Riyadh, 1 Nov. (AKI) - A Saudi minister has promised to sponsor the weddings of five Saudi nationals who were released from the American detention centre in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
Weddings, huh? Hope there ain't no "accidents"
The assistant minister of interior for security affairs, Prince Mohammad Bin Naif Bin Abdul Aziz also said that he would give the former US terror suspects a monthly salary bonus once they had completed their studies, according to a report on the Arabic language paper Al Riyadh.
Refresher courses on escape and evasion, lying to interrogators and beating your wife without leaving a mark?
The prince recently met all five men who were arrested by US agents in Afghanistan and detained at the base in Guantanamo Bay. The decision to provide these men with bonuses is part of the prince's plan to support and ensure a smooth re-entry into society for the former inmates and to try and deter them for any further involvement with radical groups.
"Youse guys reformed?" "Yes, your highness" "Ok, you're free to go. Don't get caught again, see?"
There are more than 560 prisoners in the detantion centre known as Camp X-ray, of whom 121 are Saudis, captured in Afghanistan after the fall of the Taliban regime and accused of being linked to al-Qaeda, whose leader, Osama bin Laden, was a Saudi national until the 1990s, when he was stripped of his citizenship.
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I don't think its been camp xray for at least two years or so...
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ahh this "catch and release" crap I damm sure hope this is really a SOCOM job and its more like "RFID Tag and Release" kinda thing. Freekin Soudis are a joke after they go back through the religious education brainwashing that got them into Gitmo in the first place. These terrrorist we release show up all over making more Jihad sometimes they are smart enough to go were the Big Satan dont hang like what just happened in S. Russia the attack on the city were I think 3 gitmo boys were again caught, ehh the russians know how to deal with em 9mil in the back top of neck.
Twelve Yemeni policemen died in clashes on Saturday, it has emerged. The fighting occurred in an area of the country which last year saw repeated clashes between Islamist rebels and government troops. Tribal elders in the north-western Saada province said the policemen were ambushed by armed men as they passed through the town of Munabbah. An officer related to the provincial governor of Saada, Yahia al Amri, is thought to be among the dead. It is not known who carried out the attack.
In September, Yemeni President Ali Abdullah Saleh pardoned followers of Sheikh Hussein Badr al-Din al-Houthi, a spiritual leader from the Zaidi Shia sect, who was killed by government forces. The Zaidis are a Shia Muslim sect dominant in north-western Yemen. They have been accused of trying too overthrow the Yemeni government. About 400 people were killed in clashes between Houthi's followers and government forces.
Three killed in âcrossfireâ
BDNEWS, DHAKA: âCrossfireâ with RAB and police has claimed three lives in Kushtia, Faridpur and Sherpur districts early yesterday.
Hit the trifecta
During the 'crossfire' incidents with police, an extremist leader was killed in Kushtia and a dacoit boss in Sherpur while an alleged terrorist was killed in Faridpur in an encounter with RAB.
If they had only found a pirate they could have hit for the cycle
The news agencyâs correspondent from Kushtia said, the extremist cadre Mazed (32) was killed in a reported 'crossfire' between police and alleged members of banned Purba Bangla Communist Party (ML Janajuddha) cadres in Kushtia early yesterday, police said.
Another dead commie
Police sources said that the gunfight took place near Saifun bridge on Kushtia-Meherpur road of the district.
Police said Mazed was an alleged cadre of banned extremist organisation, Purba Bangla Communist Party (ML Janajuddha). He was wanted in several cases including charges of murder, they said.
"Wanted on twelve systems, he was!"
Mazed is the son of Abdul Mazid Jowardar alias Hisab Jowardar of Kachubariya village under Amla union in Mirpur upazila of the district.
Even dear old dad has an alias..
Police said acting on a tip off, Mirpur thana police conducted a special drive and arrested Mazed Sunday morning from his home village Kachubariya.
"Morning Mazad, we've got something "special" for you this morning."
Police took Mazed near at Saifun Bridge area on Kushtia â Meherpur road following his confession
Step Two, for our long time readers
at about 2 am yesterday
Step Three
to recover the arms and ammunition
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and to arrest his accomplices.
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But, police said, as they reached the area, the associates of Mazed opened fire on them
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to snatch away their cadre.
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In retaliation, police said, they countered
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while Mazed was caught in the crossfire
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and received multiple injuries
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during his bid to escape.
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Later, doctors declared him dead at Mirpur Upazila Health Complex.
Twelve: "He's dead, Jim"
Police claimed that they recovered one shutter gun and several rounds gun bullets from the spot.
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However, none of Mazed's accomplices who, according to police, had opened fire on the law enforcers could be nabbed.
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Faridpur Correspondent of the news agency informed that Bishwajit Bishwas, wanted in seven cases including murder charges, was killed in a reported 'crossfire' with RAB and a group of terrorist yesterday morning at Munshibazar under Sadar upazila of the district.
Ok, by the numbers..
RAB sources said that a team of RAB-4 arrested Bishwajit Saturday from the Mouchak Market area of capital and handed him over to the team of RAB-8.
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Later, following his confession,
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RAB members took him to Munshibazar area under Sadar upazila at about 4 am yesterday
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to arrest his accomplices
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and to recover the arms and ammunition.
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When the team of elite force reached near Munshibazar area the accomplices of Bishwajit opened fire on them.
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RAB also retaliated.
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At one stage, RAB said that Bishwajit tried to escape the clutches of law enforcers, caught in fire lines, got several bullet injuries and died on the spot.
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Meanwhile, the accomplices of Bishwajit managed to flee the scene leaving one Pakistan-made gun, a Japan-made revolver, one pipe gun and 10 rounds of bullets of different arms.
13 and 14. Guess they didn't bother with taking him to hospital
Sherpur correspondent of the news agency said Badar Uddin alias 'Badar Dakaat', son of local Jaamat leader of Killapara village Abdul Khaleque master under Nalitabari upazila of the district, was killed in police 'crossfire' early Monday at Gayekpara river side area in the district. Mafizur Rahman, a police constable, was also injured in the incident.
Police said that the members of Bangladesh Rifles (BDR) arrested Badar Saturday night at about 9pm from Garo hill village Kalakuma in Nalitabari upazila bordering area of the district along with a country made gun, six rounds of bullets, cash TK 18,500, mobile sets and a motorbike.
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Following Badar's confession,
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police conducted a drive early Monday at about 3 am at Gayekpara riverside area under Nalitabari upazila to recover arms and arrest his accomplices.
3, 4, 5..
Police said that when they reached Gayekpara riverside area, nearly 15 to 20 accomplices of Badar opened fires on them to snatch away their leader from the clutches of the law enforcers.
6, 7..
As Badar tried to escape, he received injuries in crossfire and was rushed to the Nalitabari Health Complex where the doctors declared him dead.
8, 9, etc...
Meanwhile, the accomplices of Badar managed to flee the scene leaving three knives, one revolver, three rounds of bullets and some empty cover of bullets. Police said that Badar was accused in 12 cases including murder and abduction charges.
It's like they have a playbook, or something.
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They must have a form to fill out, and you know how they hate paperwork.
If I have to fill out these forms, then when will I get to polish my badge ?
So, they made copies.
I got it, where's the white-out ?
Where's Abdul ?
We let him run across the bridge. (snicker)
Investigators today (Monday) submitted charge sheet in the case of October 3 court bombings here, which left one person dead. District detective branch police Inspector Belal Uddin Chowdhury submitted the charge sheet to a first-class magistrateâs court, indicting a lone suspect in custody, JMB leader HM Masumur Rahman. Police with the help of locals caught him "red-handed" while running away allegedly after throwing a bomb at the ejlas of district Judge Abu Sufian.
Two cases were filed with local police station following the attack--one for bombing and another for killing. Masum gave confessional statement under section 164 of the CrPC before a magistrate, admitting to his involvement in the bomb attack. The suspected militant was also quoted as saying that he committed the desperate deed at the dictate of Bangla Bhai and Shaikh Abdur Rahmanâtheir two supreme leaders now on the run with bounties on their heads. Mojibul Haque, 80, of Char Ababil village in Raipur thana was killed and 15 others were injured, including the Joint District Judge, in the bomb attack, which was conducted simultaneously with the bombing of courts also in Chittagong and Chandpur.
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The Special Branch (SB) of police has asked 24 foreigners to leave the country before SAARC Summit scheduled for November 12-13, reports BDNEWS.
"You, you, you, and... ummm... you. Pick your shit and get out."
The decision was taken under the security measures of the SAARC summit. Among the foreigners, five are Pakistani nationals and two Libyans, said a SB source Monday. The source refrained from disclosing the nationality of the other foreigners. However, most of them are Indian nationals, according to sources.
"Hindoos, y'know. Carny folk. Always smelling of curry."
Against the backdrop of Saturday's deadly bomb blasts in New Delhi, the government started revising the security arrangements to ensure smooth holding of the summit. To avert any subversive activities during the summit, the SB launched drives to evict foreigners who were illegally staying in the country, officials said. Regarding the order, an official of Special Control Organisation (SCO) of SB told the news agency that this is a routine work of the SB.
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Duhhhhhhh, the problem as identified by Special Branch is ....foreigners who were illegally staying in the country, What can we here in the US possibly learn from this event?
Britain is responsible for the collapse of an Italian trial of a terror suspect, by failing to extradite him in time, the Times daily reported. Italian officials claim that Britain has taken so long to extradite Farj Hassan Faraj that a three-year deadline has passed and he can no longer face trial in Milan for plotting bomb attacks in Europe, the paper said.
Faraj, 24, has been described as the 'European envoy' for Iraqi terrorist leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who is blamed for car bomb attacks on US and British troops and the murder of Western hostages. London is blaming Rome, the paper added, saying that Italian prosecutors had not told them that the deadline was imminent. Officials in Rome insisted that Britain should have known the rules and that despite promises to fast-track the handover of terror suspects, Faraj had been held since May 2002.
Britain, embarrassed by missing the deadline, is now considering what to do with the Libyan-born suspect, who Italian police claim was linked with a plot to attack an underground network in Europe, The Times reported. A British judge approved Faraj's extradition last December but Home Secretary Charles Clarke allowed Faraj's solicitors time to make final representations, and the deadline passed. "All Britain needed to do was inform Faraj that he was on investigation and the process could have continued but they haven't even done that and the time limit has passed," Italian prosecutor Massimo Meroni complained to the paper. A British Home Office spokesman confirmed to the paper that the extradition warrant for Faraj had been withdrawn.
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Wasn't he scheduled to travel with Chuck as part of his entourage to the US?
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I have doubts this was accidental. I have a feeling someone at the "Home Office" was active in trying to run out the clock. Not all Englishmen are supportive of any part of the WoT. Many more people in the UK are against the WoT in it's totallity than are that way here in the US. These are the people who elect the Ken Livingstones and Galloways.
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Quite SPoD. There should be a lot of noise made over this - particularly as we were so eager to get our hands on the failed London bomber, Osman Hussain, who fled to Italy. We are not playing fair - heads MUST roll.
