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Afghanistan
Karzai: Foreigners Shouldnt Go Against Afghan National Sovereignty
[Tolo News] Afghanistan's Caped President, Hamid Maybe I'll join the Taliban Karzai, on Saturday in his speech at the institute of civil services, accused foreigners of not respecting Afghan national sovereignty
Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like if it wasn't for us foreigners Afghanistan would have no sovereignty. Seems like the last government was split between catspaws of the Pak religious parties and murderous Arabians, with a tiny handful of native Tadjiks actually forming the "sovereign state" of Pandjir.
Afghanistan's Caped President said private security firms are the cause of insecurity in the country and besides urging the foreign forces to ban these firms, called that details of contracts among Afghan firms and foreign forces should be unveiled.
Silly us, we thought that the cause of insecurity in Afghanistain was the Taliban, Hekmatyar's Hizbies, the Pak Taliban, al-Qaeda, its imported Chechens, and let us not forget the Uzbeks. Without them there'd be no need for private security forces.
While emphasising on the Afghanisation of the domestic institutions, President Karzai warned foreigners to respect Afghanistan's national sovereignty.
"Afghanization," is it? If I was Ismail Khan I'd be opening "Ismail's Security Co., Inc.," and hiring some fellows who'd worked for me in the past. And I'd be cackling in my beard as I discovered that my chief business rival was "Dostum's Security for All Occasions." Hamid should lay off the opium for awhile.
"Private security firms daily bring misfortune to our country. They step over the rights of our people, they deteriorate our security," he said. "God knows they may commit robbery and block ways during the day and turn into bad boys at night. Until the contracts are not disclosed, corruption sources cannot be fought properly."
"How's anybody gonna get a piece of the action if we don't know where the action is?"
President Karzai sees the presence of Afghan advisors rather than foreign consultants in the Afghan organisations as a need. "Any Afghan organisation that decreases the number of foreign advisors and add to Afghans, can be successful," he said.
Dostum should be jumping on that statement.
Meanwhile, President Karzai criticised the comments made by foreigners about Afghan government's inability doing work and fulfilling its duties. "Statements like 'Afghanistan does not have the ability to this or that, should not be interpreted that we are not able to do anything and that they should be with us doing everything," he said.
Posted by: Fred || 08/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  if it wasn't for us foreigners Afghanistan would have no sovereignty.
I think Afghan sovereignty consists of this: killing every foreigner who is not a jihadi. This definition comports with the evidence.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/08/2010 11:46 Comments || Top||


Africa Horn
Al Shabaab's First "News" Video: An Effort to Recruit Westerners and Expel Peacekeepers
Posted by: miscellaneous || 08/08/2010 12:53 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  wow they discovered a camera.
Posted by: chris || 08/08/2010 17:36 Comments || Top||


Africa Subsaharan
South Africa irked US in war on terror
South Africa's refusal to side with the US in the conflict in Afghanistan came close to setting the country on a diplomatic collision course with the super-power. A terse communique among the nearly 80,000 secret documents posted on the internet whistleblower website WikiLeaks records the threat of severe diplomatic sanctions against South Africa for being allegedly remiss in supporting the US in its wars against international jihadists.

Dated May 3, 2007, the communique, posted by the American embassy in Ottawa, details an approach made by the US government to Canada to force South Africa to clamp downon fundraising inside the country for Aghanistan's Taliban. What the US proposes, as recorded in the communique, is nothing less than a joint demarche - a strong rebuke - to force the South Africans to get into line, and it seeks Canadian backup.

No follow-up is recorded in the massive bundle of documents and it remains unclear whether the threat went any further. Indeed, a source close to the Canadian diplomatic corps contacted by Weekend Argus said it appeared unlikely any action resulted. The source pointed out that the Canadian response to the grandstanding request was guarded, to say the least.
My response to the journalistic grandstanding involved in the last sentence will be guarded as well, to say the least.
With what appears to be consummate diplomacy, the Canadians indicated they would be happy to consider lending support to the US initiative but would need more information. Once in possession of the details of how the SA government was aiding the Taliban, they could decide. "The US tends to be very reluctant to part with information of this kind, so chances are the whole thing stalemated right there," the source said.
The narrative that clever Canadians successfully foiled arrogant Yankee grandstanding is certainly putting a thrill up someone's leg.
Nor were sources in the SA Department of Foreign Affairs able to confirm that the US threat was ever delivered. Sources in the government at the time however, noted there was indeed diplomatic strain over the post 9/11 US "war on terror". As a country with a significant Muslim minority, South Africa was desperate to appease reluctant to adopt such a gung-ho anti-terror stance.

Usually fronted by then deputy foreign affairs minister Aziz Pahad and pro-Palestinian intelligence minister Ronnie Kasrils, the South Africans had, since 1994, nurtured a neutral stance on US foreign policy wars in the Middle East and south Asia. Co-operative structures between the US and their European allies on one side and the SA National Intelligence Agency had fallen into disuse - despite mounting evidence that South Africa was being used as a safe haven by allies and possibly operatives of al-Qaeda, Hamas, Hizbollah and other organisations internationally proscribed by the US-led alliance.

In particular the SA government had declined to act against organisations styling themselves as charitable and relief NGOs, which US intelligence claimed served as covert funding agencies and support networks for terror groups. One of the most prominent of these was the Fordsburg-based Al Aqsa Foundation, led by cousins Junaid and Moulana Farhad Docrat. Though the Docrats and the Al Aqsa Foundation were included in the US Specially Designated Nationals blacklist by 2007, the foundation continued to be registered as a legitimate charity with the SA Department of Social Development - and was thus in a position to move foreign exchange via the Reserve Bank.

While the major accusation against the foundation was over support for Hamas, it also hosted a series of religious speakers linked to the Taliban on international fundraising missions. Among these was Mufti Mizamuddin Shamzai, a proponent of international jihad and one of the godfathers of Afghanistan's Taliban. Shamzai was also associated with what amounted to the spiritual hijacking of the venerable Deobandi movement from its opposition to violent jihad, to becoming one of the key allies on the global stage of Osama Bin Laden's al-Qaeda. When Shamzai was assassinated in 2004, SA sympathisers reportedly donated R500,000 to his heirs.
Posted by: ryuge || 08/08/2010 09:27 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Style is everything. Gung-ho anti-terrorism ain't their style. Gung-ho terrorism is where it's at these days.
Posted by: Goober Goobelopolous || 08/08/2010 11:51 Comments || Top||

#2  Geen Boer, got terrorists. Wat 'n phueching surprise! Fund raising is probably only the sharks fin above the water line. They'll really get twisted when Jacob Zuma leases the Vastrap weapons test range to the Talibunnies.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/08/2010 13:13 Comments || Top||


Arabia
Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula's English-Language Magazine
Posted by: miscellaneous || 08/08/2010 12:56 || Comments || Link || [12 views] Top|| File under:


Caribbean-Latin America
Update on Mexican Federal Agent Mutiny -- Four Relieved
Google Translate. Earlier reports put the number of demonstrators at 400, while later reports place the number at 100.
Four top Mexican Federal police commanders of the Juarez detachment were relieved of duty following a boisterous protest by agents at their Juarez detachment headquarters Saturday morning.

While later reports do not specifically name the commanders relieved, earlier reports say Alarcon Salomon Olvera, AKA "The Shaman", Joel Ortega and Ricardo Duque were three of the top commanders cited by protesters for abuse of their authority.

The chief of the Division de Fuerzas Federales, Rafael Aviles, was present at the protest and took testimony from those who were affected by the allegations.

The Mexican national Secretaría de Seguridad Pública (SSP) announced later in the day the four relieved commanders would be sent to Mexico City to be investigated concerning the allegations.

The Juarez detachment of the Mexican Federal police had been under some pressure due to several armed attacks directed against forces in Juarez, the most spectacular being the July 16th car bomb which killed one agent and three others. In just the last week at least eight attacks mostly in the form of ambushes have been made against federal patrols in Juarez, the most recent at 1400 hrs. Saturday.

