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Arabia
Five Kuwaitis head home from Guantanamo
Five Kuwaitis who had been held in Guantanamo Bay for three years were flying home where they will be tried in a local court, a representative of the detainees said on Thursday. The five were among a dozen Kuwaitis imprisoned at the U.S. military base in Cuba during the 2001 U.S.-led war to oust al Qaeda from Afghanistan after the Sept. 11 attacks. Khaled al-Odah, Chairman of the Families of Kuwaiti Detainees at Guantanamo, said two of the five prisoners were in very bad health, adding that they were expected to arrive in Kuwait late on Thursday or early Friday.

They were identified as Adel al-Zamel, Mohammad al-Daihani, Abdullah al-Ajmi, Saad al-Azmi and Abdulaziz al-Shimmari. "Shimmari is a walking skeleton and Ajmi is suffering a nervous breakdown due to his imprisonment. He has been shouting and out of control," Odah told Reuters.
"He's a real nutball," Odah added. "He's really quite entertaining, as long as you don't get too close."
Shimmari was among five Kuwaitis who joined a recent hunger strike by 200 inmates to protest their prolonged confinement without trial.

The official news agency KUNA said Kuwaiti authorities received the five on Thursday and that they were expected to be tried in a Kuwaiti court. They are flying home on a plane sent by the government carrying medical and security teams, Odah said. Interior Ministry sources said the detainees would be allowed to meet their families before being taken into custody, but Odah said relatives were yet to receive approval for access. One former detainee Nasser al-Mutairi was freed last January but was later tried and acquitted of charges of undermining Kuwaiti security, weapons possession, joining al-Qaeda and fighting a friendly nation, a reference to the United States. But on Wednesday, a Kuwaiti appeals court sentenced Mutairi, 28, to five years in prison for "participating in hostile activities against a friendly country", and offences ranging from weapons possession to hurting Kuwait's interests.

Odah said Kuwait would soon hold talks with U.S. officials about freeing the remaining six Kuwaitis held at Guantanamo. They include his son Fawzi, 27, a religious studies teacher arrested in Pakistan near the Afghan border in late 2001.
He's the author of the seminal work "The Theology of High Explosives."
Posted by: Fred || 11/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  You'll soon be able to see them all 'live' at the Starbucks in Shark Mall being interviewed by CNN. There is no 'work-release' program in Kuwait, they'll simply just be released to warp around the ring roads in thier BMW's.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/04/2005 8:24 Comments || Top||


Bangladesh
Absconding JMB activist held in Satkhira
Absconding JMB activist Billal Hossain, 30, an accused chargesheeted in the August 17 bomb blasts in Satkhira was arrested today (Wednesday). Police said Billal was arrested from Kharibila Primary School ground in sadar upazila at about 4pm. He had blasted the bomb at new Judge’s Court compound. Seven of the chargesheeted accused have so far been arrested while 13 remained fugitive.

Another report from Chandpur said that in a rare gesture Joynal Abedin Patwary handed over to the police his son Rahmatullah, an accused of Aug 17 bomb lasts, on Tuesday night. His name was mentioned by Shamim Hossain alias Ghalib to the police in confessional statement.
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RAB recovers six powerful bombs in Chittagong
Our Staff Correspondent from Chittagong writes : acting on a tip off a squad of RAB conducted raid in a den of terrorists at Chakaria upazila in Cox’s Bazar district and recovered the bombs and the explosives including huge quantity of gunpowder and cable detonators. Sensing the presence of the RAB personnel the terrorists managed to escape from the scene.
"It's RAB! Lemme outta here!"
"Mother!"
"Flip-flops, don't fail me now!"
RAB sources said each of the recovered bombs is very powerful which can easily kill at least 50 people and damage property to a great extent if it explodes in a crowded place. The RAB also found letter written in tribal language in which the names of twelve terrorists were mentioned but the date was illegible. RAB personnel refused to disclose the names and identity of the terrorists for the sake of investigation.
"We'll be... heh heh!... talking to them!"
Sources said, the letter containing instruction to make at least 50 bombs with the bomb-making materials and asked to send those to Khagrachhari district mentioning any particular place, date and time. The recovered bombs are now in RAB-7 headquarters in Chittagong.
"Where do you want these explosives, boss?"
"Put 'em in the back room with all the rest of the explosives. And put out that cigar!"

Our Staff Correspondent from Rajshahi reports: Acting on a tip off a team of police of detective branch from Dhaka recovered two kilograms of explosives from the Parcel office of the courier service in Rajshahi yesterday morning. It is learnt, the DB police recovered a packet wrapped in polythene and paper board which was kept under the seat of a bike. The packet contains ingredients of making bombs including one kilogram of white powder, half kilogram of aluminium oxide and half kilogram of sulphur. The parcel also contains a number of leaflets of JMB and the same statements like those distributed with the bombs of August 17. Police arrested the manager of the parcel section of courier service Nazmul, employees Khaleque and Nur Hossain.
Posted by: Fred || 11/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...a den of terrorists...Sensing the presence of the RAB personnel...managed to escape...

The sly dogs.
Posted by: mojo || 11/04/2005 23:13 Comments || Top||


Britain
Two charged with planning terrorist attacks on Britain
more on the 3 arrests in Britain. looks like the jihadis are trying to move up from backpacks to car bombs


Two men were charged on Friday under anti-terrorism laws with planning to carry out a car bomb attack in Britain, possibly on a hospital, police said.

Waseem Mughal and Younis Tsouli, both British and aged 22, were accused of conspiracy to murder and conspiracy to cause an explosion, along with other offences. A third man, Tariq Al-Daour, was charged with offences relating to the possession of money and fundraising for terrorist purposes.

Police said the alleged plot had no connection with the July 7 suicide bomb attacks on London’s transport system when four Britons killed 52 commuters on three underground trains and a double-decker bus.

The men, who were arrested last month, will appear before magistrates in London later on Friday.

Police said Tsouli, from west London, was accused of having video film showing how to make a car bomb.

He was also charged with possessing slides of places in Washington in the United States which detectives suspect was “for a purpose connected with the commission, preparation or instigation of an act of terrorism.”

Mughal was accused of possessing a DVD entitled “Martyrdom Operations Vest,” a piece of paper with the words in Arabic “Welcome to Jihad” and a recipe for rocket propellant, along with guidance on causing an explosion.

Officers also charged Mughal, from Chatham in southern England, with possessing a piece of paper with the words “Hospital = attack”. A police spokesman said this was possibly a “terrorist code” but also had to be considered “at face value”.

Two days ago, the head of London’s police force Ian Blair said anti-terrorism detectives had thwarted attempted attacks in the last few weeks and warned that Britain faced a repeat of the July 7 bombings.

Two weeks after those explosions, an attempt to repeat the attacks was botched when four devices failed to explode.

Posted by: lotp || 11/04/2005 10:23 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Trio charged with terror offences
Three men arrested last month have been charged under the Terrorism Act, Scotland Yard has said. Waseem Mughal, of Kent, and Younis Tsouli, of London, both 22, have been charged with conspiracy to murder and conspiracy to cause an explosion. Tariq al-Daour, 19, of Paddington, London, was charged with fundraising offences under the Terrorism Act. They were arrested on 21 and 22 October and will appear at Bow Street magistrates court on Friday. The Metropolitan police said there were a total of 21 charges, with Mr Mughal facing 10 and Mr Tsouli eight. Among his charges Mr Mughal is accused of having in the bedroom of his Chatham home a DVD entitled "Martyrdom Operations Vest...for a purpose connected with the commission, preparation or instigation of an act of terrorism". He was also accused of having two pieces of paper in his bedroom - one with the words "in Arabic Welcome to Jihad" and the other "Hospital = attack". A recipe for rocket propellant and guidance on causing an explosion was also allegedly found in his bedroom. The other charges relate to conspiring with Mr Tsouli "and others... to murder a person unknown".

Mr Tsouli, from Shepherd's Bush, was allegedly found to have a video slides film on a computer hard drive showing how to make a car bomb. He was also found to have a video slides film showing a number of places in Washington DC. Mr Tsouli and Mr Mughal are accused of conspiring together to create a public nuisance by causing explosions. All three face charges of dishonestly obtaining property from credit cards belonging to others. Mr al-Daour is also accused of receiving money or other property that he knew might be used for the purposes of terrorism.
To The Tower with them...


Posted by: Howard UK || 11/04/2005 07:56 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  KILL EM'!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: ARMYGUY || 11/04/2005 9:59 Comments || Top||

#2  Funny how they still manage to avoid using the word Muslim, isn't it?
Posted by: Raj || 11/04/2005 10:22 Comments || Top||

#3  Standard operating procedure. Kind of like describing a shooter in Compton as "6-feet, wearing a basketball jersey and gold chains".
Posted by: Pappy || 11/04/2005 10:43 Comments || Top||

#4  Shoulda been "6-feet tall". Six feet would certainly be a valid identifier; costly in shooz, too...
Posted by: Pappy || 11/04/2005 10:45 Comments || Top||

#5  All three face charges of dishonestly obtaining property from credit cards belonging to others

Once again linking terrorism to general criminality.

Pappy, if the gentleman in question is 6 foot tall, those six feet ain't no size sixers, either. Tres expensive shoe leather, indeed. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/04/2005 12:14 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Chavez official accused of hiding 3/11 mastermind
h/t Barcepundit, who reports allegations that Nasar had been sheltered in Venezuela by a top Chavez official before fleeing after his presence was made public by a retired Venezuelan intel official.


A Syrian man believed to be a key figure in Osama bin Laden's terrorist network in Europe may have been captured by Pakistani security agencies, officials said today.

Officials speaking anonymously in Pakistan said today that they were trying to find out whether one of two arrested al-Qaida suspects was Mustafa Setmariam Nasar, alleged to have had a key role in the Madrid train bombings and to be linked with the July 7 attack on London.

Nasar, a 47-year-old Syrian, has been accused by prosecutors in Spain of having a key role in masterminding the Madrid train bombings in March 2004, which killed 191 people.

He lived in London from 1995 to 1998 and there have been claims that he could have been involved in setting up a "sleeper cell" in the capital. Several of Nasar's co-accused over the Madrid bombings have links with the UK.

The two suspects were arrested this week during a raid on a house in Quetta, the capital of Pakistan's south-west Baluchistan province, according to three Pakistani intelligence officials. They were detained after a gun battle with security forces, during which a third suspect was shot dead.

Pakistani officials have not yet confirmed that Nasar, who has joint Spanish nationality, is one of the detained men.

"I can only confirm that there was an encounter, and our security forces arrested one suspected al-Qaida terrorist while another terrorist was killed," the country's information minister, Sheikh Rashid Ahmed, told the Associated Press.

A Pakistani security source said the second suspect was a Pakistani from Jaish-i-Mohammed, a local Islamic militant group allegedly linked to al-Qaida.

Nasar was described by the chief prosecutor in the Madrid bombings case as a suspect in the "initiation, preparation and carrying out" of the attacks.

Tall, red-haired, pale-skinned and green-eyed, he has been able to travel without raising suspicion, according to Spanish police.

Nasar's name has been widely mentioned in reports citing security officials speaking about the investigation into the July 7 bombings, in which 52 people were murdered on the capital's transport system.

The four suicide bombers were three British born men of Pakistani descent from West Yorkshire and one Jamaican-born British national.

However, investigators have been investigating whether an al-Qaida mastermind may have had a planning role in the attacks.

Early reports suggested the police thought there was no direct link to Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida "hardcore".

However a firmer link with the terror group was suspected after a tape emerged in September of the suspected ringleader of the bombers, Mohammad Sidique Khan, which also featured al-Qaida No 2 Ayman al-Zawahiri.

The US justice department's Rewards for Justice website describes Nasar as an al-Qaida member and former trainer at terrorist camps in Afghanistan who helped train extremists in using poisons and chemicals.

It also says he is likely to be in Afghanistan or Pakistan. Immediately after the London attacks there were reports he could be in Iraq.

Last year, the US government announced a $5m (£2.8m) reward for information leading to the capture of Nasar, also known as Abu Musab al-Suri.

In September 2003, he was among 35 people named in an indictment handed down by a Spanish magistrate for terrorist activities connected to al-Qaida, and was alleged to have close ties with the suspected leader of the terror group's cell in Spain, a Syrian-born Spaniard named Imad Yarkas.

The last reported arrest of a suspected key al-Qaida figure in Pakistan was in May, when Abu Farraj al-Libbi, the alleged mastermind of assassination attempts against President Pervez Musharraf, was caught after a gun battle in a north-western town. He was later handed over to the US.


Posted by: lotp || 11/04/2005 08:51 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Is he occused or accused? Just being a pain in the rear ... speaking of PIAs:

Chavez, Castro, and Carter, the 3 Cs of venality and banality.
Posted by: The Happy Fliegerabwehrkanonen || 11/04/2005 9:49 Comments || Top||

#2  HF, you forgot Chirac.
Posted by: AlanC || 11/04/2005 10:21 Comments || Top||


Down Under
Bloodthirsty holy men still active in Australia
MUSLIM clerics in Sydney and Melbourne - led by radicals Sheik Mohammed Omran and Sheik Abdul Salam Mohammed Zoud - are still preaching hatred against the West, urging followers in Arabic to resist peace and support insurgents waging war against Australian soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan.

In open defiance of John Howard's proposed new terror laws and the Prime Minister's demand that Muslim leaders desist from inflammatory rhetoric, Lakemba cleric Sheik Zoud has used his Friday prayer meetings over the past month to praise Muslim fighters.

"Allah yinsur el-mujaheddin fe-Iraq (God grant victory to the mujaheddin in Iraq)," he repeatedly screamed during a 35-minute Arabic sermon at Lakemba's Haldon Street prayer hall in Sydney's southwest last week.

In further contempt of Mr Howard, Sheik Zoud's high-profile counterpart in Melbourne, Sheik Omran, also declared last month: "No victory (for Islam's brothers and sisters) can be stopped by George Bush or Tony Blair or John Howard."

Under expanded sedition provisions, people face up to seven years' jail for promoting feelings of ill will or hostility between different groups so as to threaten the peace, order and government of the commonwealth. This would include urging another person to engage in conduct that supports an organisation or country at war with Australia.

A third cleric - Harun Abu Talha, editor of contentious newspaper Mecca News - has also used Friday prayers at Sheik Omran's Brunswick mosque in Melbourne to attack "the criminal government of Israel that has been hurting our brothers and sisters in Palestine for so many years".

And during a prayer meeting last month, Abu Talha said: "We should not compromise our dean (religion) for the sake of peace." He concluded his sermon: "May Allah help the mujaheddin in Iraq."

The message the fundamentalist clerics are delivering to their supporters - mostly in Arabic - is in dramatic contrast to their public statements.

Last month, Sheik Zoud told about 400 followers in Arabic: "God grant victory to the mujaheddin in Kashmir and Chechnya, and Palestine and Afghanistan."

Sheik Zoud, head of the Sydney arm of the Melbourne-based organisation Ahlus Sunnah Wal-Jamaah declared: "Inshallah (God willing), dark days will descend upon America soon."

But during a newspaper interview last year, Sheik Zoud said: "I'm against all terrorism over the world. I'm against all terrorists who kill civilian people.

"Let the Australian people relax. Why everyone make the Australian people scared from the Muslims?

"We left our countries because of all of the problems there, and we move to this safe country to live the rest of our life."

After Mr Howard singled out Sheik Omran earlier this year for not doing enough to denounce terrorism, the cleric wrote to The Australian: "We consider ourselves Australians working for the betterment of Australia. Those of us who came from other countries appreciate how the people of this country have accepted us with open arms.

"Islam teaches us to appreciate kindness, and we wouldn't do anything to betray this gesture."

However, during the Ramadan prayer meeting last month, he ridiculed the US's botched handling of the hurricane and floods that destroyed New Orleans: "If they couldn't stop a tiny wave, then they cannot stop us uniting. If you don't unite, your faces will be smeared in dirt."

Sheik Omran's message, delivered just days after suicide bombers launched the second major attack on tourists in Bali, was received enthusiastically by the group of 150 men, predominantly in their early 20s and 30s, during a Friday sermon at Brunswick's Michael Street prayer centre in Melbourne's inner north.

Sheik Omran gloated over the fears held by Westerners towards the festival of Ramadan, saying history had shown an increase of militant insurgencies and attacks around the world at that time of the year.

"The West knows the meaning of Ramadan more than we do, it seems," said the Sheik, who was previously accused by the Spanish authorities of having links to an al-Qa'ida suspect in Europe.

"They fear the worst - unity. So what are we doing to unite and defeat evil?"

The following week, the sermon was given by Abu Talha, who joked: "We cannot say too much about the mujaheddin in this country."
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/04/2005 15:54 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Australia keeping tabs on 6 hard boyz
AT least six people suspected of planning a Sydney terror attack are under surveillance.

One of the suspects was the part-owner of a property in country NSW raided by police and spy agencies before the Sydney 2000 Olympics.

Security sources have described the property as having all the signs of being a terrorist training camp after neighbours alerted police to automatic weapons being fired.

The Middle Eastern father of two furiously denied his farm was being used to train terrorists.

No arrests were made but it is believed Operation Pandanus has shifted ASIO's attention back to the man's activities in the past 12 months.

The man has lived on a secluded property in a Sydney suburb with his wife and two children for at least three years. He is rarely seen in the street.

There was no sign at the home yesterday of ASIO or AFP agents, who were expected to begin raids after Prime Minister John Howard warned of a direct terrorist threat and rushed through legislation to assist arrests.

The Saturday Daily Telegraph revealed yesterday that home-grown terror cells had been stockpiling explosives and other material ahead of possible attacks on sites such as the Sydney Harbour Bridge, the Kurnell oil refinery and Melbourne Stock Exchange.

Armed agents are understood to be ready to swoop once the green light is given by authorities.

Prime Minister John Howard yesterday refused to give more information about the threat for fear he could jeopardise police and ASIO operations.

"It should not be assumed there are going to be arrests. Whether there are arrests is a matter for police," he said.

"We are kept informed if anything in particular is going to occur."

Mr Howard said security agencies knew much more than they did six months ago about people in Australia who want to inflict harm here or support terrorist attacks overseas.

"There have been people in our community for some time who would want to do harm, who were pleased about the terrorist attacks in Bali and in London and pleased about some of the terrorist attacks elsewhere in the world," Mr Howard said.

