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Arabia
Respecting diversity is key to world peace: MWL chief
[ARABNEWS] Intolerance toward others and the wrong thinking which does not believe in diversity or freedom of choice is responsible for global conflicts, a conference of religious and cultural leaders in Vienna heard on Monday.

The event was organized by the King Abdullah bin Abdul Aziz Center for Interreligious and Intercultural Dialogue.

Speaking at the opening session of the conference, the secretary-general of the Moslem World League (MWL), Mohammed bin Abdul Karim al-Issa, stressed the importance of respecting cultural and religious diversity to ensure peace in the world. The MWL chief said: "The religious and cultural conflict is due to a wrong thinking which does not believe, to start with, in the Creator’s way of diversity or the right of choice.

"The values of justice and ethics are not subject to certain theories or contexts and they have many factors in common. In the context of our present diversity, we call for preserving the values of our common humanity, which do not reflect any specific religious, intellectual or cultural characteristic."

The MWL official said: "The origin of religions has nothing to do with unjust wars and persecutions practiced in their name which have hindered the march of knowledge and enlightenment in the East and West."

He said: "Islam (and we are speaking here on behalf of the Moslem peoples belonging to the MWL) preserved the dignity of human beings, guaranteed their freedom of choice, and guided them to morality."

He also noted: "We don’t assume that all people should follow one religion, ideology or philosophy. Islam teaches us that it is impossible, and logic confirms this.

"We call for the preservation of our common human values which do not just articulate a religious, intellectual or cultural property; rather, it expresses our humanity."
Posted by: Fred || 02/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Saudi Arabia

#1  lots of diversity in Saudi Arabia isn't there
Posted by: lord garth || 02/27/2018 0:04 Comments || Top||

#2  Just keep repeating the "LIE" until it becomes accepted truth.
Posted by: Roth LaDoad || 02/27/2018 0:35 Comments || Top||

#3  Knock knock....
Posted by: newc || 02/27/2018 2:15 Comments || Top||

#4  That's why my bet for Ruler of the World is Trudeau of Canada.

Onward. Transgendered Newts of the World Unite.
Posted by: Spanky Munster7573 || 02/27/2018 5:26 Comments || Top||

#5  Right - let Muslims/Progressives/Various groups of "oppressed" start respecting diversity of opinion. Or, we'll show them there's a diversity of hells.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 02/27/2018 5:33 Comments || Top||

#6  Certainly continues to be at odds with the Saudi Wahhabists. From the Wikipedia article on Wahhabism, history section, we have this quote from Crown Prince MbS:

“What happened in the last 30 years is not Saudi Arabia. What happened in the region in the last 30 years is not the Middle East. After the Iranian revolution in 1979, people wanted to copy this model in different countries, one of them is Saudi Arabia. We didn’t know how to deal with it. And the problem spread all over the world. Now is the time to get rid of it”.

Fine words all. Let’s see if they continue to walk the talk.
Posted by: KBK || 02/27/2018 9:42 Comments || Top||

#7  What did he say in Arabic?
Posted by: Raj || 02/27/2018 10:02 Comments || Top||

#8  Do other "diverse groups" have to respect me in return, or is this only a one-way thing?

Do I have to respect their hatred for diversity?
Posted by: gorb || 02/27/2018 13:24 Comments || Top||

#9  The Check Valve of Diversity.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 02/27/2018 14:20 Comments || Top||


Mubarak al-Thani says will return to Qatar to ‘cleanse’ it from ruling regime
Oh dear. That sounds uncomfortable.
[ENGLISH.ALARABIYA.NET] Sheikh Mubarak bin Khalifa al-Thani, who was recently revealed as a figure opposed to the ruling al-Thani family in Qatar
...an emirate on the east coast of the Arabian Peninsula. It sits on some really productive gas and oil deposits, which produces the highest per capita income in the world. They piss it all away on religion, financing the Moslem Brotherhood and several al-Qaeda affiliates. Home of nutbag holy manYusuf al-Qaradawi...
, said that the people of the Gulf state are living in fear due to the oppression of the government.

He told Asharq al-Awsat that he seeks to return to Qatar, along with other opposition figures, in order to "cleanse the country of the ruling regime and its reckless policies."

Sheikh Mubarak currently resides in the Saudi capital Riyadh and took part in an opposition meeting in December that brought together over 20 members of the al-Thani family.

He said that several members of the family had contacted him to express their interest in joining efforts to "save Qatar from the policies of the current government."

"These figures are unhappy with the developments in the country and they fear over the safety of their sons and properties," he added.

Qatar’s deteriorating living conditions
Asked by Asharq al-Awsat to assess the situation in Qatar seven months after the diplomatic and economic boycott of Soddy Arabia
...a kingdom taking up the bulk of the Arabian peninsula. Its primary economic activity involves exporting oil and soaking Islamic rubes on the annual hajj pilgrimage. The country supports a large number of princes in whatcha might call princely splendor. When the oil runs out the rest of the world is going to kick sand in the Soddy national face...
, Bahrain, Egypt and the United Arab Emirates, Sheikh Mubarak replied: "None of the Qatari people are living comfortably."

The majority of the people are concerned about their livelihood and none of them want to stray away from their brothers in the Gulf, he stressed. They are paying the price for the government’s reckless behavior, which has isolated it from its brothers.

He spoke about the high cost of living in Qatar, saying that the Gulf crisis led to a drop in prices, which led to economic stagnation. Real estate properties are vacant and trade between Qatar and the Gulf has come to a halt.

As the complaints over the living conditions mount, the fear also rises among the people, stated Sheikh Mubarak. They are concerned with the successive international decisions against the Qatari government given its rejection of the demands of the four boycotting countries.

The countries announced their boycott against Doha in June over its support and financing of terrorism.

Sheikh Mubarak revealed that some people have been tossed in the clink
Into the paddy wagon wit' yez!
by the Qatari regime, while some members of the al-Thani family have had their properties and assets seized.

Posted by: Fred || 02/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Qatar (MB)

#1  Te Lone Ranger is on his way. Just as soon as he can put on his "thingy".
Posted by: Spanky Munster7573 || 02/27/2018 5:35 Comments || Top||


Russia vetoes UN draft resolution pressuring Iran over Yemen
[ENGLISH.ALARABIYA.NET] Russia vetoed Monday a UN draft resolution presented by Britannia that would have pressured Iran over its failure to block supplies of missiles to Yemen’s Houthi
...a Zaidi Shia insurgent group operating in Yemen. They have also been referred to as the Believing Youth. Hussein Badreddin al-Houthi is said to be the spiritual leader of the group and most of the military leaders are his relatives. The Yemeni government has accused the Houthis of having ties to the Iranian government, which wouldn't suprise most of us. The group has managed to gain control over all of Saada Governorate and parts of Amran, Al Jawf and Hajjah Governorates. Its slogan is God is Great, Death to America™, Death to Israel, a curse on the Jews ...
rebels.

