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Afghanistan
Militant commander arrested in Afghanistan
The Afghan Army has arrested a former jihadi commander and opponent of the present government in eastern parts of the country. Commander Najibullah was arrested in the Monogay area of the mountainous Kunar province, where the US and Afghan forces are carrying out an anti-insurgents operation "Mountain Lion" over the past two weeks.

Afghan Defence Ministry's spokesman Zahir Azimi, in a statement released on Thursday evening, said the commander was arrested by their units in a raid. He was said to be one of the close aides of Gulbudddin Hekmatyar, former mujahideen prime minister and warlord, who is on top of the US' list of "most wanted men". Najibullah was a deputy minister during Taliban era in Kabul. He was hiding and allegedly taking part in anti-government insurgency in the area, said the statement. It added the man was being investigated and they were expecting valuable information about Gulbuddin and other fugitive leaders.
It would be nice to catch Hek, though a suspect the bodies from the Dog Eat Dog are too cold now for us to expect a proper and swift hanging.
Posted by: Fred || 04/28/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  is this THE Najibullah?
Posted by: liberalhawk || 04/28/2006 9:31 Comments || Top||

#2  If it is, he has to stink more than the run of the mill Tablibs since the Talbiban hanged Prez. Najibullah from a lamp post in 1996 and left him to rot.
Posted by: ed || 04/28/2006 9:40 Comments || Top||

#3  I can't spell worth cr@p.
Posted by: ed || 04/28/2006 9:40 Comments || Top||


Africa Horn
Mystery armed men arrive in CAR
A plane carrying around 50 armed men has landed illegally in northern Central African Republic (CAR), the foreign minister has told the BBC.
"Who are those masked men?"
Jean Paul Ngoupande said the plane had arrived from Sudan and was suspected of being linked to the rebellion in Chad. Earlier this month, UN chief Kofi Annan said he was concerned that the fighting in Chad could further destabilise both Sudan's war-torn Darfur region and CAR. Mr Ngoupande said he was lodging a complaint with the African Union.

Analysts say CAR is being used by Sudanese rebels as a crossing point to Chad.
Tension is rising in Chad ahead of elections due next week. President Idriss Deby insists that the polls will go ahead despite a rebel attack on the capital N'Djamena earlier this month. Sudan and Chad accuse each other of backing rebel groups.

Mr Ngoupande said his government was going to talk to the Sudanese authorities about the plane. Earlier reports said that two planes had landed in CAR.

President Francois Bozize seized power in CAR three years ago, and since he stood successfully in a presidential election last year, a rebel movement has emerged in the north. Thousands have fled the fighting, crossing into Chad. But the BBC's Joseph Benamsse in the CAR capital, Bangui, says that military sources say CAR's rebel groups are no longer operating in the area where the plane landed.
Posted by: Steve || 04/28/2006 08:35 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  either The Wild Geese or the Mighty Ducks
Posted by: Frank G || 04/28/2006 9:28 Comments || Top||

#2  I think the smart thing to do at this point is to give Sudan nuclear technology. Yeah, that would just about take care of it.
Posted by: Uniting Shirt9124 || 04/28/2006 9:32 Comments || Top||

#3  Anybody seen Christopher Walken lately?...
Posted by: mojo || 04/28/2006 11:14 Comments || Top||

#4  I think the smart thing to do at this point is to give Sudan nuclear technology.

Oh, I don't know - if done right (from the belly of a B-1, for instance), it might put a stop to a LOT of the cr@p going on in Africa these days. I wouldn't be surprised to find that Sudan has a hand somehow in the Somali mess, as well as what's going on in Chad, Eritrea, Ethiopia, Kenya, and the Sinai.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/28/2006 13:30 Comments || Top||

#5  I'm sure all the countries are merrily messing about in one another's business as much as possible, not only to keep their own hard boyz busy, but to distract the others from messing in their internal affairs. The colonial property lines never did match the natural tribal borders anyhow, and they've been at it for quite a few generations now.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/28/2006 14:29 Comments || Top||


12 deaths, 2 injuries in clashes among SLM soldiers in Darfur
Up to 12 died and two were injured in clashes among members of a Darfur rebel group in the area of Tawela in northern Darfur region. A field general of the Sudanese Liberation movement (SLM) said in a statement to the press that the clashes were caused by an attack led by Mini Arkoi forces against the Abdulwahed Mohamed Noor forces. Leader Jabara Allah Ishaq said that forces under Arkoi attacked them and caused the death of 12 on both sides as well as several injuries.

The SLD is one of two rebel groups in Darfur controlling large parts of the region and was considered to be the first to declare rebellion against the government in February 2003. The movement saw some major differences between its members when secretary general Mini Arkoi overthrew Mohamed Noor from the SLM leadership which resulted in the ever going dispute between them.
Posted by: Fred || 04/28/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  unfortunately the rebels seem to be incompetent and not particulalrly heroic. IF we go in, it will be to stop genocide, NOT cause the rebels are the salt of the earth.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 04/28/2006 9:29 Comments || Top||

#2  I've been thinking about Sudan the last few days. It seems to me the rally this weekend is fortuitously timed, given Osama bin Laden's recent statement that Darfur is the next battleground. I think President Bush should respond nobly to the rally (our local mosque is hosting a nondenominational rally to protest the situation in Darfur on their grounds at the same time, and I imagine there will be similar activities around the nation) by announcing the sending of a multi-national force -- perhaps Marines/Special Forces plus appropriate flying/bombing thingies with associated staff, to end the Janjaweed depradations and enable the government to reestablish control over renegade Arab militias. (Ok, that last bit was sarcastic, but there was a note from the assistant rabbi in this month's newsletter about the Darfur genocide in which he named the Janjaweed(!!)) Key War on Terror goal being to make Sudan entirely inhospitable to Al Qaeda returnees, while trumpeting the humanitarian goal of making it clear that Arab lebensraum efforts will be stopped both to the Black/Muslim north and to the Black/non-Muslim south of the country.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/28/2006 14:50 Comments || Top||


Bank boomed in Omdurman
Two persons were slightly injured on Tuesday in an explosion of an explosive device at the building of Al-Baraka Bank in Omdurman. In a press conference Tuesday, the Police Head-Quarters explained that a person has thrown a hand grenade at the building, a matter that led to the injury of two customers of the bank. It explained that the police are currently investigating the incident to know who committed it and his motives, pointing that there is a suspect so far.
Posted by: Fred || 04/28/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Who hasn't wanted to throw a grenade at a bank? No story here.
Posted by: 6 || 04/28/2006 17:27 Comments || Top||

#2  Oh! That Omdurman, the home of the first Nutty Mahdi.
Posted by: 6 || 04/28/2006 17:28 Comments || Top||


Africa North
Mauritania: Three Al Qaeda Terrs Escape From Jail
NOUAKCHOTT, Mauritania — Three prisoners accused of belonging to an Al Qaeda-linked Algerian militant group escaped Thursday from a jail in Mauritania's capital, officials said.

The three men were imprisoned on suspicions of membership in the Salafist Group for Call and Combat insurgency, which has launched attacks inside Mauritania. They escaped around 1200GMT from a prison in Nouakchott, said top justice official Limam Ould Teguedi. An investigation has been launched into the circumstances surrounding their flight, he said.
Did they dig a tunnel from the prison to the mosque next door? Did they have any help? Did the guards escort them to the plane?
Police Lt. Mohamed Lemnie said the three were imprisoned in April 2005 by the regime of ousted ex-President Maaouya Sid'Ahmed Ould Taya, who jailed many political opponents on what Mauritanians felt were trumped-up terrorism charges.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/28/2006 00:02 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  In "Palestine" we call it "the revolving door".
Posted by: gromgoru || 04/28/2006 2:56 Comments || Top||

#2  You know, dead men don't escape.
Posted by: Captain America || 04/28/2006 17:04 Comments || Top||

#3  Well they do escape, sorta, they don't have to serve their time, but their career choices are severely limited.
Very few resume their criminal trade after being buried, Che Guvera comes to mind, but no others.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 04/28/2006 19:02 Comments || Top||


Egyptian TV show suicide bomber's body
Egyptian Television aired Thursday video showing the body of the second Sinai suicide bomber moments after he completed the attack. The body was blasted into two parts with pieces strewn all across the area.
Eeeeeewwwww!
Egyptian TV reported the bomber could not have been over 20 years of age. The attacker was riding a bicycle when he slammed into the front of a police patrol headed to the site of the first suicide explosion. The two Sinai attacks claimed no lives other than the bombers, which have yet to be identified by Egyptian security forces. The Dahab resort attackers who killed 23 and injured 85 people have also not been identified.
But the Egyptian coppers are working on it, we're sure...
Egyptian news reports have suspected a man named, Nasr Khamis Al-Milahi, was one of the Sinai bombers. Egyptian Security Forces allege, he was also involved in the planning of the Taba and Sharm El-Sheikh bombings, perhaps even the Dahab attack. A high official source, cited by the Al-Ahram daily, said the Sinai bombings were an act of outlawed "Al-Tawhid wal-Jihad" members being pursued since their identities were uncovered last summer.
The Egyptian cops seem to be okay at pursuit, not so good at catching...
The Minister of Interior, Major General Habib El-Adili ordered nine security groups to the northern Sinai region to surround the mountains the fugitives are hiding in.
This is something that never occurred to him a month or two ago...
"Hokay Chief, we got the mountains surrounded. Now what?"
El-Adili, according to Al-Ahram, said perpetuators of the attacks in Dahab and Sinai have ties to Sinai bedouins.
Damn those Bedouins.
He added, Security forces have information about the attacks which he does not wish to disclose until all details are understood.
"I can say no more!"
Dr. Majdi Radhi denied yesterday reports of a resigning interior minister,
That's too bad, unless he's going to commit seppuku instead...
saying, the Prime Minister, Dr. Ahmad Nazif had met with Minister El-Adili for updates on the attacks in Sinai, and to set up a plan to ensure the security of tourists.
That didn't occur to them a couple months ago, either...
The Egyptian Public Prosecution is continuing its investigation about the Dahab and Sinai attacks.
Say! How's that terrorist catch-and-release program going?
Posted by: Fred || 04/28/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That's him all over.
Posted by: Captain America || 04/28/2006 0:25 Comments || Top||

#2  look, now he'll never get his sh*t together.
Posted by: Mooftis mother || 04/28/2006 2:43 Comments || Top||

#3  "Nazif," nice name. Egypt, what a great vacation destination for the family! Arabian-occuppied Palestine children looking for more homeland.
Posted by: SamAdamsky || 04/28/2006 8:28 Comments || Top||


Egyptian authorities identify facial features of Sinai bombers
Egyptian security authorities said Thursday that they identified the features of the two suicide bombers who carried out the attack on the Multinational Forces headquarters in Sinai yesterday. The security sources told Egyptian Middle East news agency that the suicide bombers were likely to be two of the three runaways from Sharm El-Sheikh bombings case, which took place in July, 2005. According to the sources, the three Sharm El-Sheikh runaways are northern Sinai Bedouins Nasser Khamis Al-Mallahi, Eid Salama Al-Tarawi and Mohmmed Abdullah Abujareer.

The Egyptian forensic department has conducted DNA tests for the remainings of suicide bombers and the families of the suspects in attempt to prove the attackers identities with concrete evidence. The Egyptian authorities have been waiting for more forensic evidences to draw probable connections between the Dahab and Al-Jorah bombings, said the sources, noting that forensic evidences would also include method of explosion as well as type and quantity of explosives.

The Egyptian security authorities have detained about 20 of the usual suspects, mostly Sinai Bedouins related to the three escapees, to interrogate them about the latest attack.
Posted by: Fred || 04/28/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  How confident are we in the ability of the lab technicians to run the tests properly?
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/28/2006 9:46 Comments || Top||

#2  "I'd know those eyelids anywhere!"
Posted by: Seafarious || 04/28/2006 9:51 Comments || Top||


Saudi Arabia and Jordan Coordinating with Egyptian Security
Security agencies in Jordan, Egypt and Saudi Arabia are coordinating their efforts in order to trace back the terrorists' course of action, following Monday's bombing attack in Sinai's Dahab. The Egyptian security forces are exchanging intelligence information with Jordan and Saudi Arabia in an effort to reveal how the weapons and explosives were smuggled into Dahab. At least twenty four people were killed and dozens injured when three suicide bombers detonated explosive belts they were carrying on their bodies. Ten people have already been arrested according to security sources, and efforts are now focused on tracking down those behind the attack. Meanwhile, Jordan is intensifying its security measures in the coastal city of 'Aqaba, which lies only a few kilometers from Sinai.

Egypt accuses a group called Tawhid wal Jihad (Unification and holy war) of carrying out the July 2005 Sharm el-Sheikh attacks that killed some 70 people and multiple bombings further up the coast that left 34 dead in October 2004. Tawhid wal Jihad was the name of Islamic extremist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's organisation before it was renamed Al-Qaeda in Iraq in late 2004.
I doubt al-Tawhid ever went out of business. Zark and Abu Qatada established it with the aim of overthrowing the Jordanian monarchy, and it was active in Europe and the Levant before and after 9-11. It's my guess that it exists distinct from the al-Qaeda in Iraq organization and Ansar al-Islam.
Posted by: Fred || 04/28/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'm getting the feeling that Al Qaeda in Palestine would have as its objective the overthrow of not-Muslim-enough governments in Jordan, Egypt and possibly Saudi Arabia, confident that the hated Zionist entity will still be around for erasure later.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/28/2006 9:49 Comments || Top||

#2  tw, how long before those gov'ts are asking the Israelis for air cover from the Paleoqaedas? Heh.
Posted by: Seafarious || 04/28/2006 9:56 Comments || Top||

#3  They'd never ask, Seafarious. They'd just be quitely glad that those dirty little Jews handled it, while seething loudly that such dared to interfere across the borders of their betters. I'm tired of the game today, I'm afraid.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/28/2006 15:01 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Yemen to Extradite 16 Fugitives
Yemen is preparing to hand over to Saudi authorities next week 16 Saudi nationals wanted for various criminal and terrorist activities, Yemeni government officials announced yesterday. The officials told Arab News the 16 men were listed on Saudi arrest warrants sent to Yemeni security authorities under a bilateral security cooperation pact. The men had fled to Yemen over the past three months. Yemen extradited to the Kingdom 69 men last year wanted by Riyadh for alleged links to terror attacks in the Kingdom.
The Soddies can then send them to charm school and release them as reformed terrorists.
Posted by: Fred || 04/28/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:


Bangladesh
Tales from the Crossfire Gazette
Outlaw killed in encounter with RAB in Chuadanga
Apr 27: Regional leader of the outlawed Purbabanglar Communist Party (Lalpataka) and an identified terrorist was killed in an encounter with Rapid Action Battalion (RAB) at Vogail Bagady village under Alamdanga Upazila in Chuadanga district today, RAB said. The sources said, the deceased Suknal (38), son of Khalek Mondol of Vogail, wanted by police in connection with more then half a dozen of cases, including murder cases.
I'm sure his dad was very proud of him
Shuknal was arrested by a team of RAB from Elengar Beel under Gangni Upazila of Meherpur Wednesday.
"Howdy comrade, I mean, Suknal. We're going to take a little ride"
Following his confession,
"AAAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!"
RAB took him to the Vogail Bagadi area of Chuadanga where accomplices of Shuknal opened fire on RAB personnel.
Reporter must have been in a hurry, no arms cache or anything
Members of the RAB also counter fired for self defence.
"We're taking fire! Quick, shoot the prisoner before he unties himself!"