The protests Saturday morning took place at the Juarez hotel La Playa on Avenida Lopez Mateos. Several protesting agents ransacked the hotel rooms of police commanders seizing guns and drugs they say were used against innocents, including a federal agent.
Posted by: badanov || 08/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Your work got a mention at Instapundit today, badman.
My compliments. Well deserved.
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/08/2010 13:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Thanks, tu
Posted by: badanov || 08/08/2010 14:16 Comments || Top||


Quintana Roo: Cancun Discharges More Than 300 Cops
Google Translate. For a map, click here
More than 300 municipal police officers have been removed from duty following an investigation which included the use of wiretaps, say Mexican news reports.

The Secretario de Seguridad Publica (SSP), General de Brigada Urbano Papyrez Banuelos, who ran the investigation, said that 169 officers were dismissed for lack of confidence and misdemeanors while another 138 voluntarily submitted resignations.

The dismissals were for various reasons including loss of confidence, drunkedness, involvement in kidnapping and abandonment of employment. A total of 59 were dismissed for mutiny.

Posted by: badanov || 08/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Ergh... this is the Cancun/Playa Del Carmen area. The last thing I want is for the troubles to spread south into the Mayan Riviera.
Posted by: Free Radical || 08/08/2010 8:40 Comments || Top||


Colombia accuses Chavez of "crimes against humanity"
A politically connected Bogota lawyer said he has filed an international suit charging Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez with 'crimes against humanity' for alleged support of Colombian guerrillas.
This will go precisely nowhere, at at dead slow speed...
Jaime Granados, personal attorney for outgoing President Alvaro Uribe, filed the claim with the International Criminal Court at The Hague, alleging evidence of guerrilla camps in Venezuelan territory.
Such evidence when the perp is a commie is ignored, obfuscated, or reinterpreted -- usually to be the fault of the U.S.
Granados claimed that Uribe, an arch-foe of Chavez, was not behind the lawsuit, but would be called as a witness.
Doesn't matter. I heard a lefty talk show guy just a month or two ago telling his audience about Uribe's "human rights violations." It doesn't matter what you do, it's which side you're on.
He said he filed the case on behalf of victims of guerrilla attacks near the common border. Granados said he had also denounced Venezuela to the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights.
That showed him, by Gum!
The lawyer announced the moves just before Uribe's successor, president-elect Juan Manuel Santos, was to assume office Saturday.

Colombia had denounced Venezuela before the Organization of American States on July 22, presenting alleged photographic evidence in Venezuela of 1,500 combatants of the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, including a senior commander called Ivan Marquez.

Uribe's administration called for an international investigation, prompting Chavez to break off all diplomatic relations. Uribe then ordered Colombian Attorney General Guillermo Mendoza to prepare a case to be filed in the International Criminal Court.
Posted by: Fred || 08/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Commies

#1  tHugo doth protest too much.

Posted by: Mike Hunt || 08/08/2010 4:38 Comments || Top||

#2  Hugo is a crime against humanity.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/08/2010 15:43 Comments || Top||


Europe
French official calls to restrain polygamy
[Al Arabiya Latest] Immigrants who practice polygamy or female genital mutilation should have their citizenship revoked, France's France's interior minister said Saturday, going beyond President Nicolas Sarkozy's plan to strip the French nationality of foreign-born people who endanger police.
Good luck with that. We have a spare Prop. 8 you can use ...
Brice Hortefeux spoke as a Muslim Frenchman at the center of a firestorm over polygamy was detained for questioning by police.
The concept isn't really complicated. The last time the Frenchies practiced polygamy they were divided into Salians and Riparians. You can't be a polygamist and still be a Frenchy.
Preliminary fraud charges were filed in June against Algerian-born Lies Hebbadj for allegedly collecting too much state aid for up to 15 children he reportedly had with four different women. The case became public last April when his veiled wife was issued a traffic citation for driving with apparel that hinders vision.
You'll notice that it's not the really bright women who opt for polygamous relationships. I've been to France. It takes some really bad driving to make a cop notice you. Putting a pillowcase over your head will usually make for noticeable driving.
Hebbadj was being questioned Saturday over a former companion's claims of alleged acts of rape and violence from 2003-2007, prosecutor Xavier Ronsin said.

Polygamy charges were never filed against Hebbadj, who lives in the Nantes region in western France. Because the women and children live under separate roofs, investigators could not prove polygamy as defined by law. Hortefeux said at the time that, regretfully, "no one or almost no one is judicially speaking polygamous in France" under the penal code as it stands.

On Saturday, the minister, speaking on RTL radio, reiterated his wish to see Hebbadj's nationality revoked if found guilty.

Later, speaking to reporters in Perpignan, he said that he also wanted "the possibility of revoking nationality in cases of polygamy, female circumcision." The president has said the move to revoke citizenship, denounced by immigrants' and human rights' groups, was part of a "national war on delinquency."

Prosecutor Ronsin said Saturday that Hebbadj was detained for questioning Friday evening. His detention period was extended until Sunday, according to his lawyer, Cecile de Oliveira.

The lawyer said her client was being "tracked by unrelenting police."

"This comes at a good time," she said, referring to Hebbadj's detention just as the minister spoke out again against polygamy. "It comes at even too good a time."

Hortefeux said he would submit his proposal to the government by the end of the month. However, Immigration Minister Eric Besson raised questions about the legal possibility of including polygamy among reasons to revoke nationality, saying the subject is particularly "complex."
Posted by: Fred || 08/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Global Jihad


The Grand Turk
Turkish group may send new mission to Gaza
[Arab News] The group behind a convoy to Gaza that ended when Israeli forces stormed the ships and killed nine activists said on Saturday it may use the vessels for another run on the blockade.

Israel released the three ships this week after sending the Turkish Foreign Ministry a message that said it expected Turkey to prevent the vessels, which arrived in the east Mediterranean port of Iskenderun earlier on Saturday, from attempting to reach Hamas-run Gaza again.

Huseyin Oruc, a board member at the Foundation for Human Rights and Freedoms and Humanitarian Aid (IHH), which owns the ships, told Reuters TV that if the blockade on Gaza continued, the boats may take part in another mission.

"If the problem is not solved, many flotillas ... will sail to Gaza. If necessary, these boats can also be used for this," Oruc said.

"We have purchased these three boats for Palestinian needs. If it is necessary, we can use easily use them. These boats are humanitarian boats."

Before releasing the ships, Israel, which had impounded the vessels after the May 31 raid, had unsuccessfully sought a promise that they would not be sent to Gaza again.

The raid caused a deep rift in relations between Israel and Turkey, once its closest Muslim ally. Turkey demanded an apology, withdrew its ambassador and canceled joint military exercises with Israel.

Turkey also listed the return of the vessels as one of several conditions for normalising relations.

The converted cruise liner Mavi Marmara, on which the pro-Palestinian activists were shot, and two cargo ships were accompanied by Turkish tugboats from Israel because their motors were not functioning.

The Mavi Marmara appeared to be freshly painted, though signs in Hebrew and Arabic script were still visible. Clothing and personal effects could be seen through the ship's windows, and what appeared to be a bullet hole near the captain's cabin was seen from the nearby shore.

Oruc said the boats had been painted to cover bullet holes and other evidence.

"Thousands of bullets hit the boat, and it was damaged everywhere. When they captured the boats, the Israelis hid all of this proof on the outside of the boat. They have been repaired and were painted," he said.

Local officials told reporters prosecutors would board the ships on Monday to investigate for evidence of what happened during the raid.

Israel has admitted to mistakes, but said its marines were justified in using lethal force because the Marmara's activists had attacked them with clubs, knives and guns.