"They have been within our community for some time – a tiny minority. The authorities have a greater understanding of what people are about now than what they did six months ago."

Mr Howard said he faced a dilemma in signalling to the Australian public that there was a specific terror threat but denied he was playing politics.

Terrorism expert Clive Williams said yesterday the fact the threat level had not been changed to "high" meant an immediate attack was unlikely.

"Otherwise the threat level would change," Mr Williams said.
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Europe
Dutch PM won't speculate on 'Verdonk attack'
It is too early to conclude an attack was carried out on Minister Rita Verdonk, Prime Minister Jan Peter Balkenende said on Friday.

Speaking at the Cabinet's weekly press conference, Balkenende confirmed a "bullet trace" was found when experts examined the window of the Justice ministry office used by Immigration Minister Rita Verdonk.

She was not in the office in The Hague at the time. And it is unclear when the incident actually occurred. Whether the damage to the window was accidental or intentional is under investigation, the Prime Minister said.

A short time later Balkenende changed his description from a "bullet" to a "projectile" hitting the window in

a "serious incident".

Balkenende then echoed a comment by Economic Affairs Minister Laurens Jan Brinkhorst who said earlier on Friday: "Evidently and regrettably, elements are walking around who do not know what democracy is".

It appears from this remark that Brinkhorst does not believe the damage to the window was an accident or the result of horseplay.

Weapons experts attached to the Defence Ministry think a shot was fired at the office from a nearby building, RTL Nieuws reported on Thursday evening.

RTL claimed that as a result of the incident, Verdonk wore a bullet-proof vest when she attended a commemoration for filmmaker Theo van Gogh on Wednesday. Muslim extremist Mohammed B. was jailed for life in July for murdering Van Gogh in Amsterdam on 2 November 2004.

Posted by: lotp || 11/04/2005 19:53 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Yes those elements are called islamofascists or pissed off Dutchmen. Take your pick.
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 11/04/2005 21:59 Comments || Top||


AFP: French government powerless in face of spreading riots
Gangs of youths again stoned police and set cars ablaze as France's worst rioting in more than a decade raged for its eighth straight night, sparking fears that racial and social divisions were fuelling growing violence.

In a worrying sign, the rampages that have gripped the poorer immigrant-populated outskirts of Paris since October 27 spread, for the first time, to other parts of the country, to Dijon, Marseille and Normandy, and inside the capital itself.

They have also taken on an increasingly dangerous tone, with buckshot fired at riot squad vans -- and prosecutors revealing that a handicapped woman was deliberately set on fire the night before.

According to prosecutors Friday, the 56-year-old woman was unable to get off a bus targeted by a Molotov cocktail late Wednesday in the northern Paris suburb of Sevran. She was allegedly doused with petrol by one youth, then others threw a flaming rag on her. Rescued by the driver, she was taken to hospital with severe burns to 20 percent of her body. A fireman was also being treated for burns to his face received from a Molotov cocktail thrown earlier in the week.

Overnight Thursday, more than 500 vehicles and several businesses were set on fire, and 78 people arrested in the Paris area, according to police. Most of the arson happened in the low-income neighbourhoods that lie well outside the city, far from its famous monuments and tourist sights, although seven cars were also burnt in poorer northern and eastern districts in central Paris.

The violence has badly rattled the government of president Jacques Chirac, which is wavering between the 'zero tolerance' policies of the hardline interior minister Nicolas Sarkozy and calls for a more conciliatory approach to take account of the rioters' grievances.

More than 1,300 police were deployed in a vain attempt to restore order around the city, following a vow from prime minister Dominique de Villepin that "I will not allow organised gangs to make the law in the suburbs."

Marine Le Pen, daughter of extreme-right politician Jean-Marie Le Pen and deputy leader of his National Front party, called for a state of emergency to be declared in the worst-hit areas.

The rioting -- sparked last week by the accidental deaths by electrocution of two youths who hid in an electrical sub-station in the northeast neighbourhood of Clichy-sous-Bois to escape a police identity check -- is the worst France has seen since the first troubles broke out in deprived high-immigration neighbourhoods in the late 1980s.

Those responsible are groups of young Muslim men, the sons of families from France's former Arab and African colonial territories, who have said in interviews that they are protesting economic misery, racial discrimination and provocative policing.

Arsonists set fire to five businesses in the Seine-Saint-Denis region north and east of Paris city centre, completely destroying a large warehouse containing carpets and flooring material at the Garonord industrial zone near Charles de Gaulle airport.

At Trappes to the southwest of Paris a spectacular fire gutted a bus depot, with 27 vehicles inside destroyed. Witnesses told Europe 1 radio that flames shot 50 meters into the air with repeated explosions.

Five officers were lightly hurt by flying objects as rioters once again stoned police and fire services in several neighbourhoods, and at Neuilly-sur-Marne to the east of Paris buckshot was fired at vans belonging to the CRS riot squad. Police said that though the number of car-burnings was higher than the previous night, clashes with rioters were fewer.

Speaking on French television late Thursday, Sarkozy said the violence was being orchestrated by unknown organisers. "What we have been witnessing ... has nothing spontaneous about it. It was perfectly organised. We are trying to find out by who and how," he said.

The minister -- who has ambitions to become president after elections in 2007 -- also rejected accusations that his tough rhetoric had fuelled the rioters' anger. He has described delinquent suburban youth as "racaille" or rabble, and said crime-ridden areas need to be "cleaned with a power-hose."

Paris mayor Bertrand Delanoë of the opposition Socialist Party warned on Europe 1 against hasty conclusions being made "between one religion, Islam, and a few extremists" and the range of criminal networks in the down-trodden suburbs.

Small-scale suburban violence is a regular but unreported fact of life in many poor areas on the outskirts of major French cities. According to the police intelligence service, a total of 28,000 cars were burned across the country this year -- even before the latest outbreak

That is 77 cars a day burned in a country of 26 million people ... in 'ordinary' violence. Meanwhile, more French who ARE employed will go out on strike shortly.


Posted by: lotp || 11/04/2005 19:38 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  JFM, stay safe!
Posted by: 2b || 11/04/2005 19:53 Comments || Top||

#2  Has anyone heard how the woman who was burnt is doing?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 11/04/2005 20:53 Comments || Top||

#3  it was 20% burns so she should survive til her muslim husband throws acid on her for dishonoring the family name
Posted by: Frank G || 11/04/2005 20:58 Comments || Top||

#4  Umm... the French are pathetic.
Posted by: bgrebel9 || 11/04/2005 21:01 Comments || Top||

#5  France is doomed.
Time to lock and load England and Denmark. No mercy, because they will show none for you.
Posted by: mmurray821 || 11/04/2005 22:45 Comments || Top||

#6  Nothing they could do? Deploy armed troops with 'shoot-to-kill' orders. Kill 50 or so. Round them up. Start deporting them. Hardcore.
Posted by: Brett || 11/04/2005 22:50 Comments || Top||


US State Dept issues travel warning...for Paris
Russia and Portugal, too.


Public Announcement - France - Rioting in City Suburbs - Nov. 4, 2005
Significant rioting that began in the northern suburbs of Paris Oct. 27 has become extremely violent, as angry protesters set fire to several buildings and hundreds of vehicles. Although the riots have occurred in areas not normally frequented by U.S. tourists, travelers should be aware that train travel from the Charles de Gaulle Airport to the city center may be disrupted at times, as it passes near the affected area. Travelers could rely instead on airport buses or taxis to downtown Paris. Americans should avoid the affected areas that include the northern suburbs of Seine-Saint-Denis, (Clichy-sous-Bois, Aulnay-sous-Bois and Le Blanc-Mesnil) and also Trappes in the southwest of Paris), and should move quickly away from any demonstrations that they may encounter.

According to news reports, on November 3 the riots moved beyond Paris for the first time with reports of disorder in Dijon in eastern France, Marseilles in the south, and Normandy in the northwest. Travelers should be alert to news media reports for the most up-to-date information.

For the latest security information, Americans living and traveling abroad should regularly monitor the Department’s Bureau of Consular Affairs Internet web site at http://travel.state.gov, where the current Worldwide Caution, Public Announcements, and Travel Warnings can be found. Up-to-date information on security can also be obtained by calling 1-888-407-4747 toll free in the U.S., or, for callers outside the U.S. and Canada, a regular toll line at 1-317-472-2328. These numbers are available from 8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Eastern Time, Monday through Friday (except U.S. federal holidays).

Travelers in France who need assistance can contact the U.S. Embassy at 01-4312-2222, or by email at: citizeninfo@state.gov. The Consular Section of the U.S. Embassy in Paris is located at 2 Rue St. Florentin, 75001 Paris (Place de La Concorde, Metro Stop Concorde), tel. 011-33-1-43-12-22-22 or (in France) 01-43-12-22-22; fax 011-33-1-42-61-61-40. Further information can be obtained at the U.S. Embassy's web site at http://france.usembassy.gov.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/04/2005 19:03 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This will help tourism.
Posted by: Shinetle Hupeger8548 || 11/04/2005 19:31 Comments || Top||

#2  Le Turd World comes to Gay Paree. I have been around riots (Berkeley '66 through '70), Belfast and Derry, Northern Ireland. It is a nasty and ugly business. I do not wish them on anyone. Unfortunately, the French govt is reaping what they sowed decades ago. Playing catchup during an insurrection is a tall order. Good luck, heh.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 11/04/2005 19:46 Comments || Top||

#3  perhaps Lance will not be able to defend his title next year. Bike-racing seen as frivolous satanical acts by the new regime
Posted by: Frank G || 11/04/2005 20:08 Comments || Top||


The Friday Night Fights - Paris
Bands of Muslim youths roaming Parisian suburbs burned more than 500 vehicles and hurled stones at police Friday, as the worst rioting in a decade entered its second week and spread elsewhere in France. The U.S. warned Americans against taking trains to the airport via strife-torn areas. With the unrest growing beyond the French capital, gangs burned five cars in the eastern city of Dijon and 11 in the southern city of Marseille. Violence continued into the evening for the ninth night in a row with troublemakers firing bullets into a vandalized bus and setting a warehouse ablaze in the Paris area. In Meaux, east of Paris, police said youths prevented firefighters from evacuating a sick person from an apartment building, pelting them with stones and torching the awaiting ambulance. Some 30 mayors from the Seine-Saint-Denis region where the unrest started Oct. 27 met Friday to make a joint call for calm. Claude Pernes, mayor of Rosny-sous-Bois, denounced a "veritable guerrilla situation, urban insurrection" that has taken hold. A national police spokesman, Patrick Hamon, said there appeared to be no coordination among gangs in different areas. But he said youths in individual neighborhoods were communicating by cell phone text messages or e-mails — arranging meetings and warning each other about police operations.
Posted by: Ulang Thush1299 || 11/04/2005 18:45 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  wow..they used the "M" word.
Posted by: 2b || 11/04/2005 19:40 Comments || Top||

#2  I believe they may soon arrive at a viable French solution, is it not called de'portation?
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/04/2005 20:19 Comments || Top||

#3  Marseille?

oh....wait, I get it....
Posted by: Frank G || 11/04/2005 20:21 Comments || Top||

#4  Some 30 mayors...met Friday to make a joint call for calm.

A call for "swift and overwhelming police action to restore order" would be more effective and appropriate. I suppose the light dawns slowly in France.
Posted by: Baba Tutu || 11/04/2005 23:57 Comments || Top||


Why Paris is burning
By AMIR TAHERI Fri Nov 4, 6:00 AM ET

AS THE night falls, the "troubles" start — and the pattern is always the same.

Bands of youths in balaclavas start by setting fire to parked cars, break shop windows with baseball bats, wreck public telephones and ransack cinemas, libraries and schools. When the police arrive on the scene, the rioters attack them with stones, knives and baseball bats.

The police respond by firing tear-gas grenades and, on occasions, blank shots in the air. Sometimes the youths fire back — with real bullets.

These scenes are not from the West Bank but from 20 French cities, mostly close to Paris, that have been plunged into a European version of the intifada that at the time of writing appears beyond control.

The troubles first began in Clichy-sous-Bois, an underprivileged suburb east of Paris, a week ago. France's bombastic interior minister, Nicholas Sarkozy, responded by sending over 400 heavily armed policemen to "impose the laws of the republic," and promised to crush "the louts and hooligans" within the day. Within a few days, however, it had dawned on anyone who wanted to know that this was no "outburst by criminal elements" that could be handled with a mixture of braggadocio and batons.

By Monday, everyone in Paris was speaking of "an unprecedented crisis." Both Sarkozy and his boss, Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin, had to cancel foreign trips to deal with the riots.

How did it all start? The accepted account is that sometime last week, a group of young boys in Clichy engaged in one of their favorite sports: stealing parts of parked cars.

Normally, nothing dramatic would have happened, as the police have not been present in that suburb for years.

The problem came when one of the inhabitants, a female busybody, telephoned the police and reported the thieving spree taking place just opposite her building. The police were thus obliged to do something — which meant entering a city that, as noted, had been a no-go area for them.

Once the police arrived on the scene, the youths — who had been reigning over Clichy pretty unmolested for years — got really angry. A brief chase took place in the street, and two of the youths, who were not actually chased by the police, sought refuge in a cordoned-off area housing a power pylon. Both were electrocuted.

Once news of their deaths was out, Clichy was all up in arms.

With cries of "God is great," bands of youths armed with whatever they could get hold of went on a rampage and forced the police to flee.

The French authorities could not allow a band of youths to expel the police from French territory. So they hit back — sending in Special Forces, known as the CRS, with armored cars and tough rules of engagement.

Within hours, the original cause of the incidents was forgotten and the issue jelled around a demand by the representatives of the rioters that the French police leave the "occupied territories." By midweek, the riots had spread to three of the provinces neighboring Paris, with a population of 5.5 million.

But who lives in the affected areas? In Clichy itself, more than 80 percent of the inhabitants are Muslim immigrants or their children, mostly from Arab and black Africa. In other affected towns, the Muslim immigrant community accounts for 30 percent to 60 percent of the population. But these are not the only figures that matter. Average unemployment in the affected areas is estimated at around 30 percent and, when it comes to young would-be workers, reaches 60 percent.

In these suburban towns, built in the 1950s in imitation of the Soviet social housing of the Stalinist era, people live in crammed conditions, sometimes several generations in a tiny apartment, and see "real French life" only on television.

The French used to flatter themselves for the success of their policy of assimilation, which was supposed to turn immigrants from any background into "proper Frenchmen" within a generation at most.

That policy worked as long as immigrants came to France in drips and drops and thus could merge into a much larger mainstream. Assimilation, however, cannot work when in most schools in the affected areas, fewer than 20 percent of the pupils are native French speakers.

France has also lost another powerful mechanism for assimilation: the obligatory military service abolished in the 1990s.

As the number of immigrants and their descendants increases in a particular locality, more and more of its native French inhabitants leave for "calmer places," thus making assimilation still more difficult.

In some areas, it is possible for an immigrant or his descendants to spend a whole life without ever encountering the need to speak French, let alone familiarize himself with any aspect of the famous French culture.

The result is often alienation. And that, in turn, gives radical Islamists an opportunity to propagate their message of religious and cultural apartheid.

Some are even calling for the areas where Muslims form a majority of the population to be reorganized on the basis of the "millet" system of the Ottoman Empire: Each religious community (millet) would enjoy the right to organize its social, cultural and educational life in accordance with its religious beliefs.

In parts of France, a de facto millet system is already in place. In these areas, all women are obliged to wear the standardized Islamist "hijab" while most men grow their beards to the length prescribed by the sheiks.

The radicals have managed to chase away French shopkeepers selling alcohol and pork products, forced "places of sin," such as dancing halls, cinemas and theaters, to close down, and seized control of much of the local administration.

A reporter who spent last weekend in Clichy and its neighboring towns of Bondy, Aulnay-sous-Bois and Bobigny heard a single overarching message: The French authorities should keep out.

"All we demand is to be left alone," said Mouloud Dahmani, one of the local "emirs" engaged in negotiations to persuade the French to withdraw the police and allow a committee of sheiks, mostly from the Muslim Brotherhood, to negotiate an end to the hostilities.

President Jacques Chirac and Premier de Villepin are especially sore because they had believed that their opposition to the toppling of
Saddam Hussein in 2003 would give France a heroic image in the Muslim community.

That illusion has now been shattered — and the Chirac administration, already passing through a deepening political crisis, appears to be clueless about how to cope with what the Parisian daily France Soir has called a "ticking time bomb."

It is now clear that a good portion of France's Muslims not only refuse to assimilate into "the superior French culture," but firmly believe that Islam offers the highest forms of life to which all mankind should aspire.

So what is the solution? One solution, offered by Gilles Kepel, an adviser to Chirac on Islamic affairs, is the creation of "a new Andalusia" in which Christians and Muslims would live side by side and cooperate to create a new cultural synthesis.

The problem with Kepel's vision, however, is that it does not address the important issue of political power. Who will rule this new Andalusia: Muslims or the largely secularist Frenchmen?

Suddenly, French politics has become worth watching again, even though for the wrong reasons.

Amir Taheri, editor of the French quarterly "Politique internationale," is a member of Benador Associates.
Posted by: john || 11/04/2005 14:24 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Is Paris Burning?

One of the more interesting casting choices by the producers : Kirk Douglas as General Patton.
Posted by: BigEd || 11/04/2005 15:14 Comments || Top||

#2  Chirac will hoist the white flag in 5...4....3....
Posted by: usmc6743 || 11/04/2005 15:42 Comments || Top||

#3  This could easily happen in Bradford or Birmingham in the uk, the difference being, Tony Blair knows the score with the muzzies and would send in the army.
Posted by: General Bulge || 11/04/2005 15:47 Comments || Top||

#4  Right oh Brigadier! Monty went to France to bail them out, before it's over, he might be asked to come again!
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/04/2005 15:52 Comments || Top||

#5  ....a committee of sheiks, mostly from the Muslim Brotherhood, to negotiate an end to the hostilities.

But of course they are.

President Jacques Chirac and Premier de Villepin are especially sore because they had believed that their opposition to the toppling of Saddam Hussein in 2003 would give France a heroic image in the Muslim community.

