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Bangladesh
From The Files Of Bangladesh Police Squad
Janajudda cadre shot dead in Jhenidah
JHENIDAH, Oct 26:–An underground Janajudda cadre was shot dead allegedly by his rivals at Gopalpur in Kotchandpur upazila late Tuesday night, reports UNB. Witnesses said Shahin, the victim, was sitting in a tea stall at Gopalpur bazaar when 5 or 7 unidentified men dragged him out at gunpoint at about 11pm. The brutes shot him in his mouth.
Syrian suicide
The body was found near Kagmari haor today. Shahin recently joined Janajudda deserting Purbo Banglar Communist Party and concentrated his operation in Meherpur district. Police suspected that his former colleagues killed him.
"Nobody leaves the Purbo Banglar Communist Party alive!"

Convicted fugitive Hazari cadre arrested in Ctg
CHITTAGONG, Oct 26:–Police arrested a convicted fugitive and alleged cadre of the controversial former Parliament Member Joynal Hazari of Feni from the Bakhrabad Gas office in Sholoshahar on Wednesday, reports UNB. Mominullah Sufian, a convicted fugitive in an arm case under Porshuram thana and a cadre of Hazari, was arrested on a tip off, police said, without further details.
"We can say no more"

Mob beats 4 men
A mob beats four persons in the Gaola Bil area under Fakirhat upazila in Bagerhat reportedly while they were escaping after night guards of the area challenged them suspecting them to be robbers early Tuesday.
They do love beating bad guys up
The beaten persons were identified as Nazrul alias Babu Sheikh, 29, Torab Sheikh, 30, and Biren Roy, 28, of village Shurigati under Chitalmari upazila and Shahjahan, 35, of village Gaola under Mollahat upazila in Bagerhat. The police rescued the four from the mob and admitted to Fakirhat Upazila Health Complex showing them arrested under section 54.
Not Section 54!
The condition of Nazrul and Torab was stated to be serious.
On the other hand, the victims’ family members claimed that the four were the prey of their rivals over shrimp enclosures of the area.
Shrimp wars just doesn't have the same ring to it as cattle wars

6 buffaloes killed as truck skids off road
Six buffaloes were killed in a road accident at Chhota Kumira under Sitakundo upazila in Chittagong on the Dhaka-Chittagong Highway on Tuesday. The police and witnesses said the accident took place in the morning when a buffalo-laden truck from Dhaka skidded off the road and plunged into a roadside ditch.
"Mooooooooo..CRASH! ...."rosebud"..."
Trader Abdullah purchased 13 buffaloes from Gabtali in Dhaka.
Two for one special at Chittagong McDonalds

2 JP activists bombed to death in Narail
Oct 26: At least two activists of the Jatiya Party (JP-Ershad) were killed in a bomb attack at remote Akdiarchar village in southwestern Narail district Wednesday evening. After the double murder, a tense situation was prevailing in the area, sources said. The deceased were identified as Nazrul Islam (50) and Swapan Boiragi, both residents of Kolora union under Narail Sadar upazila.

Witnesses said a gang of miscreants hurled two bombs at them in front of Akdiarchar Club when they were on way home from the local bazaar soon after the Iftar.
"Catch!"
Tariqul Islam, the younger brother of deceased Nazrul Islam told newsmen that the killings might have been sequel to a previous feud. His brother and Swapan were killed by the hired criminals, Tariqul believes. He added that to confirm the death of his brother, miscreants also fired gunshots at him.

Sources said soon after the killing, the locals became agitated and tried to demonstrate along with the bodies.
Bangla car swarm, without the car
Police, however, rushed to the spot and took the bodies to the district police headquarters. When contacted, Narail district police super (SP) Mokbul Hossain admitted the bomb attack and said, "I have sent forces to the spot." Details could not be known till filing this report.
Dread Terror Subrata Bain in city ?
Fugitive underworld don Trimoti Subrata Bain Suvra, is believed to be in the city now to celebrate the Eid-ul-Fitr with his family and friends. Subrata Bain, who has converted to Islam from Christianity, is now named Fateh Ali Khan. Subrata Bain has been implicated in the case relating to the August 21 grenade attacks on an Awami League rally at Bangabandhu Avenue last year.

A source close to Subrata, preferring anonymity, told BDNEWS that he has been staying in the capital for a week now. But the source did not say where the dreaded terror is staying. According to the source, Subrata Bain crossed into Bangladesh through a land port some 15 days ago. "Some influential people provided shelters to Subrata in Bogra, Pabna and Dinajpur on his way to Dhaka. Bain was also provided security and shelter when he entered Dhaka where his wife and children are residing," the source added. The source said that after coming to the capital, Subrata has been keeping in touch with his underworld aides over telephone.

According to the confessional statement of Arman, another top terror, Subrata Bain and Khandakar Nazrul Islam Joy masterminded the grenade attacks on the Awami League rally. The attack left 23 people, including central AL leader Ivy Rahman, killed. The opposition leader Sheikh Hasina escaped death by seconds in the attack. But she suffered serious injuries in her ear.

Another source added notorious terrors Zishan alias Monti and Rony of Maghbazar also returned to the country from India recently, to celebrate Eid with their relatives. Zishan, implicated in killing two members of DB police, is also a most wanted criminal declared by the Interpol. Zishan and Rony lived at Laketown in Kolkata.

An intelligence official, on condition of anonymity, however, told BDNEWS that they did not have such information. The government declared a bounty of Tk 15 lakh each for the 23 notorious criminals of the capital on December 27, 2001.
Posted by: Steve || 10/27/2005 10:13 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The brutes shot him in his mouth.

Et tu, brutes?
Posted by: Purbo Banglar || 10/27/2005 13:03 Comments || Top||

#2  "Bombed to death" they are getting better writers.
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 10/27/2005 13:24 Comments || Top||

#3  That last bit sounds like something out of the Social column. I was disappointed not to read what everybody was wearing, and the names of the most illustrious guests. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/27/2005 14:04 Comments || Top||

#4  TW, yes, the Bangla police blotter does seem to double as the Society Pages, truly. A regular Who's Who of the Dread Criminal set...
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/27/2005 14:08 Comments || Top||

#5  Subrata better watch his ass, there could be a crossfire any evening, say around 3 AM, with all those thugs in town for the holidays and whatnot.
Posted by: wxjames || 10/27/2005 16:43 Comments || Top||

#6  "Convicted fugitive Hazari cadre arrested in Ctg
CHITTAGONG, Oct 26:–Police arrested a convicted fugitive and alleged cadre of the controversial former Parliament Member Joynal Hazari ... ."

Now I finally know where the Chit is Chittagong!
Posted by: Uleating Wheagum6743 || 10/27/2005 19:27 Comments || Top||


Islamist militants threaten to blow up police stations
I thinbk they've been running about the same headline, with variations on location, for a week...
Islamist militants have threatened to blow up all the police stations of Bangladesh unless Islamic law and Islamic constitution are implemented. They have also threatened to kill a joint district judge of Laxmipur, Abu Sufian.

Our Rajshahi correspondent reports: A Jamaatul Mujahideen Bangladesh (JMB) leader Maulana Hafizur Rahman recently sent a letter containing the above threat posted from Chapainawabganj district which was received by the police commissioner of Rajshahi. Police said, the sender of the letter, Hafizur Rahman, hails from Shibganj in Chapainawabganj district. Naim Ahmed, Rajshahi Metropolitan Police (RMP) Commissioner, said investigation has been started to ascertain whether the letter was actually posted by the above-named Hafizur Rahman. Police have been kept on top alert in the RMP area following the threat.

Our Laxmipur correspondent writes: Manobadhiakar Rakkha O Uddhar Committee also threatened to kill Joint District Judge in a separate letter posted from Khulna by its Khulna regional chief. Md Bazlur Rahman, Nazir of Laxmipur District, filed a case with Laxmipur Police Station in this connection. The security measures in the district were beefed up following the threat.

Our Staff Correspondent from Khulna adds: Panic gripped Pabla village under Daulatpur police station this afternoon when a bomb exploded there. None was, however, hurt in the blast. According to police, the bomb wrapped in a gunny bag fell on the ground from the rooftop of a two-storey building, which resulted in the explosion of the device. One Mahfuza Begum,30, a tenant in the ground floor flat, who was on the rooftop at that time for drying her clothing, fainted at the sound of the blast. The windowpanes of the ground floor flat were broken to pieces by the vibration caused by the blast-sound. Police are interrogating Mahfuza Begum and Uzzal, 20, son of Shaikh Delwar Hossain, who owns the building, to determine how the bomb came on the rooftop. No case has been filed by the police with Daulatpur thana till 8 pm in connection with the incident.

Our Faridpur Correspondent reports: Police arrested the mastermind of the August 17 bomb blasts in Faridpur from the town here yesterday. The arrested is Mizanur Rahman Mukul. During interrogation he confessed his link with the bombings in Faridpur, police sources said.
Posted by: Fred || 10/27/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Nothing sezs Luvin' like good Clintonian Radical Islamists demanding Global Islamist OWG make them more poor than they already are, or in the alternate become yet another North Korea-style unannexed slave-peon province of Commie CHINA.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/27/2005 0:47 Comments || Top||


Britain
We Be Kickin Some Iranian Moolah Butt -- Tony Blair
Tony Blair delivered his strongest warning to Iran last night, saying Teheran would not be allowed to become a "threat to our world security".

He hinted that the West might have to resort to force. The Prime Minister said western allies would meet in the next few days to decide how to react after President Mahmoud Ahmedinejad called for Israel to be "wiped off the map".

Tony Blair felt a 'real sense of revulsion' at the remarks
While the initial response is likely to be an intensification of diplomatic pressure, senior British officials did not rule out the possibility that they could resort to force if Iran continued on its path of radical confrontation.

Speaking at a European summit at Hampton Court, west London, a visibly angry Mr Blair said Iran would be making "a very big mistake" if it believed western leaders were too preoccupied with other issues to deliver a strong response.

Western frustration with Iran has been building up for months, particularly over Teheran's nuclear programme, its support for Palestinian radicals and suspicions that it has passed bomb-making technology to Iraqi insurgents who have killed at least eight British servicemen this year.

Mr Blair's patience finally snapped after hearing Mr Ahmadinejad's harangue at a Teheran conference entitled "The World Without Zionism", at which he declared: "The establishment of the Zionist regime was a move by the world oppressor against the Islamic world.

"As the Imam [the late Ayatollah Khomeini] said, 'Israel must be wiped off the map' 
 The Islamic world will not let its historic enemy live in its heartland."

The Prime Minister said: "These sentiments are completely and totally unacceptable. I have never come across a situation where the president of a country says they want to wipe out another country - this is not acceptable. Their attitude towards terrorism, towards the nuclear weapons and towards Israel is not acceptable.

"If they continue down this path, people are going to believe that they are a real threat to our world security and stability."

Mr Blair said he felt a "real sense of revulsion" at the remarks.
Posted by: Captain America || 10/27/2005 21:12 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A strong response from a few trident subs Tony?
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 10/27/2005 22:07 Comments || Top||

#2  Message from US and UK. Don't piss us off and don't even try to hurt an ally, 'cause that will piss us off. Get the picture?
Posted by: mmurray821 || 10/27/2005 22:08 Comments || Top||

#3  Somewhere down the road somewhere in the Islamic World a region is gonna get bitch slapped but hard. Odds are IMO Iran or SA. We are in a World War in which on one side is the idea that people have the right to determine their own political future and on the other side is a world view that it was all predetermined by Allan. I say fuck'em. If we lose a 100 million overall in the future the billions who never have to experiance a world with Islam will thank us
Posted by: Cheaderhead || 10/27/2005 22:35 Comments || Top||

#4  :: shrug ::
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/27/2005 23:05 Comments || Top||


UK Signs Memorandum Of Understanding With Libya
The Foreign and Commonwealth Office can announce that the UK Government has today signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) with the Government of Libya to facilitate deportation of persons suspected of activities associated with terrorism. The MOU was signed in Tripoli by Her Majesty's Ambassador to Libya, Anthony Layden and the Libyan Acting Secretary for European Affairs, Abdulati Ibrahim al-Obidi.

The Government believes that the assurances provided by this type of MOU should enable the British Courts to allow the deportation of foreign nationals who threaten national security or whose presence is not conducive to the public good; and that such deportations will uphold the UK's international obligations.
Sounds like a good idea to me. If you work it right, maybe you can dump anybody with a turban and a detonator in Libya and let them handle the problem. I'm sure Muammar could think of something he'd like you to do in return.
Posted by: Fred || 10/27/2005 12:52 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  See if they really deport anyone. I need to see proof they are actually going to deport someone. So far they haven't deported one terrorist. Words printed on paper and talk is worthless.
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 10/27/2005 13:40 Comments || Top||


British Anti-Terror Bill Wins Approval
Prime Minister Tony Blair's government won a crucial parliamentary vote on sweeping new anti-terrorism legislation Wednesday, but faced a further fight over plans to lock up terror suspects for 90 days without charge. Following a lengthy debate in the House of Commons, lawmakers voted 472-94 to back the Terror Bill. The main opposition Conservative Party supported the bill, but warned it would seek to block the legislation at a later stage if the government did not rethink some of the proposals.
Posted by: Fred || 10/27/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Caribbean-Latin America
Venezuela Arrests Pakistani With Alleged Links to Terrorism
CARACAS, Venezuela (AP) - Venezuelan authorities collared a Pakistani national with alleged links to terrorism in eastern Venezuela, an official from the Attorney General's Office said Thursday. Hussein Rene Assar, 38, was detained on Oct. 25 in the city of Puerto La Cruz, which is located roughly 240 kilometers (148 miles) east of Caracas, said the official, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The official said the Canadian Embassy tipped off Venezuela's federal police force after Assar allegedly demanded monetary payment in exchange for information regarding alleged terrorist plots against the Canadian government.
Oh, so that's why Hugo had him picked up. He was threatening another socialist state
""It's an ongoing investigation, so we can't comment on it," Michael Harvey, a spokesman at the embassy, told The Associated Press during a telephone interview. The official from the Attorney General's Office said Assar was asking for US$7,000 (euro5,800) in exchange for information regarding "explosives ... and terrorist acts in Canada."
"No Canadian dollars, please"
President Hugo Chavez has repeatedly said that Venezuela is committed to the fight against international terrorism while urging world leaders to concentrate on eliminating the causes of terrorism, such as the United States poverty.
Posted by: Steve || 10/27/2005 13:28 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  No cut proffered to the Headman.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/27/2005 15:52 Comments || Top||

#2  this might also be a sunni/shia thing

Hugo's friend in Iran may not trust Pakistani terrorists because Pakistani terrorists have terrorized Pakistani Shia
Posted by: mhw || 10/27/2005 16:39 Comments || Top||


Down Under
Australian wheat board involved in oil-for-food scandal
AUSTRALIAN wheat sales to Iraq were used to illegally funnel about $US200 million ($262.78 million) from the UN humanitarian oil-for-food program to prop up Saddam Hussein's murderous regime.

Farmers last night expressed fury that their grain had been used in illicit deals that could still be funding the bloody insurgency in Iraq.
The Howard Government was bracing itself for an explosive UN report, which identifies the AWB as one of 3000 companies involved in the corruption scandal that siphoned $US12.8 billion ($16.82 billion) to Saddam over the seven years the program operated.

The report, by UN chief investigator Paul Volcker, which was released early this morning (AEST), says the AWB, formerly the Australian Wheat Board, was involved in providing $US200 million in payments to a transport firm, but also finds there is insufficient evidence to show the AWB or its executives were aware the money was ultimately going to Saddam.

Shares in AWB, which earlier this month touched a record high of $5.41, collapsed yesterday afternoon, falling 23c ahead of the release of the Volcker report.

The stock finished more than four per cent lower, at $5.16, giving the company a market value of almost $1.8 billion.
AWB was the largest supplier of wheat to Iraq under Saddam, and sold about 10 million tonnes of grain under the oil-for-food program, set up after the first Gulf War. Under the program, Iraq was allowed to sell oil in order to pay for food, medical and other humanitarian supplies.

Sales revenue was handled by the UN, which would then pay the companies exporting goods to Iraq. However, the sales contracts were negotiated directly between the exporter and the former Iraqi government - in AWB's case, with the Iraqi Grains Board.

The IGB insisted AWB use an overpriced Jordanian trucking company called Alia to deliver the wheat within Iraq. AWB has said the inflated delivery cost was added to the amount it charged the UN for the wheat. Alia would then pay part of the shipping cost to Saddam's regime.

AWB has always strongly denied any deliberate wrongdoing in its dealings with Iraq, saying it never knowingly paid kickbacks.

Last night, AWB said it had "fully co-operated with the investigation". "AWB did not knowingly pay or enter into any arrangements to pay monies to the former regime," it said in a statement. "AWB relied on the UN to supervise and regulate the (program). There was a 10-step contract approval process established by the UN. Each AWB contract went through this process and was approved."

It is most of the companies implicated in bribery are Russian, followed by French.

People mentioned in the report include British lawmaker George Galloway and Russian ultranationalist leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky.

Top European companies like Germany's DaimlerChrysler AG and Siemens, Britain's Weir Group and the Brussels-based branch of Volvo Construction Engineers were among those reported to have paid kickbacks to Iraq.

Chairman of West Australian farmers group Western Grain Growers, Leon Bradley, said money corruptly paid to Saddam was now conceivably funding terrorists fighting against coalition forces in Iraq.

"This destruction has been partly funded courtesy of the AWB," he said. "It's ironic that our Government forces farmers to supply their wheat to an organisation that steals food out of the mouths of children."

The comments appeared to confirm the fears of senior Nationals party figures, who said they were concerned West Australian farmers, who produce about half of Australia's annual wheat crop, would use the report to renew their demands for AWB to be dismantled.

Mr Bradley said he believed the oil-for-food scandal was the reason AWB this week lost a contract to supply one million tonnes of wheat to Iraq.

The contract, which went to the US, was awarded under a new tender system which puts the Iraqi Government, rather than the suppliers, in charge of shipping the wheat.

Iraq's Deputy Prime Minister Ahmad Chalabi said AWB would not quote prices under the new system.

A spokesman for Mr Volcker's office said yesterday that "the inclusion of (any company) in the report does not amount to evidence of a crime, but some evidence of manipulation one way or another".

He added that "some of these people may be innocent".

Australia and Iraq have had a series of problems regarding wheat exports, and are yet to settle a dispute from earlier this year involving alleged contamination of Australian wheat with iron ore dust and claims by Australia for compensation for detaining its ships at Umm Qasr.

UN investigators last year asked AWB for all documents related to contracts signed between 1991 and the start of the US-led war in 2003, amid allegations that Australian wheat had been sold to Iraq at what appeared to be an inflated price.

One contract, signed in 2003, showed that Saddam's government agreed to buy 525,000 tonnes of wheat from AWB at E280 per tonne. At the time, the US was selling wheat for about E151 a tonne.

A spokesman for Trade Minister Mark Vaile refused to comment until the report was released.
Posted by: God Save The World AKA Oztralian || 10/27/2005 17:30 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Ozzies compromise on anti-terrorist bill
SYDNEY - Australia’s conservative government on Wednesday signalled a willingness to compromise on controversial new anti-terrorism legislation that opponents claim say would violate human rights conventions and the national constitution.

Prime Minister John Howard also indicated he could postpone introduction of the new laws in parliament, which had been scheduled for debate next week on “Melbourne Cup” day, when public attention will be focussed on Australia’s premier thoroughbred horse race.

Speaking from neighboring Papua New Guinea, where he was attending a regional summit, Howard said he was happy to change a controversial element of the new legislation granting shoot-to-kill powers to police in cases involving suspected terrorists. “I’m quite happy to change it provided the situation is covered,” Howard said. “I’m quite relaxed about the final form of the legislation providing it delivers on the substance of the agreement.”

Howard said the legislation’s shoot-to-kill provisions merely added the crime of terrorism to powers police already held in dealing with other categories of crime. “At no stage was it designed to give police extra protection,” he said.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/27/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sounds like the British battleship compromise of 1910. The Tories wanted 6 over 4 yrs, the Libs wanted 2 over 2 years and they compromised on 8 over 6 yrs.

Thisn off the cuff, please to correct.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/27/2005 15:55 Comments || Top||

#2  I didn't know Ozzie Guillen and Ozzie Osborne were even working on an anti-terrorism bill...
Posted by: Spot || 10/27/2005 16:06 Comments || Top||


Europe
4 al-Tawhid convicted in Germany
A German court on Wednesday convicted three Middle Eastern men of belonging to a terrorist group linked to Al Qaeda and of plotting to attack Jewish targets in Germany. A fourth man was found guilty of supporting the group. The defendants - two Jordanians, a Palestinian and an Algerian - were sentenced to between five and eight years in prison by the court in DÃŒsseldorf, Germany, which said the men were taking orders from Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, a terrorist leader at the center of the bloody insurgency in Iraq. "Abu Musab al-Zarqawi should also be sitting on the defendants' bench," said the judge, Ottmar Breidling, who delivered the verdict.

The decision, announced two months after a court in Hamburg, Germany, found a Moroccan man guilty of belonging to Al Qaeda and sentenced him to seven years in prison, is viewed by terrorism specialists here as further evidence that Germany is cracking down on militant Islamic groups. "This is very important because it sends a political signal that Germany is doing all it can to hunt down terrorists," said Rolf Tophoven, a counterterrorism specialist. "It's a psychological victory." The German interior minister, Otto Schily, said he welcomed the verdicts "as part of the fight against terrorism."

