Conveniently packaged PETA-heads finally available at your local market!
PROVIDENCE, R.I. -- People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) member Chris Link of Norfolk, Va., top, adjusts the cellophane covering on the costume of demonstrator Dezeray Rubinchik of Philadelphia, top right, during a protest in front of the Statehouse, in Providence, R.I. The protest, in which three people placed themselves in containers resembling supermarket meat trays, was meant to compare eating meat with cannibalism. PETA member Karolina Colwill of Sioux Falls, S.D., appears center. (06/06/05 AP photo)
To think, some lurkers actually thought those gamy buttocks recipes were a joke (see LGF coming clean here)and here.
#4
I have a better idea. Everyone send then $1000 dollars of Monopoly money and their favorite receipes for meat dishes. The more we get out how truly insane they are, the less money they will get.
#5
it doesn't work that way, silent brick. Gotta give PETA a thumbs up for creativity and making the system work for them. It's too bad they went political and wacky. They could do a lot of good if they set realistic goals.
Posted by: Mike ||
06/25/2005 7:17 Comments ||
Top||
#7
Hot dogs are packaged fully cooked. PETA are packaged half-baked.
Posted by: Tom ||
06/25/2005 9:28 Comments ||
Top||
#8
The one in the middle looks kinda cute. I wonder how she tastes?
Posted by: Hannibal L ||
06/25/2005 9:32 Comments ||
Top||
#9
Gromky, I'm not a believer in "ignore it and it'll go away". Why would you asssume that publicizing this ridiculous event would work for PETA rather than against them? The fact is, lack of media exposure for their more ridiculous stunts and claims is what allows this insane cult to get away with pretending that it is a legitimate animal welfare organization. These bizarre actions are designed to intimidate a relatively small audience, not attract a large one. Stunts like this are aimed at a specific and usually rather small audience, in this case, the crowd at the Providence Statehouse. Exposing it to a wider audience is what PETA does not want, and something they have always been able to count on, thanks to the concious complicity of the media.
#11
I dunno 2b...there's something rotten with PETA. News is the Carolinas had been letting PETA run some animal shelters. It turns out PETA was involved in mass euthenasia, as opposed to finding homes for the animals. The numbers I heard (and I should check up on this) was around 6000 animals killed with only a few hundred animals placed in homes. That seems way out of line to me. It was so bad that PETA has been removed from running the shelters. Question - is this a unique case or does it pont to something in their core that's "not right"?
Posted by: Rex Mundi ||
06/25/2005 10:21 Comments ||
Top||
#12
Don't eat PETA members, they likely have Mad Human Disease. On another note, are they halal?
#14
Rex - sadly, I agree. I started sending my money to the Doris Day Animal Legue a long time ago. They don't get the publicity, but they did accomplish realistic goals that made a difference for animals.
AC - somehow I don't think you've ever been involved in marketing or fund raising. If you want to hurt PETA, publicize what they don't want you to hear, instead of what they do. The message here is don't eat meat, and they are happy that you are publicizing it for them. The message may not reach you - but it's all a numbers game and you are increasing their reach and thus their percentage of success goes up.
If you want to hurt PETA, publicize what YOU want people to know about them - like the story yesterday about their euthanizing animals, their lack of success in obtaining moderate goals and the proportion of money they use for administration v/s for the animals or their political hackery that serves no benefit to animals and their terrorist acts.
#15
AC - somehow I don't think you've ever been involved in marketing or fund raising.
Excuse me, it quite arrogant to assume that a position different from yours is the simple result of ignorance. You could not be more wrong on that score and I think you are ignoring some of the subtelties of marketing and public relations. I ran for office twice, and won, and I have been involved in any number of publicity campaigns and promotional activities for many years.
In this case, the stunt is so ridiculous and over the top that publicizing it will work against the instigators. That PETA imagines that it will work for them is not relevant, they are not infallible. In particular, at the local level, they still have a habit of assuming that a cooperative media will usually portray their activities in the most favorable light.
Beyond that, as I mentioned earlier, a stunt like this is audience-specific. The objective is not the widest possible audience, but the highest possible impact on the target audience.
In this case, the target audience is probably the internal support network, those who are already committed to the PETA position. It is more in the nature of a fund-raising stunt than an attempt to persuade the larger public of anything.
In fact, in terms of the larger audience, this and the accompanying comments are precisely what they don't want people to see. Taking it outside the target audience defeats its purpose, just as showing pictures of inflammatory anti-war signs defeats those who present them.
PETA is preaching to its own choir with this. Those outside the sanctuary need to know what they are saying.
