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Afghanistan
Afghanistan: Militants, civilians killed in clash; NATO soldier dies
US-led coalition and Afghan troops clashed with insurgents during a raid in eastern Afghanistan on Friday, leaving several militants and civilians dead, while a British soldier died in a blast in the country's volatile south. Separately, a US civilian helping Afghan farmers died in a roadside bomb explosion in an eastern province Thursday, officials said.
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Taliban

#1  Just amazing they can tell the militants from the civilians when they are dead like that.
Posted by: Unique Battle || 10/06/2007 18:52 Comments || Top||


Africa Horn
Top Somali officer assassinated in Mogadishu.
A Deputy attorney general of the transitional federal government, Abdul-kadir sheik Mohamed Ayatollah, has been killed in a bomb explosion in Bakara market in Mogadishu on Friday. Ayatollah along with his companion died on the spot after armed men believed to be insurgents hurled a hand grenade on his car while driving through Bakara market, one the most recent violent places in Mogadishu. Eyewitnesses say, after the explosion the attackers fired more bullets on the victims bringing their sudden death.

The dead body of the deputy attorney general of the Transitional government could not be taken away from where he was assassinated; his body was on the ground for several hours, for there have been an exchange of gunfire between insurgents and government police force who wanted to lift the body of the deputy general, According to eyewitnesses near scene.

It has been reported that the relatives of the deceased officer have lately managed to carry his body from where the assassination had taken place. The deceased aged 43 held different posts for the former Somali governments and he has left behind one daughter and her mother. The officials of the TFG govt. have accused insurgents of being behind his assassination and they said that they will track down the perpetrators.
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Islamic Courts

#1  How can a guy whose name is made up of all the top muzz buzzwords get waxed? Just unlucky? Or are those "power names" not so powerful after all?
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/06/2007 13:41 Comments || Top||


A cargo plane hijacked in Somalia
( Sh.M.Network)-Unidentified Gunmen in Somali’s northeastern semi autonomous region of Puntland have hijacked a cargo plane from Bosaso airport carrying khat, a narcotic leaf, on Thursday afternoon, according to some officials of the semi-autonomous region of Puntland.

The hijackers armed with pistols have managed to hijack the plane and said to have landed it at Lasqorey town in Sanag region. Puntland officials have not yet given further details about the hijacking and the number of crews on board, but unconfirmed sources suggest that the plane was Russian made plane working in the horn of Africa. The officials say they are investigating he motives behind the hijacking.
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Islamic Courts

#1  Being "Russian made", its probably crashed by now.
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 10/06/2007 8:03 Comments || Top||


Somalia: Fierce fire in Bakara bazaar
(SomaliNet) Severe fire started yesterday at dusk at Mogadishu's main business point, the inferno caused vast losses of wealth including clothes, cooking utensils and food stuff.

Bakara is a big market and it has different sections of different items so the sections where the fires destroyed mainly are: cookeries items, books, paints, and raffia. Number of explosions could be heard inside the market which seems to be paint cans likewise the sound of bullets could sparsely be heard as well. The real cause of the fire is yet in mystery, but some reports are saying what ignited the fire might be a stray bullet.

The capacity of the fire was so strong that the flame and the smoke engulfed the whole market. This sort of fire is observed annually or biannually. The possibilities to putt off the fire was not possible due to the congest of the market and it was quite difficult for the fire engines to enter the market.

Banadir regional police commander colonel Hussein Dumal told Shabelle that H/ Wadag police unit apprehended number of individuals who looted properties from the market. He also added that they took two people who were injured by the fire to medic centers. On the hand in another statement the colonel said that the regional administration set up a committee to monitor the extent of the damage.--
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Islamic Courts


Africa North
Algeria: Army Kills Suicide Bomber in Tizi Ouzou
A terrorist called Mohamed Ouaza alias Walid was killed by the Popular National Army forces in the wilaya (province) of Tizi Ouzou (100 km east of Algiers) on Monday, according to reliable sources. The terrorist was going to carry out a suicide attack on a police station in the region, said the same sources.

The 24-year-old man joined terrorist groups in 2003 and was working in Algiers and its suburbs. The terrorist was eliminated after a new repentant terrorist in Tizi Ouzou told the army forces that he was going to join terrorists in this province.

Walid who was carrying a considerable quantity of explosives tried to overcome a checkpoint buy the army forces prevented and opened fire on him. An automatic weapon, bombs likely to be used in a suicide attack and CD-ROMs that contain many terrorist acts and suicide bombs were recovered. According to a new repentant terrorist in Tizi Ouzou, the so-called terrorist Walid was responsible for recruiting new members especially children to carry out suicide attacks in different regions of Algeria.
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2007 20:05 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Egyptian police uncover smuggling tunnel leading to Gaza
Egyptian authorities discovered a freshly dug tunnel leading under the border to the Gaza Strip and arrested an Egyptian man inside it, a security official said Friday. Moussa el-Mallahi confessed to police that he used the tunnel to smuggle explosives, money and weapons to militants on the other side of the border, said the security official. Authorities decided not to seal the tunnel in hopes of catching more smugglers attempting to use it, the official added.
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  Yeeessss. Rather than merely closing the tunnel we will cleverly lie in wait for more culprits. This press release will do nicely as, um, bait.
Posted by: Baba Tutu || 10/06/2007 0:44 Comments || Top||

#2  Moussa el-Mallahi "forgotten" to clear Egyptian customs. That is an unforgivable sin.
Posted by: twobyfour || 10/06/2007 0:58 Comments || Top||


Africa Subsaharan
WND : 10 Christians slaughtered over alleged Muhammad cartoon
61 injured, 9 churches burned, hundreds displaced after rumored 'insult' to Islam

Rampaging Muslims have killed 10 Christians, injured 61 others, destroyed nine churches and displaced more than 500 people in northern Nigeria, according to eyewitnesses – all because Muslim high school students claimed a Christian student had drawn a cartoon of Islam’s prophet, Muhammad, on the wall of the school’s mosque.

The rampage occurred Sept. 28 in the town of Tudun Wada Dankadai, in Nigeria's northern state of Kano.

According to Compass Direct News, which specializes in reporting on Christian persecution worldwide, there are 1,500 students at the high school, called Government College-Tudun Wada Dankadai, of which only 14 are Christians, and only seven of those actually live on campus. The Christian students at the school insist no one ever saw the alleged cartoon, and furthermore that no one in the tiny minority group of Christians would have dared such a feat, especially during Ramadan.

"How can we take such a risk when we know that we are a minority and cannot stand [against] them?" Christian student Shehu Bawa told Compass. "This is a lie created to have a reason to attack us."

Eighteen-year-old student Iliya Adamu told Compass he was getting ready to go to class when a group of Muslim students stormed into his dorm and began to beat him.

"I was surprised that they were beating me without telling what I did," Adamu said. "I asked to know what was happening, and they claimed that one Christian student had gone to their mosque to draw a cartoon of Muhammad. In spite of my denying the act, they kept beating me."

Seeing the Muslim mob beating a Christian classmate named Sule La’azaru, Adamu ran to the principal's office for refuge, soon to be joined by the remaining Christian students there, according to the report.

Despite the attempts by the Muslim teachers to stop the rampage, Muslim students began throwing stones at the Christian students through the window of the principal's office, wounding student Ayuba Wada in the head.

"I was inside the office of our principal, with the others, when suddenly the Muslim students began throwing stones at us," Wada told Compass. "It was through this way that my head was broken. I was bleeding, and no help came as the situation became more riotous."

Eventually, the rampaging Muslim students broke into the principal's office, but the principal's arrival saved Wada's life, while the other Christians holed up there managed to escape the mob.

One of the Christian students, Shehu Bawa, told Compass his arrival on campus that morning was punctuated by shouts of "Allahu Akbar" (Allah is Great) "all over the school." In fact, he said, "The Muslim students were now attacking every Christian student on sight. Four of us ran into the office of the vice principal, but when it was finally broken into by the Muslim students, we ran out and escaped."

What about the alleged cartoon of Muhammad, rumors of which instigated the attacks?

"We suspect that either one of the Muslim students in the school did this to create an excuse for us to be attacked, or that a Muslim fanatic from the town might have done this to spark off a fight among Muslims and Christians," said Bawa. "How could we have done this when Muslim students are always around the mosque day and night because of the Ramadan?"

The rampage spreads far and wide

After attacking the few Christian students in their school, the rampaging Muslim students poured into the streets of Tudun Wada, joined now by other Muslims. For the next four hours, reports Compass, the growing mob burned down Christian churches, vandalized Christian property and murdered innocents.