It also has taken fence-mending measures, such as easing overland trade to Gaza and lifting a travel advisory to Turkey for Israeli tourists.
Posted by: Fred || 08/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  Wasn't it Einstein who said,
"The definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results"?
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 08/08/2010 0:34 Comments || Top||

#2  "...Huseyin Oruc, a board member at the Foundation for Human Rights and Freedoms and Humanitarian Aid (IHH)..."

JRR Tolkien would have been surprised at the fact that Orcs were board members - but not that they would be used against Israel.
Posted by: lord garth || 08/08/2010 0:45 Comments || Top||

#3  a couple radio-controlled mines in the bilge and driveline area should do wonders
Posted by: Frank G on the road || 08/08/2010 12:57 Comments || Top||

#4  Wasn't it Einstein who said,
"The definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results"?


Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/08/2010 13:52 Comments || Top||

#5  Jim, the first blockade runners already got the Israelis to lighten the blockade. So, why not try again? All they have to do is find more as...I mean martyrs. Then they can really throw their bombs at Israel. They already have the support of Britain and Iran and various parts of Europe. They could make this one even look more nice and actually fill it up with goodies for Hamas to confiscate. Then they can really point the finger at the supposed, "Evil Empire."
Posted by: miscellaneous || 08/08/2010 18:29 Comments || Top||


Home Front: WoT
Bloomberg to mosque foes: Shut up already!
Mayor Bloomberg won't stop talking about the mosque near Ground Zero, harshly attacking opponents yesterday who "ought to be ashamed of themselves."

Sounding more supportive of freedom of religion than freedom of speech, Bloomberg said, "I just don't think the government should tell people where they can pray and where they can build houses of worship.

"It is a shame that we even have to talk about this," the mayor added on his WOR radio broadcast.

The mayor ratcheted up his rhetoric against critics just days after defending the mosque in an impassioned speech on Governors Island, with the Statue of Liberty as a backdrop.

Yesterday, Bloomberg said cops and firefighters who died on 9/11 didn't ask people in the World Trade Center, "Where do you pray?" as they tried to save their lives.

"Most of the [9/11 rescuers'] families that I've talked to, they say, 'Of course our loved ones gave their lives to protect the very freedoms that we're talking about here -- people being able to practice religion and say what they want to say and be in control of their own destiny,' " the mayor said.

Bloomberg also blasted demands for a probe of the mosque builders' finances.

"Every time they pass the basket in your church and you throw a buck in, [do you want someone to] run over and say, 'OK, now where do you come from, who are your parents, where'd you get this money?' . . . A handful of people ought to be ashamed of themselves."

The Landmarks Preservation Commission's decision Tuesday to let the 152-year-old former Burlington Coat Factory building on Park Place be torn down was based solely on the building's lack of "redeeming historic value," Bloomberg said.

The building is owned by SoHo Properties. Its CEO, Sharif El-Gamal, hopes to raise $100 million for a 13-story mosque and cultural center.

Opponents pressed their case yesterday, filing a federal lawsuit against the MTA for refusing to allow anti-mosque ads on its buses. The ads show a jet about to slam into one of the Twin Towers and depict what they call the "WTC Mega Mosque." The headline: "Why There?"

The lawsuit, filed by the American Freedom Defense Initiative, says the MTA displayed its ads before -- but without reason rejected this one.

"No decision has been made," an MTA spokesman said.

Separately, CNN host Fareed Zakaria returned a $10,000 First Amendment award to the Anti-Defamation League to protest its opposition to the mosque.
We wouldn't allow a Wal-Mart next door to Gettysburg. We wouldn't allow a Pentecostal Church on the grounds at Manassas. We wouldn't allow a Shinto shrine next to the Arizona Memorial. This isn't about the mosque, this is about what is civil, hallowed ground, and how close we allow the ordinary world to be to that ground. We're talking lower Manhattan and I get that we can't clear cut a mile around the WTC site, but a mosque -- or a church, or a shrine, or a Wal-Mart -- next door is inappropriate. The Muslim community in lower Manhattan can have their 13 story mosque. Just not there.

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Posted by: Fred || 08/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  SO,
Bloomberg IS A MUSLIM.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 08/08/2010 0:37 Comments || Top||

#2  STFU Bloomberg. You little boy.

You made money but that means nothing for your morals. Read boy. Read.

I suggest the WSJ for now and the bible when you are ready. You are in DEUT 28 right now. In fact Deut 28:27 is what you cheer on.

Idiot.

Money is not wisdom. Do not any of you get that yet?
Posted by: newc || 08/08/2010 1:02 Comments || Top||

#3  Bloomberg is proof that money cannot buy happieness...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 08/08/2010 1:03 Comments || Top||

#4  Yesterday, Bloomberg said cops and firefighters who died on 9/11 didn't ask people in the World Trade Center, "Where do you pray?" as they tried to save their lives.

Might be a while before we can actually follow-up on this one Mr. Mayor. Can you provide us some opinions from the LIVING please?
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/08/2010 4:58 Comments || Top||

#5  The man is truly an idiot. He must have little or no knowledge of how Islam works. To compare it to other religions or to equate terrorist funding actions as equivalent to a charity basket is pure BS.
Posted by: miscellaneous || 08/08/2010 6:53 Comments || Top||

#6  That pesky 1st ammendment. I will never shut up! But you Mr Bloomberg, will get voted out of office.
Posted by: 49 Pan || 08/08/2010 7:23 Comments || Top||

#7  Location of the site under discussion.


View Larger Map
Posted by: Goodluck || 08/08/2010 8:17 Comments || Top||

#8  Bloomberg IS A MUSLIM.

No he's not, Redneck Jim. He's a fairly secularized, left wing Jew. And like many people in this country and in Europe he's drunk the KoolAid of an intentional disinformation campaign being waged against the West by Islamicists.
Posted by: lotp || 08/08/2010 8:40 Comments || Top||

#9  No Wal*Marts at Gettysburg? How about Casinos

The Adams County commissioners voted 2-1 Wednesday to support the proposed Mason-Dixon Resort & Casino.

Commissioners Lisa Moreno and Glenn Snyder voted to approve a Memorandum of Understanding that guarantees Adams County $1 million annually. In exchange, the commissioners are required to testify in support of the proposal during a public hearing held later this month by the state Gaming Control Board.

Gettysburg businessman David LeVan and former Penn National Gaming executive Joseph Lashinger Jr. have proposed converting the Eisenhower Inn & Conference Center on Emmitsburg Road, about 0.8 miles south of the Gettysburg National Military Park, into a gaming resort with 600 slot machines and 50 table games.
Posted by: Nimble Spemble || 08/08/2010 8:44 Comments || Top||

#10  George Stephanopoulas sides with Mayor Bloomberg on this issue, all the while knowing St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church, destroyed on 9-11-01, has yet to get a go ahead to rebuild from the City of New York. (Link) Islam has a history of building mosques at sites of Islamic Victories - Neil Boortz
Posted by: Goodluck || 08/08/2010 8:46 Comments || Top||

#11  Onward to funding! GRRRRRRR
Next stops for Feisal Abdul Rauf, imam of the plan for a mosque and Islamic center near Ground Zero: Courtesy of the U.S. State Department, Rauf — a.k.a. Imam Feisal – is scheduled to spend the rest of the summer on a swing through the petro-dollar palaces of Saudi Arabia, Abu Dhabi, Dubai, Bahrain, and Qatar.
http://pajamasmedia.com/claudiarosett/news-flash-ground-zero-imam-heading-to-saudi-arabia-uae/
Posted by: Sheba Shusoper3773 || 08/08/2010 10:33 Comments || Top||

#12  NImble: thanks for that. Aaargh. Is nothing sacred anymore?
Posted by: Steve White || 08/08/2010 10:36 Comments || Top||

#13  Qibla Locator Please press the Satellite view when at the site.

The direction in which Muslims should pray is called Qibla. Five times a day, Muslims face Makkah and pray. Using the correct Qibla as shown via the link above, the congregation will have their backsides to Ground Zero.

