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Close shave for Somali prez in assassination boom
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Africa Horn
Somalia's president escapes assassination attempt; 11 killed
Somalia's president narrowly escaped an assassination attempt Monday by a suicide car bomber outside the parliament building, officials said. The blast and a subsequent gunbattle left 11 people dead, including the president's brother. There was no immediate claim of responsibility for the attack in Baidoa, the only town controlled by the government. But if it is linked to an Islamic militia that has seized control of much of southern Somalia, it could cause peace talks between the two sides to fall apart.
Right. Try to assassinate me and I'll quit talking to you, too.
"It was definitely a suicide bombing," Foreign Minister Ismail Mohamed Hurre told The Associated Press in Nairobi, Kenya, saying it was clear from the state of the attacker's remains. The bomb exploded outside the parliament building where President Abdullahi Yusuf had given a speech about 10 minutes earlier, said Mohamed Adawe, a journalist who witnessed the blast.

Yusuf's bodyguards chased suspected bombers, killing six of them in a gunbattle. The five other dead — including the president's brother — were in the his convoy, officials said. "This explosion was intended to kill the president, but he escaped and he is safe," government spokesman Abdirahman Dinari said.

Eight cars were burned in the blast, including three from Yusuf's convoy. The blast came a day after a nun was gunned down outside a hospital where she worked in Mogadishu, about 150 miles from Baidoa. There was no claim of responsibility, but many fear the shooting could be linked to worldwide Muslim anger toward Pope Benedict XVI.
I'd say the nun murder certainly is, though the Islamic Courts say warlords bumped her off for their own nefarious purposes.
Somali Foreign Minister Ismail Mohamed Hurre said the government believes the nun's killing and Monday's car bomb have "the hallmarks of al-Qaeda."
I'd call both the nun's murder and the car boom more up the alley of the Islamic courts. They bumped a kid off yesterday for watching a soccer match, and they'd certainly be happy to count coup on a fearsome enemy like a 65-year-old nun. The car boom's a fairly standard move in Islamic diplomacy.
The terror organization's leader, Osama bin Laden, has called Somalia a battleground in his war on the West. "Osama bin Laden has made it clear he wants to do harm to the government and to the president in particular," Hurre told The Associated Press in Nairobi, Kenya. He also said the government believes the same people were responsible for both attacks. He did not elaborate.
Posted by: Fred || 09/19/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Holy Walid! Is that a tree and bushes and paved roads and a house with actual windows in the background? Glad to see that the UN has been in there doing some damn impressive rebuidling and landscaping.
Posted by: jack is Back! || 09/19/2006 10:43 Comments || Top||

#2  Trying to sssassinate the president of Somalia would probably be the eqivalent of trying to assassinate my garbage man.
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/19/2006 19:06 Comments || Top||


Bangladesh
Tales from the Crossfire Gazette
Drug peddler killed in Rab 'encounter'
A drug peddler was killed in an encounter with the members of Rapid Action Battalion (Rab) at a residential hotel in the city yesterday morning.
Not even a commie, perhaps they needed a 'encounter' to keep qualified
He was identified as Raihan Ahmed Nahid, 30, of Joydevpur in Gazipur district.

According to a Rab press release, four drug peddlers were arrested along with 1000 bottles of phensidyl from a Dhaka-bound microbus in Nawdapara area of the city in the early hours of Sunday.
Phensidyl is a codine-based cough medicine. Drug of choice for Bangla teenagers
They are Sohrab Hossain of Rampura in Dhaka, Babul of Rajshahi, and Jasim and Belal of Comilla.
Grabbed the dealers and had them give up their supplier
On their confessional statements, the members of the elite force raided Hotel Classic at around 1:15am to arrest Nahid.
Just another episode of "COPS - Joydevpur"
The Rab men knocked at the door of room no 305, but Nahid did not respond.
"Candygram"
Minutes later he opened the door and fired on the law enforcers, prompting them to retaliate.
"Youse will never take me alive, coppers!"
"OK"
Nahid received bullets in the head and died instantly.
Not even time for "Rosebud"

The Rab members also arrested three accomplices of the drug peddler at the hotel. They are Jandar Ali, Ershad and Pradip of Bagha upazila in Rajshahi.
A local pistol and two bullets were recovered from the hotel room where Nahid was staying.
We assume this will be booked as the weapon Nahid "fired" on the cops with. They'd never plant a pistol on a dead drug dealer, right?
Nahid was an accused in 10 cases including one for murder, the press release said.
And now, "He's dead, Jim"


Young man dies in custody
A young man held by Rapid Action Battalion with a pipe gun 14 days ago died of a cardiac arrest on Sunday, police said.
Technically when your heart stops beating it is a cardiac arrest
Saiful Islam, 35, was arrested from Angtipara village in Mithapukur upazila while preparing for a robbery on the night of September 4.
I thought he was a "young man"?
He was handed over to the police and later the court sent him to prison.
Prison can be bad for your health
Saiful died at Rangpur Medical College Hospital.

4 cops hurt in bomb blasts
Four policemen were injured in a bomb attack in Rallygate area under Daulatpur Police Station in the city last night. The injured cops are Shah Alam, Wazed Ali, Shafi Ahmed and Shaher Ali. They are undergoing treatment at Police Hospital.

According to the officer-in-charge (OC) of Daulatpur Police Station, unidentified miscreants hurled a powerful bomb at the policemen while they were patrolling the area at 7:40 pm. There was no electricity in the area at that time, the OC said.
Got 4 cops with a bomb in the dark. Obviously, not any of Heks boys.
Police and Rab members cordoned off the area. Police arrested a man, but did not disclose his name. All police stations and police outposts have been put on high alert following the bomb attack. Police patrol teams have also been asked to remain on high alert while on duty.
Posted by: Steve || 09/19/2006 11:24 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That settles it. I'm canceling my reservation at Hotel Classic. Too noisy.
Posted by: Phineter Thraviger1073 || 09/19/2006 12:45 Comments || Top||

#2  Police and Rab members cordoned off the area. Police arrested a man, but did not disclose his name.

If they stick to the schedule, I figure we'll know it in about four or five days...
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/19/2006 19:09 Comments || Top||


Britain
UK terror suspect goes silent 'to protect family in Pakistan'
LONDON: A terrorist suspect on trial in London stopped giving evidence on Monday, saying he was worried about the safety of his family in Pakistan if he continued to do so. Omar Khyam, who is accused with six others of plotting a bombing campaign in Britain with more than half a ton of fertiliser explosive, said he had been contacted by the Pakistani Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI). "The ISI in Pakistan has had words with my family relating to what I have been saying about them," he told the court. "I think they are worried I might reveal more about them, so right now, as much as I want to clarify matters, the priority for me has to be the safety of my family, therefore I am going to stop," he added, according to the BBC.

In evidence last Thursday, Khyam said he had gone to Pakistan in 2000 to train with ISI, so he could help "free Kashmir", the Himalayan egion claimed by both India and Pakistan. Khyam (24) and six others accused of being a British Al Qaida linked cell were arrested in March 2004 after the fertiliser was discovered in a west London storage depot. Khyam has yet to explain why he allegedly bought it.
Posted by: Fred || 09/19/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  More evidence that ISI are involved in all kinds of terrorism in Pakistan and worldwide.

They need sorting Bush/Blair asap!!!!!!
Posted by: Cheregum Crelet7867 || 09/19/2006 6:10 Comments || Top||

#2  Vee know you have family in Argentina!
Posted by: Snineger Spavitle5395 || 09/19/2006 9:28 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
US-Indian counterinsurgency exercises in Hawaii
SCHOFIELD BARRACKS — Forty Indian soldiers in jungle camouflage descend on a mock village in the central O'ahu mountains, hunting for insurgents. American officers watch for lessons they can apply when leading their own soldiers through the same course on a U.S. Army training ground.

The troops are on the island for the biggest joint drills the Indian and U.S. armies have had to date, the latest sign of growing military relations between the two nuclear powers.

The bilateral exercise, called Yudh Abhyas, or "training for war" in Hindi, started four years ago with a handful of Indian and U.S. soldiers. It has since ballooned to feature hundreds of troops, including 140 Indians who flew to Hawai'i, which hosts the U.S. Pacific Command, whose reach extends to their homeland.

"It's a tremendous expansion," said Col. Dinesh Singh, of the Indian army's 3rd Battalion, 9th Gurkha Rifles. He added the exercises were now teaching platoons from the two nations how to talk to each other in the field, moving beyond the basics of training individual soldiers.

The U.S.-Indian military relationship is relatively young, with the two sides having had little interaction during the Cold War, when socialist India was closer to the Soviet Union. They found more common ground in the 1990s, a trend that accelerated after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, which led the United State to seek India as a partner in the war against terror.

Analysts say the United States is eager to deepen military ties with India to learn some of the counterinsurgency methods India's military has cultivated during its long battle against separatists in Kashmir. The Americans also want India's large navy to help patrol the seas for terrorists and pirates, analysts say.

There's also a U.S. desire to use India to balance China's growing power and influence, said Itty Abraham, research fellow with the Washington, D.C., office of Hawai'i's East-West Center.

"From the government's point of view, India has become, though people in Washington won't admit it so openly — it's not a nice thing to say — America's counterweight to China," said Abraham.

India, meanwhile, is eager to learn from the world's most technologically advanced military.

Donald L. Berlin, a professor at the Asia-Pacific Center for Security Studies in Honolulu, said India also believes a closer relationship with the United States will help it become a bigger power in the Indian Ocean, in South Asia, and in the world.

The friendship has its obstacles, of course.

The U.S. Congress hasn't approved an agreement signed by the two nation's leaders in March that allows U.S. civil nuclear trade with India in return for safeguards and inspections at India's 14 civilian nuclear plants.

Supporters say the deal strengthens a strategic relationship with a friendly country that has long maintained a responsible nuclear program. Plus it would provide clean energy to a country desperate to fuel a booming economy.

Critics counter that the plan encourages the spread of nuclear weapons and fans an India-Pakistan nuclear arms race by effectively giving U.S. recognition to India's nuclear weapons program. They also complain the agreement doesn't allow for inspections at India's eight military plants.

Such concerns were remote at Schofield Barracks, however.

Maj. Bob Risdon, who designed the exercises for the U.S. Army's 1st Battalion, 21st Infantry Regiment, said U.S. troops could learn from how Indian forces requested homeowners to lead them on searches of their homes. They were less intrusive in searching people's homes and cars, a tactic that could help when troops are trying to earn the trust of the local population, he said.

"You can figure out a lot about people that way, too. You can figure out if they're trying to hide something," Risdon said.

Lt. Col. Matt Kelley, the 1st Battalion commander, said the way Indians ambushed and disarmed two insurgents impressed him. American troops, in the same drill, simply shot and killed the men, he said.

"They've just gained huge intelligence value from that — instead of killing them, they've captured them," Kelley said. "All our guys said whoa — we'd never do that. We could do it."

Singh, the Indian army commander, said he valued the heightened reality of the U.S. designed exercises, which forced troops to react quickly and rely on their reflexes.

