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Baghdad: Gunmen kidnap 10 anti-al-Qaida tribal leaders
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Afghanistan
Reaper conducts first strike
Coalition airpower integrated with coalition ground forces in Iraq and the International Security Assistance Force in Afghanistan during operations Oct. 27, according to Combined Air and Space Operations Center officials here.

In Afghanistan, the Air Force's newest unmanned aerial vehicle, the MQ-9 Reaper, conducted its first precision combat strike sortie, targeting enemy combatants in Deh Rawod with a hellfire missile. The strike was reported as successful.

The Reaper's primary mission is as a persistent hunter-killer against emerging targets in support of joint force commander objectives. The MQ-9's secondary mission is to act as an intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance asset, employing sensors to provide real-time data to commanders and intelligence specialists at all levels.
Posted by: Sherry || 10/29/2007 11:50 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "Blooded"
Posted by: C-Low || 10/29/2007 12:54 Comments || Top||

#2  In Afghanistan, the Air Force's newest unmanned aerial vehicle, the MQ-9 Reaper, conducted its first precision combat strike sortie, targeting enemy combatants in Deh Rawod with a hellfire missile.

"Don't Fear the Reaper"
Posted by: Mike || 10/29/2007 12:58 Comments || Top||

#3  Persistent hunter-killer.
Has a nice ring to it, doesn't it !
Posted by: wxjames || 10/29/2007 13:03 Comments || Top||

#4  Heart. Cockles. Warmed!
Posted by: Natural Law || 10/29/2007 13:18 Comments || Top||

#5  #4 Heart. Cockles. Warmed!

DAMN HAWT!! OORAH!!
Posted by: Red Dawg || 10/29/2007 13:28 Comments || Top||

#6  Next up: The Berserker. GPS enabled, autonomous hunter-killer targeting by facial recognition and/or body-chem ID - stealthy and relentless.

Even John Connor would be impressed.
Posted by: mojo || 10/29/2007 13:54 Comments || Top||

#7  #4 Heart. Cockles. Warmed!

Ditto!
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/29/2007 15:03 Comments || Top||

#8  More cowbell.

Well, somebody hadda say it...

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 10/29/2007 15:58 Comments || Top||

#9  I wonder how it would do against one of these .
Posted by: Jack is Back! || 10/29/2007 16:01 Comments || Top||

#10  What altitude?
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 10/29/2007 16:12 Comments || Top||

#11  LOL Jack!
Posted by: Thomas Woof || 10/29/2007 16:53 Comments || Top||

#12  Jack is Back! LMAO!!

/utohhh sumthin started lol
Posted by: Red Dawg || 10/29/2007 17:30 Comments || Top||

#13  NS thats proably classifed.

But go figure the max range on a hellfire. Figure the shot to be taken 50-80%. Figure slant distance and an angle of say 60 degrees, do a bit of trigonomotry and you can probably ballpark it.
Posted by: OldSpook || 10/29/2007 18:25 Comments || Top||

#14  Thanks.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 10/29/2007 19:04 Comments || Top||

#15  ION, see also REEDIT > PENTAGON:ELCTROMAGNETIC PULSE BOMB FROM 2012. Contray to popular stereotype, you don't need nukes or advanced techs to set off an EMP device - good news for Terrorists.; + TOPIX > WORLD WAR IV, ITS COMING SOON, AND IT AFFECTS/HURTS YOUR NEST EGG. Nuke War, military drafts, and related whatnots are not good for your retirement, vacations nor personal stock options.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/29/2007 20:37 Comments || Top||

#16  Mega-Booyah! I want our enemies to die so often and unexpectedly that they fear dread wet their pants crap themselves even thinking about a remote chance of taking the field against us. Into that mix I would also like to add, "painfully", "horribly" and "slowly".
Posted by: Zenster || 10/29/2007 21:06 Comments || Top||

#17  Hooah!
Posted by: Legolas || 10/29/2007 22:40 Comments || Top||


Africa Horn
Mog enters second day of festivities as protest continues
(SomaliNet) Clashes have renewed in the Somalia capital Mogadishu on Sunday between the intensified local insurgents and the interim government troops following security raids aimed to crack down the insurgency, witnesses said – as hundreds of young people in the capital continue to demonstrate against the Ethiopian presence.