Oh, and Mr. Bloomberg, I will not shut-up. You Sir, need an education in 1st Amendment Rights.
Posted by: Goodluck || 08/08/2010 10:41 Comments || Top||

#14  I love the inversion in this Bloomie statement: "our loved ones gave their lives to protect the very freedoms that we're talking about here -- people being able to practice religion and say what they want to say and be in control of their own destiny."

So in Bloomie's bizarre equation, by (supposedly) attacking "freedom of religion," the anti-mosque crowd are attacking those who on 9/11 "gave their lives to protect" freedom of religion.

In other words, those who consider it inappropriate to build a mosque next to the most horrific scene of islamist terror are the equivalent of ... islamist terrorists.

Hey, you stupid f***, here's a clue for you: the reason the Poles refused to allow a carmelite convent next to Auschwitz wasn't because they're anti-Catholic or against freedom of religion. It's because history matters, and requires tact and judgment.
Posted by: lex || 08/08/2010 11:24 Comments || Top||

#15  Some proposed projects for the Bloomberg Foundation:

- a Japanese Center for Shinto Dignity in Nanking, China (hat tip: Mary Peretz of tnr.com's "The Spine" blog)

- a Russian Orthodox monastery and retreat in Poland's Katyn Forest

- a Confederate History Museum next to the bridge in Selma, Alabama
Posted by: lex || 08/08/2010 11:28 Comments || Top||

#16  E-Mail the mayor.

I assume everything posted here is permitted/encouraged to be copied for education purposes?
Posted by: Bobby || 08/08/2010 12:24 Comments || Top||

#17  Interesting Qibla Locator. Suppose you were at -21.425, 39.8255. I believe you could see it.
Posted by: Bobby || 08/08/2010 12:26 Comments || Top||

#18  not -21, but at: 21.425, 39.8255.

Sometimes I forget PIMF.
Posted by: Bobby || 08/08/2010 12:32 Comments || Top||

#19  But natch.

Bloomberg's yapping is just another way of saying that if the mosque doesn't get built the terrorists will have won.

If he wasn't the mayor of New York he'd be boring. As it is he's not very interesting.
Posted by: Fred || 08/08/2010 12:33 Comments || Top||

#20  'Of course our loved ones gave their lives to protect the very freedoms that we're talking about here -- people being able to practice religion and say what they want to say and be in control of their own destiny,' " the mayor said.


The practice of islam includes slaughtering infidels, forbiding the constructiton of places of worship of others, teaching hatred towards all non-muslims, clearly explaining their vision of a global caliphate, murdering anyone who speaks out against islamic practices or wishes to leave the faith - even their own children and the list goes on and on and on. This death cult practices a religion that is intolerant (to the nth degree) of anything and anyone. There is no freedom in islam Bloomy. Nlone. So it stands at odds with all the freedoms on which the US is founded.

"freedom to say what they want to say" Have you been listening to what muslims say, Bloomy? Most of it is hate speech, which is not a freedom. Kill the jews, kill all infidels, kill all apostates, kill all americans, we won't top til the world is islam, our jihad is to destroy the world to eliminate anyone who is not the exact same kind of muslim I am. many, many different schools of islam each trying to slaughter the others - infidels need not be even involved for muslims who embrace violence and ignorance - each other will suffice. There is no freedom to say what one wishes about islam. There is no freedom to draw a cartoon. Why your insistance, Bloomy, on letting only muslims "say what they want to say"?

"Be in control of their own destiny..." Muslims destiny is a global caliphate. Muslims are very clear about this. Very, very clear, What part of this have you missed, Bloomy? it is not their own destiny which they seek to control, but your destiny and mine and that of every infidel in the world. That's the message of the minaret.

it is insane to expect infidels to tolerate a "religion" that demands their own death. it is death to tolerate the intolerable.

/rant
Posted by: Swanimote || 08/08/2010 12:37 Comments || Top||

#21  When is this moron gone from office?
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/08/2010 12:43 Comments || Top||

#22  Nanny's get very upset when their children turn petulant...
Posted by: tu3031 || 08/08/2010 13:32 Comments || Top||

#23  Wow, right on ground zero... humm... isn't there another building going up there? Or did the 13 floor mosk get the land... difficult to tell. Ground zero needs to be defined.

And yeah, I'm all about building a Big Box over Little Round Top, it would smell like victory.

And put a Popeyes on Seminiary Ridge to under_score the point.

0/ We win!
Posted by: Shipman || 08/08/2010 14:01 Comments || Top||

#24  And soon after the Mega-ArmoryMosque goes up they will start demanding that all images of pigs and dogs be removed from view from the mosque and all women be 'decently' bagged and tagged.

And of course there's the call to prayer five times a day.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 08/08/2010 15:14 Comments || Top||

#25  Much like the previous controversy, Grrrrr.
Flight 93 Memorial, the “Crescent of Embrace.”
http://michellemalkin.com/2005/09/10/flight-93-memorial-seeing-is-believing/
Posted by: Spoluter Forkbeard6988 || 08/08/2010 15:54 Comments || Top||

#26  Boycott New York.
Posted by: Dale || 08/08/2010 17:03 Comments || Top||

#27  Peasants be still! The ruling aristocracy knows best for us, can you not understand? Bloomberg's billions will prevail.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/08/2010 17:11 Comments || Top||

#28  Peasant or billionaire, they all kick the same way at the end of a rope.
Posted by: OldSpook || 08/08/2010 21:44 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Geo blocked over news of shoe hurling at Zardari
The transmission of Geo News has been blocked overnight in various parts of country after it aired news regarding hurling of shoes at President Zardari during his party address in Birmingham, Geo News reported cable operators sources as saying.

Meanwhile, many offices of cable operators in Karachi have been set ablaze by angry activists of Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP).
Posted by: john frum || 08/08/2010 10:47 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  However, Presidential spokesman Farhatullah Babar rubbished the above report, saying there is no substance in it as he was himself present at the convention and no such incident took place during the President’s speech.

“I was sitting in the front row and I can confidently say that nobody threw anything,” Farhatullah Babar said while talking to Geo News.

On the other hand, Information Minister Qamar Zaman Kaira confirming the incident said that ‘highlighting a wrong act of a person would not be a right thing to do’ and added that the incident will be investigated.


Poor stupid Babar. in the midst of videos, photos and live coverage, he sticks to his guns. it was all a mirage.

what we need now is a cartoon of the event.
Posted by: Swanimote || 08/08/2010 11:29 Comments || Top||

#2  Um, why are they burning the news stations? Is like, "killing the messenger," since you didn't like the message?
Posted by: miscellaneous || 08/08/2010 18:33 Comments || Top||


Presidency delaying execution of terrorists
[The News (Pak) Top Stories] Dozens of convicted and condemned terrorists who should have been hanged are alive and well because the federal government and the Presidency are sitting over their mercy petitions, in some cases for over five years.

While the federal and provincial ministers are constantly and continuously accusing the judiciary of releasing the accused terrorists, official record shows that the execution of dozens of convicts, sentenced to death under the Anti Terrorism Act for killing innocent people, is pending because the Presidency is sitting on the convicts' mercy petitions.

From amongst the mercy petitions of the terrorists, convicted under ATA, there are some whose execution has been blocked by the Presidency since 2005. Under the Constitution, it is the prime minister on whose advice the President rejects or accepts such mercy petitions.

Amid mounting incidents of terrorism, ineffective intelligence, hopeless policing, poor prosecution and lack of useful counter-terror strategy, the government is trying to shift the blame on courts but its own lethargy in punishing terrorists has been quietly ignored.

According to official sources, in the case of Punjab alone, a total of 24 mercy petitions of condemned prisoners, sentenced to death under ATA, filed to the president are pending. There are almost 295 convicts, waiting on the death row but convicted in acts other than ATA, including Indian spy Manjeet Singh alias Sarbajeet Singh, are not being executed because of their pending mercy petitions.

