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-Land of the Free
This Week in Guns, February 18th, 2017


By Chris Covert
Rantburg.com

A few weeks ago Samuel J Culper's rant was posted in the Western Rifle Shooters Association blog. It was about misconceptions in the event of a hot civil war in the U.S. Among his contentions were that domestic enemies could cause of a lot of havoc once armed, and the fact that they don't seemed to interested in firearms at the moment doesn't mean they won't be. You should read the whole thing, a profanity-laced reminder that some people don't belong in marketing, even if it is for firearms training.

One reader remarked:

You could hand out guns to that mob wholesale, and all you’d get would be an armed mob, instead of a largely unarmed one.

There wouldn’t be any fair fighting; they’d be taking casualties from blocks away, from “rooftop Koreans” using semi-autos and bolt guns, behind cover and concealment, and at fit distances for men to shoot.

That armed mob would become a target-rich impact area, and scatter to the four winds after a volley. They wouldn’t be doing any infiltration, house to house, reduction of strongpoints, etc.

They’ll be unassing the area at the speed of Nike tennis shoes, and trying to find their car keys, or flag down Uber to GTFO of Dodge.

It will be known as the Battle of Who Run.

A lot of them would still be laying in the street the next morning, and then the shit would really hit the fan.

The survivors would be rounded up like rabbits, and run to ground from hedge to hillside, after the hue and cry went up on local police nets, and fare about as well as the Children’s Crusade.

I'd say that would go for both sides. I can see casualties for both sides in the early going easily rising to 75-90 percent, even with tactical training. One side may have military training and additional tactical training, but the other side will take casualties without so much as blinking. All you'd wind up with is a lot of blood in the streets.

My regard for firearms trainers has evolved, from seeing them as a group of well-trained men offering a much-needed product to seeing a bunch of well-trained yahoos who want to impart their spec ops/law enforcement experience to the legal yahoos they will be training. And those trainees will likely be among the 90 percent shot, either from friendly fire or from their domestic enemies.

Subsequent to that, Culper's associate John Mosby offered some helpful advice on firearms training, juxtaposing the importance of accurate fire with speed of fire. I suspect a lot more goes into the equation than that, such as approach maneuvers, cover and concealment and target acquisition, but this exposition is a very good place to start training.

Loads.

Rantburg's summary for arms and ammunition:

Prices for pistol ammunition were mostly steady. Prices for rifle ammunition mostly steady.

Prices for used pistols were mixed. Prices for used rifles were lower across the board.

New Lows:

Virginia: .308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic): DPMS Oracle LR-308: $750

Pistol Ammunition

.45 Caliber, 230 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (4Q, 2016)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .24 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: FedArm, Own Brand, TMJ, Brass Casing, Reloads, .23 per round (From Last week: Unchanged (4 Weeks))

.40 Caliber Smith & Wesson, 180 Grain, From Last Week: -.01 Each After Unchanged (6 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Freedom Munitions, Own Brand, FMJ, Brass Casing, Reloads, .21 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Own Brand, Brass Casing, Reloads, .21 per round (From Last Week: +.01 Each

9mm Parabellum, 115 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (4Q, 2016)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .15 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: FedArm, Own Brand, TPMJ, Brass Casing, Reloads, .14 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks))

.357 Magnum, 158 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .24 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel casing, .24 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks))

.38 Special, 158 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Parabellum Research, Own brand, LRN, Brass Casing, Reloads, .26 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 500 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Prvi Partizan, LRN, Brass casing, .26 per round (From Last Week: +.02 Each After Unchanged (2 Weeks))

Rifle Ammunition

.223 Caliber/5.56mm 55 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Wolf WPA, FMJ, Steel Casing, .21 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Wolf WPA, FMJ, Steel Casing, .20 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks)

.308 NATO 150 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Alamo Ammo, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .31 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .32 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (4 Weeks)

7.62x39mm AK 123 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Ammo King, Wolf WPA, Steel Case, FMJ, .20 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Wolf WPA, Steel Case, FMJ, .20 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks))

.30-06 Springfield 145 Grain. From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: SG Ammo, Wolf WPA, Steel Case, FMJ, .65 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Ammo Liquidator, Wolf WPA, Steel Case, FMJ, .56 per round (From Last week: Unchanged (4 Weeks))