#16
It does happen where people are standed on an island, boat (without resources) and they end up eating each other! I prefer white meat/ turkey.
plenty of TURKEYS out there ~~Bon Apatit.
What about those all you can eat buffet?
Andrea Jackson
Posted by: Andrea Jackson ||
06/25/2005 12:59 Comments ||
Top||
#17
I dare them to do this on certain islands in Indonesia.....
#22
...and another thing - shouldn't all that meat be refridgerated? mmmmmmmm, long-pig.
Posted by: Rex Mundi ||
06/25/2005 16:23 Comments ||
Top||
#23
...and another thing - shouldn't all that meat be refridgerated? mmmmmmmm, long-pig.
Posted by: Rex Mundi ||
06/25/2005 16:23 Comments ||
Top||
#24
Whenever I get something in the mail from the Dummycrats, the Brady Bunch ( Hand Gun Control) or PETA, I send them the adresses of my friends who will not respond or will respond negatively. What this does is force them to spend money on forms and postage to people who will not be receptive to their advances. BWAHAHAHAHA.
Posted by: Deacon Blues ||
06/25/2005 18:40 Comments ||
Top||
#25
ac - I'm sorry that I offended you. However, I'm sure that running for office is quite different than what PETA is trying to do. In politics, there is such a thing as negative publicity - as your target audience is making a choice between candidates. Tarnishing one steals votes from one and gives to another.
However, PETA is trying to make the case that eating meat is wrong. It may seem over the top to you, but you aren't going to stop eating meat and you aren't going to join PETA anyway. So you are completely irrelevant to them. However, their message will resonate with a certain percentage of people and make them feel bad about eating meat and send them money. They are trying to reach THOSE people - not you.
Go ahead an shove a put down in my face, however, I'm not wrong. PETA understands that by doing outrageous stunts, it gets people talking and you can't get NEW converts if people don't know you exist.
It's like the car advertisements on TV or in the paper - they are obnoxious or invisible - unless you are in the market for a car. If I'm selling a piece of junk - my goal is to reach those somebodies who, for whatever reason, are willing to buy. Just cause you don't want it doesn't mean someone else will. And that's who I'm looking for.
#27
Damn, I wish I'd known about this before. I'm close enough to have paid them a visit - while chomping on a big steak and cheese or sausage and peppers sub.
#29
PETA's message goes well beyond wanting people to stop eating meat.
Car companies have competitors, not opponents. The crucial difference is that one's competitors, in general, do not directly rebutt or attack one's message. In politics and its close cousin, political activism, opposition does exist. Unopposed, PETA's message will not disappear, it will gain credibility, just as an opposed candidate or party is assured of success.
Is PETA's message so convincing that the only way to counter it is to keep it out of the marketplace of ideas? Does ignoring them really hurt their PR efforts? Everyone who is the slightest bit susceptible to their message is already aware of it. The absence of opposition will not make them less likely to accept the PETA position; quite the opposite in fact.
#32
The absence of opposition will not make them less likely to accept the PETA position; quite the opposite in fact.
I agree with you on that point. However, this photograph is advertising PETA's position quite well. They are making their point that what you see in the packages at the grocery store are beings that have been killed, not just a piece of steak.
Let me just say that if I had to kill my own food, I'd be a vegetarian tomorrow. I was once a PETA member and didn't eat meat because I felt sorry for the way animals are treated on the way to the slaughter house. I gave it up because it was too hard, but I still feel bad everytime I look at a cute little cow. And I never eat veal and can't imagine why anyone would want a calf to be kept in a box.
If you want to hurt PETA, you have to publicize the other things that they do with their money besides support animals.
#34
If you agree with the stunt's message, 2b, why would you argue against publicizing it?
One of the oldest tricks in the activist book is to persuade the opposition that their efforts are just helping you get the message out.
Extending this to its logical conclusion, PETA and other Vegan activists should simply ignore the meat industry and its PR campaigns, lest they help its marketing and become accessories to murder.
This assumes, as we have seen, that you think your message is convincing enough that any kind of attention will work to your advantage.
#35
I don't think that the "meat=cannibalism" message is really going to resonate very well with those who are not already pretty far gone down the path of Vegan anti-humanism.
Some of their other efforts, by comparison, can look almost reasonable to those who are not aware of the gang's full agenda.
#36
I'm not sure I understand your point. If you say that I am trying to help PETA, then you are mistaken. I used to be a PETA supporter because I received in the mail their publicity flyers of downer cows and veal calves and horrific pictures of slaughter houses. I was happily eating meat until they made me feel gulity that I supported that type of cruelty. Had I not gotten PETA's flyers and magazines, I would never have felt guilty, would never have sent them money.