During the exchanging of fire, Shuknal received bullet injuries as he tried to escape.
"Bound feet, don't fail me.....BANG!....now"
He was shifted to a hospital where he succumbed to his injuries.
"Doctor, I couldn't make it out, what did he say?"
"Sounded like 'rosebud'"
During the drive, the RAB recovered one shutter gun along with one round bullet and one round machine gun bullet from the spot.
Posted by: Steve || 04/28/2006 09:50 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  one round bullet

I wonder if someone had a puckle gun, that uses either round or square bullets. Supposedly, square bullets hurt more.
Posted by: N guard || 04/28/2006 10:40 Comments || Top||

#2  Is it just me, or are Banglacommies a particularly murderous bunch?
Posted by: Seafarious || 04/28/2006 12:09 Comments || Top||

#3  Is it just me, or are Banglacommies a particularly murderous bunch?

Yes, which explains why they are a particularly murdered bunch.
Posted by: Steve || 04/28/2006 12:12 Comments || Top||

#4  C'mon, folks. Don't screw up the template...
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/28/2006 12:16 Comments || Top||

#5  What tu said. Trying to improve on a classic design is ever a dangerous pastime.
Posted by: 6 || 04/28/2006 16:05 Comments || Top||

#6  One round machine gun bullet?
Very odd.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 04/28/2006 19:05 Comments || Top||

#7  My 1859 whitworth rifle has hexagonal bullet.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 04/28/2006 19:15 Comments || Top||

#8  Sub-continent English. They have dropped the comma.

'One round, machine gun bullet'
Posted by: phil_b || 04/28/2006 19:27 Comments || Top||


Terrorist gunned down in Dhaka
A local terrorist was shot dead by his rivals in city''s Pallabi area Wednesday afternoon, reports UNB. Quoting witnesses police said armed assailants shot fires on Zakir Hossain Iran near Nagar Bowl Office at Mirpur Section-6 under Pallabi police station at about 3.30 pm.

Hearing sound of the firings, local people rushed to the spot and chased the killers. Later, they managed to catch one of the killers and handed him over to the police. The arrested was identified as Mizanur Rahman alias Biplob.
If he's a commie terrorist, he'll be seen soon in the Crossfire Gazette.
Iran was rushed to the Dhaka Medical College Hospital where the doctors declared him dead.
"He's dead, Jim"
On primary interrogation, Biblob confessed his involvement with the killing. Police said Iran was accused in a number of cases, including murders.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/28/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Golly! And the stout RAB lads didn't even have to get up at O-dark thirty to accomplish it. Well done indeed, lads!
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/28/2006 9:51 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
13 gunmen destroyed, 59 detained in Chechnya
Thirteen gunmen were destroyed and another 59 were detained in Chechnya during a large-scale anti-terror drill that was held in southern Russia, Commander of the Interior Troops Col.-Gen. Nikolai Rogozhkin said Thursday summing up the results of the exercises. According to him, 400 people were detained on suspicions of committing dangerous crimes for five days of the war games, 270 of them were on the wanted list, including the federal wanted list.

The general estimated the operational situation in the Southern Federal District as difficult, but stable. “The situation is under control, now we are concerned over regions adjoining Chechnya,” he said, adding that the number of bandits “does not reduce as quick as we would like to.”

The commander of the Interior Troops told journalists on April 24 that “real gunmen may be detained” during the anti-terror drill in southern Russia. “During the exercises all security services and law enforcement agencies are taking real measures, and the real results of these measures will be yielded,” Rogozhkin indicated.

The war games are held on the whole territory of the Southern Federal District, and about 32,000 people representing all law enforcement agencies are taking part in them.
Posted by: Fred || 04/28/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Europe
Turkey shells Kurdish rebel targets along border with Iraq
The Turkish armed forces stated on Thursday that the Turkish air force is shelling Kurdish rebel targets along the border with northern Iraq, resulting in the killing of many Kurdish rebels. Turkish foreign ministry spokesman Namik Tan said in a statement that "Turkey is forced to commence such operations to protect its security and to prevent terrorists from entering the country's borders" Commenting on the dissatisfaction of the Iraqi government towards the operations, Tan said "we have told the Iraqi ambassador about the security arrangements which only aim at our protection... it's a routine procedure that we take every spring." Tan said that the presence of Kurdish rebels in Iraq's northern regions makes these operations necessary and asked the Iraqi government to put an end to their activities.
Posted by: Fred || 04/28/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Turks had best be real careful which side of the border their shells land on.
Posted by: RWV || 04/28/2006 10:25 Comments || Top||

#2  it's a routine procedure that we take every spring

Says worlds about their continuing "Rebel" activities.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 04/28/2006 19:08 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Congress Members 'Arrested' at Sudan Protest
WASHINGTON -- Five Congress members were willingly arrested and led away from the Sudanese Embassy in plastic handcuffs Friday in protest of the Sudanese government's role in atrocities in the Darfur region. "The slaughter of the people of Darfur must end," Rep. Tom Lantos, D-Calif., a Holocaust survivor who founded the Congressional Human Rights Caucus, said from the embassy steps before his arrest.

Four other Democratic Congress members _ James McGovern and John Olver of Massachusetts, Sheila Jackson Lee of Texas and Jim Moran of Virginia _ were among 11 protesters arrested on charges of disorderly conduct and unlawful assembly, a misdemeanor subject to a fine. "We must hold the Sudanese government accountable for the attacks they have supported on their own citizens in Darfur," Olver said.

Dozens of demonstrators carried signs, some reading "Stop the slaughter" and "Women of Darfur suffer multiple gang rapes," in front of the embassy Friday morning. The protesters cheered as the Congress members and others were cuffed, hands behind their backs, with plastic ties and quietly led to a white police van by U.S. Secret Service uniformed officers. The arrests were expected. Lantos' office issued a news release about them in advance.
Sounds like the 'arrests' were staged, that would explain why no republicans were involved


The protesters called on the Sudanese government to accept a U.N. peacekeeping force in Darfur and allow humanitarian relief organizations full access to victims. The three-year-old conflict between rebels and government-backed militias has left at least 180,000 people dead, mostly from war-related hunger and disease, and some 2 million homeless.

President Bush on Friday renewed his call for a stronger international presence in Darfur. "The message to the Sudanese government is: We're very serious about getting this problem solved," Bush said at the White House. "We don't like it when we see women raped and brutalized. And we expect there to be a full effort by the government to protect human life and human condition." The United States has authorized more than $300 million for victims of the violence and to support peace talks.

Rallies against the violence in Darfur are planned in more than a dozen U.S. cities this weekend, including on Washington's National Mall on Sunday.
Posted by: Steve || 04/28/2006 13:21 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Lantos is a pretty serious guy on most things, esp whats genocide related. I would salute these guys for doing something to raise the visibility of this.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/28/2006 14:01 Comments || Top||

#2  Yeah, well if Olver and McGovern were there it was probably because they thought Clooney would show up to sign autographs...
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/28/2006 14:14 Comments || Top||

#3  Fine as far as it goes.

NOW can get a couple companies of Green Berets into Darfur to teach the people there how to defend themselves?
Posted by: Steve White || 04/28/2006 15:25 Comments || Top||

#4  I would salute these guys for doing something to raise the visibility of this.

Why?

What did it accomplish in the real world? More press coverage? Dunno about you, but as far as I'm concerned, there's been enough ink about Darfur -- time for some action.

But that's antithetical to Democrats, which is why they staged an arrest rather than do anything real.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/28/2006 15:53 Comments || Top||

#5  Once again, this proves that some politicians believe it's acceptable to break the law to advance an agenda or get out a message. Now tell me again why I should support any lawmaker that knowingly and willfuly disregards the law?
Posted by: DepotGuy || 04/28/2006 15:58 Comments || Top||

#6  1. Yes, publicity. Precisely. Not everyone reads RB. In fact Darfur has NOT been covered extensively enough, and is not a household word. Publicity IS required.

Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/28/2006 16:03 Comments || Top||

#7  Publicity?!? Big whoopie! What is the plan after the publicity, sending in 2 companies of Green Berets to head up A-Teams training CIDGs to fight? Mouthing off for the cameras and doing nothing else? WHAT?
This is the typical publicity masturbation engaged in by the Demos when they intend to do nothing but bitch about something! All those stinking "Free Tibet" bumperstickers really did something now, didn't they?! Unless and until the Demos actually announce a plan for successfully dealing with the Sudanese military and militias targeting the southern blacks, all they are doing is engaging in a very public circle-jerk for TV time. Which by the way, is about all the Demos are good for when it comes to actually standing up to and/or defeating evil in the world.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 04/28/2006 16:55 Comments || Top||

#8  Yawn, fools acting foolish on a Friday.
Posted by: Captain America || 04/28/2006 17:09 Comments || Top||

#9  All those stinking "Free Tibet" bumperstickers really did something now, didn't they

Today saw wagon with War Is Worthles, War Is Worthless right by a Free Tibet.

I think the FDA needs to peek into our lacka national irony.
Posted by: 6 || 04/28/2006 17:32 Comments || Top||

#10  Yes, publicity. Precisely. Not everyone reads RB. In fact Darfur has NOT been covered extensively enough, and is not a household word. Publicity IS required.

Besides, its easier than actually doing something.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/28/2006 17:46 Comments || Top||

#11  Is Sheila Jackson Lee claiming 'scrimination yet?
Posted by: Inspector Clueso || 04/28/2006 18:05 Comments || Top||

#12  Lantos and Lee?

Hot dog! Sudan can keep 'em!

Posted by: FOTSGreg || 04/28/2006 18:18 Comments || Top||

#13  1 hour publicity scene vs thousands of hours of setting up a protective force against ARAB muslim aggression and Chinese help. Which did these heroes choose?
Posted by: Frank G || 04/28/2006 18:54 Comments || Top||

#14  I'll give these Congresscritters the benefit of the dought here. Darfur has not been in the MSM crosshairs and the rest of Congress doesn't seem to know Darfur exists. SOMETHING had to be done to draw attention. I don't think it will work but at least they actually went there.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 04/28/2006 19:21 Comments || Top||

#15  God forbid they should give a rational talk in order to draw attention to something. No, gotta make asses of themselves.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/28/2006 20:02 Comments || Top||

#16  Two from Mass - we're just running up the score...
Posted by: Raj || 04/28/2006 20:09 Comments || Top||

#17  Sudan can't buy them off, can't threaten them, and is both politically unpalatable and public-relations inept.

It's a safe cause to back.
Posted by: Pappy || 04/28/2006 21:21 Comments || Top||


Nation of Aztlan on alert
Michelle Malkin has received, via a tipster, a bizarre message from the radical ethnic separatists of La Voz de Aztlan.
From: la-voz-de-aztlan-admin@aztlan.net To: la-voz-de-aztlan@aztlan.net Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2006 20:27:37 -0700 Subject: [La Voz de Aztlan] URGENT ALERT: From The Revolutionary Council and Provisional Government of Aztlan
Dear La Voz de Aztlan Subscribers:

We have received the following communique from the
Minister of Information of the Nation of Aztlan. We rarely
receive any communiques from the "Revolutionary Council
and Provisional Government of Aztlan" so we must assume
that it is of upmost importance. We urge that you carefully
consider the information that it contains. Please pass this
to others in your network!
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

URGENT ALERT: From The Revolutionary Council and
Provisional Government of Aztlan

April 26, 2006

Estimada Raza de Aztlan and Beyond,

Our Director of Special Intelligence Services has brought
to our attention disturbing information that threatens the
safety of our families. This information requires that we
prepare a defense strategy to protect our communities.

Due to the recent large demonstrations of our people in
major cities in occupied Anahuac, extremist European
invaders are preparing violent actions against us.
They are expected to use physical violence in the upcoming
marches and rallies planned for May 1, 2006 and we must
take steps to protect our families.

The Director of Special Intelligence Services has reliable
information that anti-Mexican forces in Aztlan and in
certain other area of Anahuac, are preparing to utilize
explosives and snipers to kill our people. We urge our
community to arm themselves to protect our families. We
are also urging our soldiers presently serving In Iraq,
Afghanistan and other foreign lands to do everything
possible to return home and fight for your own. The
situation here is critical.

In addition, all political prisoners shall be in constant
alert and ready for action. Also, youth groups in our
barrios shall call truces and direct their energies against
the racist enemy that has vowed to annihilate our families.

Our Prime Minister is instructing every able bodied male to
arm himself to protect the women and children in his home.
We can not depend on local White law enforcement
authorities because in many cases they will join the
criminal elements and participate in the slaughter of our
people. Make sure you have weapons and plenty of
ammunition in your homes at the ready.

Criminal racist elements have already made death threats
against certain "occupation administrators" and they will
not stop at killing our civilians. We hope that the
massacres of Mexicans that the White criminals have vowed
to undertake are just the rantings of cowardly insane minds
but we must take these threats seriously.

Cuauhtli
Minister of Information
Nation of Aztlan
La Voz de Aztlan

Occupied Anahuac includes the colonial nations of Canada, U.S., Mexico (also controlled by Europeans), and "Central America" (down to include "Costa Rica", which are also controlled by Europeans). It sez so right here, so it must be true. Read down to find the obligitory Haliburton/Cheney consentration camp link.
Posted by: Steve || 04/28/2006 11:16 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Prozac and Straight Jackets are needed ASAP for these nuts.
Posted by: 3dc || 04/28/2006 11:40 Comments || Top||

#2  Looks like a shipment of the real good weed arrived in Aztlan recently.
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/28/2006 11:42 Comments || Top||

#3  WSJ has an article today that a rumor is running rampant in the illegal community that the ICE (nee INS) is conducting random arrests of illegals. As a result there are increased absences/no shows at schools, health clinics, day laborer lines and at workplaces that employ illegals. The origin of the rumor is unclear. They should look at the MOI's press releases.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 04/28/2006 11:46 Comments || Top||

#4  End the Aztlan aparthied! They control a massive amount of land and refuse to have elections that include the majority of the population within their terrotory. Down with dictators! Down with racist sepratists! Down with Aztlan!
Posted by: rjschwarz || 04/28/2006 11:58 Comments || Top||

#5  To the barrios barricades!
Posted by: Seafarious || 04/28/2006 12:16 Comments || Top||

#6  We're coming to take you away, HAHA!
We're coming to take you away, HOHO!
Posted by: DarthVader || 04/28/2006 12:26 Comments || Top||

#7  Round 'em up and shove 'em over the border. Green cards? Tough, you can walk back later.