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I Guess what the Brits can do to alleviate the fuckup is to set Farj free but e-mail the Mossad his releasing location and cell phone number.
I am sure poetic justice will be done.
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Prince Charles must have asked for MORE compassion towards the POOR, SWEET muslims...
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We will know that we can win this thing when they just kill the vermine and drop him in the Atlantic without comment.
Were there any trails for the 30 or 40 who were murdered today worldwide by muslim scum ?
ASIO has publicly warned for the first time of the existence of a home-grown terror threat - Australian-born Islamic extremists.
The intelligence agency has detailed its concerns about militant Islam in Australia and extremists who advocate violence against "un-Islamic governments".
Its annual report says some Islamic extremists living in Australia have chosen to lean heavily on their perception of conflict as a battle between "Muslims and infidels".
"This perception engenders a sense of isolation and rejection, which is difficult for moderate elements in the Australian community to counteract, and the moderates are perceived to be part of the problem by the extremists."
The concern about home-grown Muslim extremists has been the key factor driving the Howard Government's tough new anti-terrorism laws, expected to be introduced into Parliament this week.
ASIO's annual report confirms it continues to identify Australians who have undertaken terrorist training or engaged in militant jihad.
It says several Australian-born Islamic extremists have participated in terrorist training overseas, while others have never travelled abroad.
ASIO is believed to hold genuine security concerns about an estimated 700-800 Muslims in Australia who have expressed support for politically motivated violence.
About 80 people resident in Australia, some of whom will be subject to the Government's planned control orders, are known to have undertaken terrorist training in Pakistan and Afghanistan.
According to ASIO, Islamic extremists in Australia generally adhere to a "Salafist-Takhiri" interpretation of Islam, which engenders a "sense of hostility and isolation towards the broader Australian society".
It says most extremists are influenced by events overseas, with some viewing the US-led invasion of Iraq as an attack on all Muslims.
"We know from our own investigations and those of our international liaison partners that Australia has been of interest to terrorists every year for the last six years," the report says.
"We must expect that Australia and its interests here and around the world will continue to be at threat from terrorist attacks, not only against diplomatic missions but also against a range of soft targets and critical infrastructure."
ASIO says extremist groups and individuals who are either based in Australia or have links to Australia remain "enduring priorities for investigation".
ASIO is rapidly expanding to meet the threat, hiring 224 recruits in 2004-05 - its biggest annual intake so far. Staff numbers will reach about 1150 by next June, eventually reaching 1860 by 2010-11.
The report, written before the latest Bali bombings, judges that Australian interests in much of Southeast Asia remain at threat from Jemaah Islamiah.
It notes that, even if key leaders Azahari Husin and Noordin Top are captured, the threat posed by JI will continue.
It says JI's failure to successfully attack the Australian embassy in Jakarta in September last year would likely influence planning for future attacks against Australian interests.
"JI and its associated groups and like-minded individuals are resilient and will retain a capacity to exploit support networks to facilitate further attacks."
In 2004-05, ASIO questioned 10 people under warrant who had links to extremist individuals or groups abroad. None were detained, but one person was questioned for almost 16 hours.
Adverse security assessments resulted in the cancellation of 12 passports, taking the total to 32 since September 11, 2001.
A total of 12 people were denied entry to Australia in 2004-05, including two unauthorised arrivals.
According to the annual report, 43 per cent of ASIO's staff are women and they make up 26per cent of senior officers. The number of staff drawn from non-Australian backgrounds has risen from 11 to 14 per cent.
In 2004-05, a total of 5046 unauthorised arrivals were referred to ASIO for assessment for a Further Protection Visa.
A total of 4223 assessments were provided to the Department of Immigration, an increase of 200per cent on the previous year.
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The Amsterdam police has arrested 2 men dressed in djellabas from the international ICE train. The two seem to have had a suspicious package or backpacks and were hiding in one of the toilets.
Some nice pictures are to been seen by clicking the link...
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UPDATE:
Two men were arrested on a train in Amsterdam on Tuesday after they were allegedly spotted with a "suspicious package". But their bag was found to contain nothing harmful. The men were released by 8pm after their rucksack was found to contain only CDs and Koran texts.
Heavily EFL for new information:
Police fired tear gas canisters and rioters hurled Molotov cocktails as violence hit a poor Paris suburb for the fifth straight night in unrest that officials said had also spread to neighbouring towns. The local prefecture said that the levels of violence in the troubled suburb of Clichy-sous-Bois were lower than on previous nights. However 12 people were arrested in the town, which has a large Muslim community, during a night in which a Molotov cocktail was thrown at a police station and 11 cars and trash cans were torched. The launching of a tear gas grenade at a mosque late Sunday threatened to further escalate the troubles.
Sort of like how Israel is always violating the terms of the hudna...
Police fired more tear gas overnight Monday to disperse around 100 youths involved in a stand-off with some 50 officers near the mosque. The area was quiet by 1:00 am (midnight GMT). In another worrying development, Monday night was the first time that the unrest was reported to have spread to neighbouring areas of the Seine-Saint-Denis region abutting Paris.
Oops. The nutters see they can get away with it...
Just after midnight in nearby Montfermeil, the municipal police garage was set ablaze and two cars destroyed, a prefecture spokesman said. Elsewhere in the towns of Sevran and Aulnay-sous-Bois police were subjected to "stone-throwing" gangs but there were no injuries, according to the local prefecture. Small fires were also lit in the towns. One police source told AFP that "the Clichy rioters are being copied in Sevran, Neuilly-sur-Marne and Bondy", where he said vehicles were torched. However the prefecture described the latest trouble as "harassment" by small groups of 10 or 15 people rather than the "rioting" seen last week.
"Nothing but a flesh wound."
Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy -- who has implemented hardline urban security policies in his bid to be a conservative candidate in France's 2007 presidential elections -- visited the administrative headquarters responsible for the suburb. "Everyone has to understand that my determination is absolute" in confronting the violence, he told journalists. Sarkozy, who is also leader of France's ruling UMP party, vowed to wage a "war without mercy" on crime in the Paris suburbs just a week before the rampages.
Ah yes, Sarko. Your declaration of war has been decisively answered. Do you have your battle plans ready?
The minister said Clichy-sous-Bois and the surrounding area would be the first to try out his latest initiative: cameras on police patrol cars to capture suspects' actions.
We presume these are flame retardant security cameras.
Asked about the tear gas grenade at the mosque, he admitted that it was of the type used by anti-riot police but cautioned "that does not mean that it was fired by a police officer."
File that under "Compelling Explanations." Or file it under stolen police gear being used to incite the rubes. Or misleading public opinion.
The families of the two boys killed snubbed Sarkozy's invitation to meet with them, and called the tear gas incident "disrespectful." "We are asking for calm, we are asking for justice and we are asking for the riot police to leave," Siyakah Traore, brother of one of the victims, told a press conference at the mosque.
Is a link to a translation of a Danish article posted on Free Republic concerning seeveral nights of rioting in the city of à rhus, containing this little gem:
"Saturday, a 16 year old from Somalia was jailed for comitting dangerous violence, because he attacked a bakery with large rocks. One rock barely missed the bakers face.
"We are tired of being oppressed. We are tired of the police raiding our parents. We are tired of the police stopping our cars, and raids us in public and damages our honour.»
"We are tired of the police beating up our friends, like they did this afternoon", screams the younf man with his face covered.
He calles himself 100 percent palestinian, born in a refugee camp in Lebanon, 19 years ago, and is now unemployed in Denmark.
"The police has to stay away. This is our area. We rule this place"
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Withdraw their benefits/welfare and the trouble will cease overnight. An Institute for Public Policy Research study of the 2001 Census (UK) revealed only 15% of all Somalis living in the UK were employed.
Failing that, start shooting.
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The Euros are dumb but they're beginning to see the light. Watch for quiet but steady and increasing numbers of expulsions back to country of origin.
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I'm expecting Cindy Sheehan to call for the withdrawal of France from "occupied Paris" any second now.
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I hope the "Phrench" will have a lot of Hudnas in the near future because Hudna's are what the Mooslimbs need in order to get organized for the final takeover.
As a side point I advise the PC french police to avoid at all cost offending the "HONOR" of the Mooslimb thiefs, gang rapists, and believers, cause you know there's nothing more enraging to a young Mooslimb than offending his "HONOR".
It is unbelievable how low a western nation can get in order to avoid facing the truth.
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We may too stupid too survive, as you say. But, we french will do it with style you Americans (pa-tooey) can only dream about.
Allan ahkbar!!
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Frighteningly, the rhetoric sounds like Cincinnati in early 2001.
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Ahhh, and now for my favorite quote about France:
"I'd rather have the German Army in front of me than the French Army behind." - Gen George S. Patton
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Sarkozy might want to study the US techniques applied to Fallujah. Or maybe the old Roman techniques applied to Carthage. France is at war with Islam, whether they admit it or not. A war with only one side fighting is still a war.
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The quoted statistics about burnt out cars and attacks on police vehicles over the past year found in the second LGF post is amazing. It appears things are worse than you'd think. French culture has a whole lot more to worry about than the decline of the french language.
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lotp: That piece you linked to is from Strategy page, not Stratfor. There's a major difference. Strategy Page is run by James Dunnigan (one of the founders of the old SPI wargames company) and knows what it's talking about. Stratfor is run by someone else, and peddles recycled conventional wisdom.
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#16, Welfare didn't stop the chaos in New Orleans. It's all right there cooking away just benieth the Urbanian surface. You can spray paint a cowchip gold, but that don't make it a Kugerrand my friend. Keep your powder dry.
Anyway, the "events" at clichy may make headlines (unlike for example the beating to death of a family father in broaddaylight by youths who disliked him photographing their 'hood), but it's business as usual.
Tidbits:
-According to what I've heard in a political talkshow, a BAC (antigang) policeman lost in hand during one of the riots (remember a police union evoked "civil war", and asked the gvt to send in the army).
-There was similar if not MSM-covered riots in Vaulx-en-Velin this week end, complete with stonings, firebombings and burnt cars (
- Also, business as usual (that is, urban riots) in the towns of Sevran, Bondy, Aulnay, Sedan (http://www.france-echos.com/actualite.php?cle=7420 ), Agen,...
I repeat myself, but there are about 1000 riot-prone (as soon as police goes in) "no go zones" in France (monday in conservative Radio-Courtoisie I've heard a 1202 2005 estimate), with 30 000 torched cars a year; Sarkozy, the "talk the talk" interior minister (who wishes to enforce affirmative action geared toward muslims and have state-funded mosques) said so far 9000 police cars has been stoned, in addition to untold thousand of firefighters trucks, EMT vehicles, bus,... police stations are besieged on a regular basis, witnesses are intimidated, "gauls" have to "behave" or go away.
Point is, there is an undeclared intifada in France, raging since the 90's, and getting worse every year. Police has lost control of the situation, the gvt is fully aware of it, and lacks the will to remediate it, so appeasement is the way to go.
During the OIF run-up, I've heard a gvt official tell a talk show host (slip of the tongue) that the prefects and the RG (police intelligence) estimated that if France joined up the USA, the muslim suburbs would "explode".