That's the basis of my point. These pictures will resonate with those who feel guilty about eating meat. You can publish them if you want to. I really don't care. But they WILL make a certain percentage of people squirm and choose the vegan meal. Their goal is to reach those people. The more people they reach, the happier they are and the more people who will send them money.
I stopped supporting PETA when I realized as I said in a previous post, that they were more about raising money for PETA and publicity, than they were for helping animals. When I really gave them the boot was when I grew up and made the connection that ...as the Beatles say..."you you want a revolution, well, you know, we all want to change the world. ..yadda, yadda..but if you are talking about destruction, you can count me out". Peta supports ALF and ALF are terrorists. Also peta began getting involved in politics that had little to do with stopping cruelty to animals and had more to do with the ideology of their boards. In the end, I chose to send my money to groups who accomplish reasonable goals within the society in which we live.
I'm not against eating meat. I'm against cruelty to animals. I see a distinction there. I'd like animals to be slaughtered as humanely as possibly and I care if animals are mistreated. Yes, I wish I didn't have to kill my dinner. But that has little to do with the underlying argument.
#37
I have to call it a night. But just for the record, I've been making this same point on rantburg long before the PETA issue came up.
I'm sorry my first post came across much more rude sounding than I ever intended it to - nevertheless it was still rude and I apologize.
My point is this. Millions of children avoid stepping on cracks because it has been repeated often enough that it can break your mothers back. Of course it doesn't break your mother's back but both you and I have avoided stepping on a crack many times in our lives.
The whole purpose of advertising is to repeat and gain recognition. The whole purpose of propaganda is to repeat a lie and have it gain recognition. Everytime you repeat the lie in order to counter it - you are supporting the propaganda. Why, because a new somebody somewhere will buy into it.
Celebrities love publicity negative or positive - because it is publicity - recognition. Nobody cares about a celebrity they don't know about.
I'm not arguing your point that you once the lie is out there that it needs to be counter attacked or it will gain in strength. But it does little good to say "stepping on a crack does not break your mother's back" - because it just reinforces the idea of "crack breaks back.
If you want people to step on a crack then you need to get out the saying that "everytime someone steps on a crack, an angel gets it's wings."
Ok...so I'm tired ...but my point is still valid, nonetheless. I know these posts are way too long.. but I think you can handle it :-) Goodnight.
Five rebel fighters of the banned Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) were killed and one Turkish security guard was injured during an armed clash yesterday, officials said. The clash took place in a heavily forested area near the town of Bingol in Turkey's mainly Kurdish southeast region. The officials said some 2,000 soldiers were seeking to flush out between 15 and 20 guerrillas active in the area. The operation was launched on Thursday and continued yesterday. "We expect the number of dead PKK (rebels) to increase by evening," a military source in the region said.
Posted by: Fred ||
06/25/2005 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[3 views]
Top|| File under:
LADAH: A truck carrying bombs, rockets, missiles and other weapons exploded in Ladah sub-division of South Waziristan on Saturday, killing the driver and his assistant. A local official told Daily Times that the truck was passing the Chutkhail area of Ladah when it suddenly exploded. â We do not know the cause of the explosion, but we are investigating,â the official said.
The bodies of the driver and his assistant were mutilated. A local resident said the explosion took place near a base of militants, which was destroyed during a military operation last year. âWe interviewed local residents and they said the weapons were covered with husk and preliminary investigation says the truck was fired resulting in a fire, which caught the truck,â the official said. It was not yet known where the weapons were coming from and what the destination was, the official said, he added. Residents said the blast was so powerful that rockets and missiles kept flying in the air and falling in nearby fields for hours. âThank God, they did not hit any homes and no civilians were hurt,â he said.
Damned good reporting. Except that they forgot to say whether it was an army truck or Mahmoud's Explosives Transport Company or a couple of shifty-eyed guyz with turbans secretly transporting bombs, missiles, rockets, and assorted other delicacies of the season from Miranshah to Tank...
Posted by: Fred ||
06/25/2005 23:49 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[5 views]
Top|| File under:
"There are a lot of people who say that Osama bin Laden is here in Pakistan. All that I would like to tell them, please come and show us where he is or tell us where he is. That is not the case,"
Posted by: john ||
06/25/2005 14:51 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[4 views]
Top|| File under:
#1
"He hasn't stopped by for a glass of tea in a long time."