.300 Winchester Magnum 150 Grain, From Last Week: -.05 Each
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Ammunition Depot, Prvi Partizan, Brass Case, SP, .95 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: Ammo Liquidator, Hornady Whitetail, Brass Case, SP, 1.04 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks))

.338 Lapua Magnum 250 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Unlimited, Federal, Brass Case, JSP, 2.30 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 200 rounds: Target Sports USA, Prvi Partizan, Brass Case, FMJ, 2.40 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks)

.22 LR 40 Grain, From Last Week: -.01 Each After Unchanged (3 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds (5 Box Limit): Gander Mountain, Federal, RNL, .05 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 325 rounds: Ammomen, Federal Champion, RNL, .06 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks))

Guns for Private Sale
Rifles


.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $471 Last Week Avg: $500 (-) ($616 (2Q, 2015), $468 (11 Weeks))
Arizona (119, 123): Palmetto State Armory: $550 ($600 (6 Weeks), $500 (7 Weeks))
Texas (343, 325): Vigilant Arms: $400 ($700 (1Q, 2015), $350 (2Q, 2015))
Pennsylvania (194, 186): Mixed Builds: $480 ($700 (2Q, 2015), $300 (3Q, 2015))
Virginia (225, 219): Bushmaster: $450 ($750 (1Q, 2015), $415 (10 Weeks))
Florida (483, 475): Mixed Build: $475 ($650 (2Q, 2015), $380 (1Q, 2015))

.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $895 Last Week Avg: $919(-) ($1,359 (2Q, 2015), $820 (3Q, 2015))
Arizona (25, 29): Palmetto State Armory: $1,350 ($1,350 (CA: $1,100 (4 Weeks))), $650 (7 Weeks))
Texas (106, 97): Bushmaster: $700 ($1,500 (4Q, 2014), $700 (29 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (45, 46): DPMS: $925 ($1,600 (14 Weeks), $700 (3Q, 2015))
Virginia (62, 58): DPMS Oracle LR-308: $750 ($2,750 (1Q, 2016), $750 (CA: $795 (1 Weeks)) )
Florida (83, 88): DPMS Sportical: $750 ($1,950 (41 Weeks), $500 (3Q, 2015))

7.62x39mm (AK Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $525 Last Week Avg: $575(-) ($668 (23 Weeks)), $450 (3Q, 2015))
Arizona (24, 26): RAS-47: $650 ($650 (7 Weeks)), $500 (7 Weeks))
Texas (82, 89): IO: $600 ($800 (1Q, 2016, $350 (3Q, 2014))
Pennsylvania (57, 55): CAI M-70 Underfolder: $400 ($750 (1Q, 2015), $375 (1Q, 2015))
Virginia (48, 51): Romak WASR 10: $525 ($700 (36 Weeks), $350 (1Q, 2015))
Florida (122, 113): CAI VZ58: $450 ($700 (50 Weeks), $300 (4Q, 2014))

30-30 Winchester Lever Action Average Price: $360 Last Week Avg: $391(-) ($495 (19 Weeks), $296 (3Q, 2015))
Arizona (6, 6): Winchester 94: $500 ($500 (6 Weeks), $500 (7 Weeks))
Texas (15, 13): Winchester 94: $350 ($550 (1Q, 2015), $300 (1Q, 2015))
Pennsylvania (12, 9): Marlin: $350 ($450 (1Q, 2015), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Virginia (15, 16): Winchester 94: $300 ($670 (39 Weeks)), $250 (4Q, 2015))
Florida (23, 23): Winchester 94: $300 ($500 (1Q, 2015), $250 (2Q, 2015))

Pistols

.45 caliber ACP (M1911 Pattern Semiautomatic Pistol) Average Price: $438 Last Week Avg: $459(-) ($515 (28 Weeks)), $350 (4Q, 2015))
Arizona (91, 88): Essex: $495 ($600 (3 Weeks), $400 (7 Weeks))
Texas (263, 267): High Standard Stainless: $450 ($600 (4Q, 2014), $300 (11 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (158, 153): Rock Island Armory: $345 ($575 ($575 (6 Weeks), $300 (2Q, 2015))
Virginia (150, 150): Iver Johnson: $500 ($600 (3 Weeks)), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Florida (341, 347): Taurus PT1911: $400 ($500 (1Q, 2016), $250 (1Q, 2015))

