Three Saudi security officers were killed yesterday when their patrol car caught fire after being hit by gunfire while chasing suspected terrorists in the central city of Buraidah, the Interior Ministry said. "A patrol car caught fire after it was hit by a bullet while chasing a suspects' car, which led to the martyrdom of three security men," in Buraidah, 340 km northwest of Riyadh, a ministry official said.
Seven suspected terrorists were also arrested in a dawn swoop by security forces in southern neighborhoods of Buraidah in the Qasim region, the ministry official said, adding that their identities were being checked. Informed sources told Asharq Al-Awsat that the security forces besieged Al-Khaleej neighborhood, south of Buraidah, yesterday evening after the shootout.
Buraidah witnessed a series of security operations over the past week aimed at tracking down suspected militants linked to the Al-Qaeda terror network. Security forces gunned down a terrorist and arrested another on Friday in a similar chase, hours after a security officer was shot dead and three were wounded when their patrol car came under fire. On Aug. 28, police arrested three wanted terrorists and a Pakistani suspect who came to Buraidah from the southern part of the Kingdom. Interior Ministry spokesman Brig. Mansour Al-Turki said the seven presumed terrorists were arrested yesterday as security forces combed southern Buraidah, but before the police vehicle came under fire.
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Um, this is EXTREMELY UNLIKELY outside of Hollywood special effects. Anyone else see the "Mythbusters" where they tested this? They put, what, a dozen slugs through a gas tank with no more effect than some leaking gas.
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Not to mention that they all politely stayed in the car to burn up instead of slowing / stopping and jumping? If it had exploded it would make more sense. On fire? Shit, I'm outta there!
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I think it was declared that anyone the Saudis decided to surround or chase were infidels. What was that Fatwa #? ALJIZZO8675309? Something like that, heh. Hey, when the Grand Wazoo Chief MuftiMuff is on your payroll, this shit's a snap, lol!
An attack by masked gunmen on a Christian church in Puerto AsÃs, Department of Putumayo, Colombia has left four dead. Besides the four dead, two of which are children, fourteen people were injured in the indiscriminate attack. The television newsprogram "Noticias Uno" (News One) specified that the attack occured inside of the temple of the Christian Alliance Church in the "20 de Julio" (July 20th) neighborhood.
On Sunday, Pilar Castro, Bacteriologist from Puerto AsÃs Hospital said, "Some people came in the church & they started shooting indiscriminately. They shot the elderly, the women, the children & the men." He added that there are five injured victims in the hospital in critical condition. In a public plea for blood on Radio Cadena Nacional, or "R.C.N.", Castro said "We need blood since this is a small hospital that doesn't have an adequate amount to attend to so many injured." The attack occurred in the temple of the Christian Alliance in downtown Puerto AsÃs during evening mass at around 7:00 P.M. It is still not clear who the authors of the attack on the parishioners were. A pastor from the religious community said that they had recieved threats from groups of the extreme left because they preached to the youth so that they wouldn't get mixed up in the war. The pastor added that the attack occured without a single word being said to the worshippers that were attending the evening service & he suggested the attackers took advantage of the confusion to escape the scene.
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Army takes down four F.A.R.C. (Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias de Colombia or Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia) guerrillas & destroys a camp in Antioquia Department:
The deaths of the three insurgents was the result of operations in Ituango, while the fourth occurred in La Estrella (The Star.)
Also in that town the Colombian Army discovered & destroyed a base camp of the F.A.R.C. in which at least sixty people could lodge.
The camp was fitted with drainage ditches, observation posts & a parade ground, amongst other things.
One Colombian Marine Dead & Two Wounded After An Explosion In Puerto InÃrida (GuainÃa)
According to the Colombian Navy the act was perpetrated by a canoe loaded with around fifty kilos (110 pounds) of explosives.
The leadership of the Colombian Navy stated that on Friday morning at 6:30 a Marine checkpoint was performing a search on the InÃrida River in Puerto InÃrida (GuainÃa) when a canoe exploded.
The canoe, a small rustic craft that went by unnoticed (with a length of fifteen meters) contained fifty kilos of homemade explosives.
The dead Marine was identified as William Villalba Triana.
The canoe was heading toward the floating river station that the Marines have on the river.
At this time the Commandant of the River Brigade, Overseer Medardo MartÃnez, is in the area inspecting the damage.
For now the Navy has named the F.A.R.C. as the authors of the attack since it is the only armed group that has influence in this area.
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An American army sergeant who spent 40 years in North Korea has revealed that the Stalinist state operated a programme to breed spies who could pass themselves off as Westerners. As a part of a plea-bargain with the American military, who want him court-martialled on desertion charges, Charles Jenkins has made the extraordinary claim that other former American soldiers living in North Korea were used to father children who are now operating as spies abroad. Mr Jenkins disappeared from a guardbox on the Demilitarised Zone dividing Korea in 1965. He is now receiving medical treatment in a Tokyo hospital after being allowed to leave North Korea with his Japanese wife, but faces attempts to extradite him to the United States for trial.
According to testimony which Mr Jenkins will pass to the US, to whom he says he is ready to surrender, North Korean agents abducted women from eastern Europe and the Middle East, to be married to American soldiers in Pyongyang. In a statement prepared by his American military lawyer, Mr Jenkins said: "In two of the cases, the Americans had multiple children who are now young adults who appear to be American or European." According to Mr Jenkins's account, the Americans were allowed to marry only so that they could produce spies for North Korea, "so they could target American interests in South Korea and beyond". To back up his claim, Mr Jenkins has produced a photograph of five people he alleges to be spies for North Korea. They are believed to be the children of three other American soldiers - James Dresnok, Larry Abshier and Jerry Wayne - who disappeared into North Korea during the Cold War. He says that the photograph was taken in April.
The 64-year-old infantry trooper was allowed to leave North Korea for the first time since 1965 in June. He and his two daughters flew first to Indonesia to meet his Japanese wife, Hitomi Soga, and then on to Japan. After undergoing corrective treatment for a botched prostate operation carried out in North Korea, Mr Jenkins last week promised to turn himself in to the American military. Since then he has for the first time spoken of his hatred for the North Korean regime. Under its control he endured beatings as officials turned the American soldiers against each other. The diminutive Mr Jenkins claims that he was repeatedly bullied by Mr Dresnok. "If I didn't listen to the North Korean government, they would tie me up, call Dresnok in to beat me. Dresnok really enjoyed it," he said.
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You can spot the Nork-Americans Spies easily, put on a scale, if it reads 50 kilos or more... kill 'em.
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You can spot the Nork-Americans Spies easily, put on a scale, if it reads 50 kilos or more... kill 'em.
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(Kim) was widely believed by the West to be insane until Madeleine Albright, the former American secretary of state, declared him to be "perfectly rational" after a summit in 2000.
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Another twist on the Manchrian candidate (original). This is rather frightening, because there have been similar stories that came out of China and Russia during the Cold War.
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REGIONAL intelligence agencies are investigating whether a mystery Chechen bomber linked to an alleged Sydney terror conspiracy was also behind a foiled plot to detonate chemical truck bombs in Jordan five months ago. NSW police have been briefed about fresh fears surrounding Abou Salah, a Chechen bomb-maker named by Frenchman Willie Brigitte as the man he was sent to Sydney to rendezvous with in May 2003. The Jordan plot, which targeted the United States embassy and intelligence offices in Amman, has been deemed the most serious attempt by al-Qaeda to use chemical weapons. It was also one of the first signs that Chechen militants were prepared to align their cause to that of Islamic jihadis outside Russia. Jordanian police and the CIA have been hunting for a Chechen they believe orchestrated the massive chemical weapons plot, which was foiled when six Arab militants were arrested in early April. Another four men were later killed in a shoot-out with police.
Five trucks filled with chemicals and explosives were intercepted 120km inside Jordan having crossed the Syrian border by road. The main chemical seized in the trucks was sulphuric acid, which can also be used as a booster for conventional explosives. The common link between the Amman and Sydney cases is that the Chechen being hunted over the Amman plot is thought to have passed through a Pakistan-based training camp for banned terrorist group Lashkar-e-Taiba in late 2001. Brigitte, who was arrested then deported from Sydney in October last year, has admitted to being at the camp at the same time. The Federal Government's spy agencies are so far not convinced of a link, with one informed national security source describing the suggestion as "highly speculative". Until recently they had also been sceptical of the existence of a Chechen in the Brigitte plot, with some investigators believing the name Abou Salah had been thrown up as a smokescreen.
Leading security expert Rohan Gunaratna told The Australian the Chechen link was being rigorously explored by regional intelligence agencies. "It is known that a Chechen was involved in both cases," he said. "However, it is not yet known that this was the same person. There are very few specialists in the world who have that capability and who can travel." Brigitte has since withdrawn the statement he signed incriminating Salah. However, chief French counter-terrorism judge Jean-Louis Bruguierre is convinced that Salah was a central figure in the Sydney plot. The Australian Federal Police have alleged that Brigitte and a man they arrested in April, Faheem Khalid Lodhi, were members of an LET cell that intended to bomb a major piece of Australian infrastructure, possibly the national electricity grid.
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Four young women, who were abducted and later tortured by militants in Doda district of Jammu and Kashmir, were rescued by troops of Rashtriya Rifles, official sources said in Srinagar. A group of militants belonging to Hizbul Mujahideen intercepted four young girls in Chniyas area of Gandoh tehsil in Doda district a few days back and later abducted them, they said. Blaming them as informers of the security forces, militants tortured, beat and molested them and later tonsured their heads, sources said. The RR troops later launched a rescue operation and after a brief gunbattle managed to secure release of the women from the capativity of militants yesterday, they said. These four victims have been identified as Naseema Bano, Manira Bano, Nasreena Begum and Shabina of Chinayas village, they said. The four women are currently under the protection of security forces in their village.
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Gentle, don't tell me these men are not good Muslims. Tell me what good Muslims are doing to stop men like these Muslim men from bringing the wrath of God down on Islam. Tell me why the Allies shouldn't clean up the Middle East the same way they cleaned up Nazi Germany. Tell me how you would stop this war from escalating.