"India is the world's largest democracy. They're a strategic partner for the United States and an important friend for the United States," said Col. Mark Haskins, the U.S. Pacific Command's South Asia policy chief.
Posted by: john || 09/19/2006 17:18 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1 
Cowboys and Indians....
Posted by: Master of Obvious || 09/19/2006 18:11 Comments || Top||

#2  Hindu Five-O
Posted by: Mike || 09/19/2006 18:13 Comments || Top||

#3  World leverage.
Posted by: newc || 09/19/2006 18:37 Comments || Top||

#4  it's not a nice thing to say

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LOL!
Posted by: 6 || 09/19/2006 19:05 Comments || Top||

#5  Article: Lt. Col. Matt Kelley, the 1st Battalion commander, said the way Indians ambushed and disarmed two insurgents impressed him. American troops, in the same drill, simply shot and killed the men, he said.

"They've just gained huge intelligence value from that — instead of killing them, they've captured them," Kelley said. "All our guys said whoa — we'd never do that. We could do it."


That's because battle casualties mean nothing to Indian commanders. An American commander with the same attitude would rapidly find himself in the private sector. The reality is that all of this "intelligence-gathering" hasn't ended a guerrilla war that has killed tens of thousands of Indians over decades.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 09/19/2006 22:26 Comments || Top||

#6  #4 ZF - It might also be because the Indians don't have to worry about the NYT, NBCCBSABCetc., and a bunch of grandstanding congressmen calling them criminals for interrogating non-uniformed combatants, and insisting on affording captured foreign terrorists the same rights American citizens have.

I quite frankly hope our forces never capture another terrorist. Kill him, according to the Geneva Convention that he and his ilk will never follow, and capture any cell phones, computers, papers, etc. They'll probably get as much useful information.
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 09/19/2006 23:05 Comments || Top||


American al Qaeda Spotted in Pakistan
The American al Qaeda, Adam Gadahn, was spotted last month in a remote area of Pakistan but moved before he could be captured, Pakistani intelligence officials tell ABC News. The officials say Gadahn, a native of Orange County, Calif., was seen in South Waziristan, where he is believed to be involved in the production of al Qaeda propaganda tapes. He has appeared several times in the last year on video tapes, predicting the streets of America will "run red with blood" and expressing his glee that the 9/ll attacks took place on "enemy soil."

U.S. law enforcement officials say Gadahn has taken an increasingly prominent role in the hierarchy of al Qaeda. He is believed to report to the No. 2 leader, Ayman al-Zawahiri. Pakistani officials say they are "hot on the trail" of Gadahn, although South Waziristan is one of the areas where Pakistani soldiers have been ordered to stay in their barracks as part of a "peace agreement" between the Pakistani government and tribal militants believed to shelter al Qaeda and Taliban elements.

Gadahn was indicted earlier this month by a federal grand jury on charges of providing material support to terrorism. U.S. law enforcement officials say if he is captured inside Pakistan, the indictment will serve as a legal mechanism to have him immediately turned over to U.S. custody.
Maybe John McCain can put him up for a few days, huh?
Posted by: Fred || 09/19/2006 07:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The American al Qaeda, Adam Gadahn, was spotted last month in a remote area of Pakistan but moved before he could be captured

Who wants him captured?
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 09/19/2006 7:27 Comments || Top||

#2  No surprise all Al Qaeda/Taliban can be found in Pakistan.

Look forward to the day we can carpet bomb Waziristan/Quetta
Posted by: Cheregum Crelet7867 || 09/19/2006 7:55 Comments || Top||

#3  no extradition if he's captured. Pliars and panties, then a shallow anonymous grave
Posted by: Frank G || 09/19/2006 9:19 Comments || Top||

#4  He'd look a lot better with a .50 cal hole where most of his head used to be.
Posted by: Fred || 09/19/2006 9:28 Comments || Top||

#5  A native of Orange County, CA. No surprise there. San Andreas, why do you not hear my prayers and exhortations? Why have you not move to Pacificize the infidels?

On the bright side:

"That American Taliban kid Johnny Walker was indicted today. Ten counts of terrorism. He could get 5 life sentences. In Taliban terms, that's 360 virgins." —Jay Leno



Posted by: Besoeker || 09/19/2006 9:35 Comments || Top||

#6  "spotted last month in a remote area of Pakistan but moved before he could be captured"
Translation: He pays the bribes.

"one of the areas where Pakistani soldiers have been ordered to stay in their barracks"
Translation: Using soldiers as human shields to keep us from glassing over the place.

I've got twenty bucks that says some day we will learn that alQaeda bigwigs live within five miles of the barracks. Maybe even inside the barracks.
Posted by: Darrell || 09/19/2006 9:46 Comments || Top||

#7  Whaddabout DC?

I-395 is shutdown right outside my office for a shooting (?) investigation. I think I saw a guy in white robes and a turban fleeing the scene.

More Al-Q probing, in preparation for the big one Binny warned us about.

Convert now!

The freeway really is shut down, however.
Posted by: Bobby || 09/19/2006 10:00 Comments || Top||

#8  Just dispatch a fire team and dispose of this mug, please.
Posted by: badanov || 09/19/2006 10:35 Comments || Top||

#9  I think I saw a guy in white robes and a turban fleeing the scene.

You say he ducked into Marlow furniture? Ok, fine.....but can you be a bit more specific? That could be any one of 20,000 cab drivers from Quantico to Washington National.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/19/2006 10:39 Comments || Top||

#10  His hair looks freshly shampooed and brushed, but look at that pathetic attempt at facial hair, the overplucked "unibrow", and the spots covered with tinted Clearasil. He looks like an unjustifiably smug schoolboy playing at being Baaaaad. Which, I suspect, is all they are really letting him do.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/19/2006 10:58 Comments || Top||

#11  TW, you mean kneeling down singing baaaaa.
He's got another job in the service industry.
Posted by: wxjames || 09/19/2006 12:59 Comments || Top||

#12  Well he's certainly got the sheets for it.
That is an old picture. In his big video a couple of weeks ago, he was fat, swathed in sheets and had a nice big bushy beard.
Posted by: J.D. Lux || 09/19/2006 13:06 Comments || Top||

#13  I think that's his high school graduation picture. "Rock on...INFIDEL!"
I hope the next pic we see of him, there won't be anything left from the nose up...
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/19/2006 13:14 Comments || Top||

#14  I most certainly do not, wxjames. There are a great many things I prefer not to think about beyond academic generalities.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/19/2006 13:17 Comments || Top||

#15  Since he reports to # 2 Ayman al-Zawahiri, does that make him a #3, and thus eligible for being hit??
Posted by: USN, ret. || 09/19/2006 13:35 Comments || Top||

#16  A native of Orange County, CA. No surprise there. San Andreas, why do you not hear my prayers and exhortations? Why have you not move to Pacificize the infidels?

Actually, Orange County is the most conservative area of California, and I don't mean RINO style conservative, I mean Goldwater/Ronald Reagan Conservative. Credit the Santa Ana (now Orange County) Register, a conservative newspaper that always had fun shafting the pretensious editorializing of the Los Angeles Times up north.

I should know: I grew up in OC and read the Register every day. Think Rantburg in print.

My guess is that the county is not squeaky clean of liberals: the vote was about 80% republican, so 20% of the voters are liberals, one of whom probably had a kid who, in righteous indignation against the oppressive and vast Right Wing Conspiracy, elected to join al Qaeda. The vast majority of sane people make the nuts more nutty, I suppose...
Posted by: Ptah || 09/19/2006 13:49 Comments || Top||

#17  Ilive in OC as well, and this is not Johnny Jihads Marin County. This is more like Marine county. There are so many former-Marine judges and lawyers here, the Register once called it, lovingly, the Marine Corps Mafia.
Posted by: Sgt. D.T. || 09/19/2006 17:18 Comments || Top||

#18  our neighbor to the north of my San Diego (Orange County) has nothing to apologize for, your blanket condemnations of CA as a land of fruit and nuts pisses me off. The Bay area, Santa Cruz, LA/Santa Monica, maybe, but the interior and the south coastal are strongly red and support our military. I'd demand an apology if I cared enough about the stupid knee-jerk jokes. Remember that the next time you rap the entire state. The state is damn near as big as any three or four combined of those condemning. F*ck it :-(
Posted by: Frank G || 09/19/2006 20:11 Comments || Top||

#19  Too many hard landings, Frank.
Posted by: Pappy || 09/19/2006 20:31 Comments || Top||

#20  I used to live in OC from 1984 to 99. Towards the end, I was dismayed that the LA infection seemed to be spreading down the Santa Ana freeway.
Posted by: Jackal || 09/19/2006 22:19 Comments || Top||

#21  He is a girly man and vewy welcum in the lands of the Waziri or Baluchi. Zawhaaherewewee welcums him to as a new stable boy for those lonely midnite rides into Miram Shah and remote happy valleys. Go thither and dither young girly man and rideth thy mathsters in yonder dark caves and snuggle up to their smelly hairy arm pits and suck on their flappy lips till you ectasy scream in your sicko lustful perverted coucous-infested pea brain. Dude... I mean duchess, you are not only a loser but will be raped and murdered soon by some lonely boys on flat-tire bicycles in some begotten and forgotten Northwest Frontier province village. You will be forgotten and spat upon by your so-called brother-sisters as they chuckle and joke as they pass by your rotted body. They won't even remember you when they are converting not-so-quick sheep to their moon god by the light of Satan's cresent.
Posted by: Fun Dung Poo || 09/19/2006 20:01 Comments || Top||


Suspected LeT terrorists arrested in Ahmedabad
Two suspected Lashkar-e-Taiba (LeT) militants were arrested from Ahmedabad and several documents have been seized from them, police said. "The two suspected terrorists of the LeT belong to a sleeper cell operating in the city. Several incriminating documents in Urdu and a letter pad of the outfit has been seized", a senior official of the crime branch said.

Acting on intelligence reports, police raided a guesthouse in Kalupur area in the old city, leading to the arrests, he said. The two arrested persons have been identified as Ilyas and Khalid. "As per our information, Ilyas is a local of Ahmedabad while Khalid is his lover from Jammu and Kashmir. However they are not revealing any information at this stage", the crime branch official said. The state has been on an alert following bomb blasts in Mumbai and Malegaon with heightened security at all public places.
Posted by: Fred || 09/19/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  As they are trained by the ISI they will be realeased in a few days!!!!
Posted by: Cheregum Crelet7867 || 09/19/2006 13:15 Comments || Top||


ATC acquits man accused of attack on Musharraf
RAWALPINDI: An anti-terrorism court in Rawalpindi on Monday acquitted Nazir Ahmad Khan, who was allegedly involved in an attack on President Gen Pervez Musharraf in Rawalpindi. Khan, a resident of Peshawar, was acquitted when Special Court Magistrate Safdar Hussain Malik found no substantial evidence against him.
Posted by: Fred || 09/19/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Bwahahahahahahaha!!!

Suck it up, Perv. You deserve this in spades.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/19/2006 0:13 Comments || Top||

#2  Special Court Magistrate Safdar Hussain Malik found no substantial evidence against him. and further ordered that Khan be reinstated with ISI with backpay and accrued interest.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/19/2006 9:28 Comments || Top||


Man claims Mecca fatwa authorised cleric's murder
KARACHI: A Pakistani businessman who shot dead a Muslim cleric over alleged blasphemy has claimed the killing was blessed by a Saudi-based religious scholar, a police official said on Monday. Shoaib Khan killed cleric Nadeem Ahmed on August 31 as he delivered a sermon at his home in Karachi. Shoaib later surrendered to the police, while showing no remorse for the murder since he believed the cleric had committed repeated offences of blasphemy, police official Mohammad Khalid said.