The planned attacks, against two Jewish-owned discos in DÃŒsseldorf and a community center in Berlin, were foiled by what the judge said was decisive action by German police and intelligence agents. The four men were arrested in April 2002, with a fifth, Shadi Abdullah, who became the main witness against them after making a deal with prosecutors to testify. In addition to plotting the attacks, three of the men were convicted of belonging to a terrorist cell and of having forged documents to stay in Germany. Some even received financial support from the state.

The court sentenced the group's leader, Muhammad Abu Dhess, a Jordanian, to eight years in prison. Two other defendants - Ismail Shalabi, also of Jordan, and Aschraf al-Dagma, a Palestinian - were sentenced to six years and seven and a half years, respectively. The fourth defendant, Djamel Moustfa, an Algerian, was convicted of the less serious crime of supporting the group and violating Germany's weapons laws. He was sentenced to five years.

In a telephone call between Mr. Zarqawi and Mr. Dhess in 2001, intercepted by authorities, Mr. Dhess said, "I swear to you, sheik, if you ordered me to die, I would do it," according to evidence in the case. During the 55-day trial, however, Mr. Dhess insisted that he had no plans to attack Jewish facilities. "I hate the Israeli system," he testified. "But I don't hate the Jews as Jews." Lawyers for Mr. Dhess attacked Mr. Abdullah's credibility, saying he was a "notorious liar."
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/27/2005 02:57 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Germany is very protective of their Jewish community. Jewish schools, synagogues and community centers are provided with 24/7 police protection and, like Catholic priests and Lutheran ministers, rabbis' salaries are paid by the State. The head of the Jewish community is a man of importance, not to mention our own TGA, who gets into the most fascinating meetings. :-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/27/2005 14:11 Comments || Top||


Iran leader's words 'sickening'
EUROPEAN leaders have condemned statements by the Iranian President calling for Israel to be destroyed.
Speaking in the Iranian capital Tehran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said Israel should be "wiped off the map", the official IRNA news agency reported.

Support for the Palestinian cause is a central pillar of the Islamic Republic which officially refuses to recognise Israel's right to exist.

"Israel must be wiped off the map," Ahmadinejad told a conference called "The World without Zionism", attended by some 3,000 conservative students who chanted "Death to Israel" and "Death to America".

Under reformist President Mohammad Khatami, whose eight-year tenure ended earlier this year, Iran had shown signs of easing its implacable hostility towards Israel. Officials said Tehran might not object to a two-state solution if that was what the Palestinians wanted.

But Ahmadinejad, a former member of the hardline Revolutionary Guards and traditional religious conservative, said there could be no let-up in its hostility to Israel.

"The Islamic world will not let its historic enemy live in its heartland," he said.

White House Spokesman Scott McClellan said Washington took such remarks seriously. "It underscores the concerns we have about Iran's nuclear intentions," he said.

The United States accuses Iran of seeking nuclear arms, but Tehran says it needs atomic fuel only for power stations. Iran has developed ballistic missiles able to hit Israel.

France, Spain, Britain and Canada condemned the President's remarks and the European trio said their foreign ministries would summon Iranian envoys and demand an explanation.

"(These) comments are deeply disturbing and sickening," a British Foreign Office spokesman said.

"We have seen in Israel today the horrible reality of the violence he is praising," he said, referring to a Palestinian suicide bombing in the Israeli town of Hadera that killed five people and wounded 30.

"Saying Iran wants to wipe Israel from the map will only heighten concerns about Iran's nuclear ambitions ... We will be protesting to the Iranian charge d'affaires," he said.

"If these (reported) comments are true, they are unacceptable. I condemn them with the greatest firmness," French Foreign Minister Douste-Blazy said.

"...Foreign Minister Miguel Angel Moratinos has expressed his rejection in the most emphatic terms and has decided to urgently call in the Iranian ambassador to ask him for an explanation," the Spanish foreign ministry said.

Tehran denies accusations it trains and arms Palestinian militant groups, saying it offers only moral support.

Canadian Foreign Minister Pierre Pettigrew said: "We cannot tolerate comments of such hatred, such anti-Semitism, such intolerance. And these comments are all the more troubling given that we know of Iran's nuclear ambitions."
Posted by: tipper || 10/27/2005 02:16 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And what would these leaders, excluding the US-UK-Oz, do about it? This is the newly elected and obviously internally powerful President of Iran. He and all the others wielding power in Iran are hell-bent upon acquiring nuclear weapons. None of these "leaders" doubts it, no matter what the public stance of their Govts. So what do these mewlings actually mean?

Will they support action? Will they stand up to Puttyputz - whose actions endanger the entire world for a few pieces of silver - and force him to change his position? He's easy to control: money. If everyone who mutters some PR outrage actually packed a pair and decided to punish Puttyputz, it would begin to isolate the insane Iranians.

And what of China? Wu will surely support Iran if they're forced to take a public stand. And they have the same vulnerabilities - economic vulnerabilities. They must have markets for their dime-store shit. If no one buys their shit, they can't buy Iranian oil, unless they trade nukes and missiles for it. And what of tomorrow, when China threatens everyone who gets in the way of their designs? And tomorrow will come and, indeed, they will have built up their collection of threats and favors - it's as clear as glass that they have a long-term agenda and will not be dissuaded. What of them? Do these same mewling morons have the stones to stand up to Wu and Da Boyz in Peking? The answer is as clear as Chinese intentions. They had to be embarrassed by the US into keeping the arms embargo. These same "leaders" are exactly like Puttyputz, in the end: whores. Worthless, toothless, spineless whores.

Pfeh.

The issue of Iran will eventually fall upon the US or Israel. It's hard to see exactly where the UK & Oz fit into that, since invasion is both unnecessary and beyond our combined resources at the moment - not to mention politically impossible for the UK. All the rest are playing to the crowd and pretending to have ethics and stones and honor.

Double-Pfeh. They have none.
Posted by: .com || 10/27/2005 2:47 Comments || Top||

#2  We really did the wrong thing after 9/11.
We were not nasty enough.
Posted by: 3dc || 10/27/2005 2:49 Comments || Top||

#3  We will write them a very sternly worded letter.
Posted by: Hans Blix || 10/27/2005 2:51 Comments || Top||

#4  Amen. 3dc, not by half.
Posted by: .com || 10/27/2005 2:51 Comments || Top||

#5  Never too late for nasty.
Posted by: Master of Obvious || 10/27/2005 2:56 Comments || Top||

#6  "Israel" and "Zionists" also infers the destruction of the USA and Westernist supporters of Israel, so in reality MadMoud is also calling for the destruction of America and the West.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/27/2005 3:00 Comments || Top||

#7  Therefore we nuke Iran, or at least their spiritual capitol: Qom. Hmmm, no we can't because Bush - the Jackass-in-Chief - has hands off alliances with the Ayatoilet's Iraq puppets. Remember, when he twice let al-Sadr pigs slip away in exchange for armed peace? What a genius.

Until the US Presidency is occupied by a Secular - and not backwood's holy rollers like the current dork - you can kiss off victory in any counter terror war.

Rhetoric-bombers: what do you think about the Islamofascist victories in the recent elections in the Afghan sewer? The same animal who commanded the destruction of the giant Buddhas, was overwhelmingly elected by Bush's cult-of-peace allies. Now that's oil-patch "freedom" for you. It's time to shelve the civil-policing role of US troops, and unleash the dogs of war on enemy-Muslims, at home and abroad.
Posted by: Vlad the Muslim Impaler || 10/27/2005 3:46 Comments || Top||

#8  ROFL.

Vlad The Poseur:

1) Mighty soldier of freedom. Um, huh?
2) Slayer of imagined foes. Okay, I guess so, check.
3) Master of Self Parody. Check.
4) Fuckwit on a BDS bender. BINGO.

Go fuck yourself. With a chainsaw. Asstard.
Posted by: .com || 10/27/2005 3:57 Comments || Top||

#9  .com: clever name for a geeky, self-important gas-bag. I don't want to reinforce your dementia tremors, shorty, but I have to make the observation that only a bottom-scraper would point the proliferation finger at China and Russia, while billions of US dollars is burned in Shiite Iraq and Pakistan. Your analyses are nothing but Bush' kiss-ass, in varying forms. If Western Civilization is on the path to destruction, then it is anti-Secular ravers like you who led it on the path.

Repeat after me: David Frum's account ("The Right Man") of Bush's quixotic campaign to unite Jews, Christians and Muslims, aptly describes the slavish anti-Secularism that produced the Central Asia wheel-spinning, and I repudiate my former regurgitation of surrenderist rhetoric of the man who will be remembered as one of the worst President's in US history. I apologise for not having the guts to defend the abu-Ghraib intel-prep troops, when Bush hung them out to dry in that al-Arabiya TV interview. By supporting policies that caused America to look like a beggar state, I helped create conditions where America is treated as such, notwithstanding the thousands of nukes that the country should be tossing at its mortal enemies. Bush blew it, and I bought his snake oil.

Holy Rollers: if some visible star light was generated 3,000,000,000 light years ago, then how could the universe be only a few thousand Bush-Falwell years old? Duh! A boy needs his faith.

Posted by: Vlad the Muslim Impaler || 10/27/2005 4:10 Comments || Top||

#10  ROFL! I have a bad nym? LOL. You're easily among the most pretentious asstard morons we've ever had. You're merely another gutless pathetic dysfunctional fool who dreams up an idiot nym and comes here to disgorge bile for therapeutic release. If you weren't so pathetic, you'd be much funnier.

Honest men give credit where due. They're not petty and foolish. They recognize that everyone does not have to be a clone of their preferences and thoughts to be worthwhile. They judge people based upon their actions and results.

The only President who has ever done squat and you throw hissy fits cuz he's got a belief system that bothers you. Lol. What a fool. I'm an atheist, you windbag, and I don't care if he believes in Santa Claus - he's done 10 billion times more than you will ever do. No one but me will ever do everything on my wish list, but I'm sure as hell not the idiot you are - he's on the right track and I'm incredibly grateful we don't have alGore or alSkeery - secular dimwits who would've folded on Day One and gone running to the even dimmer dhimmis in Europe and the UN.

That you can't acknowledge facts is why you have no credibility. It's also patently obvious you have nothing to offer. You're a poseur, a joke, a gasbag, a phoney, a wimp, a cheesedick, a coward, and a sick fuck.

Fuck the fuck off, fuckwit.
Posted by: .com || 10/27/2005 4:32 Comments || Top||

#11  Is Bush-Falwell an SI unit?
Posted by: Tholunter Clomble || 10/27/2005 4:48 Comments || Top||

#12  If this isn't an open statement that Iran intends to continue to attack and make war on the USA I don't know what is. The government of the US needs to act soon. Iran already has attacked us several times and we have done zip about it.
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 10/27/2005 5:33 Comments || Top||

#13  Ahmadinejad may have "Saddam Syndrome", ie, he knows the UN and the EU won't do anything but issue "strongly worded letters" and he doesn't believe the US or Israel will act without their support. Saddam was cured the hard way. Looks like Ahmadine will have to take the hard cure himself.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 10/27/2005 7:23 Comments || Top||

#14  Sock Puppet,
I am afraid that Bush is in a situation were he cannot (domestically speaking) do anything that would even look like opening a new front with Iran.
The Europeans, while beginning to show faint signs of understanding, do not have the millitary means nor the political balls to do anything besides economical sanctions which would be toothless because the Russians and the Chinese would torpedo them by keeping buying Iranian oil just to spite the Americans.

No Sock Puppet my dear, it seems like everybody has now left the dirty job to us Joooos of Israel.

However, realizing that we only have a very narrow time window to actualy do something against the nuclearization of the Fundies of Iran and taking into account that an actual on the ground operation or conventional airstrikes would not work here, I am beginning to suspect that we may have to go nuclear on them.

While this is not a very thrilling conclusion, I dont really think that we have any choice left.

I also believe that once the turbaned shitheads at Qomm have access to nukes they would immediately nuke us at the first convenient opportunity. Therefore letting them have a nuke is by my book a suicidal act by Israel, which I truely hope is not going to happen,
Posted by: Elder of Zion || 10/27/2005 7:26 Comments || Top||

#15  My panties are all in a bunch. I will remove them, and throw them at Mahmoud Ahmadinejad
Posted by: Jacques Chirac || 10/27/2005 7:46 Comments || Top||

#16  Vlad: You need to read you own stuff. You sound like Byrd on stgenbara11@yahoo.comeroids.
Posted by: anymouse || 10/27/2005 7:49 Comments || Top||

#17  Dear EoZ,

You say "I also believe that once the turbaned shitheads at Qomm have access to nukes they would immediately nuke us at the first convenient opportunity. "

Why on earth would you believe that? Is it because their "moderate" president, Rafsanjani(?), actually said just that?

My goodness, how respectful of you to actually believe what those *&^%^&**^% say.
Posted by: AlanC || 10/27/2005 8:05 Comments || Top||

#18  Paging Neville, Neville Chamberlain!

Folks looking for another Peace in our Time opportunity.
Posted by: john || 10/27/2005 8:56 Comments || Top||

#19  AlanC,
I think the Iranian Prez isMahmoud Ahmadinejad and not Raphsanjani.
Anyhow, do you or don't you want me to believe his words ??
Posted by: Elder of Zion || 10/27/2005 9:08 Comments || Top||

#20  Alan C - Iran is effectively a theocracy. If Allan tells them to nuke Tel Aviv.. they will. Simple. They will do this by proxy to avoid the consequences. Al Q? Hezbollah? IJ? Take your choice.
Posted by: Howard UK || 10/27/2005 9:12 Comments || Top||

#21  EoZ, I may be speaking out of turn but I do believe Alan C was being sarcastic. Due to the nature of our media extolling the RoP while their leaders say shit like 'destroy Israel'. I have no doubt that Israel will not let the mullah's get nukes. And I have no doubt that the USA will not let that happen either. You know what I would love to hear? A US president announce a tit-for-tat defense policy of Israel. Let Iran know, you nuke Israel, theirs aren't the only nukes coming your way. We've got plenty to spare.
Posted by: AllahHateMe || 10/27/2005 9:18 Comments || Top||

#22  AlanC is right. Rafsanjani, the "moderate" president of Iran, said in December 2001: RAFSANJANI SAYS MUSLIMS SHOULD USE NUCLEAR WEAPON AGAINST ISRAEL
"If a day comes when the world of Islam is duly equipped with the arms Israel has in possession, the strategy of colonialism would face a stalemate because application of an atomic bomb would not leave any thing in Israel but the same thing would just produce damages in the Muslim world", Ayatollah Ali Akbar Hashemi-Rafsanjani told the crowd at the traditional Friday prayers in Tehran.
...
"War of the pious and martyrdom seeking forces against peaks of colonialism will be highly dangerous and might fan flames of the World War III", the former Iranian president said, backing firmly suicide operations against Israel.
...
"Jews shall expect to be once again scattered and wandering around the globe the day when this appendix is extracted from the region and the Muslim world", Mr. Hashemi-Rafsanjani warned, blaming on the United States and Britain the "creation of the fabricated entity" in the heart of Arab and Muslim world.
Posted by: ed || 10/27/2005 9:26 Comments || Top||

#23  Rafsanjani, the former "moderate" president of Iran
Posted by: ed || 10/27/2005 9:27 Comments || Top||

#24  AllaHateMe,
a couple of nukes on Tel Aviv and Jerusalem will do us in for good. What happens afterwords is to all Israelis an academic question at best.
Therefor, we will have to defang them before they get any capability.
Posted by: Elder of Zion || 10/27/2005 9:36 Comments || Top||

#25  Let me say a few words in defense of the Euros. Even their words alone help - Iranians get the BBC, etc - and so this kind of thing is propaganda against the regime, making it clear to ordinary Iranians how the regime has isolated them. It adds to the embarrasment of Russia, in defending Iran (even Russia had to admit it was improper to call for the destruction of a UN member state)

what will they do? As usual the most aggressive response so far is from Australia - John Howard has called for UN action - specifically about THIS speech, not just about the nuclear issue - although he wasnt specific - Shimon Peres has called for Iran to be suspended from the UN (and if you dont think that matters, ask the folks on Taiwan) The Euros havent gone that far, although they dont seem to rule it out.

Now of course no one is saying - aha, he said this, now we're changing our vote on sanctions, or use of force, or whatever. But it changes the atmosphere. Both the speech, and the Euro response. All make it just a bit harder on anyone going soft on Iran, and just a bit easier on anyone going tough on Iran.

Patience. He who endures, wins.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 10/27/2005 9:36 Comments || Top||

#26  LH
have you ever considered the possibility that when they may reach nuke production capablity in a couple of years, patience may actually be a Vice ?
Posted by: Elder of Zion || 10/27/2005 9:41 Comments || Top||

#27  Iran has a death wish. As much as I like Bush, I don't believe he will grant it. I certainly hope that Bush will provide Israel the support it needs after Israel vaporizes the Qom thugocracy. Today won't be soon enough.
Posted by: Darrell || 10/27/2005 9:46 Comments || Top||

#28  Vlad,
I'm a holy roller and fully support the Prez as he is between the Rock and a bunch of hard asses. I say we nuke not only Tehran, but Pakistan, Syria, and NK to fully hole them accountable for sharing their nuke technology. China can buy Russian oil and Israel can have all the Middle East as far as I'm concerned. Islamists....can't live with them so we gotta kill 'em.
Posted by: Danielle || 10/27/2005 9:46 Comments || Top||

#29  This guarantees that the Israelis WILL do something about Iranian nuclear facilities when the Iranians get close to bringing their bomb online, Insh'Allan!
Posted by: imoyaro || 10/27/2005 9:53 Comments || Top||

#30  Sarcastic???? Me??????

Thanks ed and AHM for jumping in.

Of course I was being sarcastic. I did not use former to describe Rafsanjani because "moderate" made the reference unique all by itself. The new tard is touted as hardline.

My disgust is primarily aimed at the MSM et al who label MMs like Rafsanjani as moderate and talk about the RoP. I can, sort of, forgive Bush for his use of the term given that he has to try and work with the Turkeys, Egypts, SAs etc.

Their is NO excuse for the Dhimmi Weasel, cowardly, Jew hating left and MSM (but I repeat myself) to ignore the proud proclamations of the Society of Tablecloth Headress.

LH you said "Patience. He who endures, wins"; okay, but my one question is this: when a person states unequivocally that he is going to kill you and you cannot run away, when do you kill him in self-defense? When he buys the build a gun kit? When he starts putting the pieces together? When he starts loading the gun? When he is aiming the gun? When he starts squeezing the trigger? OR, do you wait till he fires first hoping he'll miss?

Patience is fine, until it becomes suicidal, after that it's just too late.
Posted by: AlanC || 10/27/2005 9:54 Comments || Top||

#31  Vlad, you must not be a Bible reader, as no where does it teach pacifism. God formed the earth to be inhabited and those that can't live with others are the ones that have to go. God even commands that those who advocated destruction be destroyed to keep evil from taking over. You don't take decisive action lightly, but prayerfully, but as the Prez has said "you are either with us or against us". He will protect his people and his nation but he certainly doesn't need more critics now.
Posted by: Danielle || 10/27/2005 9:57 Comments || Top||

#32  Vlad - pureed again
Posted by: Frank G || 10/27/2005 10:00 Comments || Top||

#33  AllanC,
Thanks for the clarifications.
In my mind the real problem is how do you zap the theocracy without too much collateral damage for innocents.
Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be an easy way for doing this.
Posted by: Elder of Zion || 10/27/2005 10:04 Comments || Top||

#34  massive notifications by Sat TV that the mullahs are going down ASAP and civilians need to stay away from them? Should be fun watching the unwinding of all the black turbans among the brave MMs trying to disappear in a crowd :-)
Posted by: Frank G || 10/27/2005 10:16 Comments || Top||

#35  "Jews shall expect to be once again scattered and wandering around the globe the day when this appendix is extracted from the region and the Muslim world", Mr. Hashemi-Rafsanjani warned,

Sounds like he is talking about a appendectomy, but asking for an enema.

One of the differences that causes wars is westerners tend to mean what they say, easterners tend to say things to test boundaries.

Best thing to do is assassinate the guy (and anyone near him) by airplane.
Posted by: flash91 || 10/27/2005 10:23 Comments || Top||

#36  You mistake me gentlemen.

Israel or the US may have to attack Iran. I do not counsel indefinite patience in that regard.

I am merely discussing whether the European reaction to this vile statement is worth anything. IMO it IS worth something. If and when Israel or the US takes direct action against nuclear capabilities, this will soften any negative reaction. In the short term - the IAEA passed a resolution, 23 yes, 12 abstentions, demanding Iranian compliance, and threatening referall to the UNSC. Now I doubt that Iran will comply. This makes the odds on the referal greater. And it will make it that much costlier for Russia to veto sanctions. Either Russia will abstain, and sanctions will go into effect, or Russia will veto and relations between the EU and Russia will further strained.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 10/27/2005 11:23 Comments || Top||

#37  No Sock Puppet my dear, it seems like everybody has now left the dirty job to us Joooos of Israel.

I agree with you EoZ. There's only one country that can justify an attack on Iran's nuke facility and that's Israel. The result of it could very well be a direct attack on US forces in Iraq and Afghanistan since the Muslims would obviously believe that such an act couldn't happen without US approval and would be forced to react to back up their tough talk. The thing is it wouldn't be totally provable which would allow the US to defend itself without super major flack from the EU who's scared shitless of the Islamic facists or from Russia who's under attack from the same crowd and probably not China. From what I can see it's the best and maybe only way to make wiping Iran's present government off the map politically realistic at the moment.
Posted by: BillH || 10/27/2005 11:37 Comments || Top||

#38  Suppose Iran offers the EU a backroom deal something like this: Look, let us nuke Israel in exchange for our promise to dismantle our nukes after that, and our promise to sell you oil at a price not to exceed X per barrel for the next twenty years.

