[Tolo News] Ahmad Zia Massoud, the former vice-president and the brother of Ahmad Shah Massoud, Wednesday accused Pakistain's ISI of being directly behind Massoud's liquidation.
Ahmad Zia Massoud said Osama Bin Laden, the former leader of al-Qaeda terror network, assassinated Ahmad Shah Massoud under the instruction of Pakistain.
Not personally, though. The former Mr. bin Laden was more of an idea man. He was keen on gleaming white robes and a well-brushed beard... not on anything that involved getting sweaty or dirty. That's what henchmen are for.
People close to Ahmad Shah Massoud see the presence of Pakistain's Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI) as a big threat to Afghanistan and the region.
On 9 September 2001, two days before the 9/11, two Arab nationals posing as journalists assassinated Ahmad Shah Massoud, the national hero of Afghanistan, in his base in northern Afghanistan after winning a chance to interview him.
"Ahmad Shah Massoud was an obstacle to Pakistain and some other neighbouring countries, so they plotted to get him assassinated by a terrorist organisation," Ahmad Zia Massoud, the brother of Massoud, said.
Some of Ahmad Shah Massoud's relatives criticise the Afghan government of not pursuing a thorough investigation into the liquidation.
"Regretfully, the investigations have not gone further from the time they started," Afghan Ambassador in Spain, Massoud Khalili, said.
"The factory of bad turban networks in the region and in particular in Afghanistan is run by Pakistain's military intelligence organisation," Ahmad Wali Massoud, head of Massoud foundation and Massoud's brother, said.
Two days after Massoud's liquidation the world was shocked by the 9/11 attacks carried out by al-Qaeda terror network.
The comments come after Osama Bin Laden was killed in Pakistain in an operation by US special forces. Osama's death in Pakistain was seen as a proof that the country was harbouring terrorists.
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Why not, as even many mainstream/ordinary Pakistanis have serious doubts about Islamabad's version as per OBL's hiding out + death ...
To wit,
* GUAM PDN > PAKISTANIS DOUBT GOVERNMENT CLAIMS ABOUT KNOWLEDGE OF BIN LADEN.
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You can thank President Zia for people like Hamid Gul,Perv and Co.
Well said, Black Bart Phuling7750. The poor dear just couldn't handle losing East Pakistan and the dream of the Indian caliphate. He and the rump of Pakistan overcompensated a little thereafter. Land of the Pure, forsooth!
In an attempt to portray itself as an ally in the battle against al-Qaeda, Libya reminded the United States on Wednesday that Moammar Gaddafis government, not anyone in Washington, was the first to issue an arrest warrant against Osama bin Laden, back in 1998.
The warrant, approved by Interpol, came after two German anti-terrorism agents were gunned down in the Libyan city of Sirte in 1994, an attack the government in Tripoli blamed on the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, a militant organization linked to al-Qaeda.
Five months after the warrant was issued, al-Qaeda carried out coordinated bombings on the U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, killing more than 200 people.
[Maghrebia] Algeria's Council of Ministers on Monday (May 2nd) approved a draft amendment to the Penal Code that decriminalises press offences, APS reported. In another press reform move, Algeria will also launch a large-scale campaign to train and support journalists, Algerian President Abdelaziz Bouteflika ... 10th president of Algeria. He was elected in 1999 and is currently on his third term, which is probably why Algerians are ready to dump him... said Tuesday in a speech marking World Press Freedom Day.
On Monday, Bouteflika appointed senate speaker Abdelkader Bensalah to lead a new constitutional revision panel. The committee will meet with political parties, unions, and other civil society actors to discuss the proposed Algerian constitutional amendments.
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The chief prosecutor for the International Criminal Court ... where Milosevich died of old age before being convicted ... (ICC) has told the UN Security Council that he will seek three arrest warrants for crimes against humanity in Libya.
Charges against the three members of the Libyan government may include murder and unlawful detention, use of cluster bombs and rape as a weapon, Luis Moreno-Ocampo said on Wednesday.
The UN Security Council referred the Libyan violence to the ICC in February.
Moreno-Ocampo is investigating Libyan leader Muammar Qadaffy ... a proud Arab institution for 42 years ... , some of his sons and aides over a "pre-determined plan" to attack protesters.
He did not, however, name the targets of the arrest warrants, which he said he will request in several weeks for crimes against humanity committed in Libya since February 15.
"Crimes against humanity have been and continue to be committed in Libya, attacking unarmed civilians including killings and persecutions in many cities across Libya," the prosecutor said in a statement.
The prosecutor added that he was also investigating the deaths of dozens of sub-Saharan Africans in the rebel capital of Benghazi by an "angry mob" who believed they were mercenaries for Qadaffy.
Khalid Kaim, the Libyan deputy foreign minister, dismissed the ICC allegations saying Moreno-Ocampo's report painted a partial picture.
"Any decision or any conclusion can Mr. Ocampo draw out of his visit to Benghazi and to Egypt will be just one party review or one party position," Kaim said.
"Of course, since we are not party of the ICC, we cannot invite Mr. Ocampo but instead of that we can invite another fact-finding mission from the [UN] Security Council."
Rape as a weapon
Moreno-Ocampo said there were allegations that Africans from other nations had been attacked in rebel territory because they were thought to be mercenaries.
Alleged criminal incidents include security forces opening live fire at unarmed peaceful protesters, using rape as well as "systemic arrests, torture, killings, deportations, enforced disappearances and destruction of mosques" as a weapon, according to the prosecutor's report.
While a precise number is hard to provide, up to 700 people were killed in February alone, the report said. Qadaffy estimates that "only 150 or 200" have been killed.
The United Nations ...aka the Oyster Bay Chowder and Marching Society... High Commissioner for Refugees has said almost 40,000 people decamped fighting in western Libya last month.