The text, strongly supported by the United States, won 11 favorable votes at the 15-member Security Council but was blocked by Russia’s veto. China and Kazakhstan abstained, while Bolivia also voted against the measure.

Nine votes and no vetoes from the five permanent council members ‐ Britannia, La Belle France, China, Russia and the United States ‐ are required to adopt resolutions at the Security Council.

After the veto, the council unanimously adopted a Russian-drafted measure that extended for one year the sanctions regime against Yemen, but that text made no mention of Iran.

Britannia had sought to include in its measure an expression of "particular concern" from the council over a UN report that found Iran had violated the 2015 arms embargo on Yemen.

The report by a UN panel of experts in January concluded that Iran was in violation after determining that missiles fired by the Houthis at Soddy Arabia
...a kingdom taking up the bulk of the Arabian peninsula. Its primary economic activity involves exporting oil and soaking Islamic rubes on the annual hajj pilgrimage. The country supports a large number of princes in whatcha might call princely splendor. When the oil runs out the rest of the world is going to kick sand in the Soddy national face...
last year were made in Iran.

Posted by: Fred || 02/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran


Saudi king replaces military chiefs in shake-up
[bbc] Saudi Arabia has sacked its top military commanders, including the chief of staff, in a series of late-night royal decrees.

Saudi King Salman also replaced the heads of the ground forces and air defenses.

The news was published by the official Saudi Press Agency (SPA), but no reason for the sackings was given.

They come as the war in Yemen, where a Saudi-led coalition is fighting rebels, is nearing the end of its third year.

Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, who is also the defense minister, is believed to be behind various recent shake-ups in the country.

The service of the chief of staff, General Abdul Rahman bin Saleh al-Bunyan, is among those "terminated", said the SPA.

Various military figures have already been promoted to replace those sacked.

A series of political appointments were announced at the same time, including the rare appointment of a female deputy minister of labor and social development, Tamadar bint Yousef al-Ramah.

Prince Turki bin Talal was appointed new deputy governor of the south-west Asir province. He is the brother of billionaire Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, who was detained in the anti-corruption drive and released two months later.

Times of Israel has more detailed info
“Termination of the services of General Abdul Rahman bin Saleh al-Bunyan, Chief of Staff,” the official Saudi Press Agency (SPA) announced, adding that Fayyad al-Ruwaili had been appointed as his replacement.


Al-Bunyan was retired after he inaugurated an arms exhibition this week in Riyadh by the Saudi Arabian Military Industries (SAMI), the state-owned defense company, which has drawn several global defense firms.

“A military transformation is underway in Saudi Arabia,” Theodore Karasik, a senior adviser at the consultancy Gulf States Analytics, told AFP.

Saudi Gazette

RIYADH – Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Salman appointed Prince Badr Bin Sultan as new emir of Al-Jouf, replacing Prince Fahd Bin Badr.

In a series of royal decrees issued on Monday evening, the King made several key appointments of civil and military officials.

Prince Fahd Bin Badr was appointed adviser to Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques in the rank of minister.

Prince Turki Bin Talal was named deputy emir of Asir and Prince Faisal Bin Fahd Bin Muqrin deputy emir of Hail.

Dr. Tamader Bint Yousef Al-Rammah has been appointed deputy minister of labor and social development.

Lt. Gen. Fayad Al-Ruwaili, deputy chief of staff, has been promoted to general and appointed new chief of staff.

The service of the Chief of Staff Gen. Abdurahman Al-Bunyan was ended on retirement and he was appointed as adviser at the Royal Court.

Prince Faisal Bin Turki has been appointed as adviser at the Royal Court in the rank of minister and Prince Sultan Bin Ahmad as adviser at the Royal Court.

New ministers
Khaled Bayari -assistant minister of defense for executive affairs

Dr. Bandar Al-Mushari -assistant minister of interior for technical affairs

Ahmad Qattan -minister of state for the affairs of African states

Sheikh Saad Al-Saif -deputy minister of justice

Abdullah Abu Thunain -deputy minister of labor and social development

Faisal Al-Ibrahim, deputy minister of economy and planning

Khaled Al-Shunaif
i –assistant minister of economy and planning

Muhammad Al-Mohanna
new undersecretary at the Ministry of Interior for security affairs, replacing Hamad Al-Khalaf

Deputy Minister of Labor Ahmad Al-Humaidan was relieved

Deputy Minister of Interior and Member of the Council of Economic and Development Affairs Ahmad Bin Muhammad Al-Salem was relieved of his duties.

Muhammad Al-Mutairi – new secretary general of the Shoura Council

Adnan Al-Humaidan -new president of Jeddah University

Shalaan Bin Rajih Shalaan, deputy public prosecutor

Abdul Aziz Al-Zoum – governor of General Authority for Competition

Mayors
Tariq Al-Faris -Riyadh region

Muhammad Al-Quwaihes –Makkah, replacing Osama Al-Bar

Reshuffle of defense forces command
The King made major reshuffles at the command of the defense forces. These include the following:

Lt. Gen. Muhammad Suhaim, commander of the Air Defense Forces, ordered to retire.

Lt. Gen. Fahd Bin Turki, commander of the Land Forces, relieved of the post and was appointed as commander of the Joint Forces.

Maj. Gen. Mutlaq Al-Azaimie promoted to Lt. Gen. and appointed as deputy chief of staff.

Maj. Gen. Jarallah Al-Olwait promoted to Lt. Gen. and appointed as commander of the Strategic Missiles Force.

Maj. Gen. Fahd Al-Mutair promoted to Lt. Gen. and appointed as commander of the Land Forces.

Maj. Gen. Muzaid Al-Amr promoted to Lt. Gen. and appointed as commander of Air Defense Forces.

Maj. Gen. Turki Bin Bandar promoted to Lt. Gen. and appointed as commander of the Air Forces.


This article starring:
Abdul Aziz Al-Zoum
Abdullah Abu Thunain
Adnan Al-Humaidan
Ahmad Al-Humaidan
Ahmad Bin Muhammad Al-Salem
Ahmad Qattan
Dr. Bandar Al-Mushari
emir of Al-Jouf
Fahd Al-Mutair
Fahd Bin Badr
Fahd Bin Turki
Faisal Al-Ibrahim
Faisal Bin Fahd Bin Muqrin
Jarallah Al-Olwait
Khaled Al-Shunaif
Khaled Bayari
Lt. Gen. Muhammad Suhaim,
Muhammad Al-Mohanna
Muhammad Al-Mutairi
Muhammad Al-Quwaihes
Mutlaq Al-Azaimie
Muzaid Al-Amr
Osama Al-Bar
Shalaan Bin Rajih Shalaan
Sheikh Saad Al-Saif
Tariq Al-Faris
Turki Bin Bandar
Posted by: 3dc || 02/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Saudi Arabia

#1  That's a lot of relieving and appointing.
Posted by: Skidmark || 02/27/2018 1:40 Comments || Top||

#2  This is going rather well if you ask me.
Much more to go tho.