Among the churches burned were: St. Mary’s Catholic Church; St. George’s Anglican Church; Evangelical Church of West Africa; Assemblies of God Church; First Baptist Church; a Pentecostal church called the Mountain of Fire and Miracles Church; an African independent church, the Cherubim and Seraphim Church; and two other Pentecostal churches, The Chosen Bible Church and Deeper Life Bible Church.


The 10 Christians murdered included: Augustine Odoh and his younger brother Cosmos Odoh, both members of St. Mary’s Catholic Church. Another Catholic, Joseph Eze, was also killed. When Compass filed its initial report, the corpses of the three Catholics were lying at the City Hospital in Kano city. Seven other Christians murdered were buried in a common grave Wednesday, but government workers did not allow relatives or church leaders to identify the corpses.

The dozens of injured are being treated at the Assumpta Clinic, Nomansland in Sabon Gari area of Kano city.

According to Musa Ahmadu Haruna, the priest of St. George’s Anglican Church, Tudun Wada Dankadai, whose church was burned, no Christian student in the school could have drawn an image of Muhammad.

"None of these students is capable of drawing a cartoon on a mosque," he told Compass Direct. "That is a frame-up to find a reason to attack us."

Another pastor, Rabiu Danbawa of the Evangelical Church of West Africa, said that upon hearing of the waves of attacks on Christians, he moved toward the town's center to see for himself what was transpiring.

"I stood as they set fire on our churches one by one," he told Compas Direct. "There was nothing I could do," he said, adding, "I did not know the fate of my wife and my children." When he went to the local police station for help, Danbawa found the police turning away Christians who had run there to escape the attack. "We were told to leave, as our safety could not be guaranteed," he said, in tears, according to Compass Direct. "Women and children all scampered to the bush, only to be attacked by the Muslims who had already hid themselves in the bush awaiting their Christian prey."

It wasn't until several days later that Danbawa found his wife and children safe.

Accoroding to reports from Compass, Danbawa and his family are now refugees in Dogon Kawo village, along with other Christian victims. None have food or shelter, he said.

Even Christian policemen were not immune, with about 30 officers and their families being attacked and their homes looted and set on fire.

Last week's massacre comes in respose to a call in July by the Sultan of Sokoto, Abubakar III, to Muslims in northern Nigeria to rise against Christianity. Kano's state government has led the way in northern Nigeria for the implementation of sharia Islamic law.

Mark Lipdo, director of the Stefanos Foundation, which ministers to persecuted Christians in Nigeria, told Compass he's shocked that the Nigerian government has done nothing to help the injured and displaced.

"It is surprising that an overwhelming thing like this that has displaced thousands of Christians is not known to the Nigerian government," he said, noting that the government initially downplayed the mass rampage. "The government must act to check such unprovoked attacks against Christians."

And Haruna of St. George’s Anglican Church said, "We are living under persecution in Kano state, and yet, we are being told that we are under a democratic government. Do Muslims really want us to co-exist together as a nation? I doubt so."

As WND reported in May, Christians in Nigeria, who make up about half the population, fears the imposition of Islamic law throughout that nation.

Indeed, as WND has reported, Muslim rioters in Nigeria in 2006 were incensed over cartoons of Muhammad published in Denmark, and more than 130 Christians in the Nigerian cities of Maiduguri and Onitsha were slaughtered.

The reports documented six children burned to ashes in front of their father, according to Voice of the Martyrs.

WND also has reported nearly 1,000 homes of Christians and many churches have been destroyed in these regions.

"If you go around villages, you will see people missing one hand or one foot," explained Rev. Obiora Ike. "Do you think that's the result of an illness? That is the result of sharia law."

More than 10,000 Christians have been martyred in the region since the Islamic law was imposed in the region in 1999, and Voice of the Martyrs has helped surviving family members through its Families of Martyrs Fund with Care Packs, Village Outreach packs and words of encouragement to believers who stand for their faith "amidst volatile, uncertain conditions."
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/06/2007 13:18 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It is all the fault of the Christians for not renouncing Christianity and following the rules of Allan.
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/06/2007 13:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Killing, raping and pillaging all in the name of a child-molesting, murdering, lying, cheating, paranoid-schizophrenic man who had delusions of grandeur?
Posted by: anymouse || 10/06/2007 13:51 Comments || Top||

#3  It appears that—whenever this sort of anti-Christian violence is conjured up—there needs to be a swift elimination of such disagreeable Moslems immediately thereafter. Take the Muslim inhabitants of Tudun Wada Dankadai and expel them into some unoccupied area while letting them know that any who return will be killed on sight. The only other alternative is simply killing all of them to begin with. A process such as this will guarantee the remaining Muslims are ones that can peaceably coexist with Christians, if indeed such a species of Muslim even exists.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2007 14:13 Comments || Top||

#4  What about the alleged cartoon of Muhammad, rumors of which instigated the attacks?

"We suspect that either one of the Muslim students in the school did this to create an excuse for us to be attacked, or that a Muslim fanatic from the town might have done this to spark off a fight among Muslims and Christians," said Bawa. "How could we have done this when Muslim students are always around the mosque day and night because of the Ramadan?"

Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2007 14:15 Comments || Top||

#5  This is why some sort of harsh measures are required. Unchecked, there will be a pattern of escalating self-inflicted "insults" by Muslims that will be used to justify flat-out genocide against Christians everywhere. This notion has already been proven by the way that Danish cleric Ahmed Abu Laban intentionally inserted incendiary and wholly unrelated images into the set of cartoons published by Jyllands-Posten. The highly inflammatory nature of these falsely attributed images was a major contributor to the worldwide violence that claimed many Christian and Muslim lives alike.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2007 14:17 Comments || Top||

#6  How many incidences like this before people realize the only solution?
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 10/06/2007 14:19 Comments || Top||

#7  grrrr......incidents
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 10/06/2007 14:20 Comments || Top||

#8  This incident is more than likely an extension of this exact same behavior. Only by making it unmistakably clear that such incidents directly result in loss of all property or loss of life will the Muslims be given any pause. The alternative is religious cleansing of all Christians from Muslim lands. We've already seen this in the Palestinian territories, Lebanon, Pakistan and Iraq. It is a persistent and consistent pattern of Muslim behavior. No other proof is required.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2007 14:20 Comments || Top||

#9  "If you go around villages, you will see people missing one hand or one foot," explained Rev. Obiora Ike. "Do you think that's the result of an illness? That is the result of sharia law."

Is anyone willing to bet against the fact that a goodly number of those amputees are not Muslims but, instead, Christians? Shari'a law is a crime against humanity and must be eradicated. The West needs to strip all legitimacy from this hideous abuse of human rights and set about making it a source of shame and humiliation for those who practice such a barbarous draconian code.

As with many such outdated penal systems, Japan's savage Tokugawa legal code no longer exists and there is no compelling reason why our modern world must endure the constant predations of such filth as shari'a law. By itself, the blatant misogyny of shari'a is reason enough to ban it from this earth. Examine the remaining portion of this vile garbage posing as law and the need for its elimination becomes overwhelming. Islam must be served clear notice that it no longer has the luxury of lingering in the first millennia of legal jurisprudence. Either it modernizes or the Western world is obliged to dismantle this death cult's claptrap post haste.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2007 14:21 Comments || Top||

#10  PS: Apologies to all for the numerous posts. Learned a few more of them pesky key words today, we did.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2007 14:22 Comments || Top||

#11  Napalm, GBUs and cluster bombs do a right smart job of setting muslims right on who's the big cheese in these parts. Used judiciously, they can change hearts and minds - or eliminate them, which serves the same purpose.

I'm getting very tired of muslim arrogance. Nuking the entire MME would be justice well served, as far as I'm concerned. I might have a slight twinge of conscience about killing 1.3 billion people, but the next bit of extremism by those remaining will end that quickly enough.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/06/2007 14:36 Comments || Top||

#12  Islam is a threat to humanity. It is a death cult and needs to be treated as such.

And ruthlessly eliminated.
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/06/2007 14:50 Comments || Top||

#13  Awaits squeals of "genocide" from the usual suspects ...

[crickets]
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2007 15:03 Comments || Top||

#14  It's Ramadan, should we expect anything less?
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 10/06/2007 15:04 Comments || Top||

#15  I think George W Bush should go there and explain to the Christians that Islam is a religion of Peace and its all their (the Christian's)fault.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/06/2007 15:36 Comments || Top||

#16  Awaits squeals of "genocide" from the usual suspects ...