Any armed thugs to be fired upon without warning.
Posted by: mojo || 04/28/2006 12:26 Comments || Top||

#8  If this was close to ligit, wouldn't it be in spanish?
Posted by: DoDo || 04/28/2006 12:35 Comments || Top||

#9  Probably bi-lingual, but Michelle's readers aren't. This kind of thing is probably a lot more appealing to romantics of the second and third generation immigrants than to the working illegals whose greatest fear is deportation back to Mexico. Many of the second and especially third generation only know English, just like every other immigrant group.

It's not Achmed the camel driver who leads the Islamic terrorists, but the educated classes who have been to college.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 04/28/2006 12:44 Comments || Top||

#10  Cuauhtli makes 'bout as much sense as Looie Farakhan. I wonder if his mothership is orbiting behind the moon as well.
Posted by: GK || 04/28/2006 13:30 Comments || Top||

#11  Somebody call George Clooney quick!!! He'll go help!!
Posted by: ARMYGUY || 04/28/2006 13:38 Comments || Top||

#12  (Mexican national anthem in English)
(sounds like something written by a Jihadi)

Mexicans, at the cry of battle
prepare your swords and bridle;
and let the earth tremble at its center
at the roar of the cannon.

Oh fatherland
Your forehead shall be girded with olive garlands,
by the divine archangel of peace
For in heaven your eternal destiny
has been written by the hand of God.

But should a foreign enemy dare to
profane your land with his sole,
Think, beloved fatherland, that heaven
gave you a soldier in each son.

War, war without truce against who would attempt
to blemish the honor of the fatherland!

War, war! The patriotic banners
drench in waves of blood.

War, war! On the mount, in the valley
The terrifying thunder of the cannon

And the echoes nobly resound to the cries of Union! Liberty!

Fatherland, before your children

Become unarmed
Beneath the yoke their necks in sway,

And your countryside be watered with blood,
On blood their feet trample.

And may your temples, palaces and towers
crumble in horrid crash, and ruins remain
saying: The fatherland was made of one thousand heroes.

Fatherland, fatherland, your children swear
to exhale their breath in your cause,
If the bugle in its belligerent tone
should call upon them to struggle with bravery.

For you the olive garlands!

For them a memory of glory!

For you a laurel of victory!

For them a tomb of honor!
Posted by: Anonymoose || 04/28/2006 14:30 Comments || Top||

#13  So I went to the link Steve put at the bottom of the post.

These people are nuts. Really, truly, completely nuts.

Just so y'all know.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/28/2006 15:25 Comments || Top||

#14  Thisn where your Halls of Montezume comes in...
Posted by: 6 || 04/28/2006 16:15 Comments || Top||

#15  Why does it sound so familiar?
Posted by: gromgoru || 04/28/2006 20:52 Comments || Top||

#16  No surprise here - as said/posted before, WOT for the Failed Left and Anti-American agendists > inducing = forcing knowingly failed and failing LeftSocialism-Communism, OWG and Socialist-Commie World order on unsuspecting, free democratic America, by any and all means necessary, legal and illegal, moral and immoral, etc.. Between now and 2015-2020, the same will resort to wilful domestic destabilization and sectarianism/
factionalism to PC frighten and intimidate Americans. Iff America is NOT under [Leftism-Marxism]Socialism and OWG 2015-2020, the Left and anti-American agendists reserve their unilateral and unconditional right to use any means or form of violence, including mutually destructive global nuke war, to achieve its goals, even it means to militarily destroy America. FOR NOW, THE LEFTIES, SOCIALISTS, ANARCHISTS, and other Radicals/Extremists WANT REVOLUTION AND ANARCHY IN AMERICA BUT NOT TO DESTROY AMERICA - AFTER 2015-202O = ALL BETS ARE OFF. UNLIKE MADMOUD AND HIS APOCALYPSO, THE LEFTIES GIVE A DAMN ABOUT WHO GETS THE BLAME FOR WHAT/ANYTHING. The Left = Illegals > are fighting for their right and privelege to stay permanently illegal and permanently welfarized on public aid, where the legal/lawful, i.e. the Many =Masses, permanently take care of the permanently illegal-unlawful, i.e. the Few - you know, Universal Equalism and anti-materialist/anti-property Utopianism. AZTLAN = TAIWAN = ATTACKING WHERE AMERICAN-WESTERN FORCES ARE NOT [see Radical Islam beloved CANADA-ALCAN]
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 04/28/2006 21:51 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Sharbi sez he done it during Gitmo tribunal
GUANTANAMO BAY US NAVAL BASE, Cuba - An Al Qaeda suspect told a US military tribunal that he had fought against the United States and said on Thursday he was willing to spend the rest of his life in prison as a “matter of honor.”
We can arrange that.
“I came here to tell you I did what I did and I’m willing to pay the price, no matter how many years you sentence me,” said Ghassan Abdullah al Sharbi, a US-educated Saudi who allegedly met Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden at a training camp in Afghanistan months before the Sept. 11 attacks. “Even if I spend hundreds of years in jail, that would be a matter of honor to me,” he said.

Sporting long dark hair and a beard, Sharbi appeared at a pretrial tribunal hearing near the US prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. “I fought the United States,” Sharbi told the hearing’s presiding officer, Navy Capt. Daniel O’Toole. “I’m going to make it short and easy for you guys: I’m proud of what I did and there isn’t any reason of hiding.”

But Sharbi eschewed the notion that he was “guilty” of wrongdoing and politely said he wanted to represent himself at the tribunal. He firmly rejected his appointed military defense lawyer, Navy Lt. William Kuebler, and said he wanted neither a military replacement nor a civilian defender. “It’s the same circus, different clown,” said Sharbi, a fluent English speaker who earned an electrical engineering degree at Embry Riddle Aeronautical University in Arizona before leaving the United States for Afghanistan in 2000.

O’Toole tried to order Kuebler to remain Sharbi’s lawyer, citing the detainee’s ignorance of military judicial rules. But Kuebler told the presiding officer that state legal authorities in California had advised him it would be unethical to represent an unwilling client. O’Toole then cut short the proceedings and set a May 17 hearing to consider the ethics issues raised by Kuebler.
What ethical issue? He says he did it. Case closed. Next!
Sharbi appeared before O’Toole in the beige garb of a detainee classed as “compliant” and refused the presiding officer’s advice to wear civilian clothes to avoid prejudicing his case. “I want to wear the same suit I have been wearing for four years. In fact, I miss my orange suit,” said Sharbi, referring to the orange uniforms worn by “noncompliant” prisoners among the 490 detainees at Guantanamo.

Military documents allege that Sharbi was introduced to bin Laden in July 2001 at Al Qaeda’s al Farouq training camp in Afghanistan, where he underwent basic training, stood guard and kept watch for US air strikes after the Sept. 11 attacks.

He was moved by former Al Qaeda operations director Abu Zubaydah to a safe house in Faisalabad, Pakistan, for training in the construction of electronic detonators later used in car bomb attacks on US forces in Afghanistan, the military says. Sharbi, Barhoumi, Qahtani and Zubaydah were captured there together in March 2002, military documents say.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/28/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  “Even if I spend hundreds of years in jail, that would be a matter of honor to me,” he said.

Sounds like an optimist...
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/28/2006 12:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Try to turn the guy.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 04/28/2006 12:25 Comments || Top||

#3  Try to turn the guy.
Naah, this piece of filth has no loyalty to anything but himself and his "glory". The best thing to do is to SAY we turned him, then let him go in Iran or Wazoostan.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 04/28/2006 13:44 Comments || Top||

#4  Ethics?
Me thinks the most ethical solution is to troll for alligators with him......or sharks........or piranhas.........tigers even.
How's about doing what the Paleos do? Drug him up, strap a little C-4 on his sorry butt and send him to have tea with some local bad guys in Ramadi?
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 04/28/2006 19:48 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Police kill nine suspected Maoists
HYDERABAD- Police shot and killed nine suspected communist rebels after a fierce gunbattle Friday in a densely forested area of the southern Indian state of Andhra Pradesh, an official said. Police had launched search operations early Friday after receiving a tip that a group of rebels were hiding in the forests in Kadapa district of the state, when the militants opened fire, said Y. Nagi Reddy, a local superintendent of police. A three hour long gunbattle followed in which at least nine rebels, including six women, were killed, Reddy said.

Those killed have not yet been identified, but police believe they were members of the Communist Party of India (Maoist), Reddy said, adding that police had received information that senior leaders of the party were gathering in the forest. Police have retrieved a large amount of arms and ammunition from the area when the rebels fled deeper into the forests. Additional paramilitary soldiers were being sent to the area to nab the rebels, he said.

The rebels, who claim to be inspired by Chinese revolutionary Mao Zedong, have been fighting for more than two decades, demanding land and jobs for agricultural laborers and the poor. In the past the rebels have often targeted police and government officials, whom they accuse of colluding with landlords and rich farmers to exploit the poor.
Posted by: Steve || 04/28/2006 08:58 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1 

Hyderabad,India April 28 : Police gunned down nine Maoist guerrillas, including six women, in Andhra Pradesh's Rayalaseema region in a major gun battle early Friday.

The gun battle in Sunnepalle forests on the Chittoor district border, about 500 km south of here, occurred during combing operations by a police team.

The Maoists, who were holding a training camp there, allegedly opened fire when police surrounded them and ordered them to surrender. Police returned the fire in the nearly hour-long gun battle, which began around 6.30 a.m.

The bodies of nine guerrillas, including of six women, were recovered later and also a large cache of arms and ammunition. The police did not suffer any casualties.

The slain Maoists are yet to be identified, but police claim among them are some top leaders of the outlawed Communist Party of India-Maoist. Police recovered one 303 rifle, three self loading rifles, one sten gun, 38 rockets, claymore mines, time bomb, 25 kit bags and tents from the encounter scene.

This is the first time in recent months that such a large number of Maoists were gunned down. More than 350 people have been killed in Maoist-related violence since January last year when the eight-month-long ceasefire broke down. Maoist violence in the state has claimed more than 6,000 lives in the last 37 years.
Posted by: john || 04/28/2006 15:49 Comments || Top||

#2  About time the Indians started killing the scum infesting their provinces. Now, if they will just back-door a bunch of equipment to the Royal Nepalese Army so they can fight the Nepal branch of the Maoists.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 04/28/2006 16:59 Comments || Top||

#3  When are they going to kill REAL Maoists instead of just suspected ones?
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 04/28/2006 19:23 Comments || Top||


Taliban leader vows jihad against US, UK
A Pakistani Taliban but we repeat ourselves leader vowed as only a Moose-limb holy man can on Thursday to wage an unrelenting when circumstances permit holy in the name of Allan™ war against US and British troops in North Pashtunistan Afghanistan from his secret lair stronghold in South Pashtunistan Pakistan's tribal lands. Speaking by satellite telephone with complete and utter safety from South Wazoo Waziristan, where his tattered and beaten forces have gathered strength from squad to platoon size in recent months, Haji Omar denied harbouring Al Qaeda members no, no, certainly not!, but said he was organising terrorist attacks inside the neighboring sovereign country of Afghanistan. "There is no Al Qaeda here. There is only ... the Taliban of Waziristan," Omar said as he reattached his lips. "We do send hard boyz mujahideen to Afghanistan. We send cannon fodder mujahideen to areas where American and British troops are concentrated ... we will continue our jihad against them even though they're killing us. It is our religious obligation so help us Allan."
I've been pointing out for awhile that a goodly proportion of Afghanistan's "Taliban" have in fact been Paks. The Afghans have been doing the same thing, though the Americans haven't been pushing the issue, perhaps out of politeness toward Perv. Heren's an open admission of it that the Paks will deny or ignore.

If the U.S. wants it to be, this can be a very stoopid move on the part of the Wazoos, since with an open declaration like this we've got every right to swarm across the border and kick the snot out of them when we chase them back home. This appears to be happening with the recent increase in the number of shellings across the border and the occasional air zap. Here's hoping it's followed by significant air and, if required, ground action. These are the guys who're the root of the Afghans problems and there's no way we should allow them a safe haven.
Posted by: Fred || 04/28/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Give them another earthquake - they're obviously bored.
Posted by: Howard UK || 04/28/2006 7:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Iran first.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 04/28/2006 7:50 Comments || Top||

#3  Fred is right. We need to deny these Talib-Paks a base. We have been patient, but these guys will set back all the progress that we have made in Afghanistan. They need a wack. It seems the only way that we can communicate with them. So the Paks seethe. It's what they do best.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 04/28/2006 10:56 Comments || Top||

#4  Send 3 AC-130s every night in a slow sweeping arc across South Waziristan.

Just like in this video "AC-130 gunship mission in Afghanistan" on the Militaryvideos.net bittorrent serving web site.
Posted by: 3dc || 04/28/2006 12:05 Comments || Top||

#5  Ol' Pervez better get a cracka-lackin' on this or else we might just have to shoot over a whole month's worth of fireworks.
Posted by: Perfesser || 04/28/2006 16:36 Comments || Top||


Pro-Taliban tribes unite to challenge Pakistan Army in North Waziristan
Pro-Taliban tribes in North Waziristan have buried ancient feuds and joined forces to fight the army, posing a new threat to President General Pervez Musharraf’s anti-militant drive, analysts and officials have said. Up to 5,000 tribesmen are launching near-daily rocket and bomb attacks on military bases and convoys in the tribal belt bordering Afghanistan, while the headless bodies of alleged US spies are dumped on the streets, they said.
This is it. This is the blow-off, the logical extension of all the pointless maneuverings and face-saving measures with the local jirgas and the tribal lashkars. Perv is being backed against the wall, and he's either going to have to do something or see the Wazoos set up shop on their own.
Brought together by religion and their hatred of Musharraf’s ties to Washington, the tribes are stepping up their defiance of military efforts to control the region and flush out foreign Al Qaeda suspects, they added.
I don't have much confidence in the Heroic Pakistani Army™, which has never actually won a war despite the number of medals sported by the generals, being able to control the situation.
Local sources said that the prolonged military campaign has resulted in Wazir tribesmen linking hands with their long-term rivals, the Dawar tribe, to protect their joint independence. The two firebrand clerics – Abdul Khaleq and Sadiq Noor - identified by the military as being behind the current resistance are both from the Dawar clan and are commanding members of their rival Wazir clan, the sources said. A former security official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said that between 3,000 and 5,000 people had joined the local Taliban.
Many of them were running around thumping drums as part of the tribal lashkars a year or two ago.
Military spokesman Major General Shaukat Sultan,
... the very model of a modern major general...
while stressing that the army was only employing force as a last resort, acknowledged that the use of force “does result in the army taking more casualties but our effort is to prevent collateral damage and we avoid using big force”.
I suspect — strongly — that he's afraid of taking the casualties. Well-trained and well-disciplined armies keep collateral damage to a minimum. They also routinely defeat gangs of eye-rolling, face-making bully boyz, regardless of how fearsomely the brandish their weaponry.
He admitted that the situation was “not that good” but stressed that the problem lay with militants from Afghanistan, along with some locals, who wanted to use the region to launch attacks on coalition troops across the border.
He's still denying that Wazoo and Bajaur are the heart of the Taliban country.
Posted by: Fred || 04/28/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  In Iraq it would be called a civil war!
Posted by: SwissTex || 04/28/2006 9:16 Comments || Top||

#2  The burying-ancient-feuds thing doesn't come spontaneously, or cheap. Who is paying the blood money for all this newfound bonhomie?
Posted by: Seafarious || 04/28/2006 9:24 Comments || Top||

#3  swiss

yup Pakistan IS in a civil war. But how comforting is that?
Posted by: liberalhawk || 04/28/2006 9:27 Comments || Top||

#4  Wazoo is a Quagmire™.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 04/28/2006 10:58 Comments || Top||

#5  What's the ISI's role in this?
Posted by: Spot || 04/28/2006 10:59 Comments || Top||

#6  Musharraf: "I'm going up the wazoo!"