I have not doubt this was very much taken into account when Shiraq and co made their mind.
Add the islamo-lefitsts movements who theorize the "post-colonial" colonialism of France, IE "ethnic french" are colonizers on their own soil and the true indigenous people of France are the muslim migrants (I'm not joking!)... And we all knbow that the duty of the oppressed indigenous native people is to rebel against the colonizers...
This situation is explosive, explosive; in away, this is very funny, because I'm a 50% believer in Eurabia, and it all makes sense to me; what's even more funny is the incredibly peecee french MSM, who are mouthpieces for the Arab Policy Of the France(Tm) and are so quite anti-zionist(welkl,they're leftists, too)... not realizing the ideas of anti-zionism also justify the revolt of our own self-styled "paleos".
France has built for herself an "occupied territories" problem! This is hilarious!
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a molotov or rock or bottle is a deadly weapon. Get serious, France, shoot the one's leading, close the mosques, stop the checks, start deporting the vermin back to their "homes"
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GET OFF MY LAWN YOU BASTARDS!!! GO BACK TO WHATEVER ISLAMIC REPUBLIC SHITHOLE YOU CAME FROM!!!
#22
No, it's not hilarious. Not everybody in France is a PC Nutter, and a lot of decent people are going to get hurt along with the bad guys before France wakes up.
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is there any evidence this is actually islamist in direct inspiration, as opposed to hooliganism of unemployed immigrant youths (and i mean direct, not simply that Islam makes them less likely to be upwardly mobile than other immigrants, or whatever) Im not saying there isnt, id just like to see a link, to a reputable source, thats all.
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liberalhawk raises an interesting point. I noticed a lot of obvious non-muslim, non-arab types in the crowds. What other groups stand to benefit from this sort of thing and are they contributing to it?
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WOW! The links you attached were frightening! I can't/ but can believe what has happened in France
I've always wondered why Edith Cresson was kicked out so fast after her anti-immigrant remarks--maybe she was prescient?
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Secret Master- The French ghetto, like the American, is famous for the ideas of victimhood by the government and that one should be free do do whatever feels good at the moment. This especially dangerous in France, where it is combined with a hotheaded Muslim culture. A perpetually angry person who lives off the thrill that "hurting the man" can be found all over the ghettos. The Muslims here are simply providing a good oppurtunity for this to be utilized.
"La Haine" (Hate) is a thought provoking movie when trying to look at the french ghetto. Compare it to Americas', and you will see some frightening similarities. La haine attire la haine...
WASHINGTON â The U.S. Senate prepared to go into closed session Tuesday after Democrats enacted a rare parliamentary rule forcing the shutdown of the chamber so senators could speak in a classified session about the lead-up to the war in Iraq.
Foodfight!
Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid demanded the chamber be closed so they could hold a secret session that they say was prompted by "misinformation and disinformation" given by President Bush and his administration prior to entry into the war in Iraq. In calling for the closed session, Reid of Nevada added that the decision was also prompted by the recent indictment of I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's former chief of staff, on five counts of perjury, obstruction of justice and making false statements in the investigation into the leak of a CIA operative's identity.
"The Libby indictment provides a window into what this is really about: How the administration manufactured and manipulated intelligence in order to sell the war in Iraq and attempted to destroy those who dared to challenge its actions," Reid said. "As a result of its improper conduct, a cloud now hangs over this administration." Libby was not indicted for revealing operative Valerie Plame Wilson's name, but for not being forthcoming about where he learned her name and whom he told. The investigation is ongoing, however, Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald told reporters last week.
Republicans, who were clearly caught off-guard by the maneuver, called the move "gutter" politics. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee said the chamber was "hijacked" by Democrats. "Once again, it shows the Democrats use scare tactics. They have no conviction. They have no principles. They have no ideas," Frist said. "But this is the ultimate. Since I've been majority leader, I'll have to say, not with the previous Democratic leader or the current Democratic leader have ever I been slapped in the face with such an affront to the leadership of this grand institution."
Senate Select Committee on Intelligence Ranking Democrat Jay Rockefeller said Democrats were promised by committee chairman Pat Roberts that oversight would be conducted on the war, but nothing has been done yet. Durbin said Democrats want to discuss launching "phase two" of a committee investigation into whether Bush and the administration misused data to justify war in Iraq.
"The purpose of this closed session in the Senate chamber is to finally give the truth to at least the members of the Senate, to finally call to task the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee," said House Minority Whip Dick Durbin of Illinois.
Otter Reid: "I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody's part."
Bluto Durbin: "We're just the guys to do it."
A closed session is called when any senator demands one and a second motion is made. No vote is taken on whether to close the session. The last time a closed session was held was 25 years ago, Rockefeller said.
Republican Sen. Trent Lott, the former majority leader, said that the rule had been invoked two or three times under his tenure as majority leader, but only after a pre-arranged, negotiated discussion.
"This is not the way it has been done," Lott said. "We would never surprise each other ... This is very unfortunate for the Senate. It's not to say there isn't important information to be discussed ... but I'm astounded by this."
During the closed session, the chamber was shut to cameras, a security sweep was performed, and then Reid introduced a resolution calling for the launch of "phase two" of the intelligence committee's investigation.
"It is within the power of the majority to close down the closed session. They can do it by majority vote to return to the legislative calendar," Durbin said. "We're serving notice on them at this moment: be prepared for this motion every day until you face the reality. The Senate Intelligence Committee has a responsibility."
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As Reid yells, "I want Rove and Bush charged and I want a pony!"
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Just because you were not paying attention, or cynically calculated you had to vote with the President to stay in office and now regret that, does not mean that the President lied or misled.
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This is a logical extension of the John Fn Kerry non-position on Iraq (I was for it before I was against it; I want more troops and less troops). You take a position, but you do it behind closed doors so that the voters can't hold it against you.
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they say was prompted by "misinformation and disinformation" given by President Bush and his administration prior to entry into the war in Iraq.
You mean statements like this?: "Iraq repeatedly made false declarations about the weapons that it had left in its possession after the Gulf War. When UNSCOM would then uncover evidence that gave lie to those declarations, Iraq would simply amend the reports. For example, Iraq revised its nuclear declarations four times within just 14 months and it has submitted six different biological warfare declarations, each of which has been rejected by UNSCOM.
In 1995, Hussein Kamal, Saddam's son-in-law, and the chief organizer of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program, defected to Jordan. He revealed that Iraq was continuing to conceal weapons and missiles and the capacity to build many more. Then and only then did Iraq admit to developing numbers of weapons in significant quantities and weapon stocks. Previously, it had vehemently denied the very thing it just simply admitted once Saddam Hussein's son-in-law defected to Jordan and told the truth. Now listen to this, what did it admit?
It admitted, among other things, an offensive biological warfare capability notably 5,000 gallons of botulinum, which causes botulism; 2,000 gallons of anthrax; 25 biological-filled Scud warheads; and 157 aerial bombs. And I might say UNSCOM inspectors believe that Iraq has actually greatly understated its production."
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"Now, let's imagine the future. What if he fails to comply, and we fail to act, or we take some ambiguous third route which gives him yet more opportunities to develop this program of weapons of mass destruction and continue to press for the release of the sanctions and continue to ignore the solemn commitments that he made?
Well, he will conclude that the international community has lost its will. He will then conclude that he can go right on and do more to rebuild an arsenal of devastating destruction. And some day, some way, I guarantee you, he'll use the arsenal. And I think every one of you who's really worked on this for any length of time believes that, too."
Oh, wait. That wasn't Bush, that was President Clinton. You want to ask him to testify?
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It is now time to cross the Rubicon
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Frist needs to take off the gloves stop them cold. A simple majority can stop rules and he needs to gain the upper hand with regards to the PR factor. I would start with "Why go behind closed doors?" Play out here in public and let everyone see your moonbattery in full. This smacks of desperation because Fitz didn't give them what they expected.
GRAND CANYON, Ariz. (Reuters) - Democratic presidential nominee John Kerry said on Monday he would have voted for the congressional resolution authorizing force against Iraq even if he had known then no weapons of mass destruction would be found. Taking up a challenge from President Bush, whom he will face in the Nov. 2 election, the Massachusetts senator said: "I'll answer it directly. Yes, I would have voted for the authority. I believe it is the right authority for a president to have but I would have used that authority effectively."
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Is Reid as stupid as he comes across? I've seen 15W bulbs that were brighter than he seems. How did this guy ever get elected to anything beyond dogcatcher (apologies to any dogcatchers in the audience)?
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I wonder of the Pubs have the balls to shut him down as they should.
"We're serving notice on them at this moment: be prepared for this motion every day until you face the reality. The Senate Intelligence Committee has a responsibility."
Looks like Reid is planning on doing this every day until he gets what he wants. Time to shut him down cold.
This is crap. using the fillibuster to hold up Court appointments is crap. Time for the pubs to realise that they won the last election and grow a pair.
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The donks must be pretty upset with how well the Alito nomination is going down and how it has made everyone forget "Tricycle" Libby or whatever his name was. They know that after Alito is confirmed they will enter at least 20 years of irrelevance like the Republicans from 1932 to 1980. Too bad, so sad.
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You want a investigation? So do I. How about we start with these questions:
Why did Sandy Berger steal top secret documents during the 9/11 hearings?? Exactly what did he destroy?
Why did Joe Wilson lie in his Op/Edâ¦and what did he REALLY find out?
Why was Joe Wilson chosen in the first place?
What did Valerie know and when did she know it?
Why did Clinton close down Able-Dangerâ¦and what did they learn?
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Don't forget Jim 'wiretap' McDermitt's release of private cell-phone conversations to the public which some DNC 'operatives' just happened to have 'overheard' (and record) one day in Florida while on 'vacation'....
I am still waiting for him to be censored for that one.
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Steve, those questions won't be repeated in the lamestream media. We're obviously not deserving of any straight answers to a large variety of questions _they_ don't care about.
The Dems are actually smarter than everyone here thinks. They have a small core number of ideas in their version of the (un)truth, and as per Goebbels' admonishment, they're repeating them (or having the media repeat them) once-every-fifteen-minutes-to-half-an-hour... even on Fox.
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this is also a fund raising stunt
The theory is that if the Dems act leftist enough, that Move-on, etc. money will donate big time to them through the 2006 elections.
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A simple majority can stop rules and he needs to gain the upper hand with regards to the PR factor.
And how, exactly, can he do that?
The press is in the bag for the Democrats. Donks can lie endlessly, and the press laps it up like a dog with its own vomit.
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"Congressmen who willfully take actions during wartime that damage morale and undermine the military are saboteurs who should be arrested, exiled or hanged."
#23
Having looked at a couple of leftie blogs, I can tell you that the progressives would likely fellate Harry Reid if he came walking down their street right now.
GWB needs to get in front and remind people of ALL the reasons why we went to war. He has to stop the MSM and the Donks from redefining the reasons to include only WMD. The new meme is that Cheney and company lied about the intel and buffaloed the rest of us into going to war (which we're losing, of course). That has to stop, and GWB is the only one whose voice can penetrate the MSM.
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Having looked at a couple of leftie blogs... Eeeww!
