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-Short Attention Span Theater-
Coz daddy went to art school
Posted by: badanov || 03/19/2016 00:38 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Work team-building exercise. Mr. Wife has gone to some of those.
Posted by: trailing wife || 03/19/2016 13:37 Comments || Top||


-Land of the Free
This Week in Guns: March 19th, 2016


By Chris Covert
Rantburg.com

Housekeeping note: Quarterly ammunition price reports are next week.

I just finished helping an acquaintance assemble an AR-15 from a kit. The build went quickly and easily. I had been under the impression that it would be a good deal more complicated than it was.

While assembling the fire control group I noticed that it was functionally identical to the AK fire control group. I can see why someone would mistakenly say that the AR is a fine watch compared to the AK, given all the detents and springs in it, but that just makes the build complicated, not complex. The rifle is much easier to maintain than the AK, which really requires a gunsmith to change barrels, as an example.

You would need a gunsmith to change barrels in an AR given potential problems with headspacing, but it is much easier with an AR.

Months ago I found a link on the internet to an AR builder who built his lower from scratch without machining a full aluminum billet. He simply broke the drawing down into specific parts, and assembled them using button head cap screws.

He swears up and down the rifle is functional, and I believe him, but it looked terrible. He admitted problems exist with the build, namely with the takedown pins and the magazine catch, and the safety did not work properly due to the lack of any detent to control its location.

Looking over the drawings he provided, I realized that the lower parts kit for every AR fits every other AR, including the AR-10 rifle. The main difference between the two lowers is the length of the magazine well and the distance between the fire control groups and the forward pin holes.

To me, it was a pretty amazing piece of engineering to take and machine individual parts, then assemble them into an actual AR lower, and then build the rifle.

You can find a complete set of drawings here (PDF).
And don't worry. I maintain copies of this file in several computers.

In other news, eggheads at Harvard recently argued that white people should die. When the school got caught hosting such a debate, videos of the debate disappeared. Never happened.

Just weird. Whenever Russia holds one of its racial meets and invites white supremacists such as Jarad Taylor, you never hear about them arguing people of color should die.

You can view the video of Harvard's latest contribution to the coming civil war here.

Loads.

Rantburg's summary for arms and ammunition:

Prices for pistol ammunition were mostly unchanged, while prices for rifle ammunition were mixed.

Prices for used pistols and for used rifles were mixed.

New Lows:

None

Pistol Ammunition

.45 Caliber, 230 Grain, From Last Week: -.04 Each After Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Ammo2U, CCI Lawman, TMJ, Brass Casing, .20 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Today's Ammo, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Cased, .24 per round (From Last week: -.01 Each After Unchanged (5 Weeks))

.40 Caliber Smith & Wesson, 180 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Goose Island Sales, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .22 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Freedom Ammunition, Mixed Bullets, Store brand, Brass, .22 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (1Q, 2016))

9mm Parabellum, 115 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Goose Island Sales, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .17 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: SG Ammo, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .16 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks))

.357 Magnum, 158 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2 weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Goose Island Sales, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .25 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 rounds: SG Ammo, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel cased, .25 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (4Q, 2015))

Rifle Ammunition

.223 Caliber/5.56mm 55 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: LAX ammunition, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .22 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Ammunition Supply Company, Tulammo, FMJ, steel casing, .22 per round (From Last Week: -.01 Each After Unchanged (2 Weeks))

.308 NATO 150 Grain, From Last Week: +.01 Each
Cheapest, 20 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Tulammo, FMJ, steel casing, .37 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Tulammo, steel casing, FMJ, .34 per round (From Last Week: -.02 Each)

7.62x39 AK 123 Grain, From Last Week: -.02 each After Unchanged (9 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Munire USA, Wolf Polyformance, steel case, FMJ, .23 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: SG Ammo, Wolf WPA, steel case, FMJ, .23 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (4 weeks))

.22 LR 40 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Ammomen, Federal, RNL .07 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 325 rounds: Natchez Shooters Supply, Federal, RNL, .07 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks))

Guns for Private Sale
Rifles


.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $500 Last Week Avg: $585 (-) ($616 (49 Weeks), $476 (25 Weeks))
California (186, 183): Smith & Wesson M&P Sport: $600 ($650 (1Q,2015), $400 (28 Weeks))
Texas (248, 237): Mixed Build: $500 ($700 (1Q, 2015), $350 (49 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (110, 109): Smith & Wesson M&P15 Sport II : $450 ($700 (48 Weeks), $300 (36 Weeks))
Virginia (138, 144): Smith & Wesson M&P Sport: $550 ($750 (1Q, 2015), $480 (14 Weeks))
Florida (299, 304): Colt AR-15: $400 ($650 (38 Weeks), $380 (50 Weeks))