It's like beating a dog that pisses on the carpet. After a while, you still have urine-soaked carpets, and the dog considers the beating as a form of attention.
Posted by: Pappy || 10/06/2007 15:51 Comments || Top||

#17  Pappy, from your comments am I supposed to believe that you condone selective enforcement?
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2007 16:17 Comments || Top||

#18  Alt F5 is working pretty well. All I see is a list of odd posters.


Genocidal maniacs is one sub-directory.
Posted by: Thomas Woof || 10/06/2007 18:18 Comments || Top||

#19  Sorry I'm late. Genocide!

It is clear that there are large groups of Muslims who must be at least sequestered. And I don't count my Muslim friends here in Pennsylvania among them.

Christian minorities among Muslims in non-secular countries are targets, plain and simple. Christian organizations would do well to help the Christian minorities relocate to the civilized world. If we can all agree on that, it will be easier for Zenster to have his genocide later if necessary. Kind of like Israel pulling out of Gaza.
Posted by: Darrell || 10/06/2007 18:23 Comments || Top||

#20  The insanity and ingrained viciousness of Islam has come to be accepted without judgment as its followers plumb new depths of depravity.

In a more rational world the idea that Muslims would murder due to the provocation a mere *cartoon* provides would be seen as an outrage demanding fierce retaliation.
Posted by: Grumenk Philalzabod0723 || 10/06/2007 19:01 Comments || Top||

#21  In a more rational world the idea that Muslims would murder due to the provocation a mere *cartoon* provides would be seen as an outrage demanding fierce retaliation.

I could not agree with you more, GP7023. Obviously, others in this thread feel even stonger about this than you or myself. Unsubstantiated allegations notwithstanding, I continue hoping a credible deterrent to Islamic terrorism exists that does not require genocide. For instance, targetted killings of Islam's clerical, academic and financial elite presents itself as a possibility. My own hopes aside, there seems little likelyhood that anything short of a Muslim holocaust will dissuade Islam from its current course. I doubt that any of these repeatedly stated positions will interfere with the intellectual bankruptcy that others engage in when they continue to accuse me of advocating genocide without a single cite or quote to back their slander. So be it.

Old Patriot, while I cannot agree with what you suggest, there is no way possible for me to wholly condemn it either. Islam's incessant atrocities continue to erode my personal opposition to first use of nuclear weapons against the MME (Muslim Middle East). I truly wish Western political leadership had the moral fiber to initiate a campaign of targetted killings. Instead, all of us are treated to the spectacle of our personal liberty being surrendered to the most savage and barbaric death cult in history. Our bipartisan leadership voluntarily abdicating so many centuries of hard-won progress is a crime that rivals those of Islam itself.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2007 20:04 Comments || Top||

#22  Pappy, from your comments am I supposed to believe that you condone selective enforcement?

It means that I've given up on those who advocate 'final solutions' without knowing what it portends, or who do but will be mysteriously 'away from the table' when the bill come due.

It means that I've given up on the Kinder Kriegers: the child warriors who clamor loudly for action and bombs and the iron fist but who will never do the heavy lifting, nor mop up the blood and bits of flesh afterwards.

It means that I've given up on those who look at the 'rant' in Rantburg as a substitute for intellectual activity, research, and plain common sense.

It means that I have marines and corpsmen that take a higher priority, than dealing with Rantburg's growing cadre of LGF-commenter wannabees. I'll moderate Rantburg, hunt down the trolls, and post on occasion. But I won't comment when you and your ilk post your unthinking rote.

You'll continue to 'piss on the carpet' regardless. So to hell with it.
Posted by: Pappy || 10/06/2007 20:23 Comments || Top||

#23  Thank you for responding, Pappy. Do you disagree that a campaign of targetted killings against Islam's elite could achieve major strides in our battle against Islam? Are you willing to dismiss the fact that I have been advocating this from the very earliest times I began posting at Rantburg? Do you deny that, with many of my earliest posts here at Rantburg, I have sought to identify some sort of credible deterrent against Islamic terrorism? Do you refuse to accept that all of these efforts upon my part represent a direct attempt TO AVOID THE GENOCIDE OF A MUSLIM HOLOCAUST?

I do not desire our troops to bear the responsibility of gunning down whole villages of Muslims. I do not wish to impose the moral burden upon our military leadership of instigating a massive nuclear attack against the MME (Muslim Middle East). If you do not feel these statements are in earnest, please show where I have EVER indicated otherwise.

I will maintain that our current war on global terrorism is marinally adequate at best. Especially so, in light of the political spinelessness being demonstrated here at home. I will maintain that such an unwillingness to more forcefully address Islam's adamant hostility to all things Western represents a dire threat to civilization.

Finally, Pappy, knowing fully well you could give a hot damn about my own personal approbation, I will nonetheless express appreciation for your willingness to engage this topic in a meaningful manner. The vast majority of those who oppose my positions do so with strawman arguments, lies, slander, distortions or whatever they choose to substitute for valid debate. You do not resort to such cheap shots and have my admiration for it.

Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2007 20:43 Comments || Top||

#24  Can Fred install a macroscript filter?
Posted by: WhoWonFlorida? || 10/06/2007 21:14 Comments || Top||

#25  Ooooh, look at that. A strangely familiar comment by someone without the testicular endowment to include an email addy or use a more recognizable 'nym for the occasion. Boy howdy, what a persuasive debating technique.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2007 21:48 Comments || Top||

#26  Pappy doesn't need your approval IMHO
Posted by: Frank G || 10/06/2007 21:57 Comments || Top||

#27  Roger that, Frank.
Posted by: lotp || 10/06/2007 22:01 Comments || Top||

#28  Pappy doesn't need your approval IMHO

Frank, what part of "knowing fully well you could give a hot damn about my own personal approbation", don't you understand? You, too, LOTP.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2007 22:51 Comments || Top||

#29  Pappy's right IMO that you continue to piss on the carpet Zen.

I'm not speaking as a mod or for the site but as an individual: I'm getting more than a little tired of your constant, hostile challenges to anyone who doesn't step up to your keyboard bloodthirstiness.

If you have to incessantly challenge, maybe you should do it to others rather than to Pappy, who himself was wounded in combat in the Gulf and who works with Marines and Navy corpsmen up close and personal in this war. While you man a high volume keyboard.

He took time this time to respond. I won't bother doing it when you challenge me. I have loved ones, colleagues and close friends in theater. I've buried students of mine and friends over the last few years. I have loved ones and colleagues who would have to execute any attacks we make in Iran or elsewhere, bear any moral burdens from split second, life and death decisions, risk their lives.

That's a service they've taken on willingly and freely. But it's not one you have the right to demand they give in response to your black and white perceptions about the world.

My husband served during the cold war and our daughter and to a lesser degree I helped pay the price of that. Close family members of mine were in the missile silos and in command headquarters in the 80s, prime targets all for nuclear annihilation - and in a couple cases the cost to them was crumbling marriages and kids who moved with their moms to another state. I have had family members risk their lives in every war this country has engaged in since the 1940s. I've made smaller sacrifices myself in order to contribute to the GWOT.

And I'll be damned if I'll be lectured via this site on whether or not I'm sufficiently committed to defending our civilization and our way of life against the particular threat we happen to face today.

That's the first and last rant you will ever get from me on these topics.
Posted by: lotp || 10/06/2007 23:14 Comments || Top||

#30  I'm getting more than a little tired of your constant, hostile challenges to anyone who doesn't step up to your keyboard bloodthirstiness.

My "bloodthirstiness" certainly explains why I continue to solicit any and all possible ways of avoiding a Muslim holocaust.

If you have to incessantly challenge, maybe you should do it to others rather than to Pappy, who himself was wounded in combat in the Gulf and who works with Marines and Navy corpsmen up close and personal in this war.

Perish the thought that my personal respect for Pappy and his honorable replies to my posts go unnoticed.

He took time this time to respond.

And I did my best to show some genuine appreciation for it. More than you have done when I've provided verifiable input that happened to contradict your own personal world-view.

That's a service they've taken on willingly and freely. But it's not one you have the right to demand they give in response to your black and white perceptions about the world.

Where do I "demand"? I seek some definite resolution. Let there be no doubt, but you're totally off base in thinking that I refuse to accept any other alternative. Why the hell else would I continue to openly solicit varying opinions and differing viewpoints?

My husband served during the cold war and our daughter and to a lesser degree I helped pay the price of that.

And I've paid a significant price riding Silicon Valley's economic boom-bust cycles all the while contributing to the Stealth Bomber, Space Shuttle and other defense programs.