"Not obliged"
Moreno-Ocampo urged states to prepare for arrests should ICC judges decide to issue warrants, stressing "now is the time to start planning on how to implement possible arrest warrants."
The ICC has no police force and relies on state co-operation to enforce arrests. Despite NATO ...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Originally it was a mutual defense pact directed against an expansionist Soviet Union. In later years it evolved into a mechanism for picking the American pocket while criticizing the style of the American pants... bombing operations that are intended to protect civilians, Libya has been plunged into civil war, seriously complicating efforts to arrest ICC suspects.
Libya is not an ICC member state and is therefore not obliged to arrest the court's suspects. Several members of the UN security council - the United States, Russia and China - are not ICC members, but voted in favour of referring Libya to the court.
The International Federation for Human Rights (FIDH), a Gay Paree-base alliance of international human rights ...which are often intentionally defined so widely as to be meaningless... organisations, welcomed the prosecutor's report on Wednesday.
"FIDH stresses that this was an unprecedented move: it was the first unanimous referral the ICC has ever received from the Security Council and this referral led to the opening of an investigation within only 5 days," the organisation said in a statement.
NATO criticised There was also growing criticism of air strikes on Libya by the NATO military alliance.
UN Security Council powers publicly crossed swords over the Libya conflict on Wednesday with Russia and China leading criticism of international coalition air raids.
Both called for greater efforts to reach a ceasefire. La Belle France reaffirmed the West's case that the international community had to intervene to defend civilians.
Vitaly Churkin, Russia's UN envoy, raised alarm at the growing number of civilian casualties in the Libyan conflict.
"Unfortunately it must be noted that actions by NATO-led coalition forces also lead to civilian casualties. This took place in particular during recent bombings of Tripoli," Churkin told the 15-nation Security Council.
Russia and China accuse the coalition of going beyond the UN mandate, particularly with strikes such as a raid on Saturday in which one of Qadaffy's sons and three of his grandchildren were killed.
"Any disproportionate use of force is unacceptable," Churkin said.
China called for the "complete and strict implementation" of Security Council resolutions.
"We are not in favor of any arbitrary interpretation of the council's resolutions nor are we in favor of any actions that go beyond its mandate," Li Baodong, China's envoy, said.
Giovanni Martinelli, the Vatican's delegate in Tripoli, called for a halt to NATO air strikes in Libya and for the West to negotiate with Qadaffy's government.
"I am speaking in the name of my conscience and in the name of my role as pastor and also in the name of the Gospels,'' Martinelli said, after attending Qadaffy's son funeral.
"We are strong when we can find dialogue and Qadaffy is not against dialogue," Martinelli said.
That position contrasts with that of NATO, which has refused a call by the African Union ...a union consisting of 53 African states, most run by dictators of one flavor or another. The only all-African state not in the AU is Morocco. Established in 2002, the AU is the successor to the Organisation of African Unity (OAU), which was even less successful... to negotiate a ceasefire between Gadhafi's regime and the rebels trying to oust him. NATO has refused to cut back its operations to give space to diplomatic initiatives.
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Libya is not an ICC member state and is therefore not obliged to arrest the court's suspects. Several members of the UN security council - the United States, Russia and China - are not ICC members, but voted in favour of referring Libya to the court.
You got that. Some members have referred a fellow member to an institution of which it's not a signatory. And the institution is one that referral members themselves have refused to be signatories. Gee whiz...this Global Governance stuff sure can be confusing. It's almost as if they can do whatever the fuck they want.
[Bangla Daily Star] Detained Bangladesh Jamaat-e-Islami ... a Pakistani catspaw remaining active in Bangla politix, loosely affiliated with the Pak religious party of the same name and closely affiliated with most of the terror organizations in Bangla. A member of the BNP's four party governing coalition.... Ameer Motiur Rahman Nizami will be quizzed at a Dhanmondi safe house on Thursday in connection with war crime charges.
The Sherlocks will also interrogate jugged Jamaat Secretary General Ali Ahsan Muhammad Mojahid on May 8 at the same house on similar charges.
The International Crimes Tribunal on April 21 allowed the Sherlocks to interrogate Nizami and Mojahid on two dates in a "Safe Home" in Dhanmondi.
They will be interrogated from 10:00am to 5:00pm.
Investigator Md Abdur Razzak Khan informed it to Md Tajul Islam, counsel for the two Jamaat leaders, on Tuesday.
The Sherlocks through a letter informed Md Tajul Islam that they have fixed the dates to interrogate the Jamaat leaders as per the order of International Crimes Tribunal.
Tajul Islam received the letter on Wednesday.
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[Tolo News] Tajikistan has stopped four huge Afghan transit companies operating there, Association of Afghanistan Freight Forwarder Companies (AAFFCO) said on Tuesday.
Officials in Afghan Chamber of Commerce and Industries (ACCI) said Afghan transit companies were providing better services compared to companies run by Tajiks.
In the past one year lack of sufficient papers were the only reason the companies were banned, but there is no apparent reason for closure of these four companies.
"Our transit companies had taken control of market," Head of AAFFCO Abdul Halim Yosuf said.
But Deputy Head of ACCI said the closure of the companies in Tajikistan could be mainly because of a lack of transit agreement between Afghanistan and Tajikistan.
"Afghans were skilful in transportation and had provided good transit services," Deputy Head of ACCI Khan Jan Alokozai said.
The transit companies have been banned as recently Tajikistan increased taxes over Afghan commodities by 60 percent.
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Al Qaeda chief the late Osama bin Laden ... who no longer exists... was betrayed by his deputy Ayman al- Zawahiri who led US forces to his hideout as the two were involved in an intense power struggle, a Saudi newspaper has reported.
