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Africa North
Obama set to approve Egypt, PA aid despite tensions
Despite recent tensions between the US and Egypt and a new Palestinian Authority government set to include Hamas, the Obama administration budget unveiled Monday maintains nearly the same level of funding for both in 2013.
That budget being, of course, what President Obama would like to see, not necessarily what Congress will actually give him.
Egypt, which has arrested several US citizens who work for NGOs promoting democracy, is slated to receive $1.3 billion for military assistance under the plan and $250 million for economic assistance, as was also approved for 2012.

"Our goal is to provide the necessary funds. It's obviously clear to all of us that we have issues we need to work through, and we're working very aggressively to do so," said Deputy Secretary of State Tom Nides after the budget plan was released. "But this budget reflects our commitment and our desire to fully fund this initiative."

He said the administration would be consulting with Congress, several members of which have said the detentions could cause the US to withhold money from Cairo.

The Palestinians will see a slight roll back in economic aid from $395m. in 2012 to $370m. in 2013 as well as cut back in police training from $150m. to $70m.

An administration official explained the first reduction as stemming from an improved economic situation in the Palestinian territories and the second as due to the curtailment of US provision of equipment for police officers as those supplies have already been delivered.

He said when it comes to the role of Hamas, a US-designated terrorist organization, and its role in the Palestinian government, the administration would revisit the issue in 2013 when the money was actually due to be allocated.
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#1  "We Con the World"
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 02/14/2012 10:21 Comments || Top||

#2  Nobody's Interested?
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 02/14/2012 19:40 Comments || Top||

Revolutionary militias in western Libya unify
TRIPOLI: Representatives of around 100 militias from western Libya have announced a new federation they say will prevent infighting and press the country’s new leaders for greater reforms. The new body includes brigades from many of the cities that saw the fiercest fighting during the eight-month civil war that ended with the death of longtime leader Muammar Qaddafi last October.

Col. Mokhtar Fernana, the group’s leader, said Monday the body will act as an umbrella group that will allow the militias to speak with “one voice.” He also accused the ruling National Transitional Council of being infiltrated by former Qaddafi supporters.

The federation’s formation is another blow to the National Transitional Council’s largely unsuccessful efforts to decommission revolutionary fighters or bring them under government control.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/14/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [295 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Months, not years?
Posted by: Pappy || 02/14/2012 21:37 Comments || Top||

No organized opposition in Bahrain: King Hamad
Just a lot of unorganized but really spirited opposition...
MANAMA: King Hamad bin Isa Al-Khalifa of Bahrain has accused his opponents of chanting in support of Iran's supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. In an interview with Germany's Der Spiegel magazine, he said: "It's just a case of manners. But when they shout 'Down with the king and up with Khamenei' that's a problem for national unity."

"In a sense there is no 'opposition' in Bahrain, as the phrase implies one unified block with the same views," Hamad said in the extracts. "Such a phrase is not in our constitution, unlike say the UK. We only have people with different views, and that's okay."

Security forces fired tear gas and stun grenades at protesters trying to occupy a landmark square in the nation's capital on Monday ahead of the one-year anniversary of the uprising. Traffic came to a standstill on the highway. Protesters fled into nearby villages to regroup and march back to confront police.

A top US lawman hired by Bahrain to help clean up its security practices said the government was serious about reforms and but youth violence was posing obstacles. Opposition parties often hold authorized marches and rallies but youth activists call their own protests that usually end in clashes with police.

"There has been a huge increase in the use of Molotov cocktails (petrol bombs). There were five or six dozen flung in Sitra the other week. Police are responding to assaults they find themselves in," said John Timoney, who as Miami police chief in 2003-10 was credited as a "tough cop" who cut crime.
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Saudis boost defense ties with India
RIYADH: Custodian of the Two Holy Mosques King Abdullah held wide-ranging talks with Indian Defense Minister A.K. Antony here Monday.
Golly gosh. What would make the Master Race consort with the heathen Hindooz?
They did say they wanted to acquire nuclear weapons.. India has some, in case the Pakistanis balk at giving up the ones the Saudis have stored there.
The talks focused on "a range of bilateral and regional issues" of common concern with special reference to defense cooperation between the two countries.
This is going to upset the Paks no end...
Everything involving India upsets them no end.
"The talks with King Abdullah covered several bilateral topics ranging from economy to politics and defense cooperation," said Antony, adding that he was "extremely happy and privileged" to meet the king.

Analysts view this first ever visit by the Indian defense minister with a team of senior army, air force and naval officers as a very important development in view the Middle East facing new challenges.

Antony told reporters, after his meeting with the king, that he would be holding comprehensive talks on defense matters with Prince Salman on Tuesday. He pointed out that Riyadh and New Delhi are witnessing "rapidly growing relations" in the fields of politics, economy, energy and many more sectors. "The Middle East region is important for us," said Antony, while expressing his solidarity with the Kingdom and India's hope for peace and stability in the region.

Antony stressed the need for closer cooperation in defense as Saudi Arabia and India are on the verge of a significant long-range partnership. The international community will have to jointly fight the menace of terrorism, which is of "grave concern to global peace and stability."

He singled out terrorism and piracy as major problems facing the region that lies in India's extended neighborhood. Antony said that problems such as "terrorism and transnational crimes are common concerns the world over."
And Saudi Arabia is briskly stirring almost all of those bubbling pots, adding special Wahhabi spices.
"India greatly values its relations with Riyadh," Antony said, adding, "Now we will strengthen our relations further."

Referring to the specific areas of cooperation in defense, a press statement released by the Indian Ministry of Defense said: "Bilateral military cooperation should be boosted by high-level military exchanges, joint training of troops and use of training courses in India."

Indian Navy should hold joint exercises and pay visits to Saudi Arabia both in the Red Sea and the Gulf, it said. "One could expect more developments in the defense and security field, as this is a vital component of any strategic partnership," said a reliable source, on the condition of anonymity.

He said that the Delhi Declaration is a pointer in this direction. "In comparative terms, India is more geographically proximate to Saudi Arabia," said the source. It is only the Arabian Sea that separates them, he added.

"India and Saudi Arabia may not have a formal defense cooperation agreement, but the two countries have in the last decade enhanced their interaction with their forces holding joint training exercise, particularly in counterinsurgency and mountain warfare techniques," he noted.