Close family members of mine were in the missile silos and in command headquarters in the 80s, prime targets all for nuclear annihilation

And Silicon Valley isn't a prime target?

And I'll be damned if I'll be lectured via this site on whether or not I'm sufficiently committed to defending our civilization and our way of life against the particular threat we happen to face today.

Pray tell, when have I EVER questioned your commitment to the GWoT? All of us have something that we can bring to the table. The moment I forget that, I'll bow the hell out of here. Until then, I'll only ask that you please do not participate in the slander that goes on against me. To that extent, you have not specifically done so. Yet, you have also ignored direct refutations by me to positions you've held and, like it or not, that has not set well with me.

Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2007 23:33 Comments || Top||


Europe
Youths riot in French town
French police clashed overnight with youths who went on a rampage in a town in eastern France, prompting Interior Minister Michele Alliot-Marie to travel to the troublespot.

Between 40 and 50 masked youths used metal bars to smash a firefighters' vehicle and a police car dispatched to a shopping mall in Saint-Dizier, said Yves Guillot, the head of the Haute-Marne regional government. The youths then fanned out across the town of 30,000 inhabitants, setting fire to two buildings, a car rental office and 16 vehicles. Police reinforcements were sent in to quell the violence.

"We are trying to understand what happened. We have had clashes in our town but not on this scale," said Mayor Francois Cornut-Gentille.

Between 40 and 50 masked youths used metal bars to smash a firefighters' vehicle and a police car.

The youths then fanned out across the town of 30,000 inhabitants, setting fire to two buildings, a car rental office and 16 vehicles.
The youths are said to be residents of Saint-Dizier's low-income housing project, Vert-bois, which is home to 12,000 people.

Alliot-Marie was due to travel to Saint-Dizier, some 200 kilometers (125 miles) east of Paris, after police and fire emergency authorities were targeted in the violence, her office said.

Hundreds of suburbs across France exploded into rioting for three weeks in late 2005, highlighting the nation's failure to integrate its Arab and African immigrants
Posted by: lotp || 10/06/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A town of 30k has a housing project of 12k? A social experiment gone bad? That town sounds like it's outnumbered.
Posted by: Xenophon || 10/06/2007 0:17 Comments || Top||

#2  Maybe they learned BRITAIN wants to start taxing every second bag of trash waste, ala DAILY MAIL.UK. Precedent for French croissants???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/06/2007 0:36 Comments || Top||

#3  Youths? Were they Presbyterians by chance? The article doesn't say.
Posted by: gromky || 10/06/2007 1:34 Comments || Top||

#4  Not Hugenots, that's for certain.
Posted by: twobyfour || 10/06/2007 2:00 Comments || Top||

#5  Jacobins.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2007 3:37 Comments || Top||

#6  I'm full of sympathy.
Posted by: gromgoru || 10/06/2007 3:48 Comments || Top||

#7  How did you manage to pull that off, grоmgoru?

Ah! /sarc missing ;-)
Posted by: twobyfour || 10/06/2007 3:52 Comments || Top||

#8  French Citizens + Shotguns + The Will To Shoot = Docile Immigrants.

Either Docile From The State of Ded-ness or Busy Docile From The State of Working and/or Going to School.
**************

#6 I'm full of sympathy.

#7 How did you manage to pull that off, grîm'goru?

#8 symp is gr0m's middle name.

~:)

/bad bad sincerely RD bad
Posted by: Red Dawg || 10/06/2007 4:46 Comments || Top||

#9  From that, the CarBBQ total is 40, plus the buildings ransacked or torched.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/06/2007 4:47 Comments || Top||

#10  French Citizens + Shotguns + The Will To Shoot = Police Crackdown on Militias, MSM Hysteria About The "Darkest Hours Of Our History™" (AKA Vichy), Subsequent Laws Restricting Gun Possession Even More.

If/When someday there is some kind of convulsive crisis like the ones France has undergone regularly since the inception of the Republic, I have no doubt that if the Enlightened Elites find themselves threatened, they will have no qualms supporting the "daughters sons of the Republic" from the 'hoods against the raaaacccisssts and the faaassciissts.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/06/2007 4:52 Comments || Top||

#11  anonymous5089 whats up with the French attitudes towards the immigrants today?

we didn't see hardly any Social reps excusing the rampaging behavior of the "youths" in that clip.

Does this mean that folks are changing their bleeding heart sentiments in France now, or does does it mean that my French comprehension skills just suck?
Posted by: Red Dawg || 10/06/2007 5:01 Comments || Top||

#12  You touched on part of that, but if you want plz elaborate.
Posted by: Red Dawg || 10/06/2007 5:04 Comments || Top||

#13  That's a real question, I should let a real person like JFM answers that. I'm not a real person, I just play one on the internet.

IMHO, french attitude has shifted; speech has been freed, with stuff that literally would have ended someone's social life only a few years ago being put on print in MSM mags, like "Le Point" making articles about the muslim flavor of french crime (with 70% of those processed through the judicial system being from immigrant background), or the out of control and violently racist gangs of black Youths.

This is part of a larger shift in french society; as the symptoms worsen, the Enlightened Elites find it hader and harder to hide Reality™ being newspeak. After all, even if he's passed the occasion, Sarko has been elected as a "rupture" (paradigm shift) president. French people know something is terribly wrong, with the way the country is ran, and with what's happening with immigration.

BUT, apart from that relative liberty and change of discourse (because the overbearing PCness of earlier times is getting more and more ridicule and unsustainable), the antiracist orgs still are State-funded and still sue peoples into conforming, despite the fact their mask has fallen and they appear for what they are, like that 53 years old woman being currently sued after she refused to rent to a veiled woman in her guest house (probably a set up from the start, a sting operation if you wish),... and there still is the whole infrastructure of social engineering in the 'hoods, with complicit (either becasue they're Youths themselves, or because they're trotskysts) social workers, the billions and billions of euros spend on them yearly,...

So, if you want to get my uneducated guess (ask JFM for a real analysis), Reality™ has not improved, quite the contrary, because the heavy political, demographical, cultural,... trends still are here, but speech has become less restricted. Mags can speak about african gangs now, but back in the 90's, there were the "zulus", black african gangs with some whose speciality was gangraping white girls for recreational or initiation purpose (not a fantasy, many were jugged, until the gangs were broken); in 1998, after the world cup victory, there was much much violence during the celebrations on the night of the victory, with Youths attacking european-looking french... Nothing has changed, just that now, the mags have admitted that in the 90's, they kept mum so not to "feed the National front", that in 1998 they kept mum because that victory was the victory of the France Black-blanc-beur (the "rainbow France"),...

How can the Forces of Progress pretend there is no anti-white racism from the Youths, when their kids get beaten up and assaulted when they do the ritual demonstrations against the Man, and the joyful Youths explain they love to kick whitey's ass, because he's weak and effete, and he doesn't fight back? How can they say there are no more immigrants today than in the 1930's, when Paris and the areas are so heavily africanized, with even the leftist/PC national statistics institute Insee admitting that 1/4 of french births come from parents with non-european backgrounds?

And all this, funnily enough, when the most visible expression of the french "unease" about rampant immigration, mismanagement of the country, and unwanted transformation of the Nation into something else, the FN, being basically dead, with its new leftist/multiculturalist (for lack of a better term) stance that has lost it half its voters... who went to vote Sarko and his "tough talk". Heh.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/06/2007 5:39 Comments || Top||

#14  Hie thy self unto ye range 5089. It'll do wonders for your self-esteem and your nerves, wymens love teh gunz.


Also, hellacious commentary.

Posted by: Thomas Woof || 10/06/2007 5:47 Comments || Top||

#15  Already? They usually wait until November. Only a moron would attack a fire truck.

What's the burnt car record? 10,000? Maybe they will top it this year.
Posted by: McZoid || 10/06/2007 6:27 Comments || Top||

#16  Car BBQ total jumped after the 2005 ramadan riots; now it's about 100 a day, for a grand total between 30 and 40K a year, counting only insured cars, and the initial fires (that is, if your car burns and destroy the car parked right next to it, only your it counted in stats).

It's one of those mindboogling numbers from the Happy Land of France, kinda like the 600 or so bombings each year in Corsica, back in the late 80's & 90's (now, it's down to about only... 100 a year IIRC).
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/06/2007 6:58 Comments || Top||

#17  Bombings in Corsica? I didn't real about that in The Washington Post.

Oh, that's right; I don't read Mrs. Bobby's WaPo.