If we had a CIA that was competent at all we'd be spreading that rumor everywhere, along with the rumor that it was also Mullah Omar, Perv Musharraf, President Ten-Percent, and Short Round.
The two top al Qaeda men had differences and the courier who led US forces to bin Laden was working and had more loyalties for Zawahiri, al Watan newspaper reported quoting Arab sources.
"The Egyptian faction of al-Qaeda led by Zawahiri was defacto running the militant group, after bin Laden was taken ill in 2004 and they were trying to take full control," the paper said.
The courier was a Pakistani national and not a Kuwaiti as the US suspected and the man knew he was being followed but disguised the fact.
Knew he was being followed? Please. If the CIA is on the ball it spreads the story that we had pics of the courier and his goat, and the courier rolled over for us.
The paper claimed it was Zawahiri's faction which had persuaded Osama to leave tribal areas close to Afghanistan- Pakistan border to take shelter instead in Abbottabad, where he was finally killed by US SEALs on Monday.
The plan to dispose off bin Laden had by a prominent al-Qaeda commander Saif al Adel of Egyptian descent, who returned to Pakistan from Iran, last autumn.
Oh yes, let's get the Iranians in on the conspiracy...
Al Adel had reportedly escaped to Iran escorting Osama's other son and family members after 9/11.
Al-Adel is a member of the majlis al shura of al-Qaeda and a member of its military committee, and he provided military and intelligence training to members of al-Qaeda and Egyptian Islamic Jihad in Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Sudan, and to anti-UN Somali tribes.
Because it's always a good idea to get your military training from a guy whose country hasn't ever won a war...
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The conspiracy theorists are working over time.
I fully expect a serious piece of journalism in a well respected Pakistani newspaper to claim that OBL/UBL(who cares he's dead) was abducted by aliens and the wounds on his body were part of some gruesome experiment. The DEVGRU was sent into recover his mutating and radioactive body to dispose of it. When members of the DEVGRU developed sores, tenacles and antenna, it was thought best to dispose of his body at sea. Of course, there has been a huge fish die off in the area and strange green glowing lights seen underwater.
How's that for an OBL conspiracy story???
Pretty good huh?
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Goat Boy Gadahn. Watch him, doc. A former infidel and an American? I mean, isn't it kinda obvious?
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Because it's always a good idea to get your military training from a guy whose country hasn't ever won a war...
Now, now - they smacked Uncle Mo but good in that little four-day border cotillion in '77, so they're not completely winless. Of course, even the Chadians have kicked Gaddafi around the laundry room, so maybe that isn't all that impressive.
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I thought Ayman Al Zawahiri turned in Bin Laden in return for
a promise not to prosecute CAIR, or
agreeing to leave Janet Neapolitano at DHS,or
free TV coverage of the div I NCAA basketball tournament
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(1) Assad betrayed Bin Laden---that's why Americans let that Alawite dog butcher Sirian Sunnis.
(2) Saudis have betrayed Bin Laden---that's why Americans let these Sunni dogs butcher Bahraini Shiites.
:-)
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The article seems to suppose that the courier who actually betrayed Osama would do so at the risk of his own life in the raid, since Osama was living in his own house.
It also repeats that misinformation that Osama was somehow ill. His autopsy showed that he was in good health and had no health issues, chronic or acute. That baloney about his having a kidney ailment was bogus. Rumsfeld was correct several years ago when he stated that the only information he had of any ailment was speculation in the media and he assumed Osama was in good health.
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Nope. Sadr dropped the dime. Its where Dinnerjacket has been the last couple days, oversight. Iran discovered Pakistan knowingly supplied a virus (they blamed it on the US/Israel hegemony, but in fact) bought/given from the Chinese so that both countries would have a nuclear ally in the region yet have hands on a leash. Sadr's contacts with AQ etc. during the fight with the Americans allowed Iranian/Sadr agents to leak small yet important pieces of information.
The US had better be careful or Pakistan will stomp its twiddle feet and demand more jizya and then where would we be?
PAKISTAN warned the US of "disastrous consequences" if it carries out any more unauthorised raids against suspected terrorists like the one that killed Osama bin Laden.
Hokay, so next time we get the Ruritanians to do it for us...
However, the government in Islamabad stopped short of labelling Monday's helicopter raid on bin Laden's compound not far from the capital Islamabad as an illegal operation and insisted relations between Washington and Islamabad remain on course.
The army and the government have come under criticism domestically for allowing the country's sovereignty to be violated. Some critics have expressed doubts about government claims that it was not aware of the raid until after it was over.
Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir's remarks today seemed to be aimed chiefly at addressing that criticism.
"The Pakistan security forces are neither incompetent nor negligent about their sacred duty to protect Pakistan," he told reporters. "There shall not be any doubt that any repetition of such an act will have disastrous consequences," he said.
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US Response should be: We will stop raiding you when you stop harboring terrorists and Talib. You dont like it? Say goodbye to all the US aid and arms and spare parts. They're now going to India.
"insisted relations between Washington and Islamabad remain on course"
So we've agreed to keep paying them?
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OldSpook says it: countries that don't enforce their own sovereignty -- by cleaning out those who attack others -- will find that their sovereignty isn't respected.
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When Pakistan is willing to take out thier own garbage we won't have to.
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NEWS KERALA > PAKISTAN WARNS INDIA THAT US-STYLE PREEMPTIVE STRIKES [Abbottabad] WILL "RESULT IN A TERRIBLE CATASTROPHE".
* SAME > CATASTROPHE IFF OSAMA RAID HAD GONE WRONG: BASHIR [PAK Foreign Secretary].
* SAME > [Haqqani]ENVOY: PAKISTAN MISTOOK US INCURSION [Abbottabad] FOR AN ATTACK FROM INDIA.
