1) you must include a working link in the source line. I'm deleting posts that don't have this -- I don't have the time to look for the original.
2) your comments should be highlighted and preferably on a separate line. If you want to snark in the middle of a paragraph, use the strike function, not hilite. Or break the paragaph.
3) we don't need the original publication date, correspondent's name, and other header stuff in the body of your post. Just takes up bandwidth and load time.
T'anks!
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Re: item 3, I dissent. Hover only tells you source - this info saves time opening stories by shit-brained moonbat reporters or stale stories, IMHO. 2 short lines of text is a BW problem? Really? You're getting mighty persnickety! And crotchety, too! Making excuses for the lazy posters - sniff - okay, who bought you off, huh? Prolly that Dan guy or that Mike S guy, I betcha! Sheeshy sort of sigh. Did I mention crotchety? Gotta stay out of those crotch thingys, y'know. They'll make you do and say crazy things! Such as item 3... or worse!
*Steady Steely Unblinking Unwavering Uncowed and Unbowed GAZE*
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I'm with .com if the author's name, date etc. add something necessary to the appreciation of the article. If it's a Rob't Fisk POS, you can only appreciate it given that note, otherwise it's just another hackneyed bit of tripe by another Islamo-loving anti-western idiot. Dating the article - showing it was written before the event (a la Louis Lapham's coverage of the Rep Convention) can also add that shiv in the back of the authors' credibility. IMHO only
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Frank G: "IMHO only"
"H"? C'mon, Frank, don't put yourself down like that. ;-p
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ok IMNSHO only :-)
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Steve, I do sort of agree with them. Source and date of publication save clicking time, and author's name can be important (depending on who it is).
I'll confess that I often don't go to the link, depending on who did the posting, what they said, and whether I have the time (or inclination) to "read the rest."
But it's NOT my blog, so that's just one opinion. [And a not very humble one at that. :-p] Y'all do the heavy lifting, so we should defer to your desires.
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I think in most cases the date and time aren't important, nor is the byline. The exceptions are antique articles or those written before the event occurred -- they let you know you're reading either history or bullship, depending. The byline exceptions are Fisk, Steyn, O'Rourke, VDH and others we look for, or Arab names reporting for Rooters, AP or AFP. Add them only to draw attention to them, otherwise they're readily available at the link. I think these are common sense exceptions.
100 percent agree on the links. I hate dumping articles, but we've had quite a few lately without sources, and unless I give up sleeping I don't have enough available hours to go chasing them, even for good articles. The other eds don't, either, and even if they did, the time could be better spent posting or snarking.
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Fred's, of course, is the final word on the subject. Though I'm sure that won't stop other words (including mine). :-p
Fred, I think we've discussed this before, and maybe it's already there and I missed seeing it, but could we have a link at the top (near the "post your own article" link) to a page giving basic posting instructions such as these?
No need to thank me - always happy to create more work for you and the other eds. ;-p
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LOL - agree on the links, of course, and as always, common sense is welcome. Suggested troll cleanup: perhaps a script that detects Boris's POS web page link could filter him out automatically? I notice his IP keeps changing
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Lol! Oops - I think I was just bitch-slapped! Okay, I'll be good, I promise!
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I'm with Fred 'n' Steve White. We should try to cut posts down to the essentials anyway. Adding less than relevant information as standard defeats that object and makes reading Rantburg that little bit less time-saving. If it's a dodgy source or author, or old, then maybe it's worth noting. But personally I don't want to see the source's origin, date, time, location, author's middle name, local weather, etc. every time... It also make the posting process longer for the poster. There's also a formatting issue. People adding their own fancy leader in their own style makes Rantburg look scruffy. ;)
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But I don't hafta to take shit from you, BD! Scruffy, indeed! Ya didn't hafta go arse over elbow on it. Wotta load o' codswallop! Yer just in a nark, playing up to the boss trying to be the mutt's nuts! Sixes and sevens, indeed! Such a wind up!
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Aw - I was trying out a Brit slang dictionary - did I screw it up? Shit. Sorry, bro! I thought I was having ya on. Okay, I'll stick to what I know, henceforth.
"Conversation should be pleasant without scurrility, witty without affectation, free without indecency, learned without conceitedness, novel without falsehood."