Does the EU take the deal or not?
Posted by: Matt || 10/27/2005 11:52 Comments || Top||

#39  Does the EU take the deal or not?
You could have stopped at "Look, let us nuke Israel". No sense in giving Filet Mignon to the starving when bread will do.
Posted by: ed || 10/27/2005 11:57 Comments || Top||

#40  ed, good point. I was thinking of that comment by a French diplomat that Israel is "a shitty little country." And I've always suspected that some Euros view Israel as (at best) a bargaining chip.
Posted by: Matt || 10/27/2005 12:11 Comments || Top||

#41  LH, I didn't mistake you. I did not figure that you meant patience should be infinite. What I tried to ask though is how long is long enough to wait?

Your apparent faith in the UN sanctions route is charming, if hopelessly naive. Look at Iraq for the history of sanctions and THOSE sanctions started from a much more heavily supported base!

Sanctions will NEVER be placed on Iran. Neither Russia, China nor France would ever agree.

But, on the chance they were (I'll simultaneously win the lottery) how long before the Persian version of OFF? How much would Russia, Kofi, etc. be raking in? How much farther along the line to development of nukes would the MMs, be?

Personally I would like to see Bush announce that we considered the statements of Iran's leaders to be the equivalent to a formal decleration or war. And he was going to consult with Congress for the appropriate response.
Posted by: AlanC || 10/27/2005 12:52 Comments || Top||

#42  alan

The iraq comparison is rightly brought up. I can only respond that Iran is a different society than Iraq. As nasty a place as Iran is, its not the ironclad totalitarian state that Iraq was. The mullahs rely on the support, or at least neutrality, of millions of poor Iranians. Sanctions that increase unemployment could well throw Iran into political turmoil.

Will sanctions even be passed. I dont know. France is not where it was on this a year ago. I think France would support sanctions, if Iran keeps speaking and acting as it has in the last few months. China wont veto unless Russia does. Will Russia veto? I dont know. If they do though, that will harm Russian relations with the EU, and that alone is a victory for the US.

When do we have to hit them? That depends alot on how hard it is to take the nukes out, and at what points in the process its militarily harder to do so. That involves military and technical questions i am not expert in.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 10/27/2005 13:23 Comments || Top||

#43  LH as I stated somewhere else, I think that a people's uprising is the only chance to avoid a war, probably with nukes, in the next 10 years.

I'm not so concerned about the difference in society between Iraq and Iran as I am about the sameness of the Europeans and Russians.
Didn't France just make all kind of noise about being on board about Syria? Didn't they just cut our legs out on anything like real action in the SC on Syria? I'm afraid that all of the elites that were on Saddam's payroll would be on Iran's at the drop of a hat, and Israel is the chip their willing to gamble with.

Posted by: AlanC || 10/27/2005 13:42 Comments || Top||

#44  Ahmadinejad seeks nothing less than turning all of Iran's population into one vast suicide bomber. The Iranians have already stated that if Iran's total destruction is the cost of wiping away Israel, it will be worth it.

What more does the outside world need to hear? Is this not enough to make all and sundry realize that these psychotics are hell bent upon sowing catastrophe on a massive scale?

Decap Iran's unelected leadership, NOW. DO NOT USE NUKES, there is absolutely no need to stimulate or justifiy nuclear terrorism with such an incredibly stupid move.

Merely wait for a general assembly of the mullahs and bring the roof down on their heads with a bevy of cruise missiles.

Israel is hamstrung by distance. It only has defensive nukes which will not serve it well to pre-empt this threat. America must neuter these maniacal loons, and do it soon.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/27/2005 14:11 Comments || Top||

#45  my crystal ball says nothing will be done - no sanctions cos of Russia and china, no military action cos of lefty media anti war campaigns, just a strongly worded letter signed by our goverments, infact this whole thing could and probably will split the western world even more eventually and that will really please the mullahs, after all Sammy nearly broke up the western worlds alliances and reshuffled the relation ships between nearly all western countries, and all that was done before the first bombs even hit Bagdad! Yeah i can see it now crystal clear. Unless we somehow plucked up the sense and courage to just overnight Atomise Tehran and a few other Iranian hellhole citys then were fcked. The Iranians will gleefully reel in the western media onto thier side as they are already doing, BDS will go into maximum overdrive and the mullahs will watch the internationl 'comuinity' squable for about 2 years before finally giving in to Iran cos by then theyve got their nukes. I think the chapter after that is fairly obvious and i just hope israel is ready to tackle a full blown atomic war with the iranians and also whoever or whatever Arab nations/groups they supply thier nukes too. they may only be kiloton yeild VBIND but sure would be nastier then a normal VBIED. Yeah basically we have a few years left or we lose the initiative and we are all fcked.
Posted by: Shep UK || 10/27/2005 14:13 Comments || Top||

#46  Why am I am reminded of this line?

"God says he can get me out of this mess, but he's pretty sure you're fucked."
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 10/27/2005 14:29 Comments || Top||

#47  "didn't they just cut our legs out on anything like real action in the SC on Syria?"

No, I dont think they did. They want to take things slowly. Another resolution calling on Syria to cooperate with Mehlis, and only go to sanctions IF Syria doesnt cooperate. I dont think they'll bail on a next resolution like on Iraq. Partly cause of French interests in Lebanon, but also because of changes in the US French relationship since 2003.

Thanks to US-French cooperation, Syrian troops left Lebanon, a new govt came to power in Lebanon, and Lebanese troops are beseiging Pro-Syrian Pal terrorists as we speak.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 10/27/2005 14:45 Comments || Top||

#48  Question. I think we all agree that its not a very bright thing for the Iranians to make this sort of annoucement to the world, So why did they do it?

Are they farther along on their nuclear program than expected, or are they distracting their people from something else. Has anything happened internally in Iran lately?
Posted by: rjschwarz (no T!) || 10/27/2005 15:22 Comments || Top||

#49  EoZ, in no way am I advocating waiting for iran to get nukes. I just believe that the 'rulers' of iran are the ones with the death wish, not your average citizen. My hope would be to bring more pressure on the people to overthrow the government of Iran. I think if they knew beyond doubt that they would be vaporized if their "leaders" attacked israel, it might raise the internal pressure a notch or three. I am of the camp that the only resolution to this problem is going to be internal...or nuclear. Sucks. A lot of innocent people will die either way. Hopefully Israel's intel is good and they can move at an opportune time.
Posted by: AllahHateMe || 10/27/2005 15:22 Comments || Top||

#50  RJ - go see Dan Drezner. Theyve eliminated subsidies on gasoline - OTOH theyve done antifreemarket things that have sent the local stock exchange down, like banning cement exports to keep cement for local use (world cement prices have gone up with Chinese demand) lots of economic ferment, which the govt doesnt seem to be handling well.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 10/27/2005 15:48 Comments || Top||

#51  OTOH he could just be crazy. A little of both, I think
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 10/27/2005 15:48 Comments || Top||

#52  First things first:

"Sounds like he is talking about a appendectomy, but asking for an enema."

flash91, that one's a keeper. I'll be using it regularly.

Here's a question for all of you:

How can Israel dismantle the Iranian nuclear facilities? A first strike with atomic weapons is out of the question. It would invite nuclear retaliation by Pakistan or whatever other Islamic nation took umbrage.

If Israel has cruise missile technology, that might be a way. Do they have the quantity necessary? They certainly cannot do it with boots on the ground. Airborne ordnance delivery is hampered by flightpath and refueling considerations.

Due to these questions, I still maintain that it is incumbent upon the United States to take Iran to task. As already noted, Russia and China will forever strangle any UN sanctions in the cradle. Plus, sanctions will do jacksh!t as usual. Therefore, it is up to America to act unilaterally against Iran.

If anyone can clarify upon this, I would welcome it.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/27/2005 15:52 Comments || Top||

#53  Don't be too sure that an Israeli first strike is out of the question. Pakistan would be foolish to get involved -- Israel can probably set Iran back for a century or two and still have plenty of nukes leftover to subdue Pakistan if necessary. See the end of Appendix A at:
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/israel/nuke/farr.htm
Posted by: Darrell || 10/27/2005 16:14 Comments || Top||

#54  Darrell, I'm asking about a non-nuclear Israeli first strike. Any takers?
Posted by: Zenster || 10/27/2005 18:22 Comments || Top||

#55  Tony Blair said today [from the BBC (sorry!)]:
"If they continue down this path, then people are going to believe that they are a real threat to our world security and stability.
"They may believe... the eyes of the world will be elsewhere, but I felt a real sense of revulsion at those remarks."
"Can you imagine a state like that with an attitude like that having a nuclear weapon?"
He added that Iran, suspected of having a nuclear weapons programme, could soon be considered a "real threat".
BBC political editor Nick Robinson said Mr Blair's comments carried the "implicit threat of military action".

Well at least someone gets it.
Posted by: Jake-the-Peg || 10/27/2005 18:28 Comments || Top||

#56  Oh, Bush gets it too. But since he's just been hamstrung by the hard right over Miers, and with Fitzpatrick about to do whatever he is about to do, his hands are tied.

Which is one reason I'm pissed as hell about the right's pissing contest re: Miers. (not to say I liked her but the way the opposition was done has been poison to bush's ability to act in the WOT)
Posted by: anon || 10/27/2005 19:34 Comments || Top||

#57  The thing I am most annoyed about is that that I like the Persian/Iranian people, but I really hate their government, Mad Mullahs, Inc. Nuking Iran in general will kill many decent, Mad Mullah, Inc.-hating Iranians, AND it will make the Arab world Very Happy. Don't forget, they hate the Persians/Iranians. It is easy for the EUnichs to make stern-sounding noises; no one will hold them accountable. I have no hope for the UN to act decently. None at all. I do not believe that we are so tied down in Iraq that we are without options there. Pakistan institutionally hates Iran, so don't hold out for much help from the Mad Mullahs, Inc. crowd from that vector. Want to change the internal situation in Iraq in one split second? Have US go after Iran, now, on the ground, no nukes. Include a couple of decent Iraqi infantry battalions. Watch the 'insurgency' in Iraq switch sides/ collapse in a heartbeat. Al Queda is/will be still problematic, but is a much smaller problem; let the Iraqi tribes deal with them. Counter to that; watch the reaction in Basra et al to such a move. Make sure the Brits get a BIG heads up before we cross the FEBA.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike || 10/27/2005 20:48 Comments || Top||

#58  Didn't we sell Israel some bunker buster missiles a while back? They could use those to make the underground facilities inescapable for the habituants, surely (I'm sorry, my memory is a bit fuzzy tonight -- the trailing daughters have been taking turns with over exhaustion following the TaeKwanDo tournament last Saturday, and a plethora of assignments due before the end of the quarter tomorrow.)
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/27/2005 23:32 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Fired Professor Presents No Defense at His Terrorism-Support Trial in Florida
TAMPA, Fla. (AP) - An attorney defending a fired college professor against federal charges of aiding Palestinian terrorists rested his case Thursday without calling a single witness to refute nearly five months of prosecution testimony. Defense attorney William Moffitt called the prosecution an "all-out assault on the First Amendment" and the right to free speech, and then rested his case for Sami Al-Arian.
Attorneys for three co-defendants began presenting their cases, which could take weeks more. Because the trial was continuing, neither side was immediately available for comment.

Al-Arian, 47, who was fired from the University of South Florida, and his co-defendants - Sameeh Hammoudeh, Ghassan Zayed Ballut and Hatem Naji Fariz - are accused of using Palestinian charities and educational entities as fundraising fronts for the Palestinian Islamic Jihad to support suicide bombings that killed hundreds. The men deny they supported violent acts and say they are being persecuted for views that are unpopular in the United States. Five other men have been indicted but have not been arrested. They are out of the country.

Moffitt's announcement that he was resting his case came the same morning that federal prosecutors wrapped up a case that included testimony from more than 70 witnesses and hundreds of pages of transcripts of wiretapped phone calls and faxes. The communications, intercepted by the FBI from the mid-1990s to about 2003, included discussions about the direction and financing of the PIJ. Other times, the participants appear to celebrate suicide attacks that killed Israelis and speak glowingly of the Palestinian "martyrs" who carried them out.

U.S. District Judge James S. Moody Jr. said he will instruct jurors that prosecutors must have proved that each defendant did something illegal with the "specific intent to further the illegal activities" of the Palestinian Islamic Jihad. However, Moody said he also tell them that they can find defendants guilty if prosecutors showed that they sent money to the group knowing that it would or could be used for terrorist acts.
Posted by: Steve || 10/27/2005 13:42 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  No secular court has authority over Moose limbs, I guess...
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/27/2005 15:02 Comments || Top||

#2  Defense attorney William Moffitt called the prosecution an "all-out assault on the First Amendment" and the right to free speech, and then rested his case for Sami Al-Arian.

Translation: "I got nuthin..."
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/27/2005 15:06 Comments || Top||


Negroponte Unveils Intelligence Strategy
Bolstering the growth of democracy in other countries has joined countering terrorism and preventing the spread of weapons of mass destruction as the top strategic missions for the nation's intelligence agencies, according to a document released yesterday by Director of National Intelligence John D. Negroponte.

Titled "The National Intelligence Strategy of the United States," the publication publicly sets out for the first time the strategic missions laid out by the director of national intelligence for the country's 15 agencies.


Negroponte said the strategic mission to "bolster the growth of democracy and sustain peaceful democratic states" is aimed at providing policymakers with information to alert them as to how countries are progressing toward democracy, allowing them to understand the "success or failure to achieve good governance." Although he did not mention Iraq, it would appear that the need to understand that country's progress would fit his description.

Negroponte said mission priorities as described in the document have not changed for the agencies, but two former senior intelligence officials said yesterday one involving democracy appeared new.

During the Cold War, the CIA carried out covert activities in many countries, including some in Soviet-controlled Eastern Europe, to support democratic leaders and political parties that opposed communist governments.

A senior intelligence official, who appeared with Negroponte at a briefing for reporters but asked not to be identified, said the democracy mission statement does not describe such covert operations but only outlines collection and analysis of so-called soft power intelligence in contrast to the threat-based intelligence that has been emphasized in the past.

The publication also lays out 10 goals, termed "enterprise objectives," that Negroponte hopes to accomplish as a result of the restructuring and transformation of the agencies that has begun since he took over as President Bush's chief intelligence adviser six months ago. These include many steps recommended by the Sept. 11 commission and the president's intelligence commission such as sharing of intelligence between agencies and creation of uniform security practices.

The public release of the intelligence strategy "shows Congress and the public our commitment to building an intelligence community that is more unified, coordinated and effective," Negroponte told reporters at the briefing. He added that the document will help the individual agencies under him align their activities to these missions.

In the past, the mission statement had been contained in a classified document produced by the DNI's predecessor, the director of central intelligence, according to a senior intelligence official.

One "enterprise" objective calls for establishing new and strengthened relationships with foreign intelligence services. That appears to conflict with goals recently set out by CIA Director Porter J. Goss who told his agency he wants to increase unilateral human intelligence collection and reduce reliance on foreign liaison relationships.
No conflict - Goss needs to get an internal capability up and running again, we can share as needed in parallel with that


The senior intelligence official said that though U.S. human intelligence collection will increase, "we have a lot more to harvest with allies," and that both approaches will be used.
Posted by: lotp || 10/27/2005 11:57 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How nice. It's the implementation that matters, however.
Posted by: Captain America || 10/27/2005 12:41 Comments || Top||

#2  I hope this presages covert activities going under DOD.
Posted by: Uleter Angenter7912 || 10/27/2005 12:42 Comments || Top||

#3  Bureaucracy being full of Bureaucrats the 1st, 3rd and 10th gaols will not be easy to implement, i.e.

1) Build an integrated intelligence capability to address threats to the homeland, consistent with U.S. laws and the protection of privacy and civil liberties.

3) Rebalance, integrate, and optimize collection capabilities to meet current and future customer and analytic priorities.

10) Eliminate redundancy and programs that add little or no value and re-direct savings to existing and emerging national security priorities.


Posted by: SwissTex || 10/27/2005 13:17 Comments || Top||

#4  Of course, Swiss Tex. That's why upper management gets paid the big bucks - and why the rest of us don't want to be promoted that high. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/27/2005 13:54 Comments || Top||

#5  Well of course we're not 'stuck on stupid.' Everyone knows this 'strategy' will be successful. How could a foreign born, former UN AMBO, French linquist and Yalie foreign service officer with middle name of Dimitri...possibly fail as an intelligence professional. More Yalies are always welcome. I understand he even speaks a little Texican! The 'transformation' mantra immediately popped out. That surely sinches it. The other obvious guarantour of success will be the physical location of his agency, i.e., proximity to that other dynamo of early warning success and productivity. One must wonder if covered walking paths that converge on a central tobacco and meditation atrium are planned. "Enterprise Objectives"...huh? Sounds like Malcolm Baldridge Award criteria. Good luck Ponte! Remember if you will, Ou thniskei zeilos eleutherias - Greek proverb; the passion for freedom never dies. I cannot help but wonder if the fellow who coined the phrase..."stuck on stupid" could not do better - quicker.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/27/2005 17:27 Comments || Top||

#6  Screw promoting democracy.

Promote individual liberty - and the rest will follow as surely as night follows day.
Posted by: Oldspook || 10/27/2005 22:48 Comments || Top||

#7  "Build an integrated intelligence capability "

You try getting the NSA to share anything related to collection without them trying to take control of it too... Same goes for CIA and HUMINT.

Not going to happen. Not unitl/unless someone chops the heads off all these agencies, clears the decks in middle management, and breaks down the empire building that runs rampant in any large government agency, defence or otherwise.
Posted by: Oldspook || 10/27/2005 22:52 Comments || Top||


Padilla Asks High Court to Intervene
"Dirty bomb" suspect Jose Padilla has asked the Supreme Court to limit the government's power to hold him and other U.S. terror suspects indefinitely and without charges.

The case of Padilla, who has been in custody more than three years, presents a major test of the Bush administration's wartime authority. The former gang member is accused of plotting to detonate a radioactive device.

Justices refused on a 5-4 vote last year to resolve Padilla's rights, ruling that he contested his detention in the wrong court. Padilla's attorney Donna Newman of New York said the new case, which was being processed at the court Thursday, asks when and for how long the government can jail people in military prisons.

"Their position is not only can we do it, we can do it forever. In my opinion, that's very problematic and something we should all be very concerned about," she said.

Critics contend the government went too far, by putting hundreds of foreigners and two U.S. citizens in legal limbo following the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. The Bush administration argues that with national security at stake, terrorist suspects are not entitled to the constitutional protections given ordinary criminal suspects.

The Supreme Court has disagreed, although the makeup of the court is changing.

Justices will not decide until late this year whether to hear Padilla's appeal.

One Bush justice will be on the bench, and a second could be on the way. John Roberts replaced the late Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist who died in September. Bush named Harriet Miers to succeed the retiring Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, but on Thursday Miers withdrew her nomination.

"I think the court is going to have to take it," said Scott Silliman, a former Air Force attorney and Duke University law professor. "This is a vital case on the principle of an American citizen captured in the United States, and what constitutional rights does he have."

Padilla's case has sharply divided the courts. A federal judge in South Carolina ordered the government to either charge him or release him from detention. However, a panel of the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Richmond, Va., ruled in September that the president has the power to use military detentions for Americans "closely associated with al-Qaida, an entity with which the United States is at war."

Officials contend Padilla received weapons and explosives training from al-Qaida and planned an attack with a type of "dirty bomb." The New York-born convert to Islam was one of just two U.S. citizens held as enemy combatants. The second, Louisiana native Yaser Hamdi, was released a year ago after the government said he no longer posed a threat to the United States and no longer had any intelligence value.
Posted by: lotp || 10/27/2005 09:48 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Critics contend the government went too far, by putting hundreds of foreigners and two U.S. citizens in legal limbo following the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

As opposed to say several hundred thousand Japanese, Italian and Germans foreign residents and -Americans around 1942? Few of whom were directly tracked from the enemy training camps into the United States as your client.

Padilla's attorney Donna Newman of New York said the new case, which was being processed at the court Thursday, asks when and for how long the government can jail people in military prisons.

Either for as long as a state of war exists [Senate Joint Resolution 23; Sept 2001], or the individual is tried for treason during time of war and executed. Personally, I would have opted for the latter. Are you in a hurry?
Posted by: Whomolet Glomoque9258 || 10/27/2005 11:52 Comments || Top||

#2  "Their position is not only can we do it, we can do it forever." Not forever, just until Jose dies.
Posted by: Cyber Sarge || 10/27/2005 20:40 Comments || Top||


Judge rules on Guantanamo strike
Lawyers for scores of terror suspects on hunger strike at the Guantanamo Bay jail must be told before detainees are force-fed, says a US federal judge. District Court Judge Gladys Kessler also ordered the US government to give medical records going back a week before such feedings take place. She said the US "can hardly be proud" of its conduct if it was true that the jail had been using brutal methods.
The US denies using inhuman treatment of foreign suspects in its Cuba prison.

The Pentagon says 26 out of some 500 prisoners are on hunger strike that started in August, but one human rights group puts the figure at more than 200. Most of prisoners at the US naval base in southern Cuba have been held for more than three years without being charged.