9mm (Beretta 92FS or other Semiautomatic) Average Price: $280 Last Week Avg: $248(+) ($358 (49 Weeks), $231 (7 Weeks))
Arizona (123, 115): Ruger P95: $300 ($320 (3 Weeks), $275 (7 Weeks))
Texas (355, 352): Smith & Wesson SD9VE: $300 ($355 (1Q, 2015), $200 (3Q, 2015))
Pennsylvania (298, 299): Taurus PT111: $200 ($350 (4Q 2014), $195 (2 Weeks))
Virginia (256, 250): Diamondback DB9FS: $299 ($425 (4Q, 2016), $189 (46 Weeks))
Florida (553, 549): Kahr CW9: $300 ($400 (48 Weeks), $190 (28 Weeks))

.40 caliber S&W (Glock or other semiautomatic) Average Price: $322 Last Week Avg: $307(+) ($399 (1Q, 2016), $262 (36 Weeks))
Arizona (36, 39): Kel Tec P.40: $350 ($500 (6 Weeks)), $300 (4 Weeks)
Texas (121, 121): Springfield XDM 40: $250 ($425 (4Q, 2014), ($210 (21 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (89, 87): Smith & Wesson SD40VE: $260 ($450 (44 Weeks), $200 (24 Weeks))
Virginia (98, 93): Springfield XD-40: $400 ($450 (2Q, 2015), $275 (1Q, 2015))
Florida (155, 146): Kahr CW40: $350 ($400 (1Q, 2015), $199 (4Q, 2015))

Used Gun of the Week: (Texas)
Kriss Vector SDP Chambered in 10mm
Posted by: badanov || 02/18/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...but the other side will take casualties without so much as blinking.

Really? The free stuff brigade is not about work or sacrifice. They won't be blinking as much as their commissars drive them into the fire zone - see: Enemy at the Gates. Once you burn through their thugs and anarchists, there's not a lot of depth in their team. You think the rich and well to do are going to be on the front lines? The academics? the journalists?

Defending miles of power lines and gas pipelines, bridges and overpasses, rail junction is going to take a lot of disbursed manpower. Without those, cities starve, freeze and roast. The natural habitat is fundamentally altered.

I don't see a quick civil war. It'll degenerate into something similar to Iraq, dealing with a insurgency till the borders are really sealed and the tolerance for the natural destruction and nihilism of the Left is ended. Do on to them, what they did to everyone else in the 20th Century.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/18/2017 8:06 Comments || Top||

#2  #1 is correct and on the right post:
"the other side will take casualties without so much as blinking" in 3rd para
Posted by: Frank G || 02/18/2017 8:15 Comments || Top||

#3  Thanks Frank, duhhh. I missed it. 'One Team - One Fight' at the Burg.
Posted by: Besoeker || 02/18/2017 8:17 Comments || Top||

#4  There are many forms of wide spread violence. Violent adversaries will try to destroy one or the other with deadly force. Some of the population will stay and many of them will become casualties. Others will flee and become refugees. During this time the Pale Horse of Death is at full gallop.

After the US civil war of the North vs the South the descendent sons and daughters witnessed the mass death and destruction and said "Not in our lands anymore." And all acts of war against them, they made sure the resulting violence occured in the far lands of the aggressor to protect our innocent from terror.

The new generation however is importing the ideologies of violence in a pact for power with the demonics. So the danger of the return of the pale horse of death, terror and desolation returns to our lands again unless their are peace keepers who have the courage to do what it takes to keep the pale horse of death at bay. The Satanic Demonics are mighty and powerful that even the holy angels fear, but by the grace of the good and mighty God that the American people have feared and worshipped in past by entire generations, victory over death will be ours.
Posted by: Nero White 3083 || 02/18/2017 13:11 Comments || Top||

#5  Plenty of examples of confident, well trained, well organized forces going into harms way against the forces of evil and coming up short. And dead.

History is replete with those, so there is no reason to think the average US gunowner wouldn't suffer as much as his opponent.

Official forces, such as kops and soldiers will first defend their own supply lines and positions, assuming they show up at all, not gas lines and not power lines. Pretty much what their opposition would do.

Everyone would be left on their own to adhere to whichever side is feeding who.