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Mothers with tears flowing down their faces and fathers trying to hide their emotions buried their children and relatives Sunday as the death toll from Russia's worst ever hostage crisis climbed towards 400. Dozens of well-wishers laid red carnations and plastic bottles of water at the wreckage of School Number One, its charred remains a haunting memory to a three-day standoff that ended with some of the most violent scenes in modern Russian history. The water bottles were a stark symbol of how the children were left without water or food by captors who were demanding independence for separatist Chechnya. "Why? What for? What for?" wept one woman over one of two coffins set under a blue tarp in a courtyard in this town of 40,000, where seemingly everyone knew someone who was affected by the attacks. "A terrorist act is when you blow up something and people die. But our children were executed," said another.
Under gray skies, the men stood silently on the sidelines according to local tradition and prepared huge pots over a wood fire for the solemn post-burial meal. "The whole world now knows this little town. It would have been better if no one knew where Beslan was," the man said softly.
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As the smoke cleared after Friday's gun battle, details began to emerge about how many terrorists seized the Beslan school, their identities and leaders. Deputy Prosecutor General Sergei Fridinsky said Sunday that a total of 32 terrorists had seized the school and that the bodies of 30 -- several of them foreign citizens -- had been recovered. "We're talking about an entire international organization here," Fridinsky told Interfax. "Among the bandits there are Chechens, Ingush, Kazakhs, Arabs and Slavs." Whether the two militants not included in Fridinsky's body count had been detained or were still at large was not immediately clear.
Apparently they got at least one of them...
Rossia television aired footage of police showing one detainee bodies in an effort to identify dead terrorists, while Channel One television aired an interview Sunday night with a different male detainee who reportedly told police he was willing to talk as long as he did not have to face relatives of the hostages.
So why isn't their whereabouts immediately clear? That's two, right?
North Ossetian Interior Ministry spokesman Ismel Shaov told Itar-Tass on Sunday that three suspects had been detained, one of them a woman. It was unclear exactly how many women were among the terrorists. Police said they had recovered the heads of two female suicide bombers, decapitated when their explosives belts detonated. Fatima Alikova, a press photographer who was taking pictures on the first day of school when the terrorists seized the building, told Kommersant that she saw two women among the assailants. "On the first day these women went around and collected all the cellphones," Alikova said, Kommersant reported. "Then they disappeared somewhere, and I never saw them again." Gazeta reported that one of the women was arrested near the security forces' headquarters and before that had been spotted near the field hospital.
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Iraq's government is mired in confusion on whether the most wanted Saddam Hussein aide still on the run has been caught, with the defence minister denying his own ministry's report the fugitive had been seized. Defence Minister Hazim al-Shalaan said reports of the arrest of Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri, who was sixth on a U.S. list of the 55 most wanted members of Saddam's administration and had a $10 million (5.6 million pound) price on his head, were baseless. "We don't have any information regarding this issue. What has been said of a statement by the Defence Ministry is baseless," he told Lebanon's LBC television channel on Sunday.
He was directly contradicting reports from his own spokesmen, who said earlier that Ibrahim had been arrested in Tikrit, Saddam's former powerbase north of Baghdad. Two Iraqi ministers said the capture followed a bloody raid in which 150 of Ibrahim's supporters tried to prevent his capture. Iraqi Minister of State Wael Abdul al-Latif said it was "75 to 90 percent certain" Ibrahim had been seized, adding that 70 of the former official's supporters were killed and 80 captured when they tried to thwart his arrest. He said Arabs from outside Iraq had been among those protecting Ibrahim, who was suffering from leukaemia. "He's in a very deteriorated state of health," Latif said.
Latif said U.S.-backed Iraqi forces captured Ibrahim, but the U.S. military said it had no knowledge of such an operation and the fugitive was not in U.S. custody. In Washington, White House spokesman Trent Duffy said of the reported arrest: "We're still trying to confirm that. We've seen the news reports." The provincial Iraqi National Guard commander in Tikrit said none of his men were involved in any capture mission. "We have no information. No units of ours took part in such an operation," Major General Ahmed Khalaf Salman said. There was also no sign around Tikrit of any battle involving dozens killed. An aide to Iraq's prime minister said DNA tests were under way to confirm whether a man in Iraqi custody was Ibrahim.
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A person detained north of Baghdad who may or may not be Saddam Hussein's henchman Izzat Ibrahim al-Duri is being given DNA tests to check his identity, Prime Minister Iyad Allawi's office said late on Sunday. "Yes, they (Iraqi security forces) captured someone that might be him. They are waiting for the DNA tests so nothing is for sure yet," Allawi's spokesperson Taha Hussein told AFP. Confusion has shrouded the whereabouts of Ibrahim, the most wanted official of Saddam's regime still at large, since a senior Iraqi national guard commander denied reports by his subordinates and the interior ministry that their elusive quarry was now behind bars. The conflicting statements from Iraqi sources came amid US protestations that Ibrahim was not in their custody and that they had received no formal notification of any capture. The feared Saddam henchman accused of bankrolling much of the insurgency in Sunni Arab areas.
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A U.S. assault on one or more of Iraq's three main "no-go" areas — including Fallujah — is likely in the next four months as the Iraqi government prepares to extend control before elections slated for January, the U.S. land forces commander said Sunday.
"Somebody call for an exterminator?"
Army Lt. Gen. Thomas F. Metz's announcement came after a month that saw attacks on U.S. forces reach an average of almost 100 per day — the highest level since the end of major combat last year. Metz, the No. 2 American military leader here, said Iraq's upcoming general election is the next major milestone in Iraq. The U.S. military will work to regain control of rebel strongholds and turn them over to Iraq's fledgling security forces so elections will be seen by Iraqis — and the world — as free and fair. "I don't think today you could hold elections," Metz said during an interview with three reporters at Multinational Corps headquarters near Baghdad International Airport. "But I do have about four months where I want to get to local control. And then I've got the rest of January to help the Iraqis to put the mechanisms in place." An American military offensive will be needed to bring the toughest places to heel, Metz said.
The rebel-held western city of Fallujah is the biggest obstacle, he said. The next biggest problem, in U.S. military terms, is Samarra, 60 miles north of Baghdad — and also in guerrilla hands. Metz believes the easiest of the three troublespots to regain control is Baghdad's Shiite Muslim slum of Sadr City. Parts of the neighborhood of 2 million remain the fiefdom of rebel cleric Muqtada al-Sadr, whose supporters have wired it with hidden bombs and booby traps, U.S. officials say. Besides these centers of rebellion, large sections of Iraq remain beyond government control and out of reach of elections. These include Sunni Muslim areas north and west of Baghdad and, perhaps, southern Shiite cities like Basra, where sections resist U.S. or British troops. Assaults to retake these areas could be done consecutively or simultaneously, Metz said. He said one or more might be solved through negotiations, with leaders warning that their cities face a devastating U.S. offensive if the insurgents don't stand down. "If you're a leader in a town ... do you want to have to go rebuild it because it got destroyed, because foreign fighters came to hang out in your city? They can help us make these decisions," Metz said. The general also said the Americans' August siege of Najaf could be considered a model for subduing rebel-held areas.
Separately, the U.S. military acknowledged that previous estimates placing the number of Iraqi guerrillas at 5,000 were too low. A military spokesman said Sunday that Iraq is beset by up to 12,000 full-time insurgents, a number that swells when part-timers are active. Metz didn't rule out allowing elections in Iraq's government-held areas without participation by voters in rebel strongholds like Fallujah. He said polling was critical in Iraq's three biggest cities, Baghdad, Basra and Mosul. But smaller cities could be left out, he said. "That's not our intention," he said. But "I'd envision the Iraqis could have an election. And if a piece of cancer in the country like Fallujah didn't participate, it would still ... be a legitimate election."
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Looks like the NY Slimes and WaPo will get their wish, the casket counters are planning front page splash stories when the meter hits 1,000 dead.
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I expect the US forces to move sooner rather than later, and there are other targets on the 'to do' list that are being taken out right now, such as Tallafar and Latifiyah. The issue is when all the tactical "ducks are in a row", covering all the bases such as preventing resupply, rearmament, and other support; and taking out the maximum number of recalicitrants who would heft a gun under any banner for the sport of it.
Last but not least, I hope, and I would see the strategic desireability to raze a goodly portion of Sadr City, in the manner of urban renewal. The shopkeepers and residents won't mind when they find their nasty hovels replaced with new buildings, complete with working power and water.
Two days after the bloody end of a hostage crisis that left more than 350 people dead, the identity of the attackers who seized a school in Russia's North Caucasus region remained uncertain. Shortly after the standoff reached its bloody finale on Friday, at least two Russian officials said that several of the hostage takers were Arabs - nine of them, according to an adviser to President Vladimir Putin, or 10, according to the head of the Federal Security Service in North Ossetia, the republic where the attack took place.
The ITAR-Tass news agency on Saturday quoted an unnamed, high-ranking intelligence official in southern Russia as saying experts had surmised from facial structures, and other unspecified characteristics, that one attacker was black and nine were Arabs born in countries close to the "equatorial part of the Arabian peninsula," possibly including Sudan and South Yemen.
In Beslan, the town where the school was seized, some residents were skeptical of the government's portrayal of the attack as an international operation. They tended to look to neighbouring republics in the North Caucasus - particularly war-torn Chechnya, whose rebels have carried out similar assaults in the past, and Ingushetia, whose Ingush ethnic group has tense relations with Ossetians. There was also uncertainty about the number of hostage-takers, and in some cases their fate. North Ossetia's Emergency Situations Minister Boris Dzgoyev said Saturday that 35 attackers were killed. Russian Deputy Prosecutor General Sergei Fridinsky said Sunday that according to the latest information, 32 terrorists had been involved and the bodies of 30 of them had been found, the Interfax news agency reported.
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Russian TV has shown pictures of a man who is believed to have been one of the hostage-takers at the school in the southern town of Beslan. Channel One state television showed the man being dragged into a room by two masked commandoes. His hands cuffed and locked behind his back, he makes a plea to the camera. It is the very first evidence provided by the Russian authorities to back up their claim to have captured three of the hostage-takers alive. In the footage, shown on Sunday evening, the man, whose accent strongly suggests he is from the region and not a foreigner, makes a plea to the camera. "I really didn't go there to die and I still don't want to die. I swear, I swear to Allah the almighty, that I want to live," he says.
Grovel, you cowardly rat bastard!
The presenter says the alleged hostage-taker was trying to escape when the special forces caught him. He had apparently shaved off his beard and was trying to flee with the liberated hostages. The report was highly triumphalist and ended with images of the corpses of the dead hostage-takers crawling with flies.
That's the image I'd want to see if I was a Russer. Matter of fact, I'd find it comforting regardless...
