KANDAHAR: Afghan officials scrambled on Thursday to establish whether Taliban supremo Mullah Akhtar Mansour was still alive, after sources said he was “critically” wounded in a gunfight following a bitter argument with commanders in the militant group.
It remains unclear whether Mansour survived the gunfight, which has threatened to derail a renewed regional push to jumpstart peace talks with the Taliban.
The Taliban officially rejected as “absolutely baseless” the reports of the gunfight, which officials and militant sources said was triggered by an altercation at a gathering that cascaded out of control.
“We are trying to establish whether Mansour is dead or alive,” said Sultan Faizi, the spokesman for the Afghan first vice president.
“His situation is critical,” he said, citing credible information.
A senior Pakistani intelligence official said that Mansour had been “very seriously injured” in what he described as a “heavy exchange of fire” at a gathering of militant commanders near Quetta.
An Afghan intelligence official and multiple militant sources close to Mansour’s group confirmed the account to AFP, adding that the gunfight left at least four Taliban members dead and several others wounded.
There was, however, conflicting information on the location of the confrontation, with some sources claiming that it took place near Kandahar, the spiritual birthplace of the Taliban.
But they all agreed that the meeting was at the home of Abdullah Sarhadi, a commander in Mansour’s group and a former Guantanamo Bay detainee.
“There were differences on some points which later turned into harsh words, then Sarhadi opened fire and the others returned fire,” a Taliban source said. It was unclear what the argument was about.
Mansour is reported to be under growing pressure to restart peace talks with Afghan authorities, a contentious issue that has prompted much rancour within hard-line insurgent ranks.
“The reports are still sketchy, but the sheer volume of rumours suggesting that something has happened to Mansour will pressure the Taliban to offer proof that he’s alive,” a Western official in Kabul said.
“Simply posting denials on their website won’t be considered credible enough, especially after Mullah Omar’s death was concealed for years.”
A Taliban commander in the southern province of Helmand said the group would soon release an audio and video message from Mansour.
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Dead or alive, it still coems down as to whether the ex-MO led Afghan Taliban [andor Pak Taliban?]will drop its MO-suppported isolationist stance and begin engaging in Regional + International TerrOps ala the ISIS + AL Nusra.
[Tolo News] Finland is planning to keep troops in the NATO ...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. A cautionary tale of cost-benefit analysis.... -led military training scheme in Afghanistan until the end of 2016, Finnish Foreign Minister Timo Soini said on Tuesday.
Soini told the newspaper Helsingin Sanomat that Finland has now received a request from La Belle France for assistance.
There are currently 40 Finnish soldiers in Afghanistan. Soini presumed the number would remain the same and most of them will remain in Mazar-e-Sharif in northern Balkh province, he said.
Soini attended a NATO ministerial meeting on Tuesday that dealt with the extension of the current NATO Resolute Support operation.
This come after NATO and its allies have reaffirmed their commitment to work on securing new pledges to fund Afghan cops through to 2020.
Speaking at the Foreign Ministers meeting in Brussels on Tuesday, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said their current commitment was until 2017.
The final decision about continuing of NATO military and financial help to Afghanistan will be finalized in NATO members' summit in Poland in July next year.
"We will also launch work to ensure we can finance the Afghan cops from 2018 to 2020. Because as you know we made a pledge back at our summit in reliably Democrat Chicago, aka The Windy City or Mobtown ... home of Al Capone, a succession of Daleys, Barak Obama, and Rahm Emmanuel,... several years ago to finance Afghan National Security Forces but that pledge ends in 2017 so we have to make a new decision to continue to finance the Afghan National Security Forces also after 2017. And we will start to address that at our Foreign Ministerial meeting and then hopefully make the final decision at our summit in July next year," he said.
Stoltenberg said NATO wants to keep 12,000 troops up to the end of 2016.
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[Tolo News] An in-depth look into the Taliban post-Mullar Omar shows how months after the announcement of the death of the group's leader, tension within the Taliban's hierarchy remains.
In fact, since the July announcement of his death two years earlier, the Taliban has split into two groups -- one in support of Mullah Akhtar Mohammad Mansour, who was appointed as Mullah Omar ... a minor Pashtun commander in the war against the Soviets who made good as leader of the Taliban. As ruler of Afghanistan, he took the title Leader of the Faithful. The imposition of Pashtunkhwa on the nation institutionalized ignorance and brutality in a country already notable for its own fair share of ignorance and brutality... 's successor, an the second group in support of Mullah Mohammad Rassoul Nowrozi as leader.
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KHARTOUM: Some 27 Sudanese are standing trial in a Khartoum court accused of apostasy, risking the death penalty if they are convicted, their lawyer told AFP on Thursday.
The men are accused of taking the Holy Qur'an as the sole source of religious legitimacy and rejecting other Islamic texts.
“The court in Kalakla in south Khartoum has started the trial of 27 defendants brought before it under Article 126 of Sudanese criminal law, apostasy from Islam,” defense lawyer Ahmed Ali Ahmed told AFP.
They are also charged with disturbing the public order, Ahmed said.
Ahmed said investigators told the court that police arrested five of the defendants on Nov. 2 inside a market in the southern Khartoum neighborhood of Mayo “when they were talking to people about their conviction in the belief in the Qur'an and how they don’t recognize” other religious texts.
He said that others were arrested the next day for the same reasons.
The defendants are accused rejecting the authority of the Sunnah, traditions attributed to Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)
The trial of the 27 started last Sunday and went through four sessions during which the judge heard the investigators’ case against the men before it adjourned on Wednesday. It resumes on Dec. 8.
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"Apostate old man of Khartoum,
Who lies in the Messenger's Tomb?"
"Sure, him, and Costello,
And that Abbott fellow..."
Which doomed that old man of Khartoum.