It would be an epic mess.
Posted by: badanov || 02/18/2017 13:42 Comments || Top||

#6  It would be an epic mess.
Posted by: JohnQC || 02/18/2017 16:16 Comments || Top||

#7  Organization matters, as the review of Days of Rage points out. One side already has a leg up on organization. Again. There is intimidation long before there's much blood on the streets.
Posted by: james || 02/18/2017 19:18 Comments || Top||

#8  "but the other side will take casualties without so much as blinking" Sorry, not buying that one. When at 500+ yards away from their goal people's heads start exploding and spattering blood and brain tissue around the nearby followers, better then 95% of them will stop, turn and start running.
Posted by: Chantry || 02/18/2017 20:21 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Trump's team in disarray, McShame tells Europe
[Reuters] Republican Senator John McCain broke with the reassuring message that U.S. officials visiting Germany have sought to convey on their debut trip to Europe, saying on Friday that the administration of President Donald Trump was in "disarray".

McCain, a known Trump critic, told the Munich Security Conference that the resignation of the new president's security adviser Michael Flynn over his contacts with Russia reflected deep problems in Washington.

"I think that the Flynn issue obviously is something that shows that in many respects this administration is in disarray and they've got a lot of work to do," said McCain, even as he praised Trump's defense secretary.

"The president, I think, makes statements (and) on other occasions contradicts himself. So we've learned to watch what the president does as opposed to what he says," he said.

European governments have been unsettled by the signals sent by Trump on a range of foreign policy issues ranging from NATO and Russia to Iran, Israel and European integration.

The debut trip to Europe of Trump's Defence Secretary Jim Mattis and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, to a meeting of G20 counterparts in Bonn, went some way to assuaging concerns as they both took a more traditional U.S. position.
Posted by: Besoeker || 02/18/2017 08:28 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Sen. McCain...thank you for your service and we have a car waiting to take you to your much deserved retirement.
Posted by: Warthog || 02/18/2017 9:47 Comments || Top||

#2  Mad as a hatter. Is there some way his passport could be revoked?
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 02/18/2017 11:06 Comments || Top||

#3  Is there some way he could be prosecuted for purporting to represent the United States government when he is really nothing but a bitter old mad man?
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 02/18/2017 11:08 Comments || Top||

#4  Like Athena springing forth from the brow of Zeus... Is that the minimum standard?

McIdiot assumes that an Administration that is less than a month(!) must be perfect or worthless. Wotta maroon!
Posted by: magpie || 02/18/2017 11:39 Comments || Top||

#5  "My 2009 Cabinet was much better"
"Uh, Sir"
Posted by: Frank G || 02/18/2017 11:52 Comments || Top||

#6  Funny, but, between the two, I would have more expected butthurt from Graham.
Posted by: Blossom Unains5562 || 02/18/2017 12:12 Comments || Top||

#7  @#6:

With McCain it's metaphorical, Graham has the more physical kind.
Posted by: charger || 02/18/2017 12:23 Comments || Top||

#8  McCain must have grudge against Trump. Must have been something Trump said during the primaries. McShame is spreading the left-wing Donk meme.
Posted by: JohnQC || 02/18/2017 16:44 Comments || Top||

#9  McStain does this when the Republicans are in power to seem the maverick. When the demoncrats are in power, he works with the Republicans so he keeps his seat.

Either way, he is a disgrace and needs to be sent to pasture.
Posted by: DarthVader || 02/18/2017 18:29 Comments || Top||

#10  I'll be glad when its time to elect a new Senator for Arizona.
Posted by: Crusader || 02/18/2017 18:46 Comments || Top||


The Trump-Netanyahu alliance
[Jpost] When they met on Wednesday, US President Donald Trump and Prime Minister Benjamin were both walking wounded.

Netanyahu arrived in Washington the center of a criminal investigation the chief characteristic of which is that selected details of the probe are regularly leaked to the media by anonymous sources who cannot be challenged or held to account.
After several months of "investigation" we were confronted with a shocking discovery: apparently, Bibi gets monthly allowance from one of his mom's relatives - which he kept secret from Saraleh and used to buy cigars.
...As for Trump, he met with Netanyahu two days after his loyal national security adviser, Lt.-Gen. (ret.) Michael Flynn, was forced to resign.

Flynn’s resignation was the culmination of a continuous campaign of defamation waged against him that began even before Trump was elected.