Pray for him as he visits Great Britain this week.

He may be a good Leader.
Posted by: newc || 02/27/2018 2:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Very thorough, 3dc. It’s important to know the players.
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/27/2018 10:02 Comments || Top||

#4  The Yemen adventure not going too well?

I recall Lincoln firing a lot of generals in order to find the ones that could deliver.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/27/2018 11:11 Comments || Top||

#5  More generals than privates?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 02/27/2018 11:17 Comments || Top||

#6  Trump needs to do the same with our armed forces. We have a lot of politicians in uniform and not a lot of fighters in the flag ranks these days.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 02/27/2018 13:02 Comments || Top||

#7  Saudi is building a war cabinet
Posted by: Skidmark || 02/27/2018 18:59 Comments || Top||


Iran blames Yemen war on British, US arms exports
[DAWN] Iran on Monday rejected Western claims that it was arming Houthis in Yemen, saying the conflict was instead the result of British and the US arms supplies to Soddy Arabia
...a kingdom taking up the bulk of the Arabian peninsula. Its primary economic activity involves exporting oil and soaking Islamic rubes on the annual hajj pilgrimage. The country supports a large number of princes in whatcha might call princely splendor. When the oil runs out the rest of the world is going to kick sand in the Soddy national face...
"The Islamic Theocratic Republic of Iran wants an end to the aggression in Yemen
...an area of the Arabian Peninsula sometimes mistaken for a country. It is populated by more antagonistic tribes and factions than you can keep track of. Except for a tiny handfull of Jews everthing there is very Islamic...
by Saudi Arabia," said foreign ministry front man Bahram Ghasemi in comments carried by Iran's al-Alam news site.

"What is happening in Yemen is the result of the export of British and American weapons to Saudi Arabia and such behaviour is unacceptable," he added.

A Saudi-led coalition has been bombing Yemen almost daily since 2015 as it attempts to dislodge Houthis who seized control of the capital, in a conflict that has triggered the world's worst humanitarian crisis according to the United Nations
...where theory meets practice and practice loses...
A UN report last month said Tehran had breached an arms embargo by failing to stop weapons reaching the Huthis. It said a missile fired into Saudi Arabia last year by the Huthis was made in Iran, though it was unable to definitively identify the supplier.

A UN resolution drafted by Britannia called for "additional measures" against Iran over the report. "This resolution, if adopted, would provide support to the aggressor," said Ghasemi, referring to Saudi Arabia. "Such resolutions do not help the situation in Yemen and are an effort by the British government to use international mechanisms to create a supportive climate for the aggressor."

Russia, which is allied with Iran in the Syria war, maintains that the UN report's findings are not conclusive enough to justify action against Iran.

It presented a rival resolution on Saturday, extending sanctions on Yemen but without any reference to possible action targeting Tehran.

Posted by: Fred || 02/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  Do they attend donk seminars to practice saying this stuff with a straight face?
Posted by: G. Whotha5763 || 02/27/2018 12:43 Comments || Top||


Britain
Islamist and Far Right extremists should be treated like paedophiles and have their children taken away, says Britain's top counter-terror officer
Posted by: Skidmark || 02/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Moslem Colonists

#1  LOL but not far left. You can't make this shit up, people.
Posted by: Herb McCoy7309 || 02/27/2018 0:27 Comments || Top||

#2  Where's the demarcation point between "Far Right"[tm] and just right enough?
Posted by: Roth LaDoad || 02/27/2018 0:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Who is lukewarm instead of cold?
Posted by: newc || 02/27/2018 2:16 Comments || Top||

#4  Islamist should be expelled along with any 'chain' family members (to extend an old tradition, except if its the family members who turn him/her in).
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/27/2018 9:27 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Russian TV airs ARMA-3 video game as Syria war footage
A tribute to Russia's armed forces on the country's flagship news programme mistakenly used footage from a computer game to illustrate military action in Syria.

Eagle-eyed viewers of the weekly Voskresnoye Vremya programme on state-run Channel One TV noticed that gun-sight footage of a truck being attacked was actually from the Arma-3 tactical computer game.

Sunday's report was a celebration of those who serve in Russia's armed forces, to commemorate last week's Defender of the Fatherland Day, praising "those who value duty and honour above their own lives".

Among those it honoured was Roman Filippov, the pilot of a Su-25 ground attack aircraft who was killed in action in Syria at the beginning of February.

It was during this fast-moving sequence showing Su-25 "Frogfoot" jets in action, that the game footage appeared and was quickly spotted by users of the social network Pikabu.
Posted by: Skidmark || 02/27/2018 01:50 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Theprogramme is aimed at the viewers of an older age, 40-50 years. They most surely don't play Arma and would not notice the difference,"

The hell you say!
Posted by: badanov || 02/27/2018 12:39 Comments || Top||


Europe
Syrian Kurd leader arrested in Prague on Turkey’s request
[DAWN] Authorities in the Czech Republic detained one of the most prominent leaders of the Syrian Kurds at the request of The Sick Man of Europe Turkey
...the decaying remnant of the Ottoman Empire....
, officials said on Sunday, as Ankara pushes a military operation against Kurdish militia in northern Syria.

Saleh Moslem, long a figurehead of the Syrian Kurdish movement, was detained on Saturday night at an upmarket Prague hotel, Czech and Ottoman Turkish officials said.

Ottoman Turkish officials said Ankara was already working to have Moslem, the former co-chair of the main Syrian Kurdish political movement, the Democratic Union Party (PYD), extradited to face terror charges in Turkey.

The arrest comes as Turkey presses a military operation against the Kurdish People’s Protection Units (YPG) militia ‐ the military wing of the PYD ‐ in the enclave of Afrin in northern Syria.

Ankara sees the YPG and PYD as the Syrian branch of the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), which for over three decades has waged an insurgency against the Ottoman Turkish state and is banned by Turkey, the US and the European Union
...the successor to the Holy Roman Empire, only without the Hapsburgs and the nifty uniforms and the dancing...
as a terror group.

Moslem is wanted by Turkey over a February 2016 bombing in Ankara that killed 29 people that the Ottoman Turkish authorities blamed on Kurdish Death Eaters. He has been charged in the case and faces 30 life sentences if found guilty. Moslem has rubbished the charges.

"The PYD chief has been placed in durance vile
Drop the rod and step away witcher hands up!
," President Sultan Recep Tayyip Erdogan the First
... Turkey's version of Mohammed Morsi but they voted him back in so they deserve him. It's a sin, a shame, and a felony to insult the president of Turkey...
told cheering crowds in the southern city of Sanliurfa. "Our hope is the Czech Republic will hand him over to Turkey."

Czech police confirmed a 67-year-old foreigner was being held after being detained on Saturday based on a Ottoman Turkish Interpol notice.