The Yemeni army spokesman General Sharaf Loqman told Al-Manar website that the preliminary operations have ended and that the strategic escalation stage has started.
"We are ready to escalate operations, and the leadership will settle all the details," the Yemeni officer said.
"The Yemeni army and popular committees have surrounded the two Saudi cities of Jizan and Najran and the political leadership will take the decision of invading them," he added.
Luqman noted that the Yemeni army and popular committees are advancing in the various provinces and confronting the Saudi-led terrorists, adding that all the attempts to reach local ceasefire agreements are rejected because the aim is to expel all the terrorists.
General Luqman pointed out that the Yemeni army and popular committees withdrew from the south to let the locals defend their cities.
"However, Qaeda and ISIL terrorists have controlled the area, especially in Aden and Hadramout," he concluded.
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As of this AM, as per BHARAT RAKSHAK + DEFENCE>pk?FORUMS Morocco has deployed 1500 troops to boost the seemingly floundering Saudi campaign in Yemen, while Turkey has repor deployed a Battalion = 1200 troops to Bashiqa/Ba'ashiqah, Mosul,Iraq for the Turkey-claimed purpose of training Iraqi soldiers.
Turkey is now in Mosul + Qatar.
* FUBAR/SNAFU = MOROCCO + TURKEY HAVE SET UP MIL PREENC WIDIN "US-STYLE/PAR", OWG CO-SUPERPOWER IRAN'S SUPERPOWER OR CO-SUPERPOWER "SPHERE OF INFLUENCE" IN THE ME.
To which Iran must effective respond lest it loses its "Sphere" + quite possibly it newfound "Co-Superpower" status.
THIS WILL NOT END WELL.
* FYI BHARAT RAKSHAK > [Al-Masdar News] OVER 2000 SAUDI MILITARY PERSONNEL KILLED IN YEMEN.
* SAME > ISLAMIC STATE EYES LIBYAN OIL FIELDS AS SIRTE TURNS INTO "RAQQUA" [ISIS Syria HQ] OF LIBYA.
Iraqi PM-Govt - Turkey's action was widout the formal knowledge or consent of Iraq, hence constitutes a wily dastardly grossly unacceptable direct breach of Iraq's sovereignty by Turkey.
[Khaama (Afghanistan)] German Chancellor Angela Merkel ...current chancellor of Germany. She was educated in East Germany when is was still run by commies, but in 1989 got involved with the growing democracy movement when the Berlin Wall fell. Merkel is sometimes referred to by Germans as Mom... has said that Afghans arriving in her country in pursuit of better economic circumstances would be returned.
...which of course they will accept calmly, like the orderly Germans they desire to be. Precisely like the Jews did in the years leading up to the Holocaust, in fact.
According to Rooters news agency, Merkel says people still living in the areas of insecurity should move to safe zones within their country rather than migrating to Europe.
Merkel has told media that Germany would support the creation of safe zones inside the country, to provide people who "live in areas of insecurity with a zone where security is high."
At a joint news conference with President Mohammad Ashraf Ghani ...former chancellor of Kabul University, now president of Afghanistan. Before returning to Afghanistan in 2002 he was a scholar of political science and anthropology. He worked at the World Bank working on international development assistance. As Finance Minister of Afghanistan between July 2002 and December 2004, he led Afghanistan's attempted economic recovery until the Karzais stole all the money. .. in Berlin on Wednesday, Merkel said Germany would meet its humanitarian obligations for Afghans who are in serious danger because they worked for foreign forces such as the German army.
"But where refugees come hoping for a better life -- and I know that this hope is big for many -- that is no reason to get asylum status or residency status here," according to Rooters, Merkel said, adding that in such cases people would be deported back home.
Merkel stressed there was false information circulating in Afghanistan about migration to Germany and said the embassy was taking measures to ensure people knew the rumors were not true.
President Ghani said people should understand that streets of Germany are not paved with gold.
"We need to ... make sure that everybody understands the streets are not paved with gold," he said.
This comes as around 150,000 Afghans have left Afghanistan to Europe this year with a high volume of them to Germany.
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Russian President Vladimir Putin has castigated Turkey's leaders, warning that they will regret shooting down a Russian Su-24 bomber in Syria. In a state of the nation speech, broadcast live on Russian television, he said that "if anyone thinks Russia's reaction will be limited to trade sanctions, they are deeply mistaken".
"We'll remind them again what they did - they will regret it."
Russia's fight against "terrorists" came top in his speech to parliament. At the start he praised the widows of the two Russian servicemen killed in the Su-24 incident in Syria. The widows were sitting in the Kremlin audience for his speech.
There was also a minute's silence for Russian victims of terrorism, including the 224 who died when a bomb blew up a Russian airliner over Egypt's Sinai desert on 31 October.
In his speech Mr Putin again accused the Turkish government of sheltering and covertly supporting IS militants. Turkey insists that its F-16 fighters shot down the Su-24 because the bomber had trespassed into its airspace.
Mr Putin scorned them, saying "probably Allah alone knows why they did it.
"And evidently Allah decided to punish the ruling clique in Turkey, by depriving it of any reason or logic."
Ouch.
He said he was making a clear distinction between the Turkish leadership and Russia's "many longstanding and reliable friends in Turkey".
Hint hint, longstanding and reliable friends in Turkey, hint hint, you could stage a coup and Vlad would reward you, hint hint...
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Hint hint, longstanding and reliable friends in Turkey
An alliance between Russians & Kemalists (Turkish Nationalists)---mind boggles.
Lest we fergit, WE'RE-SUPPOSED-TO-BE-ISLAM'S FIRST-NUCLEAR-SUPERPOWER/GREATPOWER-NOT-SHIA-IRAN PAKISTAN = "NEO-OTTOMAN" TURKEY = DESIRES TO OUTWARDLY EXPAND + HAVE ITS OWN SOLE "SPHERE OF INFLUENCE" LIKE "US-STYLE", "US-PAR", OWG CO-SUPERPOWERS RUSSIA, CHINA, + IRAN, ETC.