Aide: "Mr President, that's 'up TO Wazoo' "

Musharraf: "That's what I said, dammit!"
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 04/28/2006 11:07 Comments || Top||


Iraq
AQ Tries to ID and Kill Saddam Trial Witnesses
The al-Qaeda terrorist group has attempted to bribe Fijian guards at Saddam Hussein's trial into identifying witnesses so they could be killed, a Fiji newspaper has reported.

A Fijian guard attached to the US Marshalls told the Fiji Times he and four others had been offered $F3.48 million ($A2.65 million) for information which led to the death of the witnesses.

Josevata Tuisavalu said al-Qaeda operatives contacted the Fijian guards to make the bribe attempt, which was rejected.

"Our work here involves security for the witnesses against Saddam and also defence lawyers, judge and translators," the paper reports Tuisavalu as saying.

"During trial the witnesses faces are covered and their voices are made to echo.

"The al-Qaeda offered us $F3.48 million for the death of any of the witnesses but we are not easily tempted."

Tuisavalu said the Fijian guards protected close to 50 people involved in the trial of the former Iraqi dictator.

"We are the only one allowed up at the court house and have the privilege of (being) face to face with Saddam," he said.

Posted by: Captain America || 04/28/2006 18:48 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hat tip: Securitywatchtower.com
Posted by: Captain America || 04/28/2006 18:51 Comments || Top||

#2  Fijian guards - excellent choice. didn't know they were onsite.
Posted by: Thinemp Whimble2412 || 04/28/2006 18:58 Comments || Top||

#3  sting: "ShowMeTheMoney!"
Posted by: Frank G || 04/28/2006 19:33 Comments || Top||

#4  Fiji Guards?
Bad bad bad dudes, don't screw with 'em.
I bet the AQ guys knew to speak with a lot of polite nodding and smiling........or else.

Hey how about some Gurkas?? We could solve a lot of terrorism letting them loose in the neighborhood at night.....sorta like having a doberman for a yard dog.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 04/28/2006 19:34 Comments || Top||

#5  Why didn't they capture the person trying to bribe them?
Posted by: Danking70 || 04/28/2006 21:57 Comments || Top||

#6  "Why didn't they capture the person trying to bribe them?"

Well, left unsaid, is that they did. And ate him. Went pretty good with KC Masterpiece, according to sources. But you know how provincial people are nowadays so they were advised to leave that bit out.
Posted by: Ulomons Snugum3975 || 04/28/2006 22:15 Comments || Top||


3 Insurgents, U.S. Soldier Killed in Iraq
Iraqi forces killed a local al-Qaida in Iraq leader and two other insurgents in a raid north of Baghdad on Friday, and roadside bombs killed an American soldier and an Iraqi policeman, officials said. The death toll in two days of fighting around Baqouba climbed to 58, including seven Iraqi soldiers, Maj. Gen. Ahmed al-Awad said. Provincial police chief Maj. Ghassan al-Bawi said troops and police were on the streets of Baqouba, 35 miles northeast of Baghdad, on Friday and roads to the city were closed because of fears the insurgents might regroup and launch more attacks.

Iraqi commando forces, acting on a tip, raided a house where Hamid al-Takhi, the local al-Qaida in Iraq leader, and the two other insurgents were hiding just outside Samarra, 60 miles north of Baghdad, said police Capt. Laith Mohammed. Al-Takhi, known as the 'emir' of Samarra, was gunned down while fleeing the house, and the other two militants while trying to defend it with grenades, the U.S. military said. After they were killed, the Iraqi troops found a car parked nearby containing a grenade launcher, rockets, AK-47s, grenades, and a shotgun, the U.S. military said.

Mohammed said al-Takhi had been responsible for many insurgent attacks against coalition forces and civilians in the area. Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the leader of al-Qaida in Iraq - the country's most feared insurgent group - appeared in a video earlier this week trying to rally Sunni Arabs to fight Iraq's new government and denouncing Sunnis who cooperate with it as 'agents' of the Americans.

Also Friday, two mortars or rockets were fired at downtown Baghdad's heavily fortified Green Zone, where Iraq's government meets and the U.S. Embassy is located. One landed inside the zone but failed to detonate, while the other exploded nearby on the other side of the Tigris River, the U.S. military said. No casualties were immediately reported.

The American soldier was killed by a roadside bomb that hit a military vehicle north of Baghdad, the U.S. military said Friday. The bombing Thursday raised to at least 2,397 the number of members of the U.S. military who have died since the beginning of the Iraq war in March 2003, according to an Associated Press count.

On Friday, the weekly day of worship in mostly Muslim Iraq, a roadside bomb targeting an Iraqi police patrol exploded in southwestern Baghdad at 8:20 a.m., killing one policeman and wounding two, said police Capt. Jamil Hussein. Around the same time, police found the corpses of two middle-aged Iraqi men in a mostly Sunni Arab neighborhood of western Baghdad, Hussein said. The men, handcuffed, blindfolded and bullet-ridden, appeared to be the latest victims of a wave of kidnappings and killings by Sunni and Shiite death squads that target civilians.

New information also emerged about an unusual series of coordinated attacks by insurgents on Thursday in and around Baqouba, 35 miles northeast of Baghdad.
Using mortar rounds, rocket-propelled grenades and small arms fire, the insurgents attacked five police checkpoints, a police station and an Iraqi army headquarters, Iraqi and U.S. officials said. Clashes and raids continued through the night, Iraqi officials said. In addition to the seven Iraqi soldiers, Ahmed said 49 insurgents were killed and 74 others were arrested. U.S. officials said two civilians were killed and the wounded included 10 Iraqi soldiers, four policemen and four civilians.
Posted by: Steve || 04/28/2006 09:28 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


AIF Routed After Attacks on Iraqi Security Forces in Baqubah
The story sounds a lot different this way than it did on the radio (Fox News!) - more like an AIF defeat than a big victory.
4/28/2006

MULTI-NATIONAL DIVISION - NORTH
101ST AIRBORNE DIVISION (AIR ASSAULT)
TIKRIT, IRAQ (FOB SPEICHER)

TIKRIT, Iraq – Iraqi security forces quickly responded to a series of attacks April 27 in Baqubah in the eastern Diyala Province, leaving 21 anti-Iraqi forces dead and capturing 43. The attacks began in southern Baqubah in the afternoon when the Buhriz police station and five police checkpoints were simultaneously attacked with mortar rounds, rocket-propelled grenades and small arms fire. Iraqi Soldiers and police killed 17 AIF and detained 28 responsible for the attacks. One Iraqi Soldier was killed and two were wounded. Four Iraqi police were wounded.

In Dali Abbas, the 3rd Brigade, 5th Iraqi Army Headquarters was reportedly attacked by more than 100 terrorists with mortar rounds, RPGs and small arms fire. The Soldiers returned fire, killing four AIF and detaining 15. Six Iraqi Soldiers died and eight were wounded. Two civilians were also killed and four were wounded during the attack on the 3-5th Headquarters.

Diyala police forces and 5th Iraqi Army quickly reacted to these attacks and have secured the city of Baqubah and surrounding areas. The governor enacted a province-wide curfew.
Posted by: Glenmore || 04/28/2006 08:02 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  looks like the AIF killed about a dozen Iraqis in an offensive, then got caught by Iraqi forces. Looks like a fairly big battle shaping up.

Bad news: AIF are still organized enough to launch a battle this big
Good news: when they do, theyre shot down, and this time by Iraqi forces.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 04/28/2006 9:37 Comments || Top||

#2  How very sad for them -- to die, identified not even so much as Anti-Iraqi Forces, but merely as a number of AIF bodies. Not long ago they were making victory announcements in the name of the various branches of the Lions of Islam, now they are amalgamated into a hard to remember descriptive acronym.

Ah, for the romance of yesterweek!
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/28/2006 10:03 Comments || Top||

#3  Good point trailing wife. Is it just me,or have the MSM been writing more lateley like we are winning. Not alot mind you, but more often.
Posted by: plainslow || 04/28/2006 10:33 Comments || Top||

#4  this is a centcom press release. Govt documents are always full of abbreviations. If the DoD using pentagonese is a sign of victory, well.....
Posted by: liberalhawk || 04/28/2006 10:44 Comments || Top||


Gunmen Kill Sister of Iraq's Sunni VP
BAGHDAD, Iraq — A sister of Iraq's new Sunni Arab vice president was killed Thursday in a drive-by shooting in Baghdad, a day after the politician called for the Sunni-dominated insurgency to be crushed by force.

Mayson Ahmed Bakir al-Hashimi, 60, whose brother, Tariq al-Hashimi, was appointed by parliament as vice president Saturday, was killed by gunmen in a sedan as she left her southwestern Baghdad home with her bodyguard, said police Capt. Jamel Hussein. The bodyguard also died.
The rat bastards go after the softest targets.
It was the second recent killing in Tariq al-Hashimi's immediate family. On April 13, his brother, Mahmoud al-Hashimi, was shot while driving in a mostly Shiite area of eastern Baghdad.

Mayson al-Hashimi had worked on the government's audit commission and was married with two grown children. The television station Baghdad, owned by the vice president's Iraqi Islamic Party, showed family photos of her wearing an orange headscarf and footage of her bullet-riddled white SUV, while playing mournful music.

"What astonished us is that they targeted a woman. This shows how wicked the attackers are," Ziyad al-Ani, a senior official in the Iraqi Islamic Party, told The Associated Press. He said the killings "by the enemies of Iraq" will fail in their goal of driving al-Hashimi and his party from government.
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Al-Zarqawi video 'act of desperation'
The appearance of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi in a Web video is "an act of desperation," according to a U.S. military official. Maj. Gen. Rick Lynch, at his weekly press briefing on Thursday, said the military believes "that is indeed Zarqawi in his final hours."
I'd be a lot happier if Zark's last hours had been sometime last year. Or the year before that.
"He knows the people of Iraq are on the verge of foming a national unity government and democracy equals failure for Zarqawi. So he's pulling out all stops."

Al-Zarqawi showed up Tuesday in a Web site video defending the insurgent fight, exhorting his followers to keep the faith, urging unity among fighters, and mocking the U.S.-led effort in Iraq. Lynch said the al Qaeda in Iraq leader showed his face for the first time since March 2004. In the Tuesday video, Lynch noted, al-Zarqawi said "you've got to stop the democratic progress. Anybody that enrolls or joins the police, the army, we've got to kill."

"So he is indeed on the verge failure and the people of Iraq are on the verge of forming a national unity government."

The military official underscored progress in Iraq on both the political and military fronts. He cited the latest political developments, the filling of top posts in the new government and the designation of Shiite Muslim politicians Nuri al-Maliki as prime minister. He said al-Zarqawi and his allies have the most to lose as Iraq gets close to solidifying its government. Al-Maliki is charged with putting together a new government by filling a slew of Cabinet positions and must present the list to parliament for its approval by around May 21.

He said attacks like the string of car bombings on Monday in Baghdad are efforts by al-Zarqawi and his allies to "surge." Coalition and Iraqi troops are making inroads in their battles, Lynch maintained. There are 19,000 Iraqi troops conducting operations in Anbar province. In October 2004, there were none and March 2005 there were just nearly a few thousand operating in the vast province. This is where U.S. and Iraqi forces have been fighting militants who have entered Iraq from Syria and created bases in Euphrates River valley towns

Lynch mentioned Operation Scales of Justice, the beefed-up presence of forces in Baghdad that started in the middle of the last month. More than 1,000 insurgent suspects and more than 100 weapons caches have been found during that time and the operation has led to decreased violence in Iraq. He said troops were making progress finding and clearing improvised explosive devices because the more battle-hardened, savvy insurgents in this area are being arrested. More inexperienced personnel are attempting to make and emplace bombs.
Posted by: Oztralian || 04/28/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  must say i pretty much agree with it being Zarks last plee for help - things arnt going to smooth at all and i think they've finally realised its to late , things have moved on too far and all the bombs in the world cant change that now - infact only make it tougher. Zark you lost!
Posted by: ShepUK || 04/28/2006 7:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Could we publish a counter-propaganda video of Maj. Gen. Rick Lynch? display some of the top hardware used to kill Islamofascists, maybe include a few sniper shots too. As well as our women soldiers and Iraqi troops.

We need footage of the winning team. Use classical music and jazz. Maybe Ode to Joy and What a wonderful world. We love life and we'll prevail. Video technology is Western, we should be using it to the max.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 04/28/2006 7:54 Comments || Top||

#3  and he's let himself slip.
Posted by: Howard UK || 04/28/2006 7:54 Comments || Top||

#4  Good idea Kalle. Once again the media capital of the world is losing the battle.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 04/28/2006 9:04 Comments || Top||

#5  "Once again the media capital of the world is losing the battle."

NS you're more right than you think here. The media capital IS losing and they're not happy about it. Hence no pro-American footage.
Posted by: AlanC || 04/28/2006 9:32 Comments || Top||

#6  Zark's video needed more 'cowbell'.....
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 04/28/2006 12:26 Comments || Top||

#7  Kalle,
I vote for an instrumental of 'Veterans of the Psychic Wars' on the soundtrack.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 04/28/2006 18:56 Comments || Top||

#8  nope - Red and Black or Godzilla to excite the Japanese
Posted by: Buck Dharma || 04/28/2006 19:37 Comments || Top||

#9  I Agree - with food and work riots spreading, MadMoud and the Mullahs have to intensify or shorten the lead times for their agendas vv the prelimin dev and acquisition of nuclear weapons, before their economy goes the way of famine-stricken Commie North Korea and almost-hungry Commie Cuba. China is also starting to feel it.
*"you have to stop the democratic process...anybody...joins the police and army, we've got to kill" - shows AGAIN that the Radics are in reality fighting for more ABsolutism, more Totalitarianism, more Repression, Regression, and Primitivity, etc. NOT DEMOCRACY, NOR LIBERTARIANISM-PLURALISM, NOR SOVEREIGNTY, NOR LAISSEZ FAIRE, NOR UTOPIA, NOR ..........NOT EVEN FOR GOD.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 04/28/2006 22:02 Comments || Top||


13 deaths in insurgent attacks on Iraqi security forces
Up to 11 members of the Iraqi army and police as well as two citizens were killed Thursday during organized assaults on Iraqi security check points and army headquarters in Dayali province in northern Baghdad, said a security source. The source told KUNA that terrorist groups launched organized attacks on Iraqi police check points and army headquarters in Baqubah north west of Baghdad.