But 'Burgers provide perspective! Thanks A5089!
Posted by: Bobby || 10/06/2007 8:05 Comments || Top||

#18  Two things to watch for:

1. Will it spread
2. How will Sarkozy respond

The future of France is in the balance:)
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 10/06/2007 8:05 Comments || Top||

#19  #17 Bombings in Corsica? I didn't real about that in The Washington Post.

Whenever Corsica is mentioned, I post that link (scroll down for effect), this always cracks me up :-).

The independence mvt now is basically moribund, at least for the time being, and the way the various successive gvts haggled with the favorite splinter group of the moment, all the while the nationalists were busy making money through revolutionnary taxes, killing each others, and bombing State buildings, shooting up police stations, and blowing up houses owned by metropolitans has been a three decades long Quagmire.
Remember, the high mark was 600 bombings a year (a part of them not political, corsicans are well-famed for packing hea, a rare thing in France, and being "trigger happy"... this is vendetta land, and grudges are to be settled the old fashioned way for some), for a 250 000 inhabitants islands.
Posted by: anonymous5089 || 10/06/2007 8:20 Comments || Top||

#20  Why, A5089, they FLNC looks just like other terrorists! Whotta surprise!
Posted by: Bobby || 10/06/2007 9:37 Comments || Top||

#21  The trend has shifted in France. Everything runs in cycles, and the cycle of tolerance has reached its zenith, now less and less tolerance as time marches. Expect violent reaction in a year or two.
Posted by: wxjames || 10/06/2007 10:44 Comments || Top||

#22  Photo Sharing and Video Hosting at Photobucket
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/06/2007 11:00 Comments || Top||

#23  Damn, thousands of them little guys. What a picture!
Posted by: Thomas Woof || 10/06/2007 11:31 Comments || Top||

#24  Hundreds of suburbs across France exploded into rioting for three weeks in late 2005, highlighting the nation's failure to integrate its Arab and African immigrants

Had to read all the way to the last paragraph for this little clue about the identity of the "youths". I guess you could say that at least it was there. Sometimes I get so much from the Rantburg comments than I do from the original article.
Posted by: Abu Uluque6305 || 10/06/2007 12:52 Comments || Top||

#25  Sometimes I get so much from the Rantburg comments than I do from the original article.

So much more I meant to say.
Posted by: Abu Uluque6305 || 10/06/2007 12:53 Comments || Top||

#26  "Between 40 and 50 masked youths"

Dammit French press, when are you gonna start calling things by their proper names? I have no sympathy for France as long as you let muzzies flood in, and refuse to call them by their proper name, even in the face of their violence and atrocity.
Posted by: mcsegeek1 || 10/06/2007 14:23 Comments || Top||

#27  #25 Sometimes I get so much from the Rantburg comments than I do from the original article.
So much more I meant to say.
Posted by: Abu Uluque6305 2007-10-06 12:53


It ain't called Rantburg U for nothin!
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/06/2007 14:47 Comments || Top||

#28  Car BBQ total jumped after the 2005 ramadan riots; now it's about 100 a day, for a grand total between 30 and 40K a year, counting only insured cars, and the initial fires (that is, if your car burns and destroy the car parked right next to it, only your it counted in stats).

All social implications aside, this one figure is a mind-bender.

Due to intentional under-reporting, the real number is easily some 50,000 torched cars per year. Let's select a median price of $20,000 per car. I'm sure that with their prohibitive luxury taxes, European car prices average much higher but we'll stick with the $20K figure.

$20K price x 50K CBQs = $1,000,000,000, that's ONE BILLION DOLLARS.

One billion dollars flushed down the Islamic toilet each and every year.Who's fooling whom? Where does this money come from and, more importantly, how is anyone deceiving themselves about the overwhelmingly negative impact of Muslim immigrants upon France? Add in whatever untold billions spent on the legenday French social services that support this overburden of Islamic parasites and these numbers approach some fraction of a trillion dollars spent each year.

Lastly, it becomes increasingly difficult to summon up much sympathy for those who so cheerfully collaborated in creating the Eurabia Pact. I realize that the common French people had little say in the actions of their political elite but they elected these communist Arabophillic thugs and must now suffer the consequences.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2007 14:53 Comments || Top||

#29  Where does this money come from

At the very least their car insurance premiums are gonna be skyballin'.
Posted by: Abu Uluque6305 || 10/06/2007 17:59 Comments || Top||

#30  $20K price x 50K CBQs = $1,000,000,000, that's ONE BILLION DOLLARS.

Damn! That's near 1/12 of the Missississississississippah state budget.
Posted by: O. Fabus (ret. und ded) || 10/06/2007 18:27 Comments || Top||

#31  McZoid, sniping at fire trucks and ambulances was de rigeur when our cities burned in the late 60s.
Posted by: RWV || 10/06/2007 20:37 Comments || Top||

#32  200 Klicks east of Paree? The splodie-wannas seem to have reconstituted in coueboy country.
Posted by: Leonard Plynth Garnell || 10/06/2007 20:50 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Afghan drug jihadi gets 16 years
A once-powerful Afghan drug lord who boasted that he was waging "jihad" on Americans by flooding New York's streets with heroin was sentenced to nearly 16 years behind bars on federal drug charges yesterday. Haji Baz Mohammad, 51, was hit with the prison term in Manhattan federal court after pleading guilty to heading a massive drug organization that manufactured $25 million worth of heroin in Afghanistan and Pakistan from 1990 to 1995.

The drug kingpin, the first ever extradited from Afghanistan, is accused of using money he reaped from the drug trade to finance the Taliban and other terror groups, which in turn protected his poppy fields and drug labs.
This article starring:
HAJI BAZ MOHAMADTaliban
Posted by: ryuge || 10/06/2007 09:11 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I don't think anyone convicted of selling drugs should receive less than 10,000 years in jail. Anything less encourages them.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/06/2007 14:50 Comments || Top||


Terror figure heard urging strike against Sears Tower
The alleged leader of a group accused of plotting terrorist attacks in the US repeatedly mentioned the Sears Tower as a target in a videotaped conversation with a paid FBI informant shown in court Friday. Narseal Batiste mentions the Chicago skyscraper, along with the Empire State Building in New York City and a National Guard armory in northern Miami as potential attack sites. His comments are caught in surveillance video filmed in the apartment of Abbas al Saidi, a Yemeni national who Batiste believed was connected with al-Qaida but actually was working for the FBI.
This article starring:
Abbas al Saidi
Narseal Batiste
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: Global Jihad

#1  We need to make an open declaration to the muzzies that any further attacks on the United States WILL result in the nuking of an important muzzie site - with no areas off limits. An attack on any major city - Mecca goes up in a nuclear sunrise. Any attack on our allies, and 20 mosques get hammered with tac nukes - in 20 different cities (kinda sucks to be around or downwind of them...). A major attack on our armed forces, or the armed forces of our allies, and the Aswan Dam becomes radioactive rock vapor (being downstream is REALLY gonna suck). A nuclear attack against Israel OR the United States means that the 296 largest cities in the MME become glass skating rinks. No taqiyyia, no jizyah, no hudna, and no forgiveness - just one big orgy of big, BIG weapons used as they were intended to be used. Oh, and we'll pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan, leaving some ticking time bombs behind. "Live by the sword, die by the sword". It's time for Islam to grow up and acknowledge there are other types of people in the world that have an equal right to live and worship as they please, or it's time for Islam to die. Time is running out.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/06/2007 14:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Old Patriot, I may not totally agree with you but please rest assured that what you propose represents one of the few credible deterrents to Islamic terrorism. Long ago Mrs. Davis suggested we give due notice to all rogue and terrorist regimes that a single nuclear atrocity upon American soil would result in all of them getting a dose of bottled sunshine. It is no sort of major jump to extend that to any sort of new atrocity.

I continue in pressing all of the talented minds we have here at Rantburg to please cudgle their wits and suggest any other viable alternatives. The West had damn well better come up with some truly inventive options or else, soon enough, Islam will paint us into the corner of simple nuclear annihilation.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2007 20:58 Comments || Top||

#3  My solution, make the Black Rock evaporate (Non Nuclear) with a "Rod from God", or by nudging a real meteorite a bit.
No radioactivity, no "Fingerprints" and do it quietly. (Like the Syrian "Hole in the desert)

Nothing destroys a religion (Very loosely speaking)like a direct message "God doesn't like you".
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 10/06/2007 22:58 Comments || Top||

#4  Nothing destroys a religion (Very loosely speaking) like a direct message "God doesn't like you".