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.com, no bad attempt! But a little bit off the mark in places. 'Arse over elbow' whould more commonly be 'arse over tit'. 'In a nark' is OK, but not slang flavour of the month, if you know what I mean. 'Mutt's nuts' is a new one on me, I must admit; 'Dog's b*llocks' is the more familiar equivalent. 'Sixes and sevens'? Quaint. 'Wind up' and 'codswallop' are both good though. What's your source? I can have a look if you like and see if someone's leading you up the garden path. Meanwhile, I recommend Roger's Profanisaurus for all your less polite Brit slang. For example (this is a new one to me):
"aris n. Convoluted cockney rhyming slang for arse. From Aristotle - bottle - bottle and 'glarse' - arse."
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BD - Well, don't blame these guys for my screwups! I whacked it out in about 7-8 minutes so it's not like I went deep, lol! The lameness is mine!
Thanks for the link - I definitely like yours better: air biscuit -- that's simply awesome!
As for the def you proferred, lol, it works for me. To be honest - I don't read those threads, anymore. They are dead the moment they are "claimed" for that day's stage / soapbox.
Thanks for the link - I'll study longer before I attempt my next reposte!
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.com: Try this for an insightful guide into the latest Brit slang The Profanisaurus
BTW... 'The Mutt's Nuts' is fine and in common parlance in my part of the world.
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.com, big guy, I hear ya, I was getting all grumpy 'cause once again I was going through the holding tank at 11:59 PM EDT trying to figure out what was there, what had already been posted, where's the fricking link to this one, and good golly miss molly what's with the 15 lines of non-essential stuff in that one?
So my bad if anyone was offended. Fred's the boss and I'll always do it his way.
Bulldog: thanks for the Roger's Profanisaurus tip. That will keep me busy (not to mention better, um, educated) for quite a while!
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God, Bulldog, missed your post - apologies. Will stop flying around and messing up posts... back to work! BTW - I touched the otter's nose last night
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Dr Steve - No - I was laughing while I typed it. Though I do like have that info in my visual scan, no sweat. Hell, I'll stand on my head while typing - if that's what it takes!
And let me toss in how much I appreciate you Editors - and you in particular. Seems you pull the nasty shift, when there's still a buncha us late-night loonies wanting to stuff the next day's ballot-box! I dearly appreciate your efforts - you've fixed stuff and turned loose netted posts - and who knows what else!
T H A N X !!!
Abu Hamza Al-Masri, who is wanted in the United States on terrorism charges, could be charged in Britain within weeks, a government lawyer said yesterday. Al-Masri, 47, who has been held since May on a US warrant, appeared by video link from Belmarsh Prison in southeast London at an extradition hearing at Bow Street Magistrates Court. Treasury Counsel Hugo Keith, appearing for the US authorities, said London's Metropolitan Police had completed their investigation of Al-Masri and reported to the Crown Prosecution Service, which will decide whether to charge him under the Terrorism Act. "It's my understanding that a decision is likely to be made around about the end of the first week in October," Keith said. The Crown Prosecution Service said it hoped to make a decision before the extradition hearing scheduled for Oct. 19.
British police questioned Al-Masri last month on suspicion of terrorism offenses in Britain. Officers later said he was no longer being questioned about possible offenses in this country, but Keith said the British investigation was continuing. The US authorities have 11 charges against Al-Masri relating to terrorism, including allegedly trying to establish a terrorist training camp in Bly, Ore., between October 1999 and early 2000, involvement in hostage-taking in Yemen and funding terrorism training in Afghanistan. But if Al-Masri is charged in Britain, those proceedings would take precedence over the proposed extradition to the United States. Lawyer Paul Hynes, acting for Al-Masri, said: "All we have been told is that the file has been sent to the CPS. We do not know a date when any decision will be made."
Before yesterday's 20-minute hearing, Al-Masri could be seen by video link having an animated discussion with a prison guard and waving his arms. Keith said that if Al-Masri was not charged under British law, a five-day extradition hearing would start Oct. 19. A series of experts would be called to give evidence, including on religious and political issues, he said. Before that, a hearing will be held at Bow Street, with Al-Masri appearing again by video link, on Oct. 13. Judge Timothy Workman ordered Al-Masri to remain in custody until that hearing.