"Shoaib has been charged with murder and claims that Nadeem used to insult Islamic teachings and the Holy Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) his sermons," Khalid told Reuters. "Shoaib says he recently went on a pilgrimage to Mecca, where he got a fatwa (edict) from a religious scholar saying it was okay to kill Nadeem as his sermons were blasphemous. Shoaib has no regrets over the murder and is content with himself. He says he has done it for Islam." The dead cleric had run his own missionary organisation, and police have been checking to which sect it belonged to determine whether the murder was motivated by sectarian hatred.
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#1  There is this siriusly annoying neighbor...I would like to know how much is worth a fatwa nowadays...
Posted by: twobyfour || 09/19/2006 1:11 Comments || Top||

#2  "The Devil made me do it. I have proof."
Posted by: gorb || 09/19/2006 1:57 Comments || Top||

#3  Pakiwakis, you have the blessings of Grom---supreme priest of Unga Bunga---to kill each other.
Posted by: gromgoru || 09/19/2006 6:10 Comments || Top||

#4  Who knows what type of blasphemy the murdered imam was preaching. Shiaism? Or was this some imam arguing that maybe Allah wants muzzies to take a deep breath and chill the &%#& out. That's the kind of message you can imagine would immediatedly brand a dangerous heresey.
Posted by: Monsieur Moonbat || 09/19/2006 8:31 Comments || Top||

#5  Actually, no blasphemy was involved, the businessman had just borrowed a lot of money from the imam and didn't want to pay any of it back. "Blasphemy" is a time-honored Islamic term for "loan forgiveness."
Posted by: Croling Shineck2383 || 09/19/2006 9:40 Comments || Top||

#6  Corrupt holy man, mysterious fatwas, blasphemy, sectarian hatred, murder. A regular "Karachi Confidential". Dig deep enough and I'm sure we'll find pedophelia and goat fucking...
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/19/2006 9:49 Comments || Top||

#7  "Dig deep enough and I'm sure we'll find......."

That won't be a very deep hole.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 09/19/2006 11:32 Comments || Top||

#8  Here in America we avoid such laborious concepts as "dig deep enough" and, instead, go with "scratch the surface".
Posted by: Zenster || 09/19/2006 16:14 Comments || Top||

#9  America: an entire continent full of efficiency experts. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/19/2006 22:40 Comments || Top||


Man declared absconder in US consulate blast case
KARACHI: Judge Haq Nawaz Baloch of Anti-Terrorism Court-V (ATC-V) declared Monday Qari Mohammad Zafar, one of the accused in the US consulate suicide bomb blast case, an absconder and directed for copies of the witnesses to be provided to the lawyers of the accused. Accused Anwarul Haq and Usman Ghani were arrested five months after the incident that killed four people, including US diplomat David Foy, and injured 48 in March this year on the eve of US President George W Bush’s visit to Pakistan.

In the charge sheet, the police have shown accused Anwarul Haq and Usman Ghani in custody, identified the suicide bomber as Mohammad Tahir and Mohammad Zafar as the accused still at large. Declaring Mohammad Zafar as an absconder, the court directed the investigation officer to arrest him and present him before the court at the next hearing on September 25.

The suicide bomber had on March 2 rammed his explosives-laden car into a diplomatic vehicle of the US Consulate just in front of its back entrance, killing Foy and three security personnel. According to the charge sheet, the investigation officer of the case, Inspector Mohammad Tariq, received a tip-off during the investigation that Mohammad Tahir (son of Raja Afzal), a resident of Future Colony, Landhi, had been missing since the day of the suicide attack.

When the IO interviewed Raja Afzal, he said that his son had fought in Afghanistan against American forces and had also been held for some time in Shabargan Jail. He said Mohammad Tahir had left home on March 2 early in the morning and when he did not return, the family thought that he had gone to Afghanistan again. In June, an invalid man had come to meet him and said that Mohammad Tahir was in Afghanistan, Raja Afzal told the police. In July, Tahir’s brother Idrees, a student at Binori seminary learnt through the same person that Tahir had died in Afghanistan.

According to the IO, however, when Raja Afzal showed him the photograph of Mohammad Tahir, his faced bore a great resemblance with the suicide attacker’s. The IO submitted in the charge sheet that he then took samples of the suicide attacker and Raja Afzal and Idrees and sent them for DNA testing which later proved that the suicide attacker was indeed Mohammad Tahir. Later, the police arrested Anwarul Haq, who used to visit Tahir’s family after his disappearance, and on his indication arrested the other accused Usman Ghani. According to the charge sheet, both the accused confessed that they along with absconder Mohammad Zafar had planned and executed the suicide attack and brought the explosives-laden car from Waziristan.
Posted by: Fred || 09/19/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  and directed for copies of the witnesses to be provided to the lawyers of the accused.

they're cloning the nutcases now? grreeeaaatt
Posted by: Frank G || 09/19/2006 9:22 Comments || Top||

#2  LOL, Frank G. Engrish. It's not just for the Japanese anymore. :)
Posted by: flyover || 09/19/2006 10:30 Comments || Top||

#3  :-)
Posted by: Frank G || 09/19/2006 12:17 Comments || Top||

#4  I don't get it.
Posted by: Dolly || 09/19/2006 19:14 Comments || Top||


Court convicts Muslim pair in Mumbai blasts
MUMBAI: A court convicted two Muslim men on Monday for murdering 10 people in a bombing outside a Mumbai cinema during 'Black Friday' 13 years ago when 257 were killed in India's worst terrorist attack. Asgar Yusuf Mukadam and Shahnawaz Qureshi parked a van packed with explosives set to go off outside the cinema during a two-hour citywide blitz in the capital city in 1993. Seven people have now been convicted over the attacks, including three alleged bombers, with verdicts for the rest of the 123 defendants expected in the coming weeks. Three people have been acquitted. Prosecutors said Monday's verdicts proved for the first time that a bomber had received training at a camp in Pakistan, where Qureshi had been sent by the alleged plot leaders.
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Taliban execute Tribesman
WANA: Pro-Taliban militants on Monday executed a tribesman in Laddha village, South Waziristan tribal district, after convicting him of double murder, officials and witnesses said. Sangeen Khan, who was shot dead, was charged with killing a rival and the latter's spouse after torching a house last year, said an official. Murders and other disputes in the area are settled by councils of tribal elders called jirgas. The government this month signed a peace deal with tribal elders in neighbouring North Waziristan, under which Al Qaeda fighters would be expelled.
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Blast damages 24 vehicles
Peshawar: A powerful blast damaged 24 vehicles in a parking lot next to West Cantonment police station on Monday, but there were no casualties. "Four vehicles have been destroyed," said Senior Superintendent of Police (Operations) Iftikhar Hussain Shah. Police said it was too early to tell the cause of the blast. NWFP IGP Mohammad Raffat Pasha said the vehicle that exploded had a CNG kit installed in it, and a gas leakage could have caused the blast. Witnesses, however, said the gas cylinder of the vehicle had not been damaged.
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2 soldiers hurt in Shakai attack
DERA ISMAIL KHAN: Suspected Islamic militants seriously injured two Pakistani soldiers in an attack on a military base in a northern tribal region, an intelligence official said on Monday. Militants fired three rockets and fired assault rifles at the post on Sunday night in Shakai, a mountain valley and a former militant stronghold in South Waziristan, said the official. He said that two soldiers were seriously wounded in the ensuing battle and taken to a military hospital in Wana, South Waziristan's main town. It was unknown if the assailants suffered casualties.
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Quetta blast injures five
QUETTA: A time bomb exploded in a crowded market in the Baloch capital on Monday, injuring two policemen and three civilians, police said. The "low-intensity" device blew up in a shop in Quetta's crowded Meezan Chowk market, police official Manzoor Bhatti told Agence France Presse. One policeman from the Frontier Constabulary was seriously injured while the other victims had light shrapnel wounds and were being treated at a government hospital, he said. Police said a suspect had been arrested. No one claimed responsibility for the blast.
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Iraq
Operation Matador Photo Tour
Pics at link. Notice the little girl hamming it up for the photographer!
Posted by: Bobby || 09/19/2006 14:20 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


2nd Recon Battalion Marines stir the hornet’s nest in Operation Rubicon
AoS note: Golf Bravo, please provide a link or future posts won't be accepted.
By Gunnery Sgt. Mark Oliva, 1st Marine Division

Marines from B Company's 3rd Platoon stand next to one of the many weapons' caches they dug from the ground during Operation Rubicon in Mushin, Iraq, west of Habbaniyah. The Recon Marines unearthed hundreds of mortars, artillery shells, rifles, machines guns, ammunition and improvised explosive device-making materials. Marines found so many caches, they said they could barely make it 100 meters before discovering another buried weapons' site.

CAMP FALLUJAH, Iraq (Aug. 29, 2006) -- Marines from 2nd Reconnaissance Battalion kicked over the hornet’s nest during Operation Rubicon in Mushin, west of Habbaniyah. What they found underneath was a lot deadlier than a stinger.

They battled insurgents in running gunfights lasting nearly an entire day and scored hundreds of weapons finds in a several-day operation.

Recon Marines, working in support of 3rd Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, Regimental Combat Team 5, uncovered hundreds of weapons, artillery and mortar rounds, improvised explosive device-making material, small arms and ammunition.

In all, they recovered more than 500 mortars rounds, nearly 100 artillery rounds, more than 130 rocket-propelled grenades, more than 120 grenades, 22 mines, 10 mortar tubes, 20 rifles and machine guns, 18 sets of body armor and various other items including binoculars and bayonets.

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Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 09/19/2006 07:39 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Linky thingy no workee
Posted by: Bobby || 09/19/2006 10:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Best way to deal with these idiots. Kick the nest they live in and then kill them all with MarineRaid!

Go get 'em!
Posted by: DarthVader || 09/19/2006 10:13 Comments || Top||

#3  Excellent story! Thanks, GolfBravoUSMC!

Now, didn't someone mention arclight the other day? Can there be a place more deserving than al-Anbar and Baghdad and Basra and Tehran and Qom and Bandar Abbas and everything in between? To be closely followed by OP's desire to level the mountainous region on the Afghan - PakiLand border, of course...

So many targets, with the Sunnis now screaming for arms and protection (LOL, YJCMTSU), so few iron bombs left...
Posted by: flyover || 09/19/2006 10:16 Comments || Top||

#4  Cordon the whole area, forcemarch all those there out of the perimeters.

Then "Clear by fire" the caches: MOAB the area.
Posted by: Oldspook || 09/19/2006 10:25 Comments || Top||

#5  Whos paying for all these Caches-Saudi, Iran or Syria come to mind!!!!
Posted by: Cheregum Crelet7867 || 09/19/2006 11:03 Comments || Top||

#6  CC 7867, all of them are involved. We're delusional if we think this isn't a regional action. Even the ones remaining quiet like Egypt and Turkey are assisting covertly. I don't see anything positive developing here, even with all the blood and toil expended. These Marines are doing a great job. It'd just that when they are out of sight, the scumbags slink back. The locals have no motivation to stop them. "You can lead the horse to water, but you can't make it drink." I just object to the overall strategy coming out of the Pentagon/White House. It ignores history in revealing the proper method of dealing with this area.
Posted by: SOP35/Rat || 09/19/2006 11:23 Comments || Top||

#7  Bravo Zulu lads. Keep up the good work.