The reports may go some way to reassuring ordinary Russians, many of whom are confused by the contradictory messages about casualty figures and exactly what happened in Beslan. The incident has been a massive embarrassment for the Kremlin, but the message from state television tonight is that everything is now under control.
I don't know why it's an "embarrassment" to the Kremlin. I'd more call it a clear-eyed look at who the enemy is. Hopefully the Russian people will be behind an impending campaign to exterminate them. But I'll wager when it comes, the Russians won't target the Islamsists' children.
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In the footage, shown on Sunday evening, the man, whose accent strongly suggests he is from the region and not a foreigner, makes a plea to the camera.
"I really didnât go there to die and I still donât want to die. I swear, I swear to Allah the almighty, that I want to live," he says.
To the jihadi ( and paraphrasing a line from a movie ):
I won't lie to you about your chances, but you have my sympathy
I hope his death is slow and painful, and he's sent back to his family from 10,000 feet.
Strapped to a bomb.
Wrapped in bacon and pig fat.
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"I really didnât go there to die and I still donât want to die. I swear, I swear to Allah the almighty, that I want to live," he says.
He held children at gunpoint and under threat of bombs. By any sane set of laws, he's one of their murderers.
Find an electric fence charger and slowly burn every scrap of flesh from his body. It won't be nearly enough pain to compensate, but it will be a start.
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Notice that he doesn't look like he's been kicked all over, or bayonetted, or blown to bits. He even looks like he's had some water, maybe even food.
I commend the Russians who *didn't* decide to shove a knife up his arse, and turn it. This filth needs to be seen bleating for its life, then sucked dry of all the information they can get from it, then do something inventive like Barbara is suggesting.
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Tony, hate to burst your bubble, but...
Electrical devices dont leave much of a mark, and rubber hose marks could be concealed easily by his clothing.
This also discounts needle marks from cutaenous (into the skin right into the layer where the nerve endings are, not below it) injection of various substances - there are common field expedients like Capsaicin (good ol Tabasco, or Tiger Balm) readily available, with target areas like the armpits, soles of the feet, scrotum and tissues around the pudendum and anus, and directly into the urethra.
Don't ask me how I know such things. The US doesn't use them. But there was once this group known as the 8th Department of the First Chief Directorate of the Commitee for State Security, and they would come up with a lot of rather inventive "field expedient" methods of interrogation in Afghanistan in the 1980's.
Except now they will not be nearly as restrained - htis is thier home they are defending.
I actually pity these guys - with this kind of wanton slaughter of children, Putin will take the gloves off. And he still probably still has his phone book from his days as a KGB man.
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OS - that reminds me of the part of the Patton speech.
You know, by god I, I actually pity those poor bastards we're going up against, by god, I do. We're not just going to shoot the bastards; we're going to cut out their living guts and use them to grease the treads of our tanks.
Not a good time to be anyone the Russians think had anything to do with this atrocity.
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U.S. and Iraqi forces on Sunday clashed with militiamen loyal to rebel cleric Muqtada al-Sadr in a sprawling Baghdad Shiite slum, a U.S. official said. U.S. Capt. Brian O'Malley of the 1st Brigade Combat Team said Mahdi Army militiamen fired small arms and rocket-propelled grenades at U.S. troops and Iraqi national guardsmen conducting "routine operations" in Sadr City. There were no casualties among the U.S. and Iraqi forces, O'Malley said. He didn't know if civilians or militants in the area suffered any casualties. The Interior Ministry had no immediate information.
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Baghdad, Sept. 5 (NNN): Iraq's interim government has woken up, smelled the coffee and indefinitely extended a month-long ban on Qatar-based Arabic TV lies news channel al-Jazeera, saying there has been no response to fears that broadcasts routinely incite terrorist atrocities, murder, kidnappings, hijackings, homicide bombings, car bombings, truck bombings, wife beating, anti-Semitism, bigotry, religious intolerance and violence. A statement issued by the office of the interim Prime Minister, Iyad Allawi, also accused al-Jazeera of continuing to undermine operate from Iraq despite the ban. The government has complained that Arabic satellite channels encourage kidnappings by showing pictures of hostages being murdered or threatened with execution. Al-Jazeera's reporters in Iraq have said they treat such events only as terrorist propaganda and not news stories, and have suggested the ban is an attempt to suppress terrorist activity and unwelcome lies news.
The hottest selling item at Baghdad's video CD market is not a movie or a music video. It's an ordinary Egyptian whose beheading was filmed by his Muslim militant captors and distributed as a gruesome message to anyone who cooperates with US troops in Iraq. "The CD is in big demand. We sell about 300 to 400 clips a week," said Abu Muhammad, a shop owner who said he didn't have the stomach to watch the decapitation by knife. "We have all kinds of customers, both old and young." The video shows a terrified Mohammed Abdel Aal kneeling in front of masked militants with AK-47 assault rifles as he confesses to planting electronic devices in houses that guided bombs dropped from US warplanes. One of the militants pulls out a knife, knocks down Abdel Aal, then severs his head and places it on his body over a pool of blood. Such acts have been posted on radical Islamic websites carrying footage of several executions since militant groups and guerrillas began a wave of kidnappings of foreigners in April.
It now appears that hostage-takers are also spreading chilling warnings to bustling Baghdad street markets and shops, where the CD of Abdel Aal sells for the equivalent of 70 US cents. Several shopkeepers said the CD of the Egyptian was distributed by people from the guerrilla hotbed of Fallujah to Baghdad vendors who broadcast them on screens over crates along streets. Called "The Spy", the CD appears on store shelves beside productions that have captivated Arab audiences for years, from popular Egyptian comedians to belly dancers to pirated Western action movies. One store owner said he could not bear to watch the execution CD, let alone sell it to scores of customers who appear every day. "I remember I ran over a cat in 1985 and the sound of its suffering still haunts me so I can't watch this death," said Haydar Khalil, 54. "The market is booming but I just can't do it." But his friend, who watched the video, said the Egyptian deserved his fate. "He said he offered Iraqi girls to the Americans. We cannot accept this, especially from a fellow Arab," said Allaa Hamdan, 32. The video has already generated conspiracy theories in a country where people kept quiet for decades to avoid the iron first of toppled Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein. "A Muslim could not do something so barbaric. This was the work of Israeli intelligence trying to give Muslims a bad image in the world," said video shop owner Abu Safwat.
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Boris--
Just highlight the last sentence. Then type ctrl-C (apple-C if on a Macintosh) and then ctrl (or apple) V. There's another post for you and $5 from Iranian intelligence! You know, I was thinking that it might be better for them to pay you in the child pornography you like so much--ask your accountant to see if "barter" gives more favorable tax treatment.
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You just don't understand. That is not Islam. Islam rejects brutal killing of Moslems. I expect the Egyptian was a Copt and had it coming.
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Oh, so Islam does not reject brutal killing of non-moslems then?
I see.
You know, the West is *very very very* good at being brutal when pushed to it. Read up on what the RAF did to Dresden in Feb '45 - 40,000+ burned alive. And that was to Westerners - with 1945 technology. We've come a long long way since then. Pray that we don't get 'brutal'.
Would you care to comment on the events in Beslan? The brutal killing of kids ok with Islam is it?
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Tony - I've always found it fascinating that those who prey upon the weak(er) lose touch with the provable fact that no matter how tough and ruthless they think they are, there's always somebody who could give them lessons. The jihadists live in a bubble of fantasy. The world is waking up - and as you clearly point out, there are people who could easily pop their bubble.
[enter Islamic city of choice here] Weather Forecast:
32,000 degrees and partly cloudy.
I've posted several times here about the "The Three Conjectures", the firepower on *1* Ohio class submarine and, going back some, what the West did to *fellow Westerners* just 60 years ago. I do it to inform people like Gentle what is at stake here. They truly believe that the West will just keep taking these attrocities, and continue giving concessions. My point is that even if the US does nothing (which is certainly not a given), there is still Russia and China in the wings (neither of whom has cared too much about killing vast numbers of their *own* citizens, let alone anyone elses!) There's even Israel - who is quite capable of reducing all major Islamic population centres to radioactive rubble - although with Israel, I feel that will only be used as a "Samson Option".
Wake up Gentle and co.! - the sands are running out, and making comments like "I expect the Egyptian was a Copt and had it coming" does not enamour your belief system to people who really *can* screw up your day!
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Ummmm The Gentle Men was a sarcastic post (not mine)
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Police in Bangladesh have arrested four people Sunday in connection with a deadly explosion in the northeastern city of Sylhet. Two people were killed and at least seven injured when a bomb went off in a rented house. Police did not say who was responsible, but the French news agency, AFP, quoted one official as saying the blast occurred as a man worked with the bomb. The explosion coincided with a visit to Bangladesh by U.S. State Department counter-terrorism official Cofer Black, who joins U.S. experts already in the country assisting local officials.
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Yeah, dad always told me when you're puttering around the house during the weekend and working on your bombs, safety should be foremost in your mind...
Armenia will send a team of military officials to Iraq in September that will prepare for the deployment of a small Armenian army contingent in the war-torn country by the end of the year, a senior official said September 3.
Deputy Defense Minister Artur Aghabekian told RFE/RL that the delegation comprising commanders of the Armenian army's special peace-keeping battalion and U.S.-funded demining center will "take a close look at the location where our contingent will be stationed and ascertain on the spot the tasks which it will perform."
"We expect that after the completion of all formalities the Armenian contingent will leave for Iraq at the end of the autumn or at the beginning of the winter to start carrying out its mission," he said, confirming that it will be made up of U.S.-trained sappers, doctors and a company of military truck drivers.
The chief of the army staff, Colonel-General Mikael Harutiunian, said earlier that a total of about 50 Armenian servicemen will be sent to Iraq. Aghabekian revealed that the non-combat military personnel will be based in the central southern region of the country administered by a Polish-led multinational force. He said Defense Minister Serzh Sarkisian will pass a relevant official note to his Polish counterpart during President Robert Kocharian's visit to Warsaw which begins on Sunday.
The Polish government, which has 2,500 troops on the ground, is facing strong domestic opposition to the military presence in Iraq and is gradually scaling it back. In August Polish troops handed over some of the zone they control to U.S. forces, including the restive province of Najaf. More such handovers are expected next year.
Unlike NATO member Poland, Armenia did not back the U.S. invasion of Iraq last year. Nonetheless, it decided in principle to join the U.S.-led occupation force there shortly after the overthrow of Saddam Hussein's regime. Official Yerevan has said it is undaunted by continuing unrest in the embattled country where deadly bombings and hostage taking are a common occurrence.