Certainly; if your definition of "heroic image" is "ripe for the taking."
Posted by: Secret Master || 11/04/2005 15:59 Comments || Top||

#6  While it certainly appears that the French government are trying to work out the most nuanced plan of surrender, I'm clinging to the hope that they're actually playing for time and mobilising their troops for the mother of all crackdowns, whilst simultaneously negotiating with the US about the possibility of exporting a few million guest workers to Iraq.
Posted by: TerminalDecline || 11/04/2005 16:28 Comments || Top||

#7  They need a Muslim Jesse Jackson to broker the peace.

*snicker!*

Posted by: PlanetDan || 11/04/2005 16:32 Comments || Top||

#8  Is Paris Burning?

I really don't care ... burn it all to the ground!
Posted by: Uleating Wheagum6743 || 11/04/2005 17:42 Comments || Top||

#9  8 nights = full blown insurrection.
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 11/04/2005 17:51 Comments || Top||

#10  The creation of Islamic enclaves in any western city/country is a bad idea (and we've got them in the US). As we witness this "uprising" against the "occupiers" of France (?) and Denmark (?) we see that it's only a matter of time before more Moslems adopt the political/philosophical/religious-based "ideal" of an "Islamic WORLD." All non-Moslems are aggresive "occupiers." The other point is that France and Denmark are "trial runs" regarding what, exactly, would happen in Euro countries if the Islamics start a "revolution."
Posted by: ex-lib || 11/04/2005 18:24 Comments || Top||

#11  Funny thing about gangs, when you shoot a few of the frontrunners, the whole group disperses.

Fire at will boys.

EP
Posted by: ElvisHasLeftTheBuilding || 11/04/2005 18:33 Comments || Top||

#12  Gun them down in the streets and leave their bodies to rot. It's going to take that to teach the Muzzies who's boss and to let them know they damned well better shut up and head quietly to the boats sending them back to Africa.
Posted by: mac || 11/04/2005 18:42 Comments || Top||

#13  Article: The troubles first began in Clichy-sous-Bois, an underprivileged suburb east of Paris, a week ago. France's bombastic interior minister, Nicholas Sarkozy, responded by sending over 400 heavily armed policemen to "impose the laws of the republic," and promised to crush "the louts and hooligans" within the day. Within a few days, however, it had dawned on anyone who wanted to know that this was no "outburst by criminal elements" that could be handled with a mixture of braggadocio and batons.

Batons + blanks = heavily armed? What is this guy on about? When I think of heavily-armed French police, I think of that scene from the beginning of La Femme Nikita, when sub-machine gun wielding cops take down Nikita's companions. So much for the much-vaunted repressive powers of the French state.
Posted by: Elmenter Snineque1852 || 11/04/2005 21:33 Comments || Top||

#14  Clearly Chirac needs to remove his occupying police forces from the insurgents territory. That's the only way to insure peace. He should withdraw them to the sites of the (future) Notre Dame Mosque and the Eiffel Minaret
Posted by: DMFD || 11/04/2005 22:42 Comments || Top||


ETA bombs Socialist party HQ in Basque Country
BILBAO — A bomb exploded next to the headquarters of Spain's ruling Socialist Party in Bilbao. The blast happened at about 1am on Friday.
The device, which police said might have been made from a canister of camping gas or a bottle of inflammable liquid, caused no injuries and damaged only the building's window blinds.

Police said armed Basque separatists ETA or young supporters of the outlawed group who keep up a regular campaign of street violence might have been responsible for the blast. Police suspect ETA was behind a bomb that exploded early on Thursday in the Basque seaside town of Zarautz, causing slight damage but no injuries.

The Basque terrorist organisation has killed nearly 850 people since 1968 in its campaign for an independent Basque state in northern Spain and southwestern France
Posted by: Steve || 11/04/2005 12:36 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Denmark Moslem youth riots ignored
Is there a connection between the Moslem-led youth riots in France, and the ones taking place at the same time in Denmark? The week of riots in poor neighbourhoods outside Paris, which has spread to 20 towns, has been well covered by the international media.

Not so for Århus, Denmark.

“Nothing of it has penetrated to the English-language sections of Danish media,” laments the Viking Observer. The Observer took the trouble to translate into English the following from Danish Jyllands-Posten:
“Rosenhoj Mall has several nights in a row been the scene of the worst riots in Århus for years. “This area belongs to us,” the youths proclaim. Sunday evening saw a new arson attack.

“Their words sound like a clear declaration of war on the Danish society. Police must stay out. The area belongs to immigrants.

“Four youths sit on a wall in Rosenhoj Mall Sunday afternoon, calling themselves spokesmen for the groups, that three nights in a row have ravaged and tried to burn down the restaurant and other stores.

“Around the parking lot, cars with youngsters from the immigrant community are swarming, and many are walking around, greeting each other with a sense of victory after the worst riots in Århus for years.

“Every night 30-40 youths took part, especially immigrants.

“Only two were arrested, “That was a victory.”

From the 1990s, groups and organizations formed by extremist Moslems, which present a serious threat to the Danish Jewish Community, have been active in Denmark.

In France, police have made 143 arrests during the unrest, according to Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy. Prime Minister de Villepin vowed to restore order as the violence that erupted Oct. 27 spread to at least 20 towns, manifestation of the collective frustration simmering in housing projects that are home to scores of North African immigrants.
Bands of stone-lobbing and petrol bomb armed bands of youth have thus far ignored President Jacques Chirac’s appeal for calm.

“I will not accept organized gangs making the law in some neighbourhoods, I will not accept having crime networks and drug trafficking profiting from disorder,” Villepin said at the Senate in between emergency meetings called over the riots. Government offices, a police station, a primary school and a college, a Clichy-sous-Bois fire station and a train station were among the buildings targeted by the gangs of youth. Rioters also set fire to a gym near the Les Tilleuls housing complex in the Seine-Saint-Denis region. It burned and smoldered Wednesday night as residents looked on in despair.

On Thursday, rioters fired four shots at police and firefighters but caused no injuries, said Jean-Francois Cordet, the top government official for Seine-Saint-Denis. Nine civilians were injured in other unrest and 415 cars were torched across the Paris area, French authorities have said that the riots are not spontaneous but well organized.

Threats issued by youth rioters in Denmark that “This area belongs to us,” seem to indicate the same thing. Meanwhile, the whole world may be aware that Paris is burning, but few are aware of the nightly youth riots in Århus, Denmark.
Posted by: Steve || 11/04/2005 11:24 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Its hard to feel sorry for old Europe since they are not willing to do anything about for themselves.
Posted by: Yosemite Sam || 11/04/2005 12:06 Comments || Top||

#2  well of course theyre ignored - who cares about ahrus, when Paris is burning? Now if they get a death, that'll push them ahead of Paris.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 11/04/2005 12:08 Comments || Top||

#3  sorry? I'm taking bets on how vicious the crackdown will be once Europe rouses itself. For a continent that prides itself on culture and civilized behavior, Europe is as capable as any of barbaric behavior when finally backed to teh wall. Caliphate Islam is looking for a new world war of religions, cultures, I believe the Euro-smackdown will be the accelerant
Posted by: Frank G || 11/04/2005 12:12 Comments || Top||

#4  Threats issued by youth rioters in Denmark that “This area belongs to us,”

I can just see Ariel Sharon down at Shikmim feeding his cattle saying...KEN KEN!
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/04/2005 12:13 Comments || Top||

#5  I don't know Frank. Up until today, I was thinking that myself, but I'm beginning to wonder now. 30 to 40 youths? That should take less than two hours to clean up.

This is starting to remind me of Turkey, when everyone kept saying "any day now they will act". And then nothing happens. If something doesn't happen soon then ...... well heck....I just don't know what to think.
Posted by: 2b || 11/04/2005 12:19 Comments || Top||

#6  I hope Americans don't get smug about this. This could easily be a problem here. Especially since it may be Orchestrated. Syria Possibly
Posted by: plainslow || 11/04/2005 12:54 Comments || Top||

#7  Just because we express concern without being able to suppress the smile does not mean we are smug....it's just sometimes difficult to deal with conflicting emotions.

We understand the danger
Posted by: Kelly || 11/04/2005 14:01 Comments || Top||

#8  White crosses on foreign, places like Colleville Sur Mer, kinda takes the "smug" outta most of us.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/04/2005 14:31 Comments || Top||

#9  I believe it was Lileks who said it best:

"We traveled as freight in cargo ships to move here from Europe. We go back to sightsee in luxurious cruise ships. And sometimes in Higgins boats to clean up their messes."
Posted by: Steve || 11/04/2005 16:00 Comments || Top||

#10  Muzzies rioting in my neighborhood would have been performing their last living acts on earth. Between the shotguns and the rifles, massive lead poisoning would be a dead mortal cinch.
Posted by: mac || 11/04/2005 18:48 Comments || Top||

#11  a molotov, once lit, nicely illuminates the target. Extra points for shooting the bottle, spreading the fuel/flames to the "yout"
Posted by: Frank G || 11/04/2005 19:43 Comments || Top||

#12  No here the cops will shoot the rioters plainslow. This would not go on for 8 nights. It might go on for one. Then you would be hearing from th epress how the Police and National Guard and aremd local citizens "over reacted" but the 'riot' would be over.
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 11/04/2005 22:13 Comments || Top||


Muslim Mob Lions Burn Down Handicapped Infidel
A handicapped woman was doused with petrol and set on fire by youths during another night of rioting in Paris. The 56-year-old suffered third degree burns to 20% of her body in the attack.

Witnesses said a youth poured petrol over the woman and then threw a Molotov cocktail on to the bus she was travelling on in the suburb of Sevran. Other passengers were able to flee but she was unable to escape because of her disabilities. It was the worst incident so far in more than a week of rioting.

For the first time, there were also signs of copycat rampages elsewhere in France. Police said several cars in the eastern city of Dijon were set alight, while similar attacks took place in the western Seine-Maritime region and the Bouches-du-Rhone in the south of the country. More than 160 cars were reportedly torched in the Paris region, as well as 33 in the provinces.

But police said the night seemed calmer than the one before, when 315 vehicles were burnt in the Ile-de-France region around the capital.
No doubt they danced in glee around the bus.
Posted by: KBK || 11/04/2005 10:57 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Fuck it. Start shooting the bastards.
Posted by: Howard UK || 11/04/2005 11:21 Comments || Top||

#2  The article doesn't disclose who did this, except to call them 'troubled' 'youths'. Must have been those vile coffee-drinking student types.
Posted by: KBK || 11/04/2005 11:33 Comments || Top||

#3  Get the FRENCH FOREIGN LEGION in and this sh*t will stop in a heartbeat.
Posted by: ARMYGUY || 11/04/2005 11:39 Comments || Top||

#4  sickenin. >:(
Posted by: muck4doo || 11/04/2005 11:54 Comments || Top||

#5  An entire bus full of people, and nobody thought to stop a moment and drag that poor woman with them? Shame!
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/04/2005 12:19 Comments || Top||

#6  But police said the night seemed calmer than the one before, when 315 vehicles were burnt in the Ile-de-France region around the capital.

The ultimate spin. Gotta be some room in the DNC for a few French police spokesmen.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/04/2005 12:29 Comments || Top||

#7  Just like Belsan, the chattering classes will cover their ears and eyes and resume discussing the intolerant knuckle-dragging red-stater's inability to understand the root causes (America and the Jews) that caused this "unfortunate", event.
Posted by: 2b || 11/04/2005 12:42 Comments || Top||

#8  An entire bus full of people, and nobody thought to stop a moment and drag that poor woman with them?

There's a government agency for that in France.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/04/2005 12:59 Comments || Top||

#9  They're out on strike Steve.
Posted by: Howard UK || 11/04/2005 13:16 Comments || Top||

#10  Make nice Chirac, and we may sell you a MOAB. One of those babies, and an example will be made.
Posted by: BigEd || 11/04/2005 14:00 Comments || Top||

#11  Let Paris Burn.
Posted by: Hyper || 11/04/2005 15:13 Comments || Top||

#12  I'd read elsewhere that the bus was emptying out per the driver's orders because the street ahead was blocked by flaming debris. Then the punks outside apparently decided they had an easy victim when she hobbled out.

It will probably take at least one death for the government to get serious about dealing with this finally. I am surprised it hasn't happened already.
Posted by: Dar || 11/04/2005 15:25 Comments || Top||

#13  The disabled woman was a Muslim. The key word there is "woman" rather than "Muslim" I think.
Posted by: TerminalDecline || 11/04/2005 16:23 Comments || Top||

#14  I seem to remember Americans helping a woman in a wheelchair escape the World Trade Center during the 9/11 attacks.
Posted by: Dark Wing Duck || 11/04/2005 20:53 Comments || Top||


Frankistan Intifada Gains Dangerous Momentum
AULNAY-SOUS-BOIS, France (AP) - A week of riots in poor neighborhoods outside Paris gained dangerous new momentum Thursday, with youths shooting at police and firefighters and attacking trains and symbols of the French state.

Facing mounting criticism, Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin along with his brother Margaret vowed to restore order as the violence that erupted Oct. 27 spread to at least 20 towns, highlighting the mounting terrorist activity frustration simmering in housing projects that are home to many North African immigrants.

Unrest flared for an eighth straight night Thursday, though scaled down from previous says. Young men fire buckshot at riot police vehicles in Neuilly-sur-Marne, while a group of 30 to 40 harassed police near a synagogue further east in Stains, said the top official of Seine-Saint-Denis, Prefect Jean-Francois Cordet.
Guess it's too much to ask the police to harass them back.
A special Interior Ministry operations center monitoring the violence said some 60 vehicles torched in the Seine-Saint-Denis region by early Friday and a total of 165 throughout the Paris metropolitan area. Some 40 vehicles were torched in the Val d'Oise area northwest of Paris.

The sporadic incidents were less intense that the ferocious rioting that erupted eight days ago in Clichy-sous-Bois and spread across the troubled area of housing projects marked by soaring islamofascist gatherings unemployment, hooliganism delinquency and a sense of impending victory over the infidels despair.

``I will not accept organized gangs making the law in some neighborhoods. I will not accept having crime networks and drug trafficking profiting from disorder,'' Villepin who is a man said at the Senate in between emergency meetings called over the riots.

The unrest cast a cloud over the end of Ramadan, the Muslim holy month. In Clichy-sous-Bois - heart of the rioting - men filled the Bilal mosque for evening prayers, but streets were subdued with shops shutting early. ``Look around you. How do you think we can celebrate?'' said Abdallah Hammo as he closed the tea house where he works.
"I mean, we haven't won yet!" he added.
AoS 14:50 -- spelling error in title corrected.
Posted by: Steve White || 11/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  When the mosques empty tonight all hell will break loose again. It's the muslim way. Fridays are holy riot days.
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 11/04/2005 0:28 Comments || Top||

#2  I presume, given the tone, alG thinks the French should throw money at them to relieve their "simmering frustration".

"I will not accept organized gangs making the law in some neighborhoods. I will not accept having crime networks and drug trafficking profiting from disorder"

Et je certainement ne prends pas l'American Express.
- de Villepin (a man, by some accounts)
Posted by: Regnad Kcin || 11/04/2005 0:34 Comments || Top||

#3  The unrest cast a cloud over the end of Ramadan, the Muslim holy month

Next up: rampaging Christians on Christmas.
Posted by: Rafael || 11/04/2005 0:44 Comments || Top||

#4  "Frankistan Intifada" is freakin hilarious.

Dominique de Villepin, who is a man, has not said it yet but I assume these riots are because of the humiliation muslims have endured over the US occupation of Iraq. That's why they're rioting in Mosul and Baghdad right now too, correct?
Posted by: JAB || 11/04/2005 1:09 Comments || Top||

#5  The unrest cast a cloud over the end of Ramadan, the Muslim holy month

Rafael: Next up: rampaging Christians on Christmas.

btw, how can something blacker than a black hole Muslim holy month have a cloud cast over it?
Posted by: Red Dog || 11/04/2005 4:03 Comments || Top||

#6  Already it seems to have spread to other towns in the south and west of France, so tonight could be the night to bring in the CRS... Or not.
Posted by: Ulurong Chavimp3400 || 11/04/2005 4:59 Comments || Top||

#7  Popcorn?
Posted by: Rafael || 11/04/2005 5:07 Comments || Top||

#8  A police union official proposed establishing a curfew and bringing in the military to help handle the rioting, while some members of the opposition Socialist Party have suggested the police should withdraw from the communities to quell the unrest.

Speaking to parliament Wednesday, de Villepin demanded punishment for lawbreakers but used calmer language than that used by Sarkozy...
"Let's avoid stigmatizing areas .... let's treat petty crime differently to major crime, let's fight all discrimination with firmness, and avoid confusing a disruptive minority with the vast majority of youngsters who want to integrate into society and succeed," he said.

Jean-Louis Borloo, minister for social cohesion, said officials need to react "firmly" to the unrest but that France also must acknowledge its failure to deal with decades of simmering anger in the impoverished suburbs of Paris. "We cannot hide the truth: that for 30 years we have not done enough," he told France-2 television, AP reported.

Borloo also urged people not to have a one-sided view of the suburbs. "One must not think for one second that this is the life of these neighborhoods," Reuters quoted him as saying. "They are an integral part of our country. It is in these neighborhoods that most companies are being founded." CNN


Screw the popcorn. This calls for a BBQ. Fire up the grill. Bring the beer. This could take a while.
Posted by: Rafael || 11/04/2005 5:22 Comments || Top||

#9  Jean-Louis Borloo, minister for social cohesion

I know it's mean, but I can't stop laughing. Have you tried Krazy glue?
Posted by: Rafael || 11/04/2005 5:34 Comments || Top||

#10  darn, I picked a bad week for a diet. But perhaps this signifies that Chirac is willing to bow before his masters and cough up the appea$$ement money so that the clerics will now tell their soldiers to stand down.

Got any lo-car beer? Raphael
Posted by: 2b || 11/04/2005 5:36 Comments || Top||

#11  Napoleon was wise enough to have the crooked streets of Paris straightened for just such an occasion as now. "A whiff of grape will stop a mob."

It would be almost funny were it not that we are seeing the beginnings of the reaping of the whirlwind liberal-socialist societies like France have produced. This will cause immeasurable damage to Europe before these scum are made to take their "dirt naps" wrapped in the pigskins they well deserve. How sad that all the men in France died in the Great War.
Posted by: OldMarine || 11/04/2005 5:37 Comments || Top||

#12  "But perhaps this signifies that Chirac is willing to bow before his masters and cough up the appea$$ement money so that the clerics will now tell their soldiers to stand down."