...The campaign against Flynn was based on highly classified information regarding conversations Flynn held with Russia’s ambassador to the US during the transition process in December. Under US law, intelligence agencies are prohibited from divulging the identity of US citizens whose conversations with foreign intelligence targets are intercepted.

The law is in place for good reason. As Eli Lake wrote in Bloomberg on Tuesday, "Selectively disclosing details of private conversations monitored by the FBI or NSA gives the permanent state the power to destroy reputations from the cloak of anonymity. This is what police states do."

In the event, an FBI investigation of the conversations after they were leaked concluded that Flynn did nothing illegal in his dealings with the Russian ambassador. But criminalizing Flynn was never the object of the leaks ‐ making him politically toxic was the aim. And it was accomplished on Monday when he resigned.

It appears likely that Trump became convinced that by sacrificing Flynn, he would end the insurrection US intelligence operatives are waging against his presidency. But as The New York Times made clear on Wednesday, the opposite is true.

...To a certain degree, Trump’s first month in office bears a striking similarly to Netanyahu’s first term in office 20 years ago. When Netanyahu was first elected prime minister in 1996, he was an inexperienced politician. Before winning the election, Netanyahu had never held a cabinet level appointment.

Netanyahu, who opposed the phony peace process with the PLO, was viewed as the root of all evil by Israel’s security and legal establishment whose members had adopted the two-state formula as their catechism. After he was elected they joined forces to subvert his authority.

...Instead of standing up to the rebellious bureaucracies, Netanyahu caved in. Consequently, he lost his base, and in 1999 he lost his office.

In a way, Netanyahu had no choice. He had no allies with the power to help him. The Clinton administration was implacably opposed to him and worked openly with the Israeli deep state to unseat him. The media hated him even more than they hate him today.

Trump’s decision to allow Flynn to resign was a dangerous sign that he is beginning to follow the same pattern of behavior that led to the failure of Netanyahu’s first term.

But his press conference with Netanyahu on Wednesday signaled that Trump may yet turn things around and gain control over the rebellious bureaucracy by leaning on an ally that wants him to succeed and needs him to succeed in order to survive himself.

From the statements they made at the joint press conference, it is clear that Trump and Netanyahu have decided to build an alliance. Its purpose is twofold. First, by working together, they can defeat the common foes of their countries. And second, the success of their joint efforts will bring about the defeat of their bureaucratic enemies.

The most significant development to come out of the Trump-Netanyahu press conference was their refusal to endorse the two-state policy doctrine. This was a necessary move.

...The basic idea behind the two-state paradigm is that the establishment of a PLO state is a precondition for winning the war against Islamic terrorism.
Any different view is Islamophobia to western self-appointed "elites"
...Amazingly then, to a significant degree, the survival of both leaders is tied up with their success in keeping their promises to their voters and defeating their foes ‐ domestic and foreign.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 02/18/2017 04:29 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  That Carolyn Glick is a smart, perceptive lady, always worth reading.
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/18/2017 11:50 Comments || Top||

#2  and used to buy cigars

Good man.
Posted by: Pappy || 02/18/2017 13:19 Comments || Top||

#3  My guess is that Trump accepted Flynn resignation because there was so much opposition to Flynn by the intelligent community that Flynn would never be able to accomplish anything. Not because of anything that Flynn did or didn't do.
Posted by: Seeking cure for ignorance || 02/18/2017 20:05 Comments || Top||


Trump team refutes report on proposal for National Guard immigrant roundup
[FOX] Another big news report was met with an abrupt and unequivocal denial Friday by the Trump administration ‐ this time, over an Associated Press story claiming the team was considering a plan to mobilize National Guard troops to round up illegal immigrants.

The AP cited an 11-page "draft memo" that reportedly called for tapping up to 100,000 troops to track down illegal immigrants in border and non-border states. The memo reportedly said governors in the 11 states cited in the plan could choose whether to have troops participate.

But White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer called the report "100 percent not true."

"It is false. It is irresponsible to be saying this," he said, adding there is "no effort" to use the National Guard to round up illegal immigrants.

While immigration agents have been stepping up enforcement against illegal immigrants, prompting protests from Democratic lawmakers and immigration activists, a Department of Homeland Security official also said Friday the department is "not considering mobilizing the National Guard."