The dispatch of the servicemen to Iraq will mark Armenia's second military mission abroad. Thirty-three Armenian soldiers and officers began the first such mission last February when they joined the NATO-led peace-keeping force in the breakaway Serbian province of Kosovo. Aghabekian said they will return home and be replaced by another platoon of the Armenian peace-keeping battalion in the coming days.
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Thank you, Armenia, for joining our "unilateral" mission.
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Nice to see that Armenia finally understands how it has a dog in the fight against terrorism. Maybe Beslan had something to do with their decision.
FIVE ARMENIANS AMONG HOSTAGES IN SCHOOL IN NORTHERN OSETIA 02.09.2004 19:26
/PanARMENIAN.Net/ According to the latest data, there are five Armenians among the hostages in one of the schools in Northern Osetia. One of the Armenian schoolchildren is in the first form.
Iraq (news - web sites)'s toppled leader Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) and his top aides will go on trial within weeks, Iraqi Minister of State Kasim Daoud said on Sunday.
Daoud told a news conference in Kuwait City after talks with top officials that "Saddam Hussein and his band will stand trials within a period of weeks."
Asked if the United States will play any role in the trials, he said: "We have barred the Iraqi government from playing a role, how can we allow a foreign faction to have a role in Saddam Hussein's trial? No...Saddam Hussein will be tried by the Iraqi judiciary and it will issue its just sentence against him."
In mid-August, Iraq's Interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi urged an Iraqi court to speed up proceedings against Saddam.
Saddam -- removed in last year's U.S.-led war on Iraq -- was arraigned before an Iraqi judge on July 1 and charged with crimes against humanity.
Several of his top aides also appeared separately before the same judge for their arraignment. Pending trial, they are being held in a secret location by U.S. forces under Iraqi jurisdiction.
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Iraqi and US forces arrested a man believed to be the most-wanted Saddam Hussein aide still on the run in a bloody raid on Sunday in which 70 of his supporters were killed and 80 captured, the government said.
The defence ministry said Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri - who was sixth on the US list of the 55 most-wanted members of Saddam's regime and had a $10-million price on his head - was captured in Tikrit, Saddam's hometown and powerbase north of Baghdad.
The top five on the list, including Saddam, his sons Uday and Qusay, and "Chemical Ali" Hassan al-Majid, have already been captured or killed. The seventh most-wanted man on the list, Special Security Organisation Director Hani Abd Latif Tilfah al-Tikriti, is still at large.
Iraqi Minister of State Wael Abdul al-Latif told Reuters it was "75 to 90 percent certain" the captured man was Ibrahim. He said 70 of the man's supporters were killed and 80 captured when they tried to prevent him being seized.
Latif said the captured man was suffering from leukaemia and was in very poor health.
The US military has said Ibrahim was directly involved in organising and funding attacks on US forces since the downfall of Saddam. In a deck of cards issued to US troops to help them identify fugitives, Ibrahim was the King of Clubs.
The news spread fast in Baghdad, and in some Shi'a districts residents fired AK-47s in the air in celebration.
Ibrahim was Saddam's number two in the Revolutionary Command Council, and held a senior post on a government committee in charge of northern Iraq when chemical weapons were used against the town of Halabja in 1988, killing thousands of Kurds.
The red-haired Ibrahim was born in 1942 near Tikrit, 160km north of Baghdad, the son of an ice seller.
Ibrahim was one of Saddam's top aides and most trusted confidants. His daughter was briefly married to Saddam's elder son Uday, bonding him within the ruling elite.
If confirmed, the news will be a welcome boost for Iraq's interim government as it tries to crush a deadly insurgency and grapples with a hostage crisis.
France's government said on Sunday it remained hopeful that two French hostages would be freed, although its foreign minister returned empty-handed from a Middle East mission intended to secure their release.
"We have serious reasons to believe both of them are in good health and that a favourable outcome is possible," Foreign Minister Michel Barnier told reporters after discussing the hostage crisis with President Jacques Chirac.
"Our top priority today remains to secure their release. Our priority is their safety," he said. "We are working hard, calmly, cautiously and discreetly."
Journalists Christian Chesnot and Georges Malbrunot were seized on August 20 by militants from the Islamic Army in Iraq, who demanded Paris rescind a law banning Muslim headscarves in state schools. France refused the demands and the law went into force on Thursday.
Police said on Sunday the body of an Egyptian who was kidnapped last month had been found in northern Iraq.
The body of the Egyptian, who was snatched on Aug. 27, was found on Saturday at a roadside near the town of Baiji, 180km north of Baghdad, police said. They said the body bore signs of torture, with hands and legs bound together.
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Hmmm...no mention of US casaulties. These 70:0 kill ratios are something I can live with.
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That ratio is a tough one mathematically, approaching infinity, but I will do my darndest to understand it philosophically.
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Maybe this means that al-Douri doesn't have any support from whatever foreign groups are supporting the groups in Fallujah and in Najaf.
This might indicate a useful way of getting him to cooperate: he's dying, and does he want his dying acts to be helping the people who spurned him and would divide Iraq into Syrian and Iranian spheres?
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His daughter was briefly married to Saddamâs elder son Uday
The marriage was annulled because...? One party came up a head short?
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Phil - Back around the time of the festivities in Fallujah, right afterwards I believe - so about May-June, Al Douri swore allegiance to Al Zarqawi - or so it was reported in a story which was posted here on RB.
Police and intelligence agents raided a village home in eastern Pakistan on Saturday and arrested three men whom officials claimed were arms suppliers for India's spy network in Pakistan.
"Your mission, Mr. Mukkerjee, should you accept it..."
The arrests were made in Rasoolpur Tarar, a village about 170 kilometres northwest of Lahore, said Imran Mahmood, a police official in the area. He said Inter-Services Intelligence agents accompanied police in the early morning raid and took over custody of the three Pakistani men, identified as Mubashir Ahmed, Mohammed Zulfikar and Zakaullah. Mahmood said they seized two grenades and two AK-47 rifles in the raid. An intelligence official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said authorities also found inside the house a map of the army garrison in Rawalpindi. The three men could not be reached for comment, and police wouldn't say where they were being held. The men have yet to be charged with an offence. Authorities were looking for a fourth man, Habib Ahmed, whom Mahmood alleged "was the actual link between these agents and RAW".
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Hezbul Mujahideen's local commander Tariq Aziz was killed in a gunfight with the Lashkar-e-Taiba in the village of Ratnipora, about 50 kilometres south of Srinagar, said Indian police said. The police claim could not be independently verified. On Thursday, police had reported that three militants belonging to the Lashkar-e-Taiba had been gunned down by Hezbul Mujahideen militants.
"Yar! Go fer yer guns, Mahmoud!... Ow!... Ow!... Aiiiieeee! Rosebud!"
The Hezbul Mujahideen, however, rejected the report, saying the rival militants were killed in a gunbattle with Indian soldiers.
"Nope. Nope. Never happened..."
Separately, suspected militants fired at an army patrol in Nagbal village, killing one soldier and wounding two others, a police officer said on condition of anonymity. A police spokesman said at least two of the rebels involved in the attack had sought refuge in a house in Nagabal village, southern southern Pulwama district, and were firing on soldiers trying to flush them out. More reinforcements had been sent to the streamside village, where the standoff began early on Saturday after soldiers discovered the insurgents during a cordon and search operation.
Meanwhile, in Srinagar, the Indian police detained senior separatist leader Javed Mir, who was protesting along with two dozen supporters against this weekend's talks in New Delhi, witnesses said. Mir and few of his supporters were bundled into a police vehicle while his other supporters were dispersed by baton-wielding police, witnesses said. "India and Pakistan cannot resolve the issue of Kashmir without our inclusion," Mir said just before he was detained. "We have to be included as our future is at stake."
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Experts have warned that increased military activity against resistance strongholds in the area could harm the chances of rescuing Radio France International's Christian Chesnot and Georges Malbrunot of Le Figaro.
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"We issued a fatwa urging the group [of hostage-takers] to immediately free and not to harm the two French reporters, in recognition of France's position on Iraq," he said.
Just because the French paid a ransom does not mean that they paid admission and got a guarohnteee. Military ops come first. And I'm sure that the fatwa will be a big help. Geeze Louise! These guys dance around like marionettes.
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(Everyone) 1,2,3.....Ahhhhhhhhh.
I was suppose to lose sleep last night over this one, but forgot to. I slept like a baby and ,strangely enough, don't feel the slightest sense of guilt.
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I wonder if the two French spi...er, journalists are going to executed by that al-Qaeda cell located somewhere in Virginia? Of course, they will be wearing the fashionable orange jumpsuits provided to all priso...hostages, and will confess in a drug addled manner to being Zionist saboteurs before their heads are bloodlessly cut off of their bodies with Swiss Army knives.
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Most interesting thing to me on that Al-Jizz web page is the big skyscraper ad on the left panel with a photo of the Matterhorn that says "State of the Art medical care in Switzerland". Says to me that the Middle East has a mass market of people rich enough to spend their petro dollars jetting off to Switzerland for treatment, yet can't develop competent doctors locally.
Makes you wonder what the local doctors do if not provide quality medical care. One hint might be in the article on female genital mutilation in the current issue of The Economist. The article reports that clitorectomies are much safer in Egypt now that they are overwhelmingly performed by doctors. (Article says 97% of Egyptian women are estimated to have had them.)
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CL-And it will still be decided by fanatical parents upon minor girls. If some nutcase adult woman wants to have it done (under anesthesia, BTW) to prove her purity to her future nutcase husband, I guess I won't block the doorway. When it is performed on helpless little girls or forced on women, I will block the doorway.
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whitecollar redneck wrote: Tap...Tap... Hmmmm..... My sympathy meter seems to be stuck.
Mine too. They have been part of the fabric of lies who has been fed to the French public. This is a not a minor sin: democracy is voided when public does not have access to unbiased information. On many important matters like the European construction, anti-Americanism or the "exception culturelle" (read, maintaining some millionaire actors and directors on tax payer money) the French press position is unanimous and it will go far beyond editorializing (lying and silencing information) in order to brainwash the citizens.
There is a book (in French) about the lies and distorsions of the French press about "Iraqui Freedom". This puts in evidence the complete and cynical lack of respect for the people and the principle of democracy in use between French elites and journalists.