* SAME > PALESTINIAN RADICAL HAILS "LION" OSAMA, DENOUNCES "DOG" OBAMA. Issmat Hamouri of the Palestinian branch of the HIZB-UT-TAHRIR GROUP [HuT].
ARTIC:
> Osama's death will not stop the coming CALIPHATE from originating at AL-AQSA MOSQUE.
> POTUS BAMMER will "soon hang". by his neck next to ex-POTUS DUBYA.
THREAT OF TERR ATTACK AGZ POTUS BAMMER + WHITE HOUSE, WASHINGTON, DC???
* THE NEWS.PK > MAORI NZ MP HAILS OSAMA AS A FREEDOM FIGHTER [Islamic = Muslim self determination].
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Gee whiz -- one cross-border raid deep into putative allied territory per decade isn't exactly running amok. But how about if we stick to UAVs for most of the next decade instead, keeping raids for the Number 1s?
WASHINGTON - The International Monetary Fund has postponed talks in Pakistan next week due to security concerns, an IMF spokesman said on Wednesday, delaying a deal to disburse more than $3 billion in funds to the country.
Has anyone in Pakistain ever thought of trying to build the country up and not depend on international handouts?
No. The world owes them because they are the Land of the Pure. Following independence they wanted money to support the West instead of the Soviets, then it was money to support the West instead of the jihadis... now the IMF should "loan" them money because they refuse to live within their tax revenues.
"An IMF mission to meet Pakistani authorities in Islamabad ... has been postponed in light of security developments in Pakistan," an IMF spokesman told Reuters. "No new dates have been set at this stage."
The IMF mission was meant to discuss budget targets for the fiscal year 2011/12 and to review economic and policy developments under Pakistan's $11 billion IMF loan program, the spokesman said.
The World Bank said it had also postponed travel to Pakistan although loan disbursements for development and social projects were not affected, including funding for rebuilding of areas devastated by massive flooding last year.
IMF disbursements to Pakistan of two remaining tranches of about $3 billion under the program is critical to help the nation through a financial crunch due to a widening fiscal deficit brought about by the flooding. Pakistan agreed to an IMF loan program in November 2008 to avert a financial crisis. So far, about $8 billion of the loan has been disbursed, while an additional $451 million in funding has since been authorized to cope with damage caused by the summer floods.
Questions have been raised about whether the United States might pull back on its bilateral aid to Pakistan, which would make the IMF funding even more critical.
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the late Osama bin Laden ... who no longer exists... 's teenage daughter witnessed her father's death in the compound in Abbottabad according to an ISI official. The girl is now in Pak custody together with Bin Laden's wife. The wife, who speaks only Arabic and who was injured in the attack, said on regaining consciousness that she was Yemeni and that she had been in the compound for a few months.
Welcome to Pakistan! And where were you before, my dear?
The official said there were 17 or 18 people in the compound at the time of the attack and that as well as taking Osama bin Laden's body away the Americans took one person alive -- possibly one of his sons.
Yep. He's telling us everything his father knew about the ISI's activities. Either that or he was the late Mr. bin Laden's long-time bodyguard, and he's telling us everything his boss ever did, everywhere he went, everyone he ever spoke to. Or he's... but that would be telling, so we won't. Do have a nice day!
Four dead bodies were left in the compound. It is believed they are of another son, 2 brothers and a guard.
Those who survived the attack included the wife, the daughter and 8 to 9 other children -- not apparently Bin Laden's but possibly those of his brothers. All those being held in Pakistain will be returned to their countries of origin.
When the Pakistain authorities found the surviving women and kiddies in the compound their hands were bound with plastic tags and it is believed that had one of the American helicopters not malfunctioned then they too would have been taken away.
There were four helicopters involved in the attack: two remained in the air and two landed. The Pak authorities recovered some documents from the compound apparently missed by the Americans.
Local officials in Abbottabad said that the ownership of the compound remains unclear as the relevant documentation is in the name of someone with a false identity.
The ISI said that they had no advance warning of the American operation. Between 25 and 40 American personnel were involved in the raid on the compound.
It is believed the American helicopters, possibly fitted with stealth technology, were in the air for about 30 minutes as they moved from Jalalabad to Abbottabad. They were on the ground for 40 minutes before making the return journey.
Asked why they had not checked out a building so close a major military facility the ISI said that the compound had actually been raided when the house was under construction in 2003 when the authorities believed an Al Qaeda operative Abu Faraj Al Libbi was there. On that occasion he beat feet.
But since then the house had not been on their radar. However, The obscurantist However... a satellite image of the site of the compound taken in 2004 shows no sign of any construction work.
ISI officials have accepted that their failure to know Bin Laden was living in Abbottabad was embarrassing but argue that that should be placed against the fact that on many occasions they have identified the locations of senior Al Qaeda operatives and incarcerated them.
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Boy, the number of Official changes this event has undergone, + still is, just keeps growing.
Anyhoo, it appears that the US had its own Fighters armed-n-ready on that tarmac to back up the SEAL strike force, in case the PAF = Pakis Air Force chose to engage in shennanigans + attempt to intercept the OBL hunters.
To wit,
* BHARAT RAKSHAK > [Times of India = Economic Times] PAKISTAN MAY HAD GOTTEN VERY, VERY LUCKY ON SUNDAY.
Prolly ditto for the next-to-Osama PAK Army as per USAF SPECTRE Gunships [other]???
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Those who survived the attack included the wife, the daughter and 8 to 9 other children
One early report, for what it is worth, said OBL had 2 sons, 1 daughter by his 5th wife (29 yo) and another adult son, and his children, some toddlers(Osama's grandchildren); one adult son and 1 woman + 2 brothers/cousins and a guard killed , and wife injured, with 18 total on the family floor
I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!! SEAL TEAM 6 USED A DIRTY, UNCLEAN, UNISLAMIC DOG TO SEARCH THE COMPOUND!!!!!! I hope it wasz the next to last thing Binny saw, before the bullet to the eye!!!!!