Judge Kessler said the US must notify the lawyers at least 24 hours before force feedings begin and also provide information at least weekly until suspects are no longer being fed by force. She acted after the lawyers representing about a dozen of Guantanamo detainees made an emergency petition, expressing concerns over the health of their clients. The judge spoke of "deeply troubling" allegations of forced feedings in which US jail personnel were accused of inserting thick tubes through the detainees' noses and into their stomachs without anaesthesia or sedatives. "If the allegations are true - and they are all explicitly, specifically and vigorously denied by the government - they describe the conduct of which the United States can hardly be proud," the judge wrote. However, she denied the lawyers' request for immediate telephone access to their clients.

The ruling affected a group of detainees from Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Yemen and Afghanistan.
Just pull the tubes and let them starve to death
Posted by: Steve || 10/27/2005 08:48 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Apparently, the lawyers mentuioned no longer represent the wishes of their clients, therefore, they should be replaced by lawyers who do.
Posted by: wxjames || 10/27/2005 9:50 Comments || Top||

#2  "If the allegations are true - and they are all explicitly, specifically and vigorously denied by the government - they describe the conduct of which the United States can hardly be proud," the judge wrote.

And if they aren't true, are you gonna come down on the scumbag lawyers that made them up? Or has Gladys already made up her mind on what she thinks the truth is?
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/27/2005 10:03 Comments || Top||

#3  wasn't Gladyd overturned previously on some Gitmo rulings?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/27/2005 10:12 Comments || Top||

#4  Well, if I were the gov't lawyer, I'd move for Rule Number Whatever sanctions and costs of proof for the unfounded allegations. Prolly loose, but i'd try.
Posted by: Mark E. || 10/27/2005 12:12 Comments || Top||

#5  Just appeal on both sides, maximize the friction. Tube in - tube out, tube in - tube out.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/27/2005 16:39 Comments || Top||

#6  ahhhh yessss Useful tool: Judge Gladys Kessler
**AFL-CIO/DNC Election Scandal**
Judge Helps AFL-CIO/DNC Suppress Public Documents
U.S. Dist. Judge Gladys Kessler (D.D.C., Clinton) blocked the Fed. Election Comm'n July 16 from re-releasing public documents from FEC's probe of 1996 campaign efforts of AFL-CIO, the Democratic Nat'l Committee, and other liberal entities. Kessler's preliminary injunction, sought by AFL-CIO/DNC, came a day before FEC planned to re-release the documents, which may contain evidence of union embezzlement crimes whose statutes of limitations are due to run this Fall. Despite this, Kessler's order will remain in effect until at least Oct.; she claims no one will suffer a great injury from the delay. AFL-CIO/DNC claim the documents contain "proprietary information," including campaign strategies and employees' names.
Posted by: Frank G || 10/27/2005 17:37 Comments || Top||


Memo Warns of MS 13 Plans to Kill Police Officers
Federal agents believe they've intercepted intelligence from the notorious Mara Salvatruchas gang who seem to be planning to assassinate federal and local police in the coming days. They have forwarded a safety memo to area authorities. In the intelligence bulletin obtained by Action 4 News, a confidential informant in Virginia claims the Mara Salvatruchas have designated October 30 as "Kill A Law Enforcement Officer Day"...
Juan? Jesus? What are you doing in Gitmo?
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/27/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  And so now law enforcement has designated Oct 30 as "Kill A Mara Salvatruchas Day".
Posted by: Phaviter Shainter2357 || 10/27/2005 3:17 Comments || Top||

#2  MS-13 is the new breed of gangs. Not content to dodge and avoid jail, they actually attack the police. You can thank rampant illegal immigration.
Posted by: gromky || 10/27/2005 3:31 Comments || Top||

#3  The brother of someone I know was recently shot on the street in a "safe" area of New York city. The shooting was so senseless and irrational, that the suspicion is it was a gang initiation rite. Just another routine incident of "gang related activity". Fortunately, the victim survived, but it was a close call.
Posted by: jolly roger || 10/27/2005 8:44 Comments || Top||

#4  If MS-13 are actually stupid enough to do this, then not only will every level of law enforcement come down like a ton of bricks on them, but MS-13 members will start disappearing or turning up in ditches with a bullet to the back of the head. Even the mafia wasn't this stupid. One thing cops know how to do is break the law.
Posted by: ed || 10/27/2005 9:15 Comments || Top||

#5  The response from the left will undoutedly be that the planned attacks reflect an under-representation of Latino or El Savadoran police officers, resulting from the administration's insensitivity to affirmative action and multicultural recruitment hiring failures.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/27/2005 11:31 Comments || Top||

#6  Midnight basketball? Officer Friendly? Mcgruff The Crime Dog?
What can we do to reach these poor misunderstood yutes who are lashing out because of their disenfranchisement and lack of opportunity?
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/27/2005 11:55 Comments || Top||

#7  What can we do to reach these poor misunderstood yutes who are lashing out because of their disenfranchisement and lack of opportunity?

Personally, I find that a swing with a hefty baseball bat targeting the eyebrows works wonders.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/27/2005 14:26 Comments || Top||

#8  You can thank rampant illegal immigration.

Nope. Al-Qaeda.
Posted by: Chotle Thromomp9784 || 10/27/2005 14:36 Comments || Top||


Iraq
South Asian Quake: Iraqi Soldiers On First Foreign Mission
Baghdad, 27 Oct. (AKI) - A brigade of the newly formed Iraqi army has been sent on its first foreign humanitarian mission, to the quake-devastated areas of Pakistan, according to the Kuwaiti news agency KUNA. The announcement came from the defence ministry in Baghdad on Thursday. The Iraqi army chief of staff, Babker Zebari, said that the soldiers sent to Pakistan have been trained in the United Arab Emirates. "This mission is the first of its kind in the history of the new Iraqi army and will contribute to boosting its humanitarian role" said Zebari.
And you'll never see it reported by the MSM.


Posted by: Steve || 10/27/2005 16:30 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  You are right.. I haven't heard a breath of this story.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom || 10/27/2005 18:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Good for them!

Iraq has a strong future.
Posted by: Snimp Graith4621 || 10/27/2005 20:13 Comments || Top||

#3  It will speak volumes to the Pakistanis.
Posted by: lotp || 10/27/2005 21:08 Comments || Top||


Security incidents in Iraq, Oct 27
Oct 27 (Reuters) - Following are security incidents reported in Iraq on Thursday, Oct. 27, as of 1245 GMT. U.S. and Iraqi forces are battling a Sunni Arab insurgency against the Shi'ite and Kurdish-led government in Baghdad. Asterisk denotes a new or updated item.

* NAHRAWAN - At least 21 Shi'ite militia fighters and two policemen were killed when they clashed with Sunni insurgents in Nahrawan, southeast of Baghdad, an Interior Ministry source said.

Another five police and 12 members of the Shi'ite Mehdi Army were wounded in the gunbattle which erupted after they sought to rescue a Mehdi Army member who was being held hostage, the official said.

* BAQUBA - One policeman was killed and five others wounded when clashes broke out between insurgents and Iraqi police in Baquba, 65 km (40 miles) north of Baghdad, police said.

* BAQUBA - One policeman was found shot dead in his car south of Baquba, police said.

* KIRKUK - One policeman from an elite unit was killed and two wounded when a roadside bomb exploded near their patrol in the northern city of Kirkuk, police said.

* HAWIJA - Two policemen were wounded when a car bomb exploded near a police patrol in Hawija, 70 km (43.50 miles) southwest of Kirkuk, police said.

* HAWIJA - The head of the Hawija city council escaped death when gunmen attacked him near Hawija, police said. He is seriously wounded in a hospital.

BALAD - One U.S. soldier was killed and four wounded when their patrol was hit by a roadside bomb and came under small arms fire on Wednesday near Balad, north of Baghdad, the military said.

BAGHDAD - A police major was killed by gunmen in the southern district of the capital, police said.

* KIRKUK - A police colonel was killed by gunmen in the northern city of Kirkuk, police said. He had previously been reported as wounded.

BAGHDAD - Two U.S. soldiers were killed when a roadside bomb hit their convoy in eastern Baghdad on Wednesday, the U.S. military said.

BAGHDAD - A car bomb hit a U.S. patrol of Humvee armoured vehicles in Baghdad early on Thursday, killing one civilian and wounding four, police and witnesses said.
Posted by: Steve || 10/27/2005 10:09 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Shi'ite militia fighters and two policemen were killed when they clashed with Sunni insurgents"
Which side were the policement on? Sounds like they should have been on the sidelines cheering for both sides (& passing them ammo if they ran low.)
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/27/2005 13:07 Comments || Top||

#2  Wonder how long this same report would be in the US?
Chicago ?
LA ?
NY ?
Houston?
Miami ?
Detroit ?
San Antonio ?
This could go on all day!!!! Based on this report, I think Iraq might be safer than US.
Posted by: Sherry || 10/27/2005 16:17 Comments || Top||


Evolving Bomb Design in Iraq
October 27, 2005: Iraqi terrorist bomb makers are trying to learn something from the designers of naval mines. The terrorists are using pressure mines to get around the electronic jamming that most convoys and military vehicles now carry. These jammers block the signal (from cell phones, garage door openers, Etc.) used to set off the bomb just when the target vehicle passes next, or over, it. A pressure fuze, buried under the road, would only close the circuit, and detonate the bomb, if a certain amount of pressure was exerted. Thus the pressure fuze would only go off if a heavier military (or supply) vehicle rolled over it. This could be combined with a wireless device that would arm the bomb. The wireless signal would have to be sent before the target vehicle got close enough for the jammers to block the signal, but this would prevent the bomb from going off for just any truck that was heavy enough.

The terrorists use of this technique is crude, and it has limited application (can’t be used in paved roads, takes longer to install the bomb, and the fuze is a more complex mechanism, meaning there are more components that can fail.) The Iraqi terrorists have been using pressure activated bombs, of various designs, for over a year. But the results have not been encouraging (for the bombers). Continued work on a device like this is more a sign of the desperation the terrorists are facing, than any major advance in their technology. The electronic jammers have been very successful, and have made it possible for military and supply vehicles to travel over a larger number of routes. The most successful alternative to the jammers is using a wire connection to set off the bomb. Again, this takes more time, and exposure of the bomb planting crew, to carry out. As a result, “wired” roadside bombs tend to only show up in Sunni Arab areas that are both very pro-terrorist, and not policed. That’s a combination that is becoming more rare with each passing month.
Posted by: Steve || 10/27/2005 09:35 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sounds like what they used on Hariri, who traveled with a jammer. Must be using Russian technology.
Posted by: Danielle || 10/27/2005 9:49 Comments || Top||

#2  Time to go back to the Japanese method: a hole, a 500 lb bomb, and a Japanese with a hammer.
Posted by: ed || 10/27/2005 9:56 Comments || Top||

#3  Always lead with a very big truck driven by a Sunni.
Posted by: plainslow || 10/27/2005 10:01 Comments || Top||

#4  Too easily countered with low tech. Just rig a road 'steam' roller with radio control and have it sweep the roads first. The rollers have vibrators on them which can create shock waves which may cause the bomb to detonate before the roller gets there.
Posted by: wxjames || 10/27/2005 10:01 Comments || Top||

#5  A highly effective device against bombs hits at their weak point: milli-amperage overcharges. Think of it as static electricity in wires. Most fuses are inherently sensitive to such shocks, and most any wire that can act as an antenna. Even claymore mines have to be carefully shunted to prevent premature detonation.

So "jamming" may not be the limit to what can be done against such devices.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/27/2005 15:32 Comments || Top||


Very Smart UAVs
October 27, 2005: UAVs are being equipped with more powerful sensors in order to deal with the special demands of the fighting in Iraq. The U.S. Air Force is trying out a sniper detection system mounted on low flying UAVs. This consists of an acoustic sensor, hooked up to a miniature computer that recognizes when a shot is fired below, calculates where it came from, and automatically swings the onboard camera around so that it is looking at where the sniper is (as indicated on the video.) This video is being broadcast to someone down below (usually the convoy, or unit, commander), who can then order troops to fire on the target, or take off after the sniper. Iraqis are not known for their marksmanship, and there are few real snipers fighting for the terrorists. But when someone does take a shot at U.S. troops, it’s a good idea to shoot back (just to send a message, if not to kill the shooter), and even better to capture the shooter, and get more information on who he is working for.

The U.S. Army is using a British made “Talon Radience II hyperspectral sensor” on their UAVs. That’s a mouthful, but what it does is simple. It’s a technique used to find naval mines (the “bottom mines” that sit on the sea floor in coastal water). This system works by having the UAV fly over the route first to take a “before” picture. Then, after a time, when the UAV carrying the hyperspectral sensor is escorting a convoy, it compares what it sees this time, with what it saw the last time, and alerts the convoy commander to any changes in what is seen. The system uses software that ignore meaningless changes, and spotlights those most likely to indicate a roadside bomb. While this works fairly well looking for bottom mines, that's because there are decades of experience. Thus the initial use of the hyperspectral sensor on land will be for gaining useful experience.
Posted by: Steve || 10/27/2005 09:16 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Just imagine what an advantage these UAVs will give us in a conventional battlefield. More's the reason to march toward Tehran.
Posted by: wxjames || 10/27/2005 10:13 Comments || Top||

#2  The UAVs also need to be armed with devices for pretriggering or disrupting the IEDs.
Posted by: mhw || 10/27/2005 12:09 Comments || Top||


Baghdad gun fight leaves 19 21 dead
A clash in Baghdad between Iraqi police and Shia militiamen, on the one side, and Sunni insurgents, has left 19 people dead, reports say.
According to one report, 17 of the dead were Shia militiamen and two were members of the Iraqi police. The AFP news agency says that fighters from the Mehdi Army had requested help in recovering a comrade being held by Sunni insurgents. The Mehdi Army is a militia loyal to radical Shia cleric Moqtada Sadr. There was no immediate information on casualties on the insurgent side.
UPDATED BODY COUNT: BAGHDAD, Oct 27 (Reuters) - At least 21 Shi'ite militia fighters and two policemen were killed on Thursday when they clashed with Sunni Arab insurgents southeast of Baghdad, an Interior Ministry official said. Another five policemen and 12 members of the Mehdi army loyal to nationalist Shi'ite cleric Moqtada al-Sadr were wounded in the battle, which erupted after they tried to rescue a Mehdi Army member who was being held hostage, the official said. "At least 21 members of the Mehdi Army were killed in the fight," a source in Sadr's office told Reuters.
Oh. Darn. Shucks.
There was no immediate information on insurgent casualties in the battle in Nahrawan, southeast of Baghdad, an area with a mixed Sunni and Shi'ite population.
Posted by: Steve || 10/27/2005 08:40 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Police 17, Sadr 2.

Nice box score.

Posted by: john || 10/27/2005 8:59 Comments || Top||

#2  The police and Sadr's bullet magnets were on the same side. Wonder how many Sunnis "insurgents" bought the farm.
Posted by: ed || 10/27/2005 9:10 Comments || Top||

#3  I read this report as saying: IP and Sadr's militia fighting Ba'athists/AQ, and 19 on the Shi'ite side dead.
Posted by: Jake-the-Peg || 10/27/2005 9:12 Comments || Top||

#4  This is like half a story.
Posted by: wxjames || 10/27/2005 9:46 Comments || Top||

#5  This is like half a story

waiting for the bartender to write the rest on a Palestine Hotel napkin, dontcha know?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/27/2005 9:52 Comments || Top||

#6  Waiting for Achmed's brother to call him back on the cell with some details. Until then, gimme another Bloody Mary, will ya Achmed. And a coupla Excedrins.
War is hell, lemme tell ya...
Posted by: Grizzled War Correspondent || 10/27/2005 11:03 Comments || Top||

#7  boy, those Mehdi's aren't very good, are they, Tater?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/27/2005 11:22 Comments || Top||

#8  i find this story very interesting
Posted by: liberalhawk || 10/27/2005 11:52 Comments || Top||

#9  cool, did we just let em duke it out on the sidewalk too? hope someone caught this 'shoot out' on film! popcorn time!
Posted by: Shep UK || 10/27/2005 13:55 Comments || Top||

#10  Sounds like the Shia malitia were acting on behalf of, or with the police and got their butt kicked by the Sunnis, bad business.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/27/2005 16:42 Comments || Top||

#11  Really doesn't sound right. Too one-sided. There has to be more to this.
Posted by: Whiskey Mike || 10/27/2005 20:17 Comments || Top||


2 al-Qaeda members killed in Iraq
Two al Qaeda members, one a cell leader accused of taking part in at least three videotaped beheadings, have been killed in Iraq, the U.S. military said on Wednesday.

The suspected cell leader was killed during a raid on a house in Mosul on Saturday, while the second al Qaeda member, identified as Abu Du'a, was believed to have died in an air strike near Qaim in western Iraq on Wednesday.

"Intelligence sources indicate that Abu Du'a, who helped Syrians and Saudis enter Iraq to intimidate and kill Iraqi citizens, was in the house at the time of the strike," the military said in a statement in Baghdad.

His body had not been recovered, but the air strike effectively destroyed the building, it added.

The U.S. military identified the cell leader killed in Mosul as Nashwan Mijhim Muslet and said his chief of security, Nahi Achmed Obeid Sultan, or Abu Hassan, also died in the raid by U.S.-led forces.

"Muslet, also known as Abu Tayir or Abu Zaid, was a senior operational al-Qaeda cell leader who operated specifically in the Mosul area," the military said.

It said he personally assisted in the beheadings of three Mosul citizens and that a number of beheadings by his cell were filmed to intimidate Iraqi citizens.

The statement on Wednesday's air raid said "Du'a was linked to other al Qaeda in Iraq and terrorists and foreign fighter facilitators in the Qaim, Karabilah and Husaybah areas."

Intelligence sources indicated he was connected to intimidation, torture and murder of civilians in the Qaim area, it said.

"Du'a held religious courts to try local citizens charged with supporting the Iraqi government and coalition forces. He would kidnap individuals or entire families, accuse them, pronounce sentence and then publicly execute them."

The U.S. statement said Abu Du'a's al Qaeda connections extended to Syria and Saudi Arabia, where most of his foreign fighters were reportedly recruited.

"He set up and ran a system that funnelled foreign fighters from Syria into the Qaim area. These fighters were then sent to local terrorist cells where they were used to attack innocent Iraqi citizens and Iraqi security and coalition forces," the military said.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/27/2005 02:41 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  what's the half-life of an al-qaeda leader these days?
Posted by: PlanetDan || 10/27/2005 11:52 Comments || Top||


Plugging Insurgents in Al Qaim
Original Arab News Title:
Plugging Leaks in Iraq Border Town
Pfeh.
Nestled on the roof of a house being built here, a US Marine sniper team scouts for insurgents they say slip across the Syrian border to take pot shots, while the population trickles back into town. Shots ring out and bullets whistle over the US troops shielded by waist-high walls and blankets that mask their movements.

A few smack into the house and an officer peering through binoculars points in the direction of the firing, a block of houses with blue doors. Three mortar rounds fired from a few kilometers away slam into the houses, throwing up clouds of white dust, while heavy machine guns from US armored vehicles stationed in the streets pound the target. “There is a good mix of both insurgents and foreign fighters,” comments Lt. Col. Julian Alford, commander of the 3rd Regiment, 6th Marine Battalion.

“They infiltrate at night and fire at us. They keep on the move.” During an inspection of his troops, Alford points with his cigar toward Syria, about 15 kilometers to the west. “They come across the border.” Capt. Brendan Heaterman, in charge of Kilo company which overlooks Al-Qaim, says “if they shoot at us, I don’t care where they are or coming from — we will kill them.”

According to Col. Stephen Davis: “We kill an average of 10 a day for the last 20 days. But they keep coming and keep doing the same stupid things.” A Marine looks from behind sandbags and through bullet-proof windows at rooftops on the east side of the city, where white flags fly amid laundry that has been hung out to dry. A gutted car lies in the street and an orange and white taxi that was crushed by a tank has been recycled into a barricade, while stray dogs scavenge for something to fill their bony bodies.

“We are seeing people coming back,” Alford says, but only to the eastern side of the city of 100,000 people. The western half closer to the Syrian border is constantly infiltrated. A few cars circulate in the city with white flags attached to their radio antennas. When a US convoy approaches, they pull over to the side of the road. Checkpoints guard the road southeast from Al-Qaim toward the insurgent strongholds of Ramadi and Fallujah, and are manned by Marines, and soldiers of the First Iraqi Brigade.
This was via AFP. I'll wager such honest talk will be spun to death by most outlets.
Posted by: .com || 10/27/2005 02:16 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  200 o'er 20 days - good job! As in Vietnam most of these fighters are tragically the poor and uneducated, and being given/fed super-PC Islam-oriented feel-good words like "democracy" and "God" and "unity" and "rights of the people" and "America is [always]the Problem", etc. when what they are really dying for is at best the hated status quo, at worst more militant, bloody Islamist Totalitarianism, Intolerance and Despotism.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/27/2005 3:21 Comments || Top||

#2  I contrast this to yesterday's Lt. Col. who calls in the lawyers when he has a potential target.
Glad to see it look's like somebody over there knows how to fight a war.
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/27/2005 13:09 Comments || Top||

#3  blankets that mask their movements?

What sort of things are those Marines doing under their blankets? Will Boy Scouts be able to buy them at the Army-Navy store after the war? Can they be put over starships and used as cloaking garments?

Enquiring minds want to know.
Posted by: Sholutch Glolulet2030 || 10/27/2005 13:49 Comments || Top||

#4  behind, not under. Get your terms right before trying to be clever.