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Before yesterday’s 20-minute hearing, Al-Masri could be seen by video link having an animated discussion with a prison guard and waving his stumps arms.
Probably demanding that he be given piano lessons or something.
Britain said yesterday that Al-Qaeda had targeted Parliament and called for an urgent security shake-up after two embarrassing breaches in 24 hours. "The security services briefed me some time ago about intelligence they had about Al-Qaeda operatives in Britain focusing on Parliament," said the government's leader in the House of Commons, Peter Hain. Hain declined to give details of the intelligence information but added: "I was very determined to act upon it."
Intelligence-driven fears that extremists could wreak havoc in the "mother of parliaments" have underlined the urgency of setting up a 21st-century security operation. Many believe it is time to turn to professionals after centuries of Parliament being policed by "men in tights" — the Sergeant-at-Arms and his ceremonial ushers in traditional dress, with swords at their side. Fox hunting supporters who stormed the debating chamber revealed that they breezed into Parliament on Wednesday without challenge, and the next day an undercover reporter managed to smuggle fake bomb-making equipment into Parliament. "This is the age of the suicide terrorist," said Hain. "What I want is a new professional director of security who has responsibility and authority right across Parliament." Hain even congratulated The Sun tabloid for the stunt by a reporter who got a job as a waiter with bogus references and showed what a farce security had become at a time when Britain is a prime terror target due to its pro-US foreign policy. "What if — as The Sun has exposed — that had been a suicide terrorist? That is the horrifying reality we now face," Hain told BBC Radio.
Eight hunting protesters made a laughing stock of security with their stunt on Wednesday. One revealed the plan had been "put together, literally on the back of an envelope, 24 hours before." "We all gave ourselves a one-in-a-thousand chance of getting there and we got there like odds-on certainties. It was risible," David Redvers said. Denying they had been helped by an insider, he added: "It was frighteningly simple."
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Police stopped a man driving a car wired with land mines and explosives in downtown Moscow early Saturday, Russian security officials said. The man, detained by Moscow police around 1 a.m., told police he had been paid $1,000 to park two cars with explosives in them along a Moscow street frequently used by top government officials, said the duty officer at the Federal Security Service.
"Yeah! It wudn't me! Somebody gimme money to do it!"
The officer said the man later suffered a heart attack and died while in police custody, but he refused to elaborate.
We can guess, though. And my sympathy meter still isn't working.
Another failed cardioversion?
Police later located a second car in a residential neighborhood in central Moscow and used a water cannon to open it. No explosives were found but residents of nearby buildings were evacuated as a precaution, said the officer, who refused to give his name. After the man in the first car was stopped, police questioned him and found two land mines and seven ounces of TNT in the car. The mines were connected with wires and had an antenna attached to them.
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Homemade reactive armor for those close moments on Ivan-95.
Xinjiang, a strategically important area bordering Central Asia, is home to a number of ethnic groups, of which the Uighurs, Muslim speakers of a Turkic language, form the largest. However, the statement said the new "government-in-exile" represented not just Uighurs, but also other minorities such as the Kazakh and Kyrgyz groups who inhabit the area. "As the name 'Eastern Turkestan' implies, this vast region has for centuries been the land of the Eastern Turks, who are Muslim by faith, Caucasian by race, and whose native language is not remotely related to Chinese," it said. The state-controlled China News Service said in a report that the establishment of the "government-in-exile" was announced at a recent press conference in Washington. The news service quoted unnamed analysts as saying the East Turkestan issue was likely to become an irritant in Sino-US relations in the future.
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--"They are now conducting their work in agreement with the Islamic Army and it was agreed (that) they work for the army to cover battles and attacks...for a limited period which has not been announced," the message was quoted as saying.--
Untill the ice lasts. Then it will be announced that they were accidentally killed in a battle.
I bet my 2 donuts.
The Indonesian military said separatist rebels had killed seven civilians in the war-torn province of Aceh, according to a report Saturday. The bodies of the seven men, aged 22 to 50 years, were found in a riverside in Aceh Singkil district on Thursday, local military chief Jamhur Ismail was quoted by the Serambi newspaper as saying. Ismail said the dead -- all of whom were fishermen -- had been abducted by the Free Aceh Movement (GAM) rebels before they were "brutally murdered" with their throats slit and heads slashed by machetes. Elsewhere in the region on Friday, police shot dead a 26-year old man for trying to throw a grenade into a group of policemen conducting a search operation in Aceh Besar district.