I am sure the Regimental S-2 is getting good intel on where said weapons originated from and supply routes there of. I would also not be surprised if the G-2/J-2 of MNF-W Iraq has not contacted some "higher" ups and let them know where the ammo is being supplied from. A few U.S. cruise missiles need to "malfunction" and hit said suppliers by "mistake."

Posted by: Broadhead6 || 09/19/2006 11:56 Comments || Top||

#8  Is this operation over or ongoing ?
Posted by: wxjames || 09/19/2006 12:52 Comments || Top||

#9  The Operation ended the first week of September.

Many of the weapons were displayed in freshly plowed fields. (Winter crops) The farmers had to know they were there and where the mines were located.

We need a little Roman Carthage treatment here. Sow salt on the fields where the caches were found.
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 09/19/2006 13:17 Comments || Top||

#10  No salt sowing, please. There's limited enough arable land, and much too much desert, as it is. There are plenty of other effective interdiction methods, I'm sure.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/19/2006 13:27 Comments || Top||

#11  yeah, kill the farmer. There's a lot of them available to restock
Posted by: Frank G || 09/19/2006 13:28 Comments || Top||

#12  How do we know the intelligence that led to all these finds was not provided by the farmers? Supposing we find out some farmer did rat out the islamic crusaders? Would we hear about it if he was tortured and killed, his family ... well, you know. Would we? It's be lost in the '50 bodies discovered today' story.

And what if one guy ratted and six families were rubbed out by the terrs, 'cuz they wanna be sure they got the rat?

Ya remember reading about empty houses in Baghdad with the note left that said, "clear out"? Remember reading about folks getting wacked trying to leave? I can't imagine what the terror of being Iraqi and wanting to help save my country is like. Hope I never have to. Remember the doctor who leaked the location of the captured American girl -- oh, what's her name? the kids that have told our soldiers and Marines that there's a bomb in the middle of the road? The Iraqis that tried for hours to recover our guys from a Hummer turned over in a canal, after our guys were exhausted?

Let's not be so quick to judge all 25 million Iraqis, eh?

/tolerance lecture

Posted by: Bobby || 09/19/2006 14:36 Comments || Top||

#13  OK Skip the salt. Using a 2nd Century Roman solution on a person with a 7th Century mentality would be beyond their depth.

More Humane solution:

The farmers and the terrorist are sharecropping weapons. With Marine supervision, have the farmers harvest the weapons crop. Since the farmers do not have a weapons crop allotment, confiscate the crop.

The confiscated weapons crop should be made part of the School Lunch Program for the Madrassas in Pakiland. Well fused and carefully placed they will wipe out hunger.

The boys in the Madrassa will have a shortcut to martyrdom. They will have 72 virgins each to lead them through puberty. No dry humping in the back of a jitney.

Net/Net The farmers will have cover from the terrorist. The weapons are put to good use and out of circulation. A more dangerous crop, Jihadis, is short circuited around the process of achieving Paradise.

It's a win, win, win situation.
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 09/19/2006 15:16 Comments || Top||

#14  did I have to do the
"/tongue in cheek"?
Posted by: Frank G || 09/19/2006 15:23 Comments || Top||

#15  Sorry, Frank; it'd didn't seem very 'civil' of you!
Posted by: Bobby || 09/19/2006 16:43 Comments || Top||

#16  Bobby lots of engineers are civil, but sum of 'em drive us contractors nutz!!
Posted by: RD || 09/19/2006 16:59 Comments || Top||

#17  AoS Where do you want the link? In the source box?
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 09/19/2006 17:25 Comments || Top||

#18  AoS I got it, put it in the headline. Please excuse the new guy. While many were attending college I was developing an allergy to hot lead. But, I can still learn and take constructive criticism.
Link
2nd Recon Battalion Marines stir the hornet’s nest in Operation Rubicon

Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 09/19/2006 17:43 Comments || Top||

#19  CC 7867, all of them are involved. We're delusional if we think this isn't a regional action.

Regional? Code Pink helped fund the AQ nutters in Fallujah; odds are the "charity" raided yesterday funneled cash to the "insurgents", and we know the European Muslims *AND* leftists have been raising money and men for them.

Posted by: Rob Crawford || 09/19/2006 17:50 Comments || Top||

#20  What the article does not make clear is that Mushin is in Al Anbar Province, heartland of the Sunni Triangle. That is why there are so many weapon caches, and so much hostility to the US/Iraqi Militaries - SaddamLand. We need to be bringing in Kurdish and Shiite units as the local backup, and then just get out of their way. THEY will do what is necessary to convince the Sunnis to cease and desist; we just don't want to be too close or observing methods used. Believe me when I say that the Kurdish and Shiite units will make believers in peace out of the surviving Sunnis.
Posted by: Shieldwolf || 09/19/2006 18:57 Comments || Top||

#21  Don't feel bad, GolfBravoUSMC. We all had to climb the same learning curve here. At least I did. :-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/19/2006 22:45 Comments || Top||


Iraq poobahs chiefs up in arms, vow to fight al-Qaeda
Iraqi tribal chiefs in the so-called Sunni Triangle have agreed to join forces to fight al-Qaeda, and have pleaded for US supplies of arms.
We lost our arms fighting Marines in Fallujah. We also need some legs.
One leader said tribes in the city of Ramadi had assembled 20,000 men "ready to purge the city of these infidels". Ramadi, in Anbar province, is one of the cities at the heart of the Sunni rebellion against US troops and Iraqis….

Tribal leaders and clerics in Ramadi met last week to decide how to confront the daily bloodshed in their city. "People are fed up with the acts of those criminals who take Islam as a cover for their crimes," Sheik Fassal al-Guood told the Associated Press news agency on Monday. "The situation in the province is normal unbearable, the city is abandoned, most of the families have fled the city and all services are poor."

He said 15 of the 18 tribes in Ramadi "have sworn to fight those who are killing Sunnis and Shiites", and had put together "20,000 young men".
What about those killing Marines?

Another sheikh at the meeting, Sattar al-Buzayi, told Reuters that the tribal leaders had decided to take the fight to the Islamist terrorist militants who control parts of Ramadi and Anbar province. "We have now entered a real battle. It's either us or them," he said.

"We just want to live like everyone else. We're sick of all this bloodshed," said one Ramadi resident, voicing anger at al-Qaeda.

However, a young al-Qaeda leader called Abu Farouq told Reuters that the fight would go on until an Islamic cauliflower caliphate had been imposed across Anbar "This tribal system is un-Islamic. We are proud to kill tribal leaders who are helping the Americans," he said.
Everything is un-Islamic, including life!

Nonetheless, a US military spokesman, Maj Gen William Caldwell, said: "We're very optimistic about the future of that province." "But victory will not occur in the next 2-3 months, it's going to be a much longer time period." …….
Red on Red Rocks
Posted by: GolfBravoUSMC || 09/19/2006 06:30 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  What stops the tribes using the new arms against our soldiers????!!!!
Posted by: Cheregum Crelet7867 || 09/19/2006 7:58 Comments || Top||

#2  they have not had a prob getting arms up until now why we supposed too ggive them too them
Posted by: sinse || 09/19/2006 8:01 Comments || Top||

#3  This is a descision for the Iraqi govt, not us. If they want to give these idiots guns, then I guess that's what they will do. Frankly I don't trust these yahoos any more than the Al-Q bunch though.
Posted by: Spaviting Slaviger8729 || 09/19/2006 9:13 Comments || Top||

#4  We doan need no steeking AK-47. We wan the beeg stuff - JDAM and MOAB to wipe out purge the city of opposing tribesmen foreen fighters.
Posted by: Bobby || 09/19/2006 10:04 Comments || Top||

#5  Still, I suppose an optimist would take this as an encouraging sign....
Posted by: Bobby || 09/19/2006 10:05 Comments || Top||

#6  LOL, that's what I like about your comments, Bobby: ever the optimist. Encouraging? Nah, they're Arabs.
Posted by: flyover || 09/19/2006 10:17 Comments || Top||

#7  LOLOLOLOL, GolfBravoUSMC!

I just got it: "Up in arms..."

LOLOLOLOL!
Posted by: flyover || 09/19/2006 10:32 Comments || Top||

#8  Problem is we've cut back the number of coalition troops in Anbar to try to clean up Baghdad. Which makes sense, its far easier to lose the war in Baghdad than in Anbar, which as the poster points out, is not a particularly stable place in the best of times. OTOH does our side want to give up all the gains the USMC made in Anbar - cause thats whats happening right now. The number of coalition troops, plus first line Iraqi troops (the second line ones it seems are being sent to handle security in more quiet spots, which makes for nice handover ceremonies) simply isnt enough at this point to both take on Baghdad and Anbar, or so it seems.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 09/19/2006 12:01 Comments || Top||

#9  Join the Iraqi army and call in terrorist's positions. Throw off the yoke of Islam and you can live free.
Posted by: wxjames || 09/19/2006 12:55 Comments || Top||

#10  I'd say offer to train those "20,000 young men" in basic combat techniques, small-unit tactics, and C3I, but only after they've pledged their loyalty to the central government. Train them as a militia and let them begin taking on AQ in Ramadi. Give them unique weapons that no other force in Iraq is using. If any civilians or US forces are killed with those weapons, wipe the city clean.

We might even want to take 2000 of those men and give them other training, including some basic combat engineering training, and let them repair the infrastructure. Bring in a hundred CBs to train them. Who knows, it might even do some good...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 09/19/2006 13:02 Comments || Top||

#11  "If any civilians or US forces are killed with those weapons, wipe the city clean."

what does wipe the city clean mean? Kill all the adult males? Some other very harsh collective punishment. If Im AQ, and I know thats your policy, I do my level best to get my hands on one of those weapons, using every lever of threat, bribe, etc, Ive got. Then I use it to kill an American. Then bingo, Ive got the US turning an entire city my way.
Posted by: liberalhawk || 09/19/2006 13:36 Comments || Top||

#12  Would kinda make the Sunnis take extra care of their weapons, wouldn't it?
Posted by: Pappy || 09/19/2006 20:38 Comments || Top||

#13  Ive got the US turning an entire city my way.

apparently less the adult male population by your definition, eh, LH?
Posted by: Frank G || 09/19/2006 20:46 Comments || Top||

#14  LH - you KNOW I'm a big fan of ARCLIGHT. A city like RAMADI would look worse than the worst areas of Dresden after a half-dozen ARCLIGHT strikes. There would be no Sunnis turning to A-Q. There would be no inhabitants, and no city. I think everyone would get the message loud and clear.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 09/19/2006 22:32 Comments || Top||

#15  The liberal mindset at work. If we do anything, it will just make things worse.
Posted by: anon || 09/19/2006 22:41 Comments || Top||


Iraq violence kills 35 as govt expresses optimism
At least 35 people were killed across Iraq on Monday, including four members of a family shot dead by gunmen as they attempted to flee their homes north of Baghdad. After receiving repeated threats in their home in the restive provincial capital of Baquba, the family packed their belongings in a pickup truck and fled, only to be stopped on the road by gunmen who riddled their car with bullets, killing four and wounding five. Gunmen also killed two other Shiites busy packing up their belongings in a small town just to the west of Baquba, while 10 other people, three of them soldiers, were killed elsewhere in Diyala, a province where sectarian violence is equalled only by that in Baghdad itself.

