Notice that Rooters prints neither the name nor the ethnicity of the "teenager" in question even though both are known.
Dutch authorities have arrested more suspects in a plot to attack key sites in the country, including Amsterdam's Schiphol airport, Justice Minister Piet Hein Donner says. Local media last week said that Dutch prosecutors believe they have uncovered preparations for the attacks this year on Schiphol -- one of Europe's busiest airports --, a nuclear power plant, the parliament building and the Defence Ministry in The Hague. It was not immediately clear who was behind the plot. But local media have said that the plot came to light after police searched the home of a teenager, now 18, who was arrested in June in connection with an armed robbery investigation and found evidence linking him to plans for an unspecified attack. Speaking on the television programme Buitenhof on Sunday, Donner declined to specify how many new arrests had been made or give any other details. But he said the Justice Ministry would give more information in coming days. Neither the Justice Ministry nor police prosecutors were immediately available to comment on the new arrests. The teenager's arrest was one of the reasons behind a national security alert in July.
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A Turkish terror suspect testified Monday that members of an alleged Turkish al-Qaida cell met with Osama bin Laden and other top leaders of the network in Afghanistan and hinted the group funneled $150,000 to fund suicide bombings in Istanbul. The nine suspects, among 69 on trial for the suicide truck bombings that killed 61 people, appeared in court Monday to testify for the first time.
The November 2003 bombings targeted two synagogues, the British Consulate and the local headquarters of the London-based HSBC bank. Prosecutors say those killed included British Consul-General Roger Short, and that more than 600 people were wounded.
In his testimony, defendant Adnan Ersoz acknowledged that he helped arrange a 2001 meeting between Abu Hafs al-Masri, a former top lieutenant of bin Laden, and Habib Akdas, the alleged leader of the Turkish cell. At the meeting, al-Masri agreed to give $8,900 to bring Turks to Afghanistan to wage a jihad, or holy war, Ersoz said. Al-Masri said al-Qaida was also interested in carrying out an attack on an Israeli ship making a call in Turkey or on the southern Turkish Incirlik air base that is used by U.S. jets, he said. Akdas said "he'd do research and find out" about a possible attack, according to the testimony. Ersoz said Akdas was interested in meeting bin Laden and that the two attended a talk by the al-Qaida leader a few days later. Later that year, Akdas approached Ersoz and said he wanted to attack Incirlik, the defendant said. "He talked to me about it and wanted me to help. He wanted $150,000 or $200,000 from al-Qaida," Ersoz said. "I didn't accept the proposal. ... I tried to talk him out of it." He said Akdas later told him that he had received $150,000 from "people" in Syria and Iran. Ersoz denied any direct involvement in the later attacks.
"Nope, nope, didn't have anything to do with it. Can I go now?"
Turkish prosecutors have said that bin Laden suggested targets for an attack in Turkey and his al-Qaida network later provided $150,000 to the Turkish Islamic militants. In their 128-page indictment, prosecutors are demanding life sentences for five suspects, including Ersoz, who they say played direct roles in the bombings. The other 64 could face 4 1/2 to 22 1/2 years in prison. Among other suspects appearing in court Monday were Yusuf Polat, who allegedly gave the final go-ahead for the synagogue attacks, and Fevzi Yitiz, who is alleged to have helped rig the truck bombs. Several alleged top ringleaders of the attacks remain at large.
On Friday, Turkish television stations broadcast a video believed to have been prepared by militants that claimed that Akdas was killed in a U.S. bombing raid in Iraq. Turkish authorities have said that Akdas is believed to have fled to Iraq and was reportedly involved in the kidnapping of several Turkish workers there in recent months. Al-Masri was reported killed in a U.S. airstrike in Afghanistan in 2001.
These guys have more lives than a cat.
The court began hearing the case in late May, but adjourned in July for the summer. The court is scheduled to hold hearings throughout the week.
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Two people were seriously injured yesterday in a clash between supporters of the areas major Muslim parties, the Democratic Action Party and the Sandzak Democratic Party in Novi Pazar. A doctor in the south-western Serbian town said that one of them was a woman who had suffered a gunshot wound to the neck and the other is to be transferred to a hospital in Belgrade because of gunshot wounds close to the spinal cord.
The shooting occurred late yesterday afternoon when a convoy of Democratic Action Party supporters returned from an election rally in Delimedje pulled up outside the premises of the Sandzak Democratic Party whose leader, Rasim Ljajic, was meeting with campaign staff. Eyewitnesses say that fire was opened from a number of vehicles in the convoy and stones were hurled at the windows of the party headquarters, injuring a number of activists. Brawling continued for more than half an hour until police arrived at the scene. Ljajic said later that he had been on the second floor of the building when he heard gunshots and glass breaking. "When I looked out of the window I saw a man in a green suit aiming a gun at one of our activists. A number of other party activists then ran out of the building and attempted to drive away while the attackers hurled rocks at them," he added.
There have been reports of rising tension in the mainly Muslim-populated Novi Pazar in recent days as the local government elections, due next Sunday, approach. Serbian President Boris Tadic today called for calm in Novi Pazar, urging all political parties and their leaders to cool their political passion. He also called on police to urgently identify those responsible. "Politics is not a reason to kill or hurt others. It should be a means of solving problems through dialogue. Elections should be an opportunity to show who is better, not a reason for escalating tension," said the president.
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must be the Mossad, right Bitch?
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FG, why are you calling 'TS(vice girl)' a bitch? Don't you ever have anything decent to say?
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heh heh - nice try, but it's aimed at Boris
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I should've made that clearer, because I have nothing but nice things to asay to Vice Girl
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Best way to deal with Boris is to ignore him, and let us editors prang his posts. Thx.
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Ten terror suspects - some accused of having ties with al-Qaeda operatives across Europe and others charged with plotting a bomb attack - go on trial on Monday. It's the second terror trial in the past year in Belgium, and al-Qaeda is again at the heart of the allegations. The key suspect, Tarek Maaroufi, was among the 18 militants convicted in last year's trial for involvement in a European terror ring that recruited fighters for al-Qaeda and Afghanistan's former Taliban rulers. All 10 suspects involved in the upcoming trial, most of whom are of Moroccan origin, have been charged with conspiracy, fraud and illegal possession of arms and face up to five years in prison.
