FARC Guerrilla kills Seven Comrades and Then Hands Himself Over to the Police Translated from Spanish
Apparently, the other subversives had been opposed to his plan of desertion. The incident occurred in the rural zone of the town of Colombia (Huila). The operational commander of the police considered this incident to be a indicator of the weakening of FARC that has been generated by the pressure of the Army. "This kid couldn't bear any longer the constant bad treatment, the degradation, and the humiliation by his comrades and squad leader," stated General Alberto Ruiz, who arrived in Neiva yesterday to learn first hand what occurred. His conclusion was supported by the statements of "Sergio", a 21-year old youth, who in the vicinity of the Bellavista ranch murdered five men and two women with his AK-47 rifle, in order to escape and turn himself into the authorities. "Lulu", one of his comrades, is believed to have escaped but is gravely injured, said the Army.
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some "comrade".
I'm amazed that there is some MSM sympathy for this individual: a 21 year old AK wielding man is not a "YOUTH" in my book.
AN Australian national jailed in Lebanon for terrorist activities will be interviewed over a shooting attack on a Sydney police station upon his release, New South Wales Premier Bob Carr said today. Saleh Jamal is wanted by NSW Police after fleeing Australia using a fake passport in March last year while on bail for alleged involvement in the 1998 shooting attack on Lakemba police station. A military court in Beirut today sentenced Jamal, a Jordanian-born Australian, to five years jail on charges of possession of weapons and explosives, forging an Australian passport, forming a group and planning acts that endangered state security. He will serve his time in a prison with hard labour.
Oh bloody good!
The same court sentenced another Australian, Lebanese-born Hayssam Melhem, and another Australian resident to one year in jail. The identity of the third Australian is yet to be confirmed. Mr Carr said NSW Police would interview Jamal when he was released from prison. "When he completes his jail sentence in Lebanon we will be waiting for him," he told reporters. No formal extradition treaty exists between Lebanon and Australia, but Mr Carr said he had been assured Jamal would be returned. "I've been advised that arrangements are in place now to restore him to Australia and the Australian justice system when he leaves Lebanon," Mr Carr said.
Australian Federal Police will also interview Jamal over alleged immigration offences. A Department of Foreign Aaffair and Trade spokeswoman said the department had taken a close and active interest in Jamal's case. "The Lebanese military court found Mr Jamal guilty of terror-related charges and sentenced him to five years imprisonment with hard labour," she said. "We have undertaken consular visits to ensure his welfare (and) access to legal counsel." Jamal fled Australia using a fake passport in March last year, while on bail for his alleged involvement in the 1998 shooting attack on the Lakemba police station in southwestern Sydney. He was arrested in May on terrorism charges while trying to flee Lebanon, again using a false passport. Jamal was found guilty of "creating an illegal association, together with two Lebanese men, in order to carry out activities harming state security", one source said.
This article starring:
HAISAM MELHEM
al-Qaeda
SALEH JAMAL
al-Qaeda
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Hmm. No demands that the sentence be commuted, which is what the Canucks would have angled for.
A suspected Islamic extremist believed linked to a group that planned attacks on key targets in Madrid was found dead in his prison cell in the northern Spanish city of Zaragoza after apparently hanging himself, prison officials told AFP.
Oh. Gosh. Darn.
They said Mustafa Zanibar, a Moroccan, was found by prison staff as they came to deliver lunch. The sources said he was strangled by his belt in his isolation cell. The 41-year-old Zanibar was sentenced to 29 years in jail in 1996 for murder after burning a compatriot alive at El Ejido in southern Spain. His conversion to radical Islam came after his sentencing.
Before that he was just a homicidal maniac...
Spain's top investigating magistrate, Baltasar Garzon, accused Zanibar of belonging to a terrorist organization in the course of a probe into an alleged plot to blow up the Real Madrid soccer stadium, the main law courts and several railway stations. Investigations following attacks on Madrid suburban trains last March in which 191 people were killed and 1,900 injured has thrown increasing light on a network of Islamic radicals, with ramifications in Australia, the Netherlands and Switzerland, according to judicial officials. Last October, Garzon ordered the arrest of about 30 people who were suspected of being involved in the alleged plot to attack targets in Madrid. The sources said Garzon believed that a cell of activists involved in the alleged plot was formed in prison between 2001 and 2003, which explained the connection with Zanibar.
An "assisted" suicide, perhaps?
"'Ere you go, Mustafa!"
"Wot's that?"
"It's a belt. You use it to hold yer pants up. Here, lemme help you on with it."
"Hey! That ain't my waist!"
This article starring:
Baltasar Garzon
MUSTAFA ZANIBAR
al-Qaeda in Europe
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Mmmm... I would have said Zaragoza was more in central, or eastern Spain. It's in the old kingdom of Aragon, in the Ebro river valley, almost equidistant from Barcelona and San Sebastian.