Glad to see it look's like somebody over there knows how to fight a war.

Different ROEs.
Posted by: lotp || 10/27/2005 13:52 Comments || Top||

#5  Then change the ROEs.
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/27/2005 16:51 Comments || Top||


Up to 11 Iraqis killed in bus explosion
Some 11 Iraqis were killed on Tuesday as a result of an explosion in a small passenger bus, which occurred in the city of Baaqouba, some 60 kilometers north of Baghdad, a source close to the Iraqi police said. It added that the incident occurred when a suicide attacker detonated an explosive belt he was wearing as he was riding in the bus. "All passengers on board the KIA bus were killed," the source, which preferred to remain anonymous, said. "Other vehicles around the bus were also damaged," the source added. The police cordoned off the area around the incident. An investigation was started into the explosion.
Posted by: Fred || 10/27/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Steer the fence over another 110 acres of Palestinian land. When they are all crowded onto a postage stamp, just wait for for one of their vest bombers to hiccup and start the party.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/27/2005 0:30 Comments || Top||

#2  Mmm! This a report from Iraq.

Zenster, I have left you alone since you came back, but do us all a favour and tone down the kill them all rhetoric. It makes The Burg look like a hate site, which it is not.
Posted by: phil_b || 10/27/2005 5:11 Comments || Top||

#3  It's getting awfully close though.
Posted by: Tholunter Clomble || 10/27/2005 5:26 Comments || Top||

#4  Phil,

While I agree in principle, I'm beginning to believe we need to kill a LOT MORE of the idiots who believe killing Americans will get them into "heaven". Sometimes the only way to win is to eliminate the opposition. We can only win the hearts and minds of those not already contaminated by the "hate America", "we have to be in charge" mob. The rest have to be eliminated.

I do agree that discussing Paleostains in an Iraqi thread is a bit off-topic - unless they're in Iraq.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/27/2005 14:56 Comments || Top||

#5  Is there something wrong with hating terrorists and their supporters?
Posted by: Darrell || 10/27/2005 14:59 Comments || Top||

#6  Darrell - Didn't you get the moral equivalence memo? It's in the MultiCulti creed, bro.

KrazyKultKillers = [insert your society here]
Posted by: .com || 10/27/2005 15:12 Comments || Top||


Twenty militants arrested in Baghdad's Hurriyah district - MoD
The Iraqi Ministry of Defense announced Wednesday that 20 militants have been arrested in raids in Baghdad's Hurriyah district. "An army taskforce carried out several raids in Baghdad's Hurriyah district this morning and arrested 20 suspects and seized three machineguns and three empty magazines," the ministry said in a press release.

In separate developments, the Ministry of interior said commando forces killed four "terrorists" entrenched in two houses in Baghdad's Al-Mansour suburb Tuesday. An Interior Ministry statement said a number of other terrorists were arrested in the raids. A commando soldier was killed and four sustained wounds, the statement went on.
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Gunmen assassinate head of Baghdad museum
Armed men assassinated Wednesday an official of the Iraqi Culture Ministry's tourist institution, said Iraqi police. The police told KUNA that gunmen assassinated Nabeel al Moussaoui by opening fire on him while he was driving his car heading to his work at Baghdad museum. The assault also killed the driver of Moussaoui, who used to be the manager of one of the most important museums here. In another incident, gunmen opened fire on cars of guards of the Financial Resources Minister Abdullatif Rasheed. The assault caused no injuries.

In the meantime, the Iraqi authorities destroyed a memorial built in the capital accusing Iran of torturing Iraqi prisoners during the eight years of the Iraqi-Iranian war that had erupted in 1980. A statement by the Higher National De-Baathification Commission, which supervised the memorial elimination process, said that the memorial represented a lie created by the ousted regime to justify the war. "It represented the regime's ideology and political aims," said the statement.
Posted by: Fred || 10/27/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What's his value in the scheme of things... Refuse to give them portable stuff to sell?
Posted by: 3dc || 10/27/2005 0:03 Comments || Top||

#2  Perhaps the key word here is 'culture'? - something that flourished in the Arab world prior to the intellectual poverty of subservience to Islam.
Posted by: Howard UK || 10/27/2005 5:46 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Israel to launch sweep of Gaza?
WND. Salt as needed.

Just one month after Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon evacuated his country's military forces from the Gaza Strip, officially ending Israel's presence in the area, IDF troops are now deployed along the border preparing to reenter Gaza for a possible ground offensive that could take place within hours, WND has learned.

Jewish residents along the Israeli border with Gaza tell WND ground troops backed by IDF tanks began amassing this morning and are currently on standby awaiting orders to enter the Gaza Strip. They say the army has warned Palestinian civilians to leave select northern Gaza areas routinely used by militants to fire rockets into nearby Israeli towns.

Senior IDF officials told WND Sharon and Israeli Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz have been meeting the past few hours to decide whether to send the ground forces into Gaza. They say any IDF ground incursion, which could be ordered tonight, would be limited in scope and duration, likely focusing on and near Beit Hanun in northern Gaza. "It will be in and out fast, a sweep of the area," said a senior IDF official speaking on condition of anonymity because he is not authorized to talk to the media on the matter.

Another IDF official, also speaking anonymously, said he doesn't think Sharon will make the call to send in the ground forces. "The fallout is too much diplomatically to re-enter Gaza," said the official. "We don't stand to gain enough from one isolated ground operation. Israel will look foolish having to go back into Gaza. The troops on the border may be for show, to warn the Palestinians what the next stage is if they continue their terrorism."

The possible operation comes in response to yesterday's suicide bombing in an open-air market in the coastal city of Hadera just north of Tel Aviv, killing five people and wounding more than two dozen others. Hadera has been a frequent target of bombings during the past five years. Islamic Jihad took responsibility for the blast. WND reported today sources close to the Al Asqa Martyrs Brigades, the military wing of Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas' Fatah Party, said their group was also involved in the suicide attack.

Sharon and Mofaz reportedly met last night and decided upon a two-prong military response: a focus on the Islamic Jihad West Bank infrastructure and the targeting of Qassam launch sites in Gaza.
Posted by: Jackal || 10/27/2005 20:49 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Israel to launch sweep of Gaza?

better bring plenty of Hefy Bags. no blowers!
Posted by: Red Dog || 10/27/2005 20:59 Comments || Top||

#2  Bulldoze the whole motha'f****n mess into the Med but you'd probably have to file an enviromental inpact statement
Posted by: Cheaderhead || 10/27/2005 22:29 Comments || Top||


Breaking: IAF Airstrike kills 7 in Gaza
Car swarm in progress live on Fox
More info from Rooters:JABALYA, Gaza Strip (Reuters) - Israel killed an Islamic Jihad leader and six other Palestinians in an air strike in Gaza on Thursday, hours after Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon vowed a broad offensive against Palestinian militants. A missile blew apart a car carrying Shadi Mhanna in Jabalya refugee camp, witnesses said. At least one of the other Palestinians killed was also an Islamic Jihad militant. Ten people, among them bystanders, were wounded.

It was the deadliest such strike since March 2004, when Israeli missiles killed Hamas founder Sheikh Ahmed Yassin and seven others in Gaza.

Hopes that Israel's recent pullout from Gaza could promote peace talks had been dented on Wednesday when an Islamic Jihad suicide bomber killed five Israelis. The militant group said that attack was revenge for Israel's killing of its top West Bank planner.

Sharon said there could be no advance toward peace for now because of the "absolute failure of the Palestinian Authority in the fight against terrorism," and promised to launch a major military operation expected to focus on the occupied West Bank. "Our action will be broad and will not stop until it brings about a cessation of terrorism," Sharon said ahead of a meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov in Tel Aviv.

U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice urged Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in a phone call to do more to rein in militants, and Sharon ruled out talks with Abbas until he took "serious action" against armed groups. Abbas has so far preferred to negotiate with armed groups rather than attempting to disarm them by force.

Israel's military confirmed it had killed Mhanna. Earlier, its planes struck Gaza in what Israel called an effort to stop rocket fire from the territory. There were no casualties.
Posted by: Frank G || 10/27/2005 14:36 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  head of IJ in Gaza purported killed by airstrike after "evening prayers"
Posted by: Frank G || 10/27/2005 14:44 Comments || Top||

#2  Apparently he didn't pray hard enough...
Posted by: Raj || 10/27/2005 14:45 Comments || Top||

#3  I wonder which god answered who's prayers?

Methinks Yahweh won out in this round.
Posted by: mmurray821 || 10/27/2005 14:47 Comments || Top||

#4  head of IJ in Gaza purported killed by airstrike after "evening prayers"

Manna from heaven to my ears.
Posted by: Xbalanke || 10/27/2005 14:49 Comments || Top||

#5 
guess allah willed it again...

now we gotta suffer through the jihad revenge cliches.
Posted by: macofromoc || 10/27/2005 14:55 Comments || Top||

#6  21:09 Islamic Jihad spokesman vows painful, immediate response to IAF strike in Gaza (AP)
Posted by: Ebbomosing Omiter6892 || 10/27/2005 15:21 Comments || Top||

#7  more from JPost:
A helicopter gunship fired a rocket into a vehicle in Gaza's Jabalya refugee camp Thursday night, immediately killing a wanted Islamic Jihad terrorist and several others in the car.

The Associated Press reported a total of five dead in the attack.

Military sources confirmed the strike, but would not immediately release further details.

Palestinians identified the killed activist as Shadi Mohanna, a commander of the al-Quds military branch of the Islamic Jihad. Shehada was responsible for the development and launching of Kassam rockets at Israeli targets.

Posted by: Frank G || 10/27/2005 15:24 Comments || Top||

#8  Abbas has refused to crack down on armed groups such as Islamic Jihad, fearing civil war.

Maybe he's letting...somebody...do it for him? The Israeli's always seem to know exactly where these mooks are when they want to take them out.
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/27/2005 15:28 Comments || Top||

#9  Q: What do you call a car driven by Islamic Jihadis?

A: A hearse.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/27/2005 15:33 Comments || Top||

#10  thes part of werld withowt zionism program?
Posted by: muck4doo || 10/27/2005 15:47 Comments || Top||

#11  apparently withdrawing their presence from Gaza didn't stop their intel, huh?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/27/2005 16:10 Comments || Top||

#12  9 Q: What do you call a car driven by Islamic Jihadis?

A: A hearse.

Q: How many Wahhbi Islamists can you fit into a BMW?

Nine -- two up front, three in the back, and four in the ash tray.
Posted by: Uleating Wheagum6743 || 10/27/2005 16:40 Comments || Top||

#13 
IAF Missles - why do they hate us
Posted by: macofromoc || 10/27/2005 17:09 Comments || Top||

#14  JPost needs better reporting. Something in-your-face, like:

"Allah guides IDF gunship missile to target eager for martyrdom. Local virgins had no comment."
Posted by: Master of Obvious || 10/27/2005 18:20 Comments || Top||

#15  Palestoastians.
Posted by: Pappy || 10/27/2005 20:07 Comments || Top||


Israel Troops Arrest Islamic Jihad Leader
Israeli troops entered this West Bank town Thursday and witnesses said they arrested a local leader of Islamic Jihad, pushing forward with an offensive against the Palestinian militant group following a suicide bombing that killed five Israelis.
Cause, meet effect...
About 35 jeeps, backed by Apache helicopters, entered Jenin in the afternoon, and troops surrounded the home of Abdel Khalim Izzadin. After a brief standoff, Izzadin and three other men surrendered to troops, witnesses said.
"Abdel, come out witcher hands up!"
"You'll never take me alive, coppers!"
"Moshe, bring up the tanks!"
"Lemme get my coat! I'll be out in a sec!"
The army confirmed it had carried out an operation in Jenin, and said the troops were withdrawing. Israel launched an offensive against Islamic Jihad earlier Thursday, a day after the suicide bombing at an outdoor market in central Israel. Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the attack.
"We dunnit!"
Prime Minister Ariel Sharon had promised a "broad and nonstop" response to the bombing. The offensive will include airstrikes and artillery attacks in Gaza and arrest raids in the northern West Bank, where Wednesday's bomber came from. As a last resort, Israel could re-enter Gaza. Israeli media reported that troops would also retake Palestinian towns, and conduct house-to-house searches.
"Hey! That's no fair! Help! Help! We're being oppressed!"
The threatened Israeli response to the bombing in the central town of Hadera ratcheted up pressure on Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas to confront militant groups.
Yeah. He's gonna do that.
Abbas has refused to crack down on armed groups such as Islamic Jihad, fearing civil war.
That means he's afraid somebody'll kill him.
Sharon said the military operation was necessary because of Abbas' refusal to take action and said it would be impossible to resume peace talks until the Palestinians rein in the militants. "Unfortunately the Palestinian Authority has not taken any serious action to battle terrorism," Sharon said before meeting the visiting Russian foreign minister, Sergey Lavrov. "We will not accept under any circumstances a continuation of terrorism. Therefore our activities will be broad and nonstop until they halt terrorism. The state of Israel would very much have liked to move peace efforts forward. To my regret, as long as terror continues we shall not be able to move forward as we would have wished."
"We've been doing this for years. Another few dozen won't make that much difference."
The four airstrikes in the Gaza Strip targeted open fields used by militants to fire rockets, the army said.
Oh, open fields! That oughta do it, by Gum!
Islamic Jihad said Wednesday's bombing was to avenge the killing of one of its West Bank leaders earlier in the week.
... who was bumped off in response to...?
The suicide bombing embarrassed Abbas, who hours before the attack demanded that the militant groups stop violating a cease-fire declared in February.
... thereby showing himself once again to be an ineffectual figurehead, firmly grasping the spokes of a disconnected wheel.
The small Islamic Jihad group signed on to the truce last spring but has repeatedly flouted the cease-fire by claiming it has the right to retaliate for any perceived Israeli violations. It has carried out four suicide bombings inside Israel since the truce.
... which renders the truce non-existent.
The much larger Hamas militant group, which plans to run in January parliamentary elections, has largely scaled back its attacks since the truce declaration. In contrast, Islamic Jihad is not participating in the vote and has much less to lose by continuing to attack Israel. Israeli officials accused archenemies Iran and Syria of assisting the attackers, noting that Islamic Jihad is funded by Tehran and is headquartered in Damascus. "This infrastructure is murderous and we will try to deal with it and silence it," Amos Gilad, a senior Defense Ministry official, told Israel Radio.
Assad must be so very happy right about now...
The attack came hours after Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad praised suicide bombings and said Israel should be "wiped off the map."
Even Kofi noticed that one...
Sharon called for Iran to be tossed out of the United Nations for the president's comments, which drew wide international condemnation.
... but it'll all have evaporated in a week or so.
Sharon made the call during a meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. "The prime minister said that a state which calls for the destruction of another people cannot be a member of the United Nations," according to a statement released by his office.
I expect some action to be taken any moment now... [Silence]... Yup. Any moment... [More silence]... Annnny time, now...
Sharon and Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz approved the latest offensive in a series of overnight telephone calls, Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said. "Islamic Jihad has declared war on every Israeli civilian and of course we're 100 percent entitled to take the appropriate action to defend our civilians," Regev said. "Ultimately, Israel still hopes the Palestinian Authority will follow through on their own commitments to disarm these groups and that will make the necessity for Israeli action superfluous."
"We're just saying that to be polite, of course. We know they're not gonna do squat, but we have to go through the motions..."
Israeli media compared the operation to Operation Defensive Shield of April 2002, launched in response to a suicide bombing in a hotel that killed 29 Israelis on the eve of the Jewish holiday of Passover. During that offensive, Israel retook control of Palestinian towns and cities, killing and arresting dozens of militants in house-to-house arrest sweeps. In more than two weeks of fighting, 208 Palestinians and 25 Israeli soldiers were killed.
I doubt this operation will be of that scope, though. If it is, it's likely Abbas is gonna get tossed and Kaddoumi could end up in charge...
Capt. Yael Hartmann, an army spokeswoman, said security services were bracing for more attacks planned by Islamic Jihad. As part of its response, Israel sealed off its crossings with Gaza and declared a complete closure on the West Bank. The measure prevents laborers from entering Israel, keeps Palestinians from visiting relatives in Israeli prisons, and blocked Palestinian goods from exports. The closure came just a day after similar restrictions, in effect for the monthlong period of Jewish holidays, had been lifted.
My heart bleeds... No. Wait. That's the chili...
In Qabatiyeh, the suicide bomber's hometown, the army arrested the attacker's father overnight along with four other Islamic Jihad militants, Palestinian security officials said. The army confirmed the arrests, but declined to say whether the bomber's father had been detained. The bomber, Hassan Abu Zeid, 20, attacked a food stand in Hadera's open-air marketplace, killing five Israelis and wounding 30. Three people remained in critical condition Thursday.
Posted by: lotp || 10/27/2005 09:50 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Izzadin and three other men surrendered to troops

paleos go down like lions crack hos.
Posted by: Red Dog || 10/27/2005 10:45 Comments || Top||

#2  The suicide bombing embarrassed Abbas, who hours before the attack demanded that the militant groups stop violating a cease-fire declared in February

Gee Mahmoud, your mustache is looking a little droopy today...
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/27/2005 11:25 Comments || Top||

#3  How about this for the organized Arab Muslim Nazi - "DEBKAfile Exclusive: The Hadera suicide bomber spent 10 days in a safe house in Israel before his murderous attack

October 27, 2005, 12:14 PM (GMT+02:00)

Hassan Abu Zeid 20, who murdered 5 Israelis and injured 30, when he detonated a large bomb at a falafel stand in the Hadera open market,on Oct. 26, left his home in Kabatya, Jenin, Sunday Oct. 16, ten days earlier – or Oct 17 at latest. He headed straight for a safe house prepared for him in an Israeli Arab village of the Triangle, which abuts the northern West Bank. This is reported by DEBKAfile’s exclusive counter-terror sources. This fact contradicts the Jihad Islami claim that the Hadera attack, like the Qassam missile bombardment, was staged in revenge for the death of its West Bank leader Louai Saadi, who died in a shootout with Israeli troops on Oct 24. The more likely triggers were the 10th anniversary of the liquidation of the Jihad Islami founder Fathi Shkaki by the Mossad in Malta and the gigantic Jerusalem Day march planned in Tehran and Beirut for Friday, Oct. 28.

Our intelligence sources have reconstructed Abu Zeid’s likely movements prior to the attack: On his way to the safe house, he took leave of his family in Beitunya, Ramallah, after which he is thought to have stolen into Israel by way of the local goods crossing. At that point, he carried no weapons or explosives. A car collected him on the Israeli side. It was driven by Israeli Arabs who took him to the safe house. The explosives laced with ball bearings that he detonated in Hadera had been smuggled to an Israeli Arab community weeks, possibly months, before the suicide killer picked them up. Quantities of explosives may still be cached with Israeli Arab communities, hidden there by Palestinian terrorist groups to overcome searches at IDF roadblocks at the border. " What would you do about this?
Posted by: Bardo || 10/27/2005 12:57 Comments || Top||

#4  I hope the IDF puts Izzadin in a brand new suit and stuffs his pockets full of cash and cigars before blowing kisses his way when they release him back to his comrades.

"Thanks Abdel, you were a big help. Glad we had a chance to talk! We'll see you soon, pal.

... Mwaaaah"

Then see how long he lasts. Bet he doesn't even get to finish one of the cigars.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/27/2005 13:55 Comments || Top||

#5  And put some C4 in the cigars.
Posted by: JFM || 10/27/2005 14:26 Comments || Top||

#6  LOL Zenster, that idea is a classic.
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 10/27/2005 14:31 Comments || Top||

#7  I think the way it will work is that IDF will take out some of the leaders of a competing faction, release him, and have DEBKA attribute the take out to intelligence provided by him.
Posted by: Spairong Gloluse7100 || 10/27/2005 14:39 Comments || Top||


Sharon threatens major offensive after attack
Ariel Sharon, Israeli prime minister, on Thursday threatened a major military offensive against Palestinian militants after an Islamic Jihad suicide bomber killed five people in the coastal town of Hadera.

“Our action will be broad and will not stop until it brings about a cessation of terrorism,” he said, shortly after Israeli planes fired missiles at areas of the northern Gaza Strip from which militants have launched rockets and mortars into Israel.

Mr Sharon, who last month oversaw the unilateral withdrawal of settlers and soldiers from Gaza, said there could be no moves towards peace with the Palestinians for the time being because of what he called the absolute failure of the Palestinian Authority to fight terrorism.

The open-ended Israeli offensive was likely to target Islamic Jihad activists in the northern West Bank. The army on Thursday arrested the father of the 21-year-old Hadera bomber and nine other suspects.

They were the latest of several hundred suspects who have been rounded up in the West Bank since the Gaza withdrawal.

Islamic Jihad is a small military organization that does not share the electoral aspirations of Hamas, a larger Islamic movement.

The Islamic Jihad bomber blew himself up at a market in Hadera on Wednesday, two days after the Palestinian group’s West Bank commander was shot dead in an Israeli army raid.

It was the first such attack inside Israeli since August 28 and since Israel withdrew settlers and soldiers from the Gaza Strip the following month.

Islamic Jihad threatened retaliation after an undercover unit killed Luay Sa’adi, its West Bank military commander, and Majed Askar, another militant, in an operation in Tulkarem, about 12 miles south-east of Hadera.

The army said the two men were responsible for the deaths of at least 10 Israelis.

The bombing followed tension on the border between Israel and Gaza, as the army shelled militant targets in response to Islamic Jihad rocket attacks from the territory.

Islamic Jihad and other militant groups agreed to abide by a period of calm at the start of this year but reserved the right to retaliate against what they considered Israeli aggression.