.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $936 Last Week Avg: $865 (+) ($1,359 (48 Weeks), $820 (24 Weeks))
California (45, 43): Palmetto State Armory: $950 ($1,700 (4Q, 2014), $850 (33 Weeks))
Texas (79, 79): DPMS Panther Oracle: $880 ($1,500 (4Q, 2014), $800 (32 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (23, 24): Armalite: $1,000 ($1,500 (1Q, 2015), $700 (25 Weeks))
Virginia (37, 35): DPMS: $850 ($2,750 (9 Weeks), $800 (20 Weeks))
Florida (53, 56): DPMS: $1,000 ($1,500 (4Q, 2014), $500 (24 Weeks))

7.62x39mm (AK Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $550 Last Week Avg: $606 (-) ($626 (50 Weeks), $450 (35 Weeks))
California (53, 50): I.O: $500 ($700 (1Q, 2015), $320 (4Q, 2014))
Texas (58, 54): Unspecified Brand: $650 ($800 (10 Weeks), $350 (3Q, 2014))
Pennsylvania (39, 37): Zastava PAP: $500 ($750 (1Q, 2015), $375 (44 Weeks))
Virginia (48, 37): CAI VZ2008: $550 ($625 (1Q, 2015), $350 (1Q, 2015))
Florida (84, 84): WASR 10: $550 ($700 (3 Weeks), $300 (4Q, 2014))

30-30 Winchester Lever Action Average Price: $371 Last Week Avg: $371(=) ($489 (1Q, 2015), $296 (38 Weeks))
California (11, 9): Mossberg 464 SPX: $470 ($500 (33 Weeks), $180 (39 Weeks))
Texas (18, 18): Marlin 336: $350 ($550 (1Q, 2015), $300 (1Q, 2015))
Pennsylvania (19, 20): Winchester Model 94: $350 ($450 (1Q, 2015), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Virginia (10, 12): Winchester Model 94: $300 ($600 (5 Weeks)), $250 (16 Weeks))
Florida (25, 24): Mossberg 464: $385 ($500 (1Q, 2015), $250 (41 Weeks))

Pistols

.45 caliber ACP (M1911 Pattern Semiautomatic Pistol) Average Price: $441 Last Week Avg: $491 (-) ($500 (5 Weeks), $350 (23 Weeks))
California (156, 147): Rock Island Armory: $450 ($725 (2 Weeks), $300 (33 Weeks))
Texas (160, 172): American Tactical Imports: $380 ($600 (4Q, 2014), $325 (30 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (124, 124): Remington R1 1911: $500 ($550 (45 Weeks), $300 (40 Weeks))
Virginia (132, 140): American Tactical 1911: $500 ($575 (7 Weeks)), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Florida (258, 275): Llama: $375 ($500 (6 Weeks), $250 (1Q, 2015))

9mm (Beretta 92FS or other Semiautomatic) Average Price: $313 Last Week Avg: $320 (-) ($358 (3 Weeks), $268 (29 Weeks))
California (122, 117): Kahr CW9: $375 ($500 (3 Weeks), $200 (19 Weeks))
Texas (179, 171): Smith & Wesson SD9VE: $270 ($355 (1Q, 2015), $200 (28 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (160, 154): Heritage Arms Stealth C1000: $225 ($350 (4Q 2014), $200 (35 Weeks))
Virginia (149, 152): Ruger P95: $375 ($425 (12 Weeks)), $250 (35 Weeks))
Florida (263, 268): Beretta 92: $320 ($375 (4Q, 2014), $220 (27 Weeks))

.40 caliber S&W (Glock or other semiautomatic) Average Price: $348 Last Week Avg: $340$ (+) ($399 (10 Weeks), $293 (6 Weeks))
California (90, 80): Glock 22: $399 ($560 (10 Weeks)), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Texas (90, 84): Smith & Wesson SW40VE: $295 ($425 (4Q, 2014), $250 (14 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (63, 60): Smith & Wesson SD40VE: $335 ($350 (36 Weeks), $250 (1Q, 2015))
Virginia (57, 50): Ruger SR40C: $435 ($450 (44 Weeks), $275 (1Q,2015))
Florida (131, 132): Smith & Wesson SD40: $275 ($400 (1Q, 2015), $200 (28 Weeks))

Used Gun of the Week: (Ohio)
Harrington & Richardson 732 Chambered in .32 Smith & Wesson Long

Chris Covert writes for Rantburg.com. He can be reached at grurkka@gmail.com and on Twitter
Posted by: badanov || 03/19/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Excellent choice on the H&R 732. I've been trying to find a nice 'Triple Nine' for years.
Posted by: Besoeker || 03/19/2016 3:57 Comments || Top||

#2 
BLM activist advocates white genocide at Harvard.