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Indonesian police say they have formally arrested four individuals suspected of involvement in last week's bomb attack at the Australian embassy in Jakarta. However, they say the alleged masterminds of the attack are still at large. Indonesian Police Chief Dai' Bachtiar says the four suspects will be tried under recently enacted anti-terrorism legislation. He told reporters Saturday that authorities were still looking for the alleged masterminds of the attack, Azahari bin Husin and Noordin Mohamed Top. The two are believed to be leaders of the Jemaah Islamiyah group, which has been linked to the al-Qaeda terrorist network. Last Thursday's attack at the front gate of the Australian embassy in central Jakarta's Kuningan District killed nine people and wounded more than 170. General Bachtiar said one of those detained is suspected of direct involvement in the attack, while three others are viewed as accessories.
"Before the Kuningan bombing, we detained quite a few people and to our own surprise we found that three of the people are related to the Kunigan bombing and they will be charged with hiding Dr. Azahari," he said. Officials issued a drawing of a man who is believed to have bought the truck that was used in the bombing. General Bachtiar said several other people have been detained for questioning but are not officially charged. It was the third major terrorist attack in Indonesia in less than two years. The first, on the island of Bali in 2002, killed 202 people and the second, last year at Jakarta's Marriott Hotel, killed 12. The attacks have been blamed on Jemaah Islamiyah, which seeks to establish an Islamic state in the region.
The alleged spiritual leader of JI, Abu Baker Bashir Saturday reportedly condemned the latest attack and offered condolences to the victims. Speaking through a lawyer, Bashir also accused Indonesian authorities of trying to frame him for the attacks and denied that he had any connection to them. "Hey, just because I advocate violent jihad doesn't mean I had anything to do with these murderous bombings. I'm just an ordinary spiritual leader of a little backwater madrassah."
Bashir was arrested several weeks after the Bali bombing but officials said there was insufficient evidence to try him under laws that existed at that time. However, he served subsequently a 15-month prison sentence for unrelated immigration violations. He was re-arrested recently as he completed that sentence. Officials say he will be tried under new anti-terrorism laws passed after the Bali bombing.
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INDONESIAN police have captured a man they say has confessed to transporting the explosives used in the Australian embassy attack in Jakarta. But police chief General Da'i Bachtiar has also warned of more possible attacks, saying senior Jemaah Islamiah terrorists still on the run may have already built more bombs.Officers had also arrested a young man who had been readying himself for a suicide bombing, Gen Da'i said. In what could be a major breakthrough, a man had confessed to being a courier for the alleged terror masterminds Azahari Husin and Noordin Mohammed Top, he said last night. Although he did not directly take part in the September 9 bombing, he was involved in the preparation of the bomb, the police chief said. "He knew that what he carried was explosives," Gen Da'i said. The man had admitted carrying packages of explosives for Azahari and had been involved in the preparation of the car bomb - a role which could lead to the death penalty in Indonesia, he said.
Gen Da'i acknowledged the terror group might have other bombs other than the one detonated outside the embassy. "They could have made two or three, it is still possible," he said when asked if Indonesia still faced the threat of more attacks. Gen Da'i said the arrest of the suspect explosives courier could provide police with crucial leads. "At least there is someone related to explosive preparation," he said. "But the man we want most is the man who knew about making the bomb, the clear target. Just wait. Our officers are on the move." The latest suspect was captured close to Jakarta during a series of raids across Java which netted 11 people, most of them in the island's eastern Muslim heartland. Five were taken into custody during a suspected terrorist induction ceremony near the port city of Surabaya. Three others were arrested in Madiun and another two in Magetan.