India with its large Muslim population sees Saudi Arabia from the global perspective as the seat of Islam's two most sacred sites -- Makkah and Madinah --to which a large number of Indian Muslims go on pilgrimage annually.
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#1  Did the Indians make sure Abdullah wasn't wearing a wire?
Posted by: American Delight || 02/14/2012 6:39 Comments || Top||

Caribbean-Latin America
Henrique Capriles to challenge Chavez
Venezuela's opposition has chosen Henrique Capriles Radonski to stand against President Hugo Chavez in October's presidential election. Mr Capriles, the governor of Miranda state, triumphed in the first ever opposition primary election.

Voting was extended for an hour after what organisers said was a higher-than-expected turn-out.

President Chavez has said he is confident of winning re-election no matter who he runs against. The left-wing leader has governed Venezuela since 1999, winning repeated election victories. He had surgery for cancer last year but says he has recovered and is ready to campaign for another six-year term in office.

The primary, organised by the opposition Democratic Unity (MUD) coalition, was open to all Venezuelans of voting age, regardless of their political affiliation.

"Today, the future of Venezuela won and, as we said, we repeat to everyone: there is a path, there is a path for progress, for the future, to make Venezuela a greater country", Mr Capriles told supporters at a victory rally in the capital, Caracas.

Mr Capriles said he hoped to unite all the opposition parties through his leadership.

"I hope to be president of the yellows, the whites, the greens, the blues, the oranges, the reds. I hope to be president of those without a colour."

Some people had queued for hours at polling stations. Officials extended the voting time to try to allow all those who waited the chance to vote, reports the BBC's Sarah Grainger in Caracas.

Campaigning in this primary had been polite and well-mannered and the losers were quick to congratulate Mr Capriles. They are now expected to gloss over any political differences and throw their support behind him in his battle at the ballot box with Hugo Chavez, our correspondent says.

Election chief Teresa Albanes said Mr Capriles, 39, had won about 62% of the 2.9 million votes cast, with 95% of votes counted. He easily beat his closest challenger, Zulia state governor Pablo Perez. Mr Perez, 42, has the support of Democratic Action and Copei - two parties that dominated Venezuelan politics before Hugo Chavez became president.

Also standing in the primary were congresswoman Maria Corina Machado, 43, veteran politician Diego Arria, 73, and former Chavez ally Pablo Medina, 64.

Mr Chavez has dismissed all the candidates as representatives of US "imperialism" who would dismantle his socialist reforms. He has also said he would accept the election result if he were defeated in October.
Fat chance...
The MUD coalition narrowly won the popular vote in last year's legislative election, gaining 67 out of 165 congressional seats on offer. But opinion polls suggest Mr Chavez is still favourite to win the presidential poll.
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#1  Wonder how much of Hugo's campaign funds are donated by Dinnerjacket and his friends.
Posted by: Pappy || 02/14/2012 16:20 Comments || Top||

US, Norks to hold nuclear talks in Beijing
US and North Korean officials will meet on 23 February to discuss Pyongyang's controversial nuclear programme, the US state department says. It says the US envoy for North Korea, Glyn Davies, will hold talks with North Korean First Vice-Foreign Minister Kim Kye Gwan in China's capital, Beijing.

The talks are aimed at restarting negotiations over disarmament. They will be the first such talks since the death of North Korean leader Kim Jong-il in December.

The talks in Beijing were announced by state department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland at a news conference in Washington. "This is a continuation of the meetings that we've been having with North Korea to see if it is prepared to fulfil its commitment and its international obligations as well as to take concrete steps towards denuclearisation," she said.

Ms Nyland was referring to the 2005 agreement under which Pyongyang agreed to give up its nuclear ambitions in return for aid. Two rounds of such talks between US and North Korean officials were held last year, but the third round was cancelled because of the death of Kim Jong-il.
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#1  In unrelated news Ms Lucy van Pelt has agreed to assist Mr Charlie Brown with his football exercises.
Posted by: Jiggs Ghibelline7611 || 02/14/2012 1:55 Comments || Top||

#2  Send Oprah or Regis to talk to them.
Posted by: Super Hose || 02/14/2012 21:12 Comments || Top||

#3  Anderson Cooper as backup.
Posted by: Pappy || 02/14/2012 21:37 Comments || Top||

#4  Actually Carrot-Top or Gallagher might serve better than Oprah. She might commit to something that Obama feels beholden to honor.
Posted by: Super Hose || 02/14/2012 21:49 Comments || Top||

29 Nork Defectors Face Repatriation
Twenty-nine North Korean defectors were caught by Chinese police and are on the brink of being repatriated to North Korea. Seoul has asked Beijing to release them but there has been no reply.

According to their families in South Korea, 10 of the defectors were caught by Chinese police while trying to board a bus in Shenyang around last Wednesday evening. They were on their way to join their families in South Korea. About half were male and half female, and the group included teenagers, the relatives said. They requested emergency relief from the National Human Rights Commission though an activist group.

"They seem to be from the same family and were caught near Liaoning Province," said Kim Yong-hwa of the North Korea Refugees Human Rights Association. "They are in a very dangerous situation because guards have been under instructions to kill all would-be defectors" since new North Korean leader Kim Jong-un came to power.

Another group of nine defectors were caught by Chinese authorities the same day. Five others defectors were arrested in Changchun on Sunday and another five in Dandong on Monday. All reportedly face deportation to the North.

Liberty Forward Party lawmaker Park Sun-young said, "I understand that China and North Korea agreed at security meetings Sunday and Monday to repatriate the defectors soon."
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#1  You send them back to NORK and they'll be slaughtered, Quietly.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 02/14/2012 10:25 Comments || Top||

Home Front: Culture Wars
Oliver Stone's son converts to Islam in Iran
Oscar-winning director Oliver Stone's son Sean has converted to Islam in Iran. Stone, whose new Muslim name is Ali, is making a documentary in the Islamic Republic.
"The conversion to Islam is not abandoning Christianity or Judaism, which I was born with," he told AFP.

"It means I have accepted Mohammad and other prophets," he said in while in the central Iranian city of Isfahan, where he underwent the ceremony.

Sean Stone's famous father is Jewish, while his mother is Christian.

The 27-year-old filmmaker did not say why he converted.