No can do - the imams have already tried this, and got pelted with rocks for their efforts. It seems as if this will end only when the rioters decide they've had enough.
Posted by: Ulurong Chavimp3400 || 11/04/2005 5:42 Comments || Top||

#13  Ah, to heck with the diet. What's on the barbie?
Posted by: 2b || 11/04/2005 5:44 Comments || Top||

#14  No, I see something else coming, and soon. I don't think the French are going to let this go on much longer. I think the rioters are going to get that "whiff of the grape" and a bit more. There are going to be lots of dead Muzzy bodies in the streets, even more in the jails, and a hell of a lot more on boats back to the Maghreb and it's going to start soon. The French are often rude and arrogant--now they're going to display those qualities to the Muzzy scum rioting in the streets. This is just the opening act in an expulsion play that's been advertised for a long time now.
Posted by: mac || 11/04/2005 5:47 Comments || Top||

#15  If they don't act decisively, soon, it will likely spread to other countries. You know there are millions of the same sort watching. Closely.
Posted by: .com || 11/04/2005 5:59 Comments || Top||

#16  yikes, .com. You are right about that. This is like watching a gasoline truck and a cement truck careening toward each other in slow motion. Still a chance they might miss, but if they dont....
Posted by: 2b || 11/04/2005 6:03 Comments || Top||

#17  I hope you're right, the French people deserve better than this. After all, they pay enough in taxes...
Posted by: Ulurong Chavimp3400 || 11/04/2005 6:13 Comments || Top||

#18  The French people might have enough spine to deal with this, but the French elites don't. As long as the elites stay in charge, France is on a one way trip to Hell. Charles Martel is spinning in his grave. There is no modern day Roland.
Posted by: RWV || 11/04/2005 6:21 Comments || Top||

#19  .com - very perceptive. I live right on the fringe of one such community in London - old run-down high-rise estate - what you'd prob call projects? - It's chock-full of Somalis and North Africans and completely no go for whites. A real powder keg in the making. My area is affluent and largely white British in demographic terms. When the UK economy falters as it surely must TSWHTF on a large scale here. Some native locals have already formed vigilante squads in the face of the petty crime these communities have brought with them.
Posted by: Howard UK || 11/04/2005 6:41 Comments || Top||

#20  be careful Howard! Here's to hoping that your weekend is boring.
Posted by: 2b || 11/04/2005 6:45 Comments || Top||

#21  Amen, 2b.

Howard - You have a no-go zone next door? I don't like the sound of that at all. Howard, my friend, is your passport current? You need to come for a visit - a long extended visit. Many beautiful places here, and though you may not feel at home for awhile, you'd certainly be welcome. :)
Posted by: .com || 11/04/2005 6:50 Comments || Top||

#22  Just don't move to Dearborn...
Posted by: Darrell || 11/04/2005 7:08 Comments || Top||

#23  Dearborn is ringed by armed suburbs...
Posted by: tusaus || 11/04/2005 7:38 Comments || Top||

#24  I fear you're all missing the point : all in all, this is relatively "minor", no death so far (of course having for example 27 bus, 400 cars and 3 warehouses torched in one night isn't exactly "minor), this is but a surge in an ongoing, worsening situation since at least 10 years.

The *real* danger comes from the appeasement of the french authorities :
- they've caved in to the narrative of the start of this (the two youths who stoopidly electrocuted themselves hiding in an obviously dangerous place labelled as such, after running away from an ID control... note they weren't even poursued!) and if i were to joke I'd say that soon the policemen will be accused of non-assistance to endangered youths.
- the local authorities are overhelmed, and have put all their hopes into "mediators", often from religious background; this "outsourcing" of sovereignty has been a stapple of local political life in such areas for a long time (in north of France you've got the Lille mayor who protects islamists and associate with terror-related islamic charities to get social peace, in heavily isalmized Roubazix you've got an alliance between left-leaning pols and islamists,...), but this is a new step.
-in 30 months or so, there will be municipal elections, and this new arragement will not be forgotten; the islamists have flexed their muscle, and to get peace, the powers-that-be will be ready to do any concessions they will be asked to do.
-same thing in national politics; the drive toward affirmative action, funding of mosques by the State, multiculturalism,... will only go stronger (and there is no true difference between Sarkozy and "de Villepin" there, the only thing is that the firts sez what he wishes to do, while the second acts under the radar, see the "fondation de l'islam de France" or the formation of imam by the Sorbonnes university).

What you must understand is there is a continous push, a "global jihad" that is mainly cultural, and that such surges in violence are only the "stick" to the usual carrot. It's a multi-faceted strategy, a culture war where only one of the side fight, while the other caves in.

It goes straight from the street level (where street violence, antijudeochristian/antiwhite prejudice drives out "gauls" from the 'hood, allows islamic businessmen to buy cheap real estate, to replace shops by hallal businesses,... and thus create muslim-controlled areas), to the cultural level (where there is an established "antiracist" apparatus that enforces the multiculturalist, islamically correct ideololgy, complete with rewriting of school books to present a "positive side of islam" or a terrorism-friendly curruculum in which the 9/11 attacks are a "contestation of the Us hegemony", law against discrimination,...), or to the political level (power and sovereignty-sharing with the muslims).

I repeat, the USA are the main opponent of the whole "WOT", but Europe is the prize and the main target. Both sides of the pond do not face the same dangers, and the USA are much less exposed (unless the terrs get their paws on WMD).
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/04/2005 8:25 Comments || Top||

#25  In my US centered memory the closest thing to these riots in the US was the riots after King died. I seem to recall that Johnson sent Nat Guards with TANKS into the street and stuff quited down rather quickly. Now I've seen the video of the French doing much much worse recently in the Ivory Coast. Do they have the balls to be tough at home?
Posted by: 3dc || 11/04/2005 8:38 Comments || Top||

#26  Also, I'm 100% there is a concerted, organized, willful effort at subverting european societies; I'm not paranoid enough to think each and every euro muslim is part of it (though I'm paranoid enough to believe in Eurabia), but there HAS been recovered documents seized by french or swiss intelligence which show the muslim brotherhood and its affiliates ARE planning to conquer Europe using dawa, subversion (political, cultural,... using the West's own guilt, laws and institution) and demography (number is power).

Again, it is probably not one huge single conspiracy, but rather a continouus "process" enabled by an ideology (and God knows "classical" islam itself is an ideology of conquest, so imagine for the fascist-like "organic" version of the MB, or the jihadist salafism).

The USA get a taste of this through CAIR, but there is absolutely not the same abyss facing you. I mean, this is a war of conquest that is met by a deathwish!
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/04/2005 8:46 Comments || Top||

#27  To underscore 5089's point:

Recall how the French deal with protests. Remember how the trash collectors, police, transit workers, farmers, you name the group....go on strike -- how there seems to be a strike every freakin' month.

The French government and culture fuels protest, which, till now, has resulted in nothing more than inconvenience.

This is different.

The French have no effective way of understanding how to deal with this and so, I suspect, will fall back on "tried and true" methods of: appeasing, dialogue, acceptance, etc., all of which CANNOT WORK, ultimately.

And if they DO crack down, that will further inflame the rioters.

In short, there is NO way, apart from abject dhimmitude, for the French to get out from under. The rioters are feeling a newfound sense of power. And they won't give that up easily.

I suspect France's nightmare is far from over.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 11/04/2005 8:48 Comments || Top||

#28  3dc : "Do they have the balls to be tough at home?"

French cops have balls and are quite able and ready to bust heads when necessary (or fun), riots or antigang cops are quite brave given the odds they daily face... and I'm not talking about this particular surge, which is not exceptional (except in the international media coverage)
They don't have the means to cope if the situation gets out of hands, but so far, this is manageable, though.

Fact is, they aren't getting any support from the pols, now or before (there are numerous reports of police officers harassed at home by youths and forced to move out, and their hierarchy doesn't support them at all)...

So all in all, response is "NO" IMHO, but perhaps I'm overly pessimistic?
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/04/2005 8:54 Comments || Top||

#29  anonymous5089 is totally correct, though don't forget the man who was beaten to death in front of his family just before the riots started, for taking pictures of a streetlight. No memorial march for him, just the slow march to shariah law in Europe.
Posted by: TerminalDecline || 11/04/2005 8:58 Comments || Top||

#30  The comment on real estate values by A 5089 is interesting. Street crime and the occasional riot drives it down in the surrounding areas. As the Muslim population grows, they can expand the no-go areas into formerly more affluent areas by this method. Over the years, the no-go zones become mini Islamic states.
Posted by: jolly roger || 11/04/2005 8:59 Comments || Top||

#31  From the babblefish translation of the French site I see:
And for the province, of the riots in Coast-in Or, Rhone delta, Seine-Maritime, whose detail of course is classified confidential by the national media.

Anybody know anything about these riots?
Posted by: 3dc || 11/04/2005 10:01 Comments || Top||

#32  Fact is, they [police] aren't getting any support from the pols, now or before

Much like the police in LA and here in Cincinnati leading up to the riots in those cities. IMHO, failure tosupport the police is one of the factors that lead to riots -- once the slime knows you won't support your defense, they know they're free to do what they please.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 11/04/2005 10:13 Comments || Top||

#33  Is this on the MSM yet ?
Posted by: wxjames || 11/04/2005 10:32 Comments || Top||

#34  Disabled Woman Set On Fire In Riots

A handicapped woman was doused with petrol and set on fire by youths during another night of rioting in Paris.

The 56-year-old suffered third degree burns to 20% of her body in the attack.

Witnesses said a youth poured petrol over the woman and then threw a Molotov cocktail on to the bus she was travelling on in the suburb of Sevran.

Other passengers were able to flee but she was unable to escape because of her disabilities.


(via LGF. Of course, 24-hour rule, it could be a Katrina-esque rumor, etc.)

As I emailed someone at NRO yesterday, the lack of deaths in these riots is purely a matter of luck.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 11/04/2005 10:52 Comments || Top||

#35  In an alternate universe, President Kerry just invaded France to protect the motherland.
Posted by: Master of Obvious || 11/04/2005 11:06 Comments || Top||

#36  3dc : "Anybody know anything about these riots?"

No, not really; ususally they only show up in local press, they are "everyday riots" from the famed "no go zones"(Tm), probably not related at all to what happens in Seine Saint-Denis (Paris area).

From what I've read today in my usual islamophobic(also Tm) websites, the commentators say that 5 cars were torched in Dijon, there was fightings against the police in Drancy, 7 cars torched at Salon de Provence,...

Re the Paris riots, there was several very violent "incidents", including an handicaped 50 years woman which was voluntary spread with gasoline and set on fire (20% burnt 3 degree) while 200 youths ambushed a bus, dozens of cars burnt in broad daylight on asupermarket parking,...

Note that the "youths" in the Paris riots are using cellphones and internet, especially the "skyblogs" comments (blogs hosted by the rap radio Skyrock, think what you would get if Mtv hosted blogs for its viewers... and some of which are a perfect illustration of the anti-french gangsta rap subculture, and I mean "sub", given the "french they are using) to coordonate and emulate themselves, there was a very interesting "Figaro" article on that, complete with french traduction of gangsta talk.

See at http://www.skyblog.com/ and search for islam, Algérie, Maroc, rap,..., you'll get a glimpse of the cités subculture, which is not obligatory a criminal one btw, though "gangsta rap" certainly is an heavy influence, but often is a counterculture to "french" one, based on the country of origin, islam,...
http://nasser93.skyblog.com/
http://bamakosoldat.skyblog.com/
http://annabi67200.skyblog.com/index.html
http://naram.skyblog.com/index.html
http://bad-boy-93.skyblog.com/
http://blog-hardkore.skyblog.com/index.html
http://ralf-93.skyblog.com/
http://linda-du-93.skyblog.com/
...
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/04/2005 11:33 Comments || Top||

#37  1. no go areas = theres no go areas, and then theres no go areas. There used to be plenty of areas in US cities where a white civilian wouldnt go, and there are still some. But I dont think there were ever any areas where the police wouldnt go. Whats shocking is the extent to which the police had completely abandoned the banlieus, even before this started. Whats the situation in the UK, Howard?

2. French action - I think there are two drives here - the division between DeVillepin and Sarkosy, and the fact that there hasnt been a death yet (though they came pretty close with that handicapped woman) I think they still think it will "burn out" and are afraid to make it worse - I think DeVill is all set to blame it all on Sarkosy - of course IF it turns out that Sarkosy was advocating going in hard early, and they didnt cause of Devill, and it gets out of hand, then DeVill is history. OTOH if they go in, at Sarkosys urging, and it then gets out of hand, Sarkosy is history. And France probably gets a Socialist govt in short order, which no one in the ruling party wants.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 11/04/2005 12:30 Comments || Top||

#38  Thirty months to the next election? By then your nephew will be old enough to travel well, anonymous5089. Please seriously consider packing up your whole family and bringing them to this side of the pond. If they want to live in a more familiar environment, New Orleans and Quebec both could use hard working Frenchmen like y'all. Or the Cincinnati suburb of Montgomery, which is twinned to a French town (I don't remember which one, I'm afraid), and has a lovely 14.July celebration every year.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/04/2005 12:31 Comments || Top||

#39  But I dont think there were ever any areas where the police wouldnt go.

That was apparently the situation in parts of New Orleans before the storm.
Posted by: Phil || 11/04/2005 12:32 Comments || Top||

#40  I sure miss the old Paris. Nothing but Cafe au lait and red wine. I hope the Mooslims don't hurt all the nice artwork. They certainly have a propensity towards breakings things that are either beautiful, historic, or just non-Mooslim.
Posted by: intrinsicpilot || 11/04/2005 12:37 Comments || Top||

#41  @ liberalhawk : good analysis, really, I do not really agree to your "social" interpretation, but you do have a clear mind.

@ Trailing wife : you're too kind; I live in french alps, just next to Switzerland, this whole mess is as foreign to me as it is to you (though I've got family in an industrial small town 40 km from here where there is a 30-40%? muslim pop, and many problems, though nothing comparable to Ile de France).
I'm fat and lazy, and a failure, I wouldn't survive in a demanding Us environment. I already said that, but when France sinks, I sink with it. Oh, well.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/04/2005 12:41 Comments || Top||

#42  But you can think for yourself, A5089. Admittedly that doesn't do you much good in La Belle France, but it works remarkably well elsewhere.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/04/2005 12:50 Comments || Top||

#43  a5089, you're thinking backwards. You are multilingual, surely well-traveled (at least in that part of Europe), you can speak intelligently on a number of topics, and are obviously family oriented. Find yourself a nice, ambitious, career woman, and become a trophy house-husband. Honestly, it's the latest thing over here! With the right woman, you could even hire someone to do the housekeeping, and let your wife do the cooking.

On the other hand, I could be pursuaded to live in the French Alps if it were absolutely necessary ;-), and you can quickly go across the border if necessary.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/04/2005 13:13 Comments || Top||

#44  intrinsicpilot: " breakings things that are either beautiful, historic, or just non-Mooslim"
The only history of importance in a land is the history after the arival of Islam, remember? Before that was just the time of ignorance, and you can't learn anything from the ignorant.

But seriously, I wish I had better information on what was really going on. The low number of deaths (0?) suggests that the really hardcore islamists (the ones smuggling the AK's around) are lying low. And so what groups are on the streets, and are they just the usual thugs? Are a lot of people trying to get out? And what is being said in the mosques?
Thanks for the pointers to skyblog.
Posted by: James || 11/04/2005 13:49 Comments || Top||

#45  I think the medical term this is CANCER (Islamosarcoma). Probably stage III right now. If the Frenchies don't come up with the fortitude to go for surgery, well lets just say I wouldn't be selling them any life insurance.
Posted by: FeralCat || 11/04/2005 13:51 Comments || Top||

#46  I think the medical term FOR this is CANCER (Islamosarcoma). Probably stage III right now. If the Frenchies don't come up with the fortitude to go for surgery, well lets just say I wouldn't be selling them any life insurance.
Posted by: FeralCat || 11/04/2005 13:54 Comments || Top||

#47  Chemotherapy?
Posted by: Cheanter Graiting1433 || 11/04/2005 13:56 Comments || Top||

#48  Debridement.
Posted by: Howard UK || 11/04/2005 14:02 Comments || Top||

#49  @ Trailing wife, Ot : yeah, a trophy spouse, that's the ticket!
Sure beats selling my kidneys, or, as I planned, renting my soft, hairless body to drunken east european truckers, on highways rest areas.

No, seriously, I AM a failure, but I'm mostly happy, I live a very comfortable live. Thanks for the thought, still ;-)!
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/04/2005 14:33 Comments || Top||

#50  Anonymous: If you can walk to the gasthaus, hear cow bells ringing in the distance, and enjoy good clean Alpinian air... you ain't no failure lad.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/04/2005 14:39 Comments || Top||

#51  A5089, By my watch it should be after dark there. Have the Friday evening festivities begun yet? What did the imams have to say at "prayer"?
Posted by: Elmoluter Florong1452 || 11/04/2005 15:24 Comments || Top||

#52  Q: Why do the side-walks of the Champs Elysees have so much tree cover?

A: Because the German Army preferred marching in the shade.

See more
Posted by: The Happy Fliegerabwehrkanonen || 11/04/2005 18:07 Comments || Top||

#53  I'm sure there's another Caligula type somewhere in Europe that will rise to power when the fear level of the locals reaches crisis level, and he/she will "take care of matters". It'll be messy, ugly, and destructive, but I don't think the Europeans will put up with this kind of behavior forever. Once they get angry enough, the muzzies will be on the losing end of the stick. The ayrabs haven't won a war, even against themselves, in 200 years. Terror is the only weapon they use successfully. Once the Europeans get to the point where they're willing to be nastier than the muzzies, it's all over. I give it two years, max, then the muzzies will get a version of hell they won't like at all.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/04/2005 21:39 Comments || Top||

#54  you can't commit teror if you're all dead
Posted by: Frank G || 11/04/2005 22:15 Comments || Top||


Great White North
Terrorists caught entering Canda from U. S.
EFL

TORONTO - Canadian counter- terrorism investigators have dismantled a suspected terrorist cell in Toronto whose members included an al-Qaeda-trained explosives expert, the National Post has learned.