People in Hodan and Howlwadag neighborhoods began to flee their houses fearing for being caught in the crossfire as heavy explosions and artillery weapons could be heard in the area. There is no immediate casualty from the latest gun battle.

According to the local residents, heavily armed militants linked with the ousted Islamic Courts Union could be seen around KPP intersection as they had briefed occupied the Hodan police station yesterday after gun battle.

It is the second day of heavy clashes between the Islamists and forces of the interim government which had an impact on the business activity in south of the capital.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Islamic Courts


Six killed as Ethiopian troops start security sweep of Mog
(SomaliNet) As Ethiopian troops begun a security sweep of the violence-riven Somali capital Mogadishu, at least six Somali civilians were killed, witnesses said.

An eyewitness reported that the Ethiopian troops - whose presence in Mogadishu since December has been blamed for daily insurgent attacks - opened fire and killed three people when they came under attack near the stadium. Three other civilians were killed when the insurgents fired rocket-propelled grenades at Ethiopian troops patrolling a southern Mogadishu district, witnesses said.

Ethiopian forces patrolled some districts in tanks following the attacks, residents said. "The Ethiopian forces are conducting a large security operation in our neighbourhood," resident Farah Adan Sheikh told AFP. "Two tanks and several troops on foot are patrolling the Al-Baraka and Tarbunka areas," he said.
Posted by: Steve White || 10/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Islamic Courts


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
US Embassy Targeted by Azerbaijan Terror
BAKU, Azerbaijan (AP) -- The U.S. and British embassies suspended operations Monday in Baku, where the government said it thwarted a radical Islamic group's plot to conduct a "large-scale horrifying terror attack" against diplomatic missions and government buildings.

The Azerbaijani National Security Ministry said one suspect was killed and several others were detained in a weekend sweep outside the capital. The ministry said the Islamic group included an army lieutenant who stole 20 hand grenades, a machine gun, four assault rifles and ammunition from his military unit and made them available for the planned attack.
That would have made a mess.
The British Embassy in Baku temporarily closed Monday, and the U.S. Embassy sent out an announcement to American citizens saying it had closed its consular office for an indefinite period because of a security threat. No specifics were given.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 10/29/2007 10:23 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Down Under
Australian, Dutch and Afghani Soldiers kill at least 50 Taliban
* No coalition troops killed in attack
* Air strikes called to defeat rebels
* At least 50 Taliban insurgents killed

Australian soldiers have fought a six-hour battle with Taliban insurgents, killing at least 50 militants in a joint operation with Afghani and other NATO troops in southern Afghanistan.

No coalition troops were killed in Sunday's attack on a Taliban stronghold in Uruzgan province, which followed the deaths in the last three weeks of Australian soldiers David Pearce and decorated SAS sergeant Matthew Locke in Afghanistan.

Australian, Dutch and Afghani army soldiers launched the attack on Baluch village during a gathering of local Taliban, provincial police chief Juma Gul Himat said.

Charles Anthony, a spokesman for NATO's International Security Assistance Force, said that "several dozen militants were killed" in the clash.

"This was a well-led and well-co-ordinated engagement, with the Afghani National Army and ISAF working in conjunction with each other," he said.

Afghani Defence Ministry spokesman Zaher Murad said Afghan and ISAF forces, including Australians, fought the insurgents on the ground and called in air strikes to defeat the rebels.

Mr Murad said the Taliban had suffered at least 50 dead and 13 insurgents had been captured.

"We don't know exactly how many insurgents were killed, their bodies are still on the battlefield," he said.

Two policemen and an Afghani soldier were also wounded, Mr Jumat said.

Dutch and Australian troops form the bulk of ISAF forces in Uruzgan.

Afghan and mainly Western forces are struggling to contain a Taliban insurgency based in the south and east, which is hampering reconstruction and undermining faith in the Government of President Hamid Karzai.