Two Muslim or Islamic "Great Power" or "Superpower" wannabes all but isolated = geographically blocked or surrounded by their many Muslim + Non-Muslim neighbors.
* FYI YAHOO NEWS, BREAKINGNEWS > THAILAND WARNED BY MOSCOW THAT ISLAMIC STATE MILITANTS "ENTERED" THE KINGDOM WID GOAL TO ATTACK RUSSIAN TOURISTS.
And Russian strategic interests.
Iff true, looks like the ISIS/ISIL + aligned hard Boyz may intend to attack-n-destabilize or overwhelm INDIA'S + CHINA'S SMALLER. MORE SECURITY-VULNERABLE NEIGHBORS BEFORE ATTACKING THE BIG CHEEZES HEAD-ON???
Fuc& you, you closet-Muslim moron. And the ignorant fraudulent voter base horse you rode in on, too. At this point you've been basically stopped from ruining the country any further, and we can just enjoy the train wreck that will unfold over the coming year. Hopefully Trump will ask for Churchill's bust back when he takes over your office and cancels all your executive orders. Your legacy will be cowardice, an Obamaphone, awkward self-important oratory even with a teleprompter as your permanently pot-addled brain stumbles through your mine-laden battered-wife logic that nobody else seems to understand (except the sycophants you love to gather around you), the long "recession", kissing the feet of third-world leaders (who best you at every turn), not being able to fill a high-school auditorium at an appearance, golfing while the world burns, and liberals checking themselves into mental hospitals in droves. Anyone who knows how to flip a coin could have done better than you. And so could have those who don't know how to flip a coin. It's going to be interesting to see how your retirement goes.
President Obama told reporters today that officials still do not know the motives of the San Bernardino shooters, but they could be "terrorist related."
"At this stage, we do not yet know why this terrible event occurred," Obama said of the Wednesday rampage that left 14 people dead. "We do know that the two individuals who were killed were equipped with weapons and appeared to have access to additional weaponry in their homes. But we don't know why they did it."
Obama added, "It is possible that this was terrorist-related but we don't know. And it's also possible that this was workplace related."
He has been receiving regular updates on the situation in San Bernardino, California, from his Homeland Security adviser, Lisa Monaco. He delivered his remarks to press in the Oval Office alongside members of his national security team.
Obama said the FBI has taken over the investigation in San Bernardino, telling reporters Attorney General Loretta Lynch would be holding a news conference with developments later in the day.
"We don't know at this point the extent of their plans; we do not know their motivations," Obama said.
Echoing his statements in an interview with CBS following the shooting Wednesday, Obama also wrestled today with the issue of Americans having easy access to weapons they can use to inflict mass casualties.
"We're going to have to, I think, search ourselves as a society to make sure that we can take basic steps that would make it make it harder, not impossible, but harder to individuals to get access to weapons," Obama said. "We all have a part to play. And I do think that as the investigation moves forward it's going to be important for all of us, including our legislatures, to see what we can do to ensure that when individuals decide that they want to do somebody harm, we'll make it a little harder for them to do it."
Using this to push for his Gun Control which obviously doesn't work. No Doubt Loretta will have her say and blame it on anything else but what it is (Islam). Lets see how long she talks about terrorism and how long about how we should avoid 'Islamophobia'.
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The regime's focus immediately defaulted to firearms, an obvious diversion from terrorism. The firearms were said to have been 'purchased legally.' No mention of...pipe bombs or the explosives used. At least one pipe bomb failed to ignite. Was the explosive inert ?
I generally look for that which is not said or mentioned.
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When he was watching ESPN and they said, "The Marlins will be back in Miami next Spring." nobody had the guts to tell him they were talking baseball.
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gorb - I am speechless - you somehow articulated every thought in my dispirited brain.
The feckless oaf that the lame-stream-media and 66 million progressive voters elevated into the White House is - in fact - hell-bent into fundamentally transforming America into a failed state,
I weep for the America in which I grew up, on the outskirts of Cincinnati. May it ever have some inkling of common sense.
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Gorb, your third paragraph has hit on his probable course. He will most likely decided that this is just workplace violence in a country with too many guns.
Lone Ranger, I fully agree with you. However if you look at all countries run by Muslims, they are all sh#tholes. It is a known fact that intelligence is a product of the parents genes. Muslims have been marrying their first cousins and siblings for 1400 years and the Danish studies indicate on the average Muslims have a grossly sub normal IQ (78) along with genetic mental defects at over 25 times the white European population. Many of the mental defects common in the Muslim population are expressed in violence to family and non Muslims.They are careful not to be violent to people in their Muslim community because they know the rest of the Muslim community is as screwed up and violent as they are. Everyone could relate to the interbred mutants in the movie "Deliverance" and they at worst could have been interbred for 200 years. Multiply that by 7 and you have the average Muslim. I believe the Danish Mental data would indicate Muslims should not be allowed to own firearms or knives unless a thorough mental assessment indicated they mentally stable. I'm sure you saw what the chimp did as soon as he was handed a loaded AK-47.
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According to CNN, Mrs. Farook declared allegiance to ISIS on Facebook the day of the attack, thus proving that it is, indeed, terrorism. His older brother, the veteran, must be furious.
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To affirm what #13 posted, save for CNN AM repor that she did it sometime DURING the attack andor police pursuit.
The Couple also repor left their 6-month old baby girl wid its Grandma - FBI presently investigating what role or influence, iff any, the women played in this attack vee the male suspects.
ISIS Boyz in the ME in a celebratory mood over this event.