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The 41-year-old Zanibar was sentenced to 29 years in jail in 1996 for murder after burning a compatriot alive at El Ejido in southern Spain. His conversion to radical Islam came after his sentencing.
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Assisted suicide? Probably. I have been tracking Spanish press and it looks probable the ETA people provided logistics and tecgnical help for the Islamists who killed 199 people in March, 11. Afer the bombings a mearing campaign led by the press, radios and TVs controlled by Jesus Polanco (a friend of the socialists) caused the defeat of the right-wing government on the basis that ETA was innocent and that it was the governemnt who had brought disaster on Spain through its stance on Irak.
Now imagine if that guy had told that ETA had ben involved and that the bombing was linked not to Irak but to Al-Andalus or perhaps to Morroco's ambitions over the Canary Islands.
BTW the police has been suspiciously slow in going after the people who had provided the explosives and there is a woman who semed to have info (she was the mistress of one of the providers) and drowned in front of two policemen who did nothing to rescue her
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there is a woman who semed to have info (she was the mistress of one of the providers) and drowned in front of two policemen who did nothing to rescue her
Those cops sure picked a fine time to decide that it was important to remove the green loogies from thier nostrils.
Immigration Minister Rita Verdonk is moving to deport three Muslim clerics because of accusations they represent a threat to public order and national security.
"Seethe and be damned...somewhere else."
The three imams will be declared undesirable aliens and two of them will have their residence permits cancelled, the first such action has been taken against clerics. In the third imam's case, an application for an extension of a residence permit will be refused. The Dutch security service AIVD said one of the imams originates from Bosnia and a second comes from Kenya. The origin of the third imam was not released, newspaper De Volkskrant reported.
The Arabian Entity, perhaps?
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Dont matter where they come from - they are Muslims. Cant anything more than deportation be done? Why allow them to continue polluting the world?
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That sounds awf'ly bigoted, Glereper. It reads as thought the next sentence should be, "Kill the kids, too, so they don't grow up vicious like their daddies."
U.S. police have captured the head of a notorious Honduran youth gang who is wanted at home for the killing of 28 people in a bus attack last December that shocked Central America. The Department of Homeland Security said Ebert Anibal Rivera, head of the Mara Salvatrucha gang in Honduras, was arrested after a vehicle stop in Falfurrias, Texas on Feb. 10. Rivera was later handed over to the Border Patrol. "We are trying to find out if the U.S. authorities will press charges against him and if not we will immediately ask for his extradition so he can face justice here," Honduran Security Minister Oscar Alvarez told a news conference on Wednesday in Tegucigalpa.
Only if you promise to keep him locked up. Does Honduras have the death penalty?
Rivera, 29, is wanted for his gang's attack on Dec. 23 when half a dozen gunmen armed with assault rifles stopped a bus in a rough neighborhood of the northern city of San Pedro Sula and opened fire on passengers. Six of the dead were children. Honduras said the Mara Salvatrucha carried out the attack in a warning to the government, which began a harsh crackdown on youth gangs in 2003. Police have already arrested 12 people in connection with the murders but Rivera is believed to have fled to the United States in late December, entering the country illegally. He is accused of masterminding the bus shooting.
Honduran security forces have arrested more than 2,000 leading members of the Mara Salvatrucha and a rival gang, the Mara-18, in less than two years. The maras youth gangs are also active in neighboring Guatemala and El Salvador and have their roots in Hispanic gangs in Los Angeles. They established a strong presence in Central America when illegal immigrant convicts in the United States were sent back to their home countries in the late 1990s. El Salvador said this week it wants the U.S. government to provide criminal records for the thousands of Salvadorans it deports every year.
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We should not extradite any one to another country for a capital crime if that country does not have the death penalty.
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or effective "crossfire" incidents
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Or frequent "work accidents".
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or the conclusive "heart failure".
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One of the real problems is if they get put in prison and then someway "break out" because the guards are given $$$ and then go on a coffee break.
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Here it is, Sea: The gunmen left behind a note saying they represented a guerrilla group, the Cinchonero People's Liberation Movement, opposed to the reintroduction of the death penalty in Honduras.
However, the group in question has not been active since the 1980s and is thought to be defunct. The attackers' note also challenged a number of leading politicians who have come out strongly against organised crime - particularly the president of Congress, Porfirio Lobo.
Mr Lobo, a potential candidate in next year's presidential election, has been a strong advocate of the death penalty for serious crimes.
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Better he serve out his term in a Honduran prison, than an easy U.S. federal pen. I'm sure the Hondurans are longing to show him their down-home hospitality.
