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-Land of the Free
This Week in Guns, February 20th, 2016


By Chris Covert
Rantburg.com

So, the hits keep coming from the Oregon standoff. Cliven Bundy, the man at the center of the Nevada Bundy Ranch standoff two years ago, who was arrested last week for his role in the Oregon standoff, is being charged with nine counts stemming from Bundy Ranch.

It appears that the charges leveled against the Bundys and others in Oregon are intended to be leveraged against other participants once the Bundys and others start talking. Several high profile tactical trainers, as well as top officials with Oathkeepers, are potentially on the hook for the same charges for their role in the standoff, so last week's rumors about charges being prepared against those in Nevada and Oregon may turn out to be true.

The participants at the standoffs at Sugar Pine and in Nevada have their share of mutual recriminations. You may have read my version of events for the Bundy Ranch standoff here, but much more was unreported simply because I could not sort out all the characters involved. One of those whom I was unaware of, Lewis Arthur, has already spoken publicly and has leveled charges of his own against some of the patriots who were there, but that post was later deleted. The Facebook account he used was compromised, but he assured me he will rewrite it.

Oathkeepers was at the center in the Bundy Ranch and practically owned the Sugar Pine Mine incident, yet despite all the control they maintained over participants in Sugar Pine, a number of unfortunate incidents took place, mainly relating to collected money.

This ain't no way to run a political movement.

But the news isn't all bad. You can always convert your peasant army Mosin-Nagant 7.62x54mm(r) rifle into a .500 S&W hog rifle. The bullet drop on that thing must be the stuff of legends.

Loads.

Rantburg's summary for arms and ammunition:

Prices for pistol ammunition were mostly lower, while prices for rifle ammunition were mixed.

Prices for used pistols and for used rifles were mixed.

New Lows:

None

Pistol Ammunition

.45 Caliber, 230 Grain, From Last Week: -.02 Each After Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Goose Island Sales, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel, .24 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: SG Ammo, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Cased, .25 per round (From Last week: Unchanged)

.40 Caliber Smith & Wesson, 180 Grain, From Last Week: -.01 Each After Unchanged (4 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Goose Island Sales, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel cased, .22 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Ammomart, Store brand, Brass, Reloads, .22 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (7 Weeks))

9mm Parabellum, 115 Grain, From Last Week: -.02 Each
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Goode Island Sales, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Cased, .16 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: J&G Sales, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Cased, .16 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks))

.357 Magnum, 158 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Freedom Ammunition, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel cased, .26 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 rounds: J&G Sales, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel cased, .25 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (4Q, 2015))

Rifle Ammunition

.223 Caliber/5.56mm 55 Grain, From Last Week: -.01 Each After Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Goose Island Sales, Tulammo, steel cased, FMJ, .21 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Tulammo, steel cased, FMJ, .21 per round (From Last Week: -.01 Each After Unchanged (3 Weeks)

.308 NATO 150 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (4Q, 2015)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Goo2e Island Sales, Tulammo, steel cased, FMJ, .37 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Vizards Guns and Ammo, Tulammo, steel cased, FMJ, .40 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks))

7.62x39 AK 123 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Munire USA, Wolf WPA, steel case, FMJ, .25 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Ammunition Supply Company, Wolf WPA, steel case, FMJ, .22 per round (From Last Week: -.01 Each)

.22 LR 40 Grain, From Last Week: +.01 Each
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Ammomen, CCI, RNL .08 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 325 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Federal, RNL, .08 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks))

Guns for Private Sale
Rifles

.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $560 Last Week Avg: $610 (-) ($616 (45 Weeks), $476 (21 Weeks))
California (187, 189): Smith & Wesson: $600 ($650 (1Q,2015), $400 (24 Weeks))
Texas (215, 217): Mixed Build: $500 ($700 (50 Weeks), $350 (45 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (102, 103): Ruger AR-556: $600 ($700 (44 Weeks), $300 (32 Weeks))
Virginia (130, 130): DPMS: $600 ($750 (50 Weeks), $480 (10 Weeks))
Florida (299, 302): Smith & Wesson Model M&P15 Sport: $500 ($650 (34 Weeks), $380 (46 Weeks))