Ain't going to happen. Time to go over the checklist again, let's see guns cleaned, oiled and in good working order (✔), plenty of ammo (✔), other essential stuff (✔) in case of urban chaos.
Posted by: JohnQC || 03/19/2016 11:00 Comments || Top||

#3  I just finished helping an aquaintance assemble an AR-15 from a kit.

Just to pass on some advice that I found helpful. Take the time to research every single part prior to purchase. One benefit of "Complete" kits is that it takes the guess work out. The downside is the parts included typically offer basic functionality. That's fine but it may be more cost effective to purchase more desireable parts initially and avoid upgrade costs down the road.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 03/19/2016 12:45 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Ernesto "Che" Guevara's son on Champ's upcoming visit to Cuba
BLUF: [Guardian] Guevara is reluctant to share personal reminiscences. "I have flashes of memory but I’m not sure how reliable they are because we fill emptiness with our own visions," he says. Instead he prefers to focus on the concrete legacy by distributing his father’s ideas online, in educational materials and exhibitions.

All of which are politically toxic to a US president during campaign season. Obama will be cautious about endorsing his hosts. Officials say he will not meet Fidel Castro. Instead, he will be more intent on workshops with entrepreneurs, talks with civil society groups, a baseball match, a speech to the nation’s youth, and bilateral talks.

There is no chance he will visit the Che Guevara Study Centre for a lesson in revolution. For Guevara that is a shame: "If Obama comes, he might learn something."
Posted by: Besoeker || 03/19/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Che and Obama are not people to be admired. File along with Hugo Chavez in the dust bin of history.
Posted by: JohnQC || 03/19/2016 10:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Keep in mind that some of O's heroes are also murderers like Che. Wouldn't be surprised if Guevara The Elder isn't one of them.


Ayers, Dorn, Al-Bashir, Cecile Richards,.......the list goes on.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 03/19/2016 14:34 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Russian pundits ponder what Moscow achieved in Syria
Besides punking the president of the United States yet again?
Posted by: ryuge || 03/19/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Unit activations and realtime IG?
Posted by: Skidmark || 03/19/2016 9:40 Comments || Top||

#2  What did the Germans achieve in Spain?

Training, experience, C&C stress testing, TTP, weapons proofing. Just consider it like the National Training Center, Fort Irwin, but with live ammo.

Unlike practicing on their immediate neighbors, they got to do it with tacit approval.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 03/19/2016 10:25 Comments || Top||

#3  They've found out that gear and training works or can be made to work.
Optempo is wearing them down, though. Not enough assets in depth.
They can also see that Assad is about to imitate a smoking hole in the ground, and don't want to be nearby in force when it finally hits the fan there (or they'd have to intervene).
Posted by: ed in texas || 03/19/2016 10:31 Comments || Top||

#4  They kept a regime that provides them the only port in Mediterranean in power. Tested/advertised weapons/operational procedures. Signaled the rest of the World that Russia is back. And showed (former) USA how it's done. If several million Allah-beasts end up in Western Europe (home of Russia's implacable enemies), it's just just a bonus.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 03/19/2016 10:57 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Perspective on Hillary
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 03/19/2016 06:32 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I like the line: "Compared to her, Capt. Ahab was just a guy looking forward to his next fishing trip."
Posted by: JohnQC || 03/19/2016 11:02 Comments || Top||


EVERY REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE IS [Godwin]
...Accusing Republicans of being Hitler for assorted petty reasons dates back to the time when Hitler was still around. FDR accused Republican candidate Wendell Willkie of using "Hitler tactics" by repeating his slogans frequently. But it was the frequent associations of Republicans and Hitler by Democrats that was the true Big Lie. Its only purpose was a senseless association through the repetition of ridiculous and baseless accusations that every single Republican was just Hitler in a better suit.

...To most people, Nazi analogies summon up images of the Holocaust and a ruthless dictatorship. To the left however, any populist reaction against their rule is Nazism. In their world, there is a battle between progressive and reactionary forces. Any movement that dares to run for office by challenging progressive policies is reactionary, fascist and the second coming of the Third Reich. Republican victories are lazily attributed by liberal hacks to mindless public anger being exploited by right-wing demagogues.