Sunday's clash, in the south-central province of Uruzgan, comes as ISAF troops and Afghan forces are conducting a large offensive in the area against Taliban rebels.

"This is part of the Spin Ghar operation, which began on Thursday," Mr Murad said.

Violence in Afghanistan this year has been the deadliest since the 2001 US-led invasion, and more than 5300 people have died because of insurgency-related violence.

Also in the south, a roadside bomb against a US-led coalition convoy killed one soldier and wounded another, a coalition statement said. In the east, coalition forces raided a compound suspected of housing al-Qaeda facilitators, killing several militants on Sunday.
Posted by: Oztralian || 10/29/2007 17:12 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Good on ya Dutch and Diggers!
Posted by: OldSpook || 10/29/2007 18:23 Comments || Top||

#2  I notice the press keeps quoting total casualties without a breakout of bad guys. It looks like it was just increased by 1%. 1% here, 1% there. It all adds up.
Posted by: Throger Thains8048 || 10/29/2007 19:38 Comments || Top||

#3  Good going. Keep this up and Paradise will have to switch back to dispensing raisins to the "martyrs".
Posted by: GK || 10/29/2007 20:08 Comments || Top||

#4  It's NATO policy NOT to announce a count of enemy dead. I have an e-mail from them to that effect.

The Dutch are not deployed in an offensive mode. Last I had heard, their orders were to defend themselves only. Their Air Force, however, is kicking ass.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 10/29/2007 21:14 Comments || Top||

#5  SAID England unto Pharaoh, “I must make a man of you,
That will stand upon his feet and play the game;
That will Maxim his oppressor as a Christian ought to do,”
And she sent old Pharaoh Sergeant Whatisname.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 10/29/2007 21:56 Comments || Top||


Europe
Turkish army kills 20 PKK gunnies
Turkish troops killed 20 Kurdish guerrillas on Sunday in a major operation against separatist rebels in eastern Turkey, army sources said. The operation involved 8,000 troops with air support in the eastern province of Tunceli, hundreds of kilometres from the Iraqi border. The source gave no details on army casualties.

Ankara also feels threatened by Kurdish separatists using bases in mountainous northern Iraq for attacks on Turkey, and Turkey’s foreign minister said a military solution was still on the table to tackle these rebels. The outlawed Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) has killed about 40 people in the past month, including 12 soldiers in the latest major attack, and said it took eight soldiers prisoner.

In Istanbul, police in riot gear and armoured vehicles scuffled with demonstrators calling for the PKK’s jailed leader to be freed and protesting against an incursion into northern Iraq. Protesters hurled petrol bombs after some 200 people marched chanting through the streets. In nearby Izmit, three people at an anti-PKK demonstration were slightly injured by an explosion that bomb experts were investigating, the state news agency Anatolian reported. Other demonstrations were held across the country.
Posted by: Fred || 10/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  TOPIX/PAYVAND/OTHER > IRAN CLAIMS [via docs]US IS HARBORING/SUPPORTING KURDISH TERRORISTS.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 10/29/2007 0:16 Comments || Top||

#2  Is PKK only interested in killing Turkish soldiers or are we just not hearing about Iranian exercises? Are the Turks harsher than Iranians in their treatment of Kurds - or is it that only Turkey allows people like Totten to see how it treats its Kurds? Because, I personally would rather see the PKK burn off its testosterone against the IRGC. (I would accept efforts on behalf of Baby Assad's Kurds instead though.)
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/29/2007 7:02 Comments || Top||

#3  Glenmore - the IRGC is probably supporting the PKK with weapons and cash, so you won't see many clashes there. Tunceli is on the Iranian border, so you're probably seeing IRGC-supported PKK involved there.
Posted by: Old Patriot || 10/29/2007 14:10 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
10 militants killed in Swat clashes
Paramilitary troops backed by gunship helicopters killed 10 militants loyal to a pro-Taliban cleric on Sunday in Swat in the third straight day of clashes, officials said.