The source said that assaults injured six persons and caused the death of 11 policemen and soldiers in addition to two citizens. The assaults also targeted the national police and army headquarters in the southern and northern parts of the city, said the source without verifying the number of attackers.
Posted by: Fred || 04/28/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I wonder if this is the same story I heard on the car radio a few minutes ago - assaults by elements of 100 insurgents. Don't IA and police have our phone number? Large, organized forces like that make unusually good 'targets' for our air assets.
Posted by: Glenmore || 04/28/2006 7:12 Comments || Top||

#2  It sounds like it, of course they left out the part about the Iraqi army counterattack.
Posted by: Steve || 04/28/2006 10:21 Comments || Top||


Iraqi forces kill 49 gunmen, arrest another 74
Iraqi forces killed 49 gunmen and arrested another 74 in the eastern Iraqi province of Dyali, said Thursday Iraqi army Major General Ahmad Al-Awad. Al-Awad said that Iraqi soldiers carried out an operation in retaliation to gunmen's attacks against Iraqi police and army locations. Al-Awad noted the Iraqi forces were still chasing other gunmen. At least 13 Iraqis, including two civilians, were killed yesterday in insurgent operations against Iraqi police and Army locations.
It's good to see the Iraqis doing the heavy lifting here. They're now capable of it, and in some respects they're better suited to the work than the Americans.
Posted by: Fred || 04/28/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The identity of the "gunmen" would be helpful.
Posted by: gromgoru || 04/28/2006 3:07 Comments || Top||

#2  Good, good, they will be trained well enough to turn on us soon.
Posted by: Uniting Shirt9124 || 04/28/2006 9:39 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Debka: Zarqawi Orders Hit On Top 4 Fatah Leaders
Friday night, April 28, the al Qaeda cell announced they are waiting for the final signal to execute the order they received in mid-week to "revive the traditional sacrifice of apostates" against four Palestinian targets.

They are identified as Fatah followers of Mahmoud Abbas: former interior minister and Gaza strongman Muhammad Dahlan, prominent West Bank figure Yasser Abd Rabbo, deputy chief of Gaza’s Preventive Security Service Samir Mashrawi, and Abu Ali Shihin, an old Yasser Arafat crony from Rafah.

The statement is signed "Al Tawhid al Jihad of the Levant and Egypt," the group which took responsibility for the Sharm el-Sheikh bombing attacks on July 23, 2005, the Katyusha rocket attacks on US ships and the Israeli port of Eilat a month later, the bombing attacks on Amman hotels on Nov. 9, 2005 and the rocket strike against N. Israel from Lebanon on Jan. 5, 2006.

The same group has also claimed this week’s suicide attacks against the Sinai resort of Dahab in which at least 34 people lost their lives.

The personal videotape released by al Qaeda’s Iraq commander, Abu Musab al Zarqawi, on April 27, contained a specific threat to attack Israel. DEBKAfile reported then that the tape portended further terrorist action in view of the Iraq-based terrorist’s marked predilection for serial strikes.
Only Orville Redenbacker can save us now!
Posted by: Anonymoose || 04/28/2006 21:15 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Popcorn.
Posted by: gromgoru || 04/28/2006 21:50 Comments || Top||

#2  Which way to the salt lick?
Posted by: xbalanke || 04/28/2006 21:58 Comments || Top||

#3  Jeez... not that I give a shit about bad guys killing one another, but when I hear about crap like this it only reinforces the nagging suspicion I've had ever since 11/4/79: this war won't be over until the Koran is studied only in Hell.

Damn bloody savages...

Posted by: Dave D. || 04/28/2006 21:59 Comments || Top||

#4  If ever there was a perfect love match, al Qaeda and the Palestinians is it. No two groups could possibly deserve each other more. Couldn't happen to nicer folks. We need to ship in a whole buch of short-life small side arms and fragmenting ammuniton so they can slaughter each other even more quickly. These twisted f*cks deserve to die, especially at their own hands.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/28/2006 22:03 Comments || Top||

#5  Zenster, you seem to be from the rough side of the woods...but I like it. ;-)
Posted by: twobyfour || 04/28/2006 23:05 Comments || Top||

#6  Mo Dahlan gives nuthin away to these killers...I say 50-50 drawn down to 20-80 with disclosure
Posted by: Frank G || 04/28/2006 23:23 Comments || Top||


Palestinians Said Smuggled Rockets in Gaza
TEL AVIV, Israel — Palestinian militants have smuggled dozens of Katyusha rockets into the Gaza Strip, potentially threatening towns well inside Israel, a senior Israeli military official said Friday.

The official said Israel is prepared to re-enter Gaza in response to the threat of the rockets, but has no plans to do so in the immediate future. He spoke on condition of anonymity under military guidelines.

Israel withdrew from Gaza last summer, ending a 38-year military occupation.

Since then, militants have managed to smuggle the Katyushas through tunnels along the southern border with Egypt, the official said, adding that some parts have entered Gaza through the Rafah border crossing. The crossing is controlled by Palestinian security forces along with European monitors.

The official said some of the rockets were made by Iran, but gave few other details on their origins.

Islamic Jihad militants, who have close ties with Iran, recently fired a Katyusha into southern Israel for the first time. The rocket caused no damage, but had longer range and was more powerful than the homemade rockets usually fired by Palestinian militants.

The official said Israel wants to avoid a ground operation in Gaza but will do so if the Palestinians increase their capabilities in a "significant way." He cited the entrance of the Katyushas as a possible reason for military action.
Posted by: ryuge || 04/28/2006 08:13 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Surprise meter?
Posted by: gromgoru || 04/28/2006 21:00 Comments || Top||


Israeli forces arrest Hamas MP in Ramallah
Israeli forces arrested Thursday Ahmad Mubarak, a Hamas MP, in Ramallah on Thursday, eyewitnesses said. They told KUNA Israeli special forces stormed the house of MP Mubarka, searched the house and arrested the lawmaker. The reason of the arrest is still unknown. Israeli army forces have been launching a wide-scale apprehension campaign which resulted in the arrest of 25 Palestinians.
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Israeli airstrike bangs two Paleos
Israeli aircraft fired three missiles at targets in the central Gaza Strip on Thursday, killing one Palestinian militant and critically wounding another, Palestinian health officials said. The army said the airstrikes were aimed at a cell preparing to carry out an attack. It said two vehicles were targeted, and one was hit.
"Drat! Missed him by that much!"
Pillars of smoke billowed from the destroyed vehicle as rescue workers removed burned and dismembered bodies. Palestinian officials initially said both men were dead after they were taken to the morgue by an ambulance.
If they were burned and dismembered, that'd be a good guess.
But a doctor at the morgue found them to be alive and sent them to the operating room. The injuries included lost legs, severe chest wounds and head injuries.
"Send this end of him over to Dr. Quincy, and this end up to Dr. Abu Safia in the operating room!"
"We ain't got no gurney!"
"Here. Use this bucket."
Later, Dr. Baker Abu Safia confirmed that Wael Nassar, 23, of Islamic Jihad had died of his wounds.
"He's dead, Jim!"
Ahmad Abu Najam, 23, another Islamic Jihad militant remained in critical condition.
"Hold off on going through his pockets for loose change, Mahmoud! He's only mostly dead!"
Islamic Jihad vowed to take revenge for the Israeli missile strike. "God willing our reprisal is coming and it is going to be like air shaking," said spokesman Abu Ahmad.
If not like gas passing...
"We are going to shake the air under their feet. They had experienced us in Tel Aviv and more is coming." Islamic Jihad, a small group with ties to Iran and Syria, claimed responsibility for last week's suicide bombing in Tel Aviv that killed nine and wounded dozens.
Posted by: Fred || 04/28/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Cheers Fred, suberb inline! Love that "air shaking" bit.
Posted by: Adrian Veidt || 04/28/2006 5:08 Comments || Top||

#2  " Islamic Jihad, a small group with ties to Iran and Syria=paleoterror state.
Posted by: SamAdamsky || 04/28/2006 8:37 Comments || Top||

#3  boiling toe jam, yadda yadda ...
Posted by: Frank G || 04/28/2006 9:30 Comments || Top||

#4  Note how many they missed with this one missile thingy.

The Israelis really need an AC-130 to implement area denial.
Posted by: 3dc || 04/28/2006 11:51 Comments || Top||

#5  how its done - videos here
Posted by: 3dc || 04/28/2006 11:56 Comments || Top||

#6  We are going to shake the air under their feet.

So has the Zionist Levitation Device already hit the store shelves? I thought that was years away...
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/28/2006 12:20 Comments || Top||

#7  .."We ain't got no gurney!"
"Here. Use this bucket."

One of the greatest Rantburg lines this year!
Posted by: Inspector Clueso || 04/28/2006 12:33 Comments || Top||

#8  "But a doctor at the morgue found them to be alive and sent them to the operating room."

It's convenient that they keep one right next to the other....

Posted by: Mark E. || 04/28/2006 15:47 Comments || Top||

#9  Its that new Dooctor Frankeennnfurter..!
He...es soo ... goo ...d

Posted by: 3dc || 04/28/2006 22:01 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Philippines says peace deal with Muslim rebels on track
KUALA LUMPUR, April 28 (Reuters) - The Philippine government and Muslim rebels will sign a deal next month on ancestral rights, paving the way for a final peace pact by September, the Philippine foreign secretary said on Friday. The Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) has been fighting for an independent state for Muslims on the southern island of Mindanao, although a truce has held since July 2003.

Negotiators from the two sides, meeting in Malaysia, in February agreed to a preliminary deal on "ancestral domain", the key to ending a nearly four-decade revolt that has cost more than 120,000 lives. But the signing of the agreement has been delayed, fanning concerns about new roadblocks in the peace process.
Ancestral domain involves issues such as territories in the south that would be part of the Muslim ancestral homeland, the sharing of revenues from strategic resources such as gold, copper and oil and the form of government within the area.

"There are no problems whatsoever," Alberto Romulo said after meeting Malaysian Foreign Minister Syed Hamid Albar. "It was because there is the need to have more consultations with the stakeholders -- I mean, you have to go the provinces," he said. "It's just the logistics problems."

The conflict had killed 120,000 people over nearly 40 years, stunted development of resource-rich Mindanao and clouded the overall investment and security climate of the Philippines. Asked if the final peace agreement was still achievable by September as planned, he said: "Something like that." "The most important thing is to overcome the ancestral domain, which is really the major issue," he said. "But they have come to an agreement basically on the ancestral domain. "So when they come here to Kuala Lumpur, they are optimistic that they will be able to come to a final agreement."
"There will be peace in our time"
Posted by: ryuge || 04/28/2006 07:44 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  You need a road map.
Posted by: gromgoru || 04/28/2006 21:01 Comments || Top||

#2  Philippines says peace deal with Muslim rebels on track

Dammit. There you go misspelling surrender to again.

This will last as long as it take the MILF to splinter off another group to claim even more ancestral domain. After all I'm sure a muslim farted in downtown Manila at some time in the past.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 04/28/2006 21:06 Comments || Top||


Kidnapped Granny Lady Freed in S. Philippines
Kidnappers freed a 70-year matriarch, two weeks after she and her son were seized in the southern Philippine island of Jolo, the military said yesterday. The military said gunmen released Caridad Vergara before midnight Wednesday near downtown Jolo, but the fate of her 41-year old son, Bren, is still unknown.

Gunmen seized the duo on April 12 near the town’s Kakuyagan village while on their way to the family pharmacy, said Brig. Gen. Alexander Aleo, commander of military forces on the troubled island, about 950 km south of Manila.

The kidnappers originally demanded two million pesos ransom in exchange for their safe release. Vergara told military and police investigators that she was blindfolded by her guards and transported by motorcycle to the village of Danag where she was found by civilians.

She was later brought to the house of the town mayor, Al-Kharmer Izquierdo, who handed her over to relatives. It was not immediately known if her family paid ransom for her release. Her family did not give any statement about her release nor the fate of her son.

No groups claimed responsibility for the abduction, but suspicion fell heavily on the Abu Sayyaf group, blamed for the series of kidnappings and terrorism in the troubled region.
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Syria-Lebanon-Iran
US wants quick UN action on Iran
The United States and Britain said on Friday they would step up pressure on Iran by moving quickly on a U.N. Security Council resolution seeking to curb Tehran's nuclear ambitions, despite objections from China.

U.S. Ambassador John Bolton and British Ambassador Emyr Jones Parry were responding to a report from the International Atomic Energy Agency that said Iran had ignored a March council statement demanding Tehran suspend uranium enrichment, a process used in making bombs as well as electric power And glow in the dark watches!.

"I think it is clear that Iran has done Pretty much whatever the hell it wants nothing to comply with existing IAEA board resolutions or the requests in the Security Council statement" of last month, Bolton said.

"The point is to enhance international pressure on Iran, to show just how isolated they are," Bolton said. "There is still time for Iran to reverse the policy it is pursuing."

Jones Parry said his delegation would introduce a draft resolution on the IAEA report by the middle of next week.

But the initial resolution will not threaten sanctions or hint at military force.

Instead it will put directives by the 35-member IAEA board of governors and the March council statement into a U.N. resolution under Chapter 7 of the U.N. Charter, which makes it legally binding. The resolution would also say that Iran's nuclear program was a threat to "international peace and security," Bolton said.
Ya, that has worked SOOOO well in the past, hasn't it? Rest of drivel at link.
Posted by: Greretle Elmaise9763 || 04/28/2006 12:58 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I.E. they aren't going to do shit.

I can't see one benefit to us for being in the U.N.
All we do is shell out huge sums of money and take a bunch of abuse for it.
Posted by: bigjim-ky || 04/28/2006 13:49 Comments || Top||

#2  A chapter 7 resolution carries the implicit threat "or else". We'll see if the chinese and russians veto or not.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/28/2006 14:03 Comments || Top||

#3  Don't underestimate what we're about. Diplomacy is sometimes like an issue oriented chess game. In this case, each wise diplomatic move results in our getting our way, more and more. Checkmate would be if we could stop Iran's nuclear weapons program with no interference from the other powers.

We are damn good chess players, but even so we must go through the motions, sometimes even sacrificing in some ways, to end up with the optimal situation from our point of view.