Anyone would have figured that all the earthquakes and tsunamis might have communicated such a notion, but noooooooooooooooooooooo!
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2007 23:02 Comments || Top||

#5  My solution, make the Black Rock evaporate

RJ, this is something I've been trying to address as well. Some major setbacks, including destruction of significant religious symbols, might just begin to undermine Muslim confidence. It's a program that really needs to begin stat. Nailing Iran on "World Quds Day" would have gone a long towards shaking any faith in their invincibility. This is something that needs to be done on a monthly weekly daily hourly continuous basis.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2007 23:07 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Hyderabad on alert for suicide bombers
The city of Hyderabad in India has been put on high alert following a warning by intelligence agencies about the presence of four alleged suicide bombers in the city. An increased watch has been ordered and security stepped up in public places and places of worship, especially in the Muslim dominated old city area.

Police sources said intelligence agencies were on the lookout for four Bangladeshis whom they suspect of carrying explosives. Police believe that Bangladesh-based Harkat-Ul Jihad-e-Islami was behind those blasts as well as suicide explosion at the police commissioner's office in 2005. They suspect that HUJI is planning more suicide attacks.
Posted by: ryuge || 10/06/2007 09:42 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Civilian dead, eight soldiers injured in Miranshah
A civilian was killed, eight soldiers sustained injuries and a house was blown up on Friday in various incidents in North Waziristan, officials said.

Army bases hit with missiles: Militants fired 14 missiles at a military base in Miranshah, leaving four soldiers injured. Militants also fired missiles at the Ghulam check post, 15km north of Miranshah. No causalities were reported.

Military convoy attacked: Militants attacked a military convoy at Chashma, 5km east of Miranshah, with remote-controlled bombs, injuring two soldiers. The same military convoy was attacked again at Kurram Kot, 18km east of Miranshah. When the convoy reached Pathahi Adda near Mir Ali, soldiers opened fire at a petrol pump and blew up an oil drum. In the Mir Ali bazaar, sources said troops shot dead Noor Saleh, son of Stoori Khan. Militants attacked FC personnel near the Match Factory from a house with bombs. The attack left two soldiers injured. The security forces blew up the house in retaliation.
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Taliban


Seven rebels killed in northeast India
Security forces have shot dead seven separatists in three clashes in India’s restive northeastern state of Manipur, authorities said Friday. Police commandos and army soldiers gunned down three militants about 50 kilometres from the state capital Imphal, police said. “Rifles and grenades, besides a large cache of ammunition, were recovered from the dead militants,” said a senior police official who did not want to be named.

Four more rebels died in two other clashes in Manipur, said army spokesman Colonel LM Pant. Security forces in Manipur stepped up anti-insurgency operations after separatists killed five paramilitary troopers Wednesday in an ambush.

The People’s Revolutionary Army of Kangleipak, which is fighting for an independent homeland for the majority Metei community, claimed responsibility for that attack. More than 19 militant groups are active in Manipur, which borders Myanmar, with demands ranging from secession to greater autonomy. More than 10,000 people have lost their lives to insurgency in Manipur during the past two decades.
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Iraq
Coalition forces target foreign terrorist facilitators: 12 killed, four detained
Coalition forces killed 12 terrorists and detained four suspects Friday while conducting operations targeting al-Qaeda in Iraq in the northern and central parts of the country.

Coalition forces conducted an operation in Baghdad targeting an associate of al-Qaeda in Iraq senior leaders. When the ground force arrived in the target area, they observed a group of armed men on the roof of a building. Coalition forces called the buildings’ occupants to come out, and the individuals on the roof began to reach for their weapons. Coalition forces again issued verbal warnings and the men did not comply. Perceiving a hostile threat, the ground force engaged the armed men, killing seven terrorists. Surveillance elements led Coalition forces to a follow-on location, where they detained a suspect who left the target building prior to the engagement.

Also in Baghdad, Coalition forces captured one wanted individual while conducting an operation to further disrupt the greater Baghdad foreign terrorist facilitation network. The suspect is allegedly the courier for the southern belt and is involved in facilitating finances to support terrorist operations in the region.

Near Yusufiyah, Coalition forces killed four terrorists, including an associate of al-Qaeda in Iraq believed to be a foreign terrorist facilitator in the southern belt. The wanted terrorist was also alleged to have close ties to Abu Usama al-Tunisi, the former emir of the region who was killed during an operation Sept. 25. As Coalition forces approached the target area, they observed four armed men, two of whom were wearing military-style assault vests, maneuver away from the target building. Perceiving hostile intent, Coalition forces engaged, killing them. In addition to the military-style assault vests, the ground force discovered several rifles, grenades and a backpack with explosive material.

Coalition forces killed one terrorist in Kirkuk while targeting an alleged al-Qaeda in Iraq foreign terrorist facilitator operating in the al Tamim province. When Coalition forces called for the target buildings’ occupants to come out, three men fled the building refusing to comply with instructions. Perceiving hostile intent, the ground forces engaged, killing one terrorist. One of the individuals was followed to a nearby house, where the owner identified him and he was detained.

In Samarra, Coalition forces conducted an operation to deny sanctuary to al-Qaeda in Iraq and captured a wanted terrorist who identified himself to the ground force. “We’re continually hitting al-Qaeda in Iraq and its networks,” said Maj. Winfield Danielson, MNF-I spokesman. “Iraqi and Coalition forces are disrupting al-Qaeda in Iraq’s operations and the supply of foreign terrorists, hindering their ability to attack innocent Iraqis.”
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in Iraq

#1  Well at least our rethoric is becoming more sophisticated. We have gone from "smugglers" to "facilitators" and from "vigilantes" to " concerned citizens". What I am waiting for is to go from "captured" to "killed".
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 10/06/2007 8:09 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm old school. I just want to hear they were liquidated...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/06/2007 13:34 Comments || Top||


Al-Qaeda tries and fails to stand up to concerned citizens
An al-Qaeda in Iraq effort to reestablish a position in the southern Baghdad province town of Hawr Rajab was repulsed when concerned local citizens engaged the terrorists with small-arms fire and called in U.S. forces for assistance Oct. 2.

While two concerned citizens were wounded in fighting and treated at a nearby hospital, four enemy fighters were killed, an additional two wounded, and multiple insurgent weapons destroyed. U.S. forces detained one of the enemy wounded and transported the other for medical treatment at Camp Cropper.

Events began mid-afternoon, when concerned citizens contacted Multi-National Division – Center Soldiers after spotting suspected AQI vehicles in the vicinity of Hawr Rajab. A quick reaction force comprised of Paratroopers from 1st Squadron, 40th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team (Airborne), 25th Infantry Division, attached to the 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry. Division responded to the call for assistance.

The U.S. Soldiers moved into town to find the concerned citizens already engaged in small-arms fire with AQI terrorists hiding in a boys’ school. After the brief engagement, the terrorists were observed fleeing the scene in a blue truck.

An air weapons team was called in to pursue the vehicle and later destroyed the truck and killed four terrorists. The engagement also destroyed two AK-47s and a 23 mm anti-aircraft machine gun in the back of the van. Numerous calls to tips line by Iraqis in the wake of the incident confirmed the identity of the men as AQI.
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in Iraq

#1  Do you see? Iraqis are not stupid. They will not put up with this crap either.
Posted by: newc || 10/06/2007 0:11 Comments || Top||

#2  In Iraq's north, KURDS > are worried about local anti-Kurd terror via a resurging ANSAR AL-ISLAM [ KURDS read-IRAN]!?
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/06/2007 0:39 Comments || Top||

#3  A quick reaction force comprised of Paratroopers from 1st Squadron, 40th Cavalry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team (Airborne), 25th Infantry Division, attached to the 2nd Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry. Division

Interesting OB.
Posted by: Thomas Woof || 10/06/2007 5:51 Comments || Top||

#4  This sort of news shows the future of Iraq may be better than our more optimistic guesses.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/06/2007 15:59 Comments || Top||


4th Iraqi Army Division accomplishes independent assault
Iraqi Security Forces and Concerned Local Citizens, in response to local citizens’ tips, conducted a unilateral operation 15 miles southwest of Samarra in the early morning of Oct. 4. Several terrorists were killed, 27 hostages were rescued, and a sizable cache of weapons and equipment were discovered during the operation.

Acting on intelligence tips received from CLCs in western Salah ad Din province, elements of the 4th Iraqi Army, along with Iraqi Police from the 2nd Emergency Response Unit, uncovered 27 varied weapon systems, including DSHKA heavy machine guns, in addition to rescuing 27 truck drivers and destroying eight enemy cargo trucks.

While conducting site exploitation, IA Soldiers were engaged by dozens of enemy fighters with small-arms fire. The gunfight resulted in eight terrorists killed, including two potential senior leaders. Additionally, 37 suspected terrorists were detained.