"Ankara Interpol staff were informed of the arrest. The police will take the standard steps in line with the law," it said.
Posted by: Fred || 02/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Sublime Porte

#1  Czech court releases Syrian Kurd leader Saleh Muslim.

In 2016 CJTFOIR Combined Joint Task Force Operation Inherent Resolve discovered an assassination plan and the identity of the assassins who were assigned to kill Saleh Moslem by turkey and had issued a warning to Ankara.
Posted by: Ulaigum Ebbineng7056 || 02/27/2018 20:15 Comments || Top||

#2  GOOD!
Posted by: Frank G || 02/27/2018 21:22 Comments || Top||


Denmark will DOUBLE punishments for crimes committed in ghettos under new proposals
[DailyMail]
  • 'Special punishment zones' will be set up in Danish ghettos under the new plans

  • Punishments could be doubled for certain crimes including theft and vandalism

  • Police will decide which underprivileged areas will be subject to new measures
Posted by: Skidmark || 02/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Moslem Colonists

#1  That's racist!

So?
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/27/2018 11:08 Comments || Top||

#2  So, that's TWO shakes of the finger?
Posted by: Skidmark || 02/27/2018 11:37 Comments || Top||

#3  Serve a normal prison term as dictated by Danish law and remove the offenders hand as dictated by Sharia Law.

You want it both ways you can have it both ways.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 02/27/2018 12:12 Comments || Top||

#4  If only the original punishment was to beat the perpetrator half to death, this would be a good solution.
Posted by: gorb || 02/27/2018 13:30 Comments || Top||

#5  Won't make any difference if they are no-go zones
Posted by: newc || 02/27/2018 16:44 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Watch the water. Q
[8ch.net] In 2014, the Environmental Protection Agency was worried enough about fentanyl and carfentanil (A unit of carfentanil is 100 times as potent as the same amount of fentanyl, 5,000 times as potent as a unit of heroin and 10,000 times as potent as a unit of morphine) being used by terrorists that it published instructions for taking samples of the substances,
including from drinking water,
following "homeland security events."

Deadly drug fentanyl has been tested as chemical weapon by military for decades

Boston authorities said they seized more than 33 pounds of fentanyl--enough to kill millions of people--in connection with one of Massachusetts' biggest drug busts ever.

In announcing the results of a six-month wiretap probe called "Operation High Hopes," prosecutors said the synthetic opioid was being sold on the street by a drug gang with links to Mexico's notorious Sinaloa Cartel, the drug organization once led by Joaquín "El Chapo" Guzmán.

"I want to be clear about the size and scope here," District Attorney Daniel Conley said at a news conference Thursday. "Massachusetts' fentanyl trafficking statute covers quantities greater than 10 grams. That threshold represents less than 1/1000 of the quantity we've taken off the street."

33 pounds of fentanyl -- enough to wipe out Massachusetts -- seized in Boston

(CNN) -- Two men have been sentenced to prison for possessing nearly 100 pounds of the drug fentanyl -- enough to kill the entire population of New Jersey and New York City, officials said.

Fentanyl is a powerful opioid that is 50 to 100 times more potent than morphine and 30 to 50 times more potent than heroin, and a dose as small as a quarter of a milligram can be fatal.

New Jersey authorities said that the 45 kilos of fentanyl, seized in June 2017, contained more than 18 million lethal doses. It was the largest seizure ever in the state.

"The 100 pounds of fentanyl trafficked into our state by these drug dealers could have generated enough lethal doses to kill the entire populations of New Jersey and New York City combined," New Jersey Attorney General Gurbir Grewal said in a statement.

2 men caught with enough Fentanyl to poison all of NYC, New Jersey
So my question is, why is more fentanyl then could possibly be sold on the street being brought into the USA? To poison the water supply?
Posted by: G. Whotha5763 || 02/27/2018 10:57 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Narcos

#1  The forces of darkness from Islam have some working agreements with various drug cartels for development of revenue streams for festivities all over the world. It does make one pause to realize the vast logistics capabilities of the cartels to move large quantities of about anything world wide.

A terror group could use the cartels to move stuff for them to target areas...then the islamists can do their holy warrior thing and kill thousands...if not millions.

I am always afraid of how easily it is for the cartels to get things into the US. I worry that the vector for a nuclear device would be through a cartel operation and not by sea or by air. Securing the borders is essential.

All of this is a catastrophe waiting to happen. The groups opposing border security are playing with the lives of millions. I expect, every day, to turn on the news to see that a major city in the US has either completely disappeared or been rendered uninhabitable with millions of casualties.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 02/27/2018 12:59 Comments || Top||

#2  Anybody against securing the border and proper screening of imports ought to be forced to be continuous water tasters right where it comes out of the purification plants.

This stuff can even be pushed back into the water supply at any house, and anyone downstream is toast.

And dealers ought to get the death penalty.
Posted by: gorb || 02/27/2018 13:21 Comments || Top||

#3 
I expect, every day, to turn on the news to see that a

That is why I turn on my TV once a day for a few minutes to check for breaking news, airliners crashing into skyscrapers, that sort of thing. That is usually a once a day thing. I may not watch any more than that.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 02/27/2018 14:32 Comments || Top||

#4  Think far beyond the water supply:
The Russians may have used an aerosolized fentanyl derivative in the 2002 theater hostage crisis. 16% mortality of all exposed, even though medics rushed in right after the aerosol was released.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 02/27/2018 14:38 Comments || Top||

#5  Not many would use this to kill when there are profits to be had. Even ISIS has to pay the bills.
Posted by: Iblis || 02/27/2018 16:30 Comments || Top||

#6  16% mortality of all exposed, even though medics rushed in right after the aerosol was released.

I understand this was because they gave the doctors no information until it was too late. They could only deal with the symptoms, not the cause.
Posted by: gorb || 02/27/2018 17:05 Comments || Top||

#7  (#3 I'm am with you.) I use WeatherNation to check on FL. Panhandle weather conditions and I get my news via Drudge and Rantburg blogs.
Posted by: irishrageboy || 02/27/2018 17:30 Comments || Top||

#8  Well, thank God there was never a rash of Muslims being arrested after they broke into water treatment plants and reservoirs!
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 02/27/2018 19:00 Comments || Top||

#9  I remember so long ago SDS was prepared to dump 55 gal drums of LSD into Chicago’s water intakes. The public was assured water purification would have reduced the threat. Also so much of the water was used in residential and industrial processes other than drinking that additive dilution would have reduced any perceived effect.
Posted by: Skidmark || 02/27/2018 20:44 Comments || Top||

#10  Marines Hospitalized at Joint Base Myer After Opening Letter With Unknown Substance
Nearly a dozen people, including several Marines, at Joint Base Myer-Henderson Hall fell ill Tuesday after they opened a suspicious letter containing an unknown substance.