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That has to stop, and GWB is the only one whose voice can penetrate the MSM.
No, he can't. He's tried before, and the press just keeps up the lies. A one-hour prime-time speech at this point would be covered by, oh, CSPAN and the cable nets, and MSNBC and CNN would probably dub their own voice track.
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Reid invoking article 21 without consulting Frist in advance is truely a headshaker. Then to allow Durbin and Schumer to pontificate about the Libby indictments once again confirms he is a baffoon and a political grand stander. Rockefeller got what he wanted but at what cost?
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It appears, when taken with the Libby thingy and the NYT Editorial about Cheney, and this shutdown stunt, that the Dhimmidonks actually expected the WH to be destroyed by now, Rove in chains, Pub meltdown.
Instead, what we have, since their wetdream scenario has gone up in smoke, as all of their slam-dunk moronic meme schemes do, is Dhimmidonk meltdown. There is no difference between Dean and Reid, Schumer, Durbin, Leahy, Kennedy, Kerry, Rockefeller, et al.
There is no process left. The rhetoric, lies, damned lies, screech speech, Moonbattery, and blind hate now overwhelms the Dhimmis. Negative IQ. Total meltdown.
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Every month, there are more murders and bombings around the world by Muslims against all others. The world is sinking into widespread armed conflict and we know from many experiences that the prepared, the willing, and the able will prevail. How can the democrats expect to twist this into an anti-Bush crusade ? I am beginning to realize that they are not as smart as we are. Simply put, they are 45 stupid jerks. Most of them have gained power because the African-Americans are even dumber, and vote for the democrats. I'm trying not to feel superior here, but I can't get a grasp of their logic to respond. It's like; while the whole town is fighting a massive fire, some firemen are sitting in the firehouse pissed that the truck left without them. 45 total asshats.
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I posted this at the Washington Monthly blog (Kevin Drum). I tried to be moderate (e.g., not my usual Rantburg self :-) just to see what kind of reaction I'll get, though I think I know.
For the record: I think this was a bone-headed move by Reid, unless he honestly thinks he can re-define the entire reason why we went to war.
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I guess I'm missing something in all of this.
We've known since the end of major combat operations that the WMD that most everyone thought were to be found in Iraq aren't there. That's been investigated, and it's clear that we had a substantial failure of intelligence and interpretation.
I think most Americans would agree with that, even if they don't read blogs. It's been in the news, and thee's been sufficient time for average Americans to consider and digest it. We had a national election and the WMD issue certainly was kicked around then.
Most average Americans also understand that there were other reasons why we went to war in Iraq. GWB stated those reasons on several occasions in his major set-piece speeches prior to the war: Saddam was evil, he violated the ceasefire and the UN resolutions, he was supporting terrorism, etc. None of that has changed, and indeed, those reasons are immune to any challenge regarding the Plame scandal -- even if Cheney himself were indicted, Saddam's behavior and the nature of his threat was what it was.
Further, most Americans will recall (especially when reminded) that right up to the time of the war, a fair number of prominent Democrats also believed, based on Clinton-era documentation, that Saddam had WMD. Okay, they were wrong too, but that doesn't change all the embarrassing (to Democrats) quotes out there from Clinton, Gore, Allbright, Kennedy, Kerry, etc.
So my question is this: what does Sen. Reid's action today prove? You want a debate on the intel, sure, fine, be my guest. You want a debate on why we went to war? Sure, fine, and let's trot out those pictures of gassed Kurds one more time. And let's remind everyone about how the sanctions weren't working, and why (as we know now). And let's remind everyone how impotent the UN is.
I honestly don't see how this does anything other than boomerang back at the progessive Democrats, because as much as average Americans don't like war, they liked Saddam a lot less. Screaming that 'Cheney lied!' inevitably asks the question, 'lied about what?' And as that question gets answered, progressives don't look so good. It either leads to the morass of the CIA (which has failed our last two presidents, don't forget) with all the inside-baseball nonsense that can only make Tom Maguire happy, or it leads to a perception that Democrats will do anything -- anything -- to tear down the country to seize power. That's not a winning strategy.
It strikes me that a better strategy for Democrats is to look forward, not backward. Tell Americans how you're going to ensure that Iraq is a stable democracy, and how that will lead to a better Middle East, and how that in turn will let us bring our boys home, and you'll have a receptive audience in middle America. America doesn't like war and doesn't like its soldiers in harm's way, but they'll vote for war when the alternatives are less good. They voted for the war by re-electing GWB in 2004. Keep re-visiting that, and you'll guarantee another loss in 2008.
Look forward, folks.
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Harry's a little slow--not the brightest bulb in the box. Although not a requirement for office, many elected politicians possess this characteristic, e.g. Kennedy, Byrd, Kerry, et al.
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Truth to tell, Reid pulled this stunt to get back at Bush. According to Reid, he "TOLD" Bush not to nominate Alito and, by God, he did it anyway! Reid just doesn't seem to get the fact that he can't TELL this President to do anything. Hey Harry, get a clue. The PRESIDENT nominates Supreme Court Justices, not Democrat Wankers like yourself.
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good advice SW, for a party that frames everything in Vietr Nam and Watergate and the New Deal. What new ideas have they proposed? New framewaorks? None, nada, zip, zilch. Hence, the rabidity, cynicism, and yes, anger.... to the point of violence.
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The Libby indictment provides a window into what this is really about: How the administration manufactured and manipulated intelligence in order to sell the war in Iraq and attempted to destroy those who dared to challenge its actions
Blah, blah, blah: you're a fool, a snake, and a traitor Harry. You also aren't getting another term in my state, you tricky bastard.
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In Closed Session doesn't mean a hill of beans, what is that going to do, erase the ink from their John Hancock on the bottom line of the vote? What goes on in the dark will ALWAYS come to light, even at Los Alamos!!
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Once again, the Dems have absolutely nothing to offer in alternatives to the President's agenda. They do nothing but tear down. All they have now to gain in their position are mistakes by the Republicans and legislation by LLL members of the courts.
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I'm still trying to digest the sum of it, but I believe it's far worse than nothing to offer - they've become cumulatively insane and, simply put, the faces of the enemy within. From Code Pink to Soros to Move-On to ANSWER to the Dhimmidonk Party - the whole fucking spectrum of Rainbow rubes.
I really thought that they would rally somewhere along the line and make it to 2008, and even have a good shot at the WH then, but I doubt it, now. Today tells us that there just isn't anyone left in the "leadership" with even a hint of a clue about where they're headed - down. Smells of desperation - and pointless, at that. They were thoroughly ridiculed from all sides on Fox, today, even Mara Liasson (sheesh) - I don't bother with the rest, anymore.
Mebbe the descent into violence will come well before '08. The failure of this moronic coup attempt centering around the laughable "Plame Affair" seems to have utterly unhinged them.
Hell, now is good. Let's get this farce over with.
Despite violence, including a nearby attack Saturday, Baquba sees improvement.
By Dan Murphy, The Christian Science Monitor EFL'd & emphasis added. Once again, Mary Baker Eddy's parish paper out-performs the MSM.
BAQUBA, IRAQ â Last January, Baquba was symbol of everything going wrong in Iraq - and its neighborhood of Buhritz was a symbol for everything going wrong in Baquba.
This city just 50 miles north of Baghdad was crawling with Sunni Arab mortar teams, snipers, and bombmakers. They had made parts of the city their own, killing police when they found them and driving the rest into hiding. Their grip was so strong that only 60 percent of the region's polling places opened for Iraq's first post-Saddam election. In Buhritz, not a vote was cast; some polling sites were torched.
But today, US commanders are pointing to Baquba as a symbol of what might go right. Every polling place stayed open all day for the Oct. 15 referendum that approved Iraq's new constitution earlier this month. Violence was light, while voter turnout was high.
While Sunnis, Shiites, and ethnic Kurds of the city all have different visions of Iraq's future, and bombs like the one that killed at least 30 civilians Saturday in a town near here are still common, Baquba is a reminder that at least short-term security gains are being made in many Iraqi cities, particularly ones outside volatile Anbar Province.
Asked why, Lt. Col. Rob Risberg, commander of the 1st Battalion of the Army's 10th Field Artillery Regiment, scratches his head, then says it hasn't been rocket science. "The Iraqi Army and the Iraqi police have really come along - they can handle most of what comes their way now,'' says Colonel Risberg, from DeLeon Springs, Fla. "We're here to back them up, but I think we're seeing the benefits of getting cops on almost every street corner." . . .
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And this requires a commitment to sticking with it until the job is finished. No public timetables, no speculation on when numbers can be reduced, no pronouncements or declarations along those lines, etc, etc.
Get done what needs to be done, then an orderly departure can be arranged and carried out.
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Always remember that every US soldier that becomes redundant in an area due to good Iraqi policing is freed up to reinforce other areas and perform other missions. This means as the enemy becomes weaker, we become stronger.
These things are not even human. They are sort of like "predator" in the movies. They exist only to kill and "enjoy" only the most vile things man can purpetrate on mankind...all in the name of a Satanic being called allan. Like the cockroach they cannot be "reformed"...only eliminated by whatever means. Read on, and be sickened as I was.
WESTERN NINEWA, IRAQ â Acting on information from a citizen in Tall Afar, the Iraqi Police uncovered the bodies of 14 people buried in a shallow grave just east of the city Friday. Twelve of the corpses were bound and appear to have been shot in the head execution style while two others were decapitated.
The bodies appear to have been dead for 1-3 months.
In the past month, Iraqi and US Forces have uncovered other grisly evidence of how terrorists maintained a grip of fear over the population of Tall Afar.
Terrorists used the city to train mortar teams, and then conducted attacks against innocent civilians. In the most recent attack, two girls aged 9 and 11 were injured when two mortar rounds impacted in front of their house as they played outside. Iraqi Forces provided first aid and US Forces evacuated the 11 year old girl to a Mosul hospital for treatment.
Since the Third Armored Cavalry Regimentâs and the Third Iraqi Army Divisionâs effective security operations, terrorists in Tall Afar have used boys and women to conduct attacks against security forces and the people of Tall Afar.
Recently, a young boy with a learning disability was coerced into throwing hand grenades at local citizens and Iraqi Security Forces. US Soldiers captured the boy who led them to a 60 year old man who instigated the attack. The man was captured and US forces are working with Iraqi officials to find foster care for the boy.
In the past month, four other incidents of boys from age 10-12 conducting attacks have occurred. Three involved hand grenades and one killed an Iraqi civilian who had previously told the children to stop these attacks.
Previously in Tall Afar, terrorists have used children as shields to move between houses during coalition operations.
In a chilling confession, one boy who Iraqi Police captured during the heavy fighting in September admitted to murdering people and even helping hold the feet of others while the older terrorists beheaded them. He had been sodomized and brain-washed by the terrorists.
Despite the cultural and religious taboos, terrorists continue using women to attack security forces.
In late September, a woman believed to be in her early twenties and also mentally impaired, detonated an explosive belt killing herself and seven other innocent Iraqis including one child.
Other instances of women assisting these men either by force or willingly have been documented. Employing female searchers, Iraqi Forces have found women hiding cell phones and weapons in their clothing.