* CNN AM = SAN BERNARDINO MASS SHOOTING NOW LABELED OR DESCRIBED AS THE WORST TERROR EVENT IN THE US SINCE 9-11.
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Dont put pot down. He is another type of stupid.
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OOOOPPPSS, my bad, forgot to say that CNN is also repor there is discordance between the FBI + Obama WH as the Bammer is seemingly interested in downplaying this event as a Non-Terror or Non-ISIS-linked event???
THE FBI SAYS IT IS TERROR, THE BAMMER SAYS IT ISN'T TERROR.
BOTH GOP-RIGHT + MANY DEMS are demanding that POTUS Obama call it de facto a "terror" or "domestic terror" event, assert proper national leadership instead of PCorrect "safe" politics, + retaliate = "do something" agz the ISIS + aligned.
LEST WE FERGIT, BESIDES THIS SAN BERNARDINO EVENT, THE US IS ALSO FACING A [simultan = parallel?]]POTEN MILITARY CONFRONTATION WID CHINA IN THE SOUTH + EAST CHINA SEAS.
The Muslim husband and wife behind the mass shooting in San Bernardino began erasing their digital footprint a day in advance of the deadly attack, deleting email accounts, disposing of hard drives and smashing their cellphones, according to law enforcement investigators who are treating the probe as a counterterrorism case.
Intelligence sources said there is still no explicit evidence linking the two to known terrorists on U.S. or foreign watch lists and that the couple was not on the FBI's radar before Wednesday's deadly shooting rampage.
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Intelligence sources said there is still no explicit evidence linking the two to known terrorists on U.S. or foreign watch lists and that the couple was not on the FBI's radar before Wednesday's deadly shooting rampage.
And no 'credible threats', either? Were there any 'credible threats' the day before the Paris slaughter? How about 09/10/01? No credible threat means they don't have a [insert your own *&%$#@ expletive here] clue.
But these are the guys who are going to screen refugees for us? They let the crazy wife in, and she wasn't even from Syria.
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Doesn't this prove that it wasn't workplace violence (beyond the fact they had the rounds, pipe bombs, gopros, and such ready to go). They popped off early, its the only way to account for ISIS cheerleading but not taking credit.
I don't know San Bernadino and potential targets in that area and so far nobody has gone so far as to speculate.
My gut instinct suggests that the Star Wars opening weekend would be a juicy target filled with people. If you have one go in the front door shooting and throwing pipe bombs you could have another shooting at people existing a cinema you'd have a high count.
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Some of the folks who know this stuff way better than I do suggest that the Community Center party was a 'secondary' or tertiary target and that the 'primary' wasn't going to work out for some reason.
RJ's comment that they 'popped off early' might be close to the truth too, but it may have been that something happened (personnel issues?; more security at the 'primary' than they figured?) that may have caused them to go into fallback mode.
Curious to know if there was a larger venue going on that day within 10-15 miles of San Bernardino or scheduled within a day or two after Wednesday. The trend by other terrorists seems to be the destruction of 'evidence' between 12 and 36 hours prior to the actual attack.
It wouldn't have been sooner due to the 'digital erase' timeline.
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Every person going to the theater should be armed to the teeth.
Screw the police, they won't help us.
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President Obama has a new weapon in the fight against terror: a longtime security adviser he has promoted to be his new ISIS czar.
National Security Adviser Susan Rice refers to Rob Malley as one of her "most trusted advisers" and "one of our country's most respected experts on the Middle East." He helped broker the historic Iran nuclear deal and, years before that, helped President Clinton try to bridge the divide between Israelis and Palestinians.
While Malley has almost two decades of experience in national security, he has seen his share of controversies. Malley's career in the White House started under the Clinton administration, first as executive assistant to the national security adviser in 1996 and then as Special Assistant to the President for Arab-Israeli Affairs.
He ran into his first firestorm in 2001 when he co-wrote an article about a Camp David summit on Israeli-Palestinian negotiations, which had ended in failure the year prior. In the article, Malley said it was unfair to blame only Palestinian leader Yasir Arafat — who most observers argued was the reason the talks fell apart — and pushed for "a more nuanced and realistic" analysis showing Israeli leader Ehud Barak was partially responsible, too.
His next run-in with critics came during a casual return to politics in 2008, when he was an informal foreign policy adviser for Obama's presidential campaign. He was forced to sever ties with the campaign when news outlets reported he had met with members of Hamas, the Palestinian militant group that the State Department classifies as a terrorist organization. Malley acknowledged the meetings, saying they were necessary for his work with his non-profit, which focuses on conflict resolution.
"I have never hidden the fact that I had meetings with Hamas," Malley wrote in a letter to The New York Times in May 2008 in in his defense. "I do this as part of my job as Middle East program director at the International Crisis Group."
Still, he decided to stop working with the Obama campaign "to avoid any misperception — misrepresentation being the more accurate word — about the candidate's position regarding the Islamist movement," he said.
Joost Hiltermann, Malley's successor as Middle East and North Africa program director at the International Crisis Group, has known Malley for 20 years. He brushed off the controversies.
"A person in his position is going to draw fire from one side or the other," he added. "Working on the Middle East in particular is going to make some people upset and other people happy, maybe more than any other place."
Still, Malley's past has haunted him. When he returned to the White House last year as a senior director at the National Security Council, administration officials responded to mentions of his history by highlighting the strong relationships Malley has throughout the Middle East, including with members of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's government.
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He helped broker the historic Iran nuclear deal and, years before that, helped President Clinton try to bridge the divide between Israelis and Palestinians.
So he's arranged a disaster and a waste of time and now needs a promotion.
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Yeah, well, they still have the Russians to worry about.
[REDLANDSDAILYFACTS] Some members of Redlands Townhall and the Redlands Tea Party Patriots have called on city officials to keep Syrian and African refugees from resettling here.