In yet another category of such condemned prisoners, almost 49 convicts sentenced by the anti-terrorist courts in the Punjab but not under Section 7 of ATA, are also amongst those saved from execution because of their pending mercy petitions.

Because of poor police investigations and ineffective prosecution, a large number of accused terrorists are released by the courts for want of evidence. A recent report of the Rawalpindi district prosecutor, reported by The News, showed the pathetic performance of police, intelligence agencies, indifference of the concerned military officials and public prosecutors, which led to the release of the suspects involved in the otherwise high profile murder of a serving Surgeon General Lt General Mushtaq Beg in a Rawalpindi terrorist attack.

For similar reasons, the accused involved in certain other high profile cases, including Marriott Hotel attack, failed attempt on the life of ousted dictator Musharraf, too, have been released by the courts. Without keeping their own house in order, some of the provincial ministers and federal authorities have been trying to pass the buck to the judiciary.

However, the report of the Rawalpindi district prosecutor in the case of Lt Gen Mushtaq Beg's murder on the Mall Road, Rawalpindi terrorist attack and the decision of Tariq Pervez, head of the National Counter Terrorism Authority, to step down exposed the executive's seriousness to checking terrorism.

However, despite the poor conviction rate, it is believed the pronounced execution of the convicted terrorist and those involved in heinous crime help create much-needed deterrence against crime. Generally, the people believe that the terrorists and criminals are having a field day in today's Pakistan as they freely choose their target, hit and kill innumerable innocents and never caught. And those caught, the general belief is, are released by the courts for want of evidence.

Contrary to these general perceptions, the number of pending mercy petitions do suggest that despite all odds, terrorist and criminals are convicted here. However, their execution has been delayed because of the federal government and the Presidency's inability to immediately take a decision on their mercy petitions.

Some of the mercy petitions in cases where the condemned prisoners were given death sentences under ATA, are pending since 2005. In other cases, such mercy petitions are pending for many years, in cases even more than a decade.
Posted by: Fred || 08/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  Fine. As soon as they get their next military dictatorship, we can make a Fort Smith style gallows part of the military aid so they can catch up om the backlog. Hang 'em high...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 08/08/2010 0:56 Comments || Top||

#2  Gives them more time to fully rehabilitate, learn a skill, grow in their faith....etc. Oh wait.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/08/2010 5:22 Comments || Top||


Zardari: Pakistan Cannot Track Insurgents
[Tolo News] During his visit to London, Pakistan's President said his country's security forces are not able to find the insurgents' havens in Pakistan

In an interview with the Associated Press, Pakistani President, Asif Ali Zardari, underscored that in case the foreign forces stationed in Afghanistan share information about insurgent's sanctuaries in Pakistan, Pakistan will take action.

Previously top US officials in particular the US Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Admiral Mike Mullen had highlighted that Taliban and al-Qaeda leaders are in safe hideouts in Pakistan's soil.

A lack in the information and equipment are the pivotal challenges facing Pakistan government tracking militant's leaders, Mr Zardari said.

"I think if we need access to more information, we need more equipment; the drones for example should be under our position and should be given to us," he said.

Mr Zardari said the foreign forces fighting insurgency in Afghanistan have better facilities and arms and they should boost helping Pakistan in the fight against terrorism and insurgency.

"My army should have use of the drones, so that I don't lose thirty soldiers taking one stronghold with five Taliban in it because the terrain is very difficult," he said.

The remarks come some weeks after the WikiLeaks website unveiled more than 90,000 US military secret files on the Afghan war in which Pakistan intelligence's cooperation with the Taliban is vividly noted. The leaked documents have repeatedly been dismissed by the Pakistani military officials.
Posted by: Fred || 08/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  Those drones must be really pissing the terrorists off. All they do is complain.
Even the ACLU is all over it, so it must be working.

In my view: Increase drone attacks 24/7/365.4 X 10

Posted by: Mike Hunt || 08/08/2010 4:48 Comments || Top||

#2  A lack in the information and equipment US paid baksheesh are the pivotal challenges facing Pakistan government tracking militant's leaders, Mr Zardari said.

There, fully repaired and ready for consumption.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/08/2010 4:53 Comments || Top||

#3  "I think if we need access to more information, we need more equipment; the drones for example should be under our position and should be given to us," he said.
Posted by: john frum || 08/08/2010 13:49 Comments || Top||

#4  "Pakistan Cannot Will Not Track Insurgents"

FTFY
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 08/08/2010 14:20 Comments || Top||

#5  "My army should have use of the drones, so that I don't lose thirty soldiers taking one stronghold with five Taliban in it because the terrain is very difficult," he said.

Pay up!!
Posted by: Clyde Ulamp8999 || 08/08/2010 17:43 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Abbas aide: Religion of intl border troops irrelevant
[Ma'an] President Mahmoud Abbas is ready to give the okay for the deployment of international troops along the borders of a Palestinian state regardless of their religious affiliation, his political adviser told the government news agency WAFA on Saturday.

Nimir Hammad said reports, which he said surfaced in American media on the religion of the forces "were completely false, and president Abbas spoke more than once, during his meeting with leaders of the [American Israel Public Affairs Committee] AIPAC and in interviews with Israeli journalists confirming that he agrees on international forces regardless of the soldiers' religion."
Posted by: Fred || 08/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Palestinian Authority

#1  "I mean, they can be Shiite or Sunni or Sufi, or any other denomination of Islam"
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 08/08/2010 0:16 Comments || Top||

#2  As long as they know that Jews is a source of all evil?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/08/2010 7:45 Comments || Top||

#3  Howzabout a company of Knights Templar and a reinforced platoon or two from the Aryan Nations?
Posted by: SteveS || 08/08/2010 19:00 Comments || Top||


Hamas accuses Israel of Eilat rockets
Hamas, always the voice of sweet reason, accused Israel Saturday of launching the rockets that struck near Eilat and Jordan last week, as a pretext for further attacks against the Paleostinians. The six rockets killed one and wounded three more at the Intercontinental Hotel in Aqaba.

The terrorist group denied being behind the attacks, saying it had "no interest" in launching the rockets, also denying they were fired from the Sinai in Egypt.

Both Israel and Egypt blamed the attacks on Hamas, who denied any involvement.
"Tut tut and tut. Certainly not."
"We investigated these two incidents. It is clear to us beyond any doubt that in both incidents a cell of Hamas's military wing in Gazoo surreptitiously fired the missiles," Netanyahu said. "I want to be clear: Using the territory of a third country -- a peaceful one -- in order to launch missiles against Israel won't help Hamas escape responsibility."

Though Egypt initially denied the rockets were launched from the Sinai, it later changed its tune and affirmed that they had, blaming hard boy groups in the Gazoo Strip for the action, which they said had infiltrated via smuggling tunnels between Gazoo and Egypt.
Posted by: Fred || 08/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Hamas

#1  (Maxwell Smart) Chief, its the over under sideways down behind the back false flag operation.
Why didn't I see it before?
Posted by: Mike Hunt || 08/08/2010 4:42 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm surprised the liberals haven't cried foul yet. They would support a road apple if a terrorist gave it to them. At least the some of the world knows manure when they smell it.
Posted by: miscellaneous || 08/08/2010 6:59 Comments || Top||


Southeast Asia
Indonesian police seize jihad VCDs from terror suspect
The National Police has confiscated at least three VCDs on jihad from a terror suspect arrested in the West Java regency of Subang on Saturday. Local neighborhood chief Yayat told kompas.com the VCDs were titled “Al Aqsha liberation series-solution to Palestinian crisis”, “Afghanistan jihad-The journey of the oppressed”, and “Tears shed from Chechnya”. Subang police arrested AG, his wife and a relative on Saturday. The police also seized a motorcycle.