I have better things to lose sleep about than about the lives of those two sonofabitches. For instance the lives hundreds of russian children brutally murered.
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Mister redneck i advise using a simple surprise metre
i still have the one i made in scouts it is chrystal operated and requires no power it is sometimes tough to get a hair of a virgin to ticker the crystal tho
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#7One hint might be in the article on female genital mutilation in the current issue of The Economist. The article reports that clitorectomies are much safer in Egypt now that they are overwhelmingly performed by doctors. (Article says 97% of Egyptian women are estimated to have had them.)
While slightly off topic, but not really, I want to take a moment and commend Classical_Liberal for bringing to our notice the horrendous rate of female circumcision genital mutilation going on in Egypt. I strongly urge everybody to read the article in question. It is a vivid demonstration of why France's hypocritical stance, both in Iraq and regarding the entire war on terrorism reeks the way it does.
Thank you, Classical_Liberal, you have contributed yet another bullet in my belt with which I can confront the appeasers and know-nothings who constantly argue against me about who, what, where, when and how those responsible for everything from 9-11 to Beslan continue propagating the most heinous assaults on modern civilization.
The ongoing surgical desexing of Islamic women is nothing short of a crime against humanity. At some point, these monsters must be brought to account for their hideous mutilations. Preferrably, with a death sentence playing some part in it.
Thanks for the link to that article in The Economist. I missed that. The one on female genital mutilation is in the September 4th 2004 issue. Doesn't look like it is generally available online yet. The 97% figure for Egypt was determined for the International Conference on Population and Development held in Cairo ten years ago when an effort was launched against mutilation. The article notes, "A decade of communication on the health risks of mutilation means that the figure has fallen slightly, but the big shift is that the procedure is now performed mainly by doctors, which makes medical arguments against it less convincing to those who seek it out."
Armed gunnies protesters have stormed Palestinian Authority offices in a southern Gaza Strip town, demanding that the body do more to assist families left homeless by an Israeli raid. About 15 Palestinians, not affiliated to any resistance movement, seized the office of governor Husni Zurub in Khan Yunis early on Sunday and expelled most of the 22 workers in the building. The protesters, calling themselves Fighters of the al-Namsawi Neighbourhood in Khan Yunis, later reached an agreement with the governor, representatives of the general emergency committee and chief of police, Aljazeera's correspondent reported. A spokesman for the group, Abu Majahid, told Aljazeera that it was agreed that all affected families in the al-Namsawi neighbourhood would be compensated, the area would be considered a damaged zone and all homeless citizens whose homes have been demolished by Israeli occupation forces would be compensated.
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Doubt surrounds earlier reports claiming that US and Iraqi forces had captured Saddam Hussein's deputy Izzat Ibrahim al-Duri, after a battle left 70 of his supporters dead. Al-Duri was reportedly apprehended while he was receiving medical treatment in Tikrit, a stronghold of Baath party supporters. He is suffering from leukaemia and his health had deteriorated, Iraqi officials said. Iraqi authorities said there was a 75-90% chance that the captured man was al-Duri - one of the most wanted men in Iraq.
Occupation authorities had accused him of coordinating attacks against US forces in the country. A group of 150 armed men fought against US and Iraqi troops before his capture. Observers said al-Duri's capture will not stop attacks on US forces in Iraq. Dr Nabil Mohammed Salim from the centre of international studies in Baghdad University doubted the man who was Saddam's number two in Iraq's Revolutionary Command Council was linked to the ongoing resistance against occupation forces. London-based political activist Abd al-Amir Alwan told Aljazeera his arrest would be used for political gain by the Iraqi government. "The US administration and the Iraqi government want to enlarge this in order to divert the attention from the issue of the legitimacy of the Iraqi government and the resistance," he said. "Accusations that Saddam Hussein, Izzat al-Duri or Abu Musab al-Zarqawi were behind the resistance were false as there is a vast resistance in the north and the south of Iraq and it is not related to Izzat al-Duri or any other person. There are many factions refusing the occupation," he said. "The man is part of the former regime and he is ill and I think that he was just a follower to Saddam. What made him important was his close relationship with Saddam. Giving the incident such significance is camouflage and misleading. It is the people's resistance and I do not think the arrest will affect the resistance."
"The arrest of Izzat al-Duri will definitely make Iraqi people happy and sadden former Baath cells to which he belonged. The arrest was not a surprise", Samir Ubayd, a Paris-based Iraqi journalist told Aljaazeera. "The arrest does not mean anything particularly after the toppling of the former regime in which Izzat was just a tool in the hand of Saddam. So I think there was not a vast resistance he was leading. The resistance has been popular and now it has got rid of accusations of working with al-Duri".
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"Bah, Saddam was not important to the Iraqi resistance. He was just a figurehead to the huge, enormous shadow organization of all good Iraqis struggling against the foreign invaders. There are dozens, hundreds of leaders far more important than he. Millions and millions of Iraqis stand united against the drug-crazed infidels who daily die by the tens of thousands, eaten alive by the biggest spiders you can possibly imagine!"
THE trial of ousted Iraqi president Saddam Hussein and his cronies, including number two Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri whose arrest was announced today, will begin before elections due in January, an Iraqi minister said today. "The trial of Saddam Hussein and the rest of his clique, including Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri, will start before the Iraqi elections scheduled for January," said State Minister Qassem Daoud, who is on a visit to Kuwait. Mr Daoud said that "between 150 and 200 terrorists whom Douri supervised and financed" were arrested along with Ibrahim. Iraqi officials said earlier today that Ibrahim had been arrested on the outskirts of the town of Tikrit after fierce clashes with his supporters that left about 70 people dead or injured.
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Attackers fired rockets and assault rifles at a police station and a paramilitary post in separate incidents in Jaffarabad, 400 kilometres southeast of Quetta. No injuries were reported.
I see the Bugtis are awake...
Late Friday, 18 rockets were fired at a police station in Jaffarabad, said police official Khadim Hussain Rind on Saturday. Three of the rockets damaged a wall, but the rest slammed into a nearby field. The assailants also fired dozens of rounds from AK-47s. Separately, four rockets were fired at a paramilitary checkpoint in neighboring Sui, about 350 kilometres southeast of Quetta, but landed in a deserted area without causing damage. No one claimed responsibility for either attack and no arrests were reported. Authorities suspect the involvement of local tribesmen who are seeking more royalties from the government for natural gas extracted from their territory.
That's who it usually is...
Early Saturday, paramilitary troops seized a cache of arms — 171 rockets, 89 artillery shells and seven grenades — in mountains near Zhob, said spokesman Col Mohammed Rizwan Malik. No one was arrested. Malik said authorities were trying to find out who owned the weapons.
[Knock knock!]
"Whaddya want?"
"These your explosives?"
"Lemme see... Nope. Mine are blue!"
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An Iraqi militant group appealed today to an influential Sunni Muslim organization for an edict on whether the kidnapping of foreigners who work for occupation forces is acceptable under Islam. The appeal came as a Turkish transportation company, Renay International, announced it would withdraw from Iraq a day after Iraqi militants threatened to behead one of its employees - the latest company to meet kidnappers' demands to go. Also Sunday, a slain Egyptian was found near Beiji, about 150 miles north of Baghdad, his hands bound and signs of a beating on his corpse, said Iraqi Maj. Gen. Anwar Mohammed Amin. It was not immediately clear if he was a kidnapping victim.
Militants waging a 16-month insurgency have increasingly turned to kidnapping to force coalition forces and contractors from the country. More than 100 foreigners have been abducted since the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2002 and many have been executed. The Arab television station Al-Arabiya on Sunday aired a videotape showed a masked man identifying himself as a member of the group ``Holders of the Black Banners,'' reading a statement seeking a ``fatwa'' or religious edict from the Association of Muslim Scholars in Iraq. The militants asked whether Islam permits the kidnapping and killing of foreigners who work for occupation forces, sayind the association should ``issue a legal fatwa defining this issue, and we are ready to abide by it.'' The Holders of the Black Banner recently kidnapped seven truck drivers from India, Kenya and Egypt, demanding their employer stop working in Iraq. The drivers were released after weeks in captivity. The Association of Muslim Scholars had no immediate comment.
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The "Association of Muslim Scholars" will have th burden of the entire Islamic religion resting on their answer.
The militants asked whether Islam permits the kidnapping and killing of foreigners who work for occupation forces
Hmmm - There's that religion of "peace" again.
I'm wondering if some of those soldiers in North Ossetia will ask the senior Russian Orthodox priests if coating the dead Chechen terrorist's bodies with lard as an incendiary before the bodies are cremated violates any New Testament passage?
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It is a lot easier to do soemthing and explain why you did it than to do nothing and try to explain why.
So, I s'pect even amoungst devoutly Russian Orthodox FSB/Army guys, they're not too worried about being caught putting wimmins' panties on the heads of these jihadis.
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The Association of Muslim Scholars had no immediate comment.
This is a very difficult question for a Muslim scholar to answer when the entire world is watching.
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"a slain Egyptian... his hands bound and signs of a beating on his corpse... It was not immediately clear if he was a kidnapping victim"
The alternative is what? He volunteered?
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Iraq militants ask if kidnapping foreigners is acceptable under Islam
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The Assoc of Muslim Scholars are bought and paid for Baathists. They used to be on Sadaam's payroll. These guys are tools who will issue fatwa's for money. They are highly political unlike their Shiite counterparts. (My info comes from the blog of an Iraqi prof of ME studies at Berkeley. He hates the US as do most of his posters. The terrorists in Iraq are only nationalists fighting invaders, etc. Regardless, some good info. Sorry, the link is on my work computer.)
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About 1,100 U.S. soldiers and Marines were wounded in Iraq during August, by far the highest combat injury toll for any month since the war began and an indication of the intensity of battles flaring in urban areas. U.S. medical commanders say the sharp rise in battlefield injuries reflects more than three weeks of fighting by two Army and one Marine battalion in the southern city of Najaf. At the same time, U.S. units frequently faced combat in a sprawling Shiite Muslim slum in Baghdad and in the Sunni cities of Fallujah, Ramadi and Samarra, all of which remain under the control of insurgents two months after the transfer of political authority. "They were doing battlefield urban operations in four places at one time," said Lt. Col. Albert Maas, operations officer for the 2nd Medical Brigade, which oversees U.S. combat hospitals in Iraq. "It's like working in downtown Detroit. You're going literally building to building."