Belgium approved tougher anti-terrorist legislation early this year, but the suspects in this case will be tried under the old legislation because their alleged crimes predate the new measure. The Tunisian-born Maaroufi, 38, and two of the other suspects are accused of being part of a network of terrorists who maintained contacts with al-Qaeda operatives in Italy, Spain and other European nations, said an official at the prosecution's office who asked not to be identified. Among those they allegedly had contact with were Abu Dahdah, the suspected leader of an al-Qaeda cell in Spain, and Essid Sami Ben Khemais, who was suspected of heading Osama bin Laden's European logistics operation and was convicted in Italy two years ago. The charges against them are mostly based on a detailed analysis of records of the suspects' telephone conversations over several years, the official said.
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Meanwhile, U.S. warplanes attacked a building Monday in Falluja where associates of al-Zarqawi were meeting, the U.S. military said. Ya keep stomping and eventually you kill the cockroach.
The strike followed clashes between U.S. forces and insurgents in the Sunni Muslim stronghold west of Baghdad. A coalition statement described the attack as "a successful precision strike on a confirmed Abu Musab al-Zarqawi terrorist meeting." Translated: An unspecified number of islamo-scumsacks got a free pass to see allan.
U.S. Air Force F-16s dropped a pair of 500-pound, satellite-guided bombs, military officials said. That will give you more than a headache.
"Intelligence sources reported the presence of several key [al-Zarqawi] operatives who have been responsible for numerous terrorist attacks against Iraqi civilians, Iraqi security forces and multinational forces," the center said. We can only hope.
Twenty people were killed and 38 others wounded in the airstrikes and gunbattles, said Saad al-Amili of the Iraqi Ministry of Health. Five women and four children were among the wounded, he said. Stay away from the terrorists and the burning US vehicles and you will not get hurt! How hard is that?
One of the strikes hit an ambulance, killing four people, according to a CNN journalist in Falluja. A hospital official said the four had been wounded shortly before the U.S. attack but did not say how. Since there are numerous instances of those brave islamic warriors hiding behind women and children, and using mosques and ambulences as military transports and armories, and hiding in burkas.... THE BOTTOM LINE: YOU HELP, HARBOR, AID, ABET, or HANG WITH THE MURDERING ISLAMO-TERRORISTS AND YOU DA** WELL GET WHAT YOU DESERVE.
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As our guys over there have said more than once about these clowns: You can run, but you'll only die tired.
:-p
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U.S. Air Force F-16s dropped a pair of 500-pound, satellite-guided bombs, military officials said
"Interior Remodeling courtesy of USAFâ¢. See our color brochure for more services available"
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"One of the strikes hit an ambulance, killing four people, according to a CNN journalist in Falluja. A hospital official said the four had been wounded shortly before the U.S. attack but did not say how." You would think that the CNN reporter might have asked to see the ambulance instead of meerly parroting the words fo the same hospital official that each day reports that only civilians aer bing hit by American attacks - but provides no proof... ever.
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probably the same firm that transports weapons and terrorists injuries in Gaza
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actually, terrorists are very much like cockroaches. And the way to completely get rid of cockroaches is to do the following:
1.Fill ALL holes that cockroaches use to get in from the outside. If you don't fill the holes, you will never get rid of the problem. If you can't fill all the holes, at least fill the ones they are already using. Bottom line: The more holes you fill, the fewer cockroaches you will be dealing with.
2. Use those little bait traps like Combat, where the cockroaches take the bait back to kill the entire nest. Kinda like satellite-guided bombs.
Follow these steps and you will have zero cockroaches. If you still have cockroaches - you didn't adequately complete both of these steps.
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http://iraqthemodel.blogspot.com/
What do Fallujans think?
âWe in Iraq accepted the sacrifices needed to remove Saddam, in Afghanistan we didnât see any real demonstrations protesting against the American Army for the accidental death of civilians when targeting Taliban fighters and the same applies for Iraq lately. Isnât it amazing that many people in the west and some Americans blame the American army and administration for the life losses and mess in Najaf, while Najafies are strongly blaming Sadr in their latest demonstration without a word to condemn the American army!? Arenât people, even seemingly simple people, smarter than what some media elite thinkers and reporters want us to believe!?
Itâs also worth mentioning that the news I heard from inside Fallujah confirm that the bombarded targets we hear about in the news every now and then did belong to Zarqawi followers and those targets were identified and chosen according to reports from the Fallujans most of the times.â
Thai army raided two Islamic schools in the country's southern Pattani province after reports of their possible link with terrorism in the region, local press reported here on Monday. The Pattani Task force on Sunday morning raided two Islamic schools in Pattani's Thung Yang Daeng district and launched searches of the premises. The army also took principals of the schools to a military camp in Nong Chik district for questioning, said the newspaper Bangkok Post. The raid and interrogation were ordered after the army discovered that the two schools had received a large donation from Saudi Arabia, and suspected part of the money was used to finance terrorism in the South, said a military source.
Islamic schools + Saudi money = terrorism, it's one of those universal laws.
However, the move outraged Islamic teachers in the deep South. Nideh Wabah, chairman of the Islamic schools association of the five southern provinces said the raid will provoke a rift between soldiers and the Muslim population, adding the army had offended local teachers.
"Yeah, don't they know who we are?"
Meanwhile, in Pattani's Yarang district, a retired government official was shot dead Sunday night while riding a motorcycle to an aerobics class. The attackers were two motorcyclists who fired four shots at him. On Saturday, a 55-year-old policeman was found dead at a roadside in the province. Sustaining three shots in the back and neck, the man was believed to be killed shortly before his body was found.
The Motor Cycles of Violence strike again.
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the raid will provoke a rift between soldiers and the Muslim population, adding the army had offended local teachers.
Seethe all ya want asshole. I'm betting on the side with the big guns. Nideh can expect a midnight visit
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It's all because of their support of Isreal and their Mideast policy...err...ah...oh Thailand. Never mind.
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An unidentified 10th victim of last week's deadly bomb blast in the Indonesian capital could be the suicide bomber, Australian police say. Australian Federal Police Commissioner Mick Keelty said seven men and two women -- all Indonesians -- were killed in the blast outside the Australian embassy in Jakarta. "There appears to be only one other body, which might indicate there was only one suicide bomber," Keelty told Australian radio on Monday. "But the difficulty with this sort of investigation is that we need DNA samples from the body parts to be graphic about it, so confirmation of that 10th person might not come for some time yet," he said.