A suicide car bomber blew himself up Saturday outside an Iraqi police officer's home north of Baghdad, killing at least six people and wounding at least a dozen, police said. The suicide bomber, accompanied by another five cars loaded with heavily armed insurgents, slammed into a wall outside the home of Lt. Muthana al-Shaker — a member of a special forces unit — in Samarra, 60 miles north of Baghdad, said Lt. Qassim Mohammed of the Samarra police. All those killed were on the street when the attack occurred. Al-Shaker was not injured, Mohammed said. Two insurgents were killed when a roadside bomb they were planting outside al-Shaker's house after the attack blew up, he said. That bomb was intended to kill police and emergency services members when they arrived at the scene, Mohammed added.
Posted by: Fred ||
06/25/2005 09:44 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[5 views]
Top|| File under:
So Mufti Rahman was Mufti Shamzai's replacement as head of Binori..
More than 10,000 mourners have attended the funeral of a Sunni Muslim cleric in the Pakistani city of Karachi amid protests at his murder. Mufti Attiqur Rahman was shot in his car by unidentified gunmen on Thursday. A second man in the vehicle died later. About 1,000 policeman were deployed for the funeral of Mufti Rahman, 55, and his friend, Mohammed Irshad. The funeral passed off generally peacefully but Mr Hussain, Pakistan's junior minister for religious affairs, said he was set upon by an angry mob as he said funeral prayers at the Binori town mosque and was trapped in a building nearby. "I am in bad shape. I am bleeding," he said when the BBC News website contacted him by mobile phone. He could be heard urging the authorities to send help on another line. "Please come with an armoured car... I am bleeding. My life is in danger. Please help me, get me out of here." A police official told Associated Press Mr Hussain had now been rescued.
Mufti Rahman had been deputising for Mufti Nizamuddin Shamzai, who was murdered in Karachi in May last year, sparking riots. A number of activists from Mufti Rahman's madrassah, or religious school, came out on the streets in the Site area of the city on Friday and pelted vehicles with stones and set up roadblocks but were dispersed by police. Mufti Rahman had been returning from delivering Koran lessons at a city mosque on Thursday evening when two gunmen on a motorcycle fired shots into his vehicle, police said. Mufti Rahman died hours later and Mr Irshad of his injuries on Friday. The cleric's 10-year-old son, Imadur, was wounded and is in a stable condition.
Posted by: Paul Moloney ||
06/25/2005 00:10 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[3 views]
Top|| File under:
#1
"Any where, if there is one American soldier present, suicide bombing is permissible under Islam" Dr. Aamir was quoted by these sources as having said on record. "There are times when the truth must be told," he added in one remark. Link
Posted by: john ||
06/25/2005 15:15 Comments ||
Top||
#2
"I am in bad shape. I am bleeding," he said when the BBC News website contacted him by mobile phone.
"Please come with an armoured car... I am bleeding. My life is in danger. Please help me, get me out of here."
Posted by: john ||
06/25/2005 15:17 Comments ||
Top||
#3
shades of Austin Powers: "I am in quite a bit of pain here"
Posted by: Frank G ||
06/25/2005 17:22 Comments ||
Top||
Ice cream was better option
Reported in Khabrain, the Allama Iqbal Town explosion that destroyed three buildings and killed 29 was witness to strange behaviour among the local people. The truck unloading the gas cylinders went many feet up in the air when the cylinders exploded. All around the buildings property was destroyed including one truck loaded with ice cream. People went for the ice cream and started gorging themselves as people buried under the debris kept pleading with them to rescue them. As they ate ice cream they noted that a copy of the Quran was miraculously recovered undamaged from the debris.
Wasim Akram in âtrubbelâ
Reported in Khabrain, Wasim Akram allowed someone to put red colour on his forehead during his visit to his fatherâs birthplace in a village in Amritsar in India. The reaction of the ulema in Pakistan was recorded to put Wasim Akram in trouble. Jamaat Islami leader and MNA Abdul Malik said that Wasim Akram had become an apostate after accepting a Hindu tilak on his forehead. Maulana Sarfraz Naeemi said that Wasim Akram had wounded the hearts of the Muslims by letting Hindus put a tilak on his forehead. Ahle Hadith leader Ibtisam Elahi Zaheer said that Wasim Akram had given a chance of shuddi (reconversion) to the Hindus.
Al Qaeda agent caught in Karachi
Daily Pakistan reported that one Sirajul Haq was caught from a madrasa in Malir Karachi on reports from Afghanistan. Sirajul Haq was an Al Qaeda gent who had killed Afghan commander Abdul Haq on the orders Osama bin Laden.