Heaven help us if we fail in Iraq. The Israelis have endured for years. It's now spread to France.
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In the past month, four other incidents of boys from age 10-12 conducting attacks have occurred. Three involved hand grenades and one killed an Iraqi civilian who had previously told the children to stop these attacks.
They eat their young. Need I say more? We cannot kill them fast enough. A meme requires brains to live in and pedants to spew it. Those who preach violent jihad must be exterminated, starting with Iran's power structure.
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Nothing will be done about atrocities of this nature because the US Fanatic-in-Chief has an inclusivist policy toward these animals, who his faith-polluted mind treats as the stereotypical common-children-of-Abraham, like Jews and Christians. He wants al-Qaeda and Hizbollah to practice democratic electoral politics, so that his "freedom" rhetorical vomit will resonate among the ignorant and morally bankrupt. To hell with the freedom of conscience and movement - and even life - for Muslim pigs. To hell with the Bush-Rice Rainbow-Coalition. To hell with Iraq theater commanders who allow theocratic tyrannies to operate under the nominal Occupation. To hell with any son of a bitch who defends indulgence of al-Sadr's manning of a 10,000 member army in north Baghdad. To hell with .conman and trailingskank, because they are doormats in human form who would love to hang the Abu Ghraib intel-prep heros, personally.
Read for yourself about Bush's inclusivist folly, and decide if you want a ballot in the hand of Hamas animals or a bullet in their foreheads (in the alternative to vaporisaton).
http://www.jcpa.org/brief/brief005-8.htm
Bush Epitaph: HE REDUCED AMERICA TO BEGGAR STATUS, WHILE WASTING HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO SUBSIDIZE THE ISLAMIC CALIPHA RESTORATION, THAT LATER CHALLENGED THE AMERICAN HOMELAND. IN THE NOMINAL CAUSE OF FIGHTING TERROR, HE INDULGED TERRORIST JIHAD ELEMENTS TO THE POINT OF GRANTING LICENSE TO AMERICA'S MORTAL ENEMIES.
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Seems like they are culling what they consider defective Muslims.
We need to cull them.
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How many Muslims have you impaled, Vlad? And, again, I'm not talking about impaling them on your Vienna sausage.
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Vlad, you either believe that freedom works or you don't. Muslim, christian, jew, pagan, it doesn't matter, don't feel bad though, the liberals don't believe in freedom or democracy either.
You are demeaning the sacrifices made by the men and women in our Armed Services.
So you don't like president Bush huh?..BFD, why hang out over here then, go over to the KOs Kiddy Korner.
Keep it Simple Kid, I'm sure you'll get some atta boys over there, and they will appreciate all pissing you've done over here at Rantburg, to help out in the WOT effort.
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I was just wondering what public opinion would be if the MSM was doing its job and publicing these cowardly and inhuman acts. The terrorists would not do it if there was a huge public worldwide outcry against it because their funding would dry up.
Yet you won't hear a breath of this on CNN or even FOX news.
Zac and the other murders do it because the MSM allows them to get away with it - the MSM [willingly] goes out of its way to provide them COVER (see Beslen).
That makes CNN/BBC/ABC/CBS/NBC/etc... ACCESSORIES TO TERRORISM in my book.
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Still enough to earn Vlad a heartfelt one-finger salute from this fan of yours, trailing wife. You remain one of the more erudite and consistently polite contributors hereabouts and are amongst the least deserving of any abuse.
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Now, Zenster, you're just gonna get Vlad horny.
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Vlad just reached the end of his string. Take note that there is no lull in the atrocities. There is no lull in the creeping conflict. Yes, if the media had a soul, the muslim scum would go underground. But this odd blessing in disguise, the media are supporting the scum so they are expanding their terror. Meanwhile, we, the normals, have grown in resolve and in numbers. When the media finally comes clean, which will probably occur on their deathbed, the dim wits will join for the final assault, and the muslims will kiss their sorry asses good-by. Maybe the extreme lefty Jews will even snap out of it and make some pro military movies.
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Thank you, Zenster. That is very kind of you to say. It is truly a pleasure to be included in this site full of so many gallant ladies and gentlemen, from whom I've learned so very much over the years since I found this gift of Fred's. (I've even learned from the trolls. At the beginning Mr. Davis, and later dear Mrs. Davis, had to keep explaining to me that some people aren't merely ignorant, but irredeemebly mean and stupid. I hadn't met any in my sheltered life, you see. (Trailing daughter #2 just chimed in that they were there, I just didn't notice, but how would she know?))
#18
Vlad is showing Joe-like symptoms of falling off his meds.
Vlad, Keep taking the meds, pry off, the All Caps key, and have some respect for your fellow burgers, even if you do disagree. We all want to reach the same goalbut just have disagreements aobut direction. And with such poor maps and so much road construction, it's no surprise.
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Me thinks Vlad is either having fun with us, or thinks he knows us better then he doe's. Muslim's get mad and re-act, good or bad. We get mad, and wonder how we can solve the problem.
BAGHDAD - Iraq said on Tuesday a Moroccan militant wanted in connection with the Casablanca bombings in 2003 had been linked to three simultaneous car bombings in Balad that killed more than 100 people in September. âMohsen Khayber, aka Abdul Rahim, a Moroccan-born extremist, is a terrorist wanted by Moroccan authorities,â the Iraqi government said in a statement, offering a financial reward for information leading to his arrest in connection with the Balad attacks. It did not give a figure for the reward.
The statement said security officials had found evidence that Khayber, who also uses the alias Abdul Majid Al-Libbi, had moved to Syria in early 2004 where he helped channel foreign militants from Morocco into Iraq.
Couple of Moroccan diplomats were kidnapped in Iraq by al-Q, they sez they're being put on "trial". Guess we know the verdict
The Sept. 29 attacks in the mixed Shia and Sunni Arab town of Balad were among the most deadly in recent months. Two bombs targeted a Shiâite neighbourhood market at dusk, while a third went off about half an hour later nearby. âThe near simultaneous three car series of explosions ... killed more than 100 Iraqi civilians,â the statement said. It did not say how security forces had linked Khayber to the attacks.
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DUBAI, Nov 1 (Reuters) - Iraqi President Jalal Talabani said in remarks published on Tuesday he would oppose the use of Iraqi territory as a launchpad for any U.S. military strike on Syria.
"I absolutely reject that Iraqi territory be used as a launchpad for any military strike against Syria or any other Arab country," Talabani told Arabic daily Asharq Al-Awsat. "But this is my personal opinion and my capabilities are limited in confronting America's might ... I cannot impose my opinion on them," he added in an interview.
U.S. President George W. Bush said last month that military action would be a last resort to deal with Syria, which Washington accuses of allowing foreign fighters to cross the border into Iraq, where U.S. troops are fighting a blooding insurgency. Talabani, who also heads the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK), had a long-standing alliance with Syria which allowed him to operate from its territory against former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein.
Interesting
"I will not say a word against Syria which I owe a lot to. If I have anything to say I will relay it directly to brother (Syrian President) Bashar al-Assad," Talabani said.
Fears of U.S. military action heightened following a U.N. investigation which implicated Syrian officials in the killing of former Lebanese prime minister Rafik al-Hariri, an opponent of Syrian domination of his country, and 22 others in February. The report said the killing was organized by Syrian security officials and their Lebanese allies.
The Security Council voted unanimously on Monday for a resolution ordering Syria to cooperate fully with the U.N. investigation or face possible "further action." The resolution warns the council "could consider further action" if Syria does not meet demands in the resolution. Syria denies the charges and says it was conducting its own probe.
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OK...then use Iraq as a blocking force and launch from the Med.
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Talabani seems to have no issues with the current cross border operations to disrupt terrorist pipelines.
So all hes saying he wouldnt support is a major conventional strike. Which is meaningless, as we almost certainly dont intend such an attack. So he might as well collect some brownie pts in the arab world for opposing something thats unlikely anyway.
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Is Talibani playing good cop to Bush's bad cop?
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theres surly some big old areas of desert that could hide some make-shift refueling stations in Iraq surly? I do not think the Iraqi goverment would refuse a higly covert use of desert airfield s for short amounts of time ie 2 to 5 days and i wouldnt even be so sure as to say they wouldnt let Israeli jets refeul from that kinda airfield. Arabs nations in the past have said nearly always said 'oh no your not launching from here never' but eventually come round to agrements for short term basing or airstrips - i think anyway from memory.. On the subject of Iran anyone know if thier Kilo class subs are ever tracked and also if they do carry that russian torpedo thats a 300knot carrier killer? the one that bleeds air out its nose to create an air cavity around it like when a sub launched ballistic missle is fired so it never touches the water, im sure china have em and wouldn't mind betting the mullahs bought a few too
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"I absolutely reject that Iraqi territory be used as a launchpad for any military strike against Syria or any other Arab country,"
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Ehhh they have a big turnover in the gov coming next month Dec 15. I think this is just politics without much substance. Politicians love to blame X for problems or complain or claim to fix this or that. Just look here in the states for reference in 06' or 08' run ups thier will be polititions saying all kinds of crap that the dont plan to back or pursue past the next election. I dont think this is a good way for politics to work but unfortunatley it is how our polititians run things and sure to be spread to Iraq were we are basicly being thier format or rough outline, some good some bad will flow over. All round I think it will work out things will never be perfect but I do beleive our system is the best game in town.
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Shep-
My understanding is that there are a couple of sites out in the western Iraqi desert - especially the 'H' bases - that are effectively off limits to the rest of the world. Those are huge places, capable of swallowing wings of B-52s or C-5s. All kinds of ops could be - and probably are - run out of there.
As far as the Iranian Kilos, keep something in mind. No matter what weapons they have, there is a drastic difference between Ability and CAPability. The Shkval is a pretty impressive weapon, IF it has a nuclear warhead and IF its supposed performance specs are accurate. (The folks I have talked to say that it is wickedly fast, but not 300 Kt/h.) It is very short ranged - a sub skipper wanting to use one would have to get sucidally close to the CV, which means getting through the most sophisticated ASW defenses on the planet. Then once he launches, something moving that fast is going to make a LOT of noise, pointing right back to the sub. Finally, something going that fast underwater is going to move only in a straight line. Any kind of warning at all gives the target a fighting chance.
Mind you, I'm not saying it's impossible - but it's not the kind of threat that some folks would like you to believe.
Mike
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I'd imagine, given developments, that anything leaving the Iranian shore is followed and targetted
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Baghdad, 1 Nov. (AKI) - A child thought to be just ten years old, wearing an explosives belt, has died in a roadside explosion at the al-Quds intersection, near the oil rich city of Kirkuk. The 'suicide' attack occurred as a car carrying a senior Iraqi police official, Colonel Khatab, passed by. The official and his driver were wounded and are being treated in hospital. The report of such a young child being used for terror attacks comes as the US military issued a report showing how difficult it can be for its soldiers to prevent roadside bombs.