A gunnery sergeant opened a letter and showed it to a superior, a Pentagon official told NBC News. The two then began to feel ill. A colonel decided to evacuate a building.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 02/27/2018 20:47 Comments || Top||


Pulse nightclub shooter's widow to stand trial this week charged with helping a terror organization and obstruction of justice
[DailyMail]
  • Noor Salman, the widow of shooter Omar Mateen, will stand trial on Thursday

  • Her husband killed 49 people and injured at least 68 more on June 12, 2016

  • The gunman opened fire on party-goers inside the Pulse nightclub in Orlando

  • She is charged with supporting a terror organization and obstructing justice
Posted by: Skidmark || 02/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Islamic State

#1  Wait a minute...

Was the Pulse a terrorist attack?

Geez, I don't remember CNN presenting it way...as in a homophobe shot up a gay nightclub, not an Islamic terrorist attack.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 02/27/2018 13:04 Comments || Top||

#2  About F-ing time. Go after the father and their mosque next.

That is after hell freezes over.
Posted by: Anginelet Pholumble7873 || 02/27/2018 18:37 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
US trying to ‘embarrass’ Pakistan with terror financing list: Minister
[ARABNEWS] Pakistain’s de facto finance minister, Miftah Ismail, has brushed off concerns that economic growth will suffer because of the country’s re-inclusion on a terrorist financing watch list, and lashed out against the US for seeking to "embarrass" his nation.

Washington last week persuaded member states of the Financial Action Task Force (FATF) to place Pakistain back on the "grey list" of nations with inadequate terrorist financing or money laundering controls. Pakistain was on the list for three years, until 2015.

The diplomatic setback has sparked anger in Islamabad against the US, which championed the motion against Pakistain at the FATF meeting in Gay Paree.

It represented another blow to the worsening relationship between the uneasy allies, who have long differed on how to combat gunnies waging war in Afghanistan.

Ismail, officially the adviser on finance, revenue and economic affairs to Prime Minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi, led Pakistain’s negotiations in Gay Paree. He told Rooters that Washington did not seem genuinely eager to see Pakistain boost its terrorist financing regulations and was instead bent on humiliating the country.

"If the Americans were interested in working with us and improving our CTF (counter-terrorist financing) regulations, they would have taken the offer I was making them," Ismail said. "But their idea was just to embarrass Pakistain."

Ismail said that he urged the US to allow Pakistain until June to fix any outstanding CTF issues and ceded ground in negotiations to strike a deal, but that the US was determined to see Pakistain suffer.

US officials say Pakistain remains weak on terrorist financing prosecutions and has not done enough to combat money-raising capabilities of charities controlled by Hafiz Saeed
...founder of Lashkar-e-Taiba and its false-mustache offshoot Jamaat-ud-Dawa. The United Nations declared the JuD a terrorist organization in 2008 and Hafiz Saeed a terrorist as its leader. Hafiz, JuD and LeT are wholly-owned subsidiaries of the Pak intel apparatus, so that amounted to squat...
, whom the US has designated a terrorist.

In the run up to the FATF meeting, Pakistain sought to gain favor by seizing control of parts of Saeed’s Jamaat-ud-Dawa
...the front organization of Lashkar-e-Taiba...
(JuD) and Falah-e-Insaniat Foundation (FIF) charities, which the US terms "terrorist fronts" for Death Eater group Lashkar-e-Taiba
...the Army of the Pure, an Ahl-e-Hadith terror organization founded by Hafiz Saeed. LeT masquerades behind the Jamaat-ud-Dawa facade within Pakistain and periodically blows things up and kills people in India. Despite the fact that it is banned, always an interesting concept in Pakistain, the organization remains an blatant tool and perhaps an arm of the ISI...
(LeT).

Ismail said Pakistain's law-enforcement shortcomings are often confused for lack of desire, especially at provincial level, where coppers are poorly trained when it comes to terrorist financing legislation.

"The will is there," he added.

Pakistain hopes to be removed from the grey list in six to 12 months from June, when it will be officially placed on the watch list, Ismail added.
Posted by: Fred || 02/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  their idea was just to embarrass Pakistain

Well...,yeah.
Posted by: Skidmark || 02/27/2018 1:22 Comments || Top||

#2  Just laying all this on the table so Afghanistan can't blame US.
Let me tell you what, this list is just the start....
Posted by: newc || 02/27/2018 2:33 Comments || Top||


Petitioners urge ECP to de-notify PML-N as political party
[DAWN] A petition has been moved before the Election Commission of Pakistain (ECP) asking it to de-notify Pakistain Moslem League-Nawaz as a political party, arguing that the party was named after a person who has been disqualified by the apex court from holding any public office, DawnNews reported on Monday.

According to the Supreme Court's judgment in the controversial Election Act 2017 case, an individual disqualified under Articles 62 and 63 of the Constitution cannot serve as head of a political party.

A day after the apex court ordered the ECP to remove Nawaz Sharif
... served two non-consecutive terms as prime minister, heads the Pakistain Moslem League (Nawaz). Noted for his spectacular corruption, the 1998 Pak nuclear test, border war with India, and for being tossed by General Musharraf, then by the courts...
as president of the PML-N, Pakistain Awami Tehrik (PAT) leader Khurrum Nawaz Gandapur, Mohammad Niaz and Ibrar Hussain Raza submitted a joint application before the ECP, asking the commission to reopen an earlier petition, filed by Niaz and Raza in connection with the de-notification of Nawaz Sharif.

According to the application, a copy of which is available with DawnNews, the two petitions had asked the ECP to de-notify the PML-N in accordance with the Supreme Court verdict, declaring Sharif ineligible for holding even a party office. Subsequently, the ECP had suspended the petition while linking it to a then-pending case in the SC on the same subject.

The petitioners argued that after the apex court barred Sharif from holding a party office, the party registered in his name has also become illegal. They asked the ECP to fix the pending petition for hearing and de-notify the PML-N.

Posted by: Fred || 02/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


Pakistan may find itself on FATF blacklist after June
[DAWN] Pakistain may find itself on the blacklist of a global financial watchdog if it does not prepare a comprehensive action plan to eradicate terrorist financing by June, official sources told Dawn.

The 37-nation Financial Action Task Force (FATF) held its plenary meeting in Gay Paree last week where it placed Pakistain on a watchlist of the countries where terrorist outfits are still allowed to raise funds.

On Friday, the group issued an updated grey list, along with a statement announcing the decisions taken at the plenary session, and Pakistain was not on the list. Officials in Islamabad interpreted this as a "breather", although it’s more of a technical detail.

The grey list identifies the "jurisdictions with strategic anti-money laundering/countering the financing of terrorism deficiencies for which they have developed an action plan with the FATF". Pakistain has not yet worked out the proposed plan with the FATF and that’s why it’s not on the list.

Posted by: Fred || 02/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Gazans prepare for possible war with Israel with surprise drill
If fewer innocent human shields are harmed the next time Hamas gets stupid, that would be lovely.
[Ynet] Using instructions and information from the IDF's Home Front Command, the Gazoo Interior Ministry conducts drill, teaching schoolchildren how to seek shelter in case of Israeli attack; Hamas, one of the armed feet of the Moslem Brüderbung millipede, forces drill war scenarios on borders with Israel, Egypt.