Al Qaeda bans music in Waziristan
Reported in Jang, pamphlets issued by Al Qaeda told the shops and hotels of Miran Shah in North Waziristan that all video and audio cassettes should be destroyed and those who showed pictures and played music after five days would be dealt with.
Importing vegetables from India
Columnist Abdul Qadir Hassan wrote in Jang that the latest action by a banker prime minister to import vegetables from India was not only a bad decision undermining the agriculture of Punjab but was also a badge of dishonour. India had heavily subsidised its agriculture and was forcing Pakistan to open trade to undermine Pakistanâs farmers. It was a great dishonour to be thus surrendering to India. It was a tilak of kalank (dishonour) which was recently put on his forehead by a cricketer (Wasim Akram) when he visited his village in India.
The great âshutarmurghâ fraud in Fort Abbas
Reported in Khabrain, the people of Fort Abbas complained that a company of Okara sold them small ostrich birds for 8,000 and took them back after three months for 18,000. The business caught on and the inhabitants of the city bought 60 lakhs worth of baby shutarmurgh, but after a few moths the company disappeared and the buyers were left with dead birds. The birds were said to be imported from Canada and they fell sick after being subjected to cold weather on the way. The birds were okay at the time of buying but sickened and died within three months.
âIndia, get ready for nuclear war!â
According to Nawa-e-Waqt Mr Majid Nizami said at Hamdard Hall Lahore that Pakistan should tell India to either hold a plebiscite in Kashmir or get ready for nuclear war. He said that those who did not tire of talking about the âcore issueâ were now talking about everything except Kashmir. He said basant had been accepted by them; now they were also celebrating holi and diwali.
American-Pakistani clericâs wisdom
Reported in daily Pakistan, America-based cleric Maulana Zakiuddin Sharafi said in Lahore that the religious parties should not quarrel over democracy but tend to the spread of an Islamic system. He said if the clergy compromised with the government on some matters many problems would be solved. He said sectarianism was a fearful problem and was spread by Americans and the Jews. He said marathon and basant was also their doing. Cutting back on armament on the recommendation of a foreign power was against Islam. He said that in America some crazy groups had stepped outside the pale of Islam while accepting imamat of women. He said in America 90 percent Muslims were getting coloured by local culture but they were unhappy after 9/11. He said difference between jihad and qitaal should be maintained.
Mammoth meeting of sobs
Reported in Khabrain a mammoth meeting of Dawat Islami (Green Turbans) Islamabad ended in sobs as those who attended raised laments about their bad faith and begged for forgiveness from Allah. Half a million Barelvi Muslims gathered in the capital city and heard sermons which told them that Muslims had forsaken their true goal and had forgotten the care of the Hereafter. The sermons also told them that they should not follow Yuhud-o-Nisara (Jews and Hindus). The atmosphere was extremely spiritual, according to the newspaper.
Girl can marry at 15
Daily Pakistan reported that the Lahore High Court let off a man for marrying a girl of 15, holding that a Muslim girl could marry at less than 15 if she had attained puberty. The court said it was not happy about girls marrying after running away from home.
Posted by: Fred ||
06/25/2005 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[3 views]
Top|| File under:
#1
As they ate ice cream they noted that a copy of the Quran was miraculously recovered undamaged from the debris.
Sudan dismissed yesterday as âunfoundedâ claims by rebels that it carried out an aerial bombing campaign in eastern Red Sea state that resulted in many civilian casualties.
"Nope. Nope. Wudn't us."
âThe government is committed to protecting property and lives of citizens in the event that rebels threaten security and stability,â Information Minister Abdul Basit Sebdarat told the official SUNA news agency. He added that the government âdid not use aircraft, it did not carry out any aerial bombings in any region in eastern Sudan, saying the rebel claims were ânot correct.â Two rebel groups in the region had said that the government has launched an intensive aerial bombing campaign on civilian targets in eastern Red Sea and accused it of pursuing a policy similar to that used in the Western Darfur region.
The groups, which attacked government positions south of Port Sudan on Sunday and claim to have made significant advances since, said the bombing began in the Barka Valley on Thursday. They added that it resulted in a large but unknown number of civilian casualties who filled hospitals in Port Sudan and the town of Tokar, 120 kilometers south. A Sudanese military spokesman acknowledged that troops were active in the area, but insisted that the operation was aimed at combing the region and âpursuing remnants of rebel forces that had attacked Doleib Yai in Tokar.â The Eastern Front was created only in February by eastern Sudanâs two main dissident factions, the Beja Congress and Free Lions. It launched its first major military operation against the government on Sunday near Tokar. Both the eastern and western groups claim their regions are being marginalized by the Arab-dominated government in Khartoum. The government accuses Asmara of providing military support to the rebels, charges Eritrea denies. The new fighting has sparked fears that a second Darfur-type conflict will open up in Sudan even as peace talks between the western rebels and Khartoum are under way in Nigeria.