The report examined combat operations in and around Baghdad over a five day period. It notes that soldiers found several powerful roadside bombs hidden in two vehicles and also caught insurgents planting a bomb on a street and defused it. Seven American servicemen were also killed in two separate roadside attacks
In October, 93 American troops were reported killed, making it the fourth-deadliest month in the war for them. Iraqi civilian losses go mostly uncounted. Military commanders in Iraq expect attacks by Sunni insurgents to intensify ahead of the 15 December parliamentary elections and warn that roadside bombs are becoming increasingly sophisticated.
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Military commanders in Iraq expect attacks by Sunni insurgents to intensify ahead of the 15 December parliamentary elections and warn that roadside bombs are becoming increasingly sophisticated.
Impose a curfew, and make it VERY clear that anyone caught out on the streets during that curfew runs the risk of losing their life.
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This reeks of desperation amongst the rat bastards. (Oh, for .com's facility with the language of anger!) May their bellies roast in hell, and their moustaches be shaved off daily with a rusty sword, for what they did to that child. And may they very soon be sent to face their god.
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Not a child of a mullah or baath general I'll bet.
They have such willingness to sacrifice the children of others.
I wonder if the child was normal. Haven't the scum used retarded children before?
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i think its standard islmozoid tactic john to use children, i'd imagine if you looked into it you'f find kids all around the world used by islamonuts. Life is cheap to these savages, i wouldnt mind betting either that the parents are not free of blame, im sure i've heard/read of Osamanouts selling thier kids to boom squads before, not definate but im sure someone knows
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This reeks of desperation amongst the rat bastards.
I completely agree with you TW. Using kids for scouts, decoys, and shields is in itself despicable. But to use them as weapons speaks less about their viciousness and more about their desperation.
Baghdad, 1 Nov. (AKI) - The terrorist group Al-Qaeda in Iraq, led by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, has claimed responsibility for the kidnapping of two employees of the Moroccan embassy in Baghdad captured on 20 October and said that two men would now be subject to "proceedings". The two Moroccan embassy staff were kidnapped while they were travelling on a highway, considered to be extremely dangerous, that links the Iraqi capital to Amman, the Jordanian capital.
"Following the interrogation of our prisoners, the employees of the Moroccan embassy, we have decided to send their case to the Sharia Committee where they will be able to make a judgement on these kinds of people," said a statement released by the group on the Internet.
To prove that the Moroccans had indeed fallen into the hands of al-Zarqawi's group, internet sites linked to al-Qaeda have not only published the statement released by the Iraqi terrorist organisation but also the identity documents of the two Morrocan embassy employees, Abdelkrim El Mouhafidi, the advisor to the diplomatic mission, and driver, Abdelrahim Boualam. On Monday, the Sunni Council of the Ulema made an appeal for the release of the Moroccan nationals.
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I'd say that all foreign personnel in Iraq would be the ideal test market for RFID locator chips.
BAGHDAD - Six American soldiers were killed in separate attacks on Monday. Four soldiers from the Armyâs Task Force Baghdad soldiers died on Monday when their patrol struck a roadside bomb in Youssifiyah, (20 kilometers) 12 miles south of Baghdad in an area known as the âtriangle of death.â
Two other soldiers from the 29th Brigade Combat Team were also killed in a bombing on Monday near Balad, 80 kilometers (50 miles) north of Baghdad. Those deaths raised the death toll for October to more than 90, the highest monthly total since January when 107 American service members died.
In Washington, Pentagon spokesman Lawrence Di Rita said there is no readily apparent explanation for why the number of US casualties was higher in October than in previous months. But he said the insurgentsâ roadside bombs - which the military calls improvised explosive devices, or IEDs - are getting more sophisticated. âWe see an adversary that continues to develop some sophistication on very deadly and increasingly precise stand-off type weapons - IEDs, in particular. Theyâre obviously quite capable of killing large numbers of noncombatants indiscriminately, and weâre seeing a lot of that, too,â Di Rita told reporters.
The insurgents continually search for new and more effective ways to use IEDs, he said, while US forces look for new ways to counter the IED threat. âWeâre getting more intelligence thatâs allowing us to stop more of these things, find more of them. So weâre learning from them (the insurgents) and the enemy is learning from us, and itâs going to be that way for as long as there is an insurgency,â Di Rita said.
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They seem to like bombs. How about giving them some B-52 strikes. We'll bring democracy to those SOB's if we have to kill every damn one of them.
DEBKAfileâs counter-terror sources evaluate the targeted airborne missile attack that killed two top terrorist operatives in Jebalya Tuesday night as comparable in importance to the January 2001 liquidation of Masoud Iyad, Yasser Arafatâs first contact-man with the Hizballah, who also commanded the first mortar shelling of an Israeli location.
Hassan Madhun who died Tuesday night was the commander of the Masoud Iyad Platoons of the al Aqsa Brigades. He was also the senior Fatah link with Hizballah and his agents were scattered across the Gaza Strip and West Bank. Madhun operated in the guise of a Palestinian security officer, while ordering the special terrorist unit under his command to execute a string of deadly attacks. His last operation was the drive-by shooting that left three Israeli hitch-hikers dead at the Gush Etzion junction east of Jerusalem on Oct. 16.
His companion in the vehicle hit by the Israeli rocket, Fawzi Abu Kara of Hamas, was Madhunâs superior in the Palestinian terrorist hierarchy. He was in fact the top Hamas weapons expert who ran the Qassam missile production lines, while managing the missile bombardment of Sderot and other points in the western Negev. He also designed the Gaza Strip tunnel network known to branch east towards - and possibly under - Israeli territory. Hizballah was the matchmaker that forged the Madhun-Abu Kara partnership-for-terror that was finally destroyed Tuesday.
What's with this "started"?
srael "started a war" with its air strike on northern Gaza that killed a local commander of the armed wing of Hamas and another Palestinian militant leader on Tuesday, a senior Hamas official said.
"Israel has started a war with this assassination and it will pay a heavy price," he told AFP, speaking on condition of anonymity shortly after the two militants were killed in an Israeli missile attack on their car.
The two dead men were named as Fayez Abu al-Qaraa from the armed wing of Hamas and Hassan al-Madhun, a local commander of an armed wing of Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, which is loosely affiliated to Palestinian leader Mahmud Abbas's Fatah party.
Qaraa, 38, was the first Hamas member killed in Israel's latest offensive on Palestinian militants in the Gaza Strip that was ordered after a deadly Palestinian suicide bombing in northern Israel last Wednesday.
The two were killed instantly when an Israeli aircraft fired a missile into their car, also injuring at least 10 civilians.
"There is no way we can speak about any quiet (period) faced with these continuous occupation crimes," Hamas's armed wing said, although it did not specify whether it was abandoning a de facto truce observed since late January.
Israel would be made to "repent of this crime", the group vowed in a statement.
"Our commander's blood weighs heavily on us and we will answer with blood for blood," it said. "You will see, not hear our response. The only language the enemy understands is war."
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"Israel has started a war with this assassination and it will pay a heavy price," he told AFP, speaking on condition of anonymity shortly after the two militants were killed in an Israeli missile attack on their car.
Anonymity is right, heh. Better not sign your name to that statement or you will get a Hellfire aimed at you. Hopefully, Israel will keep hammering the food chain leadership without letup. Actions->consequences^n power.
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An Israel Air Force missile strike on a car killed two Palestinian militants, including a leading Hamas man, in the Jabalya refugee camp in the northern Gaza Strip on Tuesday afternoon. Hassan Al-Madhoun was killed together with Hamas operative Fawzi Abu Al-Qara. Nine bystanders were wounded in the airstrike in the Jabalya refugee camp, Palestinian doctors said.
And a traditional car swarm followed.
Madhoun, a top fugitive whom Israel has accused of planning deadly bombings at Ashdod port and the Karni crossing between Gaza and Israel. Ten Israelis were killed in the Ashdod attack in 2004. He was also responsible for attempting to send a female suicide bomber from Gaza to Be'er Sheva's Soroka Medical Center. "This is an open war," said Hamas spokesman Mushir al-Masri. "They (the Israelis) are going to pay a heavy price for their crimes." Dozens of angry militants rushed to the local hospital where the bodies were taken. The gunmen fired into the air and chanted "revenge™, revenge™."
The two men were travelling in a car with a red Palestinian Authority security licence plate, witnesses said. The missiles hit the car only a few minutes after a convoy carrying Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas passed through the area, according to Palestinian security officials. A spokesman from the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, with whom Madhoun had previously worked, said that "our retaliation will be equal to the size of the crime." The spokesman, who identified himself as Abu Ahmed, was masked and carried an M-16 assault rifle. Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat said Israel was sabotaging Palestinian efforts to shore up a truce by carrying out the air strike.
In a separate incident on Tuesday evening, Palestinian sources said IDF ground forces backed up by helicopters surrounded two homes in eastern Jenin in which wanted men were suspected to be hiding out.
IDF arrests 12 fugitives in Jenin
Israel Defense Forces soldiers arrested 12 Islamic Jihad fugitives in the northern West Bank before dawn on Tuesday, including an 18-year-old Palestinian from Jenin who planned to carry out a suicide bombing. An IDF soldier was lightly wounded by a bomb during the raid.
The raid in the city of Jenin and the nearby town of Qabatya was the latest in a series of IDF operations against armed groups, with particular focus on the Islamic Jihad, which has carried out suicide bombings and other attacks since the disengagement from Gaza. Meanwhile, Palestinians in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday morning fired two Qassam rockets at the western Negev region. IDF operations in the Jenin and Tul Karm areas are expected to continue for several days, accompanied by strict travel curbs on Palestinians living around the two cities. Heading the most-wanted list in Jenin is Iyad Abu-Roub, believed to be the Jihad commander of the northern West Bank since the assassination of the Jihad's former military chief there a week ago. The IDF operation is being carried out largely by the Nahal infantry brigade. In a separate operation in the village of Zurif, located west of Bethlehem, eight men suspected of belonging to Hamas were arrested overnight.
Israeli security forces arrested a leader of the Hamas organization accused of planning terrorist attacks from the West Bank with the Islamic Jihad group. The man, identified as Munir Qassem, was a key figure in terrorist organizations in the Tulkarm area of the West Bank, according to an e-mailed Israeli government statement today. He was arrested yesterday, the statement said. ``Qassem was involved in the planning and execution of numerous shooting attacks and explosive device attacks at Israeli civilian and military targets,'' the government said, according to its statement.
Hundreds of security forces patrolled a tense Indonesian province Monday to prevent revenge attacks after assailants wearing black veils beheaded three Christian schoolgirls and seriously wounded a fourth. National police spokesman Maj. Gen. Aryanto Budihardjo said the grisly murders were carried out by "terrorists" seeking to destabilize Central Sulawesi, which has long been plagued by violence between Muslims and Christians. He said it was no coincidence that the attack occurred just days before the biggest holiday on the Islamic calendar.
More than 1,500 soldiers and police armed with assault rifles patrolled the town of Poso on Monday as Muslims flocked to markets to prepare for the Eid al-Fitr celebration, which takes place Thursday and Friday, to mark the end of the Islamic holy month of Ramadan. "The people who carried out this terrorist act hoped to spark a new cycle of violence just as relations between Muslim and Christian communities are improving," Budihardjo said.