The sharp rise in wounded was, for the first time, accompanied by a far less steep climb in battlefield fatalities. Since the start of the war in March 2003, 979 U.S. troops have died in Iraq and almost 7,000 have been wounded. Until last month, however, the monthly tallies of fatalities and wounded rose and fell roughly in proportion. In August, 66 U.S. service personnel were killed in Iraq, according to the Defense Department. The toll was the highest since May, when 80 fatalities were recorded. But it was well below the 135 U.S. combat deaths in April, when a sporadic guerrilla war that had largely been confined to the so-called Sunni Triangle north and west of Baghdad spread to cities across the previously quiescent Shiite Muslim belt in southern Iraq. The U.S. military does not routinely release the reported number of Iraqi casualties and wounded.
Commanders said they had no immediate concrete explanation for why the number of wounded increased so sharply without a comparable rise in combat deaths. "All I know is I've got more patients here," said Col. Ryck Beitz, commander of the 31st Combat Support Hospital in Baghdad, which admitted 425 patients last month, a new high.
"So shut your fudge up and get the hell outta my hospital!"
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The DU moonbats are pining away for the 21 deaths that'll put it at 1000. You can bet Kerry's camp's got slogans ready too. Assh&les
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How many significant factual errors and distortions just in this excerpt? Let's see.
I'm open to instruction on this one -- Ramadi and Samarra are "under the control of insurgents"? Huh? That's news to me, as one of SNL's faux news anchors (Kevin Neelan?) used to say.
The description of the April events is an elaborate version of the "widespread fierce fighting across Iraq" lie that wire services have inserted into every story since April. Aside from the very short-lived Sadr "uprising" in a few southern locales at that time -- where I believe very few of the KIAs were taken, as well -- there was no spread of guerrilla war.
Then there's the ongoing toggle-switch thing with killed through hostile action vs. total who have died in all ways. Surprisingly, some media outlets have occasionally done the obvious correct thing and broken out the KIA vs. died through natural causes, suicides, industrial accidents, etc. I say "surprising" because of course doing this yields a smaller number of KIA -- not good for the misleading and tendentious media framework about Iraq. I usually check lunaville.org for the break-out, which has been running roughly 75% KIA/25% other causes. For purposes of putting the whole thing in perspective, I've been searching for a global DOD "other" causes figure (so that Okinawa, Oklahoma, and Italy, etc., are included) -- anyone know of one?
The other thing (perhaps explored in the rest of the article, but I can't bear to put myself though WaPo stuff in general any more) is the wounded break-down. I saw one report a few months back describing one battle's aftermath, and I was suprised by the high # of wounded who were only lightly injured and had returned to duty within 24 hours. The 7,000 number, to have much meaning, should be broken down this way.
The excerpt refers to the answer to its own implied question -- why the changing proportions of wounded vs. KIA -- without seeming to realize it. The answer is that the US is on the offensive (and also that units have learned, and improved their m.o.). The April anomaly was, I believe, entirely explained by a few incidents in which the bad guys took the unexpected initiative. I also believe most US fatalities have been in purely passive situations, i.e. roadside bombs and other situations where there is no ongoing exchange of fire. When there's combat, the other side loses, and loses real, real big, every time.
Gee, ya think that along with the pro forma disclaimer about the US side not releasing enemy KIA numbers, the Post might have made the entirely reasonable and obvious comment that enemy casualties are known to be hugely disproportionate, and that nearly every encounter with US forces is lethal to the bad guys, the main reason they mostly avoid such encounters? Nah, that would be editorializing, I guess .....
A USMC friend now in al-Anbar said before he headed out there last month that the "exchange ratio" of USMC and bad guys KIA in that province was approaching 1-50. Something to consider when the sporadic reports of one or two Marines KIA in western Iraq trickle in.
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US troops battled rebels in the northern town of Tall Afar for a second day as Iraqi and US forces arrested 500 suspected militants in the heartland of the Sunni Muslim insurgency. Militants killed an Egyptian working for the Americans near Saddam Hussein's hometown of Tikrit, while France anxiously awaited word on the fate of two journalists held hostage by extremists. Iraqi police and national guardsmen, assisted by US forces, raided the town of Latifiya, 30 kilometres south of Baghdad, marking the first time the interim government has taken decisive action against a Sunni Muslim stronghold since it was sworn in more than two months ago. Twelve policemen were killed Sounds like they're in the game but need some more training. Kurds?
and 17 people wounded in the operation, with 500 suspected "terrorists" arrested and a large haul of weapons seized, including five barrels of TNT, an Iraqi intelligence officer said. The town is part of a virtual no-go zone for US troops, Iraqi police and foreigners and has earned the name "Fallujah's second head" after the Sunni rebel strongold west of Baghdad. The spot is where two French journalists, held by a group calling itself the Islamic Army of Iraq, disappeared on August 20. It was not clear whether the raid would affect their prospects for freedom. Let's hope not. The French should not be able to blame any one but themselves if it goes south.
Violence also flared in northern Iraq as US troops and insurgents fought in Tall Afar, which the military claims serves as a way station for militants slipping into Iraq from Syria. Fighting erupted after gunmen fired on a US army convoy outside the town, 60 kilometres west of Mosul, said police lieutenant Ghaith Mohammed Al-Obeidi. US soldiers and Iraqi national guardsmen then poured into Tall Afar and clashes broke out in the town centre, lasting for about two hours before the US and Iraqi forces withdrew, he said, adding that US helicopters opened fire on insurgents. The rebels are currently in full control of Tall Afar, Obeidi said. Thirteen Iraqis were killed and 53 wounded Saturday when a US army battalion, backed by Iraqi national guardsmen, launched an offensive in Tall Afar on the hunt for militants infiltrating Iraq from Syria.
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arrested 500? Kill.them.
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Iraqi and US forces arrested 500 suspected militants
When the hell is the clueless MSM going to get it straight?
It's a WAR. They captured 500 of the enemy.
I'm with Frank G.
And bury they with bacon and sausage.
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Saddam Hussein's former second-in-command, Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri, was arrested in northern Iraq, an Iraqi Defense Ministry spokesman told al-Hurra television. Saleh Sarhan said al-Douri was captured while in a clinic where he was receiving medical treatment. "There was a major operation around Tikrit and al-Dour and American forces supported by Iraqi civil defense corps members were able to capture Izzat al-Douri," he told the U.S. government-funded Arabic-language station in a live telephone interview. Saddam was captured at a safehouse near al-Dour in December. The U.S. military said it had no immediate comment on the report. Sarhan said al-Douri was now in the hands of the Americans. Al-Douri, who had a U.S. bounty of $10 million on his head, was the highest-ranking member of Saddam's government who was still at large. Once the vice chairman of the Baath Party's Revolutionary Command Council, he was a longtime confidant of Saddam. He is No. 6 on the U.S. military's list of 55 most wanted figures from Saddam's regime. Forty-four on the list had been captured or killed
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The man described as Saddam Hussein's enforcer has been captured in a joint US-Iraqi raid in the north of the country, Iraq's defence ministry says. Izzat Ibrahim al-Douri was apparently arrested on Saturday while receiving treatment at a clinic near Tikrit. Officials said 70 of his supporters were killed and dozens more arrested as they tried to prevent his capture. Mr Douri had been the most senior figure in the former regime still at large, and the most wanted. The US military has not yet confirmed his arrest.
Mr Douri was Saddam Hussein's number two in the Revolutionary Command Council, and was sixth on the list of 55 most wanted members of the regime. The top five have all been captured or killed. He is accused of financing insurgent groups, and has a $10m price tag on his head. Douri was one of Saddam's most trusted confidants The BBC's Paul Wood in Baghdad says it is not clear whether anyone has claimed the reward - in other words, whether he was betrayed by someone who was part of his inner circle, as were Saddam Hussein's two sons.
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This guy can bust wide open the Sunni Triangle "insurgency" groups - including our pal Zarqi - at least for a short period of time. I wonder if this announcement was sanctioned by the Mil Cmd. Prolly not. I would expect some hard-charging raids / airstrikes while the intel's still good.
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But we've had bin Laden under wraps for months. Why can't the military keep this one under wraps too? /sarcasm>
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Given the prominent role this guy played in the insurgency, you would think the NY Slimes and the WaPo would give major coverage, but nnoooo!
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We must remember to treat this guy with all the love and respect that we can muster. Remember the hug-and-thug program after Abu Ghraib.
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I bet he's got panties on his head already....
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Iraqis are taking credit for the seizure, which is OK with me. More from rooters:
The ministry said Ibrahim was captured by members of Iraq's national guard backed by U.S. forces. Tikrit was Saddam's hometown and one of the powerbases of his regime.
Iraqi Minister of State Wael Abdul al-Latif told Reuters it was "75 to 90 percent certain" the captured man was Ibrahim. He said 70 of the man's supporters were killed and 80 captured when they tried to prevent him being seized.
Latif said the captured man was suffering from leukemia. It has long been rumored that Ibrahim was suffering from the disease.
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The news spread fast in Baghdad, and in some Shi'ite districts residents fired AK-47s in the air in celebration.
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but why would they celebrate? According to MM, they were so much happier with Sadaam than they were with the evil occupation.
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DL, don't worry, Gentle will be here soon to explain the celebrations and Beslan so that you will understand Islam is a Religion of Peace.
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MSNBC just reported that the US military spokesman said they did NOT have Al Douri. Seems to be some confusion.
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Both CNN online and WaPo online say Iraqis say "yes, we've got him" and US says "cannot confirm." I'll celebrate when the CENTCOM spokesman comes out and starts ululating.
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Both CNN online and WaPo online say Iraqis say "yes, we've got him" and US says "cannot confirm." I'll celebrate when the CENTCOM spokesman comes out and starts ululating.
Then it had better be a spokewoman cause ovder there it is only the women who ululate in a celebratory fashion. If it is a spokesman then he should be firing his AK into the air. Or M16.