Posted by: Fred ||
06/25/2005 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[4 views]
Top|| File under:
#1
Free Lions
As opposed to the even more dreaded Pay-Per-View Lions?..
Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski ||
06/25/2005 1:17 Comments ||
Top||
A group of top Taleban commanders appeared to have slipped the net yesterday as Afghan and US forces wrapped up one of the bloodiest offensives since the fall of the regime, officials said. Defense officials in Kabul said earlier that soldiers had surrounded four Taleban chiefs holed up in southern Afghanistanâs mountains, including the brother-in-law of fugitive militant leader Mulla Mohammad Omar. The US military said it was now engaged in a hearts-and-minds drive to bring medical care to a district devastated in the battles and rebuild a mosque, which was destroyed by enemy fighters. âIt looks like the fighting has certainly died off and whatever enemy forces that were in the area that we didnât kill or capture might have fled,â US military spokesman Lt. Col. Jerry OâHara told AFP. âWe still donât have visibility on exactly how many fighters were involved.â
The Taleban had always denied that Mulla Dadullah, a key member of the Taleban leadership council, Mulla Brader, said to be Mulla Omarâs relative by marriage, or any other of its commanders were under siege. âI donât know about the Taleban commanders who were said to be surrounded,â Kandahar province security commander Gen. Mohammed Salem told AFP. Troops were still on the ground searching for remnants of a rebel force which last week captured the district headquarters of Mian Nishin, which lies at the violent juncture of Zabul, Uruzgan and Kandahar provinces, he added. The four-day mission to take out Taleban âsafe havensâ was one of the bloodiest since the fundamentalist regime was ousted by a US-led air campaign after failing to surrender Al-Qaeda chief Osama Bin Laden.
Afghan officials placed the death toll of militants at 132 while the US military estimate of enemy deaths stood at 54, with 22 captured. Many were killed when US warplanes and helicopters supported by British jets launched an 11-hour bombardment on Tuesday. Three policemen were killed and three others wounded. Taleban militants kidnapped 31 people when they took over Mian Nishin. They killed eight of the hostages for allegedly collaborating with US forces and later released the rest. Afghan officials are trying to curb a strong resurgence by the fundamentalist militia before the countryâs first post-Taleban elections in less than three monthsâ time.
Posted by: Fred ||
06/25/2005 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[4 views]
Top|| File under:
#1
Well Goooolly. {throws hands in air} looks like they got away again. Jeesh.
Somebody needs to sit down and figure out HOW these guys are getting away in these situations and figure out a way to prevent it. How about you get some guys with common sense instead of credentials - apparently the latter don't have the former.
If it's bribes - then find a way to have them bribe the wrong fellow, or find a way to kill those who accept the bribes, even after the fact, and make it public, and make sure their families don't get the money. Money is no good to a dead man. Maybe we have a mole inside the highest levels, giving the info away. Maybe they can penetrate our communications. Whatever it is, there certainly should be enough of a pattern available by now to have a pretty damn good idea.
Instead of walking away empty handed next time, how about putting someone with some can-do on this and make sure it doesn't happen again. And whoever you get, make sure it's not from the same pool you are already working from.
Maulana Irshadul Haq, who was injured in an attack in which Shaikhul Hadis of Jamia Binoria Mosque and Madrassa, SITE Town, Mufti Atiqur Rehman was killed, died on Friday. The funerals of both clerics were held after Asr prayers. Mufti Atiqur Rehman, his son Ammar and Maulana Irshadul Haq were shot at behind Sindh Secretariat on Thursday night. Ammar is in stable condition.
Sporadic violence erupted in several localities of the city on Friday. Protesters brunt tyres and pelted vehicles with stones. Law enforcement agencies dispersed the protesters and controlled the situation. The Sindh government has announced a Rs 2 million-reward for information leading to the arrest of the killers of Mufti Rehman and Maulana Irshad. About 15,000 mourners attended both funerals. Authorities had deployed about 1,000 policemen for the funerals, but there was no violence at the ceremony. Online reported on Friday that security had been increased in the city to avoid any incidents. More than 16 people were arrested in the city for resorting to violence and disrupting traffic.
Posted by: Fred ||
06/25/2005 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[3 views]
Top|| File under:
#1
popcorn, please?