West Java police chief Insp. Gen. Sutarman said a total of five people were arrested in Bandung city, Subang regency, Padalarang in West Bandung regency and Cileunyi in Bandung regency on Saturday. Sutarman said the five people were allegedly involved in acts of terrorism in the country in the last few years. He added the arrests proved terror cells formed by Jamaah Islamiyah operators Noordin M. Top and Azahari bin Husin had remained alive.
Posted by: ryuge || 08/08/2010 01:24 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under: Jemaah Islamiyah


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
Lebanese Christian Leader Takes on Hezbollah
Posted by: miscellaneous || 08/08/2010 12:50 || Comments || Link || [12 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'll bet nobody's going to wanting to be anywhere near this guy for a long time. Brave man. Dead man.
3,2,1 ... boom!

Nasrullah - "Dem joos musta done it"
Posted by: Goober Goobelopolous || 08/08/2010 14:07 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm surprised he's still alive after the article. I guess it takes time for the homemade bombs, in between shake downs, stealing, extortion, rocket making, etc.
Posted by: miscellaneous || 08/08/2010 18:25 Comments || Top||


Lebanon building up army after Israel clash
[Al Arabiya Latest] Lebanon said on Saturday it was committed to building up its armed forces after complaints by Israel about Western assistance to the military following a deadly border clash between the two countries.

Two Lebanese soldiers, a Lebanese journalist and a senior Israeli officer were killed in a rare cross-border skirmish on Tuesday, the worst such violence since a 2006 war between Israel and Iranian-backed Hezbollah guerrillas.

The clash -- in which Lebanon and Israel gave different accounts of what happened -- raised fears of wider conflict. Both countries have since worked to calm tension at the border.Lebanon said on Saturday it was committed to building up its armed forces after complaints by Israel about Western assistance to the military following a deadly border clash between the two countries.

Two Lebanese soldiers, a Lebanese journalist and a senior Israeli officer were killed in a rare cross-border skirmish on Tuesday, the worst such violence since a 2006 war between Israel and Iranian-backed Hezbollah guerrillas.

The clash -- in which Lebanon and Israel gave different accounts of what happened -- raised fears of wider conflict. Both countries have since worked to calm tension at the border.

Speaking in the southern Lebanese village of Adaisseh where the clash occurred, President Michel Suleiman said the cabinet would meet to ratify a three- or five-year plan to arm the military "so that it can protect the nation's dignity".

"The government will put forth a plan to arm the army regardless of the position of some countries," Suleiman was quoted as saying by the National News Agency. He did not say when the plan would be approved.

Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak said he had spoken to France and the United States about the Jewish state's worries.

"We think it is a mistake to arm the Lebanese army with weapons, with advanced systems," Barak said in an interview with Israel Radio earlier this week.

"Because these things are liable to be -- we used to describe the danger that these things would end up in Hezbollah hands, but before our eyes something more troubling is happening, and they are being used directly by the Lebanese army against us."

Asked whether Paris or Washington had paid attention to Israel's complaint, Barak said: "Not really. Not really.

Hezbollah did not take part in the clash, although its leader, Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah, said his powerful Shiite guerrillas would intervene if Israel attacked the army again.

By Israel's account of Tuesday's events, a Lebanese army sniper hit two Israeli officers as they watched a tree-pruning operation on the security fence below the U.N. "Blue Line". The Lebanese army said it first fired warning shots, then Israelis fired at their soldiers. Israeli artillery and tank fire followed.

The United States has provided more than $720 million in assistance to the Lebanese army since 2006, according to the U.S. embassy website.

In Washington, asked whether the United States was confident the Lebanese army was not being "manipulated by any particular political group", State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley said:

"We are, as we've said many times, we're in support of the civilian government in Lebanon," he said according to a transcript of an Aug. 5 daily press briefing.

"And we think improving the capability and performance of the Lebanese government, both across the government, but including in the security sector, contributes to stability in the region and is in our interest."
Posted by: Fred || 08/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [10 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "And we think improving the capability and performance of the Lebanese government, both across the government, but including in the security sector, contributes to stability in the region and is in our interest."

For certain values of our.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/08/2010 7:49 Comments || Top||

#2  President Michel Suleiman said the cabinet would meet to ratify a three- or five-year plan to arm the military "so that it can protect the nation's dignity"

These bozos will be lucky if they are still alive in three to five months. As for the "nation's dignity", that died sometime around 1958.
Posted by: rwv || 08/08/2010 21:51 Comments || Top||

#3  FREEREPUBLIC > [Ahmadinejad]IRAN OFFERS LEBANON FULL SUPPORT, in case of Israeli attack.

* ISRAEL NN > SAMARIA WARNS ISRAEL: DO NOT BE ANOTHER SDEROT [IDF pullback only resulted in expanded Militant activities].

and

* SAME INN > AHMADINEJAD TO VISIT LEBANON AS NORHERN AXIS [Iran, Syria, Turkey, HIZBULLAH + HAMAS] AGZ ISRAEL.

* PAKISTANI DEFENCE FORUMS > [Poster OpEd-Survey]IS IT TIME FOR CHINA TO HELP BUILD NUCLEAR REACTORS FOR IRAN, CUBA?
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 08/08/2010 23:45 Comments || Top||


Lebanon in shock after ex-general's arrest on spy charges
[Al Arabiya Latest] This week's arrest of a well-respected retired general and politician allied with Hezbollah on suspicion of spying for Israel has sent shock waves through Lebanon and left many wondering how deep the Jewish state has infiltrated the country.

Fayez Karam, a member of the Christian Free Patriotic Movement (FPM), is the first political figure to be arrested in Lebanon as part of a wide-ranging probe launched in 2009 into Israeli spy networks.

A well-informed source close to the investigation said that after his detention last Monday on the orders of the prosecutor general, Karam confessed to spying for Israel.

"You don't arrest someone like him without rock-solid proof and there was enough evidence against him," the source, who requested anonymity, said.

"He may not have given the Israelis much technical information, but his arrest has a huge political impact because of his position and rank," he added.

He said Karam, 62, who stood in parliamentary elections last year, allegedly used cell phones with roaming numbers from European countries to contact his Israeli handlers.

He reportedly met them in Paris, where he travelled regularly, and was nabbed because of an unspecified mistake.

Ironically, in the 1980s Karam headed the Lebanese army's anti-terrorism and counter-espionage unit where he worked closely with FPM leader Michel Aoun, who was army chief at the time and who also served as interim prime minister.
Posted by: Fred || 08/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under: Hezbollah

#1  Hezbollah doesn't need Christian allies anymore?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 08/08/2010 7:51 Comments || Top||

#2  What _can_ the Christians do about it? Nothing. What are the Christians sure the Israelis are gonna do about it? Nothing; Israel thought in the interests of Piece that they'd let Syria have their country and have all the people who sided with Israel in the '80's war eaten by the Syrians for lunch.

So given the choice between having their families killed by Syria _today_ and having their families killed by Israeli return fire _tomorrow_, well, they pick being killed _tomorrow_ and tell themselves between now and then maybe the Horse will learn to sing.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 08/08/2010 10:54 Comments || Top||


Spies could have manipulated Hariri's death's evidence:Hezbollah
Hezbullies has suggested Israel could have used telecom agents to manipulate evidence such as phone records to implicate the group in the 2005 assassination of former prime minister Rafik al-Hariri.
... or it could be tentacled sentient cephalapods from Arcturus acting through telepathically controlled proxies... Or maybe they're from Uranus. Or maybe Hezbullies dunnit and now they're shifting the blame onto the usual prayer-shawled shoulders...
Lebanese President Michel Suleiman has called for severe punishment for spies and said if a death sentence is submitted to him for approval, he will sign it. Two other Lebanese have been sentenced to death for spying for the Jewish state.
Posted by: Fred || 08/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under: Hezbollah

#1  The el warren report...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 08/08/2010 1:07 Comments || Top||

#2  tell you the truth ,it's been 5 years. shut the fuck up.
Posted by: chris || 08/08/2010 12:08 Comments || Top||


'If attacked, Iran will annihilate US'
A top Iranian commander has warned that in the event of a US-led military attack on Iran, the Islamic Republic will go after the United States until its "annihilation."