.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $975 Last Week Avg: $1,010 (-) ($1,359 (44 Weeks), $820 (20 Weeks))
California (51, 46): CMMG: 1,000 ($1,700 (4Q, 2014), $850 (29 Weeks))
Texas (81, 75): DPMS: $950 ($1,500 (4Q, 2014), $800 (28 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (23, 24): Armalite Defender: $1,000 ($1,500 (50 Weeks), $700 (21 Weeks))
Virginia (33, 37): DPMS Panther Arms AP4 LR-308: $1,000 ($2,750 (5 Weeks), $800 (16 Weeks))
Florida (60, 49): DPMS: $925 ($1,500 (4Q, 2014), $500 (20 Weeks))

7.62x39mm (AK Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $584 Last Week Avg: $564 (+) ($626 (46 Weeks), $450 (31 Weeks))
California (52, 49): IO Sporter: $600 ($700 (48 Weeks), $320 (4Q, 2014))
Texas (51, 54): Centurion C39: $550 ($800 (6 Weeks), $350 (3Q, 2014))
Pennsylvania (37, 38): WASR 10/63: $575 ($750 (1Q, 2015), $375 (40 Weeks))
Virginia (42, 50): Zastava M70AB2: $545 ($625 (1Q, 2015), $350 (1Q, 2015))
Florida (74, 67): WASR-10 : $650 ($650 (44 Weeks), $300 (4Q, 2014))

30-30 Winchester Lever Action Average Price: $416 Last Week Avg: $403 (+) ($489 (1Q, 2015), $296 (34 Weeks))
California (8, 8): Mossberg 464 SPX: $425 ($500 (29 Weeks), $180 (35 Weeks))
Texas (18, 20): Winchester Model 94: $325 ($550 (1Q, 2015), $300 (1Q, 2015))
Pennsylvania (20, 19): Marlin 336: $380 ($450 (1Q, 2015), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Virginia (9, 10): Winchester Model 94: $600 ($600 (CA: $475 (9 Weeks)), $250 (12 Weeks))
Florida (25, 26): Marlin 336W: $350 ($500 (1Q, 2015), $250 (37 Weeks))

Pistols

.45 caliber ACP (M1911 Pattern Semiautomatic Pistol) Average Price: $450 Last Week Avg: $500 (-) ($500 (2
Weeks), $350 (20 Weeks))

California (165, 151): Rock Island Armory: $400 ($600 (1Q,2015), $300 (30 Weeks))
Texas (169, 166): Llama: $400 ($600 (4Q, 2014), $325 (26 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (126, 128): Taurus 1911: $450 ($550 (41 Weeks), $300 (36 Weeks))
Virginia (129, 130): American Tactical 1911: $500 ($575 (3 Weeks)), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Florida (279, 287): AMT Hardballer: $500 ($500 (2 Weeks), $250 (49 Weeks))

9mm (Beretta 92FS or other Semiautomatic) Average Price: $326 Last Week Avg: $324 (+) ($336 (47 Weeks), $268 (25 Weeks))
California (124, 114): Springfield XD9: $400 ($450 (1Q, 2015), $200 (15 Weeks))
Texas (156, 148): Smith & Wesson SD9VE: $280 ($355 (1Q, 2015), $200 (24 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (164, 165): Heritage Arms Stealth C1000: $225 ($350 (4Q 2014), $200 (31 Weeks))
Virginia (153, 166): Beretta PX4 Storm: $400 ($425 (8 Weeks)), $250 (31 Weeks))
Florida (306, 299): Smith & Wesson SD9VE: $325 ($375 (4Q, 2014), $220 (24 Weeks))

.40 caliber S&W (Glock or other semiautomatic) Average Price: $360 Last Week Avg: $340 (+) ($399 (6 Weeks), $293 (2
Weeks))

California (87, 80): Springfield XD40: $400 ($560 (6 Weeks)), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Texas (84, 89): Ruger SR40C: $300 ($425 (4Q, 2014), $250 (10 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (63, 65): Smith & Wesson SW99: $300 ($350 (32 Weeks), $250 (1Q, 2015))
Virginia (67, 70): Sig Sauer P250: $425 ($450 (41 Weeks), $275 (1Q,2015))
Florida (124, 138): Smith & Wesson SD40: $375 ($400 (1Q, 2015), $200 (25 Weeks))

Used Gun of the Week: (Kansas)
Savage 10 FP-SR Chambered in .308 NATO

Chris Covert writes for Rantburg.com. He can be reached at grurkka@gmail.com and on Twitter.
Posted by: badanov || 02/20/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Arabia
How long will we pay for post-9/11 mistakes?
[ENGLISH.ALARABIYA.NET] No one has taken advantage of the Sept. 11 attacks and their ramifications more than Iran, which exploited them and the fact that 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudi. Unfortunately, the late Osama bin Laden
... who used to be alive but now he's not...
succeeded in driving a wedge between Riyadh and Washington by using more Saudis than any other nationality in the attacks.