Troops targeted hideouts of the militants in scenic Swat valley, the stronghold of Maulana Fazlullah. “We have reports that 10 extremists were killed in the action,” military spokesman Major General Waheed Arshad told AFP. However, Online reported that 12 militants and two civilians had been killed.

Militants opened fire on security forces in Manglore and Kot, prompting retaliatory fire from troops backed by the helicopters, a military statement said. It added that security forces had driven militants from Fizagat village near Mingora. Gen Arshad accused the militants of terrorising and killing local villagers in the region. “We needed to take tough action against a handful of these extremists who are trying to defy the government’s writ and terrorise local people,” he said.

Girl killed, 12 injured: A girl was killed and 12 civilians including two reporters were injured by stray shells fired during the fighting between militants and security forces, Saleem Athar reports from Mingora.

Security forces have entered Manglor village, 10 kilometres northeast of Mingora, the main town in Swat valley, and forced militants to flee their hideouts, Gen Arshad said. “They are operating to establish the writ of the government in areas where miscreants have threatened public peace and order. The security forces have extended their positions,” Gen Arshad said. “Until such time as these people are evicted from the area and peace is restored and innocent people are given full security, I think this is going to continue,” he said.

Meanwhile, police and paramilitary troops set up sandbagged bunkers in Kabal. In the nearby village of Tiligram, militants blew up an unmanned police post. The violence has hit normal life in the region, bringing markets and other trade to a standstill, officials said. Thousands of people were reported fleeing towns and some roads were closed in Swat.

Jirga: Locals constituted a 25-member peace jirga that later met with the militants, Online reported. The jirga will later brief government authorities on their talks.
Posted by: Fred || 10/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: TNSM


Three rockets fired in Peshawar
Three rockets fired from an unknown location landed in the cantonment area here on Sunday, but no casualties were reported, police said. One of the three rockets, fired at around 4am, hit the upper storey of Awami National Party (ANP) leader Bashir Ahmed Bilour’s house on Tariq Road, and the other two landed in RA Bazaar and Defence Colony. Bilour’s house is across the road from the US Consulate. Peshawar police chief Abdul Majeed Marwat told Daily Times that the attack might have been aimed at the US Consulate. “We heard an explosion and went on the roof and saw the remains of the rocket. It caused some damage but everyone is safe,” AP quoted Bilour’s secretary Gul Muhammad Khan as saying. Police are investigating and explosive experts are examining the rockets.
Posted by: Fred || 10/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Taliban


Umme Hasaan denied entry into Jamia Fareedia
Police on Sunday barred Jamia Hafsa Principal Umme Hasaan and around 40 students from entering Jamia Fareedia, a Lal Masjid madrassa, disregarding the Supreme Court’s orders.

Umme Hasaan, wife of former Lal Masjid chief cleric Maulana Abdul Aziz, went to the madrassa in E-7 to take over administrative control. The Supreme Court had recently ordered the Islamabad administration hand over control of the madrassa to her.

Police said they had denied Umme Hasaan and her students entry into the madrassa because they failed to produce the deputy commissioner’s permission. They said Umme Hasaan would be allowed to enter the madrassa when she did so.
Posted by: Fred || 10/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Taliban


Maoists kill five villagers in India
Five villagers have been shot dead by suspected Maoists in eastern India, a day after the left-wing rebels killed 18 people, including a former minister’s son, in an ambush, police said Sunday.

“Five civilians were killed in Boda village by Maoist rebels levelling charges that they were police informers and involved in coal smuggling,” Rajiv Kumar Mallik, police spokesman for mineral-rich Jharkhand state, told AFP. “They were first abducted on Saturday night.” Villagers spotted the bodies in a forested area near their village some 120 kilometres west of state capital Ranchi.

The deaths come a day after 18 people, including the son of a former chief minister, were killed while watching a cultural performance organised by the politician’s family in another remote village in the state. About 16 of the state’s 19 districts are facing a Maoist rebellion that officials say has spread to half of India’s 29 states.