Police said Thursday they thwarted planned attacks on an airport, malls, a church and U.S. troops with the arrests of three members of an al-Qaida linked terror group who allegedly came to the Philippines to train Muslim militants to make bombs. The two Indonesians and a Malaysian - all alleged Jemaah Islamiyah members - were arrested in southern Zamboanga city in December along with a Filipino member of the Abu Sayyaf Muslim extremist group with bomb-making manuals, bomb parts and money for attacks, officials said. "We were able to foil an attempt to bring into the country terrorists with firearms, with training materials, with explosives, before they can do their thing," Interior Secretary Angelo Reyes told reporters as the men were presented to media. One of them shouted "Allahu fubar akbar!" - or "God is great."
The men allegedly belonged to a previously unknown Jemaah Islamiyah terror cell in the country, the authorities said. The arrests were not immediately announced to allow authorities time to identify six of their local comrades, one of whom has been arrested, said Chief Supt. Ismael Rafanan, head of the police Intelligence Group. Excellent!
Police intelligence officials said the targets included a Roman Catholic church and the airport in the bustling port city of Davao, unspecified malls in Manila and U.S. soldiers participating in joint training with the Philippine military. Authorities recovered bomb components, about $7,000 and at least two pistols from the four, who were located in part due to intelligence provided by Indonesia and Malaysia. While under surveillance, they were monitored meeting some Abu Sayyaf members, officials said. The money was intended to finance the attacks and training to make explosives, including car bombs to be organized by Jemaah Islamiyah in the southern region of Mindanao, officials said.
The arrests are an indication of continuing collusion between foreign militants and local Muslim radicals. They also rekindled concerns over the government's limitations in dealing with terrorism and the need for the public to help guard against attacks. "We couldn't place an intelligence operative in every nook and corner of the country," Rafanan said. The four have been charged with illegal possession of explosives and firearms. The foreigners also violated immigration laws, they said. Rafanan said investigators were trying to verify whether the four have links with suspected Muslim militants responsible for three almost-simultaneous bombings that killed eight people in Manila, General Santos and Davao last week. Jemaah Islamiyah is blamed for several deadly attacks in Southeast Asia, including bombings on Indonesia's Bali island in 2002 that killed 202 people. Authorities also blame the group for a series of bomb attacks in Manila in December 2000 that left 22 people dead. Philippine security officials say Jemaah Islamiyah has worked with members of Abu Sayyaf, a small but brutal al-Qaida-linked group on a U.S. list of terror organizations, and the Moro Islamic Liberation Front, a larger group which has been fighting for a separate Muslim homeland in the southern Philippines.
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DEBKAfile's intelligence sources reveal: A high-placed Iranian mole has been caught in Iranian president Mohammed Khatami's office in Tehran. Hossein Marashai, head of Iran's cultural heritage council, was caught using a sophisticated US-manufactured listening-long-distance-transmitting device at top-level Iranian leadership meetings. DEBKAfile's sources calls this the deepest foreign intelligence penetration in all 26 years of Iran's Islamic regime
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Who knows if this is true? Who knows who boomed Hariri? What we know is that the game is on with regard to Syria/Lebanon/Iran and that will be the thread to watch on Rantburg 2005.
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Could be they (the mullahs) just want to off him and calling him a US spy is an easy way to get it done.
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Like I said, who knows at this point. Actually, wouldn't it be pretty impressive job by Iranian counter intelligence if the best mole we've got really is just the cultural heritage minister. I assume people with such titles here are on the other side.
Hizbullah Deputy Secretary General Naim Qassem said on Wednesday his party would not take sides between the opposition and the loyalists, denying that the Ain al-Tineh pro-Syrian gathering replaces the anti-government Bristol gathering.
Probably surprised at the depth of reaction, I'd guess they're waiting to see which way the wind is going to blow. Hezbollah's looking out for Hezbollah, not for Lebabon, but they wouldn't want to remind people too loudly of that fact, and Nasrallah's already opened his mouth too wide...
Speaking on the Arabic News Broadcast (ANB) to a group of students representing different political affiliations from the loyalists and the opposition, Qassem added that the issue of disarming the resistance group was not a subject of discussion between any groups because the arms are not confronting any other Lebanese armed force.
Not at the moment, anyway. But civilized nations don't allow armed "militias" to maintain themselves, precisely because they represent a danger to the state...
"Why does Hizbullah reject the opposition's call to join the 'forces of change and democracy?' The answer is that we do not believe in such definition to describe the rift between the different Lebanese parties; in this respect, we are not talking about volume and strength," Qassem said.
Hezbollah resists the opposition's called to join the 'forces of change and democracy' because Hezbollah's against change and democracy. They're theocrats.
"If we join one side it means we cancel out the other side; both represent factions of the Lebanese people from all sects and religions," he added.
"And we haven't figured which side's going to win yet. Once we do, we'll have been with them from the very beginning, you betcha."
Qassem said that Hizbullah did not extend President Emile Lahoud's mandate in defiance of UN Security Council Resolution 1559. "The resolution was prepared earlier in June by France and stipulated only the withdrawal of Syrian forces from Lebanon. When they needed the U.S. to pass the resolution, they added the issue of disarming the resistance," Qassem added.