On Monday, New Zealand asked its nationals to avoid all non-essential travel to Indonesia, saying further attacks could occur at any time. "The New Zealand Government reiterates that terrorist groups are active in Indonesia and that further bombings and other forms of attack against Western and Indonesian government interests could occur at any time," New Zealand's foreign ministry said. Australia has also warned of further attacks in Jakarta.
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An Iraqi group said on Monday it had abducted two Australians and two East Asians in the latest of a series of hostage-takings in Iraq, as Italy stepped up efforts to free two women aid workers. Australia, an important US ally, said it was "moving heaven and earth" to investigate the claim, which came in a statement issued in the name of the "Horror Brigades" of the Islamic Secret Army. The statement, handed out in the Sunni Muslim insurgent bastion of Samarra, gave Australia 24 hours to end its involvement in Iraq or the hostages would be executed. The statement in Iraq claiming the abduction of the Australians said they and the two East Asians "were working as security contractors for important people".
"We tell the infidels of Australia that they have 24 hours to leave Iraq or the two Australians will be killed without a second chance," it added. It called on Prime Minister John Howard to announce the pullout in person "if he is concerned about his two citizens". A spokesman for Foreign Minister Alexander Downer said the government had been in touch with its Baghdad embassy and other sources to check the claim.
Grisly footage of the execution of a Turkish hostage by Islamic militants in Iraq last month was posted on an Islamist website Monday. In the video, three masked kidnappers are shown slitting the throat of a blindfolded Durmus Kumdereli, one of three Turkish truck drivers seized by the Tawhid wal Jihad (Unification and Holy War) group of alleged Al-Qaeda operative Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi in August. A huge black banner bearing the feared militant group`s name provides the backdrop for the execution video, shot on August 17. Kumdereli was killed for supplying the US-led military in Iraq, the kidnappers said. His body was found north of Baghdad in early September along with those of his two missing colleagues. Zarqawi`s group had announced their murder shortly beforehand. A Turkish Foreign Ministry official in Ankara confirmed that Kumdereli had been missing in Iraq, but could not confirm his killing. "Mr Kumdereli was on our list of missing," said the official, who said that another driver that had been taken hostage with him had been released. Since Iraq insurgents launched a wave of kidnappings of foreign nationals in April, a number of Turkish truck drivers have been taken hostage. Most were later released, although a fourth truck driver -- Murat Yuce -- was shot dead by his kidnappers in July.
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Not funny, Nanook. Those Allenist a-holes are subhuman scum. My sympathies to the families of the truck drivers and we should all feel a pang at their loss.
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These truck drivers were just trying to make a living for their family.
If the Islamists took over Turkey, our commentator Murat might be one of the first to be hung, stabbed, beheaded or disembowled.
There are probably a lot of Moslems in Turkey who have broken thru the mind block of Islamic propaganda and are sincerely hoping the kufr wipe the population of Iraq clean. Others who haven't will blame America for the Islamist atrocities.
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so murat it seems turkey is not liked by america nor the terrorists....what a quaint situation turkey has gotten herself in...like it wasn't bad enough being bitch slapped by the EU....
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here is a chronological list of the ottoman empires exploits
http://www.stfrancis.edu/hi/kronoloji.htm
intresting dates:
1453 - Bosnia was captured by the Ottomans.
1489 - The Ottomans gained temporary control of Cyprus from the Venetians
1517 - The Ottomans captured Egypt and executed Mamluk leaders.
1529 - The Ottomans conquered Budapest and besieged Vienna for the first time
1554 - Ottomans conquered present day Armenia and Azerbaijan. This began the Ottoman-Russian stalemate over the Caucuses.
1830 - The Treaty of London granted Greeks freedom.
intresting that the ottmans were finally done in by the shite muslims who were against the european wannabees the ottomans, not sure if this has any relavance but i thought the link was interesting...
Maulana Salfi gunned down in Lahore
Unidentified gunmen on Sunday shot dead a mainstream leader of the Jamaat al-Dawaa, Maulana Hafiz Muhammad Ibrahim Salfi, after storming into his house in Township.
[Knock! Knock!]
"Yes?"
"Are youse Maulana Hafiz Muhammad Ibrahim Salfi?"
"Yeah. Whaddya want?"
[Bang! Bang! Bangety bang!]
Salfi had already survived at least four assassination attempts during the last few years and had been injured for a couple of times, police investigators and his group said.
"He was a real popular guy!"
After leading morning prayers at Jamia Masjid Al-Hadith Al-Quds, Maulana Salfi, 45, had just reached his home, when the doorbell rang.
[Ding dong!]
"Assassins calling!"
Salfi opened the door for the gunmen who dragged him inside the garage and shot him dead. The religious leader died on his way to a nearest hospital.
"[Gasp!] Rosebud!"
He received five bullets fired from a pistol, one in the head that proved fatal.
(No the one in the balls did) Yahya Mujahid, a spokesman for the Jamaat al-Dawaa, blamed the Indian government for Salfi's killing.
"I mean, who else could it o' been? Nobody in Pakland shoots guyz!"
The spokesman described the incident as terrorism, saying the group was active in held Kashmir and that was why India carried out the act. (that means they all are terrorists active in Kashmir I wonder what Musharraf is doing about it)
'Jamaat al-Dawaa' was formed after the government outlawed 'Laskhar-e-Taiba'.
It's the false nose and moustache version of Lashkar...
Agencies add: Mujahid said that Salfi was involved in preaching Islam and had "no political role" in the Dawa. "We do not believe it was a sectarian murder," he said.
"Yeah! He wuz just a simple holy man!"
A Dawa party official, Habibullah, said that the slain cleric was on the "hit list of terrorists", who wanted to kill religious leaders to create unrest in the country.
Another case of bringing coal to Newcastle...
Later, Maulana Salfi was laid to rest in the township graveyard after Maghrib prayers. Professor Hafiz Muhammad Saeed, Amir Jamaat al-Dawa led the Namaz-e-Janaza of Hafiz Salfi at the government high school township ground. Hundreds of people, including Ulema, his followers, students, leaders of various groups of Ahle-hadith, party workers, political leaders and people, belonging to various walks of life, attended the Namaz-e-Janaza. Addressing the mourners, Hafiz Saeed appealed them to remain peaceful. He demanded of the government to arrest the killers of Maulana Salfi without any further delay.