They asked City Council members Tuesday what their plan will be if the city is asked to resettle some of the 85,000 refugees expected to come to the United States in 2016.
"We are researching the issue and preparing to provide information to the City Council in the near future," said city front man Carl Baker in an email.
As many as 9 million people have been displaced as a result of the civil war in Syria. More than 4 million people have fled the country, according to the United Nations ...a formerly good idea gone bad... Secretary of State John F. I was in Vietnam, you know Kerry Former Senator-for-Life from Massachussetts, self-defined war hero, speaker of French, owner of a lucky hat, conqueror of Cambodia, and current Secretary of State... said last month that the United States will accept 85,000 refugees, up from 70,000, from around the world in 2016 and that the number would rise to 100,000 in 2017.
Many of the refugees would be Syrian and others would be from strife-torn areas of Africa.
"Where will they be housed? How will their expenses be paid and by whom? And what will be done to ensure the safety of our community? Our biggest concern is the safety of our family, our children and our grandchildren," Victoria Hargrave of Redlands Townhall said the council on Tuesday.
"The B.O. regime would like to bring in 85,000 Syrian refugees into our country in the calendar year that just started on Oct. 1 and they have admitted that they have no database or source of information with which to vet these refugees," she said. "There are primarily Sunni Muslims. Al-Qaeda are Sunni Muslims whose culture and ideology are completely contrary to our Constitution."
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[NEWSBUSTERS.ORG] Just when the liberal media's extrapolations concerning the motives of the San Bernardino gunman couldn't grow any more jaw-dropping, an expert appearing during the 11:00 p.m. Eastern hour of CNN Tonight predicted late Wednesday that the office holiday party where the shooting occurred "may have been offensive" to the Muslim gunman.
Criminologist Casey Jordan was called on by host Don Lemon and began by suggesting that the "[d]isgruntled employee" appeared to "have Arabic or Middle Eastern names, but the key is that from the beginning everything that was reported about him, going into this conference room where there was a holiday party which may have been offensive to him."
Jordan further opined that "the bottomline is the motivation always appeared to be intrinsic not, extrinsic" and "he was prepared for this" because "it was almost like he was looking for an excuse to go get the guns, get the female getaway driver -- you know, put on his fatigues and let it look like terrorism."
She agreed with other guests in analyzing the situation as "a mash up" or "amalgamation" of "terrorism and disgruntled employee" and reaffirmed her belief that "his motive was very intrinsic," "personal," and "about a grudge and it looks like terrorism and he might like that, but it isn't what it's about."
Overall, it's been quite a day of rushing to conclusions on CNN. As this writer wrote earlier, CNN law enforcement analyst Tom Fuentes predicted in the 4:00 p.m. Eastern hour that it was likely carried out by "an anti-government domestic militia group" while fellow law enforcement analyst Harry Houck pointed out in the 7:00 p.m. Eastern hour that those responsible "could be some right-wing group, for all I know." Complete rubbish.
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In fact, it was so offensive that he had start preparing for it months ahead of time.
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I was wondering why, when listening to the reports on this incident, I never once heard the reporters mention the possibility that this might be an act of Islamic terrorists. The fact that there were several adult attackers meant that this would be something new otherwise, so this seemed to be to be the very first explanation that should come to the normal mind.
That it did not do so to the staff at ABC news suggests that they must all be imbeciles or worse.
That idiots in a certain political party should use this incident to argue for citizens to increase their own vulnerability to such outrages by disarming is more than amazing.
What I got from ABC news was endless repeating of no new information given for the sole aim of keeping the audience from turning it off. It even seemed to glorify the terrorists, and make them seem heroic.
Actually the perpetrators should rather be described as what they are: people who have made themselves into subhuman monsters. If we constantly described them as subhumans, perhaps they would be less of an inspiration to imitators.
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Well, the dominate narrative set them free - from thinking. The post modern code word is intersectionality to wit - folks always have multiple motives so take your pick. I mean no one wants to validate the irrational fears of unsophisticates. They might act rashly. QED work place violence or better yet RW militia the same phrase is in 2nd amendment. I am comforted by the expectation that this will amp gun sales enormously.
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The blathering MSM is offensive to me. So, logic says....When they get shot up, they deserved it and shouldn't have provoked it? Tell me dear journalists/producers/directors, if she dresses like a slut, do you accept the defense 'she' provoked rape? Or do you have a different set of 'logic' to for that too?
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If someone at work invited me to a Muslim party, I would just politely decline. I wouldn't go, then get so offended that I would go home, get my wife, my guns, and body armor, then go back to shoot up the place.
But then, that's just me.
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All those infidels &/or apostates in one place were so tempting, he just couldn't restrain himself any more.
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...wasn't until much later that evening during a one minute news break on one of the independent local stations that I heard the name Syed Farook and that told me all I needed to know.
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When you look deeply at mass shootings, one thing is almost always present. Democrats. The shooters are almost all lefties of some stripe and they always go after people in places left vulnerable by their own democrat passed policies. They worship the death of innocents, babies, crime victims, anyone but evil of their own ilk. They want doctors to kill anyone who asks or who can't defend themselves, they refuse to punish criminals who en masse vote for them. They refuse to see that by far, the vast majority of murders in this country are democrats killing democrats. Who do blacks vote for? Who has the most abortions in the country? It's very rare for it to be related to non-democrats in some fashion.
[BREITBART] In the wake of a radical Islamic terror attack in San Bernardino, California, that saw 14 people dead and a dozen others wounded, three Democratic Congressman will show “solidarity” with the American Muslim community by visiting a mosque once led by Anwar al-Awlaki, the deceased chief recruiter for Al Qaeda.