The Gazook Interior Ministry conducted a surprise drill on Wednesday for Hamas and other security and rescue forces in the strip, using information from the IDF's Home Front Command on seeking shelter in time of attack.

The exercise, which lasted about 12 hours, drilled different scenarios of Israeli attack on the Gazoo Strip, which were based on incidents that took place during the 2014 Operation Protective Edge.

The information and instructions to the civilian population on how to locate the nearest safe space and how to evacuate children to shelters were appropriated from the IDF's Home Front Command's website and from messages it issues to the Israeli public.
Thank goodness they copied this good Israeli idea. If only they copied others.
And so, Gazook children learned that during an Israeli attack, they must go into a shelter. But because the strip doesn't have proper bomb shelters like in Israel, children are told to seek cover between four walls. They were also told to lie on the ground with their hands covering their heads.

Teachers at educational institutions in the strip drilled evacuating the students from the classrooms to a safe space in an orderly fashion, in line with the Israeli Home Front Command's guidelines.

The exercise also included different scenarios along Gazoo's borders with Egypt and Israel. Large numbers of Gazook police forces were deployed throughout the strip, while Hamas forces drilled scenarios of Israeli attacks, including ground invasion. Rescue forces, meanwhile, drilled the evacuation of maimed.
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  If fewer innocent human shields

Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 02/27/2018 3:09 Comments || Top||


Gaza hotel tiff highlights power struggle between Qatar and Egypt
It’s all too silly for words, so the article has lots of them.
[IsraelTimes] As jostling for influence intensifies, Egyptian officials reportedly refuse to stay in same accommodation as Qatari delegation

Senior Egyptian security officials who arrived in the Gazoo Strip on Sunday were forced to search for new accommodation after discovering that a Qatar
...an emirate on the east coast of the Arabian Peninsula. It sits on some really productive gas and oil deposits, which produces the highest per capita income in the world. They piss it all away on religion, financing the Moslem Brotherhood and several al-Qaeda affiliates. Home of nutbag holy manYusuf al-Qaradawi...
i envoy was staying at the same hotel.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Hamas


More than 1,000 Palestinians in Gaza died from Israeli blockade
No blame attaches to the Egyptian side of the blockade, or to Hamas? How odd.
[Al Jazeera] The Gazoo Strip's collective of charitable organizations said more than 1,000 Paleostinians have died as a result of the ongoing Israeli blockade on the coastal enclave.

The coordinator of the organizations, Ahmad al-Kurd, also said on Sunday that five premature babies born in the past few days died because of a lack of available medical treatment.

"Out of the 1,000 or so victims of the blockade, 450 died as a result of the collapse of the health situation in Gazoo, such as the lack of medical supplies and the crisis of medical referrals for outside treatment."

Gazooks continue to face a desperate situation because of the blockade with water and electricity shortages, as well as a lack of medicines and doctors unable to perform surgeries.

Kurd said the use of alternative electricity by residents of the Gazoo Strip since 2006 has caused the deaths of 100 people.

"The use of candles, firewood or generators has resulted in house fires that claimed the lives of children and adults alike," he said.

Furthermore, the number of workers who were killed in the fields of agriculture, fishing and commercial tunnels has reached 350.

Posted by: Fred || 02/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  And the poor children have no toys. When will ever end?

The Palestinian grandmothers are starving. And the alarm clocks don't work to get Dad to work at the Gaza Sewer Factory on time. Moslems just have to stand in line for a toilet and it doesn't flush anyway. Remember Jenin and never forget good old Yasser.
Posted by: Spanky Munster7573 || 02/27/2018 5:32 Comments || Top||

#2  Statistics are just a DWEM invention.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 02/27/2018 5:35 Comments || Top||

#3  No mention of the rocket attacks on the Juice and attempted terror tunnels or the Sinai attacks on the Egyptians (with arms and terrorists from Gazoo)?
Posted by: Frank G || 02/27/2018 9:37 Comments || Top||

#4  Unmentioned is why commercial tunnels exist, and what is brought through them.
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/27/2018 10:12 Comments || Top||

#5  Maybe instead of focusing on terror, they might try putting their energies and donations towards things like hospitals, waste treatment plants, things like that?

Nah.
Posted by: gorb || 02/27/2018 13:26 Comments || Top||

#6  #5

Can't spare the concrete from all the terror tunnels.
Posted by: G. Whotha5763 || 02/27/2018 13:28 Comments || Top||

#7  Do the numbers include work accidents (tunnels collapses or explosives that went off early)?
Posted by: rjschwarz || 02/27/2018 16:15 Comments || Top||

#8  Furthermore, the number of workers who were killed in the fields of agriculture, fishing and commercial tunnels has reached 350.

Tunnel collapses most definitely, rjschwarz. Explosives that responded to Allah’s will to kill their makers probably come under the lack of medical supplies.
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/27/2018 22:15 Comments || Top||


Palestinian faction Fatah slams Qatari envoy’s ‘divisive remarks’ on Gaza
[ENGLISH.ALARABIYA.NET] Fatah on Sunday condemned Qatar
...an emirate on the east coast of the Arabian Peninsula. It sits on some really productive gas and oil deposits, which produces the highest per capita income in the world. They piss it all away on religion, financing the Moslem Brotherhood and several al-Qaeda affiliates. Home of nutbag holy manYusuf al-Qaradawi...
i envoy Mohammed al-Emadi, head of the Qatari committee for the reconstruction of Gazoo, for holding the Paleostinian Authority partly responsible for the deteriorating humanitarian situation in Gazoo and said these statements aim to strengthen the Paleostinian divide.

"The political statements which the Qatari envoy made against President the ineffectual Mahmoud Abbas
... a graduate of the prestigious unaccredited Patrice Lumumba University in Moscow with a doctorate in Holocaust Denial...
attempt to exploit the tragic situation in Gazoo as he denies the support we provide to our people there and what we share with them," Fatah said in a statement, adding that providing this aid was its duty.

Emadi, who was kicked out last week from a hospital in Gazoo by the staff and public, recently said that if President Mahmoud Abbas gives Gazoo, he’d gain a lot of popularity, adding that Abbas should try to gain people instead of being hostile to them. He added that "the Paleostinian Authority, Egypt and Israel are to blame for the humanitarian situation in Gazoo."

Fatah also said that Emadi’s statements voice an "incomprehensible and offensive" stance towards the Paleostinian Authority.

It called on him to retract these comments which harmonize "with campaigns that aim to strengthen divide and sow divisions among the Paleostinians," adding that Abbas "always seeks to provide for the people in Gazoo like he does for other Paleostinian areas, without any discrimination."