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Some of these guys like playing head games involving calling certain leaders part of the "political" wing (i.e. off-limits as targets for the opposition) and other leaders part of the "military" wing. They're taking a leaf out of the IRA playbook. Except like the IRA, there really aren't two wings - it's the same terrorist organization all the way through.
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very amusing commentry there, what i love the most about rantburg,if only all Main stream media had reports this fun to read. the Mullans from Maulana eh. :)
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AP, Many consider Citizen Kane the greatest move ever made. Please do not count me amongst them.
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"Rosebud" is reputed to be the name by which Citizen Kane (William Randolph Hearst) referred to Marian Davies'... ummm... clit...
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citizen kane is over-rated and flexiable flyers are built by zionists.
EFL
Jason Burke in Baghdad
Sunday September 12, 2004
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'There is no greater shame than to see your country occupied'
Early one morning this week, when the police have yet to set up too many checkpoints, Abu Mujahed will strap a mortar underneath a car, drive to a friend's in central Baghdad and bury the weapon in his garden. In the evening he will return with the rest of his group, sleep for a few hours and then take the weapon from its hiding place. He will calculate the range using the American military's own maps and satellite pictures - bought in a bazaar - and fire a few rounds at a military base or the US Embassy or at the Iraqi Prime Minister's office. Then Abu Mujahed will shower, change and, by 10am, be at his desk in one of the major ministries....
Over the next months... 'One day we try and snipe them, the next we use an IED [Improvised Explosive Device], the next a mine. We never get any orders from anybody. We are just told: "Today you should do something," but it is up to us to decide what and when.'
Black soldiers are a particular target. 'To have Negroes occupying us is a particular humiliation,' Abu Mujahed said, echoing the profound racism prevalent in much of the Middle East [so the terrorists are racists]. 'Sometimes we aborted a mission because there were no Negroes.'
In contrast to many militants, who have killed hundreds of Iraqis in the last year, Abu Mujahed said his group was careful not to kill locals. 'We are now planning to use bigger bombs in central Baghdad. But it is hard because there are so many civilians.' Support for the militants is far from universal. They are not attracting new recruits and finances are tight [cost of RPGs in particular is cited later], he admitted.
Later in the article his gives his neighborhood in Baghdad, his salary, his family size. It shouldn't be too hard to pick him up- if his actually exists
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To have Negroes occupying us is a particular humiliation
Helps explain the genocide in Sudan.
What blows me away is the degree to which arabs/muslims seem to believe they are somehow superior. As hard as I try, using the most generous of criteria, I cannot come up with a single piece of evidence that would support that belief. NOTHING they have done in the past TEN CENTURIES would/could/should lead anyone to believe that.
More than any other ethnic group they live in fantasy. They believe theirs is a vastly superior religion. They believe they can win a war with the west. They believe they will rid the middle east of Israel.
Saddam wasn't the great evildoer who was particularly loathesome. He was simply one of them -- who made it to the top.
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History repeats itself, but not in detail. Regarding the "negro" troops, proto-fascists circa 1920 Germany raised the same concerns. Witness Hitler's famous declaration concerning the occupation Senengalese troops: "They (the French)are treating us like niggers!"
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Commies had a tough time with race tooo..... witness the constant attacks on the attendees of Patrice Lumbama (SP?) U in Moscow during the peak of Soviet glory.
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"He will calculate the range using the American military's own maps and satellite pictures - bought in a bazaar - and fire a few rounds at a military base or the US Embassy or at the Iraqi Prime Minister's office. Then Abu Mujahed will shower, change and, by 10am, be at his desk in one of the major ministries."
No wonder these numbwads can't get anything done on their own. Don't like to work too much, it seems.
Mazen Al-Tomaizi, a Palestinian television journalist working for Saudi news channel Al-Ekhbariya and Arab satellite channel Al-Arabiya, sucked a Hellfire was killed yesterday by an American missile as he was reporting live from Baghdad on deadly clashes between US forces and insurgents. "He was killed at the scene of the American missile attack in Al-Haifa district while he was reporting the event," Mohammed Barayan, general manager of Al-Ekhbariya told Arab News.
Life's tough, ain't it? It's tougher when you're stoopid...
Barayan described Mazen, 28, as a very hardworking journalist who was fearless and dedicated. "We have sent a telegram conveying our condolences to his family in Palestine and we are arranging for transferring his body to Jordan for funeral," Barayan said. In the West Bank, residents of his home town Idna watched in horror as Mazen went down. He was killed when a US helicopter fired missiles on people who had gathered round a US tank that had been set ablaze in a car bomb attack.
Having a little car swarm, doing the Islamic boogaloo on the blown-out vehicle...
Most of the young Iraqi men and boys mingling around the burning wreckage of the US tank were unfazed by the clattering of an American helicopter gunship overhead.
"Yeah, infidels! You don't scare us none!"
Moments later they were under fire. Some had pointed to the Apache helicopter. Others jogged slowly from the burning Bradley fighting vehicle. None expected it would shoot at them. "I didn't imagine the helicopter would fire on the crowd," Reuters cameraman Seif Fouad said from his hospital bed, where he was recovering from two shrapnel wounds.
Not very imaginative, are you, Seif?
He had been recording the scene and was standing near Mazen. "I looked at the sky and saw a helicopter at very low altitude," Seif said. "Just moments later I saw a flash of light from the Apache. Then a strong explosion," he said. The first explosion sent Seif crashing to the ground. "Mazen's blood was on my camera and face," Seif said. Mazen screamed to Seif for help: "Seif, Seif! I'm going to die. I'm going to die."
"Mazen! Mazen! You're right! You're right!"...
A second blast hit some 15 seconds later, lodging shrapnel in Seif's leg and waist as he was trying to pull Mazen from harm's way. Seif's camera, its lens stained with blood, filmed the chaos. Reuters footage showed the crowd to be made up of unarmed boys and men, two of whom were standing on top of the Bradley.
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Might as well. Consider it OPSEC. Destroy the rest of the vehicles (M1s, Bradleys, etc.), and if someone gets in the way during their celebration, oh well.
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" . . . as he was reporting live from Baghdad on deadly clashes between US forces and insurgents."
Obviously, he knew the risks, and so does any other journalist over there. If they say otherwise, they're just trying to get a story published, or are trying for political brownie points from their readers or editors by featuring an "enemy"--in this case, US forces.
OTOH, if they actually believe they're immune from danger in a war zone, they really like pretending. Go figure.