"Therefore that part of it doesn't count."
Asked if Hizbullah would submit to the will of a new majority choosing to disarm all militias including his party, Qassem said that the question was wrong.
As I've mentioned before, when somebody says "the real issue is..." they're trying to draw attention away from what you were actually talking about...
"The question should never be whether to disarm Hizbullah or not but rather which political stance should the Lebanese people and their political parties take to safeguard the country against any Israeli threats or invasion," he added.
But the question as put was whether Hezbollah will submit to the will of the majority and give up its armaments. The answer appears to be "no."
"It is a political question whereby each party expresses its views. Some would advocate a diplomatic approach, others would suggest a military deterrence," Qassem said. "We believe the threat is imminent and we must keep our arms to defend ourselves."
"Regardless of what the rest of you want. Nobody tells us what to do, least of all you."
As to Monday's vote of confidence session in Parliament, Qassem would not reveal Hizbullah stance. "We should keep our cards covered; why expose one stance or the other before the vote of confidence is laid out on the table," he said.
"Like I say, we don't know who's going to come out on top at this point. Whichever one does, we'll probably be on the winning side."
In all cases, according to him, Hizbullah would not vote out the government on the grounds of holding it responsible for assassinating former Prime Minister Rafik Hariri. "We consider the government responsible for a thorough and effective investigation into the murder. If they fail to do so, then we hold them responsible for this failure," he said.
What if they dunnit? That's one of the more loudly proclaimed theories at the moment...
"So far we believe the government is doing what is within its capacity and capabilities, hoping to use the expertise and cooperation from other countries and international agencies," he said.
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Yeap,Fred.It's like when someone says"To tell you the truth..."indicates that person was lying before.
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Part of the subtext here is that Hizbollah gets its munitions from Syria and it gets its subsidy from Iran thru Syria. Without Syrian help Hizbollah would be seriously compromised.
Obviously if Syria pulls out Hizbollah could still bribe Lebanese officials to keep the flow of munitions going, etc. However, it would be much dicier for Hizbollah in this case and the heavier weapons would probably not get to them.
Important steps have been achieved in the last few days by the Iraqi forces to arrest important leaders in the terrorist groups.
Some were arrested in Mosel and Baghdad including Arabs from Syria, Saudi Arabia, Lebanon, Sudan, Egypt, Yemen and others.
Adam Doma (42 years) from Sudan confessed that he received training in Syria under the supervision of Syrian Intelligence officers. He confessed that he beheaded 10 Iraqi civilians by his own hands so as he was given a leadership activity as Amer. He studied (Sunni Shariah) and lived in Iraq for 15 years! He confessed that he is a Syrian Intelligent agent. He was responsible for many terrorist activities including beheadings and recruiting Arabs in Syria and Iraq.
Some members of his network were also arrested including a terrorist from Egypt who decapitated at least 6 Iraqis and was responsible for attacks against Shiite sites and a terrorist group called the Net of Palestine responsible for attacks against Shiite mosques.
Anis Al-Essa is a Syrian who works as an officer in the Syrian Intelligence Security. He was arrested with Doma and after 3 weeks pretending as deaf and dumb he collapsed and confessed about his role and his job with SIS.
Other terrorists who were arrested confessed that they received different kinds of training by the Syrian Intelligence Security and forces in Lathikiyah in Syria. Once they pass the courses the SIS facilitate their entry to Iraq from at least three points in Mosel and Ramadi. They then keep communication with SIS via tech and human communicative ways.
The confessions were video recorded and copies were sent via the Iraqi PM to the UN as well as to the Syrian government according to news sources.
That's rubbing it in their faces, but since they're shameless their response will probably be that they didn't receive anything through official channels, followed by studied indifference, followed by an accusation of interfering in Syria's internal affairs.
We could have pictures of Assad shaking their hands and giving them their diplomas from the Syrian School of Mass Murder, and the reaction would be a yawn and a half-hearted "Bush Lied".
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Two gunmen stormed government offices in Srinagar, the summer capital of Indian-administered Kashmir, sparking a three-hour siege Thursday that resulted in seven deaths -- including the two gunmen -- police officials said. Police killed the gunmen, who are suspected Islamic militants, ending the siege. Three security forces and two civilians died in the violence.
At one point, as many as 200 people were inside the offices, but all were evacuated safely from the compound and surrounding buildings after two hours, according to Syed Mohammed Syed, the senior superindent of police in Kashmir. The attack took place early Thursday afternoon, and police moved quickly to surround the complex. After the civilians were evacuated, police went into offensive operations inside the office complex shortly before sunset, engaging in gun battles with the suspected militants and firing mortar shells.