Ayatollah Haeri, an Iraqi who came to Qum for religious studies in 1973, had appointed Mr. Sadr to be his representative and Friday Prayer leader in the city of Kufa after the fall of Mr. Hussein. "Moktada is not his representative anymore," the ayatollah's brother, Mustafa Haeri, who is also the director of his brother's office in Qum, said late last month. On his Web site, alhaeri.org, Mr. Haeri denies supporting Mr. Sadr and says that he has stripped him of his position. The first evidence of Ayatollah Haeri's change of heart toward Mr. Sadr came in August 2003, when he told Alireza Shaker, an analyst and journalist in Tehran, that although he opposed the presence of American forces in Iraq, he was concerned over "the timing and the location" of Mr. Sadr's revolt. "He felt that his support for Mr. Sadr may tarnish his reputation in the Shiite world," Mr. Shaker said in an interview. "He wants to be able to play a role in the future of Iraq, and so wants to keep a good name for himself." Mr. Shaker said that when he had visited Ayatollah Haeri last year at his office, a group of Mr. Sadr's supporters, who had come from Iraq, were causing a commotion at his office, apparently in response to his effort to distance himself from Mr. Sadr. "You are traitor," Mr. Shaker said one Iraqi kept shouting.
There is heavy security at Ayatollah Haeri's office, on a narrow alley off the main street of Qum. He cautiously drives into the backyard of the office with his bodyguard, who is a member of Iran's hard-line Revolutionary Guard, and refuses to meet with journalists. Ayatollah Haeri, 68, defected to Iran after Mr. Hussein's government began expelling Iraqis who were of Iranian origin. It is unclear whether he was born in Iran or Iraq, but his grandfather was Iranian. Ayatollah Haeri is a supporter of an Islamic state in Iraq, unlike Iraq's most revered cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, who favors separation of state and religion. He favored armed opposition of Mr. Hussein, and his religious decrees were collected in a book, "The Case For Armed Opposition." Ayatollah Haeri has developed close ties with Iranian officials over the years and is a member of the board that approves the religious credentials of candidates running for the Council of Experts, which is responsible for supervising the conduct of Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. During the Iran- Iraq war Ayatollah Haeri closed his school in Qum and went to fight against Iraq. He urged his students and his son to join the Iranian forces. His son, Javad, was killed in the war.
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hokay! Now, can we kill him?
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ookaaay.....what's missing here?
A man who is a member of Iranâs hard-line Revolutionary Guard, and refuses to meet with journalists", and has close ties with Iranian officials, is a member of the board that approves the religious credentials of candidates running for the Council of Experts, which is responsible for supervising the conduct of Iranâs supreme leader, fought against Iraq, whose son died in that war and has a book called "The Case for Armed Opposition"...picks Sadr as his man to fight the fight, but ....
OVER A YEAR AGO ..."when he told Alireza Shaker, an analyst and journalist in Tehran, that although he opposed the presence of American forces in Iraq, he was concerned over "the timing and the location" of Mr. Sadrâs revolt. "He felt that his support for Mr. Sadr may tarnish his reputation in the Shiite world," Mr. Shaker said in an interview" and over A YEAR AGO distanced himself enough from Sadr to be called "a traitor".
oookaay...so he refuses to talk to journalists - but apparently does talk to journalists - and who supports armed opposition - but OVER A YEAR AGO opposed the Sadr monster he created.
Question 1. Why are we just hearing about this now? Why is this only now seeing the light of print?
Question 2. Does this mean that Sadr is sooo "dead" that Iran is working hard to say they never really liked him much to begin with??
Wow! One can't help but to wonder why this major dismissal of Sadr was never noted before!
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Between this and the article on drudge - talking about the possibility of bin Laden and his top aides being captured - I smell a major sting operation about to go down.
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Wishful thinking B. If anything, it's most likely mistakes will be made while trying to issue orders for attacks during our election. That would most likely lead to Osama. Which would lead to the LLL mentioning the 'convience of the capture. The timing just might be a conspiracy to keep Kerry out of office too. Except the people behind the plot would be the military, making sure they don't wind up with a dutchsbag for Commander and Cheif.
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Power Politics.
The Iranian Imams are figuring out that the Iraqi Public (especially the Shia) view Al Sadras a thug, and backed by Iranians. This makes the Iranian Imams associated with such things, and makes them much more discredited in the eyes of the public - and strenghtens Al Sistani's hand.
Bottom line, Al Sadr's self destruction is making Iranian operations in Iraq even more difficult, due to lack of support from the locals. So they are cutting him off from his allowance for a while.
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Charles - and if we dont capture OBL then the LLL would claim "Where's Osama?". Mike Al-Moore is already claiming such in Fart-911.
Fuck-em. If we get OBL then drag his sorry ass out, put a used woman's panty in his head and parade him down the main streets of NYC. Then take him the the two towers site, grease him in lard and shoot em.
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CF - good plan, except where are you going to find a woman who would give up her used panties for that? The LLL would be appalled we weren't kissing his ass, and normal women like me wouldn't sully our panties, even knowing they would have to be destroyed with a blowtorch later.
Bigger insult - shave his beard and moustache. I'd give him a Mohawk, too, but that's just me. :-p
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Boil the SOB in lard. On live satellite feed to the whole world. Advertise this as the going rate for being convicted as a terrorist. It would get their attention, at the very least.
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Bigger insult - shave his beard and moustache. I'd give him a Mohawk, too, but that's just me. :-p
Even better idea: Put his hair in curlers, have Lyndie England do him up with makeup, complete with wimmins' panties on his head
Violence left 44 dead in Iraq yesterday in one of the bloodiest days since the new Iraqi government took office, as hopes slipped for two French journalists held by a radical Islamic group and saboteurs hit oil pipelines in the north and south of the country. Police suffered heavy losses in two incidents, and clashes raged between US forces and insurgents. The pipeline attacks were yet another blow to Iraq's fragile economy, after an attack earlier in the week crippled a key oil export pipeline to Turkey.
Iraqi police and national guardsmen, assisted by US forces, launched a major assault on the no-go zone of Latifiya, a stronghold of the Sunni Muslim insurgency south of Baghdad, in the boldest offensive by the new government since it took power at the end of June. The 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit said the raid targeted criminals and militants. Twelve policemen were killed and five national guardsmen wounded in the raids that saw 200 suspects arrested, an Iraqi national guard officer said. ''We have received orders from Prime Minister Iyad Allawi to search Latifiya for weapons and terrorists,'' he told AFP. ''The operation will last at least a week.'' The officer, who declined to be named, was speaking from Mahmudiya, another town on the deadly stretch of road where foreigners, US forces and Iraqi police have often been targeted by insurgents.
Violence also flared in the northern city of Kirkuk, where 17 people were killed and 36 wounded in a suicide car bombing, said Doctor Ridha Abdullah, head of the Kirkuk general hospital. The bomb went off in front of a police academy, and 14 of the dead were policemen. Also in northern Iraq, 13 Iraqis were killed and 53 wounded as US forces and insurgents battled for six hours in Tall Afar, west of the main city of Mosul, medics said. The US troops, backed by a small national guard detachment, poured into the city after dawn to hunt down a ''terrorist cell'' and detained a wanted individual, the military said. ''The city of Tall Afar has been a suspected haven for terrorists crossing into Iraq from Syria,'' it said. Insurgents hit a US helicopter with gunfire and two soldiers were wounded as the chopper made an emergency landing. As the clashes intensified, an F-16 fighter jet dropped a large bomb near the city, the military said. Soldiers guarding the downed helicopter killed two insurgents after coming under rocket-propelled grenade fire, it said, adding that three Iraqi national guards were wounded in a separate incident. It was unclear whether their deaths were included in the total for Tall Afar. US troops pulled out at 2pm (2000 AEST), with insurgents still hunkered down behind cars and in buildings awaiting a fresh assault.
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I really hope I am incorrect in the following observation.
Has anyone noticed that the in the last coupled of weeks the level of Islamic terrorist inflicted multi-bloodbaths has risen to a VERY frenzied degree. Why? Could it be the killers of jihad movement are relishing the upcoming date of September 11th, 2004 in which Wahhabi death cultists staged the worst terrorist cowardinated terrorist attack in America's history? Or.... Have some of the head al-Qa'ida henchmen already planed another Russian school slaughter in another country on or about the 21st century's day which shall live in infamy?
Al Qa'ida's 'Terrorist Inc.' has frighten demonstrated their brutal, beast-like willingness, and even glee, at machine gunning down small children in the back. The murder toll from the Russian school massacre is at least 350 victims of extremist Muslim madness. Are other jihadic fanatics lurking out there ready to inflict even greater terrorism at another grammar school?
Let us hope & pray the coming week leading up to next Saturday's September 11th or 2004 passes without further incident's involving national security issues or breaches of public safety.
The American public (except wacko leftwing protesters) could do with some breaking news concerning substantial victories against the Islamo-Fascist enemies of the civilized world. Bagging Osama alive would an incredible moral boost. A heavy dose of truth serum will be in order.
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AFTER more than 24 hours in the sweltering heat of the school gymnasium in Beslan, one of the boys trapped inside could not take it any longer, writes Peter Conradi. Summoning up his courage, he approached a hostage taker with a bayonet fixed to his assault rifle and asked him for a drink. It was probably the worst error that he could have made. "Instead of giving him water, he drove his bayonet through the boy's body," said Stanislav Tsarakhov, 10, another captive standing nearby. "I don't know if he died."
Details of the incident emerged as children who escaped the siege described how their captors had deliberately deprived them of food and water, repeatedly firing guns into the ceiling to try to silence them. "The hostage takers would hold their machineguns to your temple and said that if there was a lot of noise, they would shoot everyone," said a girl, who gave her name only as Zalina.
Diana Gadzhinova, 14, who also survived the siege, said that one of the greatest hardships had been the lack of food and drink. "When we were let out to go to the lavatory, some children would run into a room where there were plants in pots and they would eat them," she said. "Others would hide the plants in their underwear and share them with their friends. But the hunger was not as bad as the thirst. Some children couldn't take it and would urinate into their hand and drink." At another point, Gadzhinova said, they were all ordered to lie down. There were so many people packed into the gym that they had to lie on top of each other. "The gunmen warned that if there was an arm or a leg in their way, they would shoot at it without warning," she said.
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Gentle? Anti? Any comments on these brave holy islamic soldiers?
The more I read about this the more I become against Islam as a religion. The lack of denouncements from major islamic organizations merely shows that this is, in fact, true Islam.
I would rather give it the benefit of a doubt but this cries out for truth.
Has anyone heard or read any denouncements from major Islamic organizations? CAIR has not. IslamOnline has not.
Every Imam that refuses to immediately denounce this - and fails to start acting against it in visible ways - deserves a cranial 7.62mm high-speed injection.
The last time Alla Gadiyeva saw her first-grade son and mother — at the violent climax today of Russia's 53-hour hostage saga — she was helping them to escape. She pushed them out of a school window with other hostages, and fell back exhausted. "Then, I was praying," says the young mother, recounting the ordeal from a stretcher outside the city hospital, after her own rescue several hours later. "We were all praying."