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What's interesting about this guy's demise is that it rated such a tiny movement on the world's pity meter. Before 911 and Belsan, we would have been, SHOCKED! SHOCKED!
But now we just ponder about the wisdom of filming a car swarm in a war zone where an actual battle is going on. And we ponder the role of reporters who shill for the enemy. Are they combatants, or no?
Right now I'm feeling pity for the 911 victims, the Belsan people, Sudan, etc., etc., etc. Bottom line is that my pity meter so overworked, that I'm not feeling as much here as I once might have felt.
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Why doesn't anyone ask, over and over again, "What were the Arab channels doing, waiting at the scene of an ambush *before* it happened, so they could report on it, *live*?"
Ask the producer, "Is it the policy of your station to support and encourage violent acts of war, just so you can get good propaganda footage?"
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Well dont ever piss off the guy in the Apachie specially if your people have just attacked his buddies in the Bradley. You wannah celebrate on some one's dead body you deserve a Hell fire up your ass camera or no camera. ( Bo Hooo Hoo )
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"...as he was reporting live from Baghdad on deadly clashes between US forces and insurgents."
How the heck was he there so fast? Was it innocent boys throwing rocks at the Bradley? was it innoncent teenagers planting a jihad flag in the gun barrel?
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So much for the Holy Islamic Tradition of filmed car swarms, complete with body dragging and ululating.
No more Mr. nice guy, Islamosavages.
Either get civilised or get dead.
In the meantime I'll pray for you to get civilised, cause I'm loving that way.
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The beautiful thing about this is that we don't have to do it everytime to maximize payoff, just when necessary. Sorta like a pinball machine, irregular payoffs work best with primates and I assume allenists meet that standard.
Three Palestinians, including a terrorist leader, were reportedly killed when an IAF helicopter fired missiles at a car in the West Bank town of Jenin Monday. good shooting, boys!
The main target appeared to be Mahmoud Abu Halifa, a leader of the Al-Aksa Martyrs' Brigades, a group linked to Yasser Arafat's Fatah movement. He was killed along with two other people who were not immediately identified. table scraps
Palestinians said Abu Halifa was the deputy to Zakariya Zubeidi, local commander of the Al-Aksa group. The IDF had no immediate comment. too busy ululating
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ima find gentle and antiwar vershun here
Three senior Palestinian activists assassinated in West Bank
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An Israeli helicopter fired a missile Monday afternoon toward a car carrying at least three Palestinian activists,, Palestinian sources said.
In Zabul province, near the Pakistan border, a group of some 40 Taliban attacked an American patrol. Nearby gunships quickly came to area and, in cooperation with the U.S. troops on the ground, at least 22 of the Taliban were killed. The rest fled. Among the dead were three Arabs. Also captured was a GPS receiver, a video camera and some video tapes.
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September 9, 2004: ... The death toll among the Taliban is running at several dozen a week.
September 5, 2004: In the last 17 months, 35 American troops have died in Afghanistan, but 49 foreign aid workers have been killed
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"...three Arabs. Also captured was a GPS receiver, a video camera and some video tapes"
Ahh, the joys of being an embed journalist....for al-jizz.
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Interesting thing about these parasites is they are just that. Without the stuff they get from us they would be true pathetic.
Can you even begin to imagine the world if they were to come to power.
It would make the world of Mad Max seem like paradise.
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At least 15 people have been killed in a joint US-Iraqi attack on militant positions in the restive Iraqi city of Falluja, according to hospital sources. US artillery bombarded several districts, before circling warplanes opened fire, witnesses said. The US military said it had "accurately targeted" militants from a group linked to al-Qaeda, but there were reports that civilians were among the dead. It comes a day after 70 people were killed in fighting across Iraq.
"Intelligence sources reported the presence of several key [Abu Musab] Zarqawi operatives who have been responsible for numerous terrorist attacks against Iraqi civilians, Iraqi Security Forces and multinational forces," a US military statement said. It said, "Iraqi Security Forces and multinational forces effectively and accurately targeted these terrorists while protecting the lives of innocent civilians", without saying where the strike took place. An AFP reporter said he had seen 15 bodies laid out for burial. Falah Abdullah, an undertaker at the cemetery in Falluja, told AFP an ambulance driver and two nurses were among those killed when an ambulance was hit.
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You have to love al Beeb. They used to use quote marks around the word "terrorist". Now they're using quote marks around the word "militant". Soon, they'll be calling these guys social reformers, without the quote marks.
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mhw, do you really believe the enemy death numbers reported by the Dan Rather wannabe media? They're irrelevant. Our casualties are what count. When they go down, we've done better. When they go up, we need to do better.
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Mrs Davis,
Yes its true that 15 is somebody else's number. Of course some of the people we take out are either civilians loosely affiliated with the terrorists or part time terrorists. Some of the real terrorist bodies never make it to the morgue. I figure these two about cancel each other out.
Its also true that the American causalties are an important number and the fewer the better. However, we can't have a purely loss minimization strategy. Such a strategy leaves Fallujah in terrorist hands for a long, long time.
Maulana Muhammad Ibrahim Salfi, an Ahle Hadith cleric and the prayer leader of a mosque, was gunned down by unidentified assailants at the doorstep of his house in Township early on Sunday. He was the elder brother of Jamaatud Dawa leader Maulana Habibullah. Maulana Salfi, 55, was shot in his neck and head when he returned to his house in front of Jamia Masjid Alquds at 13-B-I Township after offering Fajr prayers. Aftab Ahmad Cheema, senior superintendent of police operations told Daily Times that the police was not sure that it was a sectarian killing. However, police sources said it was a target killing and evidence showed that it was a sectarian killing. Two assassination attempts were made against Maulana Salfi earlier.
If at first you don't succeed ...
The first information report said that nine assailants riding three motorcycles attacked Maulana Salfi while eyewitnesses said that they were four on two motorbikes.
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Sources said the area where Maulana Salfi lived was declared a high-tension one a few months ago. They said that there were several clashes between the people of two different sects for making speeches against each other's sects at the mosques in the area and police had to intervene and seal the two mosques. Maulana Sulfi's funeral prayers were offered at Government High School No-I in Township on after Maghrib prayers. Jamaatud Dawa ameer Hafiz Saeed led the funeral prayers.