According to Iran's Fars news agency, Sean Stone had become a Shiite.
The younger Stone has acted in minor roles in several of his father's films, and has directed a handful of documentaries.
Posted by: tipper || 02/14/2012 14:44 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [315 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Congratulations! Please don't come back!
Posted by: Fat Bob Unotch3711 || 02/14/2012 15:24 Comments || Top||

#2  Good for you!

Now fucking stay there.
Posted by: DarthVader || 02/14/2012 15:27 Comments || Top||

#3  I'm surprised that they allow secret MOSSAD agents to convert to Islam.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 02/14/2012 16:19 Comments || Top||

#4  hey Basij! He's a Jooooo and secretly gay too ...i heard
Posted by: Frank G || 02/14/2012 16:20 Comments || Top||

#5  He'll love the Ashura bloodletting and the Basij strike-breaking for billionair ayatoilets.
Posted by: Hupeagum Wheamp5986 || 02/14/2012 18:14 Comments || Top||

#6  "The conversion to Islam is not abandoning Christianity or Judaism, which I was born with," he told AFP.

I dunno, kid, they're kinda touchy about that. Might wanna read the manual again.
What do you figure he'll be into next year? Spinning? Full contact mountain biking? Heroin?
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/14/2012 19:20 Comments || Top||

#7  As Grandma used to say "Poop don't fall far from the a-hole". (OK, I cleaned it up a bit.....)
Posted by: Daffy the Eponymous4768 || 02/14/2012 20:24 Comments || Top||

#8  When your parents are rabidly anti-west it makes sense to see Islam as some kind of viable option.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 02/14/2012 20:51 Comments || Top||

#9  "The conversion to Islam is not abandoning Christianity or Judaism, which I was born with," he told AFP.

Great now he is apostate in three religions. Off to India to eat a cheese-burger.
Posted by: Super Hose || 02/14/2012 21:00 Comments || Top||

#10  sublime, SH
Posted by: Frank G || 02/14/2012 21:54 Comments || Top||

#11  The March of Folly continues apace; across the entire Globe...

We've had it. Aloha.
Posted by: Chesh Squank6666 || 02/14/2012 23:50 Comments || Top||

Home Front: WoT
Dupe entry: Get ready for US Military RIFs
The Defense Department may have to force soldiers, Marines or other members of the military out of the services. Cut 67,100 soldiers from Army and National Guard starting Oct. 1, as well as 15,200 from the Marine Corps. The Navy and Air Force would lose 8,600 and 1,700 respectively, according to the budget sent to Congress.
Posted by: Tamir Pardo || 02/14/2012 14:09 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [288 views] Top|| File under:

Special Operations Forces Could Get More Autonomy Under New Plan
Posted by: Mike Ramsey || 02/14/2012 05:48 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [495 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Thanks to Goldwater-Nichols they've already got seperate (but still somewhat visible) funding streams. They enjoy priority of resources on the battlefield in AFG. If you wish to take Congress TOTALLY out of the process and make the Country Team, State Department, Executive Branch and CIA the lead for a seperate private service under a "black funding line" have at it!

Posted by: Besoeker || 02/14/2012 7:31 Comments || Top||

#2  This sounds great on paper but ultimately will lead to the same screwups that we see regularly with police no knock raids
Posted by: blackjack || 02/14/2012 10:40 Comments || Top||

#3  There is a very good reason that conventional and special operations forces are different and contentious.

Like heart surgeons and brain surgeons, they can both be very good at what they do, but they are not operationally interchangeable.

While special operations are fighting the WoT, the conventional forces have to be preparing, at all levels, for not just a major war with China, but also to be able to intervene in medium sized wars between a multitude of belligerents to prevent it from going nuclear.

That being said, special operations should, for the most part, be migrated out of the Pentagon and to the CIA, becoming its operations branch.
Posted by: Anonymoose || 02/14/2012 11:14 Comments || Top||

#4  Beg to differ with you on that one Moose. If the Central "Intelligence" Agency had been doing it's job, there might not be a GWOT or need for SOF or In-Extremis force involvement, let alone dedicated SOF for an agency military operations section that was ignored or looked down upon for decades.

Aside from the current Director, if you think the agency is "pro-military" you really need to take a second look. It's all about funding, exploitation of the market share, and don't forget.... excellent soldiers.
Posted by: Besoeker || 02/14/2012 11:28 Comments || Top||

#5  Political Generals are bad enough but political CIA "managers" are NOT what our Spec Ops folks need.
Posted by: tipover || 02/14/2012 12:09 Comments || Top||

#6  Yes. What every democracy needs is a spook shop with a private army.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 02/14/2012 13:02 Comments || Top||

#7  Then BHO won't be able to say, "I approved of the operation."
Posted by: Hupeagum Wheamp5986 || 02/14/2012 18:15 Comments || Top||

#8  Ah yes, the proposed [OWG-NWO?] "GLOBAL SPECIAL FORCES ALLIANCE".
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/14/2012 19:27 Comments || Top||

#9  I posted this because I was surprised to learn that there were things that JSOC was barred from doing. Who knew?

These guys have been spectacularly successful. All I will say is be careful when you dance with the devil....
Posted by: Mike Ramsey || 02/14/2012 22:24 Comments || Top||

Force reductions coming at Pentagon
Feb. 13 -- The Defense Department may have to force soldiers, Marines or other members of the military out of the services for the first time since the aftermath of the Cold War to achieve the spending reductions in its budget proposal.

The Pentagon plans to cut 67,100 soldiers from active and reserve Army units and the Army National Guard in the five years starting Oct. 1, as well as 15,200 from the active and reserve ranks of the Marine Corps as part of an effort to save $487 billion over a decade, according to the budget sent to Congress today. The Navy and Air Force would lose fewer people -- 8,600 and 1,700 respectively -- because of their role in a strategic shift toward the Asia-Pacific region and the Middle East.

The military will first try buying out contracts or offering bonuses for people to leave, while working to keep those with valuable specialties such as cyber warfare and acquisitions, according to Travis Sharp, a fellow at the Center for a New American Security, a Washington policy group, who attended a Pentagon briefing for analysts last month.

“I was surprised that they were going to complete the reductions to the Army and the Marine Corps in just five years,” Sharp said in an interview before the budget was released. “What they told us is that they will try to use those types of positive incentives to the greatest extent possible, but that involuntary separations would probably still be necessary.”