During the collective effort between the IA, IPs and CLC, two IEDs detonated against the combined team while traveling to the site, killing Sheik Maawiyah Naji Jebara, a senior member of the Salah ad Din Support Council, and wounding another sheik.

“The loss of Sheik Maawiyah is a great tragedy for Salah ad Din, and his leadership will be sorely missed by all who knew him,” said Hamed Hamood Shekti al-Qaisi, governor of Salah ad Din. “He died heroically fighting against al-Qaeda and he will be an example for all Iraqis who yearn for a strong and independent Iraq.”

CF provided medical evacuation to a Coalition hospital. In total, there were two IPs killed, two IA killed, four CLC killed, and more than 20 injured.
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency

#1  CLC's, huh? You know you're hot when you get your own acronym
Posted by: Frank G || 10/06/2007 7:17 Comments || Top||


Ground, helicopters team to kill 3 extremists during raid
Attack helicopter pilots, supporting Soldiers from Company A, 1st Battalion, 15th Infantry Regiment, killed three extremists and wounded two others during an air assault into a suspected enemy sanctuary the night of Oct. 3 near Al-Bawi.

Soldiers from Company A conducted the raid to disrupt insurgent activity along the Tigris River north of Salman Pak. An attack aviation element from the 1st Battalion, 3rd Combat Aviation Brigade provided aerial support with two AH-64 Apaches, while the 4th Battalion, 3rd CAB provided helicopters to move the Company A Soldiers to their target.

“The Al-Bawi area is very well protected by the enemy with deep-buried improvised explosive devices along the main routes,” said Maj. John Cushing, from Rochester, Mich., the 1-15th Inf. Regt. operations officer. “An air assault operation is a great way to reach areas like Al-Bawi to confirm or deny enemy sanctuaries.”

While Company A Soldiers were clearing three groups of houses, pilots from 1-3rd CAB identified five armed individuals moving toward the Company A Soldiers.

The 1-3rd CAB pilots were able to kill three during their initial engagement and the Company A Soldiers later detained two individuals. “Last night, we were able to kill armed insurgents attempting to flee the area,” said Cushing. “We showed the enemy, once again, that we can reach out and touch them at the time and place of our choosing.”
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency


Four Local Nationals killed, 30 wounded in VBIED explosion in Tal Afar
Four Sunni Iraqis were killed and 30 wounded when a vehicleborne improvised explosive device detonated in a market in Tal Afar Oct 5. “Our thoughts and prayers go out to the families of those who were killed in these senseless acts of violence that do nothing but target the innocent,” said Lt. Col. Michael O. Donnelly, spokesperson for the 25th Infantry Division. At the time of detonation, a candy store was the only store open at the market. The wounded were transported to a Tal Afar hospital. This incident is under investigation.
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency


US says 37 militants killed in Iraq
About 37 suspected Iraqi militants were killed in an air strike on Friday during a raid targeting a “special groups” commander working with Iran’s Revolutionary Guards, the US military said. US troops were engaged in what was described as a heavy firefight west of Baquba, capital of Diyala province, during a raid around dawn against a commander it said was linked to Iran’s elite Quds force.

South of Baghdad, the US military said it was investigating the deaths of three civilians shot by US troops near a checkpoint manned by local tribal police in Abu Lukah village near Mussayab on Thursday. In the Baquba operation, support aircraft were called in when militants firing assault rifles and rocket-propelled grenades, with one insurgent thought to have an anti-aircraft weapon, attacked US soldiers. “Perceiving hostile intent, support aircraft engaged and killed an estimated 37 criminals and destroyed two buildings,” the US military said in a statement.

Police and hospital sources said 37 people were killed and another 35 wounded in the air strike. They said four houses were also destroyed.

Three US soldiers killed: Three US soldier were killed on Friday in two separate roadside bomb attacks in Iraq that wounded another five troops, the US military said. Two were killed and two others wounded when a device detonated during operations in southeastern Baghdad, a US military official said.

Another soldier was killed and three were wounded by a roadside bomb near the oil refinery town of Bayji in central Salaheddin province, according to a second statement. US forces announced earlier that a soldier had been killed on Thursday as a result of small arms fire during an operation in the south of Baghdad. Their deaths brought the overall toll of US military losses since the March 2003 invasion to 3,809, according to an AFP tally based on Pentagon figures.

The operation early on Friday targeted what the US military described as a “special groups” commander, a term it often uses to describe militants it says are linked to Iran. “Intelligence indicates he was responsible for facilitating criminal activity and is involved in the movement of various weapons from Iran to Baghdad,” the statement said. It did not say whether the man was among those killed.

While not specifically linking the man to the Mehdi Army militia loyal to fiery anti-American cleric Moqtada Al-Sadr, the military said it welcomed Sadr’s pledge in late August to suspend all Mehdi Army operations for up to six months. “We will not show the same restraint against those criminals who dishonour this pledge by attacking security forces and Iraqi citizens,” the statement said.
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: IRGC

#1  Where is Idaho these days? Still in Qom or that quality trailer NE of Teheran?
Posted by: Thomas Woof || 10/06/2007 11:35 Comments || Top||

#2  Iranian-backed militias in Baquaba? Were they trying to move into a perceived vacuum, now that we've cleared out al Queda for them from the region?
Posted by: Mitch H. || 10/06/2007 11:36 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Paleo arrestfest as Hamas & Fatah detain each other's cadres
Palestinian Islamic Resistance Movement (Hamas) and Fatah Movement exchanged accusation of carrying out arrests among followers of each other Friday.

Fatah-led security bodies in the West Bank arrested a number of Hamas activists in Hebron and Jenin, Hamas said in a statement received by KUNA here. The security services nabbed Mohammad Abu-Arqoub, a 42-year old teacher, in Al-Majd town, while heading for his school in Hebron. They also arrested Nader Yassin, a Hamas activist in Anin village, west Jenin city, north the West Bank, according to the statement.

Meanwhile, Fatah accused the Executive Force, belonging to Hamas movement, of carrying out arrests among Fatah activists in Gaza Strip last night. The detainees, who were nabbed in Al-Nasr district of Gaza city, include the brothers Adnan, Monthir and Hassan Al-Qom'e, Nasser Al-Meshharani and Mohammad Al-Maqousi, Fatah sources said. The executive force searched the homes of the detainees before taking the detainees away, the sources added.
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/06/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  This carries all the fascination of watching two scorpions fight to the death.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2007 0:06 Comments || Top||

#2  LOL! A purrrfect imagery, Zen!
Posted by: twobyfour || 10/06/2007 0:56 Comments || Top||

#3  Have they moved their coutrooms to the rooftops of ten-story buildings yet?
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/06/2007 2:15 Comments || Top||

#4  Muslim firing squad: they line up and shoot each other.
Posted by: McZoid || 10/06/2007 17:19 Comments || Top||

#5  #4 Muslim firing squad: they line up and shoot each other

and miss
Posted by: Frank G || 10/06/2007 17:21 Comments || Top||

#6  and miss

The greatest heartbreak of all, exceeding even that of psoriasis.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2007 20:12 Comments || Top||

#7  Kind of anticlimactic when compared to the Paleo circular firing squad. :(
Posted by: Mike N. || 10/06/2007 21:21 Comments || Top||


Troops kill gunman near Gaza fence
IDF troops killed a Palestinian gunman near the border fence in the central Gaza Strip overnight Thursday. The gunman fired at the soldiers and he was shot dead in the ensuing firefight. There were no casualties among the troops. In a separate incident, several mortar shells fired from the Strip toward the western Negev landed near the central Gaza fence. No one was wounded and no damage was reported.

In the West Bank, IDF troops were fired on in the Balata refugee camp in Nablus and two Molotov cocktails were thrown at the soldiers. No one was wounded.

Meanwhile, southeast of Nablus, IDF troops stopped a car carrying three Palestinians and found an improvised weapon in their possession. The weapon was confiscated and the Palestinians were transferred to police for interrogation.

Troops found another improvised weapon, together with Kalashnikov bullets and a hunting rifle, in Ram a-Tira, southeast of Kalkilya. The soldiers had entered the village to break up a fight between rival Palestinian gangs.

In addition, southwest of Hebron, an explosive device was detonated near a police patrol. No one was wounded.

In another overnight incident, an Israeli vehicle was damaged after it was pelted with rocks thrown by Palestinians near Tarkumiya, northwest of Hebron. No one was wounded.
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  In the West Bank, IDF troops were fired on in the Balata refugee camp in Nablus and two Molotov cocktails were thrown at the soldiers.