Posted by: Frank G ||
06/25/2005 10:19 Comments ||
Top||
Law enforcement agencies unearthed a plan for suicide attacks on mosques of various religious sects and arrested four would-be suicide bombers. The arrests were made after the interrogation of Qari Arshad Satti, imam of a mosque on the outskirts of Mansehra a few days ago, sources told Daily Times. Intelligence agencies traced Satti using the video film of the Bari Imam procession, sources said. Law enforcement officials consequently took Satti into custody and began interrogation at an undisclosed location. "In light of the investigation, law enforcement agencies conducted another raid in Manshera district and arrested four persons. All of them are between 18 to 20 years of age and study in a religious seminary," the sources said. During the interrogation the suspect said that he and his accomplices had planned suicide attacks on mosques of various religious sects, one of the mosques being in Jehlum Cantt, sources added.
Posted by: Fred ||
06/25/2005 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[3 views]
Top|| File under:
#1
Qari Arshad Satti Asshatti..sorta has roll to it.
A team investigating the Bari Imam bombing claimed that it had tightened the noose around Chota Asif and Bara Usman, member of outlawed religious outfit Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and masterminds of the suicide attack, and maintained that they would be arrested in a couple of days. Islamabad and Punjab Police made raids in Jhang and Multan districts to apprehend the two masterminds of the plan.
Posted by: Fred ||
06/25/2005 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[4 views]
Top|| File under:
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - A suicide car bomber and gunmen ambushed a convoy carrying female U.S. Marines in Fallujah, killing two Marines and leaving another four American troops presumed dead, the military said Friday. At least one woman was killed and 11 of 13 wounded were female.
The terror group al-Qaida in Iraq claimed it carried out the bombing, one of the single deadliest attacks against the Marines - and against women - in this country. The high number of female casualties spoke to the lack of any real front lines in Iraq, where U.S. troops are battling a raging insurgency and American women soldiers have taken part in more close-quarters combat than in any previous military conflict.
The women were part of a team of Marines who were assigned to various checkpoints around Fallujah. The Marines were returning to their base, Camp Fallujah, when the ambush took place Thursday night near the eastern entrance to the city, 40 miles west of Baghdad. At least one of the dead Marines in Thursday's attack was a woman, as were 11 of the 13 wounded. The woman was killed when the car bomber attacked the vehicle in which she was traveling.
Posted by: Steve White ||
06/25/2005 00:00 ||
Comments ||
Link ||
[4 views]
Top|| File under:
#1
Sorry iff I'm too traditional or conservative for my own good but I still say women per se have no place in the combat zone. or near the combat zone.
#2
It is sadly apparant that we needed to deal harshly with these people in the beginning. The terrorists obviously have plenty of friends in the Sunni Triangle. The terrorists will shoot their wad to create as much chaos and death to break our will. After all, they have friends in the senate.
Posted by: Alaska Paul ||
06/25/2005 1:25 Comments ||
Top||
#3
God bless them, they sure put it on the line. They're heros who gave it all for freedom, ours and the Iraqis.
Posted by: Red Dog ||
06/25/2005 1:37 Comments ||
Top||
#4
Specific reasons for this type of targeting:
The females accompany the males to do the searches of females durign raids and checkpoints.
And Joe, the problem is there are not front line, nor rear areas. THe cowards we are fighting kill their own women and children pretty indiscriminately. And they got lucky and managed to hit a bunch of Marines this time.
Thus goes the pride of Arab Manhood - killing and maiming women, via suicide bombs.
This is all the more reason to castrate and emasculate any and all convicted Al Qaeda found responsible for this - before they are execute them by hanging (over a pig pen). Send them to Allah with their own testicles and penis in their mouths. And be sure to post pictures of it to their relatives. They'll get the message.
#5
This is all the more reason to castrate and emasculate any and all convicted Al Qaeda found responsible for this - before they are execute them by hanging (over a pig pen). Send them to Allah with their own testicles and penis in their mouths. And be sure to post pictures of it to their relatives. They'll get the message.
Sounds like a great career. Can I offer server space? ;o)
#6
"They (Women Marines) don't have a nickname, and they don't need one. They get their basic training in a Marine atmosphere, at a Marine Post. They inherit the traditions of the Marines. They are Marines."
(Lieutenant General Thomas Holcomb, USMC 1943.)