The Pentagon has said it is aiming to a create a smaller, more agile military. Special operations forces, whose commandos killed Osama bin Laden last year, would be expanded.

Republicans in Congress already have signaled they will challenge the Pentagon reductions when lawmakers take up the proposed fiscal 2013 budget that President Barack Obama sent to Congress today. Representative Howard “Buck” McKeon, the Republican chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, cited a comment by White House Chief of Staff Jack Lew in an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that “the time for austerity is not today.”

“They’ll have a tough time explaining that to the 100,000 troops who will be forced from service under the president’s new budget plan,” McKeon of California said today in a statement.

The cuts, spurred in part by plans to wind down the war in Afghanistan in the next three years, would mark the first time the U.S. military has forced personnel out of the services since the larger troop reduction after the end of the Cold War with the Soviet Union.

The military services, which decide how to achieve the cuts, may be able to tighten re-enlistment standards and offer incentives to leave, Defense Department Comptroller Robert Hale said. “I don’t think we can stand here and say there won’t be any involuntary separation,” Hale told reporters at the Pentagon today. “We have very high retention right now with the economy still fairly weak. If that changes, it will be easier. If it doesn’t, it will be harder.”

The prospect of cutting the U.S. military to about 2.15 million people by October 2017, a reduction of 92,600 starting next year, creates political risks for Obama in an election year, and economic risks as military personnel enter the civilian workforce in coming years. The reductions would start with 31,300 uniformed positions, or 1.4 percent, eliminated in the 12 months starting Oct. 1, cutting the force size to 2,238,400 from 2,269,700 this year, according to the proposal.

After the Cold War, the military pared its active-duty ranks by 494,000 from 1991 to 1995, according to the Defense Department comptroller’s office. That included 216,000 from the Army and 21,000 from the Marine Corps. Further cuts followed in the next few years, ending just before the Sept. 11 terror attacks by al-Qaeda.

The Army’s budget director, Major General Phillip McGhee, told reporters at the Pentagon today that his service will rely first on on-time and early retirements, reducing recruitment and other steps before resorting to involuntary measures.
“We really want to put minimum stress on the force as we do the rampdown,” McGhee said.

The cuts in uniformed personnel are in keeping with proposed steps such as eliminating eight Army brigades, five Marine infantry battalions and four of the Corps’s tactical air squadrons. The Air Force would lose 303 aircraft and six fighter squadrons, while the Navy jettisons seven cruisers and 2 dock landing ships.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/14/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [615 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The Army’s budget director, Major General Phillip McGhee, told reporters at the Pentagon today that his service will rely first on on-time and early retirements, reducing recruitment and other steps before resorting to involuntary measures.

You know that the first round should be all those who fail to meet the long established and known height and weight standards. The second round should include every one of their raters who checked off the box that said servicemember meet height and weight standards.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/14/2012 0:09 Comments || Top||

#2  A Reduction in Force(RIF) will not solve the nation's budget ills. Those few who serve are NOT the problem.

Yes, AR 600-9 (US Army Regulation Height and Weight Standards) will be good starting point if their must be a RIF. It's a bit embarrasing when crusty old contractors exhibit more military bearing than some of the rear echelon personnel in uniform. (combat arms units tend to police their ranks and enforce the standards)

Unfortunately, the size of the initial cuts will mean we'll lose a significant amount of very fine soldiers at all levels.

Posted by: Besoeker || 02/14/2012 3:25 Comments || Top||

#3  "valuable specialties such as cyber warfare and acquisitions" ACQUISITIONS!!! That is the valuable specialty that deserves "special" treatment? Where will all the warriors go?
Posted by: Slindsey || 02/14/2012 8:44 Comments || Top||

#4  That is the valuable specialty that deserves "special" treatment?

Let me answer your question with a question:

Will you be STFU when there are cost overruns and weapons not meeting performance standards?
Posted by: Pappy || 02/14/2012 11:05 Comments || Top||

#5  All the money this government squanders and they choose to reduce spending on the military? Excuse me, but I thought one of the primary purposes of the federal government was to provide for the common defense. All the other crap is a bunch of crap.
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 02/14/2012 11:54 Comments || Top||

#6  It isn't to the Democrats and Obumbles Ebbang - to them its all about spreading around the wealth (mainly to their cronies) and destroying the idea of 'America'.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 02/14/2012 13:03 Comments || Top||

#7  Squandered money generates jobs. Lots of nice, clean, green regulatory jobs (the productive jobs that are destroyed in the process are the fault of the evil, greedy businesses, not government.)
And for what it costs for every military job they make go away, they can hire at least twice as many TSA people.
Posted by: Glenmore || 02/14/2012 13:30 Comments || Top||

#8  TSA is the model federal agency for the FEMA Region future of tomorrow. Never forget it!

Check'em out, next time you're in Atlanta, Hartsfield, what'ya-call-it airport.
Posted by: Besoeker || 02/14/2012 14:12 Comments || Top||

#9  one of the primary purposes of the federal government was to provide for the common defense.
That was true once upon a time. At the moment to primary purpose of federal spending is to buy votes.
Notice this issue diverts attention from the ongoing massively wasteful non-military expenditures.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 02/14/2012 16:53 Comments || Top||

#10  At the moment to primary purpose of federal spending is to buy votes.

Yes, of course. I knew that. whimper
Posted by: Ebbang Uluque6305 || 02/14/2012 17:26 Comments || Top||

#11  It's not clear from the article whether this is about reducing spending year over year to simply not increasing spending year over year by the usual and customary 7% or so. News articles always blur that distinction.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 02/14/2012 17:31 Comments || Top||

#12  Perhaps more succintly ....?



* FREEREPUBLIC > [POTUS Bammer Admin] US WEIGHING STEEP NUCLEAR ARMS CUTS, perhaps up to 80% of deployed NucWeapons.

USDOD devol into UK MoD - OOOOOO, you just know this is not gonna end well?

The Irish armed forces is too small, so that leaves France + SIGHTED-PROPELLER-SANK-SAME HAPPY FNS CV CHARLES DE GAULLE to same America = Amerika.

Espec given ...


Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/14/2012 20:02 Comments || Top||


ARTIC = denotes that the Cold War US Pool of highly educated, highly skilled, veteran Weapons-SYS Designers etal. is steadily dwindling to age + mostly normal attrition towards a point where US National Security could be placed at risk; IT TAKES CIRCA 20 YEARS FOR A NEW US NUKE SUB TO GO FROM IDEA/DESIGN PHASE TO LAUNCH QUAY.

Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/14/2012 22:34 Comments || Top||

Armed forces get only 18% of total budget: Kayani
JACOBABAD: Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani on Monday made it clear that only 18 percent of the budget was being spent on the armed forces, and of this allocation, the army got only 8 to 9 percent.
Yes, yes. But what percent of the Pakistani economy does the Army of the Pure control?
Kayani said the reports that more than 50 percent of the budget was allocated to the armed forces were baseless and without any foundation, adding that figures being given in TV talk shows were contrary to facts.
"Lies! All lies!"
He pointed out that in fact, due to inflation and depreciation of rupee against the dollar, defence budget had gone down.
But control of the national economy has gone up. How many factories, how many apartment blocks, how many farms are owned by the army, or those beholden to the army?
And you wondered why Obama visited Pakistan all those years ago. He was attending 'economics' lectures. And taking notes...
The army chief said that parliament would decide about the future logistic and defence cooperation with a International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) and NATO forces in Afghanistan. "The matter is under discussion in parliament while the prime minister has also given a policy statement on the issue," he told reporters after reviewing F-16 (Block 52) fighter aircraft, which were formally inducted in the Pakistan Air Force (PAF) fighter jets fleet at Shahbaz Airbase.

He said the induction of F-16 (Block 52) fighter jets in the PAF would strengthen air defence of the country, as this new aircraft was very modern and capable machine. Regarding the use of this aircraft in war against terror, he said it was our policy to ensure minimum use of air force in the operations being conducted inside the country.

The COAS said the armed forces did not get $1.5 billion of the coalition support fund. He emphasised that the army was not involved in any operation in Balochistan and only FC, which was under the control of the Interior Ministry was conducting routine operations. He said Pakistan Army was capable of deterring Indian aggression.
Sez the Indian armed forces: we'll be the judge of that.
Indeed. So long as Pakistan Army doesn't start another war with India, they'll be fine.
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#1  Wehell-l-l, we know it may not be because the Pak Army faces new Militant attacks ...

To wit,

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > SIRAJ HAQQANI EXPOSES PAK MILITARY - MILITANTS PEACE DEAL. MilTerrs to refrain from attacking PAK Army-Security forces, will only strike US-NATO forces in Afghanistan.

* Also from SAME > PAK ADMITS NATO [food] SUPPLIES [into Afghanistan] ALLOWED BY AIR.


Pak COAS Kayani was quoted as stating that it will be up to the Pak Govt [SSSSSHHHHHH..CCCCCC aka Pak Army-Military] to decide when to reopen the land routes.

Iff the US-NATO wanna reopen the Land Routes, they may have to pay new Pak toll fees???
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/14/2012 22:24 Comments || Top||

NA resolution decries US hearing on Balochistan
ISLAMABAD: Amidst grave concerns over deteriorating situation in Balochistan, the Lower House of parliament on Monday unanimously passed a resolution against the US Congressional Foreign Relations Sub-committee’s hearing on Balochistan by terming it a blatant interference in the country’s internal affairs.
"How dare the United States point out how we oppress our country cousins?"
The resolution moved by Opposition Leader Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan sailed through the House following the suspension of rules through another motion, which was also moved by Nisar.

At the presentation of the resolution, Awami National Party’s Pervez Khan Advocate and Pakistan People’s Party’s Humayun Azia Khan objected to the moving of the resolution in haste. However, after taking on board all the parliamentary groups, the House succeeded in passing a consensus resolution.

The resolution noted with great concern that at a time when Pakistan-US relations were already under severe stress, the holding of such a hearing by US Congress could not but jeopardise the healing process and further inflame public opinion against the US by adding to the prevailing sense of mistrust and suspicion regarding its intentions towards Pakistan.

Earlier, Nisar expressed concern over the Congressional hearing on Balochistan issue and said that “if we keep silence on it, it will be a grave injustice to the country”.

However, he declared that the resolution against the US on Balochistan should not be construed as all is well in Balochistan and said the government should not take it as an excuse to keep mum on the fast worsening situation in the province. He said the government should initiate a dialogue with Balochs.

“Mere apology and speeches would not resolve the issue of Balochistan,” Nisar said, adding that unfortunately no lesson has been learnt from the grave tragedy of East Pakistan.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/14/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [320 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Since Pakistan has indicated a semi-alliance with Iran, Balochistan figures prominently, as it is split between the two. Pakistan's contribution to the Iranian war effort might involved the Pak army entering Iranian Balochistan, so that the Iranian army there can go elsewhere, as Pakistan cleans up "the Balochi problem" that has annoyed both countries.

If Iran "wins", then Pak will give Iranian Balochistan back to them. (Of course, if Iran is devastated, the Pak will hold on to it for them, as well as its mineral wealth.)
Posted by: Anonymoose || 02/14/2012 11:20 Comments || Top||



Wel-l-l, even the Artic denotes that the next stage for China, after engaging in civic or engineering contruction [infratsructure] there, is to formally base PLA troops there.

This may NOT end well for Pakistan as while many Pakis support China as an Pak Ally + engaging in bilateral Sino-Pak cooper + development projects, THEY ARE AGZ ANY TURNOVER OF PAK = MUSLIM TERRITORY TO CHINA = NON-MUSLIMS.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/14/2012 23:36 Comments || Top||

Gilani should quit following his indictment: Imran
Another hyena picks his opening...
KARACHI: Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf Chairman Imran Khan on Monday asked the Pakistan Peoples Party-led government -- what moral justification does Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani have after being indicted with contempt charges?

Khan was speaking to the media during the induction of Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) Karachi division chief organiser Syed Hafeezuddin into his party. The PTI chairman said that Gilani should resign from the premiership following his indictment in the Supreme Court.

Khan said that democracy is governed by "morality, not force," as force "remains with the armed forces."

He said that Gilani now will not be able to take any action against anybody who is facing contempt charges.

"You set an example for the people to follow. If Gilani has been indicted with contempt charges, how can he in the future question somebody who is found in contempt of the court?" Khan questioned.
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Nawaz asks govt to write letter to Swiss authorities
The hyenas circle...
LAHORE: Pakistan Muslim League-Nawaz (PML-N) chief Nawaz Sharif on Monday demanded the government write a letter to the Swiss authorities as required by the Supreme Court (SC) so that the people's money could be brought back.