Since then, several American writers and political analysts have accused Soddy Arabia
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: Fred || 02/20/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Saudi Arabia

#1  The author may have just handily outlined the current U.S. policy with regard to Iran and the region. The longer term strategy reaches back to at least WWII and later the 1953 Iranian coup d'état, known in Iran as the 28 Mordad coup.

Klingon fingerprints and their penchant for picking ME regional winners and losers encompass the terms of numerous U.S. Presidents. The puppet masters continue their efforts leveraging the historic faux mission of 'nuclear non-proliferation' more recently the looming threat of 'global warning' as their modus operandi. The real regional issues or root, as Churchill correctly stated, remain money, oil, and power.

After well over a half-century of involvement, extrication from this Persian morass appears improbable. Political administrations, congresses, and parliaments come and go. Few substantive changes occur, and for good reason. However well intended, elected officials of the political stage actually control little. Those who do attain high office quickly become aware of their impotence and bide their time with pocket lining, golf, or sexual escapade.

Harry Truman had it about right when he said:

"My choice early in life was either to be a piano player in a whorehouse or a politician. And to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference. I, for one, believe the piano player job to be much more honorable than current politicians."


Posted by: Besoeker || 02/20/2016 4:58 Comments || Top||

#2  As we ponder the wisdom of overthrowing strong men in counties and regions not likely to ever see real democracy in anyone's lifetime, let's remember Jimmy for failing to prop up the Shah. How's that all worked out? Dominoes - radical Islam, the hostages, the invasion of Afghanistan when the Beltway displayed weakness, a weakened Iran opening an opportunity for Saddam and the subsequent Iran-Iraq war, the invasion of Kuwait. The road to hell is often paved with good intentions.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/20/2016 8:14 Comments || Top||

#3  Amen P2k. Staying out of other people's business appears quite prudent. If someone gets into yours, clear warning is in order. Failing that, a very, very serious smack down.

Nation building is bunk.
Posted by: Besoeker || 02/20/2016 9:32 Comments || Top||

#4  Staying out of other people's business appears quite prudent. If someone gets into yours, clear warning is in order. Failing that, a very, very serious smack down.


Or the immediate beating can stand as warning to others. Get froggy before they know you can hop.
Posted by: Skidmark || 02/20/2016 13:31 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Donald Sensing: Hillary's emails, Loretta Lynch, and Scalia's successor
Here is how the nomination for Justice Antonin Scalia's successor comes together with Hillary Clinton's candidacy:

1. The FBI makes a criminal referral to the DOJ for Hillary's email crimes.

2. Attorney General Loretta Lynch announces that the DOJ is indicting Hillary on the charges specified by the FBI.

3. That this hands Bernie Sanders the Democrat nomination is irrelevant to Obama. He does not care who succeeds him and especially does not want the First Woman President to immediately succeed the Fist Black President, anyway. OTOH, it gives room for Biden to be begged (coff) to enter the race.

4. Once the wheels of justice are turning to topple HRC, Obama then nominates Lynch to the Supreme Court, and the Republicans are faced with rejecting a nominee who just proved her devotion to the law by indicting Hillary Clinton. The Republicans will cave. Almost immediately. As usual.

5. But don't worry, the fix is in. After the November election, when Lynch has been sitting on the Court for months and election drama is finally ended, Obama pardons Hillary for everything and garners massive acclaim from all the Left and all the oldline media.

6. On Jan. 20, President Sanders is sworn in. Or maybe President Biden. Doesn't matter.

Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 02/20/2016 02:49 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A frighteningly plausible theory.
Posted by: Besoeker || 02/20/2016 4:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Obama for Supreme Court!
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 02/20/2016 10:21 Comments || Top||

#3  Thus kick starting the race to the bottom for the Republic.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 02/20/2016 11:26 Comments || Top||



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