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has described the rebels as the single biggest threat to India’s internal security. The Maoists say they are fighting for the rights of neglected tribal people and landless farmers.
Posted by: Fred || 10/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Pak PM denies military ops in Swat as over 15 killed in clash
Pakistani Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz Sunday denied that any military operation has been launched in northern Sawat valley amid reports that the heavy exchange of fire has claimed more lives in the scenic valley. "On the request of provincial government for help in maintenance of law and order, Frontier Constabulary and Frontier Corps have been involved", he said while talking to newsmen in Southern Karachi city. "We are trying to restore peace in Swat", said the Prime Minister, adding that the situation will soon be under control because the government does not want disruption in law and order and loss of innocent lives.

His comments came as the military spokesman Waheed Arshad confirmed that on Sunday at least 10 militants were killed in clashes with security forces. Security sources told KUNA that in Sunday's gunbattle between supporters of local militant commander Maulana Fazlullah and security forces at least 15 including security personnel were killed and many were wounded. Forces launched offensive against Maulana and his supporters on Friday a day after a suicide bomber blew himself up near an army truck, carrying huge cache of ammunition. The explosion killed about 39 security personnel and wounded several civilians.
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:


Iraq
U.S. Army Brig. Gen. Jeffrey Dorko hit by roadsite bomb
Posted by: Oztralian || 10/29/2007 17:30 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: Al Badr

#1  Get well soon, General.
Posted by: DarthVader || 10/29/2007 17:38 Comments || Top||

#2  I've gotten massive link / trackback spam today under this name that takes you to a malware site. Beware.
Posted by: Chuck Simmins || 10/29/2007 22:00 Comments || Top||


Suicide bomber kills 28 at Iraqi police base
Looks like AQI is making a concerted effort to retake/hold some kind of base in Baquba. This is just one of a series of actions in the past few days in Diyala - but I haven't seen anything of substance anywhere else.
BAGHDAD (Reuters) - A suicide bomber on a bicycle killed 28 Iraqi policemen doing their morning exercises at their base north of Baghdad on Monday, police said, in one of the deadliest strikes on security forces in months.

The bomber entered the base in the volatile Diyala province and blew himself up amidst members of a rapid reaction force, said Major-General Ghanim al-Quraishi, the Diyala police chief.
How did he get access? I smell a rat ...
A shopkeeper whose store is close to the base told Reuters he had seen a man riding a bicycle slip through a gap in the concrete wall surrounding the compound and heard a huge blast seconds later that threw a cloud of dust into the air. "I saw many bodies covered in blood. Some were dying, some had arms and legs blown off," said store-owner Ali Shahine.

At least 20 people were wounded in the attack, including a woman and a child, police said.

No group claimed immediate responsibility for the Baquba bombing, but it bore the hallmarks of al Qaeda, which has often used suicide bombers in attacks on Iraqi security forces to devastating effect.

The base is in the city of Baquba, capital of Diyala province, a religiously and ethnically mixed region where al Qaeda and other Sunni Arab insurgent groups as well as Shi'ite Muslim militias operate.
Posted by: Glenmore || 10/29/2007 07:28 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency

#1  A shopkeeper whose store is close to the base told Reuters he had seen a man riding a bicycle slip through a gap in the concrete wall surrounding the compound and heard a huge blast seconds later that threw a cloud of dust into the air.

As usual, the inshallah (if Allah wills it) types among the exercising cops decided that perimeter security wasn't a problem. They all paid the price for their inattention to detail.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 10/29/2007 13:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Actually, I should have added that the inshallah types are known here as buck passers, as in "it's somebody else's problem" - even when it's a problem with life-threatening possibilities.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 10/29/2007 13:22 Comments || Top||


Car bomb kills 8, wounds 26 in Kirkuk
A car bomb Sunday ripped through a Kirkuk bus terminal that serves travelers to Iraq's Kurdish region, killing eight people and wounding 26, according to a police spokesman.