Posted by: Rafael ||
06/25/2005 3:19 Comments ||
Top||
#9
AP, I fear you are correct. The terrorists have quite a few friends in the Senate. Teddy Kennedy being the Number One. I really wish I could adress the Senate and remind each and every one that they only speak for the people who elected them, period. They do not speak for the USA. The populace voted in a majority for the current administration. Only the President speakes for the US. I would tell Mr. Kennedy that , even though he has some faults, the President has never got drunk, run his car off a bridge, and drowned a young woman. Shut the fuck up!
Posted by: Deacon Blues ||
06/25/2005 18:53 Comments ||
Top||
#10
"Thus goes the pride of Arab Manhood - killing and maiming women, via suicide bombs."
Right, they know what happens when they take on our women directly: Raven 42.
A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
dominated Mexico for six years.
Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
Five rebel fighters of the banned Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) were killed and one Turkish security guard was injured during an armed clash yesterday, officials said. The clash took place in a heavily forested area near the town of Bingol in Turkey's mainly Kurdish southeast region. The officials said some 2,000 soldiers were seeking to flush out between 15 and 20 guerrillas active in the area. The operation was launched on Thursday and continued yesterday. "We expect the number of dead PKK (rebels) to increase by evening," a military source in the region said.
LADAH: A truck carrying bombs, rockets, missiles and other weapons exploded in Ladah sub-division of South Waziristan on Saturday, killing the driver and his assistant. A local official told Daily Times that the truck was passing the Chutkhail area of Ladah when it suddenly exploded. â We do not know the cause of the explosion, but we are investigating,â the official said.
A suicide car bomber blew himself up Saturday outside an Iraqi police officer's home north of Baghdad, killing at least six people and wounding at least a dozen, police said. The suicide bomber, accompanied by another five cars loaded with heavily armed insurgents, slammed into a wall outside the home of Lt. Muthana al-Shaker — a member of a special forces unit — in Samarra, 60 miles north of Baghdad, said Lt. Qassim Mohammed of the Samarra police. All those killed were on the street when the attack occurred. Al-Shaker was not injured, Mohammed said. Two insurgents were killed when a roadside bomb they were planting outside al-Shaker's house after the attack blew up, he said. That bomb was intended to kill police and emergency services members when they arrived at the scene, Mohammed added.
Ice cream was better option
Sudan dismissed yesterday as âunfoundedâ claims by rebels that it carried out an aerial bombing campaign in eastern Red Sea state that resulted in many civilian casualties. 
A group of top Taleban commanders appeared to have slipped the net yesterday as Afghan and US forces wrapped up one of the bloodiest offensives since the fall of the regime, officials said. Defense officials in Kabul said earlier that soldiers had surrounded four Taleban chiefs holed up in southern Afghanistanâs mountains, including the brother-in-law of fugitive militant leader Mulla Mohammad Omar. The US military said it was now engaged in a hearts-and-minds drive to bring medical care to a district devastated in the battles and rebuild a mosque, which was destroyed by enemy fighters. âIt looks like the fighting has certainly died off and whatever enemy forces that were in the area that we didnât kill or capture might have fled,â US military spokesman Lt. Col. Jerry OâHara told AFP. âWe still donât have visibility on exactly how many fighters were involved.â
Maulana Irshadul Haq, who was injured in an attack in which Shaikhul Hadis of Jamia Binoria Mosque and Madrassa, SITE Town, Mufti Atiqur Rehman was killed, died on Friday. The funerals of both clerics were held after Asr prayers. Mufti Atiqur Rehman, his son Ammar and Maulana Irshadul Haq were shot at behind Sindh Secretariat on Thursday night. Ammar is in stable condition. 
Law enforcement agencies unearthed a plan for suicide attacks on mosques of various religious sects and arrested four would-be suicide bombers. The arrests were made after the interrogation of Qari Arshad Satti, imam of a mosque on the outskirts of Mansehra a few days ago, sources told Daily Times. Intelligence agencies traced Satti using the video film of the Bari Imam procession, sources said. Law enforcement officials consequently took Satti into custody and began interrogation at an undisclosed location. "In light of the investigation, law enforcement agencies conducted another raid in Manshera district and arrested four persons. All of them are between 18 to 20 years of age and study in a religious seminary," the sources said. During the interrogation the suspect said that he and his accomplices had planned suicide attacks on mosques of various religious sects, one of the mosques being in Jehlum Cantt, sources added.
A team investigating the Bari Imam bombing claimed that it had tightened the noose around Chota Asif and Bara Usman, member of outlawed religious outfit Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and masterminds of the suicide attack, and maintained that they would be arrested in a couple of days. Islamabad and Punjab Police made raids in Jhang and Multan districts to apprehend the two masterminds of the plan.