Mahmoud Abbas, Palestinian Authority president, in a statement delivered hours before Wednesday’s bombing, condemned this selective strategy and said: “No one has the right to respond here and there, unilaterally.”

Addressing the Palestinian cabinet, he said: “The occupation is criminal but we cannot give Israel excuses to attack us.”

Mr Abbas, who last week held talks in Washington with President George W. Bush, is under strong US and Israeli pressure to crack down on militants, but has so far resisted demands to disarm them by force.

This year there has been a marked reduction in attacks inside Israel that Palestinian officials say is a consequence of the truce by militants.

Israeli officials say security forces continue to receive warnings of planned attacks and that the relative calm is thanks to the security barrier that now encloses most of the West Bank.

Hadera, where Israel’s coastal strip is at its narrowest, was a frequent target of attacks earlier in the Palestinian uprising that began five years ago.
Posted by: lotp || 10/27/2005 09:20 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Threatens? Just do it. How many more dead Israelis are required before enough is enough?
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 10/27/2005 11:43 Comments || Top||

#2  will it ever end, nah... they just like to kill each other too much.
Posted by: bk || 10/27/2005 12:18 Comments || Top||

#3  Low class Troll alert! Once upon a time the various species of Trolls were described here, but I can't remember them now. Frank G, .com, do you remember?
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/27/2005 14:18 Comments || Top||


Israeli Troops Surround Extremist's Home
JENIN, West Bank (AP) - Dozens of Israeli troops entered this West Bank town Thursday and surrounded the home of a local leader of Islamic Jihad, pushing forward with an offensive against the Palestinian militant group following a suicide bombing that killed five Israelis.
About 35 jeeps, backed by Apache helicopters, entered Jenin on Thursday afternoon. Shots were heard as the troops took up positions around the home of Abdel Khalim Izzadin.
"Abdel! Come out and plaaaay!"
Israel launched an offensive against Islamic Jihad earlier Thursday, a day after a suicide bombing killed five Israelis at an outdoor market in central Israel. The army did not immediately comment.
Posted by: Steve || 10/27/2005 09:10 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Why waste 35 Jeeps when one JDAM will do the job?
Would Abdel soon meet the 72 Virgins(TM)?
Posted by: Elder of Zion || 10/27/2005 9:22 Comments || Top||

#2  They intend to set the place ablase and have a big marshmellow roast and song fest.
Posted by: wxjames || 10/27/2005 9:54 Comments || Top||

#3  more like arrest him, then after a couple of years and everyone is cought up in the next HUDNA they release him in a act of good will only to have him recruit build back up for the next Intafada.

Ohhh the "cycle of violence" If we only would just kill our enemies after we interrogated them and killed thier friends family and deciples. At least after time the next wave would be weaker and starting from scratch while our side grew with experience and ability. Old vertrans is what carry a war effort, young bucks while ballsy and willing to fight are not much more than cannon fodder without the old seasoned vets guidence and advice.
Posted by: C-Low || 10/27/2005 10:46 Comments || Top||

#4  Drag him out in the street and shoot him. Several times. Then go find 3 more IJ "leaders" and repeat.
Posted by: mojo || 10/27/2005 10:54 Comments || Top||

#5  He's Number Three with a bullet..
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/27/2005 11:32 Comments || Top||

#6  Deploy explosive remote controlled "suicide" pigs.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/27/2005 12:28 Comments || Top||

#7  This guy is guilty of the deaths of dozens of Israelis, either directly or indirectly. Catch him, wring him dry, and then hang him somewhere along the border for a week or so. Let the entire world know that this will be the fate of every suicide bomber, murderer, thug leader, or other "paleostain" nutjob Israel can catch. One of two things will happen: Israel will run out of rope, or the paleostains will run out of nutjobs and thugs. Rope is cheap.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/27/2005 15:10 Comments || Top||

#8  Hey, hey, hey, let's not forget the whole point of a "cascade" raid...

How many guys can he squeal on? :D
Posted by: Edward Yee || 10/27/2005 21:15 Comments || Top||

#9  plyers graphic?
Posted by: 2b || 10/27/2005 21:35 Comments || Top||

#10  pliers
Posted by: 2b || 10/27/2005 21:35 Comments || Top||


Israeli warplanes pound sand up Gaza after suicide attack
GAZA (Reuters) - Israeli warplanes fired missiles into the Gaza Strip on Thursday, targeting Palestinian militant sites hours after a suicide bomber killed five people in a crowded Israeli market. The Israeli military said it launched the air strike to prevent militants from firing rockets into the Jewish state during the worst flare-up of violence since Israel withdrew from Gaza last month after 38 years of occupation. Palestinian witnesses said Israel later launched a second air raid that damaged a road in northern Gaza. No casualties were reported in the air strikes, the third day running that Israel has mounted such action in response to Palestinian rocket attacks.

The air strikes occurred amid heightened tension over the suicide bombing in the Israeli coastal city of Hadera -- the first such attack since Israel's Gaza pullout and another blow to international hopes for a revival of peacemaking. Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility for the bombing, saying it was avenging Israel's killing of one of its top West Bank commanders on Monday, as the bloodshed threatened to unravel an already shaky cease-fire. Israeli Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz ordered a military operation in the northern West Bank, where Palestinian security sources said the bomber had come from.
Neither the Defense Ministry nor the army would disclose when such an assault would begin. The suicide bomber launched the attack in front of a sandwich stand in the main outdoor market in Hadera, a frequent target of attacks in a 5-year-old Palestinian uprising. Medics said five people were killed and 30 were wounded.

"BLOOD AND CHAOS"

"It was chaos, bodies and blood on the ground, people running everywhere," said Eduard Khanukai, 49, owner of a money exchange shop. The attack was the first bombing in the Jewish state since August 28, when a suicide bomber wounded 20 people in Beersheba. Israeli officials noted the attack followed remarks in Tehran by Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad that Israel should be "wiped off the map". "What makes these people dangerous is that their violent language is transformed into violent action," Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Mark Regev said. Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas condemned the bombing and pledged to try to salvage the truce he engineered earlier this year. "It harms the interest of the Palestinian people and leads to expansion of the cycle of violence," he said.

Fallout from Wednesday's blast was swift. Israel, which suspended security contacts after three young Jewish settlers were killed in a West Bank ambush last week, canceled a meeting between the Israeli and Palestinian transport ministers. Islamic Jihad, sworn to Israel's destruction, had vowed revenge after Israeli troops shot dead West Bank commander Loai Assadi, the most senior militant killed since the truce began. Khader Habib, an Islamic Jihad leader in Gaza, called the Hadera bombing "a natural reaction to crimes of the occupation".
Israel and the United States said the Palestinian Authority needed to rein in militants to push forward stalled peace talks. Abbas has so far preferred to negotiate with armed groups.

"The Palestinians need to prepare some real action to stop terrorism if they want to move the process forward," said a top Israeli official, who declined to be identified. "They condemn every attack and we bury our dead." Leaders from Islamic Jihad and several other militant groups in Gaza rejoiced at news of the bombing and vowed to continue responding to Israeli attacks against Palestinians despite the cease-fire. Asked about Abbas's condemnation of the bombing, an Islamic Jihad spokesman said: "Anyone who criticizes the resistance is a violator to the national consensus and stands beside the enemy."

Here's a solution:

For every Israeli who is wounded by Palestinian terrorism, another acre disappears behind the fence.

For every Israeli death at the hands of Palestinian terrorists, another ten acres disappears behind the fence.

Whenever a rocket or mortar is fired into Israel, a cluster bomb distributes anti-personnel mines over an acre that surrounds the launch site.

Whenever a mortar or rocket attack kills an Israeli citizen, a cluster bomb distributes anti-personnel mines over a ten-acre swath surrounding the launch site.

Let the Palestinians tiptoe through the minefield of their own making. If they love death so much, they should welcome the opportunity to die so readily as a result of their attacks. If they prove to be not-so-eager, let them begin to interdict these attacks. If they prove unable to, then Israel is certainly entitled to continue such a program unabated.

Can you tell my sympathy meter has fused?

Israel's withdrawal from Gaza was the utmost in good faith gestures. If its sole reward is more attacks, then let all Palestinians share in the joy.



Posted by: Zenster || 10/27/2005 00:14 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  You mean your sympathy meter actually had an input channel for the "Palestinians"?
Posted by: Juque Sperens1293 || 10/27/2005 1:33 Comments || Top||

#2  [and I used to be addicted to fairy tales]

Once upon a time.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/27/2005 1:40 Comments || Top||

#3  Here's my solution: Two years of restraint on Israel's part. No retaliation, no reprisals, nothing. Then go apeshit on Gaza (because there's no way the Palestinians will follow suit and restrain themselves for two years, that's a given). No excuses that way, and no apologies.
Posted by: Rafael || 10/27/2005 1:43 Comments || Top||

#4  Dunno why, mebbe it's one of those history lesson thingys, but I think it will only end when one side is totally wiped out. No reason I can see since 1948 to think otherwise. But that's just me.
Posted by: .com || 10/27/2005 1:45 Comments || Top||

#5  Hate to do this, but I agree with com. I see the mask completely unveiled with Syria and Iran, and their minions in PaleoLand and Lebanon.

In short, their cruisin' for a serious brusin'
Posted by: Captain America || 10/27/2005 2:41 Comments || Top||

#6  Just need to light up their world with bright flashes from the heavens.
Posted by: 3dc || 10/27/2005 2:54 Comments || Top||

#7  CA - Yeah, I hate it when you agree with me, too.
Posted by: .com || 10/27/2005 3:33 Comments || Top||

#8  The only good Palestinian is a dead Palistinian.
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 10/27/2005 4:32 Comments || Top||

#9  How come I have this feeling in my guts and a faint wisper in my ears going so: "The shite is going to hit the fan very very soon......??

Could it be the smug look upon Abu Maazen's face ?
or the bloody visions of the Hadera bombed market on TV ?

or maybe it's just the "Beauty of our Weapons" syndrom ?

I am sick and tired of the Pali's and I hope the velvet gloves are going to come off soon !
Posted by: Elder of Zion || 10/27/2005 7:42 Comments || Top||

#10  Two thousand pounders in the largest mosque during Friday prayers for each bombing. Oh, and extend the fence outward each time.
Posted by: ed || 10/27/2005 7:47 Comments || Top||

#11  And none of this wasting missiles on empty fields crap. It's as stupid as targeting cruise missiles at empty palaces when the US had to occupy them later anyway. Time to think like the Palis and target the densest gatherings of those homicidal lemmings.
Posted by: ed || 10/27/2005 7:51 Comments || Top||

#12  Ed,
you really nailed us down on this.
It seems the bombing of empty field crap number used by Mofaz and Sharon (for internal political reasons)is kind of growing stale.
If I were Abu Maazen I would buy a good insurance policy (including a generous "act of hostility" indemnification clause).
Its high time to give the Palestinian stables a very thorough cleaning.
I hope we go really aggressive on them soon.
Posted by: Elder of Zion || 10/27/2005 8:07 Comments || Top||

#13  Somehow we need to get the Palestinians out of the West Bank as we don't want to destroy valuable resources. I like the idea of taking an acre of land away or maybe deport them to Gaza. Build a lead fence and it would only take one nuke.
Posted by: Danielle || 10/27/2005 10:14 Comments || Top||

#14  The West Bank has valuable resources? Who knew?
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/27/2005 14:20 Comments || Top||

#15  .com is right. But his solution is too close to being the final one. That's why Israel will never adopt it.

I still like the idea of buying Baja California from Mexico, about the same size and the same climate as Israel. Bring 'em all over and give them $50,000 per person. Let them decide if they want to be an independent country, 51st state, or part of Mexico. Let the Paleos seeth.

The only other alternative is continued war till the Paleo population bomb takes effect.
Posted by: Angolush Thruter6981 || 10/27/2005 14:33 Comments || Top||

#16  Jordan river water.
Posted by: ed || 10/27/2005 14:36 Comments || Top||

#17  ed, I trust you were referring to Israeli retaliation strategy and not my own cluster bomb suggestion. Sowing small minefields over every launch point would certainly send a strong message to the Palestinians. Even if it were not minefields but merely some truly vicious non-ferrous caltrops that would deflate tractor tires and lacerate feet or livestock hooves, the results would still be acceptable.

I don't see much argument over steering the fence, so I'll leave that one where it stands.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/27/2005 16:02 Comments || Top||

#18  Zen,
I was referring to the Israeli tactic of firing expensive missiles into empty fields. Might as well as take $100,000 and set it on fire. As for scattering mines, I am against it. The opposition will disarm the mines and use them against the Israelis.
Posted by: ed || 10/27/2005 18:04 Comments || Top||

#19  Good points, ed, I'll go with the caltrops then. Either that or simply salt the earth with herbicides or whatnot. There must be some sort of punitive measure.

Killing non-combatants isn't the best solution. However, since a majority of Palestinians support the aims of Hamas and al Aqsa, I'm beginning to think that there are no Palestinian non-combatants. Much like the way they regard the Israeli population.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/27/2005 19:10 Comments || Top||

#20  On sending the Palestinians to Mexico -

What have you got against the Mexicans ?
Posted by: buwaya || 10/27/2005 22:10 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Rajah Soliman leader captured
Security forces yesterday said they have captured at least seven terror suspects, including the leader of a group tied to the Jemaah Islamiyah, during a raid in the southern Philippines.

Officials paraded the captured leader Hilarion Santos, a Christian convert who allegedly heads the radical group called the Rajah Soliman Movement, blamed by the military for the series of bombings in Manila since 2000.

The military also implicated Santos in the kidnapping of 21 mostly Asian and Western holiday-makers in Sipadan island resort off Sabah, Malaysia in 2000 and a foiled bombing in Manila in 2003.

Officials said security forces were also tracking down a policeman assigned in Jolo island, Sam Hamdol, also a member of the group, who was able to escape during the raid on their hideout before sunrise.

Southern Philippines military chief Lt. Gen. Edilberto Adan said among those captured were Santos’ wife Narumruja Amdal and his son Yasser. A military report said another woman was also arrested.

Adan said the Rajah Soliman is the most radical group next to the Abu Sayyaf and that the group has cells across the country.

“We have established that Santos and his Rajah Soliman group is tied to Jemaah Islamiyah and the Abu Sayyaf. There is an ongoing operation to track down other members of the group hiding in the southern Philippines,” Adan said.

He said the raiders seized at least 49 rounds of anti-tank rockets and ammunition and an M16 automatic rifle fitted with a silencer.

A computer and radio sets were also seized from the group’s hideout.

Santos’ group, composed mostly of Christians from the main northern Luzon island, is believed to have forged an alliance with the Abu Sayyaf and Jemaah Islamiyah — two Al-Qaeda-linked groups suspected of bombings in the Philippines and Southeast Asia, police intelligence officials said.

Abu Sayyaf rebels and Filipino Islamic converts trained by Jemaah Islamiyah bomb experts from Indonesia are suspected of last year’s bombing that ignited an inferno aboard a ferry, killing 116 people in the country’s worst terrorist attack.

Santos is believed to have received bomb training from Jemaah Islamiyah in the southern Philippines in 2000, said police official Rodolfo Mendoza.

Santos told military interrogators that he arrived in Zamboanga City after hiding from the military in Talayan town in Maguindanao province, where his group was protected by Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) rebels.

The MILF strongly denied it provided sanctuary to Santos nor to any of his followers. “The MILF will not provide any sanctuary to terrorists or those who are advocating terrorism. The MILF has repeatedly denounced terrorism and we are helping the government fight terrorism,” separatist spokesman Eid Kabalu said.

But he was quick to say that his group would investigate the military’s claim. “We will work closely with the Philippine government and investigate this allegation,” he said. The commander of a military anti-terror task force, Col. Edgardo Gidaya, said civilians tipped off the authorities about the presence of suspicious men that led to the capture of Santos and his followers.

Philippine Army chief Lt. Gen. Hermogenes Esperon ordered troops to stay vigilant and intensify the campaign against terrorism. “We should always remain alert and vigilant and intensify our operation against terrorism and other threats to our security, like the communist insurgency,” Esperon said.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/27/2005 03:07 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Santos’ group, composed mostly of Christians from the main northern Luzon island, is believed to have forged an alliance with the Abu Sayyaf and Jemaah Islamiyah — two Al-Qaeda-linked groups suspected of bombings in the Philippines and Southeast Asia, police intelligence officials said.

Of course, the journalist doesn't tell us why such an unlikely alliance was formed. That would require actual... reporting.
Posted by: 2b || 10/27/2005 3:24 Comments || Top||

#2  given some of these, cough, cough, movements, cough - "because" might be the only reason.
Posted by: 3dc || 10/27/2005 3:42 Comments || Top||

#3  I actually had to leave the hotel bar, twice, to make phone calls (busted during the last press party) on this and now you want me to explain where I came up with this improbable pile of monkey dung? Sheesh. So, like you think you're my editor or somethin?

-30-
Posted by: .Reportin B Hard || 10/27/2005 3:44 Comments || Top||

#4  Reportin B Hard, made me smile.
Posted by: phil_b || 10/27/2005 5:37 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Revolutionary Guard Backs President Over Israel
Tehran, 27 Oct. (AKI) - In a gesture of support for Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Islamic Revolutionary guards on Thursday joined his recent and controversial call for Israel to be "wiped off the map". "If this cancer (Israel) is not removed from the Islamic world, Muslims will sustain immense harm," said their spokesman, Seyyed Massoud Jazayeri. Ahmadinejad made his remarks at a Palestinian solidarity conference in Tehran on Wednesday, provoking angry condemnation from Western nations.

"This wound was opened more than half a century ago and has still not been healed, because in the Islamic world, some leaders and regimes, which have not been democratically elected by their own people, continue to rule, with the help of Western imperialism," Jazayeri continued.
Iran's elections being the model for democratically elected despots everywehere

"A world without Zionism, and the obliteration of Israel from the face of the earth, is not only the objective of Iran, but of the whole Muslim world," he added, pointing out that these goals had been underlined by the country's revolutionary leader, Ayatollah Khomeini, more than 20 years ago.
We noticed, but thanks for pointng that out
"At the time, many thought they were just propaganda slogans, but by reiterating them now, president Ahmadinejad has reminded us that they involve a strategy shared by most of the Islamic world," Jazayeri noted.
Again, our thanks

Iran's foreign minister, Manouchehr Mottaki has sent a circular to the country's diplomats - many of who have beeen summoned by the Western nations to provide explanation for Ahmadinejad's comments - to "go on the offensive".
They've got their talking points
"You should present yourselves to the authorities in the countries where you live, to strongly protest against the indifference shown by Western nations to the suffering of the Palestinian people and urge Europe's condemnation of Israel," the circular read.
Posted by: Steve || 10/27/2005 16:23 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  When painting yourself into a corner Mahmoud, make sure the way out is behind you and not in front of you.
He wants Israel "wiped off the map". But he might've signed Iran's death warrant.
Posted by: tu3031 || 10/27/2005 16:40 Comments || Top||

#2  "If this cancer (Israel) is not removed from the Islamic world, Muslims will sustain immense harm,..."

That last part sure works for me.
Posted by: Xbalanke || 10/27/2005 16:47 Comments || Top||

#3  "which have not been democratically elected by their own people, continue to rule, with the help of Western imperialism," Jazayeri continued."
I know that I've read somewhere, that democratic elections where Un Islamic? Wierd religion.
Posted by: plainslow || 10/27/2005 16:48 Comments || Top||

#4  What is it about fascist regimes and goose stepping?
Posted by: Scott R || 10/27/2005 16:56 Comments || Top||

#5  some leaders and regimes, which have not been democratically elected by their own people, continue to rule, with the help of Western imperialism

wait. is this a slam against the saudis and syrians?

Posted by: PlanetDan || 10/27/2005 17:31 Comments || Top||

#6  this is EXACTLY why the (ineffectual, petrowhore) UN is supposed to act swiftly whenever a head of state says warlike things. Because if it doesn't, you get a groundswell of support from internal factions (in this case, from the army!!!)

Instead, annan expressed his "dismay"

what a slimeball sellout annan is.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 10/27/2005 17:33 Comments || Top||

#7  Can we bomb them now? :)
Posted by: djohn66 || 10/27/2005 17:58 Comments || Top||

#8  Let's make sure that the Revolutionary Guard is in the tent when the "camel sticks his nose inside."

[wink ... wink ... nudge ... nudge]
Posted by: Zenster || 10/27/2005 18:29 Comments || Top||

#9  What is it about fascist regimes and goose stepping?

It's because the facists mess their pants.
Posted by: Captain America || 10/27/2005 18:56 Comments || Top||

#10  The nuts in Iran are starting to really step out and show themselves. This is wonderful. There are a lot of sane people in that country (most of whom have relatives in LA). They are not going to take kindly to being further marginalized by these idiots. Internal dissension should increase. Now is the time to arm the underground. Kill these goose stepping assholes. Today!
Posted by: remoteman || 10/27/2005 19:27 Comments || Top||

#11  It's going to start coming down fast and furious now. We're rapidly coming to an impossible fork in the road. Either we nuke Iran ourselves to take the nutballs and their nukes out, or we stand back and let Israel do it. Problem with that is that they'll probably take Cairo, Damascus, Riyadh, Beirut, Mecca, Jiddah and the Aswan Dam out at the same time. Heck, why wouldn't they? If they're going to go nuke, they might as well go full scale preemptive. Why leave any of their enemies standing? Would the world treat them any worse if they nuked the whole of the above list than if they only nuked Iran? I suspect they're sitting in Jerusalem saying "in for a penny, in for a pound."
Posted by: mac || 10/27/2005 20:47 Comments || Top||

#12  I recall that during WW2 we (USA) made a small .45 cal pistol from cheap stampings, equipped it with two .35 ball cartridges, a picture/instruction sheet showing how to get yourself a brand new German made Schmeisser, and dropped them by mini-parachute into the occupied (By Germany) territories by the hundred-thousands.