The liquidation of the founder of Al Qaeda, the late Osama bin Laden ... doesn't live anywhere anymore... , at the hands of US special forces is yet to arouse public protests which means that the popularity his organisation enjoyed at the time of 9/11 attacks in Washington and New York has faded away.
Just go back to the October 17, 2001 when the US-led forces attacked Afghanistan to topple Taliban government in Kabul. Thousands of students and people had thronged the streets of Beautiful Downtown Peshawar to condemn the action and express solidarity with Taliban.
The youngsters, particularly from Malakand division, were so enthusiastic that they didn't rely only on protests and crossed into Afghanistan to fight alongside Taliban.
The US attacks on Afghanistan also helped religious parties to collect donations from people. The people had generously contributed.
It is another story as to where those contributions have gone but the main question remains why the killing of Osama has fallen on deaf ears and even religious parties, which secured votes in 2002 elections due to their pro-Taliban slogans and reached the corridors of power, are also silent mysteriously.
What actually has happened all these years? The killing of Osama, once regarded as leader of the Ummah, has gone unsung. There were few tiny protests in Quetta, but the rest of the country, especially Khyber-Pakhtunkhwa ... formerly NWFP, still Terrorism Central... , stayed calm.
One thing that has gone against Al Qaeda is the follies made by Taliban in the shape of suicide kabooms and kabooms in bazaars, mosques and funeral ceremonies besides blowing up schools and other government-owned buildings. The victims in most of the cases happened to be innocent people, including women and kiddies.
Attacking mosques with bombs is height of terrorism. Killing people and hanging their bodies from electricity poles by Taliban have dented their popularity and the people, who were willing to pay them money in 2001, are now least concerned about the head of Al Qaeda.
Even the bodies of the opponents of Taliban were exhumed and hanged in public, which earned them public disapproval and lowered their rating steeply.
Targeting mosques negatively impacted Taliban's image. Not only Paks, but the lackluster attitude of Afghans towards the high-profile death of the US enemy number one is also understandable.
The Afghan refugees living in Pakistain term Osama's killing as a welcome sign for peace in the war-battered Afghanistan as well as the host country.
Many Afghans, who spoke to this correspondent, held bin Laden and Taliban responsible for all the ills their country suffered from. It was bin Laden, who sowed seeds of discard among Afghans, they said.
According to them, the massive displacement caused by endless wars in Afghanistan is just because of the jihadist groups, spearheaded by Al Qaeda founder.
Hundreds of innocent people were kidnapped and killed on charges of spying for the US and Pakistain army.
People are surprised at the absence of protests by the religious leaders, whose politics revolves around anti-American sentiments. In the past, the religio-politicians took pride in having links with Taliban and Al Qaeda.
Perhaps, they don't want to invite wrath of the US or the relentless heat has confined them to air-conditioned rooms.
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Ding dong the witch is dead,
Which old witch,
The wicked witch,
Ding dong the wicked witch is dead.
Hi Ho the derry-o,
Sing it high,
Sing it low,
Ding dong the wicked witch is dead.
And good riddance.
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OTOH BHARAT RAKSHAK > PAKISTAN: LOCAL TALIBAN COMMANDER ENDS TRUCE WID ARMY AFTER BIN LADEN KILLING [attacks, shells Army camp at Wana].
and
* SAME > AFGHAN TALIBAN LIKELY TO RETHINK TIES TO AL-QAEDA.
ARTIC = Although OBL was tight wid Taliban El Supremo MULLAH OMAR, etal. he personally did not have or assert much influence over the Terrops, Campaigns conducted by the Afghan Taliban per se, as compared to the PAK Taliban.
[Dawn] Pakistain alerted the US to its suspicions about a compound where the late Osama bin Laden ... who is currently taking a long nap in the dirt... urm... water... was found hiding as far back as 2009, Pak Foreign Secretary Salman Bashir said on Wednesday.
Bashir also hit out at "disquieting" comments by CIA Director Leon Panetta that US officials had ruled out informing Islamabad in advance about Sunday's US raid on the Pak compound which led to the al Qaeda chief's death.
Asked in a BBC radio interview about the compound in Abbottabad where the al Qaeda chief was discovered, Bashir said: "This particular location was pointed out by our intelligence quite some time ago to the US intelligence.
"Of course they have a much more sophisticated equipment to evaluate and to assess."
"We had indicated this compound as far back as 2009 as a possible place," Bashir added, although he added it was not known at the time bin Laden was hiding there and there were "millions" of other suspect locations.
On Panetta's comments, the Pak official said: "I know for sure that we have extended every cooperation to the US including the CIA as well as to other countries so far as the campaign against terror is concerned.
"In terms of success in what is called global anti-terror, Pakistain has played a pivotal role so it is a little disquieting when we hear comments like this."
On the decision not to inform Pakistain about the raid, Panetta told Time magazine that "it was decided that any effort to work with the Paks could jeopardise the mission: They might alert the targets."
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WAFF > PAK ISI OFFICIAL:"IT WAS PART OF THE JOINT EFFORT + LEAD WAS GIVEN BY ISI", to the US.
* DAILY TIMES.PK > BIN LADEN [death = killing] WILL NOT END PAK-US "MARRIAGE OF CONVENIENCE".
* SAME > US VOWS TO FIND OUT IFF PAKISTAN SHELTERED BIN LADEN.
And Islamabad wants to make it absolutely positively categorically undeniably .....@etc. bet-your-Wives-n-Camel crystal clear that its roughly US$3.0 +/- Bilyuhn a year in US aid has nothing to do wid anything.