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A statement from a militant group in Iraq says two kidnapped French journalists have agreed to cover the "activities of the resistance", according to an official from the London-based Islamic Observatory. Christian Chesnot and Georges Malbrunot were seized along with their Syrian driver, Mohammed al-Jundi, on August 20. The Islamic Army in Iraq claimed responsibility for the kidnappings south of Baghdad. Yasser Sirri, head of the Islamic Observatory, today said he had received an email purportedly from the Islamic Army saying it had "ended the detention of the two French hostages ... who are now carrying out their work under an agreement" with the group. "The two journalists accepted, willingly and without being pressured, to cover the battles and attacks (by the resistance) and to film them for the Islamic Army for a set period," it said. The statement - read out on the telephone by Mr Sirri, whose organisation defends Muslim causes around the world - said the period would only be disclosed after their reports "on the reality of the heroic Iraqi resistance".
U.S. forces in Iraq are going to face an explosion in the northern city of Mosul, Canadian military journalist Scott Taylor said Thursday. "The Americans have no idea what kind of an anthill they're sitting on" he told CBC Newsworld.
"That's because they're stoopid, of course."
Taylor based his conclusions on observations he made after being kidnapped in Iraq on Sept. 7 and released five days later, near Mosul in northern Iraq.
Brilliant move on his part, wasn't it?
He said he was put in a taxi to Turkey. He said he was handed from group to group that shared hostages and weapons, including one he called the Taliban, the militants who controlled Afghanistan until the U.S. drove them out. He said the groups operated "with the full co-operation of the police." Taylor was seized with a Turkish journalist and a UN driver. While being held, he said there were at least six occasions when he was threatened with beheading. One of the groups that held him said it had killed 37 hostages and freed 10...
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Article: He said the groups operated 'with the full co-operation of the police'.
This could mean the groups operated with the full-cooperation of people who wore police uniforms. Note that Palestinians have been known to wear Israeli army uniforms. Anybody can get a uniform. The question is whether a Canadian journalist can tell the difference between an Iraqi policeman and an Iraqi wearing police uniform.
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If American journalists can't tell the difference between a letter generated on Microsoft Word and a typewritten letter from the 1970's, I doubt a Canadian journalist can tell the difference between genuine Iraqi policemen and Iraqi terrorists wearing uniforms that were either stolen or purchased.
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ZF - I'm reading "Last Citadel" about the battle of Kursk - 1 Million on each side. Can you imagine how today's press would've covered that?
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In general, journalists are a bunch of lazy and incompetent bozos, and they project their own laziness and incompetence onto the US military personnel they encounter. Reporters are a bunch of Michael Moore's without film-making talent.
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crazyhorse: A five day assessment under threat of being beheaded,six times.Anthill,huh ?
Anthill is his way of saying quagmire - there are so many of them you can't kill them all. It's like someone saying that a place is overrun with muggers after he gets mugged.
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BTW - The Last Citadel - in paperback now - I recommend it
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FG: BTW - The Last Citadel - in paperback now - I recommend it
Thanks. I'll look into it. If you can find it - check out Stalingrad by Antony Beevor. He's crap as a military analyst, but provides a nice primer on the kinds of difficulties that besieger and besieged went through in that charnel house of a battle.
LAGOS: An oil pipeline exploded near Nigeria's largest city as thieves tried to siphon oil from it, with up to 50 people perishing in the flames, police said on Friday. "People were stealing fuel from the pipeline when it caught fire and exploded," police spokesman Emmanuel Ighodalo said of the blast Thursday in Amore, a village across a wide lagoon from Lagos, a city of 13 million people.
"Is it coming out?"
"I dunno. I can't see. Gimme a match!"
At least 30 charred bodies of victims have been recovered and more still littered the swamps and waterways surrounding the site of the explosion, making it likely the death toll could reach 50, said Ighodalo.
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Stealing gasoline is the first thing I thought when I saw the headline.
Some people are so predictable....
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Never, ever use a welding torch to cut into a natural gas pipeline!
Intelligence agencies and city police arrested Hakim Habibur Rehman Jigranvi, father of Hizbul Tehrir activist Saad Jigranvi, on Friday afternoon. Sources told Daily Times that Hakim Jigranvi was arrested on the information provided by Yasir Jigranvi, who was arrested on September 15. Hakim has been shifted to an unknown location for interrogation.
"Mahmoud! This is a bludgeon! I specifically asked for a truncheon!"
"They're using all the truncheons down the hall on the Guantanamo returnees, sahib!"