It says a lot about a given culture—and none of it at all complimentary—when the only cocktails they prefer are Molotovs.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2007 0:13 Comments || Top||

#2  IIRC Arafat preferred a different set of cocks and tails...flaming, you might say :-)
Posted by: Frank G || 10/06/2007 11:29 Comments || Top||

#3  Ya mean a Flaming Homersexual?
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2007 16:15 Comments || Top||

#4  I was trying for subtlety .....for once.
Posted by: Frank G || 10/06/2007 16:27 Comments || Top||

#5  [clutches feebly at chestal region]

Thud!
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2007 16:49 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Village leader gunned down in southern Thailand
An assistant village head was gunned down in Yarang district in the violence-torn province of Pattani when he was leaving a mosque to his house on Saturday afternoon. A gunman shot Waehama Hama, 40, in a drive-by shooting. The victim died at the scene. An investigation is underway to determine whether the killing is related to the southern jihad unrest or is Buddhist fundamentalists a personal conflict.

Meanwhile, in Narathiwat, a combined military and police force detained two men suspected of involving in terrorism insurgency and eight persons in connection with illegal drugs during a raid in four spots in Yi-ngo district. The police seized a firearm, ammunition, explosives, and illegal drugs. Two suspects arrested for suspected involvement with an internal security-related case were sent to a military camp for further questioning.
Posted by: ryuge || 10/06/2007 08:15 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Angels over Damascus
DEBKAfile Exclusive: Three groups of experts - Russian, Iranian and Syrian – still at sea over why Syria’s two early warning stations failed to protect its skies or identify Israeli air force raiders on Sept. 6.

DEBKAfile’s military experts conclude from the way Damascus described the episode that the electronic systems and radar of the Pantsyr-S1 air defense missiles were a letdown because they failed to down the intruders and therefore leave Syria and Iranian airspace vulnerable to hostile intrusion.

Such information on the Russian weapons systems sold to Syria and Iran is essential to any US calculations of whether to attack Iran.

Full article by DEBKAfile’s military sources of Sept. 7: HERE

These revelations were followed up on Sept. 21 by DEBKA-Net-Weekly 318 (for subscribers): Syria’s vulnerability

DEBKA-Net-Weekly’s military sources report that the Syrian early warning station, positioned at Marj as Sultan, 15 km east of Damascus and north of the Syrian air base at the international airport, is there to secure the Syrian capital and monitor Israeli air or missile activity on the Golan and from northern Israel.

The Shinshar station south of Homs, near the small Syrian air base of Al Qusayr Shayrat, is located opposite northern Lebanon. Its function is to sound the alarm if airplanes, missiles or warships approach Syria from Lebanese territory of from the eastern Mediterranean.

When the early warning stations in Syria were silenced, some communications systems, computers and cell phones were also knocked out in neighboring Lebanon – evidence that Syria had been bested in a cyber war against its electronic and radar systems.

DEBKAfile adds: Syrian war planners are at sea on several key points, such as:

1. When and from which did direction did the warplanes enter Syria airspace – the Mediterranean, Israel or Turkey?

2. Was the incursion a one-off or one of several which went unnoticed?

Until Israel released the bare information of the Sept. 6 air raid over Syria this week, neither Damascus nor Tehran knew for sure the identity of the air raiders, whether Israeli American or both.
Posted by: gromgoru || 10/06/2007 14:28 || Comments || Link || [11 views] Top|| File under:

#1  IAF to Syria: "BOO!"
Posted by: Frank G || 10/06/2007 16:28 Comments || Top||

#2  It's good to be the good guys.
Posted by: Bobby || 10/06/2007 17:36 Comments || Top||

#3  Tell them ists our secret "Rods from God" program, Really give them a heart attack.
Posted by: OldSpook || 10/06/2007 17:59 Comments || Top||

#4  It's good to be me.
Posted by: Avner Root || 10/06/2007 18:24 Comments || Top||

#5  The Iranian regime continues its tone of defiance but they must be factoring the abject exposure of Syrian airspace into their political calculations.

The only deterrents that remain to strikes against facilities in their own country are the logistical difficulties involved in long range aerial strikes and the unleashing of a potential reprisal wave against Israel and U.S. targets abroad and disruption in the Persian Gulf - and with Israeli missile defense systems proven operational and effective and a U.S. carrier battle group stationed near the Gulf those threats could be surmounted.
Posted by: Grumenk Philalzabod0723 || 10/06/2007 18:49 Comments || Top||

#6  Sounds like Russian ass-covering to me. "No, it's not that our systems are crap, it's those wily Jewish hackers!"

Next thing the Russians will sell them will be network security equipment and consulting. Which, when push comes to shove, won't work either.
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 10/06/2007 19:43 Comments || Top||

#7  and that would be bad...why?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/06/2007 21:25 Comments || Top||

#8  "from which did direction did the warplanes enter Syria airspace – the Mediterranean, Israel or Turkey?"

Or Iraq?
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/06/2007 23:07 Comments || Top||

#9  "From which did direction did the warplanes enter Syria airspace – the Mediterranean, Israel or Turkey?"

How 'bout "All of the Above". Prove it ain't so...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/06/2007 23:17 Comments || Top||


Lebanon issues warrant for Fatah al-Islam's leader
Lebanon said on Friday it has issued an arrest warrant for the leader of an Al-Qaeda inspired Islamist militia whose fighters were involved in a deadly 15-week battle with government troops. Judge Ghassan Oweydat said the warrant has been issued for Fatah al-Islam's Palestinian chief Shaker al-Abssi, whose fate remains unknown, and 36 other fugitive militants.

The judge is handling the case over the standoff between Fatah-al Islam and Lebanese troops that erupted in May at the impoverished Palestinian refugee camp of Nahr al-Bared in the north of the country. Almost 400 people were killed, including an estimated 222 militants and 168 soldiers, until the fighting ended after a final assault by the army on September 2. Oweydat suggested that Abssi, whose wife had at one stage identified his body in a morgue although DNA tests subsequently determined it was not him, was still alive and probably in Lebanon.

Also on Friday, general prosecutor Saeed Mirza charged 20 suspected Fatah al-Islam militants, 17 of them in absentia, with murder and terrorism, his office said. They included 16 Palestinians and four Russians, the statement said. A total of 331 members of Fatah al-Islam, including 150 in detention, have been charged since August in connection with the bloodshed.
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Fatah al-Islam


Lebanon charges four Russian citizens with terrorism
Lebanese authorities Friday charged 20 suspected militants, including four with Russian citizenship, with terrorism for alleged membership in the al-Qaida-inspired Fatah Islam group, judicial officials and the state-run news agency said. Prosecutor General Saeed Mirza filed the charges against 16 Palestinians and four Russians, the officials said condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak to the media. Three, including one Russian, are in detention while the rest are at large, the officials added.
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Fatah al-Islam

#1  Kossacks? Or Khazakhs?
Posted by: twobyfour || 10/06/2007 1:00 Comments || Top||

#2  Or "Chechens"?
Posted by: Scooter McGruder || 10/06/2007 3:56 Comments || Top||

#3  Ya, but they were seventh day adventists, no? Maybe perunists?
Posted by: twobyfour || 10/06/2007 4:14 Comments || Top||


Good morning!
Posted by: Fred || 10/06/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Faye Wray triers the Chili

9.94

Somethings are always the delight.
Posted by: Thomas Woof || 10/06/2007 0:23 Comments || Top||

#2  May be im a mourner may be i deserve to do something else.
Need to feel the sense.
Posted by: NoppholoMom || 10/06/2007 12:58 Comments || Top||

#3  Had a friend in New Mexico that made the best Five Alarm Texas Chili in the world. He was from Aguascalientes, Mexico, and made his own hot sauce. You could start a forest fire with three drops...
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/06/2007 14:24 Comments || Top||

#4  You could start a forest fire with three drops...

I have a suspicious feeling that I'm about to enter the same bit of territory. Deacon Blues very kindly sent me some of his latest harvest including those +1,000,000,000 Scoville unit Bhutt Jolokia peppers. Later today I'll be dropping off some of them to my chilehead pal. If you listen closely, the screams of agonistic pleasure should be quite audible.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2007 15:46 Comments || Top||

#5  Zen tomorrow morning is when we'll hear the screams..
Posted by: Beavis || 10/06/2007 20:28 Comments || Top||

#6  Yeah, but those screams are purely agonistic and have nothing to do with pleasure.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/06/2007 21:53 Comments || Top||



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