[Dawn] [Dawn] Federal Interior Minister, Rehman Malik said that Pakistain is fighting the war against terrorism and the late Osama bin Laden's ... who is no more... death is part of the war.
Malik was speaking to the media after reaching Bloody Karachi Airport from Islamabad. He said that the Foreign Office of Pakistain has presented a detailed statement about the killing of Osama Bin Laden.
Answering to a question, Malik said that he has not arrived in Bloody Karachi with any package for the MQM, however he said that whenever he visited the MQM office he never returned with empty hands.
Malik said that the police has tossed in the slammer 75 hit mans and action would be taken in case of further knowledge about the hit men.
Speaking about dialogue with India, he said that he contacted his Indian counterpart, P. Chidambaram to take practical measures for peace in the region.
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MALIK
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* NEWSMAX/PEOPLE'S DAILY FORUM/TOPIX > AGHANISTAN [Defence] MINISTRY SAYS PAKISTAN SHOULD HAD KNOWN BIN LADEN WAS THERE.
* PEOPLE'S DAILY FORUM > GOLDMAN RACHMAN: US SHOULD DECLARE VICTORY AND END THE "GLOBAL WAR ON TERROR", in wake of Osama's death.
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All things considered, AGHANISTAN = has serious doubts about PAKISTAN'S [internal] ABILITY TO SAFELY SECURE ITS NUCLEAR WEAPONS, vee both Corruption as well as from Terror capture.
[Dawn] Pakistain's Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani said Wednesday that spy agencies around the world share the blame for his country's failure to capture al Qaeda leader the late Osama bin Laden, ... who no longer exists... killed by US forces.
"Certainly, we have intelligence failure of the rest of the world including the United States," Gilani told news hounds in Gay Paree, where he was meeting with business leaders.
"There is intelligence failure of the whole world, not Pakistain alone."
Separately La Belle France's foreign minister Alain Juppe said he had dined with Gilani on Tuesday and asked him how bin Laden went uncaught living in a city near Islamabad while being hunted by the United States.
"The reply was that it was a failure of the Pak intelligence services, which they have addressed," Juppe told news channel La Belle France 24.
But he moved to ease the pressure on Pakistain, a crucial ally in efforts to track cut-thoat groups.
"In any case I think we should avoid any antagonism with Pakistain. It is a big country. We have every interest in keeping good relations with it, and it should cooperate," Juppe said.
"I hope this will be a turning point in the right direction. The Pak prime minister assured me yesterday of his will to cooperate," Juppe added.
"There will be no solution in Afghanistan, no long-lasting political solution, if we do not manage to work in trust with Pakistain."
He added that La Belle France was considering a target date of 2014 to withdraw its troops from Afghanistan, where it currently has about 4,000 serving in a NATO ...the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Originally it was a mutual defense pact directed against an expansionist Soviet Union. In later years it evolved into a mechanism for picking the American pocket while criticizing the style of the American pants... force.
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I think ole Gilani would have better luck selling the alien abduction story than this.
Are all citizens of Pakistan required to smoke hash four times a day? That has to be the only explanation for some of the "amazing" journalism coming out of that country.
Have those merry pranksters over in covert ops spiked the drinking water again?
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ION WAFF > PAKISTAN ARMY: 100 TOP-LEVEL AL-QAIDA LEADERS + OPERATORS KILLED OR ARRESTED BY ISI | PAKISTAN [Army] ISSUES VEILED THREAT TO US THAT A REPEAT OF ABBOTTABAD-LIKE VIOLATIONS WOULD WARRANT A REVIEW OF MILITARY + INTELLIGENCE COOPERATION WID US, SAYS KAYANI.
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* SAME > [DailyMail.UK] RADICAL MUSLIMS ALREADY [Re-]NAME BIN LADEN SEA BURIAL LOCATION [North Arabian Sea] AS "MARTYR'S SEA", as per leading UK Islamic-Muslim Scholar Abdal Hakim Marad.
ARTIC = Contrary to US intentions, the sea location = region in Arabian Sea where the USS CARL VINSON CVN is believed to had buried Osama is now deemed an ISLAMIC/MUSLIM HOLY "SHRINE" TO OSAMA???
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Since OBL was a self-proclaimed fan of WHITNEY HUSTON, anyone in Hollywood or the MSM-Net get her take yet???
Ole Gilani may actually have a point. It wasn't like OBL was living in a slum or under a rock or changing safe houses every day. He was in this big old house with an odd looking cantonment area around it.
It should have drawn some attention after all Pakistan is crawling with US, Brit, French, Israeli, Indian, Russian and goodness knows whoever else's spies. There aren't enough tables in the tea shops for all of these guys bristling their mustaches at each other. Geez, the ISI was so busy keeping up with the roster of who's in town they didn't have much time to check on odd old guys giving away rabbits.
I think there were a lot of good solid intel operatives smacking themselves on the forehead over this one. Heck, everytime they bug the Pakistani military school, they would have driven right past the place.
He really did do everything except put a neon sign on the roof "Binny's"
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[Dawn] A doctor who sold a piece of the land where the late Osama bin Laden ... who used to be alive but now he's not... 's final hideout was built said the buyer, a Pak who apparently sheltered the al-Qaeda chief, was a "modest, humble" man who did not seem to be a Islamic exemplar.
As Pakistain sought to counter suspicions it had been harboring bin Laden, details emerged Wednesday about the small group of men who looked after the al-Qaeda chief in this northwestern town before he was killed by U.S. commandos.
Chief among them was a man known as Arshad Khan, who neighbors said was one of two Pak men living in the house. Property records obtained by The News Agency that Dare Not be Named show Mohammad Arshad bought adjoining plots in four stages between 2004 and 2005 for $48,000. The two appear to be the same person, and the names may be fake.