Activists of Hizbul Tehrir, a banned ooutfit, are wanted by the police for spreading anti-state propaganda. Earlier, police arrested two Hizbul Tahrir activists Abdul Waheed and Bilal Saleem for publishing anti-state pamphlets using two printing presses in Badamibagh. Acting on their information, police arrested Hakeem Ihsan Jigranvi's younger brother Hakeem Yasir Rehman Jigranvi from Gulberg on Wednesday. Another team raided Saad Jigranvi's residence but the house was empty. Yasir Jigranvi's wife Naila Yasir requested a district court session judge to issue production orders for her husband but a bailiff was unable to find him. A man testified that the police was trying to destroy evidence of Yasir's illegal detention and torture. He said Yasir had been shifted several times and was last seen at Chung Investigation Cell.
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I hope the authorities make sure to get some DNA samples so that Saad's remains fragments can be properly identified once they find him.
Indian soldiers shot and killed 15 Muslim rebels in separate gunbattles across Kashmir on Saturday, police and border security officials said. They said this was the highest number of rebels killed in a single day in the past few months as troops stepped up their offensive against armed separatists fighting New Delhi's rule over the disputed Himalayan region. "It's been a bloody day," said an Indian Border Security Force officer who did not want to be named. Five militants were killed in forests near the Pakistani border south of Srinagar, Indian Kashmir's main city. Another 10 guerrillas were shot dead in different gunbattles across the region, police said. Two villagers were also killed in southern Kashmir when suspected insurgents barged into their house and opened fire.
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"...for further questioning."
My guess is that the Pak's will get more answers out of them in three days that we got out of them in three years, but it will hurt a lot more.
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Actually it was so they would know what real torture was. I am sure they will be told to keep their mouths shut if they ever get out of prison or things will get way worse for them.
A failed rocket attack on a U.S. helicopter carrying President Hamid Karzai was carried out by a self-confessed Taliban commando, Afghanistan's top law-enforcer said Saturday. Three suspects were arrested within hours of Thursday's attack, which saw the American military whisk Karzai away from a southeastern city where he was to open a school. "They are local people from that village where we arrested them," Interior Minister Ali Ahmad Jalali said. "They are members of the Taliban. They said they are Taliban."
"Then they asked us to stop hurting them. Then they said 'please.' Then they said 'pretty please'..."
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Suspected Taliban rebels killed two tribal elders who were encouraging participation in elections and shot to death an Afghan military commander in an ambush, officials said Saturday. Afghan security forces searching for three elders kidnapped from Maruf district of southern Kandahar province found their bodies lying in a stream bed late Friday, district mayor Sayed Ali said. All had multiple gunshot wounds and two were dead. A third was still alive despite injuries to the throat and stomach and had been taken to the U.S. military base in Kandahar city for treatment, Ali said. Ali said the men, who were abducted a week ago, were targeted because "they had been telling people to get registered for the election and to go and vote for whoever they choose." Ten election workers have already died this year in a series of bombings and shootings, and two elders were reported killed last week in Zabul province, next to Kandahar, also because they were encouraging Afghans to vote. The violence has also left scores of Afghan security forces dead.
On Saturday, four gunmen riding two motorcycles ambushed the car of a militia commander in Helmand province, killing him and wounding two of his guards, said Haji Mohammed Wali, a spokesman for the governor. He blamed the Taliban for the deadly attack on the commander, Samad Khan.
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A top Uzbek rebel leader wanted by authorities in his home country might be hiding in the tense tribal region that forms the border between Pakistan and Afghanistan, a senior Pakistani general said Saturday. Tahir Yuldash, political leader of the rebel Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, was wounded in March when the army raided a suspected al-Qaida hide-out on the outskirts of Wana, the main town in South Waziristan, said Army Maj. Gen. Niaz Khattak. But Yuldash managed to escape along with hundreds of other militants.
"Curly-toed slippers, don't fail me now!"
"Yes, Tahir Yuldash might be hiding here, and we have some information about it," Khattak, who is responsible for military operations in the North and South Waziristan tribal regions, told reporters in Wana. Khattak also said the army had no information about the whereabouts of Al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden or his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahri, who are thought to be taking refuge in the region. During the March operation, the army said it killed 63 militants and arrested 163 foreign and local suspects. The majority of the tribesmen were released after promising to stay away from foreign militants.