"If Americans attempt to launch an attack against the sacred establishment of the Islamic Republic, they will encounter our firm and decisive defense and we will not let them off," commander of the anti-aircraft post of the Khatamolanbia Headquarters Brigadier General Ahmad Miqani said Saturday.

He went on to add that the US had been issuing threats against Iran for the past 31 years and "such threats are propaganda and psychological warfare."

"Over the past decade the US has militarily attacked Iraq and Afghanistan and killed hundreds of thousands of people but in the end it suffered defeat," Brig. Gen. Miqani was quoted by IRNA as saying.

The remarks come after Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Admiral Mike Mullen said on Sunday the US military is prepared to risk a potentially devastating war in order to stop Iran from building nuclear "weapons."

The US, which possesses and has used nuclear weapons in the past, accuses Iran of pursuing a military nuclear program. Tehran rejects the charges, arguing that as a signatory to the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty and the International Atomic Energy Agency it has the right to use nuclear technology.
Posted by: Fred || 08/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  The only reason the US ever pursued Nukes was because the NAZIS were - like you.

The only reason they were used is because they would not stop.

Do I sound Jewish?
Jesus Christ!

No quarter
Posted by: newc || 08/08/2010 1:19 Comments || Top||

#2  ...as the Yardbirds once said: Shapes of Things to Come
Posted by: Mike Hunt || 08/08/2010 4:35 Comments || Top||

#3 
Shapes of Things to Come was by Frost and the Troopers.

Shape of Things- Yardbirds.
Posted by: HammerHead || 08/08/2010 9:21 Comments || Top||

#4  These guys need a poster. That's worked exceedingly well for the NKor's.




Now all I need is help with my Farsi.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 08/08/2010 11:49 Comments || Top||

#5  Mulla Richard:
Here you go:
مرگ بر آمریکا
from the Farsi Wikipedia page, whose translated title is "Death to America"
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/08/2010 12:02 Comments || Top||

#6  "Potentially devastating war to stop Iran frm dev Nuclear Weapons" > IOW, ADM. MULLEN is trying HARD NOT TO SAY "NUCLEAR TERROR" [Nukulaar Militancy-Insurgency-Terrorism].

IRAN ISLAMIST NUC STATE > SYMBOL + "DOOR/GATEWAY"
for the NUKES-WMDS MILTERR that will Regionally, Globally occur after.

* OTOH WMF > THE US PLANS WAR ON IRAN TO INDIRECTLY NULL OR DESTROY RISING CHINA'S US$30.0BILYUHN OF ECON + ENERGY INVESTMENTS IN IRAN.

* WMF > TSINGHUA UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR: CHINA AT PRESENT CANNOT MILPOL CHALLENGE THE US, NOR FIGHT A PROTRACTIVE OR DECADES(S)-LONG, GLOBAL CONVENTIONAL WAR AGZ THE US DUE DEFECTS IN ITS MODERN ECONOMY. CPLA CAN CURR WAGE ONLY ASYMMETRIC MILITANT WAR OR CONVENTIONAL, LIMITED NUCLEAR DEFENSIVE REGIONAL/LOCAL WAR.



Posted by: JosephMendiola || 08/08/2010 21:25 Comments || Top||

#7  Are WE in a Jeff Beck trivia contest here or THE Battle for Our Country (USA) and the futures of Our Children and Grand-children?
Posted by: Asymmetrical Triangulation || 08/08/2010 21:54 Comments || Top||

#8  Joe, it took me a while to realize that WMF means What Must Follow.
Posted by: rwv || 08/08/2010 21:55 Comments || Top||


US seeks to drag Iran into Afghan war
[Iran Press TV Latest] Following the US president's proposal to hold talks with Iran about Afghanistan, an Iranian lawmaker says Barack Obama wants to drag the Islamic Republic into the Afghan war.

On Thursday, Obama proposed to hold talks with Iran on Afghanistan since the two countries have "mutual interest" in fighting the Taliban and said, "Iran should be a part of that and could be a constructive partner."

"Obama's recent remarks about only holding talks with Iran on issues involving Afghanistan show that the US wants to use Iran's historical influence in Afghanistan to remedy its problems," member of the Majlis National Security and Foreign Policy Commission Heshmatollah Falahatpisheh said on Saturday.

"Americans who are moving targets themselves want to place Iran in front of Taliban forces like a fixed target," ILNA quoted Falahatpisheh as saying.

Falahatpisheh went on to say that most of Washington's problems with the Taliban do not concern Iran and added, "The US takes advantage of Iran's friendly and peace-seeking policy to solve its problems."

The Iranian lawmaker proposed Tehran present the issues it wants in the form of a package that could include the problems of Afghanistan and Iraq, Iran's nuclear issue and the 30-year dispute between the two countries.

The proposal for negotiation with Iran about Afghanistan comes as the White House earlier rejected a call from President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad for face-to-face talks with his American counterpart.
Posted by: Fred || 08/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  At first I thought the theory presented in the headline sounded silly.

But after reading this piece, I think he's half right...

Pres. Obama would apparently prefer that Afghanistan fall under Pakistan and Iran influence rather than Russian or Indian influence.
Posted by: American Delight || 08/08/2010 7:57 Comments || Top||

#2  @#1, don't even say that. That's scares me more than Iran getting nukes. Is this report accurate? He is aware Iran loves funding terrorism?
Posted by: miscellaneous || 08/08/2010 12:41 Comments || Top||

#3  Not a bad idea actually.
Posted by: Shipman || 08/08/2010 14:05 Comments || Top||

#4  "He is aware Iran loves funding terrorism?"

He who - Bambi? I'm sure he knows, and it's a desirable feature to him, not a bug, misc. >:-(
Posted by: Barbara Skolaut || 08/08/2010 14:31 Comments || Top||

#5  Can one believe anything coming out of Iran? Can one believe anything coming out of the ONE?
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/08/2010 15:51 Comments || Top||


Ahmadinejad: 9/11 death toll was exaggerated
Iranian President says no Zionists were killed in the World Trade Center because 'one day earlier they were told not go to their workplace.'

Iranian President Mahmoud Short Round Ahmadinejad said on Saturday the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks were exaggerated in a fresh broadside at the United States just days after U.S. President Barack B.O. Obama voiced willingness to talk to Iran.

Well-known for his loose grasp of reality, the hardline populist Ahmadinejad also repeated his denial of the Holocaust, on which the consensus of historians is that six million Jews were exterminated by Nazi Germany.
"Nope. Nope. Never happened. I asked around to make sure."
Ahmadinejad said the Sept. 11 attacks with hijacked airliners on New York and Washington D.C. had been trumped up as an excuse for the United States to invade Afghanistan and Iraq.
"They wuz just lookin' for a reason!"
Speaking at a Tehran conference, Ahmadinejad said there was no evidence that the number of dead at New York's World Trade Center, destroyed in the attacks, was as high as reported and said "Zionists" had been tipped off in advance.
We saw that report. It came from al-Manar, in Beirut, a day or two after the attack.
"What was the story of Sept. 11? During five to six days, and with the aid of the media, they created and prepared public opinion so that everyone considered an attack on Afghanistan and Iraq as (their) right," he said in a televised speech.

No "Zionists" were killed in the World Trade Center, according to Ahmadinejad, because "one day earlier they were told not go to their workplace".