...Republicans aren’t progressive. Therefore they’re Hitler. It’s really that simple.

Optimists thought that the Democrats had reached "Peak Hitler" under Bush. But for the left there is no Peak Hitler. The same tired line of attack has been trotted out for fifty years. It will go on limping around the liberal corral for another fifty years or a hundred years. The Big Lie will continue being repeated to indoctrinate each new politically active progressive with the conviction that anyone to the right is Hitler and that every election is a brand new battle to stop Hitler 2.0 from taking over America.

Goldwater was Hitler. Nixon was Hitler. Reagan was Hitler. Bush was Hitler. None of the latter three men declared the Fourth Reich, made themselves dictators for life and ran concentration camps. But the Big Lie retroactively rewrites the past by claiming that last decade’s Hitler was a decent moderate while the latest Republican Hitler is a terrifying monster. Goldwater, Nixon and Reagan were all resurrected as moderate contrasts to each other and then to Bush. The process of recreating Bush as a moderate has already begun. And so each Republican makes the electoral journey from Hitler to a political moderate whom a latter generation of liberals mourns while complaining that this latest Republican really is Hitler.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 03/19/2016 05:15 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Nazi is the socially tolerated pejorative akin to ni**er. It's original meaning and context are lost and the emotional intent is substituted.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 03/19/2016 10:29 Comments || Top||

#2  How come none of them are Stalin?
Posted by: Matt || 03/19/2016 10:29 Comments || Top||

#3  How come none of them are Stalin?

Matt, bet you anything: before this ends, Trump will compare Hillary to Stalin in a public speech.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 03/19/2016 11:01 Comments || Top||

#4  But she doesn't have a moustache.
Posted by: Matt || 03/19/2016 11:44 Comments || Top||

#5  Then the Donald will call her "Stalin without a mustache". And she'll reply "You've been talking to Bill!"
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 03/19/2016 12:06 Comments || Top||

#6  LMAO
Posted by: Matt || 03/19/2016 12:34 Comments || Top||

#7  The correct answer is "nonsense, he's not a socialist, he's conservative). Right back at them with reminders Hitler is of the left.
Posted by: Rjschwarz || 03/19/2016 18:15 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Hulk Hogan Wins $115M In Lawsuit Against Gawker
Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of scumbags.
Hulk Hogan may have earned his biggest victory in or out of the ring on Friday when a St. Petersburg, Florida jury awarded him $115 million in his invasion of privacy lawsuit against Gawker Media, which published clips of a 2012 sex tape he made with the wife of one of his friends. The professional wrestling and reality TV superstar sued the company that same year, seeking damages for defamation, loss of privacy and emotional pain.
But wait - there's more!
Amazingly, Hogan could be getting even more from the jury, as punitive damages have yet to be decided. The jury will meet again next week to consider that argument.
I hope Gawker's required to immediately put a sizeable amount of that in escrow while they appeal.
Posted by: Raj || 03/19/2016 11:13 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


Government
The Feckless Mismanagement Of John Brennan, CIA's Captain Unreality
[Business Insider] Hotels.com has an amusing TV character called "Captain Obvious" who makes humorous commercials by saying clearly obvious things. The CIA has a director who is the exact opposite -- a "Captain Un-Reality" -- who constantly makes absurd claims contrary to facts and common sense.

During an National Public Radio interview last month, for example, CIA Director John Brennan made what may be the most bizarre statement ever by an U.S. intelligence official: "We don’t steal secrets," he said. "Everything we do is consistent with U.S. law. We uncover, we discover, we reveal, we obtain, we elicit, we solicit."

This was a ridiculous statement. Although the CIA is required to comply with U.S. law, one of its core missions is stealing secrets abroad through a variety of means that blatantly violate the laws of other nations. This is the nature of intelligence collection.

That this CIA director would say something so preposterous is symptomatic of the damage the Obama administration has done to our national security with his assistance. It also is not the only example of Mr. Brennan’s denying the obvious.

He has repeatedly echoed President Obama’s refusal to use the terms "jihadist" or "Islamist" to describe members of Islamic terrorist groups like al-Qaida and ISIS. He explained this in a 2010 CSIS speech by disputing ties between these groups and Islam.

Brennan also said in this speech that we should not label "our enemy as jihadists or Islamists because jihad is holy struggle, a legitimate tenet of Islam meaning to purify oneself of one’s community."

Brennan had a controversial tenure as President Obama’s assistant for homeland security and counterterrorism in the National Security Council. He played a role in the administration’s decision to read Miranda rights to Umar Abdulmutallab, the so-called "underwear bomber" who tried to destroy a civilian airliner over Detroit on Christmas Day 2009.