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Three people have been killed in clashes between Shia and Sunni Muslims in a northern Nigerian city. Fighting broke out when a Shia group attacked Sunnis at a mosque in the city of Sokoto, in front of the Sultan of Sokoto's palace. Police say they made several arrests after the violence, which follows the killing of a Shia last weekend. The BBC's Ibrahim Dosara in Sokoto says Shia are a minority among the predominantly Sunni population. Nigeria's 130 million people are roughly equally divided between Muslims in the north and Christians in the south. Correspondents say that poverty drives rival groups to compete for scarce resources, such as land.
Leaving out the real reason, Sunnis and Shia don't play well together
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Religion of Peace, right Gentle?
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The government on Wednesday launched a crackdown against radical Islamists, banning two organisations for their alleged involvement in anarchic and subversive activities across the country, and arresting an alleged extremist leader. The Ministry of Home Affairs announced the ban on Jagrata Muslim Janata Bangladesh and Jamaatul Mujaheedin hours after the police arrested a professor of Rajshahi University, Dr Asadullah al-Ghalib, for instigating violence in the name of Islam.
The police also conducted raids in different parts of the northern region to arrest Siddiqul Islam, popularly known as Bangla Bhai, who is the linchpin of the Jagrata Muslim Janata Bangladesh. 'The government is firm to take action against anyone involved in destroying peace and discipline, and instigating anarchic activities in the name of any organisation,' said a press note issued Wednesday by the home ministry. 'The two banned organisations have been engaged in killing, dacoity, bomb attacks, issuing threats and other subversive activities in different parts of the country, endangering the lives of the common people and destroying their property,' the press note said.
Wonder what they did to fall out of favor?
The government's admission of the existence of radical Islamist outfits in the country comes at a time when quarters at home and abroad — the media in particular — have long been warning of their existence and motives.Foreign lenders and development partners have been the latest to express 'grave concern' over the emergence of Islamist outfits in Bangladesh. Sources in the ruling party said Wednesday's admission and action against radical Islamists came following mounting pressure from international lenders who are currently meeting in Washington DC to review their aid policy towards Bangladesh.
Ahhh... That's it. Crack down or the money flow turns off. That means the crackdown won't last long...
The government press note, however, mentioned as a reason for the ban order the recent attacks on socio-cultural and non-governmental organisations including the Bangladesh Rural Advancement Committee and the Grameen Bank in the northern part of the country. The Islamist outfits have continued to threaten such attacks. Following the latest bout of attacks, the government launched a countrywide police-drive and has nabbed as many as 50 alleged extremists in the last couple of days, including Wednesday's arrest of Ghalib, a professor of Arabic at Rajshahi University. Ghalib's arrest came following many of the arrested people naming him as their leader. The press note said Ghalib has been 'trying to create instability in the country exploiting religious sentiments and distracting a group of youths'. Expressing the government's commitment to handle 'these elements' with an iron hand, the press note said, 'Such activities will not be tolerated.'
I'll believe that when he's dangling from a rope.
Mentioning the recent attacks on different organisations, the press note said the government has strengthened police activities across the county. A number of people were caught red-handed in Bogra, Jaipurhat, Sirajganj, Gaibandha, Thakurgaon, Moulavibazar, Gopalganj, Dhamrai and Savar, it said. The press note said that the police operations also recovered explosive items and objectionable books and documents. From the confession of some of the arrested people, it was known that they are all active members of the JMJB or the Jamaatul Mujaheedin. 'They have engaged in such criminal activities to materialise their objectives. In their identical confessional statements, they disclosed Siddiqul Islam alias Bagla Bhai and Rajshahi University teacher Ghalib as their leaders,' the press note added.
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FYI: "dacoity" noun (pl. dacoities) a violent robbery committed by dacoits in India or Burma (Myanmar).
Literally, those who have an irrational fear of Islamicists. Not many of those around, I think. Most fear of Islamists is totally rational, given current circumstances.
A car bomber drove into a parking lot inside police headquarters in Saddam Hussein's hometown and detonated explosives on Thursday, killing at least 15 people and wounding 22, police and witnesses said. The massive blast in Tikrit set ablaze 20 cars and sent clouds of smoke into the sky. At least 10 charred bodies could be scene laying on the ground. Police Lt. Sha'alan Allawi said the bomber drove a vehicle into a parking lot inside the police compound before detonating the explosives. Several ambulances ferried casualties to a local hospital.
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A US marine, captured on film killing a wounded Iraqi at point blank range during November's assault on Fallujah, will not be formally charged due to lack of evidence, according to a report Wednesday on CBS News. A Marine spokesman, Captain Dan McSweeney, told AFP, however, he had been informed by the Navy Criminal Investigative Services, which is investigating the killing, that "the case is still very much open." The November 13 shooting occurred during a search of a mosque in a widely broadcast incident that sparked worldwide outrage and was described by the International Committee of the Red Thingy Cross as a demonstration of "utter contempt for humanity."
They weren't there, of course, they didn't see the mook playing dead, and they hadn't lost a friend the day before in a similar situation.