Police Brig. Gen. Sarhat Qadir said the explosion caused a huge fire and set 15 cars ablaze. The terminal is located in a mainly Kurdish area of Kirkuk, an oil rich city which Iraq's Kurds want to annex to their self-rule region in the north of the country. Gunmen meanwhile, sprayed a car carrying five bodyguards of the head of local Sunni Endowments department in the turbulent city of Basra, killing one of them and injuring the rest, police said.
Posted by: Fred || 10/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency


Baghdad: Gunmen kidnap 10 anti-al-Qaida tribal leaders
Ten Sunni and Shi'ite tribal leaders who had joined forces against al-Qaida in Iraq were abducted by gunmen as they were traveling home to Diyala province after a meeting with a government official in Baghdad, police and a relative said.

The gunmen ambushed the two cars carrying the 10 men in Baghdad's predominantly Shi'ite neighborhood of Shaab at about 3:30 p.m., police officials said. The sheiks - seven Sunnis and three Shi'ites - were on their way back to Diyala province after attending a conference with the Shi'ite-dominated government's adviser for tribal affairs to discuss coordinating efforts against al-Qaida in Iraq.
Posted by: Fred || 10/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda in Iraq

#1  Baghdad: Gunmen kidnap 10 anti-al-Qaida tribal leaders

sucks to be them...

I think we're at a point, or the Iraqis are at a point that these actions will not be able to stop the progress in Iraq.

IOW it's a bad thing to lose 6 that have already switched over to the right side BUT the 2nd in commands of those tribes ima hoping will even be more motivated now to kill al-Qaeda.

At least that's what ima inferring from talking, hearing, watching and reading our Vets, CCs, NCOs and enlisted.
Posted by: Red Dawg || 10/29/2007 0:28 Comments || Top||

#2  Blood feud. Blood feud.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/29/2007 7:07 Comments || Top||

#3  Al Qaeda is making a big mistake in turning against the locals. This will assure a general anti-al Qaeda feeling among all Iraqis and cause problems for those already in custody. This helps the coalition forces in a major way.
Posted by: wxjames || 10/29/2007 7:29 Comments || Top||

#4  Countdown to our "patriotic" left claiming this is a false flag operation carried out by Blackwater to trigger reprisals against the AQ Minutemen.
Posted by: Excalibur || 10/29/2007 8:48 Comments || Top||

#5  The local news rag reported the kidnappings were carried out by the Maqtada al-Sadr's Mahdi Army. When I read this I thought this sounded more like an AQ operation although anything is possible in the Byzantine politics of this region.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/29/2007 12:35 Comments || Top||

#6  According to Bill Roggio 8 of them have already been rescued with 4 of the kidnappers killed. Also CFI are naming names of Sadr's bigs who were behind it. All good.
Posted by: remoteman || 10/29/2007 15:09 Comments || Top||

#7  If Sadr had a hand in it, or at least his militia, would that be an excuse to turn on him now that we've pounded Al-Qaida into the ground there? And I mean REALLY turn on him. As in kill him, or at least wipe out his militia for the most part.
Posted by: Charles || 10/29/2007 16:58 Comments || Top||

#8  #6 According to Bill Roggio 8 of them have already been rescued with 4 of the kidnappers killed. Also CFI are naming names of Sadr's bigs who were behind it. All good.
Posted by: remoteman 2007-10-29 15:09


UPDATE:

Also Monday, the Iraqi army freed eight of 11 abducted Iraqi tribal sheiks in a raid, a Diyala tribal leader who is a member of the reconciliation committee in the province said.

All of the freed sheiks were Shiite, from the Anbakiya tribe, the tribal leader said.

He also said the body of one of the abducted Sunni sheikhs, who is of the al-Azza tribe, was later found near where the abductions took place.

There was no immediate information regarding the two remaining sheikhs, who are also Sunni.

An Interior Ministry official had originally told CNN that 10 tribal sheikhs -- seven Sunni and three Shiite -- had been kidnapped.

Iraqi Defense Ministry spokesman Mohammed al-Askari told CNN that four kidnappers were killed in the raid, which took place in Baghdad's Rusafa district on the Tigris River.

The U.S. military has blamed a former Mehdi Army militia brigade commander for the sheikhs' abductions

Earlier Monday, the U.S. military blamed the kidnappings on former Mehdi Army militia brigade commander Arkan Hasnawi.