Awlaki is no more, but the mosque where he once served as Imam still stands openly and proudly just outside of Washington, D.C., in the Falls Church neighborhood of Northern Virginia.
Democratic Representatives Rep. Donald Beyer (D-VA), Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), and Rep. Joseph Crowley (D-NY) announced in a letter: “We must show that we will not tolerate Islamophobia ...the irrational fear that Moslems will act the way they usually do... and that those who propagate it do not represent the melting-pot America that we celebrate.”
“We invite you to join in this Friday to stand in solidarity with Dar Al-Hijrah Mosque — the mosque that received the hoax bomb — and with all our American Muslim communities, by attending Friday prayers and joining us for a short press conference against bigotry,” the Democratic House members said.
“Help us show solidarity with the American Muslim community be joining us on Friday,” they asked. "Then we'll all go out and shoot up some infidels!" There's always the suicide bomber option. Do it in style !
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Reference the Dar al-Hijra mosque in Falls Church, Va., it was involved in the creation of the Muslim American Society, also based in Falls Church. After 9/11 MAS was rightly labeled a front for the Muslim Brotherhood. Founded in 1992 by the Egyptian brother Muhammad Mahdi Akef, Akef would return to Egypt where he was named General Guide of the Muslim Brotherhood in 2004.
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“We must show that we will not tolerate Islamophobia
...the irrational fear that Moslems will act the way they usually do...
and that those who propagate it do not represent the melting-pot America that we celebrate.”
That's right. You'll be fine. Just stop whatever you're doing five times a day, bow down in the direction of Mecca and bang your head on the floor.
[CNN] Syed Rizwan Farook -- who along with his wife, Tashfeen Malik, carried out the San Bernardino shooting massacre -- apparently was radicalized and in touch with people being investigated by the FBI for international terrorism, law enforcement officials said Thursday.
Farook's apparent radicalization contributed to his role in the mass shooting of 14 people Wednesday during a holiday party for the San Bernardino County health department, where Farook worked, sources said.
Still, it wasn't necessarily the only driver behind the carnage, as workplace grievances may have also played a role. President Barack Obama I bowled a 129. It’s like — it was like Special Olympics, or something... hinted as much Thursday when he said that the attackers may have had "mixed motives."
David Bowditch, assistant director in charge of the FBI's Los Angeles office, told news hounds Thursday that Farook had traveled to Pakistain.
And two government officials said no red flags were raised when he'd gone to Soddy Arabia ...a kingdom taking up the bulk of the Arabian peninsula. Its primary economic activity involves exporting oil and soaking Islamic rubes on the annual hajj pilgrimage. The country supports a large number of princes in whatcha might call princely splendor. When the oil runs out the rest of the world is going to kick sand in the Soddy national face... for several weeks in 2013 on the Hajj, the annual pilgrimage to Mecca that Muslims are required to take at least once in their lifetime. It was during this trip that he met Malik, a native of Pakistain who came to the United States in July 2014 on a "fiancée visa" and later became a lawful permanent resident.
Officials had previously said neither Farook and Malik were known to the FBI or on a list of potentially radicalized people. Nor had they had any known interactions with police until Wednesday.
Yet Farook himself had talked by phone and on social media with more than one person being investigated for terrorism, law enforcement officials said.
The communications were "soft connections" in that they weren't frequent, one law enforcement official said. It had been a few months since Farook's last back-and-forth with these people, who officials said were not considered high priority. "...were not considered high priority"...? But in a preceding paragraph Farook and Malik were said to be "unknown" to the Bureau. So where are we? Is this another Boston bomber wait and see what happens scenario, or a Bureau sting or source operation gone terribly wrong? Smells badly already, or is it just my anti-gummit paranoia ?
I can't imagine doing that job. Even if they are right 99.9% of the time, and most of the rest are Faisel the Fizzle Bombers and kids caught at the airport on their way to Syria, there are still Farooks in the data. Perhaps a more proactive approach would clear the underbrush.
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[CNN] Syed Rizwan Farook -- who along with his wife, Tashfeen Malik, carried out the San Bernardino shooting massacre -- apparently was radicalized and in touch with people being investigated by the FBI for international terrorism, law enforcement officials said Thursday.
Interesting bit of info, considering they were "unknown" to the Bureau, their cellies were smashed and their computer HD cannot be found.
[DAILYMAIL.CO.UK] Syed Farook and wife Tashfeen Malik were 'receiving packages' and 'working at strange hours in their garage' according to their neighbors
But neighbors feared reporting them in case it was merely racial profiling
It has since emerged Farook and Malik had 12 pipe bombs in the house
The couple shot 65-70 rounds at Inland Regional Center on Wednesday
They had 12 pipe bombs, tools to assemble bombs, 2,000 9mm rounds, and over 2,500 223 rounds stored at their suburban home, according to the FBI
A teacher reported what he thought looked like a bomb, that turned out to be a clock in a pencil case. The school is being sued for $15 million. Other people who have "seen something and reported something" have been harassed for being racists or Islamophobes. Of course our MSM won't even notice this, let along comment on the hypocrisy of our elites.
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The libtards and terrorists (one and the same to me) have won! Because the neighbors were afraid being called racist.
We are doomed!
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It seems that to fight these monsters,we must become monsters.
Kill them all, let God sort them out.
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actually the strange part about the teacher incident you mention is that the kid had not invented a clock. he had taken a clock and made it into a detonator. the teacher was correct to report him, as i am sure any future legal action will show.
it is only because the president embraced the kid and the press refuses to point out any of the president's idiocies that it refuses to mention this. they (and you) report that the kid invented a clock. no, to repeat, he made a detonator out of a store bought alarm clock.