I think the time has come to repeat the idea, with the drop inside Iran this time.

Should destabilize the ruling party nicely.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 10/27/2005 20:56 Comments || Top||

#13  And what rough beast, it's hour come round at last
slouches towards Bethlehem Tehran to be born?
Posted by: Snoluque Thriger8918 || 10/27/2005 21:50 Comments || Top||

#14  .. to strongly protest against the indifference shown by Western nations to the suffering of the Palestinian people..

Bullshit.
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 10/27/2005 23:02 Comments || Top||


Islamic Army of Iran threatens to kill journalists for Ahmadinejad
A self-styled Islamic Army in Iran has said it would like to elminate 210 journalists in the country. The list, recently circulated in Tehran, includes almost all the independent journalists who have not been recognised by the new government of hardline president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. In the few lines preceding the long list of dissident journalists, the authorities promise "to liberate the Islamic revolution" of Ayatollah Khomeini, which has been "taken hostage by the hacks who are in the service of the enemies of Islam." Anyone mentioned in the list "is worthy of death as much as enemies of Allah and his word."


However Mashaollah Shamselvaezin, the former director of independent newspapers who was banned from working as a journalist by Iran's judiciary, does not seen to be too concerned by the list.

"It is not the first time that they publish a similar list and even if sometimes someone is actually killed, we cannot take these threats too seriously," said Shamselvaezin in a telephone interview with Adnkronos International (AKI).

"The regime uses many means to prevent us journalists from expressing ourselves freely, and these death threats are just one of them," added Shamselvaezin, who founded the Association for Freedom of Press in Iran.

"While we still have judges such as Saiid Mortazavi who kills arrested journalists, like what happened to the photo journalist Zahra Kazemi, or locks them in a cell and throws away the key, as in the case of Akbar Ganji, this so-called Islamic Army does not really scare us," concluded the well-known Iranian journalist, who in the coming days will be in Italy.

In Tehran, the judiciary has continued targeting journalists. According to the newspaper "Rooz on Line", in the days before the list was published, six journalists were summoned by Saiid Mortazavi and accused of not respecting Islamic law. On many occasions the journalists and writers have been condemed under charges of consuming alcohol or having relationships outside of marriage.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/27/2005 03:20 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Okay, now I'm conflicted. If they altered their targeting to suit me, well, I would have to just throw my hands up and start drinking, again.
Posted by: .com || 10/27/2005 4:07 Comments || Top||

#2  You'd think they'd have dropped the 'Islamic' prefix by now. We can tell from the beards, fixed stares and bulging scrota guys...
Posted by: Howard UK || 10/27/2005 7:53 Comments || Top||

#3  In Tehran, the judiciary has continued targeting journalists. According to the newspaper "Rooz on Line", in the days before the list was published, six journalists were summoned by Saiid Mortazavi and accused of not respecting Islamic law.

I'll respect Islamic Law when they stop feeding their babies liquid RDX.
By the way isnt "Islamic Law" an oxymoron ?
Posted by: Elder of Zion || 10/27/2005 8:13 Comments || Top||

#4  With crap like this spewed daily, how can anyone question that islam is really a cult of death?
Posted by: Spot || 10/27/2005 8:20 Comments || Top||

#5  "Does this turban clash with my brown shirt?"
Posted by: Raj || 10/27/2005 10:24 Comments || Top||

#6  Waiting to see what sort of anti-war spin the MSM is going to put on this. Should be rich.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/27/2005 20:43 Comments || Top||


Rooters on German report of al-Qaeda leaders active inside Iran
Iran is permitting around 25 high-ranking al Qaeda members to roam free in the country's capital, including three sons of Osama bin Laden, a German monthly magazine reported on Wednesday.

Citing information from unnamed Western intelligence sources, the magazine Cicero said in a preview of an article appearing in its November edition that the individuals in question are from Egypt, Uzbekistan, Saudi Arabia and Europe.

They are living in houses belonging to Iran's Revolutionary Guards, the report said.

"This is not incarceration or house arrest," a Western intelligence agent was quoted as saying. "They can move around as they please."

The three sons of Osama bin Laden in Iran are Saeed, Mohammad and Othman, Cicero reported. Another person enjoying the support of the Revolutionary Guards is al Qaeda spokesman Abu Ghaib, the report said.

Iran first said late last year that it had arrested and would try a number of foreigners suspected of having links to al Qaeda, a loose network of military groups that Washington blames for the attacks of September 11, 2001 and bomb attacks in Spain, Indonesia, Egypt and elsewhere.

The report in Cicero also accused the Revolutionary Guards' secret service of offering logistical support and military training to senior al Qaeda leaders.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/27/2005 02:42 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Iff Dubya wants to find Osama's hiding places, tell Rummy and SPECOPS to focii on Saeeed and Mohammed-sans.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/27/2005 3:02 Comments || Top||

#2  We play too nice.
Posted by: 3dc || 10/27/2005 3:04 Comments || Top||

#3  I suspect the search for the Kalashnikov loving UBL must begin with his media partner, Aljazeera and his colleagues in the Magic Kingdom.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/27/2005 17:45 Comments || Top||


Translation required for German report stating al-Qaeda leaders active in Iran
Dass nach Ahmadineschads Amtsantritt RealitÀt wird, was bisher nur angedroht wurde, befÃŒrchten nun die europÀischen Verhandlungspartner Irans. Zumal ihre Geheimdienste ÃŒber alarmierende Erkenntnisse verfÃŒgen. „FÃŒr Ahmadineschad ist die Terrordrohung keine diplomatische FingerÃŒbung. Der glaubt an die ‚Reinheit‘ der islamistischen Revolution und setzt um, was er androht“, stellt ein westlicher Geheimdienst fest.

TatsÀchlich bietet der Geheimdienst der RevolutionÀren Garden der FÃŒhrungsspitze von Al Qaida seit Jahren sicheren Unterschlupf, logistische UnterstÃŒtzung, militÀrisches Training sowie AusrÃŒstung. „Die Tatsache, dass sunnitische Dschihadisten und Schiiten einander hassen, ist fÃŒr beide kein Grund, nicht zu kooperieren. Sie haben einen gemeinsamen Feind“, wissen westliche Geheimdienste.

Der Autor dieses Artikels konnte eine Liste der Killer Gottes, die in Iran einen sicheren Hort gefunden haben, einsehen. Die Liste liest sich wie das Who’s Who des globalen Dschihads. Knapp 25 hochrangige FÃŒhrungskader von Al Qaida – Planer, Organisatoren und Ideologen des Dschihads aus Ägypten, Usbekistan, Saudi-Arabien, Nordafrika sowie aus Europa. Ganz oben in der Al-Qaida-Hierachie: drei der Söhne von Osama bin Laden, Saeed, Mohammad und Othman.

Al-Qaida-Sprecher Abu Ghaib genießt ebenso iranischen Schutz wie Abu Dagana al Alemani (genannt: der Deutsche), der aus Iran heraus die Zusammenarbeit der unterschiedlichen dschihadistischen Netzwerke in aller Welt koordiniert. Sie leben in sicheren HÀusern der RevolutionÀren Garden in und um Teheran. „Das ist keine Haft oder Hausarrest“, so die Schlussfolgerung eines hochrangigen Geheimdienstmitarbeiters. „Die können schalten und walten, wie sie wollen.“

Das konnte auch Saif al Adel, MilitÀrchef und Nummer drei von Al Qaida. Anfang Mai 2003 schneidet der saudische Geheimdienst seine Telefonate mit dem Organisator der Anschlagsserie in der saudischen Hauptstadt Riad mit, der im Mai 2003 mehr als 30 Menschen, darunter sieben AuslÀnder, zum Opfer fallen. Saif al Adel gibt den Befehl zu den Attentaten aus Iran heraus, wo er unter den Fittichen des iranischen Geheimdienstes agiert.

Iranische Geheimdienste, so die Erkenntnisse nahöstlicher wie westlicher Sicherheitsdienste, arbeiten schon seit Jahren immer wieder mit sunnitischen Dschihad-Organisationen von Al Qaida zusammen. „Als Islamist gehe ich zu den Saudis, um Geld zu bekommen“, skizziert der jordanische GID-Mann die bisherige Praxis islamistischer Gotteskrieger. „Wenn ich Waffen, logistische UnterstÃŒtzung oder militÀrisch-terroristische Ausbildung und AusrÃŒstung brauche, gehe ich zu den Iranern.“ Die Blaupausen fÃŒr die Al-Qaida-AnschlÀge auf die US-Botschaften in Kenia und Tansania 1998 stammen aus Teheran. Der Mann beruft sich auf Zeugenaussagen, Dokumente und Telefonmitschnitte.

Aber auch aus Iran selbst kommen ganz offene und sehr kriegerische Töne. Sie kÌnden von der Wiederkehr des iranischen Staatsterrorismus in den achtziger und neunziger Jahren des vergangenen Jahrhunderts. Einer Jahre wÀhrenden Serie von Geiselnahmen und Morden an westlichen AuslÀndern fielen in Libanon mehr als sechzig Menschen zum Opfer. Sowohl die Baracke der US-Marines als auch die der französischen Friedenstruppen wurden in die Luft gesprengt, hunderte Menschen starben. Die TÀter: die libanesische Hisbollah. Die Planer und HintermÀnner stammen aus der FÌhrungsriege der RevolutionÀren Garden Irans.

1992 sprengen unter der Anleitung iranischer Diplomaten und Offiziere der RevolutionÀren Garden Mitglieder der libanesischen Hisbollah die israelische Botschaft in Buenos Aires in Schutt und Asche, 1994 das jÌdische AMIA-Sozialzentrum in der argentinischen Hauptstadt.

Westliche Sicherheitsdienste befÃŒrchten nun eine Wiederholung dieser Serie globalen Terrors. Angesichts einer großflÀchigen Zeitungsannonce, die im August in der Zeitung Partow-e Sokhan erschien, eine realistische Aussicht – vor allem, sollte der Streit zwischen Iran und dem Westen um das iranische Atomwaffenprogramm weiter eskalieren. Der Anzeigentext liest sich wie folgt: „MÀrtyrerattacken sind die höchste Tugend und der höchste Mut“, verantwortlich fÃŒr den Text zeichnet das „Kommando der freiwilligen MÀrtyrer“. Dahinter stehen die Ansar Hisbollah, die radikalste islamistische Todesschwadron der Islamischen Republik. Moham-madresa Jafari, der Oberbefehlshaber des „Kommandos der freiwilligen MÀrtyrer“, droht mit dem globalen Einsatz von Selbstmordkommandos. 50000 KÀmpfer seien bereits rekrutiert. Auch in den USA und anderen NATO-Staaten hielten sich Selbstmordkommandos jederzeit einsatzbereit. „Der Feind hat Angst“, so Mohammadresa Jafari, „dass die Kultur des Martyriums zu einer Weltkultur aller Freiheitsliebenden wird.“

Hinter den Ansar Hisbollah und den potenziellen SelbstmordattentÀtern steht ein Mann: der Besitzer der Zeitung Partow-e sokhan. Ayatollah Mesbah Yasdi, der radikalste Hardliner der Islamischen Republik und der Mann, der aus dem Hintergrund heraus die triumphale Wahlschlacht von Mahmud Ahmadinedschad organisierte. Mesbah Yasdi politisches Geschick hat Ahmadinedschad zur PrÀsidentschaft gefÃŒhrt. Ayatollah Yasdi, Propagandist von globalen Selbstmordattentaten, rÃŒhmt Achnmadinejads Administration als „die erste islamische Administration in der Geschichte der Islamischen Republik“.

Eine Drohkulisse, die fÌr westliche Sicherheitsexperten in naher Zukunft real werden könnte. Denn Ahmadinedschad droht im Nuklearstreit mit dem Westen unverhohlen mit der nÀchsten Stufe der Eskalation. Konkret, der Wiederaufnahme aller AnreicherungsaktivitÀten. Die Anreicherung von Uran ist unverzichtbar fÌr den Bau einer Atombombe.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/27/2005 02:39 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Pointless,Dan.
Posted by: raptor || 10/27/2005 4:30 Comments || Top||

#2  I saw the Schprockets skit on SNL, once.
Posted by: .com || 10/27/2005 4:35 Comments || Top||

#3  I tried Babelfish but the result was half-assed at best. Where's TGA when you need him?
Posted by: Jonathan || 10/27/2005 10:12 Comments || Top||

#4  would you like to touch my monkey? I call him...Osama
Posted by: Frank G || 10/27/2005 10:16 Comments || Top||

#5  Here's a quickand dirty first paragraph:

The reality of Ahmadineschads assumption of office, only threatened so far, now worries Iran’s European negotiating partners. Particularly since their secret services posses alarming realizations. “For Ahmadineschad the terror threat is not a diplomatic finger exercise. He believes in the ‘purity’ of the Islamic revolution and acts on his beliefs" observes a western secret service.
Posted by: Iblis || 10/27/2005 12:21 Comments || Top||

#6  This is ugly, but you get the idea:

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The reality of Ahmadineschad’s assumption of office, only threatened so far, now worries Iran’s European negotiating partners. Particularly since their secret services posses alarming realizations. “For Ahmadineschad the terror threat is not a diplomatic finger exercise. He believes in the ‘purity’ of the Islamic revolution and acts on his beliefs" observes a western secret service.

For years the secret service of the Revolutionary Guards has offered al-Qaida’s top leadership logistic support, military training as well as equipment and safe houses. "The fact that Sunni jihadis and Shiite hate each other, is for both no reason not to cooperate. They have a common enemy," know western secret services.

The author of this article was able to view a list of God’s Killers who found a safe refuge in Iran. The list reads like the Who's Who of the global Jihad. Just under 25 high-ranking leaders of al-Qaida--planners, supervisors and jihad ideologs from Egypt, Uzbekistan, Saudi Arabia, North Africa as well as Europe. At the very top of al-Qaida’s hierarchy: three of the sons of Osama bin Laden, Saeed, Mohammad and Othman.

Al-Qaida spokesman, Abu Ghaib, also enjoys Iranian protection as Abu Dagana al-Alemani (called “the German”), who coordinates the co-operation of the various jihadi networks all over the world from Iran. They live in secure housing of the Revolutionary Guards in and around Teheran. "This is not detention or house arrest," concludes a high-ranking secret service employee. "They come and go as they please."

That could also [apply to?] al-Saif Adel, military boss and number three at al-Qaida. At the beginning of May 2003 the Saudi secret service cut his telephone calls with the organizer of the series of attacks in the Saudi capital Riyadh, to which more than 30 people, among them seven foreigners, fell victim in May 2003. Al-Saif Adel gives the order for assassination attempts from Iran, where he acts under the wings of the Iranian secret service.

Middle Eastern as well as western security agencies realize that Iranian secret services have already been cooperating for years with the Sunni jihad organizations of al-Qaida. A Jordanian GID man outlines the past practice of Islamic holy warriors: "As an Islamist I go to the Saudis to get money." "If I need weapons, logistical support or military/terrorist training or equipment, I go to the Iranians." The blueprints of the al-Qaida attacks on the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania 1998 originated from Teheran. The [GID] man relies on testimonies, documents and telephone wiretaps.

In addition, from Iran itself come completely open and very warlike tones. They tell of the return of Iranian state terrorism in and the eighties and nineties of the last century. In just one year during a series of hostage takings and murders of western foreigners in Lebanon more than sixty people fell victim. As both the US Marine barracks and those of the French peacekeeping forces were blown into air, hundreds of people died. The culprit: the Lebanese Hezbollah. The planners and backers originate from the leadership circles of Iran’s Revolutionary Guards.

[In]1992 the Israeli embassy in Buenos Aires explodes in debris and ash under the guidance of Iranian diplomats and officers of the Revolutionary Guards, members of the Lebanese Hezbollah, 1994 the Jewish AMIA Cultural Center in the Argentine capital.

Western security agencies now fear a repetition of this episode of global terror. In view of a large newspaper advertisement, which appeared in August in the newspaper Partow-e Sokhan, a realistic prospect—especially should the controversy between Iran and the West over the Iranian nuclear weapon program escalate further. The ad text itself reads as follows: "martyr attacks are the highest virtue and the highest courage." The "command of the voluntary martyrs" stands responsible for the text. Behind them the Ansar Hezbollah, the most radical Islamic death squad of the Islamic republic. Moham Madresa Jafari, the commander in chief of the "command of the voluntary martyrs", threatens the global use of suicide attackers. 50,000 fighters have already been already recruited. In the USA and other NATO countries suicide attackers keep themselves operational at all times. "The enemy is afraid", according to Mohammadresa Jafari, "that the culture of martyrdom will become a world culture of all liberty-loving [people]."

Behind the Ansar Hezbollah and the potential suicide assassins stands a man: the owner of the newspaper Partow-e Sokhan. Ayatollah Mesbah Yasdi, the most radical hard liner of the Islamic republic and the man who organized from the background the triumphant selection battle of Mahmud Ahmadinedschad. Mesbah Yasdi’s political deftness led Ahmadinedschad to the presidency. Ayatollah Yasdi, proponent of global suicide assassination attempts, praises Achnmadinejad’s administration as "the first Islamic administration in the history of the Islamic republic".

A credible threat of force, which could become real for western safety experts in the near future. Because Ahmadinedschad openly threatens the West in the nuclear controversy with the next stage of escalation. Specifically, the resumption of all enrichment activities. The enrichment of uranium is indispensable for the building of an atomic bomb.
Posted by: Iblis || 10/27/2005 13:44 Comments || Top||

#7  Thanks, Iblis. My German isn't good enough for this kind of thing.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/27/2005 14:21 Comments || Top||

#8  Nice job Iblis.
Posted by: ed || 10/27/2005 14:39 Comments || Top||


Lebanese army presence consolidated near Palestinian border posts in Bekaa
Lebanese army armored vehicles and personnel carriers were reportedly brought on Wednseday to some Bekaa positions close to the Syrian border in the aftermath of shooting which claimed last Tuesday the life of a surveyor working for the army. The surveyor, Mohammad Ismail, was reportedly killed by shots fired from positions manned by the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine- General Command, led by Ahmad Jibril and the Fatah Intifada led by Abu Moussa. Both organizations are based in Syria.

A statement issued by the army's Orientation Office had earlier dismissed reports that a siege was imposed on some Palestinian posts on the outskirts of the Bekaa border towns of Hilweh and Sultan Yacoub. Last week, Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora had started a dialogue with Lebanon-based Palestinian militant organizations with the aim of bringing their weapons and ammunition under control and preventing them from being used outside the Palestinian camps. Last week an organization based in the Palestinian camp of Ein el-Hilweh near Sidon clashed with neighboring Lebanese residents. Four people were injured as a result of the clash.
It's probably a nice change of pace for the Leb troops to do something more productive than fetch coffee for the Syrians.
Posted by: Fred || 10/27/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  IOW, the Pales. don't have the military might or ability or UNITY to take out JORDAN, let alone ISRAEL and the IDF, so they need to destabilize LEBANON for their "liebenstraum" where they neither won't have to depend on Israel for their national econ development, or do anything ags the armed militias.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/27/2005 0:42 Comments || Top||


Arms Still Coming Over Syrian Border
Palestinian militants in Lebanon are getting more weapons from Syria, one reason why the Lebanese government has made no significant progress in disbanding and disarming militias that operate with impunity inside its borders, a U.N. report said Wednesday. The report said that despite some positive steps, Lebanon still has not achieved full "sovereignty and political independence" more than six months after Syria withdrew its troops and intelligence apparatus from its neighbor following a 29-year presence.

In the report to the council, Secretary-General Kofi Annan highlighted the difficulties controlling the Lebanon-Syria border and reports of "an increasing influx of weaponry and personnel from Syria" to some militia groups in Lebanon. "The government of Syria has informed me that smuggling of arms and people across the Syrian-Lebanese border does indeed take place, albeit in both directions," he said.