"Gazoo is a pillar of the Paleostinian cause and there is a national responsibility towards it, just like the case is with other Paleostinian areas. We realize the importance of restoring Gazoo to Paleostinian legitimacy and of not allowing anyone to hijack it and (treat it) like it’s no longer our responsibility which we are aware of more than anyone else," it added.
Posted by: Fred || 02/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Qatar (MB)

#1  We must "Respect" the Palestinians. Its been fifty years since any of them had a job and that does something to a man's "respect.' So "respect" is a priority, doncha'know?

Also Send Money.
Posted by: Spanky Munster7573 || 02/27/2018 5:39 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
US State Dept pledges $40mn of military funds for ‘information wars'
Posted by: Skidmark || 02/27/2018 07:18 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Part of these funds will be distributed between various civil rights groups, creators of media content, non-governmental organizations, as well as state-funded and private research entities. The grants would be awarded to those presenting the best ways to combat propaganda and disinformation. An Information Access Fund, to be set up for this purpose, will "support public and private partners working to expose and counter propaganda and disinformation from foreign nations."

What could go wrong?
Posted by: G. Whotha5763 || 02/27/2018 12:51 Comments || Top||

#2  ... What could go wrong? ... the state dept ... why does state have any 'MILITARY' money to distribute? Shouldn't we be talking about drastic reduction in state?

Posted by: irishrageboy || 02/27/2018 17:43 Comments || Top||

#3  A classic strategy to introduce monitoring controls.
Posted by: Skidmark || 02/27/2018 20:47 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Militants to apologize to victims of Indonesia attacks
[Ynet] The Indonesian government is bringing together dozens of convicted Islamic Death Eaters and survivors of attacks in what it hopes will be an important step in combating radicalism and fostering reconciliation.

About 120 reformed Death Eaters will apologize to dozens of victims including survivors of the 2002 Bali bombings and the 2004 bombing of the Australian Embassy in Jakarta, according to Irfan Idris, director of de-radicalization at Indonesia's counterterrorism agency.

The three days of meetings at a Jakarta hotel that began Monday aren't open to the media except for an event on the final day.

"Many myrmidon convicts have changed and are taking the right course with us by drawing on their experience to prevent others from taking up violence," Idris told The News Agency that Dare Not be Named. "These facts have inspired us to reconcile them with their victims."
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  usually the victims of Islamic terror have to apologize to the terrorists
Posted by: lord garth || 02/27/2018 0:21 Comments || Top||

#2  Have they reformed enough to just kill themselves?
Posted by: Skidmark || 02/27/2018 11:34 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Anti-govt protests now look like an opportunity for Iran’s president
[DAWN] When Iran’s worst unrest in years broke out in December, the country’s president, Hassan Rouhani, saw a rare chance to push for reform.

Rouhani had won a second term last year campaigning on a platform for change. But he faced stiff resistance from the country’s hard-line holy mans, who wield the ultimate authority. So as Iranian protesters, furious over political repression and a stagnant economy, erupted into the streets for nearly two weeks, Rouhani leveraged their anger to promote his agenda.

Since then, he has increased pressure on Iran’s armed forces, including the powerful Revolutionary Guard, to divest from the economy. And he has made moves to overhaul a chaotic banking sector, where illicit lenders wiped out the savings of small depositors, helping stir the unrest.

The president has publicly sided with the protesters and urged his rivals to heed their calls.

"People have criticism and objections on the economic issue and they have a right. But the objections aren’t only economic," Rouhani said at a televised news conference earlier this month, according to Rooters. "They also have something to say about political and social issues and foreign relations. Our ears must be completely open to listen and know what the people want."

The sentiment has registered with the Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, who on Sunday acknowledged the criticism and said officials were "well aware" of the issues plaguing the country.

Amir Handjani, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council’s South Asia Centre, said Rouhani "has gone further than any Iranian president" in advocating for political and economic reforms. "He has pushed back on the notion that all protesters are seditionists, he has given them space to air their grievances, and he has said they have a right to question their leaders," he said.

Posted by: Fred || 02/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran


Iran, Turkey say Syria attacks to continue despite UN resolution
[DAWN] Iran said pro-Damascus forces would press ahead with attacks on an turban enclave near the Syrian capital, as ground fighting raged on there in defiance of a UN resolution demanding a 30-day truce across the country.

The Sick Man of Europe Turkey
...just another cheapjack Moslem dictatorship, brought to you by the Moslem Brüderbund....
, too, said its military operations in another theatre of war in the north of Syria would not be affected by the unanimous Security Council vote demanding the truce to allow for aid access and medical evacuations.

Anti-government rebels said they clashed with pro-government forces near Damascus on Sunday, as rescuers and residents said warplanes struck some towns in the eastern Ghouta pocket.

The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said air strikes and artillery killed nine people and injured 31 in the eastern suburbs. The UK-based monitoring group said Sunday’s bombing was less intense than attacks over the past week.

There was no immediate comment from the Syrian military.

The latest escalation by Damascus and its allies has killed more than 500 people in the enclave over the last week, the Observatory says. The dead included more than 120 children.

Posted by: Fred || 02/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Sublime Porte


Kremlin-Linked Audio Recordings On The Armed Clash With Americans In Syria Are Leaked
Russian Foreign Ministry spokesperson Maria Zakharova is the only Russian government official who has publicly confirmed that five people, "presumably" Russian citizens, were killed in an armed clash with U.S. forces near Deir el-Zour in Syria.

Opposition leaders inside Russia, as well as Russian and Western media reports, dispute Zakharova’s comments.

Polygraph.info has obtained audio recordings from a source close to the Kremlin who said the Russian casualties were personnel from a private Russian military company who attempted to capture an oil refinery in Syria.
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Posted by: G. Whotha5763 || 02/27/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [12 views] Top|| File under:

#1  US-held refinery? What are US troops doing in Syria? Why are they there? What are they possibly going to accomplish? Bring the troops home, Syria isn't worth it.
Posted by: Herb McCoy7309 || 02/27/2018 0:27 Comments || Top||

#2  I have a better idea! I will stick my head in sand so that I won't be bothered by anyone else.
Posted by: Daniel || 02/27/2018 0:57 Comments || Top||

#3  The only way this makes sense is that the Ruskis did this to get rid of a battalion of troublemakers.
Posted by: Penguin || 02/27/2018 1:10 Comments || Top||

#4  It is a probe they tried. They were warned. They were moving and firing, against US.
They were ended.

This is how this must be all the time. Our Troops are not going to play games with Russia and Russia has been read the riot act.

They know by Whom.
Posted by: newc || 02/27/2018 2:19 Comments || Top||

#5  I wish you [Americans] were as resolute with Erdogan Pasha.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 02/27/2018 3:16 Comments || Top||

#6  GOD has other plans for the want to be Ottomans.
One will be removing the World Fulcrum from them.
Posted by: newc || 02/27/2018 3:34 Comments || Top||

#7  What possible national interest is furthered by having US troops in Syria? Where's the benefit? There isn't any. This is so the State Department can meddle in the Middle East and make things worse. You know, like they've been doing for 20 years.
Posted by: Herb McCoy7309 || 02/27/2018 7:55 Comments || Top||

#8  What possible national interest is furthered by having US troops in Syria?