[THEGATEWAYPUNDIT] “You can come to one clear conclusion with the information they have right now. This is an act of terror. The question was motivation… The question here is not, is it an act of terror. We’re beyond that. When you got two assault weapons, two handguns, you’re in body armor, you got a home that’s boobytrapped. You’ve been practicing to do this… If you can’t come to a conclusion at this point that this was an act of terror, you should find something else to do for a living besides law enforcement. I mean, you’re a moron.”
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[PJMEDIA] The Council on American-Islamic Relations ... the Moslem Brüderbund's American arm ... in Los Angeles pulled together a presser after the name of one of the San Bernardino shooters was identified as Syed Farook. The usual suspects, the usual threadbare arguments...
Farook's brother-in-law, Farhan Khan, was brought to the microphone by CAIR ...designated a terrorist group by the UAE... to make a family statement -- but was shielded from questions about the degree of Farook's faith or other details about the shooter.
Farook, a U.S. citizen, worked as an inspector for the county health department that was holding the Christmas party at the site of the shooting, the Inland Regional Center's auditorium. Khan's sister was married to Farook.
"We unequivocally condemn the horrific act that happened today," said Hussam Auyloush, executive director of the CAIR chapter, at the presser, adding "there is absolutely nothing that can justify" the mass shooting that killed 14 and maimed 17. He mused that the cause could be workplace violence, mental illness or extremism.
Muzammil Siddiqi ... issued a fatwa on Islam Online, stating By participating in a non-Islamic system, one cannot rule by that which Allah has commanded.... We must not forget that Allah's rules have to be established in all lands, and all our efforts should lead to that direction. In 2002, federal authorities raided headquarters of the Fiqh Council. However, no arrests were made, and in fact in July 2005, Siddiqi's Fiqh Council of North America publicly issued a fatwa piously stating Islam's condemnation of terrorism and religious extremism..... , director of the Islamic Society of Orange County, said Southern Caliphornia, an impregnable bastion of the Democratic Party, Muslims stood "in solidarity" with the victims and condemn the attack.
"We have condemned all violence everywhere," Siddiqi said, adding they would like to see law enforcement conduct a full investigation including the "people and motives" behind the attack.
He asked people to "not implicate Islam or Muslims... our faith is against that kind of behavior."
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I was annoyed and offended by these swine getting television before the bodies being sorted and re leased to families. What asshole in management pooped out that fetid stench idea? All lies and taakiya!
How did they get on television so fast and which couch preporter made that decision.
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When I saw this on the TV and read the accounts, it struck me that CAIR seemed to know a great deal about the shooter. CAIR, as you probably recall, was an unindicted co-conspirator in the Holy Land MB trial in Texas.
[The Guardian] Smith & Wesson and Sturm, Ruger & Co jump early Thursday, part of a trend that has seen gun-makers' stocks quadruple S&P 500 returns in past five years.
Stocks of two major gun-makers surged on Thursday morning, the day after a shooting in San Bernardino, California, left 14 people dead.
More than an hour after the stock markets opened, Smith & Wesson stocks were up by 2.62%. Stocks of Sturm, Ruger & Co were up 1.67%.
Gunmakers saw their stock rise even as the overall stock market fell on concerns that the Federal Reserve would raise interests later this month.
Smith & Wesson and Sturm, Ruger & Co saw their stocks surge in October as well after a shooting at Umpqua community college in Oregon left 10 people dead, including the gunman. Investors are betting that the shootings will lead to more gun sales: a CNN Money analysis found that over the past five years these stocks have had four times the returns of the S&P 500 stock market.
[DAWN] QUETTA: A fresh case of the crippling polio ...Poliomyelitis is a disease caused by infection with the poliovirus. Between 1840 and the 1950s, polio was a worldwide epidemic. Since the development of polio vaccines the disease has been largely wiped out in the civilized world. However, since the vaccine is known to make Moslem pee-pees shrink and renders females sterile, bookish, and unsubmissive it is not widely used by the turban and automatic weapons set... disease was confirmed in Quetta Thursday, with health officials claiming the victim's father had refused to get his child vaccinated during anti-polio campaigns.
Dr Syed Saifur Rehman, Coordinator Emergency Operation Center (EOC) Balochistan ...the Pak province bordering Kandahar and Uruzgun provinces in Afghanistan and Sistan Baluchistan in Iran. Its native Baloch propulation is being displaced by Pashtuns and Punjabis and they aren't happy about it... , confirmed that two-year-old Rab Nawaz Noorzai, resident of Noorzai Colony in Quetta's Eastern Bypass area, tested positive for the virus.
"The child was never vaccinated since his father had refused the drops." Officials say the father used to hide the child when vaccination teams visited their house.
"The negligence of parents led to the child being paralysed for life," Rehman said.
"We have been successful in bringing down the number of refusals and the situation has significantly improved compared to the previous year," he added.
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[DAWN] Pakistain's Permanent Representative to United Nations ...the Oyster Bay money pit... (UN) Dr Maleeha Lodhi said on Thursday that Pakistain is ready to host another round of Afghan peace talks, "But we would like to see the anti-Pakistain rhetoric from Kabul ...the capital of Afghanistan. Home to continuous fighting from 1992 to 1996 between the forces of would-be strongman and Pak ISI/Jamaat-e-Islami sock puppet Gulbuddin Hekmayar and the Northern Alliance, a period which won Hek the title Most Evil Man in the World and didn't do much for the reputations of the Northern Alliance guys either.... to cease."
Talking to media, Dr Lodhi however clarified that Afghan government should formally request Pakistain to facilitate the second round of talks between Taliban rebels and government.
She said that for negotiated peace, Pakistain has offered its assistance but Afghan government should make a request to Pakistain to revive and renew the grinding of the peace processor so that an Afghan-owned and Afghan-led grinding of the peace processor can get under way and, "over time we can see a return to peace to people of Afghanistan".