Brennan also was widely criticized for defending this decision by falsely claiming that the Obama administration had continued a Bush administration policy.

While at the NSC, Brennan also was involved in editing talking points drafted by the CIA on the 2011 attacks on the U.S. consulate Benghazi which said, contrary to available intelligence and State Department reporting, that the attacks were in response to an anti-Muslim video and were not a pre-planned terrorist attack.

Reports of Brennan’s ineptitude have grown since he became CIA director in 2013.
Posted by: Besoeker || 03/19/2016 04:04 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Nice bit by Fleitz, but he only scratches the surface. The author confuses 'ineptitude' with a puppet master's clearly focused pro-Islamic strategy.

Brennan is on for the long haul and here is why.

Posted by: Besoeker || 03/19/2016 4:21 Comments || Top||

#2  symptomatic of the damage the Obama administration has done to our national security
Posted by: Skidmark || 03/19/2016 11:06 Comments || Top||

#3  Then it's been resolved that Brennan is not a Muslim Manchurian Candidate appointee but just incompetent?
Posted by: JohnQC || 03/19/2016 11:12 Comments || Top||


How Lockheed Martin's Grand Plan for the F-35 Fell Apart
[The Motley Fool] Once upon a time, there was an F-22 Raptor. It was a good plane -- some even called it "the most capable air superiority combat jet in the world" -- but it cost a lot.

At a sticker price of $412 million per plane , the U.S. Air Force couldn't afford to buy a lot of F-22s. So, to ensure it had a good quantity of fighter jets, as well as a few of good quality, the Air Force proposed a "high-low" solution. On the high end, it would buy a handful of ultra-expensive F-22s to ensure air dominance. On the low end, to boost its numbers and ensure its ability to carry a lot of bombs into combat, it would buy a whole mess of F-35 Lightning II fighter jets -- projected to cost just $35 million each. (Lockheed Martin, which builds both planes, was happy to oblige on both ends).

That was the plan. Instead, the F-35 fighter jet is turning out to be the most expensive fighter jet ever built, and is expected to ultimately cost taxpayers as much as $1.5 trillion.
Posted by: Besoeker || 03/19/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Instead of a simple but mighty OPTIMUS PRIME = TRIPLE-CHANGER AUTOBOT TRANSFORMER, it devol into a SUPER-DUPER-OMEGA-SUPREME/AUTOBOT CITY way wayyy way-y-y beyond anyone's dreams.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 03/19/2016 2:15 Comments || Top||

#2  And the next breakthrough technology aircraft will be so expensive that the Air Force and Navy together will only be able to buy one. They will share it on alternating days. The Marines get it on Leap Day.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 03/19/2016 10:21 Comments || Top||

#3  ...$1.5 trillion...

Which is the price for development and purchase and maintenance for three separate subtypes over a twenty-five year period.

Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 03/19/2016 12:46 Comments || Top||

#4  Aw Snowy, you know rules, it's a small town we gotta support the team, and the team sez F-35 is a stinker. Open up the A-10 and F-22 lines (486 with coprocessor!). :)
Posted by: Shipman || 03/19/2016 19:05 Comments || Top||



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Sat 2016-03-19
  Suicide bomber attacks shopping area in Istanbul
Fri 2016-03-18
  Kurds preparing to liberate Raqqa
Thu 2016-03-17
  11 Shaboobs slain as Punties continue cleanup
Wed 2016-03-16
  ISIS executes 50 for desertion in Anbar
Tue 2016-03-15
  Hamas commander killed in 10th tunnel cave-in this year
Mon 2016-03-14
  Syrian rebels renew chemical attacks in Aleppo
Sun 2016-03-13
  Dozens dead after explosion rocks Turkish capital
Sat 2016-03-12
  US adds Hezb-e-Islami Gulbuddin members to list of global terrorists
Fri 2016-03-11
  US strikes IS group chemical weapons capabilities: Pentagon
Thu 2016-03-10
  Afghan woman kills 25 Taliban rebels to avenge her son's murder
Wed 2016-03-09
  Infighting among Taliban leaders leave 26 dead in Herat province
Tue 2016-03-08
  Drone strike kills 15 Daesh militants in Nangarhar
Mon 2016-03-07
  Hassan al-Turabi, Sudan's Islamist idealogue, dies at 84
Sun 2016-03-06
  Saudi Says it will Take Arms Bound for Lebanon
Sat 2016-03-05
  Taliban says will not take part in Afghan peace talks
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