I would much rather our troops are free to kill jihadis over there on a war footing rather hope the police, FBI, and sheriffs notice and watch each one here at home for the hundreds of hours and millions of dollars necessary to gather the evidence need to try, convict, and imprison them over here.

Half of the foreign ISIS jihadis were killed in Iraq, and no doubt at least similar numbers of locals. In Syria, with so many jihadi groups fighting each other for supremacy, the percentqge is orobably even higher. By comparison, the number of arrests and convictions in the U.S, Europe, and Britain can probably be numbered in the hundreds, whle we know that the authorities have tens of thousands of known jihadis that they are failing to keep track of, any one or several of whom might launch a mass ir individual attack at any moment.

The way to win a war is kill enough of the enemy that it makes sense to them to quit fighting. That is only going to happen in places like Syria, and only with the loose rules of engagement President Trump has given the generals since he came into office.
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/27/2018 10:36 Comments || Top||

#9  The only way this makes sense is that the Ruskis did this to get rid of a battalion of troublemakers.

Also saves on future pension and disability claims.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/27/2018 11:07 Comments || Top||

#10  So the Buffs were in on it. How long does it take to organize a B52 strike? Depends on planning, which ordnance is handy or even loaded. Intel as to IADS, targeting data. Then they have to lumber from wherever they were--Diego Garcia?--and get it done in...what? a dozen hours? Somebody was using his ouija board pretty effectively.
Posted by: Richard Aubrey || 02/27/2018 12:09 Comments || Top||

#11  Buffs could have been flying on station.
Posted by: G. Whotha5763 || 02/27/2018 12:21 Comments || Top||

#12  #8 trailing wife,

I was talking to a US Marine general back before the invasion of Iraq. He made the exact same point but with Iraq. Then zero screwed the pooch by pulling out.
Posted by: G. Whotha5763 || 02/27/2018 12:58 Comments || Top||

#13  Buffs could have been flying on station.

Or launched from Moron Air Base, Spain.
Posted by: Skidmark || 02/27/2018 13:19 Comments || Top||

#14  US troops in Syria aren't fighting jihadis. They're fighting Assad's men. You know, the ones fighting the jihadis.

All that's going to happen is the Deep State will arrange some event and they'll get a direct conflict between US and Russia, and then they can finally start the big shooting war with Russia that they have such a hard-on for.
Posted by: Herb McCoy7309 || 02/27/2018 13:37 Comments || Top||

#15  Also saves on future pension and disability claims.

True. Ouch.
Posted by: gorb || 02/27/2018 13:41 Comments || Top||

#16  Herb,
Evidence?
Posted by: G. Whotha5763 || 02/27/2018 13:42 Comments || Top||

#17  Arm the Kurds. Train the Kurds. Give the Kurds credit for big victorys until the local Arabs start to think the Kurds have magical Israeli powers.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 02/27/2018 14:07 Comments || Top||

#18  #16 Evidence Experience.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 02/27/2018 14:09 Comments || Top||

#19  So the Buffs were in on it. How long does it take to fix up a B52 strike? The right ordnance is handy, or even loaded. IADS intel is current and put out to the crews. Targeting data and deconfliction info. Then they have to lumber up there from wherever--Diego Garcia?--all in how long? How many hours from the "official" time of discovery of the impending attack until the Buffs arrived? Somebody was using his ouija board pretty effectively.
Posted by: Richard Aubrey || 02/27/2018 14:57 Comments || Top||

#20  First one disappeared. Being on station is even more...interesting.
Posted by: Richard Aubrey || 02/27/2018 14:58 Comments || Top||

#21  They're fighting Assad's men. You know, the ones fighting the jihadis.

Assad's son sponsors jihadis and non-Islamist terror groups, and even pays them to conduct terror attacks, as long as they're not pointed at his government. He funneled jihadis into Iraq to kill US troops. He was a major sponsor of Hamas, until they started backing the rebels against him. Bottom line is that Assad's getting flack from the West today has a lot to do with Syria's sponsorship of terror groups until they fell out with the regime.

Why did the UK want Gaddafi out? Lockerbie and Gaddafi's gift of loads of AK's to the IRA. Did you know that over thousand Brits died because of IRA terror attacks - more than the number of IRA terrorists killed? There is no statute of limitations on this stuff, and this is the kind of lesson that future sponsors need to learn.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 02/27/2018 15:33 Comments || Top||

#22  How many hours from the "official" time of discovery of the impending attack until the Buffs arrived? Somebody was using his ouija board pretty effectively.

Reports are that the Russians had been massing for days, getting their ducks in a row. The B-52's were probably on station just in case it wasn't just for show.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 02/27/2018 15:36 Comments || Top||

#23  So the Russians were massing for days. Without any way of hiding it. Presuming the reports are true.
So, they're idiots. Or they were signaling to the US to back off before anybody got hurt. Now they know. Don't take days to mass and don't expect the US to do an Obama.
Posted by: Richard Aubrey || 02/27/2018 16:49 Comments || Top||

#24  Russia-Russians, or their local surrogates?
Posted by: gorb || 02/27/2018 17:17 Comments || Top||

#25  I was talking to a US Marine general back before the invasion of Iraq. He made the exact same point but with Iraq. Then zero screwed the pooch by pulling out.

I wouldn’t dream of claiming I actually thought it up myself, dear G. Whotha5763 — I am, after all, just a little civilian housewife with no martial training. But I’ve read the discussion of why it’s important here at Rantburg over the years, and it makse sense to me. What President Obama did to destroy all that work, wasting all those who sacrificed life, limb, and mind, was predicted during the 2007-2008 campaign. So his place in the history books as an awful lesson is secure.
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/27/2018 18:38 Comments || Top||

#26  just a little civilian housewife

AH,hahahaha!
Posted by: Skidmark || 02/27/2018 19:05 Comments || Top||

#27  Pttttttthhhhhppp! to you, Skidmark. Evrey word of that is literally true. ;-)
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/27/2018 22:33 Comments || Top||

#28  So the Russians were massing for days. Without any way of hiding it. Presuming the reports are true.

All the other players are doing this on a shoestring. Only Uncle has the resources to get stuff done quickly. That kind of redundancy is what you get with a $700b defense budget. Most of Syria is desert, and deserted, so it's not like people can just loiter in the middle of nowhere, and not get noticed. And then there's sigint, Kurdish scouts and, presumably, spies working in the Syrian government.

I have a feeling our people on the ground aren't exactly sitting still. Since the original function of what are now Special Forces was intel gathering on enemy dispositions, I expect they've been running LRRP's against anyone near where they're laagered.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 02/27/2018 23:56 Comments || Top||

#29  What I'd like to know is how LRRP's avoid getting spotted by omnipresent drones.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 02/27/2018 23:59 Comments || Top||



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