The cell consisted of four Algerian refugee claimants who had lived in Canada for as long as six years and were alleged members of a radical Islamic terror faction called the Salafist Group for Call and Combat.

The central figure of the Toronto-area cell was a former al-Qaeda training camp instructor who studied bomb-making at Osama bin Laden's Al Farooq and Khaldun training camps in eastern Afghanistan.

The group was watched by intelligence officers before being broken apart in an inter-agency operation involving the Canadian Security Intelligence Service, Canada Border Services Agency and police.

A senior CSIS counterterrorism official, Larry Brooks, announced the dismantling of the cell at a closed-door national security workshop held this week at a hotel north of Toronto.

Mr. Brooks told workshop delegates that three members of the group were deported this summer and the key figure left Canada voluntarily in March, 2004, after he was confronted by investigators.

The ringleader of the Toronto cell was an Algerian-born member of the GSPC who entered Canada on Aug. 8, 1998, using a forged Saudi passport and made a refugee claim that was ultimately turned down.

Initially, CSIS began preparing a national security certificate that was to be used to deport him, but instead authorities subjected him to "confrontation interviews," a counterterrorism tactic that is sometimes used to make suspected terrorists know they are being closely watched.

The explosives expert left on his own shortly afterward on March 7, 2004, and the three others were later arrested and deported to U.S. border crossings because they had entered Canada from the United States.

The operation is the latest indication that trained terrorists, some of whom are versed in bomb-making methods and have links to bin Laden and his al-Qaeda network, have been living in Canada.

"We know that terrorists are in our own backyard," Inspector Jamie Jagoe, the officer in charge of the RCMP Integrated National Security Enforcement Team for Ontario, which co-hosted the workshop, told delegates.

During his presentation, Insp. Jagoe showed slides of several suspected terrorists who had lived in Canada, including Amer El-Maati, Abderraouf Jdey, Mahmoud Jaballah, Mohamed Mahjoub, Ressam, Mohammed Jabarah, Abdul Rahman Jabarah and Ahmed Said Khadr.
Posted by: Huputing Hupeating4484 || 11/04/2005 08:54 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  deported to U.S. border crossings

I do hope Homeland Security was there to meet them.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/04/2005 12:33 Comments || Top||

#2  deported to U.S. border crossings

Ship them to Michigan. The logistics already exist.
Posted by: Rafael || 11/04/2005 13:11 Comments || Top||

#3 
Posted by: doc || 11/04/2005 13:16 Comments || Top||

#4  We seem to learn a lot from a closed-door national security workshop held this week at a hotel north of Toronto.

I'm guessing Inspector Jamie Jagoe, the officer in charge of the RCMP Integrated National Security Enforcement Team for Ontario, which co-hosted the workshop will be conducting polar bear patrols on James Bay next week.
Posted by: john || 11/04/2005 13:35 Comments || Top||

#5  I reread the article and it is clear this story came to light to highlight embarrass GW on people crossing from US to Canada.

No discussion whatsoever on individuals entering the US from Canada.
Posted by: john || 11/04/2005 13:40 Comments || Top||


International-UN-NGOs
Annan cancels Iran trip after anti-Israel remark
I think my surprise meter wiggled.
U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan canceled his forthcoming trip to Tehran after the Iranian president's call to "wipe Israel off the map," the United Nations said on Friday. Annan had planned to visit the Iranian capital in mid-November during swing through the Middle East beginning next week, presumably to talk about Iran's nuclear policy. But since the trip was arranged, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad made the comment on October 26, drawing international condemnation.

"The secretary-general and the Iranian government have mutually agreed that this is not an appropriate time for him to travel to Iran," U.N. spokesman Stephane Dujarric said. "In light of the ongoing controversy, it would have been difficult to advance the agenda that he had wanted to discuss with the Iranian leadership," Dujarric said.

The news was first disclosed by California Rep. Tom Lantos a long-time friend of Annan and his wife, Nane, and the ranking Democrat on the House International Relations Committee. Lantos praised Annan "for postponing a trip to Iran in the wake of outrageous comments made late last week by the Iranian president that included a call to wipe another U.N. member-state 'off the map."
I think Iran figured out anothe stalling tactic to keep the int'l community at bay while they ramp up uranium enrichment...
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/04/2005 15:41 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Meaningless. Goo-fi didn't make his visit conditional upon retraction, but instead simply said that now is not an approriate time to go there to talk. Presumably, he's gonna wait until the hulabaloo dies down some....
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 11/04/2005 15:57 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm thinkin' koko thinks this iranian prez is such a whack job, he'd get an earful instead of being greeted as a senior diplomat. or worse.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 11/04/2005 16:36 Comments || Top||

#3  The poor little mullahs, they'll be crying so much they get their beards all soggy.
Posted by: Jake-the-Peg || 11/04/2005 17:50 Comments || Top||

#4  This is total crap. Ahmedjihadi made his remark before the SecTwit announced his intention to visit. It's being canceled because of the reaction to his craven stupidity. You could toss a coin, AP or Rooters, for the source of this dizzy garbage, this time it's Rooters. Assholes.
Posted by: Regnad Kcin || 11/04/2005 18:07 Comments || Top||

#5  I trust second prize involves two canceled visits by Kofi.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/04/2005 18:27 Comments || Top||

#6  Ahmadinejad said he understood, it was OK, he would just mail Kofi the check.
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 11/04/2005 18:36 Comments || Top||

#7  Loose lips sink ships.
Posted by: gromgoru || 11/04/2005 18:52 Comments || Top||

#8  I personally think Ahmadinejad is on his way to a Nobel Peace Prize.
Posted by: Ol Dirty American || 11/04/2005 19:13 Comments || Top||

#9  Even Hitler wasn't so brazen, and Annan says "Lets do lunch later"? Hitler would have loved him.
Posted by: FeralCat || 11/04/2005 19:36 Comments || Top||


Iraq
Five Al-Qaeda senior members killed in air raid
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 11/04/2005 16:24 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Baby you are all blownesed up.

""Abu Asil's job was also to train suicide attackers," the statement said."

I think he will be a much more effective teacher now that he has first hand experience in getting blown up.


Posted by: Ol Dirty American || 11/04/2005 18:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Any other confirmation?
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 11/04/2005 18:54 Comments || Top||

#3  Abu Raghd? Raghead?
Posted by: Frank G || 11/04/2005 19:07 Comments || Top||

#4  Another little bit of the Islamocarcinoma tumor removed!
Posted by: FeralCat || 11/04/2005 19:17 Comments || Top||

#5  one big blast too! Fiscally conservative, compassionate pest removal
Posted by: Frank G || 11/04/2005 19:58 Comments || Top||


5 senior al-Qaeda leaders killed in Iraq
The multinational force operating in Iraq revealed Friday that several senior officials of the Al-Qaeda terrorist organization were killed in an air raid last month.

The air raid was launched, by the multinational force, on Oct 29 against a site in the western Iraqi town of Hasseiba. Those killed included Abu Talha, one of the organization's leaders and Abu Asil, who was a North African and was a close companion to Abu Mus'aab Al-Zarqawi.

Abu Asil was also in charge of recruiting terrorists in the Middle East area.

"The multinational force has identified five senior Al-Qaeda members among the killed," a statement by the multinational force said. It added that three houses were destroyed by the air raid including one which was used as a site for the meetings of Al-Qaeda leaders.

Three other leaders were killed, including Abu Raghd, Abu Usama and Abu Salman -- all identified by their nick names.

The statement stated that Abu Asil was a foreigner who was closely associated with Abu Mus'aab. "Abu Asil's job was also to train suicide attackers," the statement said.

As for Abu Raghd, he led the foreign fighters cell and was in charge of planning and implementing attacks against the multinational force.

As for Abu Salman and Abu Usama, they were both leaders of the local Al-Qaeda branch in the Hasseiba.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/04/2005 15:41 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Has anyone noticed that most of the recent killings of multiple insurgent scumbags and Al-Qaeda operatives in Iraq has come courtesy of air power?
Posted by: The Happy Fliegerabwehrkanonen || 11/04/2005 17:25 Comments || Top||

#2  Better air delivered explosives which take less 'innocent lives'. Still want more confirmation that these are 'major' al-Queda persons.
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 11/04/2005 18:56 Comments || Top||


Clearing the Airport Road
Posted by: liberalhawk || 11/04/2005 15:24 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Amazing story you won't read anywhere else...
Posted by: baker2575 || 11/04/2005 16:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Awesome story...huge success!

The Iraqi army is indeed becoming extremely effective...and we are learning how to support them properly as they grow! Congrats!
Posted by: Justrand || 11/04/2005 18:05 Comments || Top||

#3  Just heard it aired on NPR... the reporter actually sounded guardedly pleased.
Posted by: Sgt. Mom || 11/04/2005 18:31 Comments || Top||

#4  Allowing for the snark, it's a decent article.
Posted by: Pappy || 11/04/2005 19:18 Comments || Top||


Britain: Bomb technology enters Iraq from Iran
Sophisticated technology and explosives to make improvised bombs killing U.S. and other troops in Iraq are apparently entering the country virtually unhindered from Iran, a senior British general said on Friday.

Royal Marines Maj. Gen. James Dutton spoke with reporters in a teleconference from Basra in southern Iraq a day after the Pentagon announced plans to increase efforts to find ways to defend against improvised explosive devices, or IEDs, used by insurgents that are the leading cause of U.S. casualties in the war.

Dutton said he did not know whether the Iranian government or its intelligence service, or perhaps other unspecified groups, were helping Iraqi insurgents smuggle explosives or completed bombs across the porous border into Iraq.

"I simply don't know whether this is official Iranian policy," said Dutton, who commands a 13,000-strong multinational division in southeastern Iraq.

"The IED explosives, particularly the advanced technology IEDs ... we believe the technology is coming across that border," Dutton said. "We're not, regrettably, capturing these arms as they come across the border."

"You wouldn't expect me to go into great details about how we know that. But we're pretty convinced that that is where these things are coming from," Dutton added.

Dutton said the devices in question included crude but effective "explosively formed projectiles," which are cylinders filled with explosives and capped with a copper or steel plate. The plate penetrates the armor of military vehicles, to devastating effect.

The general said coalition forces in his region were working closely with the Iraqi government and border security guards to better police the area, and noted that at least one large cache of explosives was found by Iraqi forces in August.

IRAN DENIES CHARGES

Britain and the United States have accused Iran or the Tehran-backed Lebanese group Hizbollah of providing military expertise to Iraqi insurgents behind attacks on British troops in southern Iraq.

Iran denies meddling in Iraq and says the accusations against it are tied to efforts by Washington and London to report Tehran to the U.N. Security Council for possible sanctions over its nuclear program.


The Pentagon said it is considering putting a more senior officer in charge of a task force set up last year to deal with the homemade bombs. The United States said it was also adding more experts to the effort.

The Pentagon said more than half of all U.S. casualties in Iraq stem from homemade bombs, which are often buried along a road or hidden inside debris or even animal carcasses and usually detonated by remote control or with a timer. The Pentagon said on Friday that 2,035 U.S. soldiers had been killed and nearly 15,500 more wounded in a war that started in March 2003.

"I think we're not completely certain where the manufacture takes place," said Dutton of the devices.

"We know where the technological know-how comes from and we suspect where the parts come from," he said. "Where they are actually put together is something that we're working on."
Posted by: lotp || 11/04/2005 15:21 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "I simply don't know whether this is official Iranian policy," said Dutton,..

Does it matter?
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 11/04/2005 16:07 Comments || Top||


Al-Qaeda claims to have shot down US chopper
Al Qaeda in Iraq claimed yesterday that it shot down a US attack helicopter that crashed, killing two Marines, and a US general said witnesses saw the aircraft take ground fire and break up in the air.

The AH-1W Super Cobra crashed Wednesday near Ramadi during daylong fighting in the insurgent stronghold 70 miles west of Baghdad. In addition to the two crewmen, a US lieutenant died when a bomb exploded as he was rushing to the crash site.

Another US soldier died yesterday in a roadside bombing northeast of Baghdad, the military said.

In its statement, Al Qaeda in Iraq, led by Jordanian Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, said that its military wing ''downed a Super Cobra attack helicopter in Ramadi with a Strella rocket, thanks be to God."

The authenticity of the statement could not be determined. It appeared on an Islamic website and bore the nickname of the group's spokesman, Abu Maysara al-Iraqi. The US military said the cause of the crash had not been determined.

However, Major General Rick Lynch told reporters yesterday that witnesses ''believe they saw a munition fired at the helicopter and saw the helicopter break in pieces in midair and then crash."

In Burlington, Vt., Major General Martha Rainville, the adjutant general of the state's National Guard, said 2d Lieutentant Mark Procopio, 28, of Burlington was killed Wednesday by the roadside bomb as his patrol of four Humvees and two tanks headed to secure the crash site.

''He and his patrol were on a routine mission when they saw a Marine helicopter coming under fire, realized it was going to crash, and responded to provide assistance as necessary and to secure the site," Rainville said. The Humvee in which Procopio was riding struck the bomb and he was killed instantly, she said.

Yesterday, another US soldier died in a roadside bombing near Baqubah, 35 miles northeast of Baghdad. The soldier's name was not released, but the US command said he was assigned to the Army's 43d Military Police Brigade.

The soldier's death raised to at least 2,037 the number of US military service members who have died since the war began in 2003, according to an Associated Press count. It was also the eighth battle death among the 157,000-member US force in November. October was the fourth deadliest month for American service members since the conflict began.

Roadside bombs, which the US military refers to as improvised explosive devices, or IEDs, have accounted for most of the recent US battle deaths, despite a vigorous campaign to improve armament on US vehicles and to hunt down insurgent weapons caches.

Last week, for example, 40 percent of the attacks against US and coalition forces were carried out with IEDs, Lynch said. But they accounted for 64 percent of the US and coalition casualties, he said.

Lynch declined to talk in detail about increased sophistication of roadside bombs, including the use of infrared triggers. British officials say they have seen the use of infrared triggers in attacks against their forces and suspect the technology has been supplied by Iran, a charge the Iranians have denied.

Lynch also predicted an increase in insurgent attacks in an attempt to derail the Dec. 15 elections, when Iraqis will choose a new parliament.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/04/2005 13:11 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Lynch also predicted an increase in insurgent attacks in an attempt to derail the Dec. 15 elections, when Iraqis will choose a new parliament.

When the duely elected government takes its seat in December I think you'll see the gloves finally taken off. The politics will be over and the collective world community will have no say in what transpires when a sovereign Iraq begins to defend itself (with a little help from its freinds) from foreign insurgents.
Posted by: BrerRabbit || 11/04/2005 13:20 Comments || Top||

#2  BR,

I sure hope you're right, but since 9/11 it's been a steady drum beat of "now the gloves come off" and all I've seen is an intensity better suited for an attorney preparing a case against the neighbor who built his shed too close to the property line.

Given that lack of aggressiveness on the part of higher ups, it speaks volumes as to the ability of our military that they have accomplished so much in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Posted by: Dreadnought || 11/04/2005 13:32 Comments || Top||


Al-Qaeda threatens diplomats
Al-Qaeda in Iraq has once again threatened diplomats working in Iraq, telling them to leave the country as soon as possible. "We reiterate our warning to those who insist on maintaining so-called diplomatic missions in Baghdad," said a statement released over the Internet by "the military wing of the Al-Qaeda Organisation in the Land of the Two Rivers" whose authenticity has yet to be authenticated. "Let them pack their bags and leave," said the message.

The warning, which comes just one day after the group announced they would execute two Moroccans working at their country's embassy in Baghdad who were kidnapped in the last few days. It is directed at "those who still do not understand and challenge the will of the mujahadeen [fighters], and especially the missions of countries which have pledged to cooperate with the [Iraqi] apostate government installed by the invading Crusaders [US-led forces], the statement continues.

"We will not spare any effort in tracking them down and punishing them, whoever they are and wherever they are, just as we have done with their predecessors," the statement says, warning that "we do not make any difference between the head of the mission and the most lowly employee as long as they have agreed to...back the criminal government of the [Shiites] and their American master."

Abderrahim Boualem, a 55-year-old driver for the Moroccan embassy, and Abdelkarim Mouhafidi, who works at the same embassy, disappeared in Baghdad on October 20. Six days later al-Qaeda claimed responsibility for their kidnapping.

On July 27, the group led by Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi said it was behind the assassination of two Algerians, chief envoy Ali Belaroussi, 62, and fellow diplomat Azzedine Belkadi, 47, who had been kidnapped six days earlier.

At the beginning of July, it was announced that the Egyptian ambassador to Iraq, Ihab al-Sherif, had been killed, five days after being kidnapped in Baghdad. In days following his abduction diplomats from Bahrain and Pakistan were also attacked in Iraq in what were believed to be other kidnap attempts.

Hassaan al-Ansari, the charge d'affaires for the Bahraini embassy, survived the shooting attempt and was promoted to ambassador by his King.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/04/2005 13:10 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Two terrorists self-destruct while building car bomb
Task Force Baghdad dispatched elements to the scene where two terrorists attempting to build a car bomb were killed when the device prematurely detonated in central Baghdad Nov. 2. Elements dispatched included, an explosives ordnance disposal team and a patrol from 6th Squadron, 8th Calvary Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team.

Two terrorists attempting to build a car bomb were killed when the device prematurely detonated in central Baghdad Nov. 2. The explosion also killed an Iraqi civilian and set a nearby house on fire. Iraqi firefighters responded to douse the flames. The EOD team determined the terrorists had been building the vehicle-carried improvised explosive device using a 122 mm projectile, ball bearings and about 80 pounds of homemade explosives.

During a sweep of the house, the 6-8 Cav. Soldiers found another 122 mm projectile, five hand grenades, three A-47 assault rifles, an RPK machine gun and AK-47 magazines. The red wire!
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/04/2005 11:30 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  this news and a payday Friday! How could things get any better!
Posted by: Frank G || 11/04/2005 12:21 Comments || Top||

#2  Picture this....an entire Brigade Combat team TOC high-fiving each other.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/04/2005 12:26 Comments || Top||

#3  "Ahmed, which wire goes here?"
"I dunno Hamid, I am color-blind too..."
Posted by: BigEd || 11/04/2005 14:02 Comments || Top||

#4  We have two winners...