The military said Hasnawi "has joined forces with Iranian-supported special groups that are rejecting [Mehdi Army leader] Muqtada al-Sadr's direction to embrace fellow Iraqis."

MOOKIE

Al-Sadr, an Iraqi Shiite cleric who controls the Mehdi Army, has called on the militia to obey a cease-fire following deadly firefights in August with rival Shiite militias.

Iran has denied that Iranian agents are helping train and equip militants in Iraq.

The sheiks were kidnapped while returning home to Baquba following meetings in Baghdad with Iraqi government officials, an Interior Minister official said. The meetings concerned the reconciliation process in the nation.

Update link, scroll down the article a bit..
Posted by: Red Dawg || 10/29/2007 18:02 Comments || Top||


Terrorist cell arrested in Suleimaniyah
A terrorist cell was arrested in Sulaimaniya, Iraqi security sources said. A statement from the security body in Sulaimaniya city said a unit of its forces was able to arrest five members of Al-Mujahideen army brigades. The five detainee were responsible for numerous terrorist operations in Mosul, the statement said.
Posted by: Seafarious || 10/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency


Governor of Mosul escapes assassination
Governor of Mosul Duraid Kashmolah escaped an assassination attempt when a bomb exploded near his convoy in the city of Mosul, located in northern Iraq, said a security source on Saturday. The explosion occurred at a crossroads east of Mosul, indicated the source, saying that no one was harmed and no damages were reported on the convoy.

Posted by: Seafarious || 10/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: Iraqi Insurgency

#1  The "awakening" meets the "deadening". Islam at its finest.
Posted by: Zenster || 10/29/2007 10:16 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Israel anounces closure of Sufa Crossing to Gaza Strip
Israel on Sunday decided to officially close Sufa Crossing from the Gaza Strip, defense officials announced. The move means that the only working crossing between Israel and the Strip will be Kerem Shalom. So far, if Kerem Shalom was fired upon, Israel would use Sufa. But now, if Hamas attacks the crossing, they will be sealing off the strip due to the lack of an alternative.
Posted by: Fred || 10/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  if Hamas attacks the crossing, they will be sealing off the strip

Won't stop them
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/29/2007 7:08 Comments || Top||

#2  The Sufa crossing in near the Kerem Shalom crossing but the former is mostly for freight.

Keeping only one crossing open makes it harder for smuggling.
Posted by: mhw || 10/29/2007 9:24 Comments || Top||


IDF troops nab three Iraqi nationals trying to infiltrate into Israel
IDF troops nabbed three Iraqi nationals who tried infiltrating into Israel over the weekend. Sources in the IDF Southern Command said it was the first time that Iraqi nationals were caught trying to enter Israel via its southern border with Egypt. Over the past year, some 3,000 foreign nationals - mostly from Sudan, Africa and eastern Europe - were caught by the security forces trying to cross illegally into Israel through its border with Egypt.
Posted by: Fred || 10/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Global Jihad


Southeast Asia
14 terrorists rounded up in southern Thailand
About 100 police and soldiers raided a village in Thailand's southern border province of Narathiwat Monday morning and rounded up 14 suspected insurgents.

The raid at Kubersawor village in Muang district was launched at 5:30 a.m. (2230 GMT) and lasted over 2 hours, according to the Thai News Agency. Two of the suspects are believed to be leaders. They are Kuding Uma, 26 and Sahabuding Mad, 28. The police and soldiers also seized four guns and caches of ammunition and explosives during the raid.
Posted by: ryuge || 10/29/2007 07:31 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: Thai Insurgency

#1  This is the first news I've ever seen of Thais doing something. Even with their new initiatives, I saw no results.
Posted by: Mad Eye Thrineger4793 || 10/29/2007 9:39 Comments || Top||


Good morning.
Posted by: Fred || 10/29/2007 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Just wanted to say that your posters Frank G and Red Dawg are the ones who lost credibility on this string with the stupid strawmen they posted in response to my comments. I did not equate the AN-2 with a modern weapon of war, I simply responded to some moronically ill-informed ridicule from these flakes.