In the incident, a trooper raised his rifle and shot point blank at an apparently unarmed, wounded Iraqi who was slumped against one of the mosque walls, in footage captured by an embedded camaraman working for the NBC network. Although the insurgents were found to be unarmed, investigators said the one the Marine believed he had seen moving could have been reaching for a weapon. The rifleman was withdrawn from combat pending the results of the investigation. CBS News said Wednesday it had learned that military investigators had concluded insufficient evidence existed to formally charge the marine.
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Hopefully sense prevailed. It's awful how thte media made a big deal of this. I can only imagine how tough it must be to carry the memories of close quarters combat in Fallujah. The media compounded it by making him a pariah from their comfy chairs in New York.
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What do you guys and gals think about imbedded reporters that are part of the military, instead of imbedding others with an agenda? I am all for freedom of the press, but in a wartime situation, what is reported, or more to the point, how it is reported is literally as much a a weapon against us as a terrorist's rifle, IED, or RPG. I see how things were done in WW2 as a model, though it will be hard to find the likes o' someone like Ernie Pyle.
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The November 13 shooting occurred during a search of a mosque in a widely broadcast incident that sparked worldwide outrage and was described by the International Committee of the Red Cross as a demonstration of âutter contempt for humanity.â
What then, would the TERRORISTS in Iraq that are DELIBERATELY targeting CIVILIANS be responsible for, in the Red Cross' eyes?
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BAR- How could the Terrorosi be responsible for their own actions? They were only driven over the edge into violence by the actions of the Marines in Fallujah, whacking the almost dead, the children in their beds, the young men who did not wish to fight against the Americans . . . wait . . . who were we talking about?
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No spin in this article ,nope,none at all.(Sheesh,frigging wankers)
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My utter contempt for the Red Cross is reflected by my directing all that sort of donation to the Salvation Army.
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There was a financial audit in the early 90s about the French Red Cross: basicaly from each Franc they collected only 30 cents went to cure people. The remaining 70 cents went to ad campaigns for donations and for supporting its bureaucracy. No wonder that the Red Cross has been infiltrated by leftists who want to live in the dole and use it to further their political aims.
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The November 13 shooting occurred during a search of a mosque in a widely broadcast incident that sparked worldwide outrage and was described by the International Committee of the Red Thingy Cross as a demonstration of âutter contempt for humanity.â
And yet it was completely in accordance with the Geneva Conventions...
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Good news, common sense prevailed. From what I recall from the original report, what's left out of the "captured on film killing a wounded Iraqi" was the technique of feigning injury or having wounded jihadist committed suicide with a grenade to kill and wound our forces in Fallujah was an apparent tactic the bad guys were using.
When it came to that split second to make a decision to shoot or not, the young Marine reacted to the situation confronting him then and with the training he had gotten to that point. He did not have the opportunity to have the event placed on "instant replay" so he could then make a call; and, guess what, the ICRC wasn't there to help him make the call. Warfare is dirty business and unfortunately their are far too many second guessers out there who've never had to confront those life or death situations, but are more than willing to cirticize those of us who've been there and those who are currently in that postion on a daily basis.
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I am hyper-reluctant to second guess *any* decision made in the heat of combat. Especially when the penalty for a wrong choice is death.
As for the Red Cross, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the International Red Cross - a corrupt group of political wankers - is completely separate from the American Red Cross who actually provide useful disaster relief.
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I highly recommend looking at Charity Navigator when comptemplating making a charitable donation, if you want to make sure the largest portion of your dollars will actually do some good. The American Red Cross is one of the best orgs with a 4-star rating, meaning the largest part of your dollar will make it to the people who need it and not get lost in paying for administrative overhead and fund-raising efforts.
The Salvation Army is not on their site because they do not file a Form 990 with the IRS, but they are also one of the best causes you can give to.
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That jerk playing dead wasn't wearing a uniform, so he got exactly what he deserved under the Geneva Convention.
That's what the military's response should have been to this episode. Throw some bogus "international law" back in these leftist's faces.
LotR, didn't you mean to say:
Throw some REAL "international law" back in these leftist's faces.
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The day the Red Cross walks point for all our foot patrols, is the day I start caring what they think about shooting. I don't/they don't so neither of us can judge the actions of that Marine. I do have to question why arms were in the mosque after U.S. troops had swept the area. The fcirst thing you do when you come upon wounded is DISARM THEM. Nobody wants to be part of the enimies last 'stab' before death. FYI: 'International Law' is whatever the super powers of the world determine, not what the IRC interprets.
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"He deserves a MEDAL."
The best support for the "he deserves a medal" argument is the observation that "the MSM and IRC would have spasms for days."