"We do not believe it was a sectarian murder," [Jamaatud Dawa Information Secretary] Yahya Mujahid told AFP. Mujahid blamed India for Salfi's killing. "This is terrorism. Since we are working in Kashmir, it is India which has done this," Mujahid told AP. Maulana Salfi was involved in preaching Islam and had "no political role" in the party, his spokesman said. Formerly Jamaatud Dawa was Lashkar-e-Taiba which was banned by President Pervez Musharraf in a crackdown against extremist groups in 2002. Jamaat-e-Islami leaders condemned the Maulana Salfi's murder. In a statement, Qazi Hussain Ahmad, Liaqat Baloch, Farid Ahmad Piracha and Mian Maqsood Ahmed expressed their sorrow over the murder.
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Autophagia is a veddy veddy bad eating disorrrder. Veddy veddy bad.
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#4 Well the good thing is Another Wahabi Mulla Down.
Posted by: Fawad 2004-09-13 2:03:41 PM
My comments start here
"I want to ask mr fawad who the hell you think you are.Your name shows that you are a muslim.
but i dont know what type of a muslim (a man run his life on the rules of islam) are you?
Are you an american bull shit?
Please reply me:Why you commented this?"
The US military assault on Tal Afar, an ethnically Turkmen city in northern Iraq, has provoked a furious reaction from the Turkish government which is demanding the US call off the attack. American and Iraqi government forces last week sealed off Tal Afar, a city west of Mosul belonging to Iraq's embattled Turkmen minority. The US said it killed 67 insurgents while a Turkmen leader claims 60 civilians were killed and 100 wounded. The massive and indiscriminate use of US firepower in built-up areas, leading to heavy civilian casualties in cities like Tal Afar, Fallujah and Najaf, is coming under increasing criticism in Iraq. The US "came into Iraq like an elephant astride its war machine," said Ibrahim Jaafari, the influential Iraqi Vice President.
The Americans claim that Tal Afar is a hub for militants smuggling fighters and arms into Iraq from nearby Syria. Turkish officials make clear in private they believe that the Kurds, the main ally of the US in northern Iraq, have managed to get US troops involved on their side in the simmering ethnic conflict between Kurds and Turkmen. "The Iraqi government forces with the Americans are mainly Kurdish," complained one Turkmen source. A Turkish official simply referred to the Iraqi military units involved in the attack on Tal Afar as "peshmerga", the name traditionally given to Kurdish fighters.
The US army account of its aims in besieging Tal Afar is largely at odds with that given by Turkmen and may indicate that its officers are at sea in the complex ethnic mosaic of Iraq. The US says that in recent weeks the city was taken over by anti-American militants who repeatedly attacked US and Iraqi government forces. "Tal Afar is a tribal city and its people were not patient with the presence of American forces," said Farouq Abdullah Abdul Rahman, the president of the Iraqi Turkmen Front, in Baghdad yesterday. He agreed that there was friction with US forces but denied that anything justified the siege, with many Turkmen close to the front line fleeing into the countryside. "More than 60 people have been killed, including women and children, and 100 wounded."
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Turkey forfeted all rights to say anything when it refused US forces passage into Iraq via Turkey. Suck it up> The times of "tribal life" in Iraq are over. That is one of the things the terrorists depend on. Iraqis must be loyal to their nation, not their tribe or ethnic group. The is 2004 AD not 1077 AD .
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ROFLMAO!!! Watch all you like. Issues some more furious protests. Gnash your teeth. Wear sack-cloth and ashes. Howl at the fucking moon.
Who cares? No one. When you stab your allies in the back, you can expect to find yourself alone, eventually. And there you are. Life's hard. It's even harder when you're stupid. And duplicitous.
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Well, this makes it legal now for us to sent truck loads of weapons to the Turkmen insurgents, they have the right to defend themselves against the American genocide.
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I'd love nothing better than to permanently slam the door between the US and the bastard Turks. You earned it with your perfidy already, but the US seems loathe to completely write you off as assholes unworthy of our friendship, support, sweetheart trade agreements, support in your struggles to be "european" enough to join their club - the whole mess. You're not worth warm spit.
Your suggestion would do the trick. Please proceed.
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.com,
I'll be a pleasure to make scums a complete faillure in Iraq.
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Murat, I don't get it. One day you're proclaiing how incompetent the US is - quagmire, hiding, running away etc. The next the US is engaged in 'genocide' and you guys urgently need to arm Turkmen to prevent the all-conquering US armed forces from killing everybody. You know, you really can't have it both ways or people might sart to, um, disrespect your opinion...
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Yes Bulldog, against the unarmed civilian population the US army is all-conquering, there is nothing wrong to give a tiny percentage balance to the situation so that the Americans at least fight armed people.
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Armed people like the Republican Guard? Or are you just talking about terrorists; those brave men who hide amongst civilians?
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.com said "but the US seems loathe to completely write you off as assholes unworthy of our friendship"
Dear .com we Turks are already long time aware that America is not our friend, there are steadfast proves of America aiding the terrorist leader Osman Ocalan who has split off from the PKK (which is remarkably on the US terror list) founded the breakaway group PWD. The most remarkable thing is that the same US helped us to catch the chief terrorist Abdullah Ocalan (brother of Osman Ocalan) and is now using his little brother against us.
Strange eyh, announcing the whole world that you are "fighting terror" and the same time you help to form and aid a terror organisation. Well, the Indians would say "you white man, you talk with split tongue".
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Murat - since you've publically proclaimed on rantburg that you wish you could cap our president, I'm not sure why you have a problem with our actions.
PS Murat...be sure and say goodbye before you blow. I feel bad about Murat I. He was waxing poetic and I said mean things to him shortly before those bank bombings which occurred shortly before Bush visited your country. Haven't heard much from him since.
It's just that, you know, we get to know each other and it's important you say goodbye.
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Murat and the other anti American Turks have a psychic war inside their own head.
Their left brain tells them that Turkey absolutely will benefit from a stable democratic Iraq. It also tells them that Saddam was bad for Turkey. It also tells them that Islamists in Iraq are bad for Turkey. It also tells them that their interest is served by more oil production in the Kirkuk basin.
On the other hand their right brain is telling them. Americans- bad- emotional response needed.
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My my big surprise, smart Americans still exist (from the Guardian): Colin Powell described neo-conservatives in the Bush administration as 'fucking crazies' during the build-up to war in Iraq.
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I say let's kick Turkey out of NATO and let Israel hit it! What do you say?