So far, no arrests have been made and there are no key suspects, he said. Only six people have been questioned, including the wounded teenager. Fearing retaliations, religious leaders condemned the killings and urged calm. Both sides have refrained from blaming Muslim militants for the violence. "Until authorities arrest the killers and disclose the motive, it's too early to say this attack was religiously motivated," said Syafii Maarif, leader of Indonesia's second largest nonpolitical Muslim group Muhammadiyah. "But I can say the Muslim community is shocked and deeply concerned about the inhumane killing of innocent students," he said, adding that the victims deserve justice.
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"Until authorities arrest the killers and disclose the motive, it's too early to say this attack was religiously motivated," said Syafii Maarif, leader of Indonesia's second largest nonpolitical Muslim group Muhammadiyah.
From what I've seen in Indonesia, all this means is that if the authorities don't bother to arrest the killers the crime couldn't possibly have been religiously motivated.
Does logic run backwards below the equator? If it weren't for the Aussies, I'd have to swear that it does.
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The police an military are not out to prevent revenge attacks. They are out to prevent justice.
Justice would be rounding up every last allenist and putting them on a boat back where thety came from or to moose limb majority areas under pain of death if they should return.
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I see the Indo police are going all out to protect the Muslims but nonething to find the killers (who are most likely muslim....) or protect the christians from additional attacks.....
Look for a few more headless girls to show up as the police provide cover for the killers...
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Don't forget these muslims are Indonesian. They are taking that country one convert at a time, like Thailand. The gubments just don't get a religious war. They just don't conceive of one group of civilians eliminating another group without saying "May I ".
As long as they vote and pay taxes, everything'll be fine.
DEBKA: The threat of military action was embedded in the UN Security Council resolution. It was reinforced by US Secretary of state Condoleezza Rice when she spoke of âseriousâ consequencesâ â diplomatic parlance for military action â should Syria fail to cooperate with the final and conclusive part of UN investigator Dehlev Mehlisâ inquiry into the murder of Lebanese leader Rafiq Hariri last February.
The explicit threat of economic sanctions was deleted from the American-British-French draft demanding Damascusâ cooperation. It was dropped for the sake of a unanimous 15:0 endorsement to appease Russian, Chinese and Algerian objections. Instead, the resolution called for unspecific âmeasures.â However the motion was adopted under Chapter VII of the UN Charter, which spells out these measures as being âpartial interruption of economic relations and of rail, sea, air, postal, telegraph, and other means of communication, and severance of diplomatic relations.â
The same chapter permits the use of armed force if those measures fall short of their purpose. Syria is required to detain any suspects named by the UN investigators and hand them over for interrogation at places and in conditions determined by those investigators. The second tough clause states: suspects may be subject to a travel ban and a freeze on their assets. Rice and British foreign secretary Jack Straw both addressed the Security Council session to strengthen the implied phased threats of the resolution.
Faced with this torrent of menacing language, Bashar Assadâs close associates have already decided that escape is the better part of valor. Influential Syrian VIPs appear to have read the UN resolution carefully last week and are absconding. DEBKAfileâs intelligence sources reveal large cash withdrawals from Syrian banks, currency conversions and transfers to banks outside the country.
The flight of money was accompanied by an exodus of some of the leading families of Damascus â anxious to beat âthe ban on travel and assets freezeâ mandated by the UN resolution for suspects in the Hariri murder plot. The largest capital transfer â estimated at $6-7bn â was made by the tycoon Rami Makhlouf who lost no time in removing himself, business and family from Damascus to Dubai.
"Oops! Look at the time. Gotta run, see ya!"
Makhloufâs defection is a mortal blow for Assad and his shrinking circle of supporters. He is not only the manager of the Assad clansâ finances, his is also a close kinsman; Basharâs mother is his aunt, sister of his father General Adnan Makhlouf, who served the late president Hafez Assad in a top position of trust as commander of the presidential guard. His huge capital transfer and removal of his business center from the Syrian capital are capable of bringing the national economy crashing down about Assadâs ears.
His is not the only defection. Several other affluent Syrian businessmen close to the regime have also decamped. The second richest man in the country, Firas Tlas, has moved lock, stock and barrel, to Abu Dhabi. DEBKAfileâs sources report the secret flit of General Bahajat Suleiman, head of Syriaâs intelligence council and virtual overlord of the national clandestine services.
Desperate to drum up support from his fellow Arab leaders, Assad demanded an Arab League summit but was informed that a narrow forum was the most that can be convened. UN investigator Mehlis and his team were back at work in Beirut soon after the Security Council resolution was passed Monday night, Oct. 31. Mid-December is his deadline for winding up his probe.
Bashar Assad is confronted head-on now with a dilemma: which of his close relative should he surrender as a scapegoat? His young brother Maher Assad, or his sisterâs husband, Assed Shawqat? Both top the Mehlis list of Syrian suspects in the Hariri murder plot.
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The explicit threat of economic sanctions was deleted from the American-British-French draft demanding Damascusâ cooperation. It was dropped for the sake of a unanimous 15:0 endorsement...
Remember 2002 Resolution 1441 passed unanimously. "serious consequences" indeed. The devil's in the details.
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The largest capital transfer â estimated at $6-7bn â was made by the tycoon Rami Makhlouf who lost no time in removing himself, business and family from Damascus to Dubai.
Anybody want to start a pool on how long this A**hat continues to breathe? I figure once the dominos start to fall they will start whacking each other. That will lead to inter-tribal retribution...the sort of insane red-on-red we have grown to love.
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Right on Mouse. The Kalashnikov is to the ME what HIV is to Africa. The "whacking each other" is the key. They don't have a weapons problem, they only have a Class V problem/shortage.
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What happens if Assad falls suddenly is not just red on red violence.
There are democratic voices around, pro-market reformers around, Christian groups and Kurdish groups that seek more freedom, etc.
Unfortunately, the above groups are not as well armed as various Islamist and secular criminal groups.
If the Assad dynasty crumbles, it will be up to the Syrian Army to maintain order. They can probably do a rudimentary job of this for a short period of time. However, the progressive groups will be very vulnerable.
Syria has accused the United States of launching lethal military raids into its territory from Iraq, escalating the diplomatic crisis between the two countries as the Bush administration seeks to step up pressure on President Bashar Assad's regime. Of course, all the weapons and terrorists going the other way are no problem at all.
Major General Amid Suleiman, a Syrian officer, said that American cross-border attacks into Syria had killed at least two border guards, wounded several more and prompted an official complaint to the American embassy in Damascus. He made the allegations during an official press tour of Syrian security forces on the Iraqi border, which the US claims is a barely guarded passage into Iraq for hardcore foreign jihadis.
While showing off what he said were beefed-up Syrian border measures designed to blunt those criticisms, including new police stations and checkpoints, Maj Gen Suleiman alleged that his own border forces had come under repeated American attack. "Incidents have taken place with casualties on my surveillance troops," he said, near the Euphrates river border crossing between Syria and Iraq. "Many US projectiles have landed here. In this area alone, three puppies, one kitten, two baby ducks, two soldiers and two civilians have been killed by the American attacks."
The charge follows leaks in Washington that the US has already engaged in military raids into Syria and is contemplating launching special forces operations on Syrian soil to eliminate insurgent networks before they reach Iraq. "No one on Rantburg in the administration has any problem with acting tough on Syria; it is the one thing they all agree on," said Edward Walker, a former US ambassador to Egypt and Israel, who is now head of the Middle East Institute think-tank. "I've heard there have been some cross-border activities, and it certainly makes sense as a warning to Syria that if they don't take care of the problem the US will step up itself." But he warned that the increased blurring of battle lines between Iraq and Syria could turn a diplomatic stand-off between the two nations, playing out at the UN, into a fully fledged military confrontation. "It could escalate. With Syrian border guards getting shot, it could turn into a major issue." I don't have a problem with Syrian border guards getting shot. Do you?
In the Euphrates valley, however, the alleged cross-border fire fights are already a major issue. The Syrian military said that in May, in the divided village of Baghouz, which straddles the Syria-Iraq border about 350 miles north east of Damascus, Abdullah al-Hassake was manning a rundown concrete frontier outpost when he and fellow soldiers heard US helicopters. He went on to the police station roof to survey the impending battle between US troops and Iraqi insurgents, who flee to the border when under attack, and was killed by fire from the US helicopters. Syrian officials said that US charges that they were not doing enough to prevent insurgents crossing into Iraq are unfair. They pointed to new barbed wire and reinforced sand barriers across the 400-mile border, which cost £1.5 million, and claimed that they had deported or arrested about 1,500 foreign fighters heading to Iraq.
Much of the border is impossible to seal. Across the divide, the continuing violence in Iraq is all too evident. Both sides have strong ties with the regime of the former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein. "The people here are happy to help fighters go to face the Americans," said one local. But reinforced security on the Syrian side had made life harder, he added. That view is supported by some Western diplomats in Damascus, although US defence officials remain sceptical. "The Syrians have stopped actively encouraging jihadis to go," said one diplomat. "In fact recently they've tried quite hard to stop it."
Across the Euphrates, the border appears to be the likely stage for a future showdown between the US and Syria. "Sometimes the US soldiers fire at us every day," said Ibrahim Brahim, a Syrian security official. "Sometimes it's simply a mistake, but sometimes it's not. Mostly the US army wants to show us its power."
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POT -> KETTLE -> BLACK
I don't have a problem with Syrian border guards getting shot. Do you?
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I'm sure it's just a few innocent mistakes. You know what clueless bumblers us Americans are. Wandering around the trackless desert, braving the harsh and brutal Afghan, uhh, make that Syrian winter, it's a wonder how we ever manage. Our guys probably forgot to take the batteries out of the iPods and stick them back in the GPSes. So sorry, but *do* keep your head down. And whatever you do, don't shoot at them. It just make 'em twitchy.
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Does anybody know if we have any "natural allies" in Syria besides the Kurds? I'm not familiar enough with the place to say, and everything I've heard leaves me very uncomfortable with the prospect of what comes after Assad. Islamists or failed-state civil war? Do we try to partition the place?
All in all, I'd rather the Iraqis handled the heavy lifting on this one.
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In a just world, Mr. Assad, not a scorched stone of your fascist state would be left standing.
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North Vietnam in the last two weeks has stripped away all pretense of respecting the sovereignty or the neutrality of Cambodia. Thousands of their soldiers are invading the country from the sanctuaries. They are encircling the capital of Pnompenh. Coming from these sanctuaries, as you see here, they had moved into Cambodia and are encircling the capital.
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Statement from the Department of State (of your dreams):
We regret the recent inadvertant cross-border attacks by US forces into Syria. It was not our original intent to do this. However, we will not stop these attacks. But we regret them all, we really do. So please accept our present and future appologies, and for safety sake, please keep your heads down.
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It's not just the borders Syria has to deal with. It's the the former Saddam-regime-turned-financiers sitting in Damascus.
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And if the hard boyz were wacking the Syrian folks who dared to even attempt to detain them - who do you think the Syrians would blame?
You last name doesn't have to be Rove to spread disinformation!