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[DAWN] ISLAMABAD: Federal Investigation Agency (FIA) on Thursday detained 49 deportees aboard a chartered flight from Greece at the Benazir Bhutto ... 11th Prime Minister of Pakistain in two non-consecutive terms from 1988 until 1990 and 1993 until 1996. She was the daughter of Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, founder of the Pakistain People's Party, who was murdered at the instigation of General Ayub Khan. She was murdered in her turn by person or persons unknown while campaigning in late 2007. Suspects include, to note just a few, Baitullah Mehsud, General Pervez Musharraf, the ISI, al-Qaeda in Pakistain, and her husband, Asif Ali Zardari, who shows remarkably little curiosity about who done her in... International Airport on orders of Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar.
The interior ministry, in a statement, said the deportees were sent to Pakistain illegally and in violation of Pakistain's laws.
All 49 individuals including the flight crew were initially not allowed to disembark the plane. Later, 30 individuals were sent back, while 19 individuals were cleared by authorities to stay in Pakistain.
An interior ministry front man told Dawn.com that only 19 people on the plane had been verified on the basis of their documentation. The remaining 30 on board the flight were sent back, he added.
In a statement released earlier in the day, Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar said: "No unregistered deportee will be allowed to come to Pakistain and if that happens they will be sent back."
Does that mean these people have no documents? Is purgatory by airplane the price for discarding one's passport along the road to the asylum office? Angela Merkel has much to asnwer for, not least the CO2 burned produced by those airplanes as they shuttle back and forth with their rejected human cargo.
Despite having agreed on all issues in a recent meeting with the EU migration commissioner, one European country is violating Pak law, which is unacceptable, he added.
"Some countries are not doing enough to stop this unethical, inhumane and illegal process of deporting individuals," said the minister.
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Once upon a time they didn't put unwanted refugees on planes and shuttle them around airborne purgatory - they put them on rusty old ships which sunk, either accidentally or on purpose.
[REUTERS] Syrian and other Arab ground forces must be found to take on Islamic State ...formerly ISIS or ISIL, depending on your preference. Before that al-Qaeda in Iraq, as shaped by Abu Musab Zarqawi. They're very devout, committing every atrocity they can find in the Koran and inventing a few more. They fling Allah around with every other sentence, but to hear the pols talk they're not really Moslems.... , U.S. Secretary of State John F. I was in Vietnam, you know Kerry Former Senator-for-Life from Massachussetts, self-defined war hero, speaker of French, owner of a lucky hat, conqueror of Cambodia, and current Secretary of State... said on Thursday, warning the Lion of Islam group would not be defeated by air strikes alone. That would depend on how big the air strikes were, wouldn't it?
Kerry was speaking hours after Britannia launched bombing raids against Islamic State targets in Syria, joining forces with La Belle France and the United States nearly three weeks after the jihadist group killed 130 people in attacks across Gay Paree.
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Use bigger bombs. And put them where they belong.
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The interesting question is whether the Air Force is doing more bomb runs in training practice in any given day than they're dropping bombs on ISIS on any given day. Training is serious business.
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if Kerry says something, that is prima facie evidence for its opposite. Thus the sensible conclusion from his statement is that appropriate bombing missions can defeat the Daesh.
However the squeamishness about people dying so far displayed by US bombing will never do so.
[WSJ] Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Thursday that Great Britain was obliged to coordinate with Damascus on its airstrikes on Islamic State targets within Syria.
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Dear Sergei:
We will be conducting airstrikes against ISIS in the vicinity of Syria. If you have further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us. V/R MOD
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Wrong question. Right question: do the Brits really want to go there?
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Good question and no, no one wants to go there. My assessment is the recent ISIS flight simulator training [posted yesterday as I remember] has prompted MOD action. Another 9/11 may be in the planning stages and Europe and Moscow are the 25m targets.
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Well, the Brits (and the French) could coordinate the daily IFF codes. Makes the Turks a little less trigger happy not knowing who they're shooting.
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Item. IAF hit Hezbollah (Assad's allies & killing some Assad's soldiers in the process) 3 - 5 times since Russian entry into the theatre. No Russian protests.
Item. French, practically, leveled Raqqa after Paris attacks. No Russian protests.
h/t Instapundit
Defense Secretary Ashton B. Carter said Thursday that he is opening all jobs in combat units to women, a landmark decision that would for the first time allow female service members to join the country's most elite military forces.
Women will now be eligible to join the Navy SEALs, Army Special Forces and other Special Operations Units. It also opens the Marine Corps infantry, a battle-hardened force that many service officials had openly advocated keeping closed to female service members.
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The Russians had women in their tank crews fighting the Germans in WWII. They had to shave their heads and wash with diesel fuel to keep the lice in check. They were that desperate. Somehow I don't believe Carter understands that.
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Carter is just doing what 0 has decreed. I would imagine that the Joint Chiefs are trying to make it through the rest of 0's term on a starvation diet of hope and change.
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Create a few all new all female combat units so that the experiment doesn't disrupt functioning units.
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I, for one, look forward to the next draft composed entirely of women to make up for over two hundred years of disparate impact upon the other gender.
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...When our ruling class has to face defeat in our next war, they can take some comfort in the fact that we will have had the most diverse force to ever lose in combat.
Mike
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[Tolo News] An in-depth look into the Taliban post-Mullar Omar shows how months after the announcement of the death of the group's leader, tension within the Taliban's hierarchy remains.
[BREITBART] In the wake of a radical Islamic terror attack in San Bernardino, California, that saw 14 people dead and a dozen others wounded, three Democratic Congressman will show “solidarity” with the American Muslim community by visiting a mosque once led by Anwar al-Awlaki, the deceased chief recruiter for Al Qaeda.
[REUTERS] Syrian and other Arab ground forces must be found to take on 