The most common version of events is that the hostage-takers opened fire on a vehicle sent in to retrieve bodies of those killed at the start of the seizure of Beslan's Middle School No. 1, in southern Russia. Russian authorities said they were forced to storm the building at that point. Almost immediately, says Mrs. Gadiyeva and others, at least one group of children managed to escape while being shot at by their captors.
Russian forces battled the hostage-takers for hours as explosions and grenades rocked the city. Russian troops — with special forces spearheading the storming — killed 27 hostage-takers and captured three alive, officials told the Interfax news agency. The end of the siege Friday brought tears of joyful reunion for those with children who were brought out alive. For some others, who did not find their family members' names on the survivor lists, it elicited high-pitched wails of sorrow. "My niece is missing - she's not on any of the [survivor] lists," said one woman, sitting alone on a small stump under a cluster of trees, shoes off and head buried in her hands. When the Russian raid began today, said the woman, "we were frightened. Of course we didn't want [a raid]. Everyone knew how that would end."
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The most common version of events ?????
There are hundreds of survivers ..... any reporter only capable of sayint, "the most common version of events", should be fired for incompetence.
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Of course they have to find "the most common version of events." You know the whole thing was rigged by the Zionists to bring about the fall of Islam, right? Right? Sarcasm off.
I've had it with media reporters and their opinions. I've had it with Islam being the "religion of peace." True facts aren't facts anymore; they're considered lies to condemn that cult of evil masquerading as a religion.
I'm still not hearing too much outrage over this atrocity, either. I figured the image of fleeing women and children getting gunned down by terrorists would hit a nerve somewhere in the world community. Seems like the blame is, once again, falling on the government for trying to eliminate these violent, worthless criminals.
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Sheesh, I'm still so bummed out by what happened. Lets hope those who lost their lives in this will have an impact on the world enough to put an end to jihad. Or at least steel the backbone of the world.
WTC, Sudan, Russian school children, Madrid train bombings, Cut-throating, Murder by God. Moderate my ass. Nothing moderate about the cult of allah. If the world starts exterminating these mezmorized lunitics today and I mean koranitics, It's a day short for me. Sorry kids. Thats the way they feel about me.
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First sentence: Thirty relatives of the leader of Chechen separtist leader Aslan Maschadov, including his wife, were transported away in Thursday toward an unknown destination by masked people who had come in armored vehicles, according to Maschadow's delegate Achmed Zakajew on Radio Moscow Echo.
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Dan, it is likely a somewhat recycled version of an earlier rumor from July.
Other possibility is that this may be a preemptive action on the Maskhadov's part, and Zakaev is spinning it for a political capital.
Confusion reigns over the identity of the group who seized the school in North Ossetia taking hostage more than 1,000 children and their parents and teachers. The Russian authorities are telling one story, and Chechen sources are telling another. It may take time for the truth to emerge. The Russian version says the hostage-takers were a multi-national group linked to the radical Chechen rebel commanders Shamil Basayev and Doku Umarov, funded by al-Qaeda.
That sounds about right...
The Chechen version, as put forward by the Chechen rebel envoy in Europe, Ahmed Zakayev, is that the attackers may have been Ossetians, Russians or Ingush - but not Chechens. The pro-rebel Kavkaz Center website suggests the leaders may have been Ossetian Islamists - from a home-grown militant group or Jama'at. Most Ossetians are Christian or pagan, but a minority are Muslim.
The two accounts are not in fact mutually exclusive. Either would explain the reported presence of Arabs among the attackers. Also two men Russian forces believe may have been among the ringleaders are Magomet Yevloyev, said by some sources to be an Ingush, and Vladimir Khodov, a resident of North Ossetia (they are thought to have used the codenames Magas and Abdulla). Both reportedly took part in the attacks on the Ingush interior ministry in June, under the leadership of Basayev and Umarov.
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Too bad the Zionists are so quick witted and the Muslims so dim. But that is what survival of the fittest is all about. Tood bad for UFO.
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The Russian authorities are telling one story, and Chechen sources are telling another. It may take time for the truth to emerge.
There are hundreds of surviors! Why should it take more than a day to figure out what happened? If this doesn't prove that reporters are incapable of unbiased reporting, I don't know what does.
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Hi Boris! How is Simi Valley today? Are there any Zionists under your bed, or are they in your closet? Certainly, they have hidden cameras in your child pornography, and will be distributing Boris-Srtich-wanks MPEGS soon! I have more evidence for this than you have for your allegations.
Remember, Boris, the Mossad loves subnormals like you--your "credibility" is VERY helpful to the Zionist cause. So just keep posting! And make sure that the Iranian Embassy has exactly the right spelling of your name--S-R-T-I-C-H--for the 1099s they have to file withn the IRS...they pay you about $5 per post, right? Thanks!
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UFO needs to spend more time beefing up the serf air defense system, the Jew Air Force kicked their ass and conquored the lovely provice of Kosovo. serfs are weak and can't handle the deadly Jew airforce. I will allow that they make purdy good pussy trolls tho.
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Oops, your response was deleted before I saw it. That must suck. If you hung around here more often you would realize that I love baiting intellectual cripples such as yourself.
"Your mother was a hamster and you father smelled of elderberries.... Go away or I will taut you a second time"
Posted by: Frank G ||
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Come on, Boris I can smell your rage all the way to the heartland. The dirty jooooos are responsible for all the failures and heartbreak in your life. It can't be you. You are the keeper of a great secret and a great burden. History will record your greatness.
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serfs are fun, but merely a sideshow. BTW serf, those KrugerRands have little Jew serial numbers on them, we have a list of yours, your non-Jew gold is worthless. Only Jew gold is allowed to circulate.
Posted by: I am the Conqueror Jew ||
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Consider this: As memories of 911 raise apprehension in the US, Zionists stage an incident in Russia to create a stigma of global magnitude that will spur the Americans on to continue their crusade against 'militant' Islam. This time the plan included children in order to raise the world's hatred of Moslems to a new level.
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Maybe the world-famous Mossad operatives in the region should be 'consulted' regarding the identitiy of the group that seized the school.
FYI Col Flagg, in the US aggression on Kosovo incited by Zionist lies, six US stealth fighters were shot down, five of which crashed in neighboring countries and one in Serbia where the local residents lynched the pilot and Serb forces shot down two resque helicopters killng 32 crew members. In Tuzla two Serb Mig 29 fighters destroyed an unditermined number of US planes on the ground killng an undetermined number of service crew and fighter pilots -- it is sad that my tax dollars are put to use by Zionists to commit crimes world-wide and get my fellow Americans killed in the process.
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Fred Pruitt lies, the post below was on topic and not abusive but was deleted -- here it is again.
Maybe the world-famous Mossad operatives in the region should be 'consulted' regarding the identitiy of the group that seized the school.
FYI Col Flagg, in the US aggression on Kosovo incited by Zionist lies, six US stealth fighters were shot down, five of which crashed in neighboring countries and one in Serbia where the local residents lynched the pilot and Serb forces shot down two resque helicopters killng 32 crew members. In Tuzla two Serb Mig 29 fighters destroyed an unditermined number of US planes on the ground killng an undetermined number of service crew and fighter pilots -- it is sad that my tax dollars are put to use by Zionists to commit crimes world-wide and get my fellow Americans killed in the process.
The Iraqi interim government Saturday renewed closure of offices of the Arabic-language satellite television network Al-Jazeera over incitement toviolence. The decision was taken as the Qatar-based channel did not submit explanations requested by the Iraqi government, the primeminister's office announced in a statement. The statement said during the temporary closure since Aug. 5,the Iraqi Government had expected the al-Jazeera management to offer an explanation to the presented allegations or to officially request a description of the possible threat that the channel maybe imposing. However, none of this has happened." "Additionally, al-Jazeera TV has not respected the decision taken by the ministerial national security committee and has continued to broadcast from within Iraq and interview individuals on Iraqi soil regardless of the temporary closure order," added it.
The government, therefore, decided to extend the ban on al-Jazeera from operating within Iraq until a time when its headquarters sends an official response of their policies and motives within Iraq, said the statement.
I don't see al-Jizz giving them an explanation, either.
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09/05/2004 12:15:58 AM ||
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A suicide attacker detonated explosives packed into a vehicle in front of a police academy in northern Iraq Saturday as scores of recruits were leaving the compound, killing at least 15 policemen and wounding 36 people, the U.S. military said. The blast at the police academy in Kirkuk capped a day of violence across Iraq. In Kirkuk, witnesses and police officials described a tableau of tragedy that has become hauntingly familiar to Iraqis: bodies blown apart, bloodied survivors seeking medial attention and a street littered with mangled cars and broken glass. Twenty-four of those injured were police. A senior police official in the city, Shirku Shakir Hakim, said the suicide bomber had been waiting in a car in front of the academy for a large number of people to leave. When a passerby asked what he was doing, the driver responded that he was there to pick up someone, Hakim said.
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Don't they learn? This must be the umpteenth time now. NO PARKING. CONCRETE BARRACADES. You write to them Capt America and tell them to F----- learn and how to do it. Please!!
Dave
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The death toll in the hostage crisis in the southern Russian town of Beslan rose to 358 yesterday as President Vladimir Putin called for a new approach to law enforcement in the country. Regional Emergency Situations Minister Boris Dzgoyev said 323 victims, including 156 children, had been killed in the violence. Russian Deputy Prosecutor Sergei Fridinsky said that all 35 attackers had been eliminated. Medical officials said 448 people, including 248 children had been hospitalized as a result of the crisis, which ended in a wave of violence Friday. Commandos stormed the school and battled militants as crying children, some naked and covered with blood, managed to flee through explosions and gunfire after 53 hours during which the hostage-takers herded them into the gym, denied them food and water and threatened to kill them by detonating explosives they had rigged up.
Most of the dead had been in the school's gymnasium, officials said. They were killed either by explosions that brought down the roof or by the fire and the battles between soldiers and captors that followed... Putin said international terrorists had declared "a full-scale war" against Russia, and that due to the collapse of the Soviet Union, the nation was weakened and unable to respond as effectively as it must. "In general, we need to admit that we did not show an understanding of the complexities and dangers of the processes occurring in our own country and in the world," he said. "In any case, we couldn't adequately react ... We showed weakness, and weak people are beaten."
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A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
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Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
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