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Murat: My my big surprise, smart Americans still exist (from the Guardian): Colin Powell described neo-conservatives in the Bush administration as 'fucking crazies' during the build-up to war in Iraq.
Murat, UFO is a Muslim. Nazis don't care about Zionists - they just wish Jews in the West would go to Israel (or anywhere else) and stay there. They would also prefer it if the Asiatic hordes, including Muslims, Arabs, Orientals, Turks, etc would leave the country. Any self-respecting Nazi would have UFO's Muslim butt deported (or worse).
As to al Guardian's quote of Powell, it's no real surprise - he's playing the good cop (he is, after all, in the State, not Defense, Department). Ever heard of the good cop, bad cop strategy? The good cop says his partner's nuts, and if he doesn't get any cooperation, all hell will break loose. But then again, Murat doesn't like to do any thinking - he like his propaganda neat from the fevered imaginations at al Guardian.
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I'm curious what your hometown is, Murat. Some Turkish village has obviously lost their idiot
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It's about time someone brought up a certain scene from LA Confidential...
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09/13/2004 10:08 Comments ||
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This story seems to be OBE, since according to another article, the US is occupying the city, and the killer thug gangs have disappeared into the woodwork.
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What it sounds like is that the Turks are backing their own terrorist faction, and are unhappy that their pet jihadis are getting blasted to pieces. Maybe they should send the Turkish Army into Iraq. How about it, Murat? Restore a piece of the Ottoman empire (Turkish rule over Northern Iraq)?
#32
To the American (made in China), would be nice to confront those babykillers with real soldiers.
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09/13/2004 10:20 Comments ||
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Atatürk must be spinning...
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09/13/2004 10:25 Comments ||
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would be nice to confront those babykillers with real soldiers.
Murat, our soldiers are confronting the Turk-supported babykillers.
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Can anyone tell me why we haven't committed ourselves to a preferred alliance with the Kurds-the one true and grateful ally we have in that region? Who has been with us from the beginning? I don't understand why we didn't push for the partitioning of Iraq-with Kurdistan being the one place which we could reasonably believe we were welcome in and could use as a base of operations in the future. Turkey would get pissed off about, but so what, they betrayed us. You betray, you pay. What's worth more, placating Turkey or nurturing the one sensible ally inside current-day Iraq?
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I thought they were bottom of the regional pile - Turks don't like 'em, neither do Sunnis, don't know if they're above below Shias in the food chain? Prob below. And those bloody Zoroastrians, I'm tellin ya'!
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Ooooooooooooo! The Turkish are mad at us! Ooooooooooooo! The Turkish! Oooooooooooo! Hide me! The Turkish are mad at us!
#44
Having spoken with members of some of the above in London and on holiday in Turkey it would appear the kurds are treated much the same as gypsies in Europe - nasty horrible people who would steal your mum if she wasn't tied down. Have met several kurds - cabbies in London - and they've been fine. I think we really would upset the regional applecart if we followed that line. Time for something new? Maybe. But I think we'd lose credibility amongst key regional powerbrokers. An independent Kurdistan may be a noble goal, and perhaps were better done sooner? We'd have to cope with rage of the Turks and Iraqi sunnis as a consequence.
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That they are not the other ethnic / asshat groups named is a FEATURE, not a bug. It is one hell of a recommendation. Their behavior, both under the No-Fly period and since the end of the Iraq War prove that they are infinitely more intelligent, organized, civilized, and rational than the others. What more could anyone ask of them? Lumping them in with the miscreants ignores reality.
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J187: If we were there in Kurdistan, would they need an outlet to the sea?
If we were there in Kurdistan, we would need an outlet to the sea. Military supplies don't materialize out of thin air, at least not until we figure out how to teleport things.
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One thing that strikes me is the lack of proportion involved in the use of the word massive to describe this attack. Its use in this article constitutes little more than purple prose, given that only 2000 soldiers were involved. When I think of a massive attack, visions of entire army groups, hundreds of thousands of troops and thousands of tanks drift into the picture. These guys are talking about a couple of thousand guys. What are these guys smoking?
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Here's more evidence of Gentile stupidity, and a perfect example of methods used by Zionists to accomplish their goals. Looks like the time has come once again to reshuffle alliances at the cost of American lives.
UFO's home page -- http://politicsandcurrentevents.com
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Here's more evidence of Gentile stupidity, and a perfect example of methods used by Zionists to accomplish their goals. Looks like the time has come once again to reshuffle alliances at the cost of American lives.
UFO's home page -- http://politicsandcurrentevents.com
THE Iraqi interim government last night claimed that 16 foreign terrorist leaders had been captured in a massive operation in Baghdad which came after a day of violence which claimed at least 25 lives. Security appeared to spiral out of control in the Iraqi capital, with at least 104 people also reported to be wounded in explosions and barrages across the city. Many of the dead were killed when a US helicopter fired on a disabled US Bradley fighting vehicle as Iraqis swarmed around it, cheering, throwing stones and waving the black and yellow sunburst banner of Iraq's most feared terror organisation.
But interim prime minister Ayad Allawi said that the Iraqi government remains determined to defeat terrorism and said he was confident that security problems would not hinder plans to hold elections early next year. Speaking at the end of a day touring Basra and nearby Umm Qasr, Mr Allawi said: "We are determined to dismantle any militias and people operating outside the law. We are adamant that we are going to defeat terrorism. We intend to confront them and bring them to justice."
Asked about the day's events in Baghdad, he said 16 "outlaws" had been arrested in a clearing operation around the Haifa Street area of the city, a notorious trouble hotspot. A government minister described the men as "leaders of foreign fighters." During the day Mr Allawi visited a polling station for local elections in the town of Umm Qasr, only the second such election to be held since the fall of Saddam Hussein's regime.
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In a series of tightly sequenced attacks, at least 25 Iraqis were killed by suicide car bombings and a barrage of missile and mortar fire in several neighborhoods across Baghdad on Sunday. The attacks were the most widespread in months, seeming to demonstrate the growing power of the insurgency and heightening the sense of uncertainty and chaos in the capital at a time when American forces have already ceded control to insurgents in a number of cities outside of Baghdad. The Associated Press reported that the total death toll throughout the country for the day reached 59, citing the Health Ministry and local authorities. Nearly 200 people were wounded, more than half of those in Baghdad.