The violence came even as the Iraqi government gave an optimistic assessment of the impact of a massive security operation in the capital and the return of displaced families to newly pacified neighborhoods. “We have statistics from the army unit in Ghazaliyah that some families have come back to their neighbourhoods,” said Iraqi military spokesman Brig Qassem al-Mussawi, referring to a largely Sunni Arab neighborhood of the capital.

Tens of thousands of Iraqi and US security personnel have been deployed on the streets of Baghdad since June in a bid to stem out tit-for-tat sectarian violence between the ousted Sunni Arab elite and the newly empowered Shiite majority that has been daily costing dozens of lives. In the past week, however, the violence has spiked with dozens of bodies turning up everyday, including 14 in the heart of the capital alone on Monday. “These numbers announced by the media are not accurate,” retorted government spokesman Ali al-Dabbagh when asked about the worsening death toll.

The predominantly Sunni neighborhood of Fadhel in east Baghdad appears to be the latest battleground with the sounds of explosions resounding from the area on a nightly basis. Residents report repeated assaults by armed outsiders, using mortars and rocket propelled grenades as well as small arms.

The military spokesman played down the neighborhood’s problems, however, insisting that army patrols met little resistance in the district and found few illegal weapons in their searches. “Now, there are forces present in the area and the security situation is stable,” Mussawi said.

The government spokesman said the authorities were working hard to tackle the militias operating out of Shiite areas of east Baghdad that are blamed for many of the reprisals for Sunni insurgent assaults on their co-religionists. “The government is working hard to dissolve and integrate the militias through the political accord that exists in the country,” Dabbagh said. In other incidents, four policemen were killed by gunmen in the far north of Iraq not far from the Syrian border, while four women were killed in a series of shootings in the main northern city of Mosul.
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#1  Patiant died but the operation is a success.
Posted by: gromgoru || 09/19/2006 6:08 Comments || Top||

#2  December 18, 1944

Crack German troops continued to drive the Allies back into Belgium, despite assurances from Allied Commanders just last week that the Germans "were finished".

And they were.
Posted by: Bobby || 09/19/2006 6:55 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Army official: Imminent al-Qaeda threat to Eilat
Senior officer says terror cells being set up around southern town – in Sinai, Jordan, Saudi Arabia – and that defense establishment needs to stay alert in order to prevent attacks

A senior army official said that the defense establishment needs to be prepared for the possibility of a global jihad attack in the southern town of Eilat. "Eilat is a target. In the last two years many global jihad attacks were carried out around it. The ability and the intent to attack exist, and we must stay alert in order to prevent a strategic strike," he stated.

The escalation in infiltration attempts from the Egyptian border, al-Qaeda's threats to carry out a terror attack in Israel, and the formation of terror cells in Sinai, Jordan and Saudi Arabia, give the IDF further reason to step up operations to thwart infiltrations. "The threat to Eilat is multi-dimensional: From the air, the sea, and of course – from land, and can be launched from Jordan or Egypt," the officer explained. "We have yet to see the Islamic jihad's fingerprints in this region, but nevertheless I consider it to be an imminent, worrying threat that I don't want to see nearing the area," he added.

The official recommended to close the western road along Egypt's border until an electronic fence is erected in the area. Due to plans of the terror organizations across the border to hit tourist destinations, the IDF recently decided to establish a new base in Mount Sagi in the Negev, and station reserve and compulsory service units in the place that will reinforce the operations of army forces in the area.
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IDF neutralizes two Kassam launchers in n. Gaza
IDF forces neutralized two Kassam launchers in the northern Gaza Strip on Monday. Army Radio reported that the launchers were used to fire three rockets into the south of Israel on Sunday.
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Peretz okays demolition of illegal Judea buildings
Defense Minister Amir Peretz authorized the IDF on Monday evening to raze some 50 housing units built illegally on the outskirts of Judea and Samaria, by a timetable of the army's choice. The IDF will also demolish illegal structures built by Palestinians in the area.
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Two infiltrators arrested near Egyptian border
IDF troops arrested late Monday evening two men who attempted to infiltrate Israel from Egypt near Shikma. The two were handed over for interrogation.
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Olde Tyme Religion
Al-qaeda linked group calls for sharia to punish Pope
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 09/19/2006 15:02 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "We, the Jund al-Sham condemn the words of the Pope and ask for the punishment foreseen by the Sharia to be applied to him and anyone who offends the Prophet [Mohammed],"

Ok...piss on Mo-ham-head.
Posted by: anymouse || 09/19/2006 15:32 Comments || Top||

#2  Insert obligatory FOAD post >here<.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/19/2006 15:34 Comments || Top||

#3  I'll second Anon.

Islam is a barbaric, Moon God worshipping, death cult.

It's prophet Mohammed was a mass murdering, perverted, pedophile who is, if there is any justice, burning in Hell.

Fatwa that Mullahs!
Posted by: AlanC || 09/19/2006 16:33 Comments || Top||

#4  Mohammed was a goat raping son of a pig!

Now, how about that Fatwah?
Posted by: DarthVader || 09/19/2006 16:39 Comments || Top||

#5  See young muzzies, we at Rantburg can seethe with the best of them. You just don't see it on CNN International, so you don't know the depth of intolerance you have generated by your own posturing. But you will. However, by then it will be too late.
Posted by: Shavise Angeamp7988 || 09/19/2006 17:24 Comments || Top||

#6 
Posted by: Jesing Ebbease3087 || 09/19/2006 18:11 Comments || Top||

#7  Yep, hey speak for themselves. Let more qualified people speak for God.
Posted by: newc || 09/19/2006 18:34 Comments || Top||

#8  he speaks every time there's a 7.0 quake hitting Islamic lands...notice they seem to get more frequent lately?
Posted by: Frank G || 09/19/2006 18:51 Comments || Top||

#9  Touch one hair on that old man we call the pope's head and they will realize what hell on earth is all about. Genocide will have a new definition. This is not seething and moaning this is a FU&*ING promise. The foolism muzzie that does this will bring the end to everything Islam is and would ever be. I have had enough.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 09/19/2006 20:48 Comments || Top||

#10  You would think after all these years there would still exist some variety of Christian enforcers, perhaps in eastern Europe or the Mediterranean, who would be more than happy to slaughter Muslims.

They could find lots of recruits everywhere from Slovakia to Crete.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 09/19/2006 22:21 Comments || Top||

#11  They say the Knights Templar are still around.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 09/19/2006 22:27 Comments || Top||


Who saw this Coming: The Pope must die, says Muslim
Boy. I didn't see this coming. Muslims overreacting to an observation of an historical text. The next thing you know they will rioting over cartoons!!!
A notorious Muslim extremist told a demonstration in London yesterday that the Pope should face execution.
And he is still in England, because..?
Anjem Choudary said those who insulted Islam would be "subject to capital punishment".
Sounds like a death threat to me.
His remarks came during a protest outside Westminster Cathedral on a day that worldwide anger among Muslim hardliners towards Pope Benedict XVI appeared to deepen.

The pontiff yesterday apologised for causing offence during a lecture last week. Quoting a medieval emperor, his words were taken to mean that he called the prophet Mohammed "evil and inhuman".
And he didn't even say the whole truth: that Mo-ham-head was a lying, murdering, pedophile.
He insisted he was "deeply sorry" but his humbling words did not go far enough to silence all his critics or quell the violence and anger he has triggered.
I'm not sorry for telling the truth: Mo-ham-head was a lying, murdering, pedophile.

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Posted by: anymouse || 09/19/2006 00:55 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The muzzies shot a 65 year old nurse who was volunteering to help the sick who had no other help... ambushed her and shot her 4 times IN THE BACK.

THAT is what Islam has become and THAT is why it is worthy only of extermination.

Posted by: Oldspook || 09/19/2006 2:40 Comments || Top||

#2  Hack this shithead to tiny bits with a Chinese cleaver, drop him into an industrial shredder, run him through a low cost wood chipper, feed small pieces of him into a food processor, let starving rabid feral animals make a quick lunch out of him. Nothing could please me more.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/19/2006 3:24 Comments || Top||

#3  I sort of understood the hate, but after watching this video, I now understand where these guys are coming from, that they really do mean it! God save the Pope!

repost
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1211228663574416724
Posted by: Jesing Ebbease3087 || 09/19/2006 3:35 Comments || Top||

#4  These in fact were a quotation from a medieval text

Lets go medieval on them.
Posted by: gromgoru || 09/19/2006 6:12 Comments || Top||

#5  Don't forget to cast your vote Here.
Posted by: doc || 09/19/2006 6:43 Comments || Top||

#6  Well it took 5 years for OBL to come close to recognizing his goal of inciting global jihad. Now we have western political enfeeblement, a HUGE 5th column in the US, Muslims threatening to kill the Pope & a terror state on the verge of nuclear weapons. A lot of people are going to be dead before this is done.
Posted by: JerseyMike || 09/19/2006 7:26 Comments || Top||

#7  Well it took 5 years for OBL to come close to recognizing his goal of inciting global jihad. Now we have western political enfeeblement, a HUGE 5th column in the US, Muslims threatening to kill the Pope & a terror state on the verge of nuclear weapons. A lot of people are going to be dead before this is done.

Well, thats the inevitable result of putting Band-aids on cancer.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 09/19/2006 8:25 Comments || Top||

#8  Oh, go do that.

Nothing like uniting Christianity in way it hasn't seen for a thousand years.
Posted by: Snineger Spavitle5395 || 09/19/2006 9:30 Comments || Top||

#9  Thanks, Jesing....clicked on the movie link 1 hour and 18 minutes ago. It's compelling. Everyone should watch this movie.
Posted by: wxjames || 09/19/2006 9:39 Comments || Top||

#10  Exactly, SS.

Yesterday someone said this Rome / Pope thing is a big "end-times" thing for them. Well okaaaaay, then. Hell, I'm well past fed up - let's get in on, already. Take your shot, miss, and we can get this vermin eradication program on the road.
Posted by: flyover || 09/19/2006 10:23 Comments || Top||

#11  As a Catholic, I was embarrassed that he apologized. Geez, the Pope before him never apologized to us for the pedophiles that ran rampant and were protected but at the drop of a little nun - he started to sweat beer nuts. I wrote an email to him to suck it up but it didn't work. If you want to email the pope here it is:

benedictxvi-at-vatican@va

Give him a note about how you really feel
Posted by: jack is Back! || 09/19/2006 11:00 Comments || Top||

#12  Lets go medieval on them

I'm thinking more Communist. Surround a section, cut it off from food and everything, and shoot anyone who tries to escape. Repeat until there are none left. Think of it as our own Five Year Plan or Great Leap Forward.
Posted by: Jackal || 09/19/2006 11:01 Comments || Top||

#13  As a Catholic, I was embarrassed that he apologized.

He didn't.

Not really trying to follow the news, are you? Just buying whatever the press shovels out?
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 09/19/2006 11:14 Comments || Top||

#14  As a Catholic, I was embarrassed that he apologized.