Addressing a press conference along with Sindh National Front (SNF) chief Mumtaz Bhutto, he said the question of immunity does not concern the common people, adding that common man wants his hard-earned money brought back into the country. The PML-N leader wondered as to why Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani was shirking from writing the letter. He said the government had ridiculed the country in the world by not obeying the Supreme Court orders.

Nawaz said he stood by his stance over the memogate scandal and asked the government not to make hurdles in investigation process. Speaking on the occasion, Mumtaz Bhutto said that fair and transparent elections could not be expected from the rulers.
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Coalition partners vow to stand by PM
ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Yousaf Raza Gilani, charged with contempt of court, moved his coalition partners immediately after his appearance in the apex court. The allied expressed solidarity with him in a meeting held at the Prime Minister’s House.

Gilani, facing most crucial crisis in his four years’ tenure as a prime minister, discussed the situation with all his coalitions partners after his indictment in the Supreme Court.

The beleaguered prime minister got a big boost from his allies when they showed complete solidarity with his government. The meeting was attended by Pakistan Muslim League-Quaid President Chaudhry Shujaat Hussain, Awami National Party leader Asfandyar Wali, Muttahida Qaumi Movement parliamentary leader Dr Farooq Sattar, FATA Parliamentary Group leader Munir Khan Orakzai, Interior Minister Rehman Malik, Minister for Religious Affairs Syed Khursheed Shah, Minister for Water and Power Syed Naveed Qamar, Railways Minister Haji Ghulam Ahmad Bilour and MNA Raja Pervez Ashraf.

The meeting also discussed the current political situation in which it was agreed that they will continue to work together for continuation of the political and democratic process in the country. They also resolved to continue to work to strengthen the democratic dispensation in the country.
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Pakistani PM charged with contempt
ISLAMABAD: Pakistan’s Supreme Court charged the prime minister with contempt on Monday for defying its orders to reopen a corruption case against his political ally, President Asif Ali Zardari, sharpening a political crisis that has gripped the country. If convicted, Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani could be imprisoned and will likely lose his job.
Can't we hurry this along? We already know how the play is going to end...
On Monday, Gilani drove to the court himself, accompanied by his lawyer, amid tight security. Helicopters buzzed over a rainy and overcast Islamabad, and hundreds of police blocked roads leading to the court building in the capital. Gilani said he understood the charges after they were read out and pledged to contest them.

The move was the formal start to a process that will now take weeks or months to conclude. The next session will be on Feb. 22.

The case against Zardari relates to kickbacks he and his late wife, former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, allegedly received from Swiss companies when Bhutto was in power in the 1990s. They were found guilty in absentia in a Swiss court in 2003. Zardari appealed, but Swiss prosecutors dropped the case after the Pakistani parliament passed an ordinance giving the president and others immunity from old corruption cases that many agreed were politically motivated.

The bill was decried by many in Pakistan, who saw it as an attempt to subvert the law. The Supreme Court ruled it unconstitutional in 2009, and also ordered the government to write a letter to Swiss authorities requesting they reopen the case. The government has refused, saying the president enjoys immunity from prosecution while in office.
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Gaza power plant stops due to smuggled fuel shortage
Gee, I wonder if they are friendly with any Arabs who might be able to provide them with fuel?
The Gaza Strip's only power station, which supplies the Palestinian enclave with up to two-thirds of its energy needs, was shut down on Tuesday because of a shortage of fuel smuggled in from neighboring Egypt.

The closure led to widespread blackouts for Gaza's 1.7 million inhabitants. The local power company warned that households would receive only six hours of electricity a day until the problem was resolved.

Gaza's Energy Authority, which is run by the Islamist Hamas group, said "measures taken" on the Egyptian side of the border meant not enough fuel was entering the territory.

It did not provide further details. Some local experts said Hamas had mismanaged Gaza's power needs by failing to provide a viable alternative to the precarious smuggling routes.
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#1  Some local experts said Hamas had mismanaged Gaza's power needs by failing to provide a viable alternative to the precarious smuggling routes.

Like buying fuel via that pipeline they keep blowing up, fer instance?
Posted by: SteveS || 02/14/2012 16:15 Comments || Top||

#2  Awww that's too sad!
Posted by: Water Modem || 02/14/2012 16:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Like buying fuel via that pipeline they keep blowing up, fer instance?

Be fair, SteveS. It's not Hamas blowing up the pipeline, it's some queer, inbred Muslim Brotherhood offshoot living on the Egyptian side of the Sinai Desert. Besides, how could Hamas in good conscience take fuel from Israel when they refuse to hook up to Israeli sewage lines, though offered for free?
Posted by: trailing wife || 02/14/2012 16:34 Comments || Top||

A fatal attack on Israelis abroad could spark war with Iran & Hizballah
Debka, so salt to taste. Interesting that it is being said now.
This time, no one was killed although an Talya Yehoshua- KIoren, wife of the Defense Ministry representative in India, and three others were maimed by a sticky bomb planted on her Innova SUV in New Delhi Monday, Feb. 13, at almost exactly the same time as a similar device was safely defused in the Georgian capital of Tbilisi.

In recent weeks, terrorist attacks against Israeli and Jewish targets were foiled in Thailand, Azerbaijan and Argentina. However much they deny this, Iran and Hizballah are clearly determined to keep on trying until they achieve their objective of killing targeted Israelis.

DEBKAfile's military sources say that the odds are on their eventual success, after failing in four out of five tries.

On this assumption, Israel's chief of staff Lt. Gen. Benny Gantz summoned three senior staff officers to a conference as soon as the first reports came in from New Delhi and Tbilisi at around noon Monday. It was attended by Military Intelligence Director Maj. Gen. Aviv Kochavy, Air Force commander Ido Nehushtan and Operations Division chief Maj. Gen. Yaakov Ayash. The meeting's level indicated that it was not limited to discussing the immediate import of the two bombing attacks but focused rather on the broader ramifications of a potential attack with Israeli fatalities and its impact on the prospects of war.

This assumption does not look far-fetched when it is recalled that deadly terrorist attacks in the past plunged Israel into two major wars.