The doctor, Qazi Mahfooz Ul Haq, said he sold a plot of land to Arshad in 2005. He said the buyer was a sturdily built man who had a tuft of hair under his lower lip. He spoke with an accent that sounded like it was from Wazoo, a tribal region close to Afghanistan that is home to many al-Qaeda operatives.
"He was a very simple, modest, humble type of man" who was "very interested" in buying the land, the doctor said.
Arshad may have been one of the five people killed in the raid including bin Laden and one of his sons. US officials have said bin Laden's most trusted courier, and the courier's wife and brother also died.
The courier, who eventually led the US to bin Laden, was so important to al-Qaeda that he was tapped by Sept. 11 criminal mastermind Khalid Sheikh Mohammed to shepherd the man who was to have been the 20th hijacker through computer training needed for the attack, according to newly released documents from Guantanamo Bay interrogations.
The courier allegedly trained Maad al-Qahtani at an internet cafe in the southern Pak city of Bloody Karachi in July 2001 so that he could communicate by email with Mohammed Atta, the Sept. 11 financier and one of the 19 hijackers, who was already in the United States.
But al-Qahtani proved to be a poor student and was ultimately denied entry to the US when he raised suspicion among immigration officials.
The Guantanamo documents also revealed that the courier might have been one of the men who accompanied bin Laden to Tora Bora in eastern Afghanistan in December 2001 just weeks before the Taliban's final surrender.
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As per FREEREPUBLIC, Osama's young Yemeni wife repor claims that OBL had been residing there for the "past five years", IMO essens all but affirming that OBL moved in shortly after the current House, Compound construction was first completed, which IMO again affirms OBL, etal. was the Personage intended as "sole" occupier = inhabitor???
DOESN'T HELP ISLAMABAD'S POST-RAID IMAGE = CREDIBILITY.
Also, Osama's family at Abbottabad as captured alive by the USN SEALS are repor being treated as VIP = VVIPS, NOT Terrorists or Accomplices, as per medical treatment + accomodations.
[Dawn] Indonesia says its most wanted terrorist suspect was in Pakistain to meet the late Osama bin Laden ... who used to be but now ain't... when he was placed in durance vile there early this year.
Umar Patek was placed in durance vile in January in Abbottabad, the garrison town where bin Laden was killed by US forces this week.
Patek is suspected in the 2002 Bali bombings that killed 202 people. He is deputy commander of al-Qaeda's Southeast Asian affiliate Jemaah Islamiyah.
Defense Minister Purnomo Yusgiantoro said Wednesday that Patek was in Pakistain with his Filipino wife to meet with bin Laden. Authorities have said they traveled to Pakistain using passports with false names.
Indonesian Sherlocks are trying to bring Patek back to the country.
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The UK's infamous 7/7 Suicide Bomber had also apparently visited the Abbottabad area 5X between 2001 + 2005, although its not conclusively clear iff he'd ever met wid Osama.
Its also not clear just how much independent = non-PAK Army, Other security the PAK Govt. allowed OBL to have at Abbottabad - ITS QUITE POSSIBLE THAT ISLAMABAD WAS "HEDGING" + WANTED THE OPTION TO BE ABLE TO BOTH MIL PROTECT OSAMA 100% FROM THE US, AS WELL TO SACRIFICE OSAMA 100% TO SAME, ETC. AS NEEDED???
BAGHDAD The Iraqi government said Wednesday it will disband the tribunal that condemned Saddam Hussein and other top regime officials to death and was heavily criticized by human rights groups.
"Our work here is done, citizens..."
The announcement could help alleviate tension between the Shiite-led government and Iraqs Sunni community, which has long felt unfairly targeted by the Iraqi High Criminal Tribunal and has demanded its closure in the interests of national reconciliation.
The statement only said that the Cabinet approved a draft law to disband the court and that it has been sent to parliament, without giving any further details.
The court spokesman, Raid Juhi, told The Associated Press that the decision was made because the court had finished its cases. The proposed law sets June 30 as a deadline to settle a few final minor cases, he added.
A number of international human rights organizations and Iraqi Sunni politicians have been questioning whether the proceedings of the tribunal, which tried and sentenced dozens of former officials, complied with international standards for fairness.
The first among the cases it handled was against Saddam who was hanged in late 2006 for his role in the deaths of more than 140 Shiite Muslims following an 1982 attempt on his life.
It also tried and sent to the gallows Husseins cousin Ali Hassan al-Majid who gained his nickname Chemical Ali for ordering the use of mustard gas and nerve agents against the Kurds in response to their collaboration with the Iranians during the 1980-1988 Iran-Iraq War.
Saddams half brother and former intelligence chief Barzan Ibrahim, former vice president Taha Yassin Ramadan and former head of Iraqs revolutionary court Awad Hamid al-Bandar were also all sentenced to death and executed.
The court also tried and convicted 74-year-old Tariq Aziz, the only Christian in Saddams inner circle, for his role in the crackdown on the Shiite political parties now dominating Iraqs politics. Aziz faces a death sentence for his conviction in that case but it has yet to be implemented.
Two other Saddam-era officials have also been convicted and sentenced to death. But the cases of Sultan Hashim Ahmad al-Tai, the former defense minister who led the Iraqi delegation at the cease-fire talks that ended the 1991 Gulf War, and Hussein Rashid Mohammed, a former deputy director of operations for the Iraqi armed forces, have angered Iraqs Sunni population who believe the sentences are too harsh.
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Since this is democratic Iraq, disbanding is not so bad.
However, under Saddam that could have meant mass executions and or dismemberment.
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[Al Jazeera] Representatives of Paleostinian factions have met in the Egyptian capital, Cairo, to mark a landmark reconciliation agreement signed a day earlier.