Maybe we should just let the attention to this episode just fade into the sunset. The fact that the Marine isn't going to be charged with murder for shooting the nearly dead Iraqi, doesn't just naturally lead to the conclusion that he deserves a medal. The Marine, believing the man was a threat and knowing that other nearly dead or playing nearly dead terrorists killed Americans before their end, made a split second decision in combat to make sure that didn't happen again. If those are the facts, then all second guessers should conclude the correct decision was made, regardless of whether the nearly dead Iraqi was in fact a threat. The Marine was doing his job, but he is not alone, alot of Marines are doing their jobs. They can't all get medals, for if they do, then what are medals worth?
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I would like to walk into the offices of the International Red Cross and take a dump on the president's desk. They are complete a**holes.
/immature comments for today
#27
At first, I was very angry that this Marine was put on trial. But, someone here at RB made my anger subside. This particular RB'r stated on one of his/her comments that the trial was necessary so that he will NEVER be charged for this incident, in the future. Supposedly, this brave Marine was going to be declared innocent anyway. Lucky for him that Rummy is in charge.
The U.S. military has begun to transfer authority to Iraqi security forces. Officials said the U.S.-led coalition has been quietly handing over the command to Iraq's military and security units in the four most violent provinces in the country. Fourteen of the 18 provinces have already been under Iraqi security control.
Fourteen of 18, ya say? Golly, I hadn't read that in the New York Times. Sounds almost ... peaceful ... in those provinces.
You still read the New York Times?
In the latest move, the U.S. military has transferred control to the Iraq Army in Baghdad. The U.S. Army's First Cavalry Division has handed over authority in several areas to Baghdad to the Iraq Army's 40th Brigade. "We have reached a certain stage," Iraqi Brig. Gen. Jalil Khalaf said at the handover ceremony on Feb. 21. "The Americans are very accurate. They saw that we reached a certain stage in advanced training and in [the ability to] take over responsibilities."
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This will be another step in the process, another quiet success. While the MSM, the LLL, and LDSOTW knock US policy and actions, President Bush is sticking to the plan and making things happen. When they finally wake up and THEY realize that events and history have passed them by, they will only see a bit of smoke from the train on the horizon.
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02/24/2005 0:48 Comments ||
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Hey, AP, can you define LDSOTW for the acronymically challenged?
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Wha...?! But what about the QUAGMIRE?! It can't be!
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02/24/2005 9:27 Comments ||
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Interesting article on page 1 of the WSJ-odt this morning.
"Capt. Jamie Farelly, leader of the nine man U. S. team [and member of the Gen. Mattis of Tomorrow Club], was furious. Even though no one was injured, his men could have been hurt. The Iraqis' commander, who is called Col. Yassir, immediately said it wasn't his fault. His soldiers weren't professionals like the Marines, he said, and shouldn't be expected to perform at the same level.
"' B***s***! It is your fault,' Capt. Farrelly says he screamed at Col. Yassir. "Just like everything here is your fault, because you don't hold anyone accountable. You don't discipline your troops. You don't maintain basic standards.' Col. Yassir confirms the account."
Marines. Gotta love 'em. But that poor Col Yassir has spent 25 years under the Hussein regime learning that every screw-up is somebody else's fault or you die. Now he gets to read about it in the WSJ. Fortunately, there's a new generation coming.
" 'My junior leaders are supbeerb. But my battallion commander is a coward,' says Capt. Chuck Green who leads a U. S. advisory team in Mosul."
We may be there for 20 years till the next generation can fly solo, and that's OK with me.
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Jame Retief---I threw out the acronym on a whym, heh heh. Believe it or not, MacNails nailed it! MacNails, have a see-gar!
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Mrs D I read that article this morning and came to the same conclusion. It was interesting how Col. Yassir said he wanted his troopers to be his friend. Sounds like bad parenting to me. Consistent discipline, clear expectations of character and performance and leadership by example are what are needed. These are not qualities of the Arab officer corps up till now. It will take time for them to change.
Is a Rose Revolution in Bashir's future? Stay tuned...
Two eastern Sudanese rebel groups, the Beja Congress and the Free Lions, have merged to form a new party called the Eastern Front, officials from the organizations announced here yesterday. The "suffering of the people of Eastern Sudan ... can come to an end only under one leadership and unified programs and objectives," said Beja Congress Chairman Mussa Mohammed Ahmed. "We are ready for peace talks with the government based on the Naivasha model, the peace accord between Khartoum and South Sudan," he said, flanked by Free Lions chief Mabruk Mubarak Selim at a joint news conference.
The Naivasha agreement, concluded at a signing ceremony in Kenya in January, ended Sudan's 21-year north-south civil war in Sudan pitting Khartoum against the Sudan Peoples Liberation Army. The painstakingly negotiated accord ended Africa's longest-running civil conflict with a series of power and wealth-sharing packages. Like other Sudanese rebel movements, including those in the troubled western region of Darfur, the Eastern Front says its region has been a victim of "marginalization" by Khartoum. At the news conference in the Eritrean capital yesterday the front called for "a just sharing of the wealth of the national resource."