Posted by: doc || 11/04/2005 16:11 Comments || Top||

#5  It would have been better if the passerby hadn't died.
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 11/04/2005 17:38 Comments || Top||


Two terrorists self-destruct while building car bomb
Task Force Baghdad dispatched elements to the scene where two terrorists attempting to build a car bomb were killed when the device prematurely detonated in central Baghdad Nov. 2. Elements dispatched included an explosives ordnance disposal team and a patrol from 6th Squadron, 8th Calvary Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team.

The explosion also killed an Iraqi civilian and set a nearby house on fire. Iraqi firefighters responded to douse the flames.

The EOD team determined the terrorists had been building the vehicle-carried improvised explosive device using a 122 mm projectile, ball bearings and about 80 pounds of homemade explosives.

During a sweep of the house, the 6-8 Cav. Soldiers found another 122 mm projectile, five hand grenades, three A-47 assault rifles, an RPK machine gun and AK-47 magazines.

here are Verlaine's great snarky remarks:

>"Ahmed, was that the red wire, or the blue one? Huh? Blue, OK. What, no? Red? Uh -- "
The explosion also killed an Iraqi civilian and set a nearby house on fire. Iraqi firefighters responded to douse the flames.

The EOD team determined the terrorists had been building the vehicle-carried improvised explosive device using a 122 mm projectile, ball bearings and about 80 pounds of homemade explosives.

During a sweep of the house, the 6-8 Cav. Soldiers found another 122 mm projectile, five hand grenades, three A-47 assault rifles, an RPK machine gun and AK-47 magazines.

Just another typical, festive Iraqi home during Eid al-Fitr ....
Posted by: Thinesing Angaise8807 || 11/04/2005 01:15 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Strange. I posted this item (which is incomplete here), with snarky comments, under my name. My bad, I assume (though (I'm not sure what I did wrong).
Posted by: Verlaine in Iraq || 11/04/2005 7:14 Comments || Top||

#2  Go Dhimmidonk postal, ViI, demand a recount!
Posted by: .com || 11/04/2005 7:19 Comments || Top||

#3  please..share the snark.
Posted by: 2b || 11/04/2005 7:19 Comments || Top||

#4  Ahmed: "Hey, Mohammed! Does the green wire connect to silver post or the gold post?"

Mohammed: I think it's silver post. No! It's the gold post! No it's the...BOOM!!!!"

anymouse: allan ahkbar!!!!
Posted by: anymouse || 11/04/2005 7:32 Comments || Top||

#5  Verlaine, it's a cookie problem; if your cookies don't "stick", you have to comment first with your nick, and then post the article, it should be ok (works for me anyway).
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/04/2005 7:57 Comments || Top||

#6  On second thought, perhaps it's a double post, and your article was the second, and may appear later.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 11/04/2005 7:58 Comments || Top||

#7  No virgins for these two! Just ultimate justice... maybe there is a God?
Posted by: NOTR || 11/04/2005 8:33 Comments || Top||

#8  "Stuck on Stupid." Excellent news! I think it's time for night bombing of the ball bearing factories, but not in Schweinfurt.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/04/2005 8:39 Comments || Top||

#9  I guess they've never studied the Mad Bomber Uniform Wiring Code.
Posted by: Phil Fraering || 11/04/2005 8:49 Comments || Top||

#10  OSHA and your state Bureau of Workmen's Compensation remind you: safety first, on the job and in the home.
Posted by: Mike || 11/04/2005 9:15 Comments || Top||

#11  Actually, they did. Fred wrote it.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/04/2005 9:28 Comments || Top||

#12  I think Fred also photoshopped the wiring diagram ...
Posted by: Steve White || 11/04/2005 10:27 Comments || Top||

#13  Verlaine in Iraq.
I think it was my post, although I didn't make any comment.
My problem is that I commute between my small farm full of kangaroos and rabbits and sheep and my city property.
I think the cookie gets confused between the two.
Posted by: tipper || 11/04/2005 10:51 Comments || Top||

#14  My problem is that I commute between my small farm full of kangaroos and rabbits and sheep and my city property.

same here..I ride a Road Runner to my dental floss plantation.
Posted by: Red Dog || 11/04/2005 12:19 Comments || Top||

#15  tipper, if you are using two different computers, try changing the cookies to tipper(@home) and tipper(@work) to fix the problem. If you're using a laptop at two different locations, though, I've no clever advice.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/04/2005 12:40 Comments || Top||

#16  one hopes that this is a result of the recent captures and deaths of several leading AQ types at the hands of Coalition forces, leading to more amateurish bombmakers.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 11/04/2005 13:52 Comments || Top||

#17  I think Fred also photoshopped the wiring diagram ...

...with all blue wires.
Posted by: Rafael || 11/04/2005 14:15 Comments || Top||

#18  Task Force Baghdad dispatched elements to the scene where two terrorists attempting to build a car bomb were killed when the device prematurely detonated in central Baghdad Nov. 2.

*applause, applause*

Encore! Encore!
Posted by: Bomb-a-rama || 11/04/2005 16:01 Comments || Top||


Two Yemeni Bad Boyz nabbed in Baghdad
US forces announced the capture of two men in southern Baghdad believed to be Yemeni operatives of Osama bin Laden’s al-Qaeda network. The men are “suspected members of a Yemeni branch of al-Qaeda who were on a reconnaissance assignment in Baghdad,” the military said. “Both were in possession of Yemeni passports.” The men “admitted to being from Yemen,” said Captain Matthew Wheeler, a US intelligence officer. “There is a lot of circumstantial evidence against the detainees, and that will solidify as we examine the evidence more closely.” US officials said US and Iraqi soldiers had also captured 12 suspects as well as 65 AK-47 rifles, three light machine guns and ammunition in a separate raid on Monday night.
Posted by: Fred || 11/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  “There is a lot of circumstantial evidence against the detainees, and that will solidify as we examine the evidence more closely.”

"Circumstantial evidence," yea, they are both Arab, under 35, holding freshly minted passports, no employment links and no host-nation contacts, visiting a known ME vacation hot spot, without luggage. Definately not Fuller Brush men.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/04/2005 8:34 Comments || Top||

#2  KILL KILL KILLL!!!!!
Posted by: ARMYGUY || 11/04/2005 12:02 Comments || Top||

#3  ArmyGuy, you forgot the "FASTER PUSSYCAT!" lead-in.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 11/04/2005 12:29 Comments || Top||


Another Emir of Mosul dances with worms
On Tuesday, the Iraqi government said that security forces found the body of Abd al-Satar, who they described as “a key al-Qaeda member” and the current “emir” of Mosul, the country’s main northern city. “The security forces conducted a raid and found Abd al-Satar’s body on the truck with three other dead terrorists,” the government said.

According to the government, three other “emirs” of Mosul were captured or killed in June, August and September. The US military also announced a series of air strikes “against three al-Qaeda in Iraq terrorist safe houses” around the far western Iraqi town of Husaybah, near the border with Syria. The strike reportedly killed Abu Asim, described as “a senior al-Qaeda in Iraq foreign fighter facilitator who was recently brought in to replace another facilitator thought to have been killed by Coalition Forces.”
Posted by: Fred || 11/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Heh, now we're just finding dead "emirs" lying about. Lol! Fabulous!
Posted by: Regnad Kcin || 11/04/2005 1:24 Comments || Top||

#2  Another Emir of Mosul dances with worms

good news & good headline. lol
Posted by: Red Dog || 11/04/2005 3:33 Comments || Top||

#3  Gotta pick up the TRASH before we move on.Our motto: No TRASH LEFT BEHIND!!!!!
Posted by: ARMYGUY || 11/04/2005 8:29 Comments || Top||


Tater slams al-Qaida
A cleric close to Shia leader Muqtada al-Sadr has called on Iraqis to unite and fight al-Qaida during prayers being held to mark the Muslim festival of Eid al-Fitr Iraqis must "unite to fight terrorism and to get rid of people like al-Qaida," said the cleric Hazem al-Araji. These groups "sometimes act in the name of Ansar as-Sunna (partisans of the Sunnis), but they are enemies of the Sunnis,” he said on Thursday. "You who call yourselves Qaida al-Jihad (base of the holy war), you are the base of apostasy," he said, referring to Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's group. Since Saturday, at least 71 people have been killed in bombing attacks on Shia Muslim targets.
Posted by: Fred || 11/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  For public consumption only?
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 11/04/2005 0:34 Comments || Top||

#2  Good question, SPOD. I would say "wheels within wheels", but this is Tater, who hasn't got two spokes to rub together, much less a whole wheel. Maybe this is a scripted line from his Iranian controller. Who knows? I wish someone would kill him, already.
Posted by: Regnad Kcin || 11/04/2005 0:41 Comments || Top||

#3  A lovely thought : Al-Q and Tater go at each other, resulting in multiple casualties on both sides - with Tater being one {Martyr for Shia Cause, anyone?}
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 11/04/2005 2:34 Comments || Top||

#4  follow the money.
Posted by: 3dc || 11/04/2005 2:55 Comments || Top||

#5  More Red on Red!!!! Yeah!!!!
Posted by: anymouse || 11/04/2005 7:39 Comments || Top||

#6  Funny, I would of realized they were'nt good people sometime after the second mosque attack. We do have a better education system.
Posted by: plainslow || 11/04/2005 7:43 Comments || Top||

#7  Is it just more 7.62x39 that he needs?
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/04/2005 8:41 Comments || Top||

#8  "...Since Saturday, at least 71 people have been killed in bombing attacks on Shia Muslim targets."

The above is NOT the reason Tater is bending anti Al Q. The reason for Tater's shift is that some of his own militia have been kidnapped, beaten, tortured and beheaded by Al q thugs.

It's one thing to kill Shiites. Tater doesn't care about ordinary Shiites. It's another thing when your own protective service is being picked off.
Posted by: mhw || 11/04/2005 9:00 Comments || Top||

#9  This is the payoff for SCIRI and Dawa agreeing to take him on their list, with a more prominent role. SCIRI and Dawa on the other hand, needed Muqtys support, since Sistani is being less supportive, and the more secularist Shiites, like Chalabi, are abandoning the UIA slate. So they need each other - the question is how well will UIA (SCIRI-Dawa-Muqty) do in December? In January they got 48% of the vote - but that was with Sistani's support, and with the secularists on board, and with few Sunnis voting. OTOH, theyve had months to establish patronage machines all over the southern provinces. My guess is they get 30 to 40% of the vote in December.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 11/04/2005 12:15 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Israel arrests al-Jazeera cameraman
Israeli police have arrested and beaten a cameraman from the Qatar-based satellite TV channel Al Jazeera and confiscated his equipment. Nabil Mazzawi was in the village of Bil'in near Ramallah in the West Bank filming a demonstration against the controversial security barrier when he was arrested, along with four activists. Al Jazeera alleges Mazzawi was badly beaten by police officers when he was arrested.

The police say he was arrested for attacking a police officer. They said one of the activists also attacked an officer, while the other three lay on the road and refused to move.
"He kept hitting my fist with his face. Look at that swelling on my knuckles, it'll be sore for a week!"
According to the Israeli Defence Forces, around 40 Israelis, Palestinians and foreigners took part in the protests, which Mazzawi was filming, along with reporter Shirin Abu Akali. The foreign press association in Israel described the arrest as "completely unjustified" and called for his immediate release.

Reporters without Borders, an international press freedom organisation, says the Al Jazeera network has suffered persistent harassment. It has been censored in Algeria, Iran, Tunisia and Canada. The Iraqi government also closed down the channel's Baghdad bureau in August 2004.
Another of the channel's cameraman, Sami al-Haj, has been imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba since the beginning of 2002.
Quit being a terrorist media outlet and we'll quit oppressing you.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/04/2005 15:40 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A good start. I hope some civic minded citizens emulate this action here soon. We need to wake up and understand the press is not a friend to liberty and freedom for all. They only care about themselves. Let the beatings continue until we hear the unvarnished and unfiltered truth from them.
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 11/04/2005 17:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Does Reporters without Borders operate in Iran?
Posted by: DoDo || 11/04/2005 17:29 Comments || Top||

#3  All they could find were 40 paleos for an anti-joooo protest? sheesh.
Posted by: Brett || 11/04/2005 17:58 Comments || Top||

#4  No one's being oppressed or repressed. I can barely touch them, even though they're screaming epithets and spitting in my face. Hey, Mr Peacenik - just think about telling the wide-eyed chippies about your brave resistance - it will get you laid, trust me. It makes my heart sing to see you express yourself, physically. I love it when you resist. Please resist.
Posted by: Deputy Dawg || 11/04/2005 18:01 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
The Marines Use LEGOS to Build a Play House
November 4, 2005: Inspired by Legos, and other children’s toys like building blocks, the U.S. Marine Corps is building the world’s largest urban warfare training area out in the Mohave Desert of California. There are currently some 400 structures, from private homes, to large government building complexes, erected in the training area. When more money arrives, the “town” will expand to as many as 1,500 structures.

What’s different about all this is that shipping containers, equipped with doors, windows, some paint and contents, are being used to represent the buildings. Like Legos, the containers can be joined together, or stacked, to make larger buildings. More importantly, the entire “town” can be rearranged to represent a different kind of environment. The training town now being built represents what the marines are currently encountering in Iraq. But in a few years, the marines may be fighting somewhere else, and they want their training town to reflect that, quickly, when the need arises.

Based on the many urban battles marines have fought in Iraq, most notably Fallujah, the new training center allows troops to experience urban warfare in a less lethal environment. Learning this stuff on the job can be deadly for the trainees, so the $110 million put into the center so far is worth it in terms of lives saved.

The marines have been carefully studying urban warfare since the early 1990s, and have used their experience in Iraq to develop new tactics, and training methods. The U.S. Army has nothing like the marine training center, and is negotiating for some time to get army troops into it. The marines are using the center heavily, but they are always ready to deal.

The most serious shortcoming noted, especially by combat veterans of Iraq, are the smaller number of civilians present in the training area. In actual urban battlefields, there are lots of civilians running, or scurrying, around. For the Mohave Desert training area, local civilians have to be hired to act as extras, or off-duty marines found for that work. There are never enough civilians available. But aside from that, marines who have trained among the tricked up shipping containers, report that the experience was most useful once they reached real urban fighting in Iraq.
Posted by: Steve || 11/04/2005 10:03 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hey Gunny, yea need ya over here right away... and bring the blueprints for the New Orleans container town scenario.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/04/2005 10:48 Comments || Top||

#2  Current MOUT

Posted by: Shipman || 11/04/2005 12:03 Comments || Top||

#3  If they were to publicize this, I'll bet they could get lots of tourists to play civilian for a day. For anyone with teenage boys, being in the middle of a real game would be waaaaay cooler than Disneyland (-world?). Not to mention all the Silicon Valley types who like to wargame in their off time.
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/04/2005 12:54 Comments || Top||

#4  Trailing Wife: I've always thought that men who play with lead soldiers and "war game in thier time off" were a bunch of banana whackers.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/04/2005 13:09 Comments || Top||

#5  Any mil dudes know where I look into signing up to be a civilian for these training scenarios ?

Somebody could make a good business out of this by advertising it as some sort of Extreme Adventure Travel.

Yes, I'm serious.
Posted by: Carl in N.H. || 11/04/2005 14:17 Comments || Top||

#6  I'm sorry, Besoeker, I've lead a sheltered life. Is being a banana whacker good or bad?
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/04/2005 14:32 Comments || Top||

#7  whahahahhaaaa..... good if your 17, lol.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/04/2005 14:33 Comments || Top||

#8  And you're, what, 15?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 11/04/2005 14:37 Comments || Top||

#9  ....yes Bob, but I have a lazy banana.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/04/2005 14:41 Comments || Top||

#10  I understood that George AFB in Victorville was in use for urban warfare training. When the base closed, the housing was left vacant and usable
Posted by: Frank G || 11/04/2005 14:41 Comments || Top||

#11  Actually Beso a good number of former, active and retired military do in fact play with 'toy' soldiers as a hobby. Usually staying away from contemporary themes. Its an interest in history that draws most.
Posted by: Hupomosh Elmomoting2752 || 11/04/2005 15:14 Comments || Top||

#12  May be a few Hupo, but none that I drink with. Gave it up after dog chewed up my German machinegunner.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/04/2005 15:21 Comments || Top||


Marines Buy 40mm Six Gun
November 4, 2005: The U.S. Marine Corps is buying the MGL-140 40mm, six shot, grenade launcher. This weapon is, literally, a shotgun size revolver that fires standard American 40mm grenades. Thus it has a minimum range of 30 meters, and a maximum range of 400 meters. The weapon is 32 inches long, and weighs 13.2 pounds empty, and 20.3 pounds loaded (40mm rounds weigh about 19 ounces each.)

Like any 40mm grenade launcher, it can fire lethal and non-lethal (tear gas, Etc.) rounds, and fire all six of them in a few seconds. The MGL-140 also has a rail for mounting various types of aiming devices (day and night scopes). MGL-140s retail for $6,000 each, but the marines may have gotten a volume discount.
Posted by: Steve || 11/04/2005 09:57 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  MGL-140s retail for $6,000 each, but the marines may have gotten a volume discount.
It pays to shop at Walmart.
Posted by: GK || 11/04/2005 10:39 Comments || Top||

#2  What? You have to have wrists the size of tree trunks to fire the thing?
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/04/2005 11:05 Comments || Top||

#3  I have absolutely no idea how they do it, but in the last decade or so, they have come up with the damndest ways of reducing recoil.
I was amazed the first time I saw video of a SA fully-automatic shotgun in operation. The thing looked like an upsized Uzi, was just hosing downrange, and yet did not appear to be kicking like a mule. Amazing.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 11/04/2005 11:38 Comments || Top||

#4  If the Milkor MGL is a hit, maybe they'll buy some Rooikats as well.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/04/2005 11:44 Comments || Top||

#5  We need more weapons like this. The Durkas have an aversion to be missing body parts when meeting their 72 virgins.
Posted by: usmc6743 || 11/04/2005 11:49 Comments || Top||

#6  Does it come with a proximity fused air-burst round? Goose season is coming up and.....
Posted by: Steve || 11/04/2005 13:32 Comments || Top||

#7  Does it come with a proximity fused air-burst round? Goose season is coming up and.....