Four suicide car bombings struck targets in Baghdad and Abu Ghraib, with two of them detonating nearly simultaneously and one hitting just outside the gates of the Abu Ghraib prison. In Baghdad, American military helicopters fired at Iraqis who were scaling a burning American armored vehicle. It was unclear how many Iraqis were killed in the airstrike: at least one television journalist was confirmed dead, and photographs immediately after the strike showed a group of four men severely wounded or dead at the site. American military commanders said the helicopters were returning fire aimed at them from the ground.
American forces appear to be facing a guerrilla insurgency that is more sophisticated and more widespread than ever before. Last month, attacks on American forces reached their highest level since the war began, an average of 87 per day. In a Sunday appearance on the NBC News program "Meet The Press," Secretary of State Colin L. Powell acknowledged that the United States faced a "difficult time" in Iraq but had a plan to "bring it under control" before nationwide elections scheduled for January. "It's not an impossible task," he said.
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There were no innocent people killed. Stupid? yes. Innocent? no.
Innocent people would not put themseleves, or their children in such a dangerous situation. Innocent people would hang their head in shame, behind closed doors. The guilty, the guilty by association, and the stupid learned a very hard lesson....PISS ON THE US AND YOU TAKE YOUR LIFE IN YOUR OWN HANDS.
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Yup, stay away from burning American armour in future. The process of natural selection continues apace in Iraq.
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Shame, in Arabia, is simply embarrassment - it carries no connotation of being instructive, no requisite self-examination. It's not the same thing as what we know as shame. No Arab will hang its head in shame - it will seethe and seek revenge for being embarrassed. There's only one way to deal with them: hard with a steel fist. The lesson for those who survive the clash must be fear. Kill it if you can. Make it fear your very glance, if you let it live. Sooner or later we will "get it".
It WILL learn that a hot stove burns, so you can condition these creatures to give up the end-zone dance - just make the penalty STEEP. And never let up. My $0.02.
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Al Arabiya showed compelling images that followed the journalist, Mazen al-Tumeizi, as he stumbled away from the scene of the airstrikes, yelling, "Iâm dying, Iâm dying!" More than 20 journalists have been killed here since the beginning of the American invasion.
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Al Arabiya showed compelling images that followed the journalist, Mazen al-Tumeizi, as he stumbled away from the scene of the airstrikes, yelling, "Iâm dying, Iâm dying!"
Shouldn't the guy have said, "Virgins, here I come?" Whatever happened to loving death as Americans love life?
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I don't know anything about this particular reporter -so I'm not talking about him directly. But I do think it's time that we start considering some specific reporters as ememy combatants. The pen isn't really more mighty when it actually comes up against a sword.
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NYT, eh? It figures. The sky is falling, the sky is falling,...!
Thirteen people including five soldiers were killed in fierce clashes between the security forces and militants Sunday in Pakistan's South Waziristan tribal area bordering Afghanistan, English-language newspaper Dawn reported Monday. Military spokesman Major General Shaukat Sultan Sunday told a private TV channel that the security forces had suffered casualties, but he declined to provide details, saying the fighting was still continuing. The paper quoted an official as saying in Wana, headquarters of South Waziristan, that seven militants had been killed in the clashes but the number of the wounded could not be ascertained. Unofficial reports said the death toll on both sides during thefour-day clashes had reached 100.
Pakistani Air Force jets and helicopter gunships were seen pounding the bases of militants in the Karwan Mayanz area in SouthWaziristan, while the security forces were operating in the nearbyMakin Bazaar area. Fighting between the two sides broke out on Saturday night after tribal elders rejected a request by the local authorities toprovide the security forces a safe passage to North Waziristan through an area dominated by the Mahsud tribe.
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I am looking for the worlds smallest fiddle to play a song of morning for your dead jihadi asses.
A voice recording, said to be that of suspected al-Qaeda commander Abu Mussab al-Zarqawi, released to mark the third anniversary of the September 11 attacks in the United States, said Iraq's US-backed premier was the militant network's number one target. "The traitor (Iyad) Allawi is our main target," said the audiotape, posted on the Islamist website (http://zarqawi911.notlong.com) in the name of Zarqawi's Tawhid wal Jihad (Unity and Holy War) group. "Await the Angel of Death." As in previous death threats against the hawkish Iraqi premier, the voice mocked Allawi's past links with the US intelligence services. "You may have the support of the Christians, but we have on our side (the true) God who knows how to make good his theats."
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And Allawi says Zarqawi is a top target. My money is on Zarqawi going first.
The U.S. military launched a major pre-dawn assault Sunday to wrest the northern city of Tall Afar from insurgents but encountered almost no resistance, leaving uncertain the whereabouts of fighters who have battled U.S.-led forces for months. About 2,000 men -- two battalions from the 3rd Brigade, 2nd Infantry Division, and a battalion from the Iraqi National Guard -- pushed into Tall Afar at 3:15 a.m. to confront what U.S. military officials had expected would be about 200 insurgents who had taken over the local government. Instead, the U.S. forces, backed by F-16 fighter jets, encountered only brief fire from small arms, U.S. military officials said. An expected counterattack at dawn, when U.S.-led troops would no longer have the advantage of night-vision equipment, also did not materialize. "We thought there would be more, the indications were that there would be more, but there wasn't," said Brig. Gen. Carter Ham, the commander of U.S. forces involved in the operation. "There's some good news in there, and there's probably some bad news."
Ham said U.S. commanders concluded that some of the insurgents had probably fled in anticipation of the attack. Others, he said, probably gave up after being pounded by three U.S. airstrikes after the operation began on Thursday. It continued into Friday morning before a pause in the fighting. "And then, thirdly, there is some indication that perhaps we killed more than we think we did [in] the first couple of operations," Ham said in an interview at Camp Freedom, a U.S. military base set up in a palace that once belonged to Saddam Hussein's sons, Uday and Qusay.
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Article: Officials with Task Force Olympia, which includes the 2nd Infantry Division, have estimated that 67 insurgents were killed in the initial operation to retake Tall Afar. Radie Alkhalil, the health minister for Nineveh province, which includes Tall Afar, said the director of the city's hospital told him that 42 Iraqis had been killed since Thursday, including one who died Sunday. Alkhalil said he did not know how many were civilians.
What the WaPo reporter leaves out is several things. One, US counts of enemy casualties have been pretty accurate in the past, verified by enemy tallies after the end of the conflict. Two, enemy dead and wounded do not show up in morgues and hospitals, because it helps GI's figure out who the bad guys are, which helps lead to other bad guys.
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