The story shoot-down comes after President Trump held an extraordinary, marathon press conference Thursday during which he repeatedly accused the media of spreading "fake" news.
Posted by: Besoeker || 02/18/2017 02:51 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Will this mean my 'Ancestry.com Mobile Resident Validation Labs' concept is a no-go as well ?
Posted by: Besoeker || 02/18/2017 3:00 Comments || Top||

#2  It's a "draft memo", which means somebody not in the Trump government typed it up and 'released' it to the press.

The 'memo' is fake news, possible a psych-op by the liberal socialist left.
Posted by: Seeking cure for ignorance || 02/18/2017 4:43 Comments || Top||

#3  "Palestinian baby's liver pate on rye crackers was served at Trump-Netanyahu meeting"
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 02/18/2017 5:00 Comments || Top||

#4  But, but, but...it's a great idea!
Posted by: Skidmark || 02/18/2017 9:49 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
When President Obama's National Security Advisor Lied, The Media Laughed
[TheFederalist] Buried deep beneath the Michael Flynn hysteria this week was Judicial Watch’s release of newly obtained State Department documents related to the Benghazi terrorist attack on September 11, 2012. One email confirms--again--that the Obama administration knew the day after the attack it was not a random act of violence stemming from an anti-Muslim video. That was the excuse shamefully propagated by top Obama administration officials (including the president himself) and swallowed whole by a media establishment desperate to help Obama win re-election six weeks later.

According to the summary of a call on September 12, 2012 between State Department Under-Secretary Patrick Kennedy and several congressional staffers, Kennedy was asked if the attack came under cover of protest: "No this was a direct breaching attack," he answered. Kennedy also denied the attack was coordinated with the protests in Cairo over the video: "Attack in Cairo was a demonstration. There were no weapons shown or used. A few cans of spray paint."

It’s somewhat ironic--galling?--that this email was disclosed the same day the anti-Trump universe was spinning into the stratosphere over Flynn’s resignation as President Trump’s national security advisor. It begs for a little trip down memory lane, to a kinder, gentler time when the media gave a great big pass to another national security advisor in the days after four Americans, including an ambassador, were murdered in Libya by Islamic terrorists under her watch.

Lying to Us Only Matters If We Dislike You
Fun fact: While Trump press secretary Sean Spicer fielded 55 questions on February 14 related to the Flynn debacle, Obama’s press secretary Jay Carney received only 13 questions from reporters on September 12, 2012, three of which were set-ups to blast Mitt Romney’s criticism of the administration after the attack. 55 to 13.
Continues.
Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspiracy || 02/18/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:


India-Pakistan
The ban on fun
[DAWN] WHEN we are being hit by a wave of terrorist attacks, what does the government do?

Why, send the cops chasing after kite-flying kids and enforcing the ban on Valentine’s Day, of course. Never mind that we are a laughing stock around the world, with cartoons showing armed coppers grabbing red balloons with hearts painted on them.

You’d think with so much death and destruction caused by jihadists, our judges and police force would have their hands full. But never let it be said that we don’t have our priorities right: clearly, the danger from young men and women giving each other chocolates and Valentine’s cards is far greater than that posed by vicious killers.
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Staying the course after Sehwan
[DAWN] THE mind-numbing, soul-destroying Sehwan tragedy has left so many so debilitated and bereft that even an expression of outrage seems a big ask. Lal Shahbaz Qalandar’s shrine painted crimson with the blood of devotees brought together by their love of the Divine. It could not have happened.

They were engaged in dhammal, a devotional dance performed as an expression of love in a trance-like state. But in our beloved, yet blighted, land, that was enough to invite carnage. I can’t even begin to imagine the pain of those who lost loved ones.