On June 3, 1982, four gun-hung tough guys bumped off Israeli ambassador Shlomo Argov outside the Dorchester in London. He was in a coma until his death 21 years later. Three days after the attack, Israeli troops invaded Leb to fight the Paleostinians and Syria.

Twenty-four years later, on July 12, 2006, Hizballah raiders crossed into Israel and attacked an IDF patrol. They killed three of its members and dragged two back into Leb to be held as hostages. Before the day ended, Israel was at war, this time with

So the agenda on Gen. Gantz's urgent discussion with the IDF's intelligence, air force and operations chiefs was obviously not about plans to fly Israeli troops to New Delhi or Tbilisi, but for a calculus of the proximity of a full-scale war at some point in the ongoing wave of terror.

For some weeks now, the Middle East has been teetering at the edge of a precipice. A sudden shove could push it over the edge into full-blown armed hostilities without President Barack Obama
Why can't I just eat my waffle?...
, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu or even Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei being in control. The atmosphere is already dangerously charged over the crisis in Syria, reciprocal US and Iranian threats over the Strait of Hormuz, and US and Israeli preparations to strike Iran's nuclear sites.

But wars may be ignited without notice by a small spark or a terrorist attack far from Middle East shores that would cause enough Israeli fatalities to satisfy its instigators in Tehran and Beirut and provoke an Israeli military response. This was dangerously close to happening in New Delhi Monday.
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#1  Gavrilo Princip wanted to change the world too.
Posted by: Eric Jablow || 02/14/2012 0:42 Comments || Top||

#2  He did.
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/14/2012 19:31 Comments || Top||

#3  Munich Olympics + Achille Lauro.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/14/2012 19:32 Comments || Top||

#4  ION BHARAT RAKSHAK > ISRAEL TO "SETTLE THE SCORE" FOR BANGKOK/ENVOY ATTACKS. Israeli Public Security Minster Yitzhak Aharonovitch.

* SAME > DELHI BLAST: IM [Indian Mujahideen] LINK BEING PROBED, by India's Govt-Police.

BR BLOGGERS - anti-Israeli Tbilisi + Delhi Blasts may actually be separate incidents???


Russ CoS Nikolai Makarov.






ARTIC NUTSHELL > Once again, as said or inferred times before, ISRAEL CAN MOST CERTAINLY ATTACK OR BOMB IRAN, BUT ONLY THE US [US-NATO] CAN INVADE + OCCUPY IT, which ultimately is the best or most reliable way to ensure Iran does NOT dev NucWeapons.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/14/2012 22:00 Comments || Top||

Israel rejects Palestinian hunger striker’s appeal
JERUSALEM: An Israeli military court on Monday rejected an appeal from a Palestinian man on hunger strike for 58 days to have his jail term reduced, officials said.

Lawyer Mahmoud Hassan said a military court judge refused the appeal and that his client, Khader Adnan, will be detained until May 8. A military spokeswoman confirmed the ruling and said Adnan will be expected to carry out the full four-month sentence.

Adnan is a member of the militant Palestinian group Islamic Jihad. He is on a hunger strike to protest what he says is humiliation that he faces in Israel’s military justice system. He is in poor condition and under guard at an Israeli hospital.
There are times when I think Fred has the right idea: force feed these jokers to a minimum weight of 450 pounds and then turn them loose. A fat terrorist is a slow terrorist...
Adnan is being held in “administrative detention,” under which an Israeli military judge can imprison Palestinians for six-month periods without charge. Palestinians don’t get to see evidence against them.
Posted by: Steve White || 02/14/2012 00:00 || Comments || Link || E-Mail|| [255 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Gavage of these chaps would be something else, no? Just like ducks and geese.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 02/14/2012 2:00 Comments || Top||

#2  It saids something of Israel that a prisioner would go on a hunger strike, what would be the reaction in many countries military courts to a man on hunger strike for 58 days who wants his jail term reduced.
Posted by: BernardZ || 02/14/2012 6:23 Comments || Top||

#3  People who Hunger Strike should have one week added to their sentence for each day they strike, if that doesn't work, one Month per day.

That should stop It cold.
Posted by: Redneck Jim || 02/14/2012 19:38 Comments || Top||

Sri Lanka
US to support UN rights resolution on Sri Lanka
This is pointless and unnecessary, creating the idea that the U.S. is nothing but an international busybody.
COLOMBO, Sri Lanka -- The United States will support a UN human rights council resolution asking Sri Lanka to implement recommendations of a UN report on the island nation's civil war, an American diplomat said Monday. The resolution would let Sri Lanka explain how it intends to advance ethnic reconciliation and accountability, said Maria Otero, under secretary of state for civilian security, democracy, and human rights, on a visit to the country.

A report written for the United Nations in 2010 found allegations of human rights violations were credible on both sides as the country's long civil war was ending in 2009. The UN and Washington have pushed for a full investigation of the alleged abuses, while Sri Lanka has defended its own investigation.

The government-appointed Lessons Learnt and Reconciliation Commission cleared Sri Lanka's military of allegations it deliberately targeted civilians and deprived them of food and medicine as a tactic of war. It said some violations by individual soldiers need further investigation. It said however the Tamil Tiger rebels routinely violated international humanitarian law.

Otero commended the commission report but said "it has shortcomings on accountability."

"I urged the Sri Lankan government to share the details of their plans and begin fulfilling the recommendations called in the report and to credibly address outstanding issues of accountability," she said.

President Mahinda Rajapaksa assured American diplomats the commission report would be implemented "in a comprehensive manner," Otero said.

If Sri Lanka's own efforts have shortcomings, pressure will grow for an international investigation, said Robert O. Blake, the US assistant secretary of state for South and Central Asian affairs.
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#1  Ahh, they'll just do what everybody else does. Ignore them.
Posted by: tu3031 || 02/14/2012 19:35 Comments || Top||

#2  ION, as per BHARAT RAKSHAK POSTERS/BLOGGERS, it appears that India was ready to mil intervene in the Maldives Coup agz Prez Nasheed, but didn't because of Nasheed's alleged [puppet] ties or links to CHINA, hence India decided to play safe + waited for him to be ousted from power.


* BHARAT RAKSHAK > INDIA KEEPS MALDIVES BASE UNDER WRAP, i.e. an active but preferably quiet presence.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/14/2012 23:20 Comments || Top||

Jail term confirmed for Iranian presidential aide
President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s media adviser Ali Akbar Javanfekr has had a six-month jail term upheld on appeal on one of several charges against him, the chief prosecutor for Iran said Monday.