The report, prepared by U.N. envoy Terje Roed-Larsen, was assessing the implementation of Security Council resolution 1559, which called for Syria to withdraw all military forces and intelligence operatives as well as the disarmament of all militias in Lebanon.
Posted by: Fred || 10/27/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Well of course they are. Assad hasn't learned any lessons, yet, so the behavior is still the same. You have to slap 'im upside the head a few times. Mebbe use a ball peen hammer the first time. A Louisville Slugger the second. I'd say a high quality katana would be apropos for the third. Then watch the trouble begin to dry up as the underlings scramble for cash and cover.
Posted by: .com || 10/27/2005 1:37 Comments || Top||

#2  If something isn't done soon,the Paleos will take over Lebenon by shear wieght of numbers.
Posted by: raptor || 10/27/2005 7:56 Comments || Top||

#3  .com,
I like your going berzerk on the AssadPuppet.
However, for poetic justice purposes I think the proper way for Assad to stepp down from history's stage would be for sumeone (Mossad / CIA ?..please ?) to boobytrap his car.
You'll be amazed to see the educational effects of a few kilos of a good quality explossive placed under his Porche's hood.
Posted by: Elder of Zion || 10/27/2005 8:23 Comments || Top||

#4  Congrats EoZ, you have been selected as the beta tester for the AWACS radar trajectory corrected JDAMS with a range of 60 miles. Be sure to use them on a sunny day when Pencil Neck has the top down on the Porsche.
Posted by: ed || 10/27/2005 8:47 Comments || Top||

#5  Thanks Ed,
Personally I'd prefer to use a Stilleto for some quick brain surgery on the Ass(ad)hole.
JADAMs are usually my second choice.
Posted by: Elder of Zion || 10/27/2005 8:55 Comments || Top||

#6  With all due respect, vigilante style tit for tat may not be appropriate . Assad is involved in blowing up the Prime Minister of Lebanon. Any attempt for the US to try the same on Bashir might generate more harm than good. Establish the enviroment, and let Baby trip on his own laces.
Posted by: john || 10/27/2005 9:49 Comments || Top||

#7  Raptor,
good observation....Lebanon would make a good Palestinian homeland. It actually is their ancestral home, anyway. Grouping them together makes targeting easier, too.
Posted by: Danielle || 10/27/2005 14:16 Comments || Top||

#8  Who cares what weapon is used? All I want is for Baby Asshat and a few of his fellow travelers to stop breathing - for eternity.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/27/2005 16:11 Comments || Top||

#9  excuse me? Lebanon is home to one of the few christian enclaves in the ME - fuck the paleostinians, give em the Saudi empty quarter. They can't do much damage there
Posted by: Frank G || 10/27/2005 17:02 Comments || Top||


A friend to Hariri's killer imprisoned in Syria
Legal activist and former chairman of "the Human Rights Society" in Syria Haitham Al-Malih has affirmed that a Syrian citizen who mentioned in Mehlis's report in the assassination of President Rafik Hariri is imprisoned in Syria. Elaph e-web site quoted Al-Malih as saying "Ziad Ramadan who was cited in the report is a friend to the supposed suicide bomber Ahmad Abo Adas is imprisoned in Syria since two months."

Al-Malih asked why the Syrian security forces did not handed over Ramadan and why he did not appear before Mehlis? Al Malih indicated that Ramadan's father and his brother, based in Homs, asked him to months ago that Ziad to surrender to the Syrian authorities via him because he "did not commit anything that deserved to be tortured. Based on this fact, His family handed him over to the military intelligence". Al-Malih pointed out that Ramadan's family visited him in the jail two weeks after arrest .Ziad was in a good condition and was not subjected to torture. And also he informed them that he is preparing himself to meet international prosecutor Detlev Mehlis.
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Momma Bear has passed away
Goodbye, Friend.
Posted by: Fred || 10/27/2005 13:03 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Don't know her at all, but if she's a frienda Freds then I hope she finds peace from pain.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/27/2005 15:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Momma Bear has passed away

New Bears, Old Bears, and Inbetween Bearing Bears will Bear heavy Bear hearts tonite.
Posted by: Bare Bear || 10/27/2005 16:11 Comments || Top||

#3  I read a lot of her writings, sorry I never got the chance to talk to her. God bless, Momma.
Posted by: Steve || 10/27/2005 16:34 Comments || Top||

#4  She was a lovely and gracious lady, to judge from the very kind comments she posted to some of my natterings. I really rather regret that I didn't know she was fading away from this world. I would like to have paid some compliments to her, while she was able to appreciate them.
"In the midst of life, we are in death."
Posted by: Sgt. Mom || 10/27/2005 18:31 Comments || Top||

#5  I read her from time to time, and I'm sorry to hear this.
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 10/27/2005 23:38 Comments || Top||


Africa: Subsaharan
Nigerian terrorist group linked to al Qaeda claims Bellview plane crash
DEBKAfile’s counter-terror sources report that a group identifying itself as Coalition for Militant Action in the Niger Delta (COMA) has claimed the crash on Oct. 23. The plane bound for Abuja came down at Lissa village minutes after takeoff from Lagos airport. Aboard were senior Nigerian officials who have never been identified by the authorities. Before disappearing from the airport radar, the pilot sent a distress signal.

COMA threatens more attacks on “Nigerian agents and infrastructure” until its leader Mujahid Dokubo-Asari is released from detention. The detained man has asked his followers to cease violent action, but they publicly rejected his request and threatened strikes against Nigeria’s oil pipelines. The Nigerian group claims to be linked to al Qaeda and operating under the command of Abu Musab al Zarqawi. One theory is that the plane was brought down by a missile.
Could be true, could be another group trying to take credit for something they didn't do.
Posted by: Steve || 10/27/2005 08:59 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Would not mind if he happened to be a victim." Quite an interesting perspective on life.

This Day (Logos)
October 23, 2005

The pilot of the plane was Capt. Imasuen Lamert said to have had about 30 years of flying experience. Imasuen who was said to have survived a serious armed robbery attack about four years ago, had reportedly told friends that he was concerned about the spate of air crashes across the world. He was quoted to have said that he was particularly worried that if such happened in Nigeria, the cosequences might be dangerous, although he would not mind if he happened to be a victim.

Posted by: Besoeker || 10/27/2005 11:01 Comments || Top||

#2  release Mujahid Dokubo-Asari from detention, and shoot him in the head, right there in the street
Posted by: Frank G || 10/27/2005 11:21 Comments || Top||


Africa: North
GSPC kills 2 in Algeria
Algerian Islamic militants killed two people, including one policeman, and injured three others, stepping up attacks during the holy month of Ramadan despite a government offer of amnesty for hundreds of rebels, newspapers reported on Wednesday. Armed rebels stormed a coffee house and opened fire on a crowd, killing a policeman ad wounding a soldier late on Tuesday in Medea, some 150 km southwest of the capital Algiers, said national dailies Liberte and El Khabar. The militants then moved to a nearby market and shot dead a civilian and injured two others. Security forces launched a search operation and killed two attackers, newspapers said.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/27/2005 03:08 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Afghanistan-Pak-India
Pakistan coughs up 14 Taliban
Pakistan has extradited 14 Taliban fugitives to Afghanistan, the first such move by Islamabad since U.S-led forces overthrew the radical Islamist government in 2001, officials said on Thursday. Taliban spokesmen Abdul Latif Hakimi and Mohammad Yasar were the most senior members of the group of 14 men sent back by military plane to Afghanistan on Wednesday, they said. The fugitives, who were blindfolded for the trip, will be tried by a court over their role in violence against the Afghan government and foreign troops based in Afghanistan, officials said.

While hailing the extradition, Afghanistan urged its neighbour to hunt down more suspected militants based in Pakistan. "Such measures by Pakistan would strengthen relations between the two countries and may God we have more successes in future too in this regard," Interior Ministry spokesman Yousuf Stanezai said.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/27/2005 02:44 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Expendables.
Posted by: .com || 10/27/2005 4:04 Comments || Top||

#2  "Hey Abdul isn't this good of the isi sending us back in the big metal bird?"

"Yaarr Mohammad sure beats the donkey over the pass with the akmags,c4 and guide"
Posted by: pihkalbadger || 10/27/2005 9:47 Comments || Top||


Al-Qaeda member active in Delhi
An al-Qaeda terrorist, Mohammed Majoodi, has sneaked into the country with the intention of targeting US centres in major Indian metros, intelligence sources said. It was Majoodi’s suspected presence here that had led the US state department to sound a terror alert for American establishments in India on October 10. While establishments in the Capital like the US embassy, American Centre and United States Educational Foundation in India are high on terrorist hit lists, the alert about Majoodi has also been passed on to Hyderabad, Mumbai, Bangalore, Kolkata and Chennai by intelligence agencies.

According to security sources, intelligence and police agencies have launched a high-intensity hunt for the terrorist over the past six days. According to intelligence inputs, Majoodi has been in India for several weeks and has spent time in Hyderabad and Mumbai.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 10/27/2005 02:43 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Majoodi - please, wid all the beards the BUrqua Boyz like to wear, he'll be lucky a Hindu cow doesn't mistake him for cabbage or her fav greens.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/27/2005 3:05 Comments || Top||

#2  lol! Not bad, Joseph.
Posted by: Phaviter Shainter2357 || 10/27/2005 3:08 Comments || Top||


Islamists Dismiss Reports of Bin Laden's Death
Islamists dismissed recent reports on the death of Osama bin Laden “around four months ago”, with the Pakistani newspaper “Awsaf” reporting al Qaeda’s leader had died outside Qandahar in June 2005. Quoting “informed” sources, the article alleged that bin Laden was hiding with a number of his followers in Bamiyan province when his health deteriorated and he was moved to Qandahar where he died and was buried in the “al Shahadah” tomb outside the city.

Repeated appearance by al Qaeda’s second in command Ayman al Zawahiri, on his own, in the last few months, added weight to the rumors, especially as bin Laden has not appeared in any video for over a year.

Muntasser al Zayat, a lawyer defending Islamist extremists in Egypt, told Asharq al Awsat, in a telephone conversation, that security precautions precluded bin Laden from communicating with the media, as al Zawahiri has in the past, adding that “security concerns require the men not to be in the same location”. Less stringent security measures meant al Zawahiri was able to record and smuggle videotaped messages while fears for his life precluded bin Laden from appearing in public, especially as he might have had to change his physical appearance to avoid capture, al Zayat indicated. ‘No one can predict where bin Laden and al Zawahiri are currently living. I believe they are in the least expected place”, he said.

For his part, Hani al Sibai, head of al Maqrizi Center in London, indicated that, in case bin Laden dies, al Qaeda would announce a new leadership was in place and publicly back his successor as it had done when “the leaders of Afghan Arab fighters in the Caucus” Mohammad Atef, also known as Abu Hafs, died in Qandahar in 2001. Al Sibai indicated that al Zawahiri acknowledged the arrests of Abu Faraj al Libbi and Khaled Sheikh Mohammed and Ramzi bin al Shibah so that, “if the reports on the death of bin Laden were true, al Qaeda would publicly announce his death.”

‘In my opinion, the disappearance of bin Laden after his last videotaped message in December 2004 is aimed at encouraging the US military to stop pursuing him”, he added.
Posted by: Fred || 10/27/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Splendid! Those who should know best remain certain that this mass-murdering psycho cretin is still alive. No sense in calling off the offensive designed to flush this monster-raving-turd out of the woodwork just yet. A whopping big thank you for those enduring believers that continue to inspire our attempts at detaining this two-legged sack-of-sh!t. I cannot thank them enough regarding their determined and resolute invitation for more of our ordnance. Have all you want, boys. Schaweet!
Posted by: Zenster || 10/27/2005 0:40 Comments || Top||

#2  The Osama I fought with ags the Soviets wasn't afraid to travel either by himself or in very small groups - in any case, iff he's dead the Sun and Universe hasn't exploded/nova'ed, and Madonna aka Josephine Bonaparte is still married to Scott Ritchie. As for where Osama and Zawey are living, both the Radics and Commies say the WOT and everything and everyone is America's fault no matter what so it doesn't matter where Osama-babe is hiding. Madonna sezzes does Osama really believe Big Daddy doesn't know!?
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/27/2005 1:03 Comments || Top||

#3  Nurse Ratched, another 10cc of Thorazine, please.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/27/2005 1:21 Comments || Top||

#4  The Osama I fought with...

Wha..???
Posted by: Rafael || 10/27/2005 1:28 Comments || Top||

#5  The Osama I fought with ags the Soviets

Please explain.
Posted by: 2b || 10/27/2005 2:55 Comments || Top||

#6  Yawn, Is it time for another Bin Laden is dead repeat already.
Posted by: Captain America || 10/27/2005 3:01 Comments || Top||

#7  I read this article differently.

Islamists dismissed recent reports on the death of Osama bin Laden "around four months ago”, with the Pakistani newspaper “Awsaf” reporting al Qaeda’s leader had died outside Qandahar in June 2005.

In other words, he's dead, Jim. The debate is not if but when. Besides, we already knew that anyway. Not that we care or it matters anymore.
Posted by: 2b || 10/27/2005 3:01 Comments || Top||

#8  Hey, pressure like this is good to force OBL to issue a statement. If he's alive, he has to risk delivering a video. If he's dead, the pressure will mount for a video, and if none surfaces, we can pretty much assume he's dead. And in the best possible way, too, instead of at the hands of a Special Forces raid. I don't think dying of renal failure qualfies you as a martyr.
Posted by: gromky || 10/27/2005 3:26 Comments || Top||

#9  The Osama I fought with ags the Soviets

Joe also fought with Sitting Bull against Custer. Don't try to understand, just go with it.
Posted by: Steve || 10/27/2005 8:25 Comments || Top||

#10  For what it is worth, my understanding of certain biblical prophecies puts some really bad dudes in (As)Syria, Iran (King of the North), Saudi Arabia(King of the South), the West Bank (Megiddo), high in the cliffs of Moab and Edom, which would be mountainous regions of Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and the Sinai, and the least expected of all, sailing on the high seas in a luxury vessel. Ezekiel 27 has a long list of accomplices and locales such as Tyre and Sidon, and others including Bosnia and Chechnya, as well as Rome and Spain, plus most of the Mediterranean coast. Pretty much all the current hot spots.
Posted by: Danielle || 10/27/2005 10:33 Comments || Top||

#11  The Osama I fought with ags the Soviets wasn't afraid to travel

Please allow me to introduce myself
I’m a man of wealth and taste
I’ve been around for a long, long year
Stole many a man’s soul and faith
And I was ’round when Jesus Christ
Had his moment of doubt and pain
Made damn sure that Pilate
Washed his hands and sealed his fate
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name
But what’s puzzling you
Is the nature of my game
I stuck around st. petersburg
When I saw it was a time for a change
Killed the czar and his ministers
Anastasia screamed in vain
I rode a tank
Held a general’s rank
When the blitzkrieg raged
And the bodies stank
Pleased to meet you
Hope you guess my name, oh yeah
Ah, what’s puzzling you
Is the nature of my game, oh yeah
I watched with glee
While your kings and queens
Fought for ten decades
For the gods they made..

Posted by: Osama bin Madonna || 10/27/2005 11:09 Comments || Top||

#12  Even if Osama is dead, God admonishes "kill his sons, as they must not rise to inherit the earth". Jeremiah 50 and 51 further urges us to not "spare any arrows" but to completely destroy them. God has not forsaken his people.
Posted by: Danielle || 10/27/2005 12:06 Comments || Top||

#13  I must say that the roumors about my recent death are highly exaggerated.

[O].B.Shaw
Posted by: {Osama }B(in) Shaw || 10/27/2005 13:29 Comments || Top||

#14  If I recall correctly, Osama bin Laden's favourite son is wandering "freely" in Iran with the rest of that portion of the Al Qaeda leadership that Iran is hiding.

Posted by: trailing wife || 10/27/2005 14:00 Comments || Top||

#15  Osama....come home!
Posted by: B. Laden || 10/27/2005 14:00 Comments || Top||

#16  Several of his sons, a wife or two, the #3 (military head), and most of the top leadership are in Iran and plotting with the help and encouragement of the Iranians. I would give odds that bin Laden and/or Zawahiri are also in Iran, but unlike the others, hidden by the IRG.
Posted by: ed || 10/27/2005 14:15 Comments || Top||

#17  BTW, it was Iran who gave Zarqawi passage when Afghanistan was overrun by the US and Northern Alliance. It was Iran who in 2003 gave Zarqawi sanctuary and rearmed him and his followers after their enclave in Kurdistan was overrun by US and Kurdish forces. There is huge debt of vengeance owed to Iran.
Posted by: ed || 10/27/2005 14:20 Comments || Top||

#18  Maybe Ted Kennedy knows something we don't know about Illinois Sen. Barack Obama, calling him "Osama bin … Osama … Obama."
Posted by: Bardo || 10/27/2005 14:34 Comments || Top||

#19  Thorazine, what is this Thorazine?

Thats a nurse? I thought it was Marshall Davout.
Posted by: Napoleon Bonaparte || 10/27/2005 14:49 Comments || Top||

#20  Like 72 virgins
Touched for the very first time!
Posted by: The other Osama bin Madonna || 10/27/2005 14:50 Comments || Top||

#21  ‘No one can predict where bin Laden and al Zawahiri are currently living. I believe they are in the least expected place”, he said.

It's a clue! We must search all the yeshivas in Brooklyn immediately! If he's not there, then he's definitely in a Catholic girls' school. After that, if we still havent got him, we have to turn the Castro district upside down. We are this close!
Posted by: Baba Tutu || 10/27/2005 15:11 Comments || Top||

#22  Ben Laden is dead. He is dead in a cave someplace. They will have to prove otherwise.
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 10/27/2005 15:29 Comments || Top||


US and British air attacks kill suspected Taliban
American and British warplanes pounded a southern Afghan mountain, killing suspected Taliban rebels, the US military said on Wednesday. A provincial governor said at least six rebels were killed and four wounded. Fighting erupted after militants attacked a joint Afghan-US patrol in Uruzgan province’s Dihrawud district late on Monday, US military spokesman Lt Col Jerry O’Hara said. An Afghan soldier was wounded before the rebels fled, he said.

The troops then called for air support and warplanes bombed a mountainous area where the militants were believed to be hiding, he said. A military statement said US A-10 aircraft and British GR-7s dropped several bombs on the region, as well as pounding it with rockets and cannon fire. O’Hara said the attack “was successful with a number of enemy killed,” but he said an exact evaluation of the number of casualties was ongoing. Uruzgan Governor Jan Mohammed Khan said investigators had been to the remote area and found the bodies of six suspected rebels. Four others were wounded and were being treated in a local hospital. Uruzgan has been the site of numerous attacks on US-led coalition forces and rebel camps are believed to be hidden in mountains there.
Posted by: Fred || 10/27/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "an exact evaluation of the number of casualties was ongoing"

It's a delicate task. I think we should recruit the top jigsaw puzzle players to assist in these after-action analyses.
Posted by: .com || 10/27/2005 1:40 Comments || Top||

#2  put granny to work.
Posted by: 2b || 10/27/2005 3:07 Comments || Top||

#3  Chocks away Ginger!
Posted by: Howard UK || 10/27/2005 3:57 Comments || Top||

#4  Heh. I loved that flick, Howard.
Posted by: lotp || 10/27/2005 10:27 Comments || Top||

#5  I think we should recruit the top jigsaw puzzle players to assist in these after-action analyses.

Funny you should say that, .com. During my 26 years in the Air Force, I discovered that the better photo interpreters I worked with were also great jigsaw puzzle fans. Both use basically the same skill set.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/27/2005 13:00 Comments || Top||

#6  Does this have anything to do with the report that Bin Laden died near Kandehar and was buried in the shadow of a southern mountain?
Posted by: Danielle || 10/27/2005 14:28 Comments || Top||

#7  6 times 72 = 432 bearded virgins...
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/27/2005 14:47 Comments || Top||

#8  I have some friends who are puzzle fanatics, they buy round puzzles without any picture on it to work, I've seen them turn a puzzle upside down (Back, no picture) if they think it's too easy.

Me I don't do puzzles, I get enough puzzle type thinking at work, I'm currently an Auto Mechanic, and puzzling out car's various ills is puzzle enough for me.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 10/27/2005 19:37 Comments || Top||


Sri Lankan military says 2 Tamil Tigers killed
Breakaway guerrillas attacked a Tamil Tiger camp in eastern Sri Lanka on Wednesday killing at least two officials of the main rebel organisation, the island’s military said. Military spokesman Brig Nalin Witharanage said intercepted rebel communication revealed that followers of a breakaway faction attacked officials of the main Tamil rebel group - the Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam - in a village 25 kilometres into rebel-held territory from the town of Welikanda. Witharanage said the breakaway rebels took two rifles. Tamil Tigers have made no comment about the alleged incident.

Scores of people - Tamil Tigers, breakaway rebels, politicians opposing the rebels, and civilians - have been killed despite a 2002 cease-fire. Violence escalated after a rebel leader and some 6,000 followers split away from the LTTE in March 2004.
Posted by: Fred || 10/27/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Suicide car bomber kills soldier in IHK
SRINAGAR: A suicide bomber rammed an explosives-laden car into a bus carrying troops in Indian-held Kashmir on Wednesday, killing one soldier and wounding 15, a security spokesman said. The attack on the bus carrying Border Security Force (BSF) troops took place on a highway on the outskirts of Srinagar, a BSF spokesman said. “The powerful explosion damaged the BSF vehicle completely,” said K Srinivasan, a senior BSF officer. Witnesses said the blast also damaged houses in the area.
Posted by: Fred || 10/27/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Shia teacher killed in Quetta
QUETTA: A Shia teacher was killed on his way to school on Wednesday. The police termed it an act of sectarian violence. Murid Abbas, also a Zakir or a Shiite religious speaker, was shot dead by unidentified gunmen. The Shia community will bring out a religious procession tonight to commemorate the death anniversary of Hazrat Ali (AS). A Shia leader Rahim jaferi said that it was the 17th incident of sectarian violence since March 2004, when suicidal bombers had attacked a religious procession killing 50 people.

He said the Shia community would protest because the government had done nothing to arrest the attackers despite previous assurances. Banned religious organizations were blamed for these attacks. Jaferi said that they had nominated the assailants but no action was taken. More than a 100 people were killed in two major incidents of sectarian violence in 2003 and 2004.
Posted by: Fred || 10/27/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  You might want to look into just what this particular Teacher was teaching.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 10/27/2005 19:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Check out the story that an Iraqi battalion is headed to Pakistan for quake relief efforts. My guess is the battalion has a good representation of Shia ... an interesting experience for the Sunni jihadis in the Kashmir region. And perhaps an example to the Pakistani Shia as well.
Posted by: lotp || 10/27/2005 21:30 Comments || Top||



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