My own reaction was simple as I tried to sit down and do the weekly ritual of writing this. Chuck it. What’s the point? Yes, what is actually the point of saying the same thing over and over when there is nobody listening, when there are no takers for what you are offering?
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Attack on a place of peace
[DAWN] THE terrorist violence unleashed across the county culminated on Thursday with a devastating attack on the shrine of Lal Shahbaz Qalandar in Sehwan, Sindh. The country is at war. While high officials of the state have vowed to take the fight to the bully boyz and Lions of Islam with renewed vigour, it is apparent that an urgent overhaul is needed in the state’s approach. From the scale and geographical spread of the recent attacks across the length and breadth of the country, it appears that myrmidon networks have either been rebuilt or that they were not depleted to the extent claimed by the state in the first place. The two metrics of anti-militancy success most touted by the state were the overall decline in terrorist incidents and the number of bully boyz killed. While eye-catching, those numbers conceal a great deal about the extent of myrmidon activity, particularly the network of facilitation that hides attackers, and arms and helps them to reach their targets. So, the first thing that should be determined is why the recent wave of bombings, whether deliberately coordinated or opportunistically coincidental, is taking place. A fierce response by the state must be rooted in an honest, accurate assessment of the militancy problem in its latest manifestation.

Unsurprisingly, the military leadership has turned instantly to Afghanistan and the problem of anti-Pakistain militancy sanctuaries there. There will almost certainly be some evidence linking at least some of the recent attacks to myrmidon leaders and fighters in the Pak-Afghan border region; bully boyz invariably congregate and are concentrated in areas where the state’s influence is relatively scarce. But the reactive nature of the Pak demand to capture or eliminate bully boyz is familiar and worrying. The Afghan government and US forces in that country can surely do more to prevent anti-Pakistain bully boyz from operating on Afghan soil, but it appears to be a policy problem tied to the overall issue of militancy in the region. Pakistain cannot and should not accept the current state of affairs and the indifference that Kabul
...the capital of Afghanistan. Home to continuous fighting from 1992 to 1996 between the forces of would-be strongman and Pak ISI/Jamaat-e-Islami sock puppet Gulbuddin Hekmayar and the Northern Alliance, a period which won Hek the title Most Evil Man in the World and didn't do much for the reputations of the Northern Alliance guys either....
has shown towards its core concerns. Afghanistan must be made to understand and accept that the fight against militancy is a common war that requires regional effort and coordination. Yet, does Pakistain truly make the diplomatic and security effort needed to persuade Afghanistan in what amount to peaceful interruptions between waves of violence? Six months from today, will Pak officials be as determined to seek and win Kabul’s cooperation?
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Science & Technology
Proximity to clogged highways could increase risk of Alzheimer's, dementia (Video)
Exposure to urban lifestyle contributes to insanity? Who knew ?
Posted by: Besoeker || 02/18/2017 08:43 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  One wonders whether this is one of those tiny preliminary studies whose conclusion will be reversed by additional research. One is comforted by the thought, however, that another scientist's family will not go hungry for the duration of the follow-up grant.
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/18/2017 12:08 Comments || Top||

#2  This explains California.
Posted by: charger || 02/18/2017 12:09 Comments || Top||

#3  The study, which tracked roughly 6.6 million people for more than a decade, could not determine whether pollution is directly harmful to the brain. The increased dementia risk could also be a knock-on effect of respiratory and cardiac problems caused by traffic fumes or due to other unhealthy life-style factors associated with living in built-up urban environments.
Posted by: Pappy || 02/18/2017 13:21 Comments || Top||

#4  Maybe it's the noise & vibration.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 02/18/2017 15:13 Comments || Top||

#5  Maybe people with mental damage have trouble earning enough money to live in better neighborhoods.
Posted by: Glenmore || 02/18/2017 15:37 Comments || Top||

#6  "Earning money" is so 1890's. Let them borrow instead.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 02/18/2017 16:49 Comments || Top||

#7  Other studies have shown insanity is hereditary. Parents get it from their kids.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 02/18/2017 16:49 Comments || Top||

#8  It's on the internetz! [whispers]It's all true![/whispers]
Multi-nasal snorts and belly laugh.
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839 || 02/18/2017 18:04 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Dr. Hendrik Verwoerd: Why He Still Matters, 50 years on.
Selected Excerpt: [American Renaissance] "I must warn you that there are people who become envious when they look into another man’s garden. If they see a large tree full of fruit there, then they say: ’We want to have it.’ The man who attempts or desires to steal from another man’s garden, however, always forgets to take care of his own. While he leans over the fence and looks and looks, he forgets to water his own tree. He forgets to spray against insects, and when he turns around, he discovers that the branches are withered and the fruit isn’t there or is inedible. . . Therefore you must not look with envious eyes to the more developed tree of the whites, because then you will neglect your own little tree that one day will be a great tree too. It has often happened that, when one person covets another’s property, they come to blows. Meanwhile, the thing that they both want to possess falls apart or turns rotten! Or the axe can be used to cut down the tree, and then no one has any fruit! We mustn’t be like that in South Africa. Let’s take the trees of separate development, and each care for his own tree."
Don't neglect the comments section.
Posted by: Besoeker || 02/18/2017 03:16 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I prefer to jump over my back yard fence & steal my own vegetables.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 02/18/2017 7:21 Comments || Top||