Frank asked Gee "Lord Piltdown". perhaps you'd be willing to pilot or paricipate in this flying coffin?

Why would my unwillingness to fly this plane into denied airspace be relevant, Frank? Does a threat consist only of methodology that we are personally willing to use ourselves? We can quit worrying about suicide bombers in that case.

As for spinning it into an "active war-piece," neither of you responded to my points against your mockery. Why is this so much more vulnerable than a chopper, which you presumably still regard as an "active war-piece?"

By the way, Dawg, I didn't claim that these equalled the C-130 and C-27, I just pointed out that the AN-2s are probably not so much more vulnerable as to be useless in the relevant scenario.
You deny this but you can't seem to cite any reasons. Is 300 knots really better than 100 in the face of "modern AAA systems" (not a term an informed observer would use, btw)? Pulse-doppler radar doesn't see it that way, if it can see at all against masking terrain (lots of hills in Korea).
Citing ceiling as an advantage in the postulated type of operation is proof positive that you have no idea how this works. As for counter-measures, most of these are directed at systems that are marginal in this environment anyway.

If your wheels are in the weeds and you're masked by terrain, it would be foolish to turn on a radar jammer and mark your location.
IRCM is a different story but it needn't be so good if you have 1/20th the IR signature of a more modern aircraft.

Neither of you responded with anything like facts or informed analysis, you just ramped up your original stupid comments and added some insults in the process.

I think it's because that's all you can do. I suggest you stay with something you are qualified to judge, like Kimmie's hairstyle.
Posted by: Lord Piltdown || 10/29/2007 1:19 Comments || Top||

#2  ROLF Mr Piltdown,

Ima gonna look at Sabrinas Cantilevered Chest.. you can re-read this!
Posted by: Red Dawg || 10/29/2007 1:28 Comments || Top||

#3  I'll bet I could probably hang from those. Definitely if allowed to use my hands. :-0
Posted by: gorb || 10/29/2007 1:39 Comments || Top||

#4  Neither of you responded with anything like facts or informed analysis, you just ramped up your original stupid comments and added some insults in the process.

Heaven forefend that such a thing has ever before happened at this site.
Posted by: Henry M. Robert || 10/29/2007 2:59 Comments || Top||

#5  That's how it happens, sometimes, often enough for reasons completely unrelated to the actual conversation. Let it go, dear Lord Piltdown, please. We read your worth from the entirety of your posts, not someone's responses in a single thread. And certainly I found the entire conversation very educational. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/29/2007 5:51 Comments || Top||

#6  boy, that thread was so important to me that I forgot about it and had to go back and reread it, just to see what you were whining about
Posted by: Frank G || 10/29/2007 6:47 Comments || Top||

#7  Excuse me, Sabrina and I are busy, can you taks your conversation...BOING...never mind.
Posted by: wxjames || 10/29/2007 7:24 Comments || Top||

#8  Liberty. Equality. Fecundity.
Posted by: Excalibur || 10/29/2007 8:47 Comments || Top||

#9  I must be missing some of the nuances in the discussion of Sabrina. Sabrina's attire does have some note worthy engineering.
Posted by: JohnQC || 10/29/2007 12:28 Comments || Top||

#10  I think these two Sabrina's are the same. I do have some others...


Posted by: 3dc || 10/29/2007 12:53 Comments || Top||

#11  Yikes, 3dc! I wasn't ready for that and nearly lost my eyeballs. Be a little more careful next time.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 10/29/2007 14:01 Comments || Top||

#12  BAD, BAD, BAD DAWG! Bad, bad Frank! AN-tooooz are cool. Got one. Of course it's a simulated one but what the heck. Set up right it stalls at about 30 kts. You can take it off in half the length of the Nimitz. :> I wonder if there's a float-plane version.
Posted by: Thomas Woof || 10/29/2007 16:51 Comments || Top||

#13  The word, jutting comes to mind!
Posted by: Natural Law || 10/29/2007 19:16 Comments || Top||

#14  I wonder if there's a float-plane version.

Yes. And Sabrina has the pontoons.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 10/29/2007 19:18 Comments || Top||



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