At the time, Uzbekistan had requested "detailed information" about Uzbeks who were captured or killed. Khattak said "about 600 to 700 foreign militants are still hiding or on the run" in the country's tribal regions. "We are chasing them, we will kill or capture them," he said. Khattak also showed the passport of a Jordanian terror suspect, Abdullah al-Haj. The passport, he said, was among items seized after the June 11 raid at the home of a local tribesman, Eda Khan. Khattak said Khan's home was being used by al-Qaida men as a safe house. He said Khan was arrested and is being interrogated.
"Mahmoud! The plyers, please!"
According to the private Geo television, al-Haj might have links with Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a wanted terrorist who has been targeting U.S.-led coalition forces in Iraq.
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Early this morning Ministry of Interior security forces, with the support of the Iraqi National Guard and in cooperation with Multi-National Forces, carried out a surprise operation in the Haifa Street area of Baghdad. As a result, 63 persons were arrested, including Iraqi, Egyptian, Sudanese and Syrian nationals. Those arrested are suspected of major crimes and terrorist operations. During the course of the successful operation several weapons caches were discovered, yielding a large number of rockets, RPGs, explosives, RPK rifles. A suicide car bomb was stopped attempting to enter Haifa Street during the operation. Its two occupants were killed, and the bomb successfully defused. This operation was part of the Interim Iraqi Government's continuing campaign to remove the threat of terrorism and organized crime from within our midst.
NOTE: The information contained in the following press release is being released at the request of the Iraqi Ministry of Interior. Queries regarding this press release should be directed to the Iraqi Ministry of Interior, Sabah Kadhim, Ministry of Interior Spokesman.
including Iraqi, Egyptian, Sudanese and Syrian nationals
You mean some of Mikey Moron's brave "minutemen" aren't Iraqis? Say it ain't so!
I'm just shocked.
Next they'll be telling us the vast majority of Iraqis don't want to live under the boot of a murdering dictator and his thugs.
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Channelling Monty Burns: "eexxcccellleeeenntt"
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If the Ministry of Interior is not exaggerating (which I think they have done in the past in the Najaf situation), then, yes, this is excellent and should (but won't) even get headline treatment in the print dailies.
NINE people were wounded when a mortar bomb struck a crowd of students and parents awaiting exam results in front of a school in the Iraqi city of Baquba, north of Baghdad, police and hospital sources said. "A mortar shell exploded near the secretary's office, wounding several people," said local police chief General Walid Khaled Abdelsalam. Hospital officials said nine people had been brought in with shrapnel wounds. The city has been one of Iraq's major trouble spots for months, with relentless attacks against Iraqi security forces and US troops. On September 14, 12 Iraqi policemen and their driver were killed in Baquba when gunmen sprayed their vehicle with bullets
A video tape surfaced Saturday apparently of a British and two American hostages seized in Iraq, blindfolded and under threat of execution in 48 hours unless female Iraqi prisoners are freed. The Arabic television station Al-Jazeera initially received the tape, and aired brief segments of it; it later surfaced in full on a Web site known for its Islamic militant content. Each man, sitting on the floor wearing a white blindfold, identified himself and then said: "My job consists of installing and furnishing camps at Taji base.'' They appeared unharmed and sat mostly looking downward. The video was the first word on Americans Jack Hensley and Eugene Armstrong and Briton Kenneth Bigley, who were abducted early Thursday. The authenticity of the tape could not be verified.
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Let's see, how did "W" put it...'your either for us or against us; in this war on terrorism...'. I guess Turkey is making that statement quite clear now. Question now is, will "W" accept this tepid response from a 'friend'?
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UFO: US better be careful or Turkey might have it kicked out of NATO.
A NATO without the US is like a car without a steering wheel, an engine, a transmission, wheels, etc. NATO gets it military capability from the US, not the other away around. Only a genius like UFO could see this as a problem for the US.
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US better be careful or Turkey might have it kicked out of NATO
Hey works for me. Thats about 350-400 million US dollars we save every year (considering the total amount of monies that NATO gets from its members is in the 500 million ballpark) in expenditures plus the number of troops we don't have to send for them. So remind me again, why is this a BAD thing for us?