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Bush should have the US embassy in Damascus pack up and sneak out in the night.
Of course, there's probably some painintheass American tourists walking around Syria like they're in the Bahamas.
The U.N. Security Council unanimously adopted a resolution Monday demanding Syria's full cooperation with a U.N. investigation into the assassination of Lebanon's former prime minister and warning of possible "further action" if it doesn't.
"What kind of action?"
"Further action."
The United States, France and Britain pressed for the resolution following last week's tough report by the U.N. investigating commission, which implicated top Syrian and Lebanese security officials in the Feb. 14 bombing that killed Rafik Hariri and 20 others. The report also accused Syria of not cooperating fully with the inquiry. The three co-sponsors agreed to drop a direct threat of sanctions against Syria in order to get support from Russia and China, which opposed sanctions while the investigation is still under way. Nonetheless, the resolution was adopted under Chapter VII of the U.N. Charter, which is militarily enforceable.
And you know how trigger-happy we are...
The resolution requires Syria to detain anyone the U.N. investigators consider a suspect and let investigators determine the location and conditions under which the individual would be questioned. It also would freeze assets and impose a travel ban on anyone identified as a suspect by the commission. Those provisions could pose a problem for Syrian President Bashar Assad, as well as his brother, Maher Assad, and his brother-in-law, Assef Shawkat, the chief of military intelligence. The Syrian leader has refused a request from the chief U.N. investigator to be interviewed. Investigators also want to question his brother and brother-in-law.
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Would the U.N. actually have the stones to ask Asad to arrest his brother? Chance of compliance is near zero but it would be fun to see them squirm. This Mehlis report has restored some of my faith in the U.N. I now concede that it can be tolerated if it plays certain limited roles, such as this one and a few of their less corrupt humanitarian projects. Whereas before I wanted it "wiped off the map."
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"Would the U.N. actually have the stones to ask Asad to arrest his brother?"
The UN does not exist for the purpose of this question. All that matters is whether the US, UK, France, Russia and China have the stones.
The US and UK clearly do.
Russia and China clearly dont want it to happen - but they would likely be antsie about casting vetoes against the western 3, and the (likely) majority of the rest of the Council, and in defense of a Syria that keeps embarrassing them. They also dislike violations of soveriegnty - which they see as precedents for intervention by outsiders in Chechbya, Tibet, Taiwan, etc. But which is a bigger violation of sovereignty - UN sanctions on Syria, or Syria knocking off Hariri in Lebanon?
The swing country is, as usual France. France's motives are mixed. On the one hand a strong traditional interest in Lebanon, and personal ties to Hariri. On the other the usual dislike of US influence in the region - somewhat softened in recent months, as everyone on both sides of the pond figures out that US-Euro clashes only help our real adversaries (no coincidenece that this reevaluation has happened since Dr. Rice took over at State) On the other hand France probabably still wants to keep the France-German-Russian axis, as a balance to dependence on the "anglo-saxons". On the other hand, Putin has been a very difficult partner, and German politics has shifted, albeit subtly.
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Speaking of the Germans, has anyone heard from our friend TGA since the formation of the new government? Some how I suspect his participation in it has muzzled him. Well, better to have him on the inside making history than outside watching. Good luck, TGA.
I've shut down the Microsoft server and we're now running under Apache exclusively. This will cause lots of bugs that'll become obvious in the next few days. I'll try and kill them as soon as they turn up. My apologies in advance.
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I run the same PHP code at work under both Apache and IIS. Unless you use server specific functions - you probably won't see a lot of bugs.
ISLAMABAD, Pakistan â A rocket-propelled grenade apparently was fired at a U.S. military helicopter ferrying relief supplies to quake victims in Pakistan's portion of disputed Kashmir on Tuesday, but the aircraft was not hit and nobody was injured, a spokesman said.
The attack occurred as the helicopter was flying over Chakothi, a quake-ravaged town near the Line of Control that separated Pakistan's portion of the Himalayan region from the area controlled by India, Capt. Rob Newell, a spokesman for the U.S. military relief effort, told The Associated Press.
"A United States Army CH-47 Chinook helicopter that was flying in the vicinity of Chakothi delivering relief to earthquake victims is believed to have been fired on by a rocket-propelled grenade today around 1:45 p.m.," he said, adding "the aircraft was not hit and returned safely with its crew" to an air base near the capital.
Newell said the U.S. Army and the Pakistani government were investigating. But Pakistani army spokesman Maj. Gen. Shaukat Sultan told AP that he doubted that any such attack took place, noting that road clearing engineers were blasting a road near where the helicopters were flying.
"The blast was huge enough to kick up dust which the pilot probably misunderstood as rocket fire," he said.
Sultan said Pakistani army troops carried out a cordon and search operation and spoke to witnesses on the ground, none of whom reported a rocket attack.
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send in Gunships with em too take out the rpg men, second thought just dont bother giving em anything.
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Good luck with that malnutrition thing. Let us know how you make out with the UN running in your supplies. Bye now...
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"The blast was huge enough to kick up dust which the pilot probably misunderstood as rocket fire," he said.
I'm inclined to think Army helicopter pilots can differentiate between 'dust' and a self-propelled projectile. It's that training thingy. Sorry, General: what you're selling, I'm not buying.
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When you lie as often and as consistently as Pak spokesmen, this comes automatically.
His problem is this, the village is on the LOC, manned by more than a hundred thousand Pak troops.
Yet jihadis are everywhere.
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B-A-R is right on. RPGs and other ordinance fired at our helicopter mercy flights are grounds for termination of said flights. We are fighting a war in Afghanistan, not Kashmir. Pull the plug on the Paks if this happens and tell the world, and cc Kofi, too, why we are doing it.
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Drop leaflets requesting the villagers to identify those who atttempted to interfere with providing their relief. If there is no action, switch over our food aid to nothing but diet grape soda and unsalted rice cakes then tell them they can haul it in on donkeys.
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Why do our countries continue to help these ungrateful, arrogant a!@#$%&s. Call me insensitive but i just dont care about the victims of this disaster. Not a cent out of my own wallet will be contributed to them. The same thing happened in Indonesia, the world came to it's rescue and all they ever done was complain about how the infidels are on their land. My govt. is still sending millions of dollars to Indo. and all they do is spit in our face. Millions of dollars is going to a corrupt government, i wonder where the money will end up?
Probably back on our home soil in the form of a terrorist attack.
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KABUL - At least two suspected Taleban fighters were killed and 12 others arrested after an armed clash between police and militants in Afghanistanâs southern province of Helmand, an interior ministry spokesman said on Tuesday. The clash occurred Monday after a group of Taleban loyalists ambushed a convoy of Afghan police in the Nahr-e-Saraj district of Helmand province, spokesman Yousif Stanikzai told DPA. âThe police returned fire, killing two of the militants and arresting 12 others,â Stanikzai said, adding that three policemen were also wounded.
Three other militants were arrested during a raid on a militant safehouse in the southeastern province of Logar, Stanikzai added. Police had conducted the raid following local intelligence indicating that Taleban loyalists based there were planning a suicide bombing in Kabul. Two militant suspects however managed to escape.
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Police in the Pakistani city of Rawalpindi have arrested four alleged terrorists, who the police claim belong to a banned sectarian group involved in the murder of a leading Shiite cleric Agha Ziauddin. The deputy inspector general (DIG) of police in Rawalpindi Syed, Moravat Ali Shah said that they also seized four hand grenades and four pistols from the men. Ziauddin was gunned down in January in the northern city of Gilgit and 15 people died in violence that followed his death. Hundreds of Shiites protested in the streets of Lahore and Islamabad at his murder.
The DIG said the four men confessed to having murdered Agha Ziauddin and that they were planning to attack two different religious procession with grenades but were prevented from carrying out their plan because of the strict security arrangements made by the police.
Pakistan has a long history of sectarian violence between majority Sunni and minority Shiite Muslims.
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A blast aimed at a convoy of U.S. troops killed an Afghan civilian and wounded five others on Monday in the eastern province of Nangarhar, a government spokesman said. There was no immediate reports of casualties among U.S. troops from the blast, south of the city of Jalalabad. Interior Ministry spokesman Yousuf Stanezai said the explosion was apparently caused by a bomb attached to a bicycle which went off as the convoy was passing.
Nangarhar's deputy governor Mohammad Asef blamed the Taliban guerrillas and said the bomb could have been triggered by remote control. Taliban officials could not be reached for comment, but insurgents from the ousted Islamic movement have been behind attacks this year in which more than 1,100 people have died. Most of those killed have been militants, but the toll has included more than 50 U.S. soldiers, the bloodiest period for U.S. forces in Afghanistan since they overthrew the Taliban in late 2001.
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Riyadh, 1 Nov. (AKI) - A Saudi minister has promised to sponsor the weddings of five Saudi nationals who were released from the American detention centre in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. 
Twelve Yemeni policemen died in clashes on Saturday, it has emerged. The fighting occurred in an area of the country which last year saw repeated clashes between Islamist rebels and government troops. Tribal elders in the north-western Saada province said the policemen were ambushed by armed men as they passed through the town of Munabbah. An officer related to the provincial governor of Saada, Yahia al Amri, is thought to be among the dead. It is not known who carried out the attack. 
Three killed in âcrossfireâ
Investigators today (Monday) submitted charge sheet in the case of October 3 court bombings here, which left one person dead. District detective branch police Inspector Belal Uddin Chowdhury submitted the charge sheet to a first-class magistrateâs court, indicting a lone suspect in custody, JMB leader HM 
The Special Branch (SB) of police has asked 24 foreigners to leave the country before SAARC Summit scheduled for November 12-13, reports BDNEWS. 
Britain is responsible for the collapse of an Italian trial of a terror suspect, by failing to extradite him in time, the Times daily reported. Italian officials claim that Britain has taken so long to extradite 
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WASHINGTON â The U.S. Senate prepared to go into closed session Tuesday after Democrats enacted a rare parliamentary rule forcing the shutdown of the chamber so senators could speak in a classified session about the lead-up to the war in Iraq. 
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An Israel Air Force missile strike on a car killed two Palestinian militants, including a leading 
Israeli security forces arrested a leader of the 
Hundreds of security forces patrolled a tense Indonesian province Monday to prevent revenge attacks after assailants wearing black veils beheaded three Christian schoolgirls and seriously wounded a fourth. National police spokesman Maj. Gen. Aryanto Budihardjo said the grisly murders were carried out by "terrorists" seeking to destabilize Central Sulawesi, which has long been plagued by violence between Muslims and Christians. He said it was no coincidence that the attack occurred just days before the biggest holiday on the Islamic calendar.
The U.N. Security Council unanimously adopted a resolution Monday demanding Syria's full cooperation with a U.N. investigation into the assassination of Lebanon's former prime minister and warning of possible "further action" if it doesn't.
Police in the Pakistani city of Rawalpindi have arrested four alleged terrorists, who the police claim belong to a banned sectarian group involved in the murder of a leading Shiite cleric 
A blast aimed at a convoy of U.S. troops killed an Afghan civilian and wounded five others on Monday in the eastern province of 