To use another analogy, it is not a "Red Queen's Race", though it usually appears we are running in place at the UN. It always has short, medium, and long-term goals, hidden though they may be. And it remains, "war through other means".
Posted by: Anonymoose || 04/28/2006 14:24 Comments || Top||

#4  Normally, Anonymoose, I would agree. However, the US diplomats have proven to be such a bunch of talentless baffoons in the past, that I see this as another waste of time, talk, money, etc. At the end of the day, Russia, China and France will be on one side, US and eastern europe and a couple of arab nations on the other. Nothing will get done other than the aggrivation of countries and we will still have to blow the shit out of a now prepared and possibly nuclear Iran.
Posted by: DarthVader || 04/28/2006 14:34 Comments || Top||

#5  they aren't going to do shit.

Amen brother. That is exactly what's going to happen.
Posted by: JerseyMike || 04/28/2006 16:01 Comments || Top||

#6  Note to DarthBolton: ahMad doesn't care about being isolated. Invoke the Death Star!
Posted by: Captain America || 04/28/2006 17:31 Comments || Top||

#7  I want a million dollars.
Posted by: gromgoru || 04/28/2006 20:47 Comments || Top||


Nuclear Agency: Iran in Defiance of U.N.
The International Atomic Energy Agency said Friday that Iran had enriched uranium and persists with related activities in its nuclear program in defiance of the U.N. Security Council. Just before the report was released, Iran's president said the country "won't give a damn" about any U.N. resolutions concerning its nuclear program.

The eight-page report, obtained by The Associated Press, said that after more than three years of an IAEA investigation, "the existing gaps in knowledge continue to be a matter of concern." "Any progress in that regard requires full transparency and active cooperation by Iran," said the report, written by IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei. The finding set the stage for a showdown in the U.N. Security Council, which is expected to meet next week and start a process that could result in punitive measures against the Islamic republic.

But Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said no Security Council resolution could make Iran give up its nuclear program. "The Iranian nation won't give a damn about such useless resolutions," Ahmadinejad told thousands of people Friday in Khorramdareh in northwestern Iran.
"Frankly, my dear infidel, I don't give a damm"
"Today, they want to force us to give up our way through threats and sanctions but those who resort to language of coercion should know that nuclear energy is a national demand and by the grace of God, today Iran is a nuclear country," state-run television quoted him as saying.

John Bolton, U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, said "the United States is ready to take action in the Security Council to move to a resolution." "I think if anything, the IAEA report shows that Iran has accelerated its efforts to acquire nuclear weapons, although, of course, the report doesn't make any conclusions in that regard," Bolton said. Bolton said the resolution should be under Chapter 7 of the U.N. Charter "making mandatory for Iran the existing requirements of the IAEA resolutions, and particularly the resolution the board passed in February." Chapter 7 resolutions can be enforced by sanctions, or militarily.

The report said Iran's claim to have enriched small amounts to a level of 3.6 percent - fuel-grade uranium as opposed to weapons-grade enriched to levels above 90 percent - appeared to be true, according to initial IAEA analysis of samples it took. In one of the few new developments in the IAEA's more than three-year investigation, the report concluded that Iran used undeclared plutonium in conducting small-scale separation experiments. "The agency cannot exclude the possibility ... that the plutonium analyzed by the agency was derived from source(s) other than declared by Iran," the report said. Plutonium separation is one of the suspect "dual use" activities that could be used for a weapons program.

But the agency was stonewalled by Iran's refusal to give more information on other key issues - details of its centrifuge programs that are used to enrich uranium, information on drawings that show how to form fissile uranium into warheads, and apparent links between Iran's military establishment and what it says is a civilian nuclear program.

The Security council is likely to consider punitive measures against the Islamic republic. While Russia and China have been reluctant to endorse sanctions, the council's three other veto-wielding members say a strong response is in order. The report formally served notice that Tehran had shrugged off a 30-day deadline to meet council demands. As such, it opened the way for further council steps, including the potential threat of sanctions and military action if Iran continues to defy the international community.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice won broad support from NATO allies for a tough diplomatic line on Iran. However, NATO foreign ministers meeting in Sofia, Bulgaria, did not offer any specific threat of sanctions against Iran, in part to avoid a rift with Russia and China. While Russia and China have been reluctant to endorse sanctions, the council's three other veto-wielding members say a strong response is in order. "On Iran, there was unanimity," Spanish Foreign Minister Miguel Angel Moratinos told reporters. "Although the clear message to the Iranian authorities is one of firmness, we have to continue with the diplomatic path."

Rice said it was time for the Security Council to act if the world body wished to remain credible. "The Security Council is the primary and most important institution for the maintenance of peace and stability and security and it cannot have its word and its will simply ignored by a member state," Rice said.

Iran's U.N. ambassador, Javad Zarif, said Thursday that Tehran will refuse to comply even if the council request is turned into a demand through a resolution because its activities are legal and peaceful. Enrichment can be used to generate fuel or make the fissile core of nuclear weapons. "If the Security Council decides to take decisions that are not within its competence, then Iran does not feel obliged to obey," he said in New York.

As late as Thursday, Russian President Vladimir Putin questioned the primacy of the council, insisting the U.N. nuclear watchdog should continue to play a central role in the dispute. "It mustn't shrug this role from its shoulders and pass it on to the U.N. Security Council," Putin said.

But a top French diplomat laid out a starkly contrasting position that also reflects U.S. and British views: The Security Council should not only have the main say in dealing with Iran but also should start considering how to increase the pressure. But, the diplomat said, a U.N. resolution enforceable by military action would not automatically mean resorting to such action. The Security Council statement a month ago gave Iran until Friday to suspend all activities linked to enrichment because it can be used to make the highly enriched uranium used in the core of nuclear warheads.

Instead of complying, Iran - which says it seeks the technology only to generate electric power - has upped the ante in recent weeks, announcing it had for the first time successfully enriched uranium and was doing research on advanced centrifuges that would let it produce more of the material in less time. Western concern has grown in the more than three years since when Iran was found to be working on large-scale plans to enrich uranium.

While the IAEA has found no "smoking gun" proving Iran wants nuclear arms, a series of reports have revealed worrying clandestine activities - like plutonium processing - and documents, including drawings of how to mold weapons-grade uranium metal into the shape of a warhead.
Posted by: Steve || 04/28/2006 12:12 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  While the IAEA has found no "smoking gun" proving Iran wants nuclear arms, a series of reports have revealed worrying clandestine activities - like plutonium processing - and documents, including drawings of how to mold weapons-grade uranium metal into the shape of a warhead.

Smoking gun? Where?
ElBaradei couldn't find a smoking gun if somebody shot him in the ass with one...
Posted by: tu3031 || 04/28/2006 12:32 Comments || Top||

#2  It will be interesting to watch the NATO expansion story run in parallel with this one. I would not be surprised if Bush moves to convert NATO to a council of democracies if the UNSC ties this one up. The UN could be neutered and defunded before it is over.

We should clearly make that the deal. De-nuke Iran or de-fund the UN.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 04/28/2006 12:40 Comments || Top||

#3  How about de-nuke Iran AND de-fund the UN.
Posted by: Darrell || 04/28/2006 12:48 Comments || Top||

#4  Oddly enough Iran was recently selected to be vice chair of the UN Disarmament Commission.

http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewForeignBureaus.asp?Page=/ForeignBureaus/archive/200604/INT20060417c.html

I suppose the UN could demote Iran from vice chair to deputy vice chair.

Take that, Iran.
Posted by: mhw || 04/28/2006 13:12 Comments || Top||

#5  It appears the mad mullahs have told Nobel Laureate ElBaradei, the IAEA and the UN to shove it up their butt.
What would Nobel Laureate El Baradei do? Hit them with another report...those would only hurt if they were dropped from 40,000 feet.......attached to a 1000 kg bomb.
Anyway, the impotence of trying to negotiate with those who don't to negotiate is again illuminated for the rational and completely lost on the liberals and the diplomats.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 04/28/2006 19:37 Comments || Top||

#6  Nary a difference - Dubya, the GOP-Right and America will be blamed for both invading Iran as well as doing nothing against Iran. The Dems-Left criticized Dubya for focusing on Iran while allegedly ignoring North Korea, which the Lefties know is controlled by China, i.e. the Left wilfully wanted Dubya to offend and antagonize China while also demanding that Dubya not do anything militarily.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 04/28/2006 22:33 Comments || Top||


Iran’s Ahmadinejad pours scorn on UN
TEHERAN - Hardline President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has poured fresh scorn on the United Nations and boasted Iran could soon become a “superpower”, official media said on Friday as the regime defied demands to freeze sensitive nuclear work.
OK, we all agree on the "scorn" part...
“Iran does not give a damn about such resolutions,” the firebrand president said in a speech on Thursday in the north province of Zanjan. “The bullies of the world should no that nuclear energy is a national demand, and thank God our nation is a nuclear nation today,” the official news agency IRNA quoted him as saying.

The UN Security Council had set Teheran a non-binding 30-day deadline -- which ran out on Friday -- to comply with previous International Atomic Energy Agency resolution to halt uranium enrichment work. Iran has refused to comply, arguing that it only wants to make reactor fuel and not the core of a nuclear bomb.

“The Iranian nation’s achievement of peaceful nuclear energy is so important that it could change the world equation,” Ahmadinejad told one of several rallies in the province. “The Islamic republic of Iran has the capacity to quickly become a world superpower,” he said. “If we believe in ourselves... no other power can be compared to us. “We do not need weapons or military expeditions, because our position in the world is rising and Iran’s words have now influenced all the world’s equations,” the firebrand leader asserted.

According to the ISNA news agency, he also promised that Iran would “soon have more good news” on its nuclear drive. The last time Ahmadinejad promised “good news” was earlier this month, when he went on to announce that Iranian scientists and successfully enriched uranium to make reactor fuel and declared the Islamic republic had “joined the nuclear club”.
Atta-boy, just keep pouring gasoline on that fire
IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei was set to report Friday that Iran has failed to meet the UN deadline to stop enriching uranium, paving the way for possible sanctions against a defiant Teheran. The United States has also not ruled out taking military action.
Posted by: Steve || 04/28/2006 09:09 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  No Steve, pour out all the gasoline then light the fire. It works much better that way.
Posted by: Uniting Shirt9124 || 04/28/2006 9:31 Comments || Top||

#2  Take a tour through a few Euro blogs and get the pulse of the Europeans. Almost to a man they are ok with a nuclear-armed Iran. Do they reflect the thinking of their politicians? No, but the politicians' initiatives may well be born from the common man's "thinking".

Ahmedinejad scorns the UN because he knows 1) China and Russia won't stop him; 2) the major European players in the UN, a powerful part of that body in terms of international public opinion, aren't serious about stopping him. He recognizes that in the end he'll get his weapons with the "international community's" approval, because of a kind of European "bottom line of fairness":

Common talk on the street: "If Pakistan, Israel, the US, and France can get them, why not Iran?" "We are more afraid of the US using them than Iran using them." Take a tour and see it for yourselves.

So who is with us, besides Israel?
Posted by: Jules || 04/28/2006 9:37 Comments || Top||

#3  Iran’s Ahmadinejad pours scorn on UN

I never thought I'd have an opinion in common with him.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 04/28/2006 9:41 Comments || Top||

#4  So who is with us, besides Israel?

India, Japan, Iraq, Saudi, Gulf States, and most of Europe, off the record.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 04/28/2006 9:43 Comments || Top||

#5  NS-A man that takes one step forward publicly and one step backward privately simply appears immobile and impotent in the end-not inspiring of fear or respect by his nemeses.

Does your conclusion mean that you think European public opinion an irrelevant consideration in this issue?
Posted by: Jules || 04/28/2006 10:08 Comments || Top||

#6  "Saudi and Gulf States"

Right...another deal with the "lesser of evils"-the same ones funding jihadis.
Posted by: Jules || 04/28/2006 10:10 Comments || Top||

#7  Jules, The aristocrats who run Europe have never been blinded by public opinion, at least not until there is violence in the streets. Will the French go into the streets over an attack on Iran? I doubt it. It's not as important to them as maintaining a 10% unemployment rate. So I suspect the leaders of Europe quietly will support us with logistics and intelligence. The Polish and Danes may actually speak out.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 04/28/2006 10:20 Comments || Top||

#8  No, the French won't take to the streets over an attack on Iran, but they will take to the streets if we ask them to allow imports of GM wheat.
Posted by: Perfesser || 04/28/2006 10:29 Comments || Top||

#9  So ship them nitrogen fixing GM lawn grass instead.
Posted by: 3dc || 04/28/2006 10:34 Comments || Top||

#10  "The aristocrats who run Europe have never been blinded by public opinion"

I would argue that they are even more swayed by public opinion than our politicians are, since firm core principles surely don't inform their policies-expediency and ease do.

Their public opinion merely takes a different form-it's not the grass roots, outraged and going-onto-the-streets form of the American polity; it is a PC-collectivist public opinion that has pulled along so many of their politicians' on a leash and which convinces them that their cultures and countries face no danger if they will only parrot the correct words and curtsy.
Posted by: Jules || 04/28/2006 10:44 Comments || Top||

#11  folks on the street talk about how they actually feel about the issue - which is relative indifference to the Iran nuke program.

Actual political leaders, take into account other factors. Lke the need to improve relations with the US. Like the need to reinforce the US tendency, since Condi became SecofState, to be more multilateral and to work more closely with the EU. Like the need to give the NPT and the UNSC at least SOME street cred. Like the need for US support as Putin goes ever farther from being someone the Euros can rely on. All the kinds of things the bloggers and pundits dont give a damn about, but that a Chirac or De Villepin DO care about.

KInda like here in the US conservative pundits go all Jacksonian in there rhetoric, but the Bush admin uses more diplomatic methods.

Power has a tendency to lead to a certain degree of responsibility. (well at least if youre not a muslim fundie)
Posted by: liberalhawk || 04/28/2006 10:50 Comments || Top||

#12  The Un could try a different tact - boot Iran out and pull diplo immunity.
Posted by: anonymous2u || 04/28/2006 10:53 Comments || Top||

#13  "Power has a tendency to lead to a certain degree of responsibility."

Which explains why President Bush felt the need to hold the hand of a Saudi Prince, probably not long after that prince signed a check to his favorite jihadi fund-a-terrorist program.
Posted by: Jules || 04/28/2006 10:57 Comments || Top||

#14  Naive Euro (and lefty) public opinion logic is as jules said:

1) if pakistan, india, france etc and the US have nukes (and israel they mutter) then why not Iran?

2) We are more afraid of the US using them, US only country ever to have dropped the bomb.

Problem for America:

1) Public opinion would not support a ground war in Iran especially as Iraq still occupied, Afghanistan still a problem. Not enough money and men to sort them all out at once.

2) Allies would drop away.

So, US threats of force against Iran are ultimately impotent and I'm-a-dinner-jacket knows it.

This leads to his pouring petrol on the fire. Do your worst, he blusters, knowing full well UN threats are baseless (when have they ever competently done anything even when they've agreed to it?) and the only credible threat - the US - is bound by popular opinion and Iraq.

