on Greek, but I thought the letters (not the Alpha Omega ones) spelled "Icthyos" for fish.

And I think Jesus Fish is a great name for a band.
Posted by: BH || 12/02/2003 12:39 Comments || Top||

#12  Finally come across one that doesn't work for an SUV.
Posted by: .com || 12/02/2003 12:45 Comments || Top||

#13  What the Copts need is to modify their fish design to represent a Lionfish - common in Red Sea waters, and extremely deadly, even to a shark. THEN I'm sure we'd see some true craziness erupt from the Muslim side...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 12/02/2003 12:48 Comments || Top||

#14  #11 I always heard that the phrase that spelled icthyos was "Jesus Christ Son of God Savior"
Posted by: Chris Smith || 12/02/2003 12:58 Comments || Top||

#15  Fish = ICTHYS
Iesous Christos THeou Yios Sotir
Jesus Christ, God's Son, Saviour

"Christos" (Christ) by itself means "Annointed One" - the Messiah.
Posted by: Aris Katsaris || 12/02/2003 13:20 Comments || Top||

#16  Turn the fish symbol 90 degrees so the tail is directly down. Look at it a little while and try to figure out what it looks like. Yup, you got it. A depiction of the female genitals. Taken from the old goddess fertility cults. Bet the born agains wouldn't be happy with that interpretation, but it's as good as any
Posted by: Slumming || 12/02/2003 17:06 Comments || Top||

#17  A depiction of the female genitals.

Damn, now I'll NEVER get that smell out! *rimshot*
Posted by: pleasetrytheveal || 12/02/2003 17:45 Comments || Top||

#18  What if some of the Egyptians started putting a stuffed Garfield doll attached by suction cups inside their rear window?

Then we could print up some yellow triangles with the arabic for "Baby Onboard" .... zzzzzzz
Posted by: Super Hose || 12/02/2003 17:49 Comments || Top||

#19  #10 I've always wondered where the use of the fish as a symbol for the early Christians came from.

As you said, the loaves and fishes is one. Another is that the fish, as commonly drawn, resembles the lower-case alpha, referring to "the Alpha and the Omega".


Actually I think the 'fish' came from the command to be 'A fisher of men' when Jesus called Peter (who was a fisher of fish at the time).
Posted by: CrazyFool || 12/03/2003 0:25 Comments || Top||


Caucasus
Shamil Basayev’s worth $5,000,000
A group of Chechen businessmen have offered five million dollars for information that helps "neutralise" Shamil Basayev, the top rebel in Russia’s war-torn republic, the ITAR-TASS news agency reported on Monday. The announcement was made on television in Chechen capital Grozny by Ramzan Kadyrov, son of recently-elected president Akhmad Kadyrov and head of his father’s security service.
Another hereditary president in the making?
"The money will be paid immediately in any form," the news agency quoted Ramzan, as he is known throughout the republic, as saying. Ramzan also called on Chechnya’s residents to "not be afraid of the bandits," as the separatists are accurately called by the Russian military and the pro-Russian Chechen authorities, and to help authorities hunt them down. "The presidential security service is ready to pay 50,000 dollars for the head of (Aslan) Maskhadov," Kadyrov said.
And well worth the price, we might add...
Maskhadov was elected Chechnya’s president in 1997, but Moscow had branded him a "terrorist" at the beginning of the current war in 1999 and has refused to deal with him.
That's because his bad boyz "kill people."
Both he and Basayev, who both fought against Russian troops in Chechnya’s first war with Russia in the 1990s but fell out at the beginning of the second war, are believed to be hiding out in Chechnya’s mountains.
And seem to have fallen in together again...
Meanwhile, two 15-year-olds burned and injured their hands on Sunday while trying to lay a mine near the southern village of Shatoi, ITAR-TASS reported.
What does that have to do with the rest of the story?
Posted by: Dan Darling || 12/02/2003 12:54:09 AM || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  You've got to figure, and I'm no expert on this, that the Rebels are getting their funding from Iran. So why in the hell is Russia not cranking up the heat on Iran.
Posted by: Lucky || 12/02/2003 12:07 Comments || Top||

#2  So why in the hell is Russia not cranking up the heat on Iran.

Easy, it's called cash. Iran has it and is spending it on russian built reactors.
Posted by: Steve || 12/02/2003 12:32 Comments || Top||



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