Even though the msm said he said he was "deeply sorry", he actually said that he was "terribly disappointed/displeased with the uproar caused by his lecture".
*Not* an apology. The Pope is NOT a pol who can fluctuate, drifting along the currents of public opinion, there is no way he can say "gee, I erred, I'm sorry", despite what the Moderate Muslims are hoping (remember, if a dhimmi offends islam, he can escape punishment only by a public apology and renouncement to what he said).
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 09/19/2006 11:21 Comments || Top||

#15  11 As a Catholic, I was embarrassed that he apologized. Geez, the Pope before him never apologized to us for the pedophiles that ran rampant and were protected but at the drop of a little nun - he started to sweat beer nuts. I wrote an email to him to suck it up but it didn't work. If you want to email the pope here it is:

benedictxvi-at-vatican@va

Give him a note about how you really feel

I just posted the following-

I would like to say i admire your courage with which you spoke up about the threat of islamic fundamentalism.

For years the West has been ignoring this threat but it is has been going on for years that violence in the name of religion has been accepted without little condemnation by islamic scholars/clerics.

Its about time the West/Christianity stood up to this threat that is brainwashing kids in Saudi,Pakistan, Iran etc to hate other religions.

Being brought up Roman Catholic i was never taught to hate other religions.Can we say the same about Saudi,Pakistan or Iran????

The education of youngsters needs to be looked at in Islamic countries because i dont know any other religion that spreads hatred of other religions.It seems the passive religions like Buddist,Hindus,Christianity are being threatend, overtaken by radical violent Islam in Continents like Africa and Asia.

We need to wake up the West to the threat.

Paul

Posted by: Cheregum Crelet7867 || 09/19/2006 11:31 Comments || Top||

#16  As usual I agree w/most of the sentiments on here wrt islam. IMHO the problem is islam, not just radical islam, or militant islam, or islamofascism or any other catchphrase we've come up within the last two years but the root islam itself is the problem. The koran is the basis of that problem. The very fact that as an institution islam cannot critique or question itself as well as being devoid of the ability to reason, makes the "root" islam incompatible w/the modern world. We keep speaking about the War on Terror which I find funny. We are in a war on islam not on terror, terror is a tactic, islam is the real 800 lb gorrilla in the room none of our talking heads or our cowardly politicos wish to speak of. There is no great and peaceful religion of islam, never has been. Only the ignorant and those w/an ajenda spread that garbage. Up until about 4 years ago I myself was ignorant on just how much of their disgusting attitudes came directly from the koran. Being from Detroit, I used to think it was just an arab cultural thing. Then when I read the koran and connected its tenets to the actions of the persians, paks, somalis, malaysians I then realized it was more than just arab tribal bufoonery. There's still one underlying theme as to why this whole region is so f*cked up - islam.

Terror is a tactic and at best a second class strategy, islam and the general cultural neuroses it breeds is the root ideology utilizing this tactic. Granted, there are decent people of every background & I have known some decent muslims as I am sure others on here may know a couple, *but* overall the cost/benefit does not bode them well wrt their co-religionists. Therefore, I know no other way to deal w/the adherents of islam other then extermination, forced conversion, or employing a reverse dhimmi or jizya on them. So long as they follow a religion that does not holds peace, love, reason, or compassion for all human beings as a major tenet of their faith/teachings we cannot allow them to proceed unabated. We absolutely cannot have them pursuing 21st century weapons w/their 7th century alligator brains. Might as well give a loaded weapon w/out the safety on to a bi-polar 4 yr old.
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 09/19/2006 11:46 Comments || Top||

#17  Good post Broadhead totally agree.Islam is rotten to the core and their leaders never question/modernise their religion like others have.They think they are the only true religion and preach hatred of other religions.They belive Islam brought down the fall of the Soviet Union not the west and are so narrow minded they are unable to change unless forced to!!!!
Posted by: Cheregum Crelet7867 || 09/19/2006 12:27 Comments || Top||

#18  I always learn something when you post, Broadhead6. However, speaking as a member of a religion with a history of being at the receiving end of forced conversion, I can guarantee that is not an answer. What you get are

a)those who didn't truly believe in their own religion and now believe in yours even less, bringing a poisonous cynicism to the congregation, and

b)those who believe that the stronger force proves the validity of your religion, and go on to apply their understanding to prove the strength of their faith (those that Mohammed converted by the sword extended the Caliphate much farther than he was able to do himself), and

c) those who fake conversion to survive, and work to undermine it from inside the temple, multiplying the damage from the first group.

Which is why the Spaniards never trusted the Jews and Muslims who chose baptism over immediate exile in 1492. To this day the descendents of the Jewish conversos are referred to as Marranos ("pigs"; I don't know if the Muslim conversos are referred to differently), and some of the families still practice Jewish traditions in secret, mostly without remembering why.

On the other hand, there is likely a good deal of quiet apostacy here in the US. It's easy enough, once one has moved far from home, to never again go to the mosque, to associate only with one's non-Muslim neighbors and colleagues and the relatives of one's non-Muslim spouse. Confrontation with a reality different from the old ways leads weak minds to anger and withdrawel, but strong minds to re-evaluation of old assumptions and new conclusions. We see the same thing in the non-Muslim Americans: the weak minds refuse to accept that we are actually at war, and fight those who insist on defence, while the strong minds wrestle with the best way to defeat the attackers even while beginning to respond in force.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/19/2006 12:38 Comments || Top||

#19  Jackal, on behalf of the Halliburton's bio-weapons division, I reject your ideas as impractical and immoral.
Posted by: gromgoru || 09/19/2006 12:44 Comments || Top||

#20  TW, you're prolly right. Honestly, I have no real good answers to this problem - I foresee only varying degrees of bad options that the muslims may one day find themselves choosing from.
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 09/19/2006 12:48 Comments || Top||

#21  You seem like a bright lady, TW. Does the "wife" part mean you're spoken for?

Posted by: Bobby || 09/19/2006 13:02 Comments || Top||

#22  this is what makes this particular conflict so lethal. What are we going to do? Round up a billion men, women and children and send them to the bread ovens for the crime of being Muslim? oooh.. count me out.

We could and should deport Muslims who live in our country but refuse to pledge allegience to our laws and customs.

In the past, we beat Muslim conquerers back to little patches of unwanted sand and said, "if you want to be in control, stay here." But the joke was on us cause they got the oil and now they've got the bomb. In today's world of global communications and weapons of mass destruction, there is no way that we can banish them to reservations of unwanted real estate where they can't reach us with their weapons and even if we could they won't be happy because our porn, music, mirth and frivolity will find their way to them through interent, cell phones and tvs.

This story isn't going to end well.
Posted by: tabd || 09/19/2006 13:03 Comments || Top||

#23  Does the "wife" part mean you're spoken for?

That is the convention, Bobby. In my case, I met Mr. Wife at my freshman orientation, which ruined my plans for a wild and crazy college career. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/19/2006 13:11 Comments || Top||

#24  I am not religious. I'm an agnostic prodestant with secular athiest tendencies.

But this guy is my Pope.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/19/2006 13:55 Comments || Top||

#25  The way I see it, we Americans are loathe to act until pushed hard. And then we tend to hit back 10 times as hard as we got hit. Ask the Japanese.

The problem is, liek the pre-war Japanese, the ismaist see our reluctance to fight as weakness.

The have no clue how berserk we as a nation get if hit hard enough to wake us up - and how merciless we can be against agressors.

This is going to end with a mushroom cloud over a lot of dead Americans, and many mushrooom clouds over every significant Islamic Holy site, excepting perhaps ones in jerusalem.

The only way out for Islam is for them to reform, allow interpretaion of the Koran, and stop the violence.

If they do not do so themselves, and we are unwilling to do so for them (Like in Iraq, where half our public has aleady surrendered instead of fighting), then millions will die, most of them Muslims, and they will be hunted down and eradicated like the Nazis and thier racist ideaology were.


Posted by: Oldspook || 09/19/2006 13:59 Comments || Top||

#26  The only Muslims who are a threat are the ones that are not hypocrites: that is, those who choose to interpret the Koran based on the Hadiths and the belief that Mohammed was the perfect Muslim, and thus whose life is to be emulated to the smallest detail. "If Mohammed did it, then it is permissible for you to do it." is the root cause of the problem.

We were never given credit for rescuing the bosnian muslims because they drank wine and took their Islam less rigidly. They were viewed as heretics by the Wahabbis, who sent money to rebuild their mosques only on the condition that they not be built in accordance to the local architecture, which was quite artistic. Tombs that were literal works of art were destroyed by wahabbi fanatics.

God save me from the Christians who are hypocrites, and the Muslims who aren't.

Posted by: Ptah || 09/19/2006 14:19 Comments || Top||

#27  You do not have to go for mass fodder removal to deal with the problem of radical (or whatever) Islam. You go for the leaders that stir up the jihadis. You go after Saudi Imams that make fatwas that justify Bin Laden and Co's ops. You go for the financiers that support terrorist ops, AND those that finance madarassas that crank out such screwed up people. You keep battering the switchboard until the fodder bottoms out and then MAYBE the others will come around. It will take generations to undo the hardwiring that Islam has done to a big chunk of humanity.

Follow the money. Follow the leaders. Take out the money. Take out the leaders. People that want us dead and advocate and work toward that goal need a dirt nap. Then the problem of terrorism can be cleared up, and we can go to the stars and quit playing around in a sand box with retards.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/19/2006 14:41 Comments || Top||

#28  Thank for reposting the "Obsession" link, Jesing Ebbease3087 . I watched it before bed last night and found it to be truly disturbing, revolting, outrageous and several other less printable adjectives.

As I've said before, this one is for all the marbles.

Previously, I felt that the Mythical Moderate Muslim™ needed to be spared in this conflict. Now, I no longer give a rip for these silent and tacit facilitators. There is far too much at stake and the immense danger of a terrorist nuclear attack increases each day. Merely follow the coverage of Adnan El Shukrijumah, if you have any questions. We no longer have the luxury of being concerned about any ostensibly "innocent bystanders". Moderate Muslims™ must begin to save themselves through a vocal and active campaign of reporting jihadist imams and interdicting criminal plots as they come to notice. The complete and total absence of self-critical mechanisms within Islam make it an unparalelled threat. Mind you how it is also far from established that Moderate Muslims™ does not contribute a vast majority of the zakat that finances jihadist terrorism.

The central question is not if Islam will launch a terrorist nuclear attack but, merely, when. If we allow Iran access to atomic weapons, the result will be a chain of proliferation throughout the Middle East. This will put so many nuclear devices in the possession of Islamic governments that some of them are guaranteed to leak through into terrorist hands.

If the cartoonifada wasn't proof enough, this current spate of spewing about the Pope should quench all doubt. Every single one of the West's institutions will come under assault by Muslims. Governments, churches, art, media and the very Internet itself will each of them be tortured out of all recognition by the forces of Islam.

The time has come to begin an aggressive campaign of containment. It is one of several options on the well-thought-out list by Rantburg contributor, David D.. The options are as follows:

1. SURRENDER: Islam's stated mission-- and to them, their manifest destiny-- is to convert the entire world to Islam; we could dispense with this entire war just by becoming Muslims and being done with it.

2. APPEASEMENT: Buy them off by giving them what they want.

3. IGNORE IT: Just ignore atrocities like the Islamic attacks on 9/11 and in Madrid, London, Bali, Israel and Beslan.

4. ISOLATION: Withdraw from the rest of the world and its troubles, keep our heads down and a low profile.

5. CRIMINAL PROSECUTION: Hunt down the terrorists who attack us and prosecute them for their crimes-- but only after they've committed them. And only if the ACLU lets us.