Only possibility is a decapitating strike by Israel/ US bombers on Iranian nuke sites.

If Mossad believes Iran is about to get nukes we will wake up one morning to the sight of craters in the ground all over Iran.

Only problem: this will force the public opinion at step 1 further into moral equivalence, condemnation of Israel and America as the great satans, hatred of Israel, anti-Semitism, consiracy theories, sympathy for Islamofascists and propel us even deeper into the public relations disaster that is so helping our enemies.


But if nothing is done, then one day Iran will have the bomb, then it's goodbye Israel.

So I don't know what the best outcome is. And I cannot call this one, it's too much of a mish-mash to me.

Anybody else? Oldspook? Zhang Fei? you're usually pretty on to it, love to know your thoughts.

Perhaps a lot of public blustering only will come of it.
Posted by: anon1 || 04/28/2006 11:04 Comments || Top||

#15  I would argue that they are even more swayed by public opinion than our politicians are

That's why they're finished with the EU Constitution?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 04/28/2006 11:36 Comments || Top||

#16  Good point.
Posted by: Jules || 04/28/2006 11:37 Comments || Top||

#17  So, NS, you think the politicians of France, Germany and England will ignore the collective, nuanced, humanitarian-minded public opinion and support a military strike on Iran, if push comes to shove? You give them more credit for courage than I would.
Posted by: Jules || 04/28/2006 11:39 Comments || Top||

#18  One pours scorn with a gravy ladle, I believe.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 04/28/2006 11:48 Comments || Top||

#19  Only problem: this will force the public opinion at step 1 further into moral equivalence, condemnation of Israel and America as the great satans, hatred of Israel, anti-Semitism, consiracy theories, sympathy for Islamofascists and propel us even deeper into the public relations disaster that is so helping our enemies.

It's time for the West to realize that any "public relations disaster" is long behind us. We are now in a pure survival phase, it's just that most people either don't comprehend this or simply refuse to do so. If ever there was a solid candidate for a rogue nation that was willing to place a nuclear device into terrorist hands, it is Iran.

Iran's possession of nuclear arms represents the single most dire threat to regional stability and global security. North Korea pales as a distant second by comparison. The doctrine driven aspect of the mullahs and Ahmadinejad's political strategy are what makes it so.

This one is for all the marbles. Either we go in and cripple Iran's nuclear weapons efforts or we can expect a nuclear terrorist attack upon a major American metropolis within less than ten years. How anyone can think there are alternatives in this situation is simply beyond me.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/28/2006 11:52 Comments || Top||

#20  That ahMad would be pouring scorn on the UN is no surprise. Hell, the UN was born to be scorned.

What's more interesting is that ahMad would be doing it with Ruskie and ChiCom complacency.
Posted by: Captain America || 04/28/2006 11:58 Comments || Top||

#21  The only problem with being in survival phase when large sections of the public just don't get it is that an unpopular military action will see the smart and brave guys trashed at the next election and patsies voted in to appease the enemy.

Then we are back to worse than square 1.
Posted by: anon1 || 04/28/2006 11:59 Comments || Top||

#22  Bush is term limited.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 04/28/2006 12:05 Comments || Top||

#23  "How anyone can think there are alternatives in this situation is simply beyond me."

Our European allies, who we are supposed to believe will fight for the same interests as we are, and whom we are agreeing to let lead on this issue, think their minor-league bluff is going to convince Iran, which is why I am beating a dead horse on this thread. No one believes them anymore, least of all Iran. Why would Iran believe any meaningful consequence will come from Europe or the UN? Why would Iran be afraid? Tit for tat, Iran and the West can make each other suffer. Who will pay the greater price? If a few countries agree to sanctions outside the UN, do we imagine the financial consequences to the West won't be significant?

It's not that we upset the public, Zen, but what effect that public opinion has on European judgment and decision-making, that concerns me.
Posted by: Jules || 04/28/2006 12:43 Comments || Top||

#24  The diplomatic play by Bush here was good. Let the EU and Iran talk and try to solve the problem diplomatically while our forces are otherwise occupied in Iraq. One party or the other will change its mind. If the Iranians, thank the EUros and defang Iran. If the EUros, they're on board for action now, by us with no involvement or protest from them, that talking failed and we've settled things in Iraq. It's coming together.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 04/28/2006 12:49 Comments || Top||

#25  Then we are back to worse than square 1.

However repugnant the notion might be, four years of democratic party government in the United States cannot do the same level of harm as an unfettered Iran. A subsequent administration can appease a crippled Iran all they want and no extreme harm can come of it. A nuclear armed Iran is another matter entirely.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/28/2006 13:02 Comments || Top||

#26  Well, Jules, as far as I'm concerned Europe can go hang. They won't be part of modern civilization for that much longer anyway, so their unwillingness to defend even themselves is immaterial.
Posted by: Robert Crawford || 04/28/2006 13:24 Comments || Top||

#27  "Iran’s Ahmadinejad pours scorn on UN"

Damn! Something I agree with this nutjob on.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 04/28/2006 13:34 Comments || Top||

#28  Zenster is dead on concerning this. The balance of the globe has shifted against us, just how it is now. So who gives a damn about global opinion.

We've got to accept NOTHING the US does will be acceptable again. That is until another 'good' war (WWII) or crisis on a global scale arives and the world actually realizes, then, suddenly the US will be acceptable again.

Therefore we foregoe the pleasantries and Rage.
Posted by: bombay || 04/28/2006 13:53 Comments || Top||

#29  "Why would Iran believe any meaningful consequence will come from Europe or the UN? Why would Iran be afraid?"

Because Irans economy needs to grow rapidly to employ a growing young labor force. When their economic growth stops, they have a BIG problem on their hands. I think the Mullahs would rather have a US air strike than effective economic sanctions. OTOH they dont think we have the ground troops for a regime change, and that a bombing of the nuke sites actually strengthens them at home.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/28/2006 14:08 Comments || Top||

#30  Let's find out.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 04/28/2006 14:17 Comments || Top||

#31  As VDH keeps saying -- there is much we can learn from the wars between Sparta and Athens.

It is very hard for a democratic form of government to find, elect, reward, and keep in place the kind of men who will design and wage a long war so as to save us. Especially in modern times when the "intellectuals" are overwhelmingly opposed to Western civilization.

My prediction now is that we will see a nuclear war within the next few years and tens of millions will die. WW I, and WW II, will pale in comparison. Because Iran wasn't stopped in time. It's terrible and it's being forced on us by Islamofascists and our leftists.
Posted by: Kalle (kafir forever) || 04/28/2006 14:23 Comments || Top||

#32  LH makes good points. We are not going to occupy Iran and strikes may actually be what Iran wants to as to take their population's mind off of a woeful economy. For this reason, we can at least hope that sanctions could in fact force some sort of reform.

I think we can wait until Iran gets new SAMs deployed and integrated into their air defense system. I believe this is about a year but am not sure. During this time we need to squeeze them economically as much as possible and also see what, if anything, these resistance groups can do.

That said, in the likely event we need to attack we need to try to have at least France and Britain on board. The reason being is that their support -- wrongly in my opinion -- helps us have more domestic concensus (i.e. the dems think France is some sort of moral arbiter) for a PROLONGED campaign designed to destroy not just the nuke sites but key economic infrastructure and regime targets.

The message to the wussy Iranian public, which whines about the Mullahs but does nothing about it, needs to be: "we warned you that this would happen if you kept letting Amadinemajad threaten us and ignored your NPT obligations, we waited a year for extra diplomacy and you did nothing, now you will suffer."

Ideally we convey these threats effectively to the the Iranian people during the next year. Iranians need to be fearful that their President's boasts and threats may lead them to experience severe discomfort and/or death from the West, which is would otherwise be quite happy to treat their country with respect.


The bottom line is that the Iranians, despite the claims of people like Ledeen, are probably too cowardly to do anything about the hated Mullahs. This is understandable. We need to at least consider the benefits of making them fear us more.

Just thinking out loud.
Posted by: JAB || 04/28/2006 14:29 Comments || Top||

#33  "The message to the wussy Iranian public, which whines about the Mullahs but does nothing about it,"

some of them have died for their opposition, some been beaten and some jailed. Its not that easy gathering enough people together at one time against a regime willing to use brutal means. In eastern europe the regimes were finally brought down, but it took a long time till the moment was ripe.

I find this kind of epithet, for people living under an authoritarian regime, from people sitting in safety behind a computer, (unless youre actually with the armed forces or otherwise exposed) to be inappropriate.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/28/2006 14:35 Comments || Top||

#34  LH has a wonderful point here. 9 out of 10 resistance movements fail because of efficiant government crackdowns. What the people of Iran need is a sponser, like France did for the US during the revolutionary war. This is Iran's weak point. A good and sponsered uprising and resistance movement will bring Iran down a lot more efficiantly than general invasion. However, I fear our leaders don't have the spine or the will to do this and I fear many just don't trust it to work.
Posted by: DarthVader || 04/28/2006 14:45 Comments || Top||

#35  France did not do squat until after we had shown we demonstrated we could win at the Battle of Saratoga. (La Fayette was acting on his own)

Playing the uprising game is dangerous as Hungary and the Bay of Pigs demonstrated. It is unreasonable to expect people to "rise up" just because we think they are oppressed. They may have made the real calculation that they prefer being oppressed to being dead. Look how long it took those living under Communism to get thoroughly fed up. Yet once that point is reached for enough people, the regimes fell. If it weren't for the nukes, I'd let the MM run Iran till the Iranians got fed up.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 04/28/2006 15:09 Comments || Top||

#36  Well, Jules, as far as I'm concerned Europe can go hang. They won't be part of modern civilization for that much longer anyway, so their unwillingness to defend even themselves is immaterial.

Absolutely. By their collective inaction alone, Europe has marginalized itself. Russia and China must be laughing up their sleeves at the West's stupidity. Neither of them would hesitate to glaze Iran like a honey-baked ham if it suited their purposes.

Much like the folks who worry about lobsters feeling pain when being boiled, we prink about with cautious concern for those who seek our ultimate demise. Here's a hint, lobsters would chow down on us like a cheap buffet if they could. If we continue to let world opinion paralyze us, we will deserve Ahmadinejad's scorn. He will have been right. Were the situation reversed, Iran would have attacked us decades ago.
Posted by: Zenster || 04/28/2006 15:10 Comments || Top||

#37  Kalle is correct. How I wish it weren't true. I don't see any way around the rush toward Islamo-directed world genocide and ultimate power grab.
Posted by: ex-lib || 04/28/2006 15:11 Comments || Top||

#38  LH has a valid point, and I'd actually agree in most cases, but we've already crossed the threashold.

At this point it is Utopian to believe the US can count on global support of any kind in most things. The econmic threat requires a wide acceptance and we already have ample evidence this cannot happen. Russia will cheat, China will cheat, on and on.

Again valid point, but in today's world it is not likley we could affect such a threat of enough scope to matter.

We crossed the line these days from where the US could use words to affect change to power is now required.

The world has grown tolerance to our words, not to mention hostile and cynical. Action is now necessary to really get things done in the current landscape.
Posted by: bombay || 04/28/2006 15:22 Comments || Top||

#39  As much as I hate to say it, there will be no effective action. No meaningful sanctions will be imposed and we will see a nuclear-armed Iran soon. US and Israel will stand alone.
Posted by: Sgt. D.T. || 04/28/2006 15:35 Comments || Top||

#40  One pours scorn with a gravy ladle, I believe

Close, Chuck. Scorn is presented at the dining table in a dedicated, covered soup tureen with matching soup ladle. Dedicated, because the stench can't ever be totally removed after. And covered for the same reason. A gravy ladle just isn't big enough for the quantities involved, and there is the off chance that someone might grab it for the extra giblet gravy at Thanksgiving -- and what a disaster that would be! ;-)

As for an economic boycott of Iran: France, Germany, Belgium, and Russia demonstrated conclusively in the situation with Iraq that even those boycotts they sponsor will not hold them back from breaking them. I see no reason to believe that under the current circumstances they and China wouldn't be signing contracts to supply Iran with goods and munitions in return for oil before the ink was even dry on a UN Security Council boycott.
Posted by: trailing wife || 04/28/2006 15:37 Comments || Top||

#41  As to the Iranian people rising up, sometimes people put up with a LOT of oppression rather than rise up -- as example #1a, I give you Iraq under Saddam. People hated the man and they were certainly sorely oppressed.

They even tried to rise up -- the Kurds tried a couple times, the Shi'a tried as well. But they weren't successful, and they didn't keep trying because, when confronted with a slim chance of success versus a very high chance of death, people will put up with oppression a while longer.

If still in doubt, check out Hungary and other East European countries.

The Mad Mullahs™ know this. They've calibrated their oppression skills pretty well. They're using, in effect, a #5 truncheon on their people because that's what it takes. If necessary they'll pull out a #6 or even (gasp) a #7. Unless the Iranian people see some reasonable chance of success, they'll put up with it.

Why don't we foment a revolution? Gee, great idea, and just how, exactly -- with our CIA? How long would it take Ms. McCarthy or her pals to torpedo, and then leak, that one? With our words? Dubya can get the message out there, but words alone would take years to build up the courage of the Iranians (I'm not saying they're cowards, but they have some inertia to get past), and we don't have years. Ronald Reagan's words took a decade to percolate in Eastern Europe, after all, and Iran is a tougher case. Words alone won't work, and we don't have a competent intel organization that can do the quiet, dirty organizing and skull-duggery required.

So the notion of fomenting revolution in Iran, something I've pinned my hopes on in the past, looks increasingly less likely.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/28/2006 15:42 Comments || Top||

#42  people point to the cheating on sanctions in Iraq.

Iran,bad as it is, is NOT as tight a place as Saddamite Iraq. People talk in private about how they hate the mullahs. People who openly defy the regime get beaten up, jailed for a spell, and released. In Iraq theyd have been shot. In Iraq foreigners couldnt meet with locals without a minder. This is not, IMHO, cause the mullahs are lovers of moderation or liberty, but just cause the sequence of events in the Iranian rev of '79 never got them that much power, and they havent had the strength to impose that much control.

Iraq under sanctions had an economy in collapse, with massive unemployment despite the cheating. Saddam held on, barely, cause of a much more efficient security apparatus and tighter control than Iran has.

I cant guarantee, of course, that sanctions will lead to revolution. But I dont think we can rule it out.


As for how much time we have - I for one, dont know. Shortest Ive heard from a reasonable source (israeli military guy) was one year. The NIE says about 10, shortest 5, but thats dated. Ive also heard 3.

We MAY reach the point where we cant wait for an Iranian revolution any longer. We're not at that point yet - and the steps we take now can advance, or retard that process. We certainly should NOT toss it out of our cost benefit considerations, even as we dont count on it.
Posted by: Liberalhawk || 04/28/2006 16:01 Comments || Top||

#43  There are several ethnic areas of Iran where a defacto revolt could start.