#2  Definitely something to be said for U-pick (picking your own).
Posted by: Besoeker || 02/18/2017 8:06 Comments || Top||

#3  Just hire politicians to steal for you. Increase taxes on more fruitful trees, Kelo your neighbors land with the better trees, regulate who can and can not have fruit trees on their property, etc.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/18/2017 9:14 Comments || Top||

#4  It's South Africa. If you're ANC, you get your own tree but the Party gets twenty.
Posted by: Pappy || 02/18/2017 13:16 Comments || Top||


Give it a chance
Good analogy about Muslim colonists.
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NY: As refugee contractors begin to run out of federal money, they turn to state legislatures looking for millions
[RefugeeSettlementWatch] We told you earlier this morning that refugee contracting agencies (see list below) are closing some of their satellite offices.

The UN/US Refugee Admissions Program is numbers-driven since refugees arrive in the US with federal funding attached to each one--administration of that money (your money) is left to the ’non-profit’ resettlement agencies. As the Trump Administration cuts the numbers, there is commensurate reduction in funding for non-profit groups!

Here we learn in New York that the federal contractors who operate in the state are looking to state taxpayers to make up their loss of federal funding.

Why aren’t they out raising private money from all of the ’humanitarians’ they claim want this program?

If you live in New York state you better let your state legislators know what you think!

From the Poughkeepsie Journal (hat tip:Jim):

ALBANY ‐ Democratic lawmakers on Wednesday called for a $12 million boost in state funding for upstate’s refugee resettlement agencies.
[snip]
Be sure to keep an eye out in your state for the legislature or state assembly to try to slip funding in for non-profit groups that should have been raising private money (for their ’religious charitable’ work) for decades!

Here are the nine major federal contracting agencies now desperate for more of your money:

Church World Service (CWS)
Ethiopian Community Development Council (ECDC) (secular)
Episcopal Migration Ministries (EMM)
Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society (HIAS)
International Rescue Committee (IRC) (secular)
US Committee for Refugees and Immigrants (USCRI) (secular)
Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Services (LIRS)
United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB)
World Relief Corporation (WR)
Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspiracy || 02/18/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Hat in hand, eh? Here is a training video for when funds get low.

Posted by: Thinetle Spains4134 || 02/18/2017 1:56 Comments || Top||



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Sat 2017-02-18
  Breaking: Blind Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman Dies in Prison
Fri 2017-02-17
  At least 70 dead as bomb rips through Lal Shahbaz shrine in Sehwan, Sindh
Thu 2017-02-16
  Iran's Rouhani in Kuwait to soothe Gulf ties
Wed 2017-02-15
  Report: Turkey arrests alleged Reina nightclub attack planner
Tue 2017-02-14
  Islamic State leadership targeted in air strike, Baghdadi fate unclear: Iraqi military
Mon 2017-02-13
  Tahrir al-Sham: Al-Qaeda's latest incarnation in Syria
Sun 2017-02-12
  72 convicted of terrorism from 'Trump 7' mostly Muslim countries
Sat 2017-02-11
  Queens ISIS wannabe pleads guilty to attacking FBI agent with a knife in the name of the terror group
Fri 2017-02-10
  Members of UK sex grooming gang face deportation to Pakistan
Thu 2017-02-09
  Man sentenced to 30 years for ISIS support in Texas shooting
Wed 2017-02-08
  100 Syrian Refugees Rush into Country After Seattle Judge Halts Trump Executive Order
Tue 2017-02-07
  Firing in Afghan consulate in Karachi leaves diplomat dead
Mon 2017-02-06
  Senior Hamas Commander Dies in ‘Work Accident’
Sun 2017-02-05
  Syrian Democratic Forces launch new anti-ISIS operation in eastern Raqqa
Sat 2017-02-04
  Louvre terror attack: Egyptian man, 'who arrived in France in January' shot five times after attacking soldier with machete


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