"They announced that 3,000 people were killed in this incident, but there were no reports that reveal their names. Maybe you saw that, but I did not," he told a gathering of the Iranian news media.
I believe they're read out every year in a ceremony on September 11th.
There is a published list of Sept. 11 dead from more than 90 countries available online.
But what's that count for?
A total of 2,995 people were killed in the attacks, including 19 hijackers and all passengers and crew aboard four commandeered airliners, according to official U.S. figures. The United States blamed the assaults on al Qaida, led by Saudi-born Sunni Mohammedan fundamentalist Osama Bin Laden.

Ahmadinejad accused the U.S. government of exercising more media censorship than anywhere in the world.

He had previously said the "9-11" attacks were a "big fabrication" and has rejected the historical record of the Holocaust. On Saturday, Ahmadinejad repeated his belief that the
Holocaust had been invented to justify the creation of Israel. "They made up an event, the so-called Holocaust which was later laid as the basis for the innocence of a group," he said.

Ahmadinejad last week challenged Obama to a televised debate on global issues during his trip to the United Nations General Assembly in New York in September.

Two years ago he asked to visit the site of the World Trade Center "to pay his respects" but New York police refused.

Washington succeeded in June in getting a fourth round of UN Security Council sanctions imposed on Iran to pressure it to suspend its disputed nuclear program. Tougher U.S. and European measures have further tightened restrictions on doing business with the major OPEC country.

Obama signaled on Thursday he was open to talks with the Islamic Republic and was seeking "a clear set of steps that we would consider sufficient to show that they are not pursuing nuclear weapons".
Ahmadinejad has said he is prepared to return to international talks, which were last held in October, but insists that Iran has the sovereign right to enrich uranium.
Posted by: Fred || 08/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran

#1  Dinnerjacket just keeps rolling out this nonsense. What a moron. The Adolph Hitler of the Mideast. Maybe more like Joseph Goebbels.


“Think of the press as a great keyboard on which the government can play.”

“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” Goebbels.
Posted by: JohnQC || 08/08/2010 12:25 Comments || Top||


Ahmadinejad aide angers Iran conservatives
[Al Arabiya Latest] A controversial close aide to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has incurred the wrath of Iranian conservatives who accused him of making "pagan" remarks about religion, media reported on Saturday.

"There are different interpretations of Islam, but our understanding of the real nature of Iran and of Islam is the Iranian school. From now on, we must present to the world the school of Iran," the president's chief of staff Esfandiar Rahim Mashaie said at a conference for Iranians living abroad.

His comments provoked a backlash from conservative politicians and clerics.
"Equating the school of Iran and the school of Islam amounts to pagan nationalism, which the people of Iran have never accepted," said Ayatollah Ahmad Khatami, normally a close ally of the president.

Another hardline cleric, Ayatollah Mohammad Yazdi, condemned Mashaie for having "once again made erroneous and inappropriate statements."

Mashaie, a close relative of Ahmadinejad, has provoked similar controversy in the past.

He was forced to step down as first vice president in July last year after a row over his remark that Iran was a friend of the Israeli people. He was subsequently made the president's chief of staff.

Several conservative MPs called on Ahmadinejad to account for Mashaie's remarks on "Iranian" Islam.

"It's a betrayal of Islam and of Iran. The president must clarify his position on this individual who uses official forums to express views that are against the constitution, Islam and Iran," conservative MP Ahmad Tavakoli was reported as saying.
Posted by: Fred || 08/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Iran


Terror Networks
Fla. mom says Shukrijumah is not a high-ranking al Qaeda terrorist, but a kind boy
The FBI says Adnan Shukrijumah is a dangerous al Qaeda operative, but his mom, who lives in Miramar, Fla., says he is kind, loving, and caring boy, the Florida Sun Sentinel reported late Friday.

Federal officials in the United States say the former Broward Community College student who spent 15 years in South Florida with his mother and five siblings is now head of global operations for al Qaeda.

In that capacity, Shukrijumah is allegedly in charge of planning attacks on the U.S. and other western countries, a position once held by Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who was captured in 2003.

"It's not true," his mother, Zurah Adbu Ahmed, told the Sun Sentinel on Friday when told of the FBI's latest findings. "I don't know. But I don't think it's true. He's a kind, loving, caring boy."

She has not heard from her son, now 35, in many years, Adbu Ahmed said.

According to his mom, Shukrijumah does have very strong feelings about American policy as it pertains to the Mohammedan world. But that "doesn't make him a terrorist," she noted. She added that he would never kill anyone because she taught him not to.

"If you kill one person it's like you kill a whole nation," she said. "He knows that well. He will not kill people. He is gentle and kind."

The FBI tells a different story. It named Shukrijumah as an al Qaeda conspirator in 2003, adding that he became convinced that he needed to join the jihad following conflicts in Bosnia and Chechnya in the 1990s. That led him to training camps in Afghanistan where he learned battle tactics and surveillance techniques.

The FBI says he is the only high ranking al Qaeda official with intimate knowledge of the United States and a U.S. green card. They are offering $5 million for information leading to his capture.

He is accused, and has been charged by federal prosecutors in Brooklyn, of being the person who recruiting and training three New Yorkers to plan a series of attacks on the New York City subway system.

Shukrijumah, who was born in Saudi Arabia and was raised in the United States, had a job assembling telephone components for Motorola. His mother said he was seeking new opportunity and flew to Trinidad a week before Sept. 11 to look into a new business venture.

He called a few days after the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon and his mother told him not to come home because Mohammedans were going to become targets.

She said she does not know where he is and is worried the United States will try to assassinate him.
Posted by: Fred || 08/08/2010 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under: al-Qaeda

#1  I guess that proves Moms are blind to their children's wrongdoing.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 08/08/2010 0:42 Comments || Top||

#2  This just in: Hitler's mom remembers happy family at home...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 08/08/2010 1:05 Comments || Top||

#3  Is it complicity, or just stupidity? In any case is she a citizen or on a green card? She should be deported on general principle.
Posted by: anymouse || 08/08/2010 2:53 Comments || Top||

#4  The FBI says he is the only high ranking al Qaeda official with intimate knowledge of the United States and a U.S. green card.

Yep he's the only one. We've been watching him for over ten years.... whilst he was a low ranker, he and MAJ Hasan out in Texas. None of 'em left after we catch and release him, none, nada, zip.
Posted by: Besoeker || 08/08/2010 4:49 Comments || Top||

#5  She has not heard from her son, now 35, in many years...well how good of a son can he be?...he's been way too long at the Boys Scout camp.

Ricard Specks' mother said that he was such a kidder and always in his room building model airplanes.
Posted by: HammerHead || 08/08/2010 9:47 Comments || Top||

#6  Sorry but his mom makes as much sense as this sign.

Posted by: Goodluck || 08/08/2010 12:05 Comments || Top||

#7  Nobody loves me but my mother,
And she could be jivin', too

--- B. B. King
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 08/08/2010 12:17 Comments || Top||

#8  Compare wid RENSE > NEW "AL QAEDA" LEADER MAY BE ISRAELI???

ARTIC FEEEDBACK > "Israel Theory" POSTER > argues that ADNAN may be a PATSY for a MOSSAD PLOT TO DETONATE A NUCBOMB(S) INSIDE THE USA???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 08/08/2010 20:55 Comments || Top||

#9  Also from RENSE > [US] HAARP USED IN PAKISTAN FLOODS?

and

WMF > RUSSIAN INTERIOR MINISTRY WARNS OF RETALIATION IFF PROOF FOUND THAT THE THE US USED ADVANCED SPACE/LASER WEAPONS TO INTENTIONALLY AND MALICIOUSLY IGNITE NATIONWIDE FIRES IN HEAT-WAVE STRICKEN RUSSIA.

OTHER > FIRES > Russia allegedly may had lost up to US$30.0BILYUHN worth of its domestic wheat crop due to on-going heat wave [fires] + other factors. ONE OF RUSSIA'S MAJOR RESEARCH NUCFACS IS UNDER FIRE THREAT.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 08/08/2010 21:06 Comments || Top||



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