You like pate?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 11/04/2005 13:49 Comments || Top||

#8  Can we do a 99% discount for French Infidels?
Posted by: TerminalDecline || 11/04/2005 16:38 Comments || Top||

#9  ... and fire all six of them in a few seconds.

Great for crowd control.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/04/2005 18:18 Comments || Top||

#10  A real Street Sweeper.
Posted by: Regnad Kcin || 11/04/2005 18:35 Comments || Top||

#11  [smek, smek, smek]

"Oh Nicky, oh Nicky, are you all right?!"

[smek, smek, smek]

"Nicky, are you all right?"

[smek, smek, smek]

"Why, yes, Nancy, I'm all right."

[smek, smek, smek]

"THEN STOP SLAPPING ME!"

Thank you, Regnad Kcin.

[Cue the "dull stacatto of raindrop on my desktop ..."]

Posted by: Zenster || 11/04/2005 22:53 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Rajah Soliman leader sez attacks will continue
The leader of the Rajah Solaiman Islamic Movement (RSIM) on Friday vowed that the planned bomb attacks in Metro Manila and other parts of the country will proceed despite his arrest.

TV Patrol World reported that according to Ahmad Islam Santos, comrades are out to continue the bombings after these were delayed following his arrest in Zamboanga City last week.

The threat issued by Santos was included in the tactical interrogation report released by the military on Friday.

Santos said that prior to the arrest, he was planning a bomb attack with two foreign-born terrorists.

He identified the foreigners as members of the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF). The military, however, said Santos was referring to Indonesian nationals Dulmatin and Umar Patek, both members of the Jema'ah Islamiyah (JI). The two Indonesians are suspected of masterminding the Bali bombings and have a $10-million price tag on their head.

Meanwhile, the military said it has established the connection of RSIM with terrorist group Abu Sayyaf.

The military said that in its tactical interrogation with Santos, the RSIM leader indicated ties with ASG leaders Khadaffy Janjalani and Jainal Antel Sali alias Abu Solaiman.

The military said Santos also told interrogators that his group and the ASG are planning to stage suicide bombings in places frequented by foreigners.

The "bombing project," as Santos claimed, is already in the works, with Sali providing the materials for the bomb. He also identified a certain Pio de Vera and Kareem Ayeras, his classmates in an "explosives training" in Pawas, Maguindanao in 2002, as the ones responsible for the purchase of explosives and the bomb-making.

Santos also told the military that he joined the RSIM to be part of the "jihad" or holy war being waged by the ASG, the JI and al Qaeda.

Santos, along with seven other RSIM members, were arrested last week by the police and military at a safe house in Sitio Triplet, Barangay San Jose, Zamboanga City. Among those captured were Santos's wife Narumruja Amdal and his son Yasser. The raiders also seized at least 49 anti-tank rockets, ammunition and an M-16 rifle.

The military alleged that the RSIM planned to bomb a nightspot in Malate, Manila, during the Lenten season in an attack bigger than the bombings that killed more than 200 people in Bali, Indonesia, in 2002.

Rear Admiral Tirso Danga, Armed Forces deputy chief of staff for intelligence, said the Santos, who is also known as Hilarion del Rosario Santos III, established a terrorist training camp with two Indonesian fugitives sought for the 2002 Bali bombings in his family’s farm in Pangasinan. The group also amassed a huge stockpile of explosives, Danga added.

He said Santos and his group planned to detonate a bomb in Malate, a district foreign nationals frequent at night. The plot, however, was foiled after authorities discovered the explosives in an RSIM safehouse in Quezon City and later, Santos’ arrest in Zamboanga.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/04/2005 15:42 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Hamas Eyes New Host Country
Damascus, 4 Nov. (AKI) - Militant group Hamas has reportedly asked Egypt and Jordan if either would be prepared to host the organisation's headquarters, Tel-Aviv based daily Haaretz reported on Friday. Hamas fears that Syria - where it and rival Palestinian militant group Islamic Jihad's political leadership are currently based - may force the groups to leave, in an effort to ease international pressure on Damascus involving an ongoing UN probe into the murder of former Lebanese prime minister, Rafik Hariri. Both Egypt and Jordan have refused Hamas' request, according to Haaretz.
"Ummm, No"
Syria's current crisis is affecting relations between the political leadership of Hamas - classified a terrorist organisation by the United States and the European Union - and its operatives in the territories, who receive instructions and money from the group's headquarters. In recent months, the Damascus offices have changed their modus operandi to lower the profile of their relationship with operatives in the West Bank and Gaza.

Hamas and Islamic Jihad now just set guidelines, such as the general timetable for an attack or the general area where it should it take place, Haaretz said. This makes it more difficult to trace contacts between bombers and headquarters in Damascus, and distances the Syrian government from accusations of direct involvement in terrorism. It also makes it harder for Israeli intelligence to obtain advance warning of an attack. Hamas's relative restraint in the past week, despite Israel's slaying of one of its operatives, Fawzi al-Qara, is a sign of Syria's desire to avoid escalation right now, Haaretz said.

Hamas was headquartered in Jordan until 1999, when King Abdullah expelled several senior organisation officials from the country, who were relocated to Syria and Qatar. Egypt maintains close ties with Hamas, partly to maintain its role as chief mediator between the Palestinian Authority and Islamic organisations.
Posted by: Steve || 11/04/2005 11:12 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Al Quaenada might be an option.
Posted by: dushan || 11/04/2005 11:29 Comments || Top||

#2  I thought they already had a base to operate from....called the US
Posted by: ARMYGUY || 11/04/2005 11:36 Comments || Top||

#3  I hear France has some places for it to set up. Or do they already have offices there?
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 11/04/2005 11:39 Comments || Top||

#4  nah, they dont like have their cars set afire. Damascus is a lot comfier than the banlieus.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 11/04/2005 12:06 Comments || Top||

#5  All Hamas did in the U.S. was collect money, and they tried to stay under the radar even so. But I don't think they've been able to do even that for some years, not after Prof. al-Arian was arrested. (Has he been convicted yet?)
Posted by: trailing wife || 11/04/2005 12:47 Comments || Top||

#6  the holy city of Qom in Iran.

They could even hold a terrolympics there every 2 years (I assume summer and winter terror events would be defferent)
Posted by: mhw || 11/04/2005 12:54 Comments || Top||

#7  I would like to extend the invitation to Hamas to relocate to beautiful and scenic Memphis TN, we'd love to have you over for some pork BBQ ribs, yes Memphis style, none of that bullshit they're peddling as BBQ in St. Louis.

And don't forget to wear orange, it's hunting season and you know us rednecks, we'll shoot anything that moves and lots of shit that doesn't!

I'll take you down to 3rd and McLemore and we can go talk to Daddy Mack about patriotism, that'll be fun won't it! He's a shade tree mechanic with a blowtorch and a few crackeheads who live in the alley behind his shop.

You'd be surprised by the inhumane and downright midieval shit a 3rd street crackhead is willing to do for 20 dollars. Cracking teeth with pliars, ripping out toenails and cutting, burning, and or crushing human appendages clean off. I've been surprised again and again at their ghetto ingenuity. Downright nasty I says.

But you'll love the sights, home of rock and roll and don't forget Beale Street, home of the blues. It will be a hell of a time I tell you, a hell of a time, and then we can go for a ride to the swamps and sloughs of Yazoo Mississippi, you'll never want to leave!

I know an old farmer down there that swears up and down a grown man can be eaten by a couple of hogs in less than a day. Now I'd like to see that, how about ya'll?

We'll give ya'll some real Southern Hospitality!Anyway, just give us a call, we'd love to have you!

EP
Posted by: ElvisHasLeftTheBuilding || 11/04/2005 13:20 Comments || Top||

#8  From the Belmont Club archives: The Ichneumon Wasp.
Posted by: Seafarious || 11/04/2005 13:27 Comments || Top||

#9  Mmmmm entrails.Nice mental picture Seafarious,

The blowtorch is for cauterizing those nasty booboos long enough to visit our friend the pig farmer.

Pigs, however, have no preference where they begin eating and so whether it be your face, philanges, or well, other appendages I'm sure they'll be enthusiastic if not downright thorough.

Yep, good times.

EP
Posted by: ElvisHasLeftTheBuilding || 11/04/2005 13:41 Comments || Top||

#10  nice of the parasite to ask the host before infecting
Posted by: Frank G || 11/04/2005 13:41 Comments || Top||

#11  Hamas, you ain't nuthin but a hound dog, cryin all the time. You nuthin but a two bit terrorists and you ain't no friend of mine.

You boys ignore that other Elvis and keep your asses in the middle east, preferably snuggled up with a hog somewhere about 6' underground.
Posted by: Evil Elvis || 11/04/2005 15:00 Comments || Top||

#12  With such "feelers" going out I think they have been requested to leave, perhaps even given a date to be gone by. Really gone not just out of site 'gone'. Syria wants to be seen as not supporting terrorism. The ruling family party is removing excuses for a external attack against them.
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 11/04/2005 19:14 Comments || Top||


Mystery Military Moves in Damascus
Reports made the rounds in the past 24 hours about military movements around the Damascus houses of Syrian officials mentioned by U.N. chief investigator Detlev Mehlis in connection with the assassination of 5-time Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri, An Nahar reported on Thursday.

"These reports have raised questions on whether these movements were precautionary measures or for other purposes," said the terse report of 44 words on An Nahar's page-one. The report was carried under this headline: "Reports of Movements in Damascus the Nature of Which Could Not Be Determined."

The story coincided with leaks that German Prosecutor Detlev Mehlis and his team were deliberating at their Monteverde headquarters northeast of Beirut the list of Syrian intelligence chiefs that they want to interrogate next week.

The commission reportedly prefers to conduct the interrogations at Monteverde but President Assad's regime has a right to have a say on the interrogation venue but not to object to anyone in Syria the commission demands to question under Security Council Resolution 1636.

There is no doubt that the Mehlis commission is bent on interrogating Assad's younger brother Maher, who is the commander of the presidential guard brigade, and brother-in-law Gen. Assef Shawkat, who heads Syria's military intelligence service. Another officer marked for interrogation is Brig. Gen. Rustom Ghazaleh, who headed Syria's military intelligence apparatus in Lebanon when Hariri was killed Feb. 14.

The assets of a Lebanese woman suspected of being Ghazaleh's wife, Lubna Oweidat, have been frozen at instructions from the Mehlis commission along with the accounts of four additional Lebanese army officers, Saad Hariri's Al Mustaqbal newspaper reported on Thursday.

Among the officers targeted by the financial crackdown is air force pilot Wassef Serhal, who is in charge of foreign relations at the presidential palace and is reported to have resigned his post and his membership of the presidential guard brigade over the arrest of the brigade's commander Gen. Mustafa Hamdan as a primary suspect in Hariri's assassination, Al Mustaqbal said.

The other three officers were identified by Al Mustaqbal as Col. Elias Sassin, commander of the special squads of the presidential guard brigade, Col. Mohammed Mossin, President Lahoud's personal aide de camp and Brig. Gen. Faisal al Rashid, former commander of the regional department of the state security service
Posted by: Steve || 11/04/2005 23:07 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Mystery Military Moves in Damascus-- reminds me of Soddy "surrounding" type of activity.
Posted by: twobyfour || 11/04/2005 0:38 Comments || Top||

#2  A coup is a-comin'.
Posted by: Regnad Kcin || 11/04/2005 0:42 Comments || Top||

#3  Kcin, I think it is just a mysterious activity for foreign consumption: "We are so upset by this Hariri affair and we'll get to the bottom of it" from Ass-sad bag'o'tricks.
Posted by: twobyfour || 11/04/2005 0:49 Comments || Top||

#4  This may be to prevent a coup by those folks about to be arrested. It's possible that Bashir al Assad had nothing to do with the assassination. Saddam owned the Iraqi state. I don't think Bashir has the same authority his dad, Hafez, did. Hafez took power the old-fashioned way, by killing his way to the top. Bashir merely inherited it.
Posted by: Elmenter Snineque1852 || 11/04/2005 1:15 Comments || Top||

#5  A Chinese Syrian Fire Drill using military units? Lol, okay if you wanna posit that idea, sure. But then again, I beg to differ, lol. :)
Posted by: Regnad Kcin || 11/04/2005 1:19 Comments || Top||

#6  Kcin, my crystal ball sez no coup in Syria in a foreseeable future (meaning about 4 weeks time). Ass-sad grip on power is quite firm and he has a few hand-picked scape-goats if necessary. After that, there may be other dices in play.
Posted by: twobyfour || 11/04/2005 1:54 Comments || Top||

#7  Anti-commando forces to keep any 'criminals' from being plucked up and taken to place outside of Syrian control by "outside forces."
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 11/04/2005 2:37 Comments || Top||

#8  ·
Posted by: Huposing Thiger5407 || 11/04/2005 4:33 Comments || Top||

#9  but President Assad's regime has a right to have a say on the interrogation venue

yikes. Hope Mehlis has a good team of bomb sniffing dogs!
Posted by: 2b || 11/04/2005 5:56 Comments || Top||

#10  Interesting... The force protecting him today can easily become the force that topples him tomorrow. For the right price at the right time, all asshats become vulnerable... It's not like they obey him for the good of the nation... He's been in power for almost 4.5 years, and he hasn't handled it all that well, has he? Just musing aloud...
Posted by: .com || 11/04/2005 6:59 Comments || Top||

#11  Dang...Red on Red!!!! Go teams go!!! Go teams go!!! Maybe we can have a tailgate party?
Posted by: anymouse || 11/04/2005 7:37 Comments || Top||

#12  My prediction that Assad will be dead as the proverbial Dodo by midnight on december 31, 2005 still stands, but I could tolerate some slippage for the right outcome.
Posted by: phil_b || 11/04/2005 8:18 Comments || Top||

#13  ...President Assad's regime has a right to have a say on the interrogation venue but not to object to anyone in Syria the commission demands to question under Security Council Resolution 1636.

Given the troop movements, I'd guess that 'objecting' is what will occur.
Posted by: Pappy || 11/04/2005 11:05 Comments || Top||

#14  They're just hanging around for the suicides, the many, many suicides.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 11/04/2005 11:10 Comments || Top||


Iranians Protest Outside Italian Embassy
Several dozen Iranians demonstrated yesterday outside Italy’s Embassy in Tehran as diplomatic ties between Rome and Tehran continued to deteriorate over Iran’s nuclear ambitions and its anti-Israeli stance. “Israel should be and will be wiped off the map,” and “Italian soldiers must leave Iraq,” read some of the banners carried by protesters who chanted “Death to Israel” and “Death to America.”
Irony alert via Kuwait News Agency:
Italian Deputy Prime Minister and Minister of Foreign Affairs Gianfranco Fini on Thursday reconsidered participating in a protest in solidarity with Israel outside the Iranian embassy in Rome. Fini, who stressed earlier that he would join the protest before 10 p.m. local time, said in a statement that his participation in the demonstration may result in Iranian reactions that would harm Italian national interest and safety of Italian citizens. Meanwhile, opposition leader and candidate for the position of Italian prime minister Romano Prodi announced that he would not participate in the protest. A spokesperson for Prodi said that he expressed solidarity with Israel's right to exist, noting that he also met with the Iranian ambassador in Rome. The Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi also met with the Iranian ambassador on Wednesday during a meeting with Muslim ambassadors in Rome on the occasion of Eid el-Fitr.
Posted by: Fred || 11/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Lol. See how it works Silvio? Somebody smells blood in the water.
Posted by: Regnad Kcin || 11/04/2005 0:44 Comments || Top||

#2  ·
Posted by: Huposing Thiger5407 || 11/04/2005 4:36 Comments || Top||

#3  Well said, Huposing.

Israel's right to exist?? You gotta be kidding me! There must be more to this story. I don't think the Italians are this spineless.

And did the protestors not have any "Death to Italy" signs?
Posted by: 2b || 11/04/2005 5:15 Comments || Top||

#4  oops...well said, Regnad.
Posted by: 2b || 11/04/2005 5:16 Comments || Top||

#5  This story indicate the Italians are hopping mad... as does this one...

But those are both anti-Mullah news services, I think... Don't see any MSM outlets saying the same, so either they've blacked this out, per the agenda, or it's being exaggerated by these two.
Posted by: .com || 11/04/2005 7:07 Comments || Top||

#6  Fini ... said in a statement that his participation in the demonstration may result in Iranian reactions that would harm Italian national interest and safety of Italian citizens.

In other words, he's scared. Either of losing economic contracts or of terrorist reprisals. No matter which way you cut it, the Iranians win and Italy comes off as lily-livered. Idiots. I wonder what their reaction will be when Iranian missiles land in their back yard.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/04/2005 18:11 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan-Pak-India
Nasar confirmed captured?
A key figure in al-Qaida’s terror network in Europe is under arrest, U.S. counterterrorism officials tell NBC News. Two U.S. officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, say that the alleged terrorist, Mustafa Setmariam Nasar, also known as Abu Musab al-Suri, was recently arrested in Pakistan. Pakistani government officials need to say they are not aware of any such arrest.

Nasar is an expert in explosives and chemicals who trained recruits at al-Qaida terror camps in Afghanistan before the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks in the United States, according to counterterror officials and Nasar's wanted poster on the State Department's Rewards for Justice Web site.

Nasar was born in Syria but is married to a Spanish woman and has Spanish nationality. He has traveled extensively in Europe and has militant connections in Europe, Pakistan and elsewhere, and security experts believe his arrest could prove to be an intelligence bonanza for the CIA and other U.S. and European counterterrorism agencies.

Nasar is known inside the US intelligence world as the “pen jihadist”, a prolific writer whose communiques carry great weight in the militant underworld. He has written extensively on the Internet of his desire to use chemical or biological weapons against the United States, an effort he has described as “dirty bombs for a dirty nation." Last year, the U.S. government announced a $5 million reward for information leading to the capture of Nasar. In September 2003, Nasar was among 35 people named in an indictment handed down by a Spanish magistrate for terrorist activities connected to al-Qaida. Nasar's name has been linked in the press to the July 7 terror bombings in London and to the deadly Madrid bombings in 2004, but US intelligence officials say they are not clear what role, if any, Nasar played in those attacks. The Associated Press reported Thursday morning that a man believed to be Nasar was captured in a raid this week in Quetta, the capital of Pakistan’s southwestern Baluchistan province. A second suspect, identified as Jaish-e-Mohammed, a Pakistani Islamic militant group allegedly linked to al-Qaida, also was arrested and a third suspect, a Saudi named Shaikh Ali Mohammed al-Salim, were shot and killed during the raid, AP reported.