In early February, 14 people were killed when Sudanese police dispersed a riot in Port Sudan which they blamed on the Beja Congress. The Beja Congress has disputed the official death toll and maintains that 36 people were in fact killed. The Beja Congress claims to be the sole representative of eastern Sudan and last year, along with the Free Lions, withdrew from the national opposition umbrella National Democratic Alliance, charging its demands were not being taken into account in talks with Khartoum.
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Rebels ambushed Sudanese troops and Sudan's military bombed and destroyed eight villages in Darfur, officials said Wednesday, detailing the latest reported violations of a largely ignored cease-fire in the western region of Sudan. The rebel ambush reportedly took place on Tuesday in Graida, a town about 100 kilometers south of Nyala, the capital of South Darfur state, one of the three states that make up Darfur, a region roughly the size of France, said Ahmat Allam-mi, a member of a commission monitoring the cease-fire. The government has reported the attack to the commission, but African Union monitors in Darfur have not yet been able to investigate the report, said Allam-mi, who is also an adviser to Chadian President Idriss Deby. Meanwhile, the Justice and Equality Movement, one of Darfur's two main rebel groups, said on its Web site Wednesday that the military has in the last four days bombed and completely destroyed eight villages in Darfur. No other details of the attacks were provided, and it was not immediately possible to independently verify the report. It was not clear if the bombing was reported to the cease-fire monitors.
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AN Australian national jailed in Lebanon for terrorist activities will be interviewed over a shooting attack on a Sydney police station upon his release, New South Wales Premier Bob Carr said today. 
A suspected Islamic extremist believed linked to a group that planned attacks on key targets in Madrid was found dead in his prison cell in the northern Spanish city of Zaragoza after apparently hanging himself, prison officials told AFP. 
Immigration Minister Rita Verdonk is moving to deport three Muslim clerics because of accusations they represent a threat to public order and national security.
U.S. police have captured the head of a notorious Honduran youth gang who is wanted at home for the killing of 28 people in a bus attack last December that shocked Central America. The Department of Homeland Security said 
Police said Thursday they thwarted planned attacks on an airport, malls, a church and U.S. troops with the arrests of three members of an al-Qaida linked terror group who allegedly came to the Philippines to train Muslim militants to make bombs. The two Indonesians and a Malaysian - all alleged 
Two gunmen stormed government offices in Srinagar, the summer capital of Indian-administered Kashmir, sparking a three-hour siege Thursday that resulted in seven deaths -- including the two gunmen -- police officials said. Police killed the gunmen, who are suspected Islamic militants, ending the siege. Three security forces and two civilians died in the violence.
Three people have been killed in clashes between Shia and Sunni Muslims in a northern Nigerian city. Fighting broke out when a Shia group attacked Sunnis at a mosque in the city of Sokoto, in front of the Sultan of Sokoto's palace. Police say they made several arrests after the violence, which follows the killing of a Shia last weekend. The BBC's Ibrahim Dosara in Sokoto says Shia are a minority among the predominantly Sunni population. Nigeria's 130 million people are roughly equally divided between Muslims in the north and Christians in the south. Correspondents say that poverty drives rival groups to compete for scarce resources, such as land. 
The government on Wednesday launched a crackdown against radical Islamists, banning two organisations for their alleged involvement in anarchic and subversive activities across the country, and arresting an alleged extremist leader. The Ministry of Home Affairs announced the ban on 
A car bomber drove into a parking lot inside police headquarters in Saddam Hussein's hometown and detonated explosives on Thursday, killing at least 15 people and wounding 22, police and witnesses said. The massive blast in Tikrit set ablaze 20 cars and sent clouds of smoke into the sky. At least 10 charred bodies could be scene laying on the ground. Police Lt. Sha'alan Allawi said the bomber drove a vehicle into a parking lot inside the police compound before detonating the explosives. Several ambulances ferried casualties to a local hospital.
Rebels ambushed Sudanese troops and Sudan's military bombed and destroyed eight villages in Darfur, officials said Wednesday, detailing the latest reported violations of a largely ignored cease-fire in the western region of Sudan. The rebel ambush reportedly took place on Tuesday in Graida, a town about 100 kilometers south of Nyala, the capital of South Darfur state, one of the three states that make up Darfur, a region roughly the size of France, said Ahmat Allam-mi, a member of a commission monitoring the cease-fire. The government has reported the attack to the commission, but African Union monitors in Darfur have not yet been able to investigate the report, said Allam-mi, who is also an adviser to Chadian President Idriss Deby. Meanwhile, the Justice and Equality Movement, one of Darfur's two main rebel groups, said on its Web site Wednesday that the military has in the last four days bombed and completely destroyed eight villages in Darfur. No other details of the attacks were provided, and it was not immediately possible to independently verify the report. It was not clear if the bombing was reported to the cease-fire monitors.