Khaled Meshaal, the leader of the Hamas, always the voice of sweet reason, movement, and the ineffectual Mahmoud Abbas ... a graduate of the prestigious unaccredited Patrice Lumumba University in Moscow with a doctorate in Holocaust Denial... , the Paleostinian president and leader of Fatah, were attending Wednesday's ceremony, meeting face-to-face for the first time since 2006.
Speaking at the ceremony, Abbas said Paleostinians had turned the "black page" of division between the two rivals.
"We announce to Paleostinians that we turn forever the black page of division," he said.
Taking the podium after Abbas, Meshaal said that his group's "only fight is with Israel" and that the four-year-old rift with Fatah was "behind us".
"So long as they agree with our non-negotiable position."
"Our aim is to establish a free and completely sovereign Paleostinian state on the West Bank and Gazoo Strip, whose capital is Jerusalem, without any settlers and without giving up a single inch of land and without giving up on the right of return [of Paleostinian refugees]."
Representatives of the United Nations, ...an idea whose time has gone... the European Union and the Arab League ...an organization of Arabic-speaking states with 22 member countries and four observers. The League tries to achieve Arab consensus on issues, which usually leaves them doing nothing but a bit of grimacing and mustache cursing... were also present at the gathering at the headquarters of the Egyptian intelligence agency.
The unity deal, which was signed on Tuesday, aims to end the feud between the ideologically divided factions in the Gazoo Strip and the occupied West Bank. It involves members of the Paleostinian Liberation Organisation (PLO) and Islamic Jihad, Popular Resistance Committee and Hamas.
It will pave the way for presidential and legislative elections within a year.
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[Straits Times] MALAYSIA is not a terrorist breeding ground because there is no room for them, said Home Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein.
'We know exactly what their targets are and at the moment, I can safely say they have no plans to make Malaysia a target,' he said after a courtesy call from Indian Foreign Minister S.M. Krishna at his office here on Tuesday.
Mr Hishammuddin, when asked whether Malaysia faced a backlash following the late Osama bin Laden's ... who now dances with worms... killing on Monday, said the police had tightened security at strategic places like embassies and public areas. He added the police's counter-terrorism unit received information from their counterparts from across the globe on a regular basis.
'As we speak now, there is no real concern. They (the terrorists) are mobile and sometimes do end up on our shores,' he said. 'But, that does not mean we are breeding terrorists.'
Meanwhile, ...back at the abandoned silver mine, the water was up to Jack's neck and still rising... PAS Youth has condemned the al-Qaeda leader's killing. Its Youth chief Nasrudin Hassan said it was a criminal offence as Osama had not been proven guilty in any court.
'America should not divert world attention from its act of terrorism in Iraq,' he said as he condemned Israel's terrorism in Paleostine. Mr Nasrudin said Osama's murder had 'opened the eyes of the world to fight the global superpower's atrocities'.
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Does nearby INDONESIA'S RADICAL ISLAMISTS know???
* TOPIX > INDONESIA RADICAL GROUP HAILS "MARTYR" OSAMA, as a "CHAMPION OF ISLAM" agz the US, + FIGHTER FOR ISLAMIC LANDS TAKEN OR DOMINATED BY THE US.
[Iran Press TV] Leader of the Islamic theocracy Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei says the Islamic awakening in the Middle East and North Africa will spread to the "heart of Europe."
"This awakening movement will certainly advance to the heart of Europe, and European nations will rise against their politicians and rulers that have subjugated them to cultural and economic policies of the US and Zionists (Israelis)," said Ayatollah Khamenei in a meeting with thousands of Iranian teachers in Tehran on Wednesday.
The Leader also reiterated that the current Islamic Awakening in the Middle East and North Africa is the continuation of the great move by the Iranian nation.
Ayatollah Khamenei went on to offer reassurance that the Islamic Awakening would definitely spread to Europe and stressed, "The current awakening reflects the depth of the great movement [initiated] by the Iranian nation."
The Leader expressed confidence that the Islamic Theocratic Republic would "conquer peaks of prosperity and progress" thanks to the strong faith and firm determination of the Iranian nation.
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[An Nahar] The March 14 Those are the good guys, insofar as Leb has good guys... General Secretariat called on Hizbullah on Wednesday to place its military and security capabilities under the state's control in order to pave the way for national reconciliation.
It said in a statement after its weekly meeting that the party should also put an end to its hostile position towards the Special Tribunal for Leb and respect justice.
Once these matters are achieved, then a national salvation government would be formed.
On the government formation process, the general secretariat said that the March 8 forces ... the opposition to the Mar. 14th movement, consisting of Hizbullah and its allies, so-called in commemoration of their Mar. 8th, 2006 demonstration of strength in Beirut ... 's "confusion" has led to the failure to form a Cabinet.
"This failure is due to the impossibility of a coup project to overcome a camp that represents the political and popular majority in the country," it stressed,
"This impossibility stands in stark contrast with the changes in the Arab world," it continued.
"Saving Leb from this crisis can only be achieved through once again adhering to the state and its illusory sovereignty," it added.
Commenting on the revolts in the Arab world, the March 14 General Secretariat voiced its support and compassion to the Arab people, calling on Lebanese sides to carefully examine regional developments "and build policies that cater to the present and future in order to fortify Leb in this new phase."
On the killing of al-Qaeda leader the late Osama bin Laden ... Maybe his Mom misses him... , the statement noted: "His death demonstrates that freedom and democracy stand as an obstacle before terrorism and extremism given that his death came at a time of Arab democratic revolutions."
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There was also growing criticism of air strikes on Libya by the NATO military alliance.
WASHINGTON - The International Monetary Fund has postponed talks in Pakistan next week due to security concerns, an IMF spokesman said on Wednesday, delaying a deal to disburse more than $3 billion in funds to the country.
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