6. INTRUSIVE DOMESTIC SECURITY: We could prevent terrorist attacks by turning America into a police state, with intrusive government monitoring of all aspects of our lives and suspension of habeus corpus. Anyone even suspected of terrorist activity or sympathies, simply disappears in the middle of the night.

7. LIBERATION & REFORM: What we're doing now in Iraq and Afghanistan, which is trying to see if Arab/Islamic society can be detoxified by introducing democratic self-governance. Maybe it can; maybe it can't. We'll see. So far the results don't look very promising.

8. CONQUEST & SUBJUGATION: Invade their countries, assassinate their political and religious leaders, outlaw Islam and bulldoze their mosques, and rule them with an iron fist.

9. COLLECTIVE PUNISHMENT: Respond to terrorist attacks on American soil with extravagantly disproportionate retaliation against their cities and their infrastructure. Repeated often enough, this will eventually lead to deterrence.

10. EXPULSION & QUARANTINE: Outlaw Islam within the U.S. and expel all Muslims, citizens or not. Forbid entry into the U.S.-- even for brief visits-- to all Muslims regardless of country of origin, and all nationals of whatever religion from countries that are predominantly Muslim. Seal the Canadian and Mexican borders tight with orders to shoot to kill, and NOT ask questions later.

11. EXTERMINATION: We could end this once and for all-- just nuke the entire Islamic world and let our descendents deal with the guilt.

We are already at Option # 7. Events are forcing us to begin consideration and limited implementation of options # 8 - # 11. When we progress to them is a function of political will and just how quickly Islam can inflict one or the other of incredibly heinous atrocities upon the West that will finally force upward migration through these options. HAVE NO DOUBT that Islam will commit such mass murder. This ideology has a congenital predisposition to the commission of crimes against humanity.

My only question is; WHY WAIT?

The threats against the Pope have given us final proof that Islam will not be satisfied until it dominates the globe. If we seek to survive, it must be through military conquest as diplomatic methods are of precisely ZERO use. How soon we implement these military options will regulate just what portion of our current society and its progressive culture gets carried forward into a world freed from any threat of Islamic dominance.

I refuse to concede even a minute fraction of our progress to Islam as the price of having had to deal with them. Therefore, it is critical for us to begin dismantling this fascist genocidal ideology before it can inflict further harm on a substantially larger scale.

THE TIME FOR ACTION IS NOW.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/19/2006 14:42 Comments || Top||

#29  Yet, us humans are hardwired to be believers.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 09/19/2006 14:52 Comments || Top||

#30  I agree with you, Alaska Paul, we need to phase in Option # 8 by initiating a campaign of sanctioning with extreme prejudice all jihadist imams and clergy. Abu Bakir, Qaradawi, Hamza, Bakri, mullah Omar, the Iranian mullahs, bin Laden, Nasrallah and every single other one of these scumbags. They all need to be permanently tucked in for a nice long dirt nap.

If this does not adequately convey to Muslims our displeasure with Islam's genocidal tenets, then they are beyond all hope of rehabilitation and we should move on immediately to phase two of Option # 8 or straight to Options # 9 through # 11 for all I care.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/19/2006 14:55 Comments || Top||

#31  "Yet, us humans are hardwired to be believers."

Not me bro', at least not in any organized religion.
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 09/19/2006 15:05 Comments || Top||

#32  Yet, us humans are hardwired to be believers.

anonymous5089, I think that you are confusing the human propensity for pattern recognition with the more applealing and less demanding reliance upon faith. Cogit ergo sum is not a faith based statement.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/19/2006 15:16 Comments || Top||

#33  I'm cool w/AP's suggestion as well but I'm still not sure it quite addresses the root ideological rub. If sanctioning the annihilation of selected gov't officials and powerful religious goofballs works to control the masses of wannabe binny's then I'm all for it. Even if it turned whole countries toward quiet or tacit islamic apostacy I'd think it successful. Of course, I've always been a fan of going wetworks on dictatorship sh*tholes in general.

The other component we failed to mention is the oil angle. I know we've beat this dead horse on other threads, but the sooner we become energy independent the less our entaglements w/the sand clowns will become.

Another piece to consider is the Euro-muzzie factor. How our supposed allies deal w/their little arabias is fairly important to our security as well.
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 09/19/2006 15:18 Comments || Top||

#34  Goopie, you're just too damn short to go on this ride. Bye, bye...

Posted by: Dave D. || 09/19/2006 15:29 Comments || Top||

#35  No entertainment value in trolls who natter to themselves?
Posted by: flyover || 09/19/2006 15:30 Comments || Top||

#36  It would be wise to help our real friends keep the battles off their homelands. That would include England and Israel and the Vatican. As long as the fight takes place in the ME or Asia minor, we can support our efforts with men and materials. They don't have that security. They bury munitions under ground and they will not win that way. The rest of Europe will have to make a stand. I pray we never again help the Phrench. Or the Ruskies for that matter. I also wonder if China will do the mature thing or become the spoiler. I do expect India to be one of our main allies in the coming battles. Finally, every day it appears our lefties are less and less influential.
Posted by: wxjames || 09/19/2006 15:42 Comments || Top||

#37  As OS states clearly, this is headed toward an end, and it will not be pretty. If AQ (or whoever), does managed to detonate a WMD, or WMDs in the US...the there will be He** to pay in the Middle East.

Unfortunately that's almost certainly the response the islamo-cockroaches are trying to elicit, and is totally unanticipated by the mainstream of the muslim world (whatever that means).
Posted by: anymouse || 09/19/2006 15:46 Comments || Top||

#38  We don't need mushroom clouds. it's clear which mosques preach hate week after week. Some Friday after a week of seething we just wait until the mosques fill up and blast away. Take out ten to a hundred mosques that first day and see what the seething level is like the following week. If it has not changed we take out ten to a hundred more. These things will sort themselves out in time.

Yeah we'll feel bad, but we'll get over it.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/19/2006 16:03 Comments || Top||

#39  I'm cool w/AP's suggestion as well but I'm still not sure it quite addresses the root ideological rub.

It doesn't, Broadhead6, not entirely. As you, yourself, posted:

IMHO the problem is islam, not just radical islam, or militant islam, or islamofascism or any other catchphrase we've come up within the last two years but the root islam itself is the problem. The koran is the basis of that problem. The very fact that as an institution islam cannot critique or question itself as well as being devoid of the ability to reason, makes the "root" islam incompatible w/the modern world. We keep speaking about the War on Terror which I find funny. We are in a war on islam not on terror, terror is a tactic, islam is the real 800 lb gorrilla in the room none of our talking heads or our cowardly politicos wish to speak of. There is no great and peaceful religion of islam, never has been.

The Koran is a deeply flawed document. Our humanity dictates that we give Islam a chance to reinterpret their doctrine over to a reformed and nonviolent faith. Personally, I think we'll be ice skating in hell long before that ever happens. Which is why I want to phase in Option # 8 right now and go for doors # 9 through # 11 as needed.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/19/2006 16:08 Comments || Top||

#40  Works for me, rjschwarz. Start with the really bilious spittle spewers and work our way down. I think Pakistan and Saudi Arabia need to be at the top of our Christmas list.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/19/2006 16:10 Comments || Top||

#41  The religion is the problem, of this there is no doubt. But I am not ready to nuke anyone at this point. I am ready to publicly yank radical imams out of their mosques, hang them in the street and then bulldoze the mosque as RJ suggests. This has to be combined with a clear statement that if this shit continues it won't be just the mosques that get the treatment.

We have to make it very clear that yes, we are at war with islam because it is clear that islam cannot get along with anyone else in its present form. Again, the message must be crystal clear.

This will give the ummah a chance to evaluate where they are and whether or not they want to reform their religion. It is sort of like what we are doing in Iraq...giving them a chance to help themselves.

If they do not and the funding, seeting, eyerolling continue then larger population centers need to be destroyed. Ratchet up the pain until they understand that the path upon which they are on is untenable.
Posted by: remoteman || 09/19/2006 16:38 Comments || Top||

#42  I agree, remoteman, nuclear weapons are not needed, yet.

I do think that the nuclear option needs to be put on the table in clear view just to let Islam know what awaits any inabity to reform and finally quit all of their genocidal jihadist crap.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/19/2006 17:01 Comments || Top||

#43  Personally I find 'nuking' a little 20th Century. With the DNA gnome and the largest pharmaceutical base in the world, a nice designer plague with antidote would be more efficient. Leaves the infrastructure largely in tact. After about a decade, the corpses should be largely decomposed.
Posted by: Shavise Angeamp7988 || 09/19/2006 17:20 Comments || Top||

#44  B-16 did NOT apologize. He said he was sorry the Moslems took such offense. He has opened, quite consciously and intentionally, a dialogue about the connection between Mohammed's teachings and violence.
Posted by: Sgt. D.T. || 09/19/2006 17:22 Comments || Top||

#45  Zenster, true enough. The very essence of the literal interpretation of the koran may take our strategy beyond just hitting high value targets. However, I'd never want to intimate a "zero to nuke them now" attitude on my part. At least not the women & children of their culture who I consider victims of idelogical neuroses. TW, brings up good points on forced conversion. Though I wonder if forced conversion on muslims would be looked at the same way from the prior muslim as TW pointed out jews/christians looked at islam after their forced conversion.

I concur that an incremental eradication starting w/hate spewing mosques, terrorist enabling officials, etc needs to happen before anybody even dreams of pulling out the pres' football. If whacking specific religious/govt leaders and their institutions helps islam re-invent itself to something compatible w/the modern world then I am for it (they could start w/tossing out 80% of the koran and keeping the passages that actually reflect just behavior). Maybe they could even evolve and go to a sort of "Jeffersonian Koran" - hahaha, I crack myself up. (I actually have a Jeffersonian Bible where he got rid of what he felt were "revealed" passages and instead tried to stay w/Jesus' original ethical construct devoid of any miracle stories, some christians hate that but I actually found it fascinating.) I'm drifting OT, anyways, until the majority of muslims start looking at the koran as something to be questioned & debated as a matter of reason, or as a traditional/cultural book inspired by God vice a literal innerrent text from the mouth of the Almighty - we will continue to have the same old cyclic problems. Which makes me wonder at what point will we get to where Joe Sixpack starts burning korans in the street and calling for the nuking of tehran? Hopefully we don't get to that point.
Posted by: Broadhead6 || 09/19/2006 17:22 Comments || Top||

#46  BH6, perhaps it will take Joe Sixpack massing in the street to get the government off the dime about what really must be done.

Half statements are not going to do it. Our dialogue must be clear that islam's current nature is the problem and it must reform now. No negotiation, no tolerance.

It is also not just Joe Sixpack that needs to do this. It is Gilles Carafe, Jose Margarita, Nigel Pint-o-Ale, Takahashi Saki and all the other regular guys and gals out there in the world that want to coexist with one another but will not tolerate islam's crap any longer.

The president, the Pope and other world leaders have to stand up and say enough is enough. Hell, we can see that they are going to seethe regardless, why not just lay it on the line. Keep this crap up and you are going to die...like imam fruitcakebrain did just this afternoon. Squealed like a pig when he did too. While I would love it if this where to happen today, that is just a pipe dream. It won't happen until more Americans die. But it has to happen.
Posted by: remoteman || 09/19/2006 17:42 Comments || Top||

#47  I have a feeling Gilles Carafe is ALWAYS going to tolerate Islam's crap.
Posted by: Dave D. || 09/19/2006 18:04 Comments || Top||

#48  Do you mean Jacques Boxwine?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 09/19/2006 18:11 Comments || Top||

#49  NS, that would Monsieur Jacques Vinboit.
Posted by: Zenster || 09/19/2006 18:33 Comments || Top||

#50  Things are starting to get 'interesting'. These comments from the Pope have really brought out the Muslim 'moderates' haven't they?