But U.S. counterterrorism officials tell NBC News that Nasar was arrested prior to the Quetta raid, and say it is unclear if the Quetta arrests are even connected at all to Nasar's arrest. Nasar's wanted poster on the Rewards for Justice Web site reports:
"Mustafa Setmariam Nasar, also known as Abu Musab al-Suri, is an al-Qaida member and former trainer at the Derunta and al-Ghuraba terrorist camps in Afghanistan. Born in Aleppo, Syria in 1958, Nasar was a member of the radical Syrian Muslim Brotherhood. He fled Syria in the 1980s and traveled widely throughout the Middle East and North Africa, before associating with the Algerian Islamic Group. He settled in Madrid in 1987 and gained Spanish citizenship through marriage.

While in Spain, he authored a series of inflammatory essays under the pen name Umar Abd al-Hakim. In 1995 he moved to United Kingdom and served as a European intermediary for al-Qaida. Nasar traveled extensively between Europe and Afghanistan throughout the late 1990s, finally moving his family to Afghanistan in 1998. He attempted to organize his own extremist group prior to September 11, 2001 — but in the wake of the attacks he pledged loyalty to Osama bin Ladin as a member of al-Qaida. While in Afghanistan, Nasar worked closely with Midhat Mursi al-Sayid Umar, also known as Abu Khabab al-Masri, to train extremists in poisons and chemicals. Nasar also conducted training at the al-Ghuraba camp in Afghanistan. He is likely in Afghanistan or Pakistan. Recent unconfirmed press reports suggest that he may have had a role in the March 11, 2004, Madrid bombings."
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/04/2005 15:56 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How long do you think we have had him in custody?
Posted by: Grins Sluper5274 || 11/04/2005 16:58 Comments || Top||

#2  He's even been seen in Venezuela!


http://www.canf.org/2005/1es/noticias-de-Cuba/2005-sep-30-importantes-declaraciones.htm
Posted by: SwissTex || 11/04/2005 17:55 Comments || Top||

#3  Grill him for all he's worth then kill him as painfully as possible. Before he dies though, let him know that his body will be greased with pig fat and fed to a pack of dogs. No virgins for that scumbag POS
Posted by: mac || 11/04/2005 18:28 Comments || Top||

#4  GS: kill him as painfully as possible.

Too much work. How would you hire people to do this kind of work? Would you bother torturing roaches? Just weigh him down with concrete overshoes and drop him in the ocean. Instant squid food. Eliminate him and move on to the next guy.
Posted by: Elmenter Snineque1852 || 11/04/2005 21:26 Comments || Top||

#5  When we say we have him in custody I will believe it. Not until then.
Posted by: Sock Puppet O´ Doom || 11/04/2005 23:50 Comments || Top||


Al-Qaeda operative arrives in India from Bangladesh
The Meghalaya police have been placed on high alert after intelligence agencies confirmed that a hardcore Al-Qaeda operative Habib Tanbir alias Ismail has slipped in from Bangladesh to carry out "special operations". Following the information, all 22 police stations in East Khasi Hills have been asked to maintain "strict vigil". A circular issued by the police top brass has asked all police stations to "keep a lookout for Tanbir and apprehend him".

According to Superintendent of Police (Special Branch) AS Rynjah, Tanbir had slipped into India from Bangladesh through the Goalpara district of Assam, to carry a "specific operation". The operative is believed to have come into the country on October 5. Tanbir is believed to be key member of the Al-Qaeda network. Photographs of Tanbir have also been circulated to all police stations. One photograph shows a clean-shaven Tanbir, who is probably in his late 20s. A second photograph shows him with a beard.
Posted by: Dan Darling || 11/04/2005 15:35 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Terror Networks & Islam
VDH: The Real Global Virus
Either the jihadists really are crazy or they apparently think that they have a shot at destabilizing, or at least winning concessions from, the United States, Europe, India, and Russia all at once.

Apart from the continual attacks on civilians by terrorists in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the West Bank, there have now been recent horrific assaults in New Dehli (blowing up civilians in a busy shopping season on the eve of a Hindu festival), Russia (attacking police and security facilities), London (suicide murdering of civilians on the subway), and Indonesia (more bombing, and the beheading of Christian schoolgirls). The loci of recent atrocities could be widely expanded (e.g., Malaysia, North Africa, Turkey, Spain) — and, of course, do not forget the several terrorist plots that have been broken up in Europe and the United States.

The commonalities? There are at least three.

First, despite the various professed grievances (e.g., India should get out of Kashmir; Russia should get out of Chechnya; England should get out of Iraq; Christians should get out of Indonesia; or Westerners should get out of Bali), the perpetrators were all self-proclaimed Islamic radicals. Westerners who embrace moral equivalence still like to talk of abortion bombings and Timothy McVeigh, but those are isolated and distant memories. No, the old generalization since 9/11 remains valid: The majority of Muslims are not global terrorists, but almost all such terrorists, and the majority of their sympathizers, are Muslims.

Second, the jihadists characteristically feel that dialogue or negotiations are beneath them. So like true fascists, they don’t talk; they kill. Their opponents — whether Christians, Hindus, Jews, or Westerners in general — are, as infidels, de facto guilty for what they are rather than what they supposedly do. Talking to a Dr. Zawahiri is like talking to Hitler: You can’t — and it’s suicidal to try.

Third, there is an emboldened sense that the jihadists can get away with their crimes based on three perceptions:

(1) Squabbling and politically correct Westerners are decadent and outnumber the U.S. Marines, and ascendant Islamicism resonates among millions of Muslims who feel sorely how far they have fallen behind in the new globalized world community — and how terrorism and blackmail, especially if energized by nuclear weapons or biological assets, might leapfrog them into a new caliphate.

(2) Sympathetic Muslim-dominated governments like Malaysia or Indonesia will not really make a comprehensive effort to eradicate radical Islamicist breeding grounds of terror, but will perhaps instead serve as ministries of propaganda for shock troops in the field.

(3) Autocratic states such as Pakistan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, and Iran share outright similar political objectives and will offer either stealthy sanctuary or financial support to terrorists, confident that either denial, oil, or nuclear bombs give them security .


Meanwhile, Westerners far too rarely publicly denounce radical Islam for its sick, anti-Semitic, anti-female, anti-American, and anti-modernist rhetoric. Just imagine the liberal response if across the globe Christians had beheaded schoolgirls, taken over schoolhouses to kill students, and shot school teachers as we have witnessed radical Muslims doing these past few months.

Instead, Western parlor elites are still arguing over whether there were al Qaedists in Iraq before the removal of Saddam Hussein, whether the suspicion of WMDs was the real reason for war against the Baathists, whether Muslim minorities should be pressured to assimilate into European democratic culture, and whether constitutional governments risk becoming intolerant in their new efforts to infiltrate and disrupt radical Muslim groups in Europe and the United States. Some of this acrimony is understandable, but such in-fighting is still secondary to defeating enemies who have pledged to destroy Western liberal society. At some point this Western cannibalism becomes not so much counterproductive as serving the purposes of those who wish America to call off its struggle against radical Islam.

Most Americans think that our present conflict is not comparable with World War II, in either its nature or magnitude. Perhaps — but they should at least recall the eerie resemblance of our dilemma to the spread of global fascism in the late 1930s.

At first few saw any real connection between the ruthless annexation of Manchuria by Japanese militarists, or Mussolini’s brutal invasion of Ethiopia, or the systematic aggrandizement of Eastern-European territory by Hitler. China was a long way from Abyssinia, itself far from Poland. How could a white-supremacist Nazi have anything in common with a racially-chauvinist Japanese or an Italian fascist proclaiming himself the new imperial Roman?

In response, the League of Nations dithered and imploded (sound familiar?). Rightist American isolationists (they’re back) assured us that fascism abroad was none of our business or that there were conspiracies afoot by Jews to have us do their dirty work. Leftists were only galvanized when Hitler finally turned on Stalin (perhaps we have to wait for Osama to attack Venezuela or Cuba to get the Left involved). Abroad even members of the British royal family were openly sympathetic to German grievances (cf. Prince Charles’s silence about Iran’s promise to wipe out Israel, but his puerile Edward VIII-like lectures to Americans about a misunderstood Islam). French appeasement was such that even the most humiliating concession was deemed preferable to the horrors of World War I (no comment needed).

We can, of course, learn from this. It’s past time that we quit worrying whether a killer who blows himself up on the West Bank, or a terrorist who shouts the accustomed jihadist gibberish as he crashes a jumbo jet into the World Trade Center, or a driver who rams his explosives-laden car into an Iraqi polling station, or a Chechnyan rebel who blows the heads off schoolchildren, is in daily e-mail contact with Osama bin Laden. Our present lax attitude toward jihadism is akin to deeming local outbreaks of avian flu as regional maladies without much connection to a new strain of a deadly — and global — virus.

Instead, the world—if it is to save its present liberal system of free trade, safe travel, easy and unfettered communications, and growing commitment to constitutional government—must begin seeing radical Islamism as a universal pathology rather than reactions to regional grievances, if it is ever to destroy it materially and refute it ideologically.

Yet the antidote for radical Islam, aside from the promotion of democratization and open economies, is simple. It must be militarily defeated when it emerges to wage organized violence, as in the cases of the Taliban and al Qaeda in Afghanistan, Zarqawi’s terrorists in Iraq, and the various killer cliques in Palestine.

Second, any who tolerate radical Islam should be ostracized. Muslims living in the West must be condemned when they assert that the Jews caused 9/11, or that suicide bombing is a legitimate response to Israel, or that Islamic immigrants’ own unique culture gives them a pass from accustomed assimilation, or that racial and religious affinity should allow tolerance for the hatred that spews forth from madrassas and mosques — before the patience of Western liberalism is exhausted and “the rules of the game” in Tony Blair’s words “change” quite radically and we begin to see mass invitations to leave.

Third, nations that intrigue with jihadists must be identified as the enemies of civilization. We often forget that there are now left only four major nation-states in the world that either by intent or indifference allow radical Islamists to find sanctuary.

If Pakistan were seriously to disavow terrorism and not see it as an asset in its rivalry with India and as a means to vent anti-Western angst, then Osama bin Laden, Dr. Zawahiri, and their lieutenants would be hunted down tomorrow.

If the petrolopolis of Saudi Arabia would cease its financial support of Wahhabi radicals, most terrorists could scarcely travel or organize operations.

If there were sane governments in Syria and Iran, then there would be little refuge left for al Qaeda, and the money and shelter that now protects the beleaguered and motley collection of ex-Saddamites, Hezbollah, and al Qaedists would cease.

So in large part four nations stand in the way of eradicating much of the global spread of jihadism — and it is no accident that either oil or nuclear weapons have won a global free pass for three of them. And it is no accident that we don’t have a means to wean ourselves off Middle East oil or as yet stop Iran from becoming the second Islamic nuclear nation.

But just as importantly, our leaders must explain far more cogently and in some detail — rather than merely assert — to the Western public the nature of the threat we face, and how our strategy will prevail.

In contrast, when the American public is still bickering over WMDs rather than relieved that the culprit for the first World Trade Center bombing can no longer find official welcome in Baghdad; or when our pundits seem more worried about Halliburton than the changes in nuclear attitudes in Libya and Pakistan; or when the media mostly ignores a greater percentage of voters turning out for a free national election in the heart of the ancient caliphate than during most election years in the United States — something has gone terribly, tragically wrong here at home.
Posted by: Steve || 11/04/2005 10:55 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Great piece! Time to treat Nazis like Nazis.
Posted by: imoyaro || 11/04/2005 11:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Bravo
Posted by: 3dc || 11/04/2005 12:17 Comments || Top||

#3  If the petrolopolis of Saudi Arabia would cease its financial support of Wahhabi radicals, most terrorists could scarcely travel or organize operations.

The problem Washington has with kicking fat asses in the Majic Kingdom is the exact same problem they face with China. Both are supporting our debt through gov't bond purchases. How hard you gonna slap somebody thats picking up the tab for your fiscal irresponsibility? I see the phrase "follow the money" time and time again in here. You guys and gals are smart, you know the deal.
Posted by: Besoeker || 11/04/2005 12:24 Comments || Top||

#4  . . . ascendant Islamicism resonates among millions of Muslims who feel sorely how far they have fallen behind in the new globalized world community — and how terrorism and blackmail . . . might leapfrog them into a new caliphate.

I realize the context in which this was written has to do with global Islamicism and terrorism. However I can't help but see the same pattern emerging in the suburbs of Paris.
Posted by: PlanetDan || 11/04/2005 16:27 Comments || Top||

#5  Any and all shennanigans and skullduggery is by anti-definition ANTI-FASCIST/RIGHTIST because a true Fascist-Rightist has enough soulful or spiritual strength to consider himself or herself above such corruption/perversions, i.e. malice. He is a stereotypical "good guy" regardless of the inter-competitive, nation- andor ethnic-specific Value system(s) he adheres to. KILLING FOR SIMPLE SAKE OF KILLING, and HIDING THE FACT is what a LEFTIST does - the Hegelism, the Dialectic Theory, Mackinder's World Island, and the precepts of Anarchism and Alternatism, etc. is theirs or predominately theirs. It is illogical to describe the WOT as solely against IslamoFascism when Left-based Socialists e.g MAOISTS and Russian COMMUNIST-controlled
"NATIONALISTS/FASCISTS" are de facto supp the Radical Islamists. The real issue is whom is behind these Islamists - for me ISLAMOFASCISM is just a PC DIVERSION and LEFT-PROPOGANDA for the LEFT'S ADMAMANT REFUSAL TO ADMIT THEY ARE SUPP THE RADICALS SCHEMES OF ANTI-AMERICAN TERROR AND VIOLENCE, PLUS THEY REFUSE TO ADMIT THAT THE WOT IS FOR THEM AN INTER-SOCIALIST/ABSOLUTIST WAR, I..E "SECULARIST" VERSUS "FAITH/GOD BASED; AND INTRA-SOCIALIST, I.E. FASCIST SOCIALIST VS COMMUNIST SOCIALIST, including Commie-controlled "FASCIST" vs de facto Communist, sub i.e. INTRA-COMMUNIST [ala CLINTONISM], ...etal.
A true Rightist or Rightist Conservative is NOT gonna go thru all the above because a true Rightist doesn't gener give a damn about PC - true Universal EQUALISM stems from Rightism because the human spirit, local andor Global, is allowed to transcend Public Government and the dynamisms of the Temporeal World - wid LEFTISM no one and nothing is allowed, EVER, to transcend Government and the Temporeal World. A Leftist supports INDIVIDUAL/PERSONAL-BASED ANTI-GOVERNMENTISM/REGULATORY ACTIVS IN ORDER TO IMPOSE MORE ANTI-INDIVIDUAL/PERSONAL PUBLIC GOVERNMENT, MORE REGULATION, and MORE CENTRALISM.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 11/04/2005 21:35 Comments || Top||

#6  yep
Posted by: Frank G || 11/04/2005 22:14 Comments || Top||

#7  We're not going to win the foreign theater of operations until we seriously kick some leftist tail here at home. Until we stop the support from citizens of the United States for jihadism, we won't be able to defeat them on the battlefield. The first person that tries will probably be hanged. The second will probably have an army at his back. The same is true of protecting our borders - it's got to be done, and the only way we'll ever GET it done is to break some heads that stand in the way. It's gonna take guts, it's gonna take guns, and it's gonna take numbers, but either it's done, or we'll be defeated from within.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 11/05/2005 0:00 Comments || Top||


Afghanistan-Pak-India
Banned outfits using quake to fill coffers
PESHAWAR: Banned militant organisations are taking advantage of people’s sympathies with the earthquake victims by collecting donations for the “mujahideen” on the unofficial Eid day in Peshawar. “Donate generously to the Jaish-e-Muhammad’s mujahideen,” a bearded young member of the organisation was heard shouting near Baghan-e-Naaran Park in Hayatabad.

Besides Jaish, other banned organisations operating with new names, like Jamatud Dawaa (formerly Lashkar-e-Taiba), also used the occasion to collect donations from the faithful. JD, which is on a government watch list, has been very active in collecting donations for the earthquake victims. “What if the government has banned the Jaish. We are carrying out our mission,” a Jaish supporter told Daily Times, refusing to be named.
Posted by: Fred || 11/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It takes suckers to make a successful con. Welcome to IslamoNutLand.
Posted by: Regnad Kcin || 11/04/2005 0:46 Comments || Top||

#2  You know those exploding dye packets that banks use to foil robberies? Replace the dye with C-4.

If this world has any brains it will permanently cease all emergency monetary aid contributions to Islamist regimes and permit only manufactured goods to be distributed with direct oversight. I realize this article deals with terrorist organizations collecting under false pretenses, but a precedent needs to be set in terms of depriving all uncertified organizations of any currency-based donations.

We've already seen terrorist infrastructure being co-opted for the distribution of relief aid. Let's please get out the jumbo sized cluebat.
Posted by: Zenster || 11/04/2005 3:35 Comments || Top||


President warned of another attack
Intelligence agencies have warned the government that banned jihadi outfits are planning to make another assassination attempt on President General Pervez Musharraf. According to intelligence reports submitted to the Interior Ministry, the Lashker-e-Jhangvi and Jamiatul Furqan (formerly Jaish-e-Mohammad) are trying to “cultivate” a relative of the president who is not on good terms with him or against his policies, sources told Daily Times.

The report says if this scheme fails, the terrorist groups, which have so far been unable to penetrate the tight security around Gen Musharraf, could target close relatives or friends of the president. In light of the intelligence reports, the Interior Ministry has asked the home secretaries of the four provinces and the chief commissioner of Islamabad to collect the particulars of the close relatives and friends of the president and submit them to the ministry, the sources added. The authorities have also been directed to brief the relatives and friends of Gen Musharraf and warn them to be extra careful about their personal security. Meanwhile, the police have been asked to tighten security all round.
Wonder if some close relatives of Perv are going to have terrible accidents soon?
Posted by: Fred || 11/04/2005 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ya just have to wonder what kind of nightmares dreams Perv has when he sleeps. If nothing else, the man has spine.
Posted by: 2b || 11/04/2005 5:47 Comments || Top||



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