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Tom's "Secret Plan": Decapitate Iran, Syria, and North Korea without a ground war. Let Iraq split; build a huge base in Kurdistan (with access to a port through the province of Syria). Pull out of the U.N. and NATO, sending Kofi and the U.N. elsewhere. [That's why I can't run for office.]
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A NATO without the US is like a car without a steering wheel, an engine, a transmission, wheels
But the UK is the bodywork.
Belgium is the courtesy light.
Spain is the fine corinthian leather
France is the three beverage containers
Turkey is the broken jack
Greece is the misfolded map in the glove compartment
Germany is the 427 rat motor of your youth.
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So that would make Iceland the loose change between the seats
Canada the left-over Bigmac waxpaper
Italy the Windshield wipers
Lithuania that odd mold in the trunk
Slovakia the floor mat
Luxembourg the mysterious smell
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France is the three beverage containers
Turkey is the broken jack
Greece is the misfolded map in the glove compartment
No, no, no.
Turkey is the mysterious short in the electrical system which your mechanic can't trace, but results in your waking up to a dead battery at random intervals, usually on days when you have to go in early.
Greece is the plastic-sided radiator which you just know is going to blow itself to hell on a mountain road in the middle of nowhere.
France is the expensive insurance policy you carry for years and years, and then when you finally need it, you find you're not covered. And then they raise your rates.
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"...differences erupted publicly this week between North Atlantic Treaty Organization allies Turkey and the US over attacks on Turkey's ethnic cousins, the Turkmens in northern Iraq...."
US better be careful or Turkey might have it kicked out of NATO.
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"...differences erupted publicly this week between North Atlantic Treaty Organization allies Turkey and the US over attacks on Turkey's ethnic cousins, the Turkmens in northern Iraq...."
US better be careful or Turkey might have it kicked out of NATO.
British troops took control of the offices of Muqtada al-Sadr in the southern city of Basra on Friday after clashing with militants loyal to the rebel cleric, witnesses said. An Associated Press reporter saw the British forces storm the offices and deploy around the building as reinforcements backed by tanks moved in. A British military spokesman said one British soldier was wounded in the clashes, but he was unable to confirm the building had been seized. "There have been several incidents in central Basra city," Squadron Leader Steve Dharamraj said, without providing further details. The fighting between the troops and al-Mahdi Army militiamen was centered near al-Sadr's offices in the al-Tuwaisa neighborhood in the city center. Sporadic explosions and gunfire echoed through the area. Flames could be seen leaping out of the second floor of the two-story building that houses the offices. Earlier, al-Mahdi Army militiamen took up positions on main streets and intersections near al-Sadr's office.
Tensions have been building between militiamen and British troops, who raided a smaller al-Sadr office in the city a couple of days ago. Sheik Asaad al-Basri, an al-Sadr aide in Basra, threatened during Friday prayers to restart military operations if the British forces did not give back the confiscated weapons. Some militiamen fleeing the scene of Friday's clashes said officials were mobilizing al-Mahdi Army members in the city. The raid could heighten tensions and possibly lead to retaliatory attacks from the militia.
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Sheik Asaad al-Basri, an al-Sadr aide in Basra, threatened ... to restart military operations if the British forces did not give back the confiscated weapons.
With what? Stones? Those weapons should be destroyed already.
Leader of the opposition in the National Assembly and secretary-general of the Muttahida Majlis-i-Amal, Maulana Fazlur Rahman, opposing the use of force in Wana, Waziristan, said that military action in the tribal areas could prove detrimental for the country. Talking at the 21st annual 'Dastarbanbdi' ceremony held at the Jamia Usmania, Shershah, Karachi, last night, he said: "The religious seminaries were spreading message of Islam, which is a religion of peace, and labelling it as the religion of terrorism is the part of international conspiracy hatched by the United States," alleging that bringing the people and the armed forces in conflict was an example of how the US plan was being implemented here. Mr Rahman vowed to raise the issue the world over if the US did not give up what he termed its anti-Islam policies and the propaganda against the seminaries. Well next thing that he said was that there is no such thing as terrorism and it is just a zionist hoax. He further went on to say ........................... The last part of his speech was interrupted by a LGB which penetrated 3' inside Fazl's big ass before exploding killing all present.
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