It would begin with a few dozen Iranian soldiers being captured or defecting. A few more soldiers sent in. A few months later another wipeout.

Then the same thing happens in another ethnic enclave.

A some point a large chunk of the military revolts. Then the cities rise up.

maybe not soon --- maybe in another two years or so
Posted by: mhw || 04/28/2006 16:13 Comments || Top||

#44  maybe in another two years or so

Are you willing to gamble that Iran will not have built a nuclear device within that 24 month timespan? If not, please explain why you bother mentioning this?
Posted by: Zenster || 04/28/2006 16:30 Comments || Top||

#45  I'm not necesarily talking about cheating on sanctions like Iraq. No need, that is moot, because it won't happen.

Then the next threat could be an embargo of the willing, not large enough in scope.

Either way, Russia, China and all the others are going to talk the talk, play both sides, and not give a damn about US. That is the rub, we are already way past that point.

Action is the only thing that can stop this, either now at painful levels or later at very painful levels.

I think we need to accept some reality now, the US is the biggest scapegoat in history and will remain for a long while to come. We are already past the threshold. We are on our own, and must accept, that many will obstruct what is right, just to smite the US.

I am saying that the we won't have cooperation for sanctions or the lot from the UNSC / World again ... they already accept as universal law the US has evil motives for everything.

Many countries activley block any move we now make. Propoganda against everything we do is ever present and we've done nothing to combat it. 9/11 has emboldened many. Iran, NK, Venezuala et al mouthing off every day probing the the threshold of tolerance everyday. Signs of buckling on the Hamas embargo, etc, etc, etc.

Soft power has gone the way of the DoDo, we won't have help in sanctions, we won't have a global conviction or unanimous voice.

That is until something really big goes down and everyone wakes up out of their 'since the USSR is gone there is nothing to fear, nothing to see, please walk by and log your official protest of the Big Bad US today' - once they feel the pain or the threat for real we'll be able to adopt the softer approach.

For now, all we have, that we can truly count on, is the US military.
Posted by: bombay || 04/28/2006 16:37 Comments || Top||

#46  LH, I am indeed writing from the comfort of a computer. I take your point.

I did say it was "understandable" that the Iranians did not want to risk it. To elaborate, I'd add that I am not sure how I, myself, would deal in their situation. I do not mean to expect superhuman courage from anybody.

So, I regret the term 'wussy' which was written in haste. What I do not regret is venting frustration with the overhyped Iranian 'resistance' which is all talk and no action. Unlike the Eastern Europeans and Iraqis they did not really TRY to overthrow their oppressive theocracy. Everytime there is an incident at a soccer game or some students get together for a demonstration people like Michael Ledeen imply that the seeds for a revolt are sown. However, it always turns out to be underwhelming thanks to the efficiency of the police and the lack of serious or organization of the 'resistance'.

Like Steve I have given up on an overthrow of the Mullahs from within. Still, as stated in my post, I think we need to use the remaining year or so before the Iranians get their new SAMs up to redouble our efforts on this front just in case. I still harbor a smidgen of hope that the regular Iranian military retains a few people who do not want war and are open to cooperation with Western powers. Hopefully the CIA or the Brits are talking to them if they exist.

We have to assume, though that, at this point, it's all about the nukes. Our strategy should be to exhaust sanctions and diplomacy while we can still afford to do so with an eye towards accumulating domestic and potentially internal support for a sustained campaign against the Iranian regime as well as it's military capability and to prepare for the terrorist onslaught that will come after it.

There are no good choices. If the Iranians were more like the Poles, Hungarians and Czechs -- who we could not help because of the Soviet nuclear threat -- or Shia in Iraq after GWI -- who we shamefully allowed to be massacred by Saddam -- the situation might be different but for a variety of reasons they are not. It's understandable because of the effectiveness of the Mullah's police state. It's sad because Iran ought to be a natural ally of the US in a perfect world. But it's reality and we better deal with it before they have nuclear capabilities.
Posted by: JAB || 04/28/2006 16:38 Comments || Top||

#47  NS: Look how long it took those living under Communism to get thoroughly fed up. Yet once that point is reached for enough people, the regimes fell.

SW: sometimes people put up with a LOT of oppression rather than rise up

I'd like to point out that in Poland, the country that got the ball rolling in eastern Europe, the goal initially was not to effect regime change. The Solidarity Trade Union was mainly concerned with workers' rights, work conditions, wages, right to independent unions, etc. See: 21 demands of MKS Unfortunately for the communists, yielding to any of these demands essentially resulted in the weakening of the regime.

By the end of the 80s, when Solidarity demanded partially-free elections (even at this point the goal was not full regime change, but to have more say in economic planning), it was essentially over for the communists. After all, communism survives on iron-fisted rule, not some power-sharing approach with a trade union. Most communists were deafeated in this election and shortly after, the whole thing collapsed for the communists with the announcement "today communism is over in Poland" on state television (which after 25 years still brings a tear to the eye, lol).

So what was the spark? Basic economics. You see, in a planned economy you still have the basic business cycles. There are times when things are good and people are happy, even praising the powers that be. But there also comes the time to pay for all the good times, and then things are not so good. To pay for the good times, a planned economy often raises prices, depresses wages, introduces rationing, etc. And that's exactly what happened in Poland. By the late 1970s, people were concerned with putting food on the table, and there's nothing like personal hardship to create the fervor for change. The rest is history.

So back to Iran. While things like democracy, basic freedoms etc, are always popular ideals, they are somewhere on the bottom of the ordinary person's list of essential items. As long as an unpopular regime can provide economically for their population, there is little fear of regime change. Start tinkering with a person's real well being, and that's when trouble starts.

Unfortunately Iran has oil, and they are not even a strictly planned economy. The trick is to find another spark. Perhaps religious authority infringing on people's right to make money is the key. In this light, maybe sanctions can indeed work. Or maybe not.
Posted by: Rafael || 04/28/2006 16:39 Comments || Top||

#48  That said, in the likely event we need to attack we need to try to have at least France and Britain on board. The reason being is that their support -- wrongly in my opinion -- helps us have more domestic concensus (i.e. the dems think France is some sort of moral arbiter)
I'll swamp France for India in that case, that said...

NS it was only after Saratoga that a formal treaty was signed. The King of France was supporting the rebel forces in the US out of his own pocket prior to that. Silas Dean extracted 3 million livres from the gent at one point.
Posted by: 6 || 04/28/2006 16:45 Comments || Top||

#49  Swap he sed, swap France for India... jeebus.
Posted by: 6 || 04/28/2006 16:46 Comments || Top||

#50  I would swap India for France too. However, France is more important for getting domestic buy in. That will change in time. India is a critical new ally and apparantly beginning to cooperate more on Iran.
Posted by: JAB || 04/28/2006 16:48 Comments || Top||

#51  The best thing would be if Japan, Taiwan, Germany and Israel announced that if Iran is allowed nuclear weapons they will develop and test them also.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 04/28/2006 16:57 Comments || Top||

#52  Iran’s Ahmadinejad pours scorn on UN

Reminds me of a very old Pogo strip where two of the characters (Miz Beaver and Pogo, I believe) were having a discussion on the garbage barge, and Miz B is shouting out, "Scorn! I scream!" Another character on shore hears her and thinks she's offering corn and ice cream and rows out to get some.

/I guess you hadda be there
Posted by: Xbalanke || 04/28/2006 17:09 Comments || Top||

#53  That would be good to announce. Then add, any CBN attacks and Iran and NK get hit instantly.

They'll spend a large amount of time on 1) not fair 2) what is someone else does, not fair 3) oh crap
Posted by: bombay || 04/28/2006 17:10 Comments || Top||

#54  "This one is for all the marbles. Either we go in and cripple Iran's nuclear weapons efforts or we can expect a nuclear terrorist attack upon a major American metropolis within less than ten years."

Indeed. Not only is it for all the marbles, it's also for keeps: what we do-- or shrink from doing-- will determine whether our grandchildren and great-grandchildren will live in a constant state of seige, or live in peace.

Crippling Iran's nuclear weapons efforts is an urgent, immediate necessity. It absolutely MUST be done, and done soon.

The regime must also be removed from power, preferably by force of American arms, and with a sufficiently unnerving level of violence that the demise of the Black Hats will serve as a deterrent to future Islamic "Nuclear Club" wannabees for a long, long, LONG time to come.

And finally, like it or not, if the Western world wants to survive much longer, it is going to have to articulate and enforce a new policy: No Islamic nation shall be permitted to possess nuclear weapons or the technology to create them. No exceptions, no excuses, and to hell with any soft-headed liberal notions of "fairness" or appeals to the outmoded strictures of the existing non-proliferation regime which has been so absurdly ineffective at stopping lunatics from gaining nukes.

Posted by: Dave D. || 04/28/2006 17:57 Comments || Top||

#55  Word, Dave D..
Posted by: Zenster || 04/28/2006 19:03 Comments || Top||

#56  To be clear, I have not given up on an internal revolution in Iran; I am afraid that there isn't enough time for one to be had that will stop the Mad Mullahs™ from getting a nuke and a missile delivery system mated together. I would like to be proven wrong, and I agree with LH that it would be the best solution.

In the absence of an internal revolution, we will need to stop the MM's from getting a nuke. I don't know how best to do that, and I understand the concern that doing so with a big air strike will cause much of the world, including people who know consider themselves to be our friends, to condemn us. That wouldn't stop me from doing it (if I were Dubya), but I'd sure be looking whether there's another way to get it done.
Posted by: Steve White || 04/28/2006 19:05 Comments || Top||

#57  It would be a great solution to my financial woes, too, if Michael Anthony would ring my doorbell right now.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 04/28/2006 19:24 Comments || Top||

#58  No Islamic nation shall be permitted to possess nuclear weapons or the technology to create them.

How about we just burn every physics textbook in the world? That oughtta stop them!
Posted by: mad I tell ya || 04/28/2006 19:35 Comments || Top||

#59  It's time for the West to realize that any "public relations disaster" is long behind us. We are now in a pure survival phase

Hear, hear!
Posted by: gromgoru || 04/28/2006 20:58 Comments || Top||

#60  Let's start with drugs.
A high percentage of Iran is on drugs...
Get the BZ out and make it all of Iran.

If that can't clam stuff down then go the bomb route. Just do the BZ now. No perm effect on the the infra-structure but it will get their attention.

BZ Bombs Away
BZ Bombs Away
During the early 1960s Edgewood Arsenal, headquarters of the US Army Chemical Corps, received an average of four hundred chemical "rejects" every month from the maior American pharmaceutical firms. Rejects were drugs found to be commercially useless because of their undesirable side effects. Of course, undesirable side effects were precisely what the army was looking for.

It was from Hoffmann-La Roche in Nutley, New Jersey, that Edgewood Arsenal obtained its first sample of a drug called quinuclidinyl benzilate, or BZ for short. The army learned that BZ inhibits the production of a chemical substance that facilitates the transfer of messages along the nerve endings, thereby disrupting normal perceptual pattems. The effects generally lasted about three days, although symptoms--headaches, giddiness, disorientation, auditory and visual hallucinations, and maniacal behavior--could persist for as long as six weeks. "During the period of acute effects," noted an army doctor, "the person is completely out of touch with his environment."

Dr. Van Sim, who served as chief of the Clinical Research Division at Edgewood, made it a practice to try all new chemicals himself before testing them on volunteers. Sim said he sampled LSD "on several occasions." Did he enjoy getting high, or were his acid trips simply a patriotic duty? "It's not a matter of compulsiveness or wanting to be the first to try a material," Sim stated. "With my experience I am often able to change the design of future experiments.... This allows more comprehensive tests to be conducted later, with maximum effective usefulness of inexperienced volunteers. I'm trying to defeat the compound, and if I can, we don't have to drag out the tests at the expense of a lot of time and money." With BZ, Dr. Sim seems to have met his match. "It zonked me for three days. I kept falling down and the people at the lab assigned someone to follow me around with a mattress. I woke up from it after three days without a bruise." For his efforts Sim received the Decoration for Exceptional Civilian Service and was cited for exposing himself to dangerous drugs "at the risk of grave personal injury."

According to Dr. Solomon Snyder, a leading psychopharmacologist at Johns Hopkins University, which conducted drug research for the Chemical Corps, "The army's testing of LSD was just a sideshow compared to its use of BZ." Clinical studies with EA-2277 (the code number for BZ) were initiated at Edgewood Arsenal in 1959 and continued until 1975. During this period an estimated twenty-eight hundred soldiers were exposed to the superhallucinogen. A number of military personnel have since come forward claiming that they were never the same after their encounter with BZ. Robert Bowen, a former air force enlisted man, felt disoriented for several weeks after his exposure. Bowen said the drug produced a temporary feeling of insanity but that he reacted less severely than other test subjects. One paratrooper lost all muscle control for a time and later seemed totally divorced from reality "The last time I saw him," said Bowen, "he was taking a shower in his uniform and smoking a cigar." During the early 1960s the CIA and the military began to phase out their in-house acid tests in favor of more powerful chemicals such as BZ, which became the army's standard incapacitating agent. By this time the superhallucinogen was ready for deployment in a grenade, a 750-pound cluster bomb, and at least one other large-scale bomb. In addition the army tested a number of other advanced BZ munitions, including mortar, artillery, and missile warheads. The superhallucinogen was later employed by American troops as a counterinsurgency weapon in Vietnam, and according to CIA documents there may be contingency plans to use the drug in the event of a major civilian insurrection. As Major General William Creasy warned shortly after he retired from the Army Chemical Corps, "We will use these things as we very well see fit, when we think it is in the best interest of the US and their allies."


Posted by: 3dc || 04/28/2006 21:04 Comments || Top||

#61  That would be good to announce. Then add, any CBN attacks and Iran and NK get hit instantly.

What you suggest is reminiscent of Mrs. Davis's plan that all rogue nations and terror supporters be put on notice that a single NBC (Nuclear Biological Chemical) attack upon American soil gets all of them glassed over and Windexed, regardless of where the attack originated.

I approve of such measures. The notion that these psychotic mass murderers can hide behind the skirts of "non-nation" status is a bit too much. We know which nations are sponsoring terrorism. The nations that sponsor terrorism know who they are as well. Drop the effing charade and call a spade a spade. "Axis of Evil" was a good start, now it's time to make good on our ability to deter. I've long discussed deterents to terrorism at these boards. Perhaps this one might be the most functional. It certainly might force the terror sponsors to go scrambling after all of the loose cannons they've unleashed upon this world.

Posted by: Zenster || 04/28/2006 21:39 Comments || Top||

#62  Steve, did not mean to misquote you. And, as I too said I think we should try our level best to give an internal revolution the best chance for happening. So, I agree with you and LH though I am more pessimistic and believe that the deployment of new Russian SAMs rather than nuke capablity is the clock we now need to watch. Bombing will be the 'least bad' solution if we have to do it. Unfortunately doing nothing will be worse.
Posted by: JAB || 04/28/2006 22:19 Comments || Top||



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