And it must be making a lot of Christians (even non-Catholics) wonder what on earth is going on.

I'm not a religious guy so I'm not really into 'turning the other cheek', but I can understand and appreciate why many religious people feel they have to go the extra yards.

However, I do think that this current 'unpleasantness' has made a rather large number of Christians look in a rather askance way at Islam.

This 'incident' will have implications for Islam in general, but whether it ends up saving more Muslim lives or not is still open.
Posted by: Tony (UK) || 09/19/2006 18:36 Comments || Top||

#51  Our dealings with radical or mainstream Islam encompasses several facets or stages.

1. Identify the problem. Collectively this country or the world has not fully realized the size and nature of the problem. The problem has to be shown the light of day. So this task needs to be done.

2. Identify the immediate source of the problem. This is where my previous post comes in suggesting taking out the leaders and the financiers.

3. Deny the terrorists resources. That comes back to regime change or our alternate sources of petroleum, i.e., other sources besides the ME sandbox.

4. Change the culure of psychotics and death. That is what we are trying to do to Iraq. It is a tall order. I am not too excited about this step until we have a very large consensus to do this. This is the social engineering option, and it will suck up resources like Jack the Pig. That is what is happening to us in Iraq on our nickel.

My immediate concern is to eliminate the terrorist threat without going bankrupt. I do not think that this is an insurmountable problem. We just need the will, then the details and the means will fall into place.

The Islamists are not afraid of us anymore. In the beginning they were. They need to be fearful of the Great Satan again. Very fearful. Then we will be able to communicate with the likes of Iran, Syria, NORKS, the Saudis, and all of their friends, sisters, cousins, and aunts.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/19/2006 20:26 Comments || Top||

#52  Islam, radical Isalm, moderate Islam????? This is all crap. I don't see the moderates out there denouncing anything, except the US. What we have here is levels of support. Active and passive, plain and simple. The only reason any Islamic tribe will work with us is in the hopes they can dominate their neighbor tribe. They could all give a rats ass about the United States of America.

I'm not sorry, I'm sick and tired of all the flailing about and hand wringing over some innocent muslim kid getting killed when we nuke Teheran or Mecca. I saw what they did in NYC and the Pentagon, they should have thought about the safety of their children before they struck our nation. Just like Japan where hundreds of thousands of kids died because of an emporer that lost his way, it's just too damn bad.

What just drives me crazy is peoples lack of vision and the ability to see our enemy's desired end state. We will have our travel locked down for fear of hijackings, ports closed, armed guards at every public place and after years of this we will have NO FREEDOMS left to defend, game over. Our constitution will become a dream of days past.

We built the bombs to show our enemies we mean business and force other nations to heed our will. We need to use them and stop this before our enemy gets lucky and turns DC into a bio death zone.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 09/19/2006 21:12 Comments || Top||

#53  The god head UNCLE SAM needs to convince a near earth orbit say 1/2 cubed km stone to provide mecca with decent sized black rock.
Posted by: 3dc || 09/19/2006 22:25 Comments || Top||

#54  Me!!!!!!
Posted by: Thoth || 09/19/2006 23:11 Comments || Top||

#55  My immediate concern is to eliminate the terrorist threat without going bankrupt. I do not think that this is an insurmountable problem. We just need the will, then the details and the means will fall into place.

The hunter killer teams are the beginning of this "cost-effective" campaign.

The Islamists are not afraid of us anymore. In the beginning they were. They need to be fearful of the Great Satan again. Very fearful. Then we will be able to communicate with the likes of Iran, Syria, NORKS, the Saudis, and all of their friends, sisters, cousins, and aunts.

Bingo, AP. Our main message needs to be, "FEAR THIS". The nuclear option needs to be dusted off, trotted out and polished up all bright and shiny for these maggots to take notice of. No squeamishness, no hesitation, just a simple message of STFU or say hello to Mr. Atom.

These comments from the Pope have really brought out the Muslim 'moderates' haven't they?

Spot on, Tony. As always, it is the usual Thundering Silence™. We need to communicate very clearly to these people that their mute response WILL BE THE DEATH OF THEM.

Islam, radical Isalm, moderate Islam????? This is all crap. I don't see the moderates out there denouncing anything, except the US. What we have here is levels of support. Active and passive, plain and simple. The only reason any Islamic tribe will work with us is in the hopes they can dominate their neighbor tribe. They could all give a rats ass about the United States of America.

Somewhere out there, I can hear .com shouting, "Yeppers!" You've got it, 49 Pan. However, I'm not on the same "immediate use" page as you are regarding atomic weapons. As you can see from the above, I'm not far from it, but we really need to send some conventional "messages" for a while before trotting out the big guns.


Posted by: Zenster || 09/19/2006 23:49 Comments || Top||

#56  God save me from the Christians who are hypocrites, and the Muslims who aren't.

hehe

All religions are hypocites
Posted by: goopta || 09/19/2006 14:45 Comments || Top||

#57  No only some - the chosen ones

hahahaha
Posted by: goopta || 09/19/2006 14:55 Comments || Top||

#58  #31

I would include Jewish settlers stepping out of line

Also fundementalist christians facilitating any aggression
Posted by: goopta || 09/19/2006 15:13 Comments || Top||

#59  The other component we failed to mention is the oil angle

The US and greedy corps. are their own worst enemy

Short termism = quick buck
Posted by: goopta || 09/19/2006 15:25 Comments || Top||

#60  hehehe

One last comment

With all the different religions, there is only one certainty...

SOMEONE IS WRONG

You have wasted all your life believing in bullshit - now THAT'S funny

HAAHAHAHHHHAHAHAHAHA!
Posted by: goopta || 09/19/2006 15:33 Comments || Top||

#61  Certainly seems like an "end time"

Fundementalists of the world unite !
Posted by: Goopta || 09/19/2006 15:50 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Gunman wounds two at Ein el-Hellhole
A masked gunman opened fire at the entrance of a Palestinian refugee camp in Lebanon Monday, seriously wounding two guerrillas, a spokesman for the guerrilla group said. Fouad Osman, a member of the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, said the two men were guarding the northern entrance of the sprawling camp near this southern Lebanese port city when the gunman using an assault rifle opened fire. The two men were rushed to a hospital for treatment. The cause of the attack was not known and was being investigated, Osman said.

Ein el-Hilweh, with a population of 75,000, is the largest of 12 Palestinian refugee camps in Lebanon. Nearly all Palestinian factions have offices in the camp, where political assassinations, vendettas and other violent incidents are common.
Posted by: Fred || 09/19/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A masked gunman opened fire at the entrance of a Palestinian refugee camp in Lebanon Monday, seriously wounding two guerrillas

Were they masked, or not? That's what I want to know.
Posted by: gromgoru || 09/19/2006 6:17 Comments || Top||

#2  Um, isn't everyone there? I'm just saying...
Posted by: flyover || 09/19/2006 10:23 Comments || Top||

#3  Nearly all Palestinian factions have offices in the camp, where political assassinations, vendettas and other violent incidents are common.

Wow. Cause and effect right there in one sentence.
Nice work JPost...
Posted by: tu3031 || 09/19/2006 19:17 Comments || Top||


Good morning...
Sonny Nicole Smith's Second Autopsy InconclusiveMuslim countries ask UN to address Pope's remarksChirac: UN resolution 1701 must be enforcedSomalia's president escapes assassination attempt; 11 killedUK terror suspect goes silent 'to protect family in Pakistan'Iraq violence kills 35 as govt expresses optimismN.J. senator had no-work job
Posted by: Fred || 09/19/2006 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Room Service."
No Sir, Knock me over with a feather is just an expression..."
Posted by: USN,Ret || 09/19/2006 0:12 Comments || Top||

#2  Domestic help wanted, apply at laptop.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/19/2006 0:34 Comments || Top||

#3  very naughty!
Posted by: RD || 09/19/2006 0:50 Comments || Top||

#4  And make sure you do a really good job of cleaning that spot in the middle of the dining room table, would you please?
Posted by: gorb || 09/19/2006 0:51 Comments || Top||

#5  I don't see it Sir.
It's right under that table.
Here?
Yaeh, but a little lower. A little lower....there you go.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 09/19/2006 8:22 Comments || Top||

#6  Did anybody named Linda Muslim ever look like that?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 09/19/2006 8:35 Comments || Top||

#7  Here's Linda Muslim:
Posted by: Steve White || 09/19/2006 9:53 Comments || Top||

#8  Too colorful. Kill her.
Posted by: flyover || 09/19/2006 10:06 Comments || Top||

#9  Geico's Gecko lady again. Just another lizzard.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/19/2006 10:20 Comments || Top||

#10  Does she do windows? Ya know I have some really high ones... Also some real low ones...

As for Linda Muslim - she is showing her ankle - obviously a temptation to sexually repressed devout muslims more accustomed to viewing boys butts during prayers and must be stoned to death!
Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/19/2006 10:23 Comments || Top||

#11  Gee, with my back problems and my wife's MS, we were looking for a maid. Wonder if she's available - and does windows. I'll even supply the uniforms...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 09/19/2006 12:13 Comments || Top||

#12  She looks very naughty, I think she needs a good spanking
Posted by: Steve || 09/19/2006 12:53 Comments || Top||

#13  Woohoo Linda! Show me your elbows!
Posted by: Thoth || 09/19/2006 12:57 Comments || Top||

#14  No Heady today? :-(

(kidding, thought that RB is becoming a "Heady fan club", try, every day, eating... not sure what was on my mind... nevuh mind)
Posted by: twobyfour || 09/19/2006 18:32 Comments || Top||

#15  I watched Boy on a Dolphin day before yesterday and thought is would be nice to see some classic Sophia - not her ogling Jayne's goods.

She does a helluva
wet-tshirt
peasant
young siren
water nymph
60's icon
diva
glamor gal
cover girl
movie star (keeper)
even as a 71 yr old siren...

So there.
Posted by: flyover || 09/19/2006 19:12 Comments || Top||

#16  Great, half of the links are hosed. Apologies.
Posted by: flyover || 09/19/2006 19:16 Comments || Top||

#17  the peasant shot was worth the effort
Posted by: Frank G || 09/19/2006 19:19 Comments || Top||

#18  I guess the sites don't allow linking (?) - I just went back through my image search and they're all there. I'm not good at this stuff, sorry. This is where I should say that the missing images were unbelievably awesome, right? LOL.
Posted by: flyover || 09/19/2006 19:27 Comments || Top||

#19  stop it. just stop it. you tease
Posted by: Frank G || 09/19/2006 20:03 Comments || Top||

#20  Stick this URL in your browser:
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a9/ralphgl/march%2023/Sophia_Loren_No.jpg

Now that's about as good as it gets, I think... :)
Posted by: flyover || 09/19/2006 20:12 Comments || Top||

#21  Can't anyone photoshop linda naked?
Posted by: Thoth || 09/19/2006 23:09 Comments || Top||

#22  Nevermind. It would probably get her killed. :/
Posted by: Thoth || 09/19/2006 23:10 Comments || Top||



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