“He was sentenced to jail after the appeals process, and the duration of six months was confirmed for this person,” Gholam Hossein Mohseni Ejei said, according to the Fars news agency.

He did not say what charge earned the prison sentence, but added that Javanfekr had “more than one case before the judiciary.” Investigation into the cases was “ongoing,” he said.

Javanfekr’s lawyer, Qahreman Shojaee, confirmed the jail term to the official news agency IRNA.

He said the sentence had to do with “the case of the magazine,” apparently referring to an accusation that Javanfekr permitted a state magazine to run articles commenting critically on the headscarf and dress Iranian women are obliged to wear.

As well as being Ahmadinejad’s adviser, Javanfekr runs IRNA and a state press group that prints several newspapers and magazines.
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Syrian regime may have committed crimes against humanity — UN rights chief
NEW YORK: The top UN human rights official said Monday that crimes against humanity have likely been committed in the bloody crackdown on dissidents in Syria.

“The nature and scale of abuses committed by Syrian forces indicate that crimes against humanity are likely to have been committed since March 2011,” High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay told the General Assembly. “The risk of a humanitarian crisis throughout Syria is rising,” warned Pillay in the UN address.

“The failure of the Security Council to agree on firm collective action appears to have emboldened the Syrian government to launch an all-out assault in an effort to crush dissent with overwhelming force,” Pillay added.

Pillay’s speech to the 193-nation assembly came after Syrian UN Ambassador Bashar Ja’afari, backed by delegates from Iran and North Korea, tried unsuccessfully to block her from addressing UN delegations by citing procedural arguments.

“I am particularly appalled by the ongoing onslaught on Homs,” Pillay said, noting that Assad’s forces have been using tanks, mortars and artillery in the assault on the city.

“According to credible accounts, the Syrian army has shelled densely populated neighborhoods of Homs in what appears to be an indiscriminate attack on civilian areas,” Pillay said.

It is difficult to establish how many people have died in the Syrian conflict, though the figure was more than 5,400 and was rising every day, she said.

“More than 300 people have reportedly been killed in the city (of Homs) since the start of this assault 10 days ago,” Pillay said.

She reiterated her hope that the Security Council would refer the Syrian repression to the International Criminal Court in The Hague, as it did in the case of Libya last year. But council envoys say veto-holders Russia and China oppose that.

Syrian UN Ambassador Bashar Ja’afari, backed by delegates from Iran and North Korea, tried unsuccessfully to block Pillay from addressing the UN delegations by citing procedural arguments. Ja’afari accused the Qatari president of the General Assembly, Nassir Abdulaziz Al-Nasser, of political bias against Syria and rejected Pillay’s allegations against Damascus.

“After today how can we trust the high commissioner for human rights on issues related to defending and promoting human rights?” he said, accusing Pillay of adopting an “unprincipled (stance) against the Syrian government.”

Ja’afari said Syria has been trying to establish security and stability “in exercise of its exclusive right to protect its citizens.”

He charged that some UN member states were helping Al-Qaeda launch attacks in Syria against the government.

“How can the United Nations combat the terrorism of Al-Qaeda, wearing one hat, while at the same time some of its member states are financing, providing succor, indeed sending combatants from Al-Qaeda to commit terrorist acts in Syria?“

Pillay told reporters the United Nations was seeking information related to the Syrian allegation about Al-Qaeda.

Libyan UN envoy Ibrahim Dabbashi predicted that “the Syrian despots will meet the same destiny” as Libyan leader Muammar Qaddafi, who was killed last year by rebels who overthrew his government.
We can only hope...
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#1  I like his use of the word *MAY*.

Posted by: BernardZ || 02/14/2012 6:21 Comments || Top||

#2  Forgot to pay their UN dues, I guess.
Posted by: Spot || 02/14/2012 7:45 Comments || Top||

Clinton: We need Assad's consent to put troops in Syria
Good lord, is this woman stupid or what. The whole point of removing Pencilneck is to do it without his permission, or at least to threaten it credibly so as to get his attention. "Mother May I" isn't going to work.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton
Clearly not to be confused with 'Allan Foster Dulles'...
and Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu had a clear and unified message coming out of their meeting in Washington, D.C. Monday: They are looking for a political solution in Syria and won't consider putting international troops there unless the Syrian regime agrees.

Clinton and Davotoglu spent the afternoon preparing for the upcoming inaugural meeting of the "Friends of Syria" group this weekend in Tunisia. Following the meeting, they both urged the international community to support the Arab League's recommendations for Syria following their Sunday meeting in Cairo, which included a request for a U.N.-Arab peacekeeping force in Syria. But Clinton said Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, who the State Department accuses of murdering civilians, would have to agree first.

"We support the Arab League's decisions coming out of the meeting in Cairo to try to end the violence and move toward a transition. And we look forward to working closely with them in the lead-up to the meeting in Tunisia. There are a lot of challenges to be discussed as to how to put into effect all of their recommendations," Clinton said. "And certainly, the peacekeeping request is one that will take agreement and consensus. So we don't know that it is going to be possible to persuade Syria. They've already, as of today, rejected that."
And (get ready for this!) Pencilneck is likely to continue to reject it. So either you're for regime change, in which case you help the rebels and accept that the likely result is another Muslim Brotherhood, or you pack it up, head home, and accept that Pencilneck stays in power.
Clinton then explained the main mission in Syria is to persuade the Assad regime to change course and give up its hold on power voluntarily so that a process can begin to change the Syrian system of government.

"Ultimately, it's going to be important to convince the Assad regime that they are leading Syria into the outcome that we all deplore. We do not want to see a civil war in Syria," Clinton said. "No one wants to see a civil war in Syria.
You already have a civil war in Syria.
So we have to encourage the Assad regime, and those who support it, to understand that there's either a path toward peacemaking and democratic transition - which is what we are promoting - or there's a path that leads toward chaos and violence, which we deplore."
Or there's a path that puts the Muslim Brotherhood in charge, which is the most likely outcome.
The Cable followed up and asked Clinton what U.S. assistance could be provided to help protect the Syrian people just in case Assad doesn't have a change of heart and allow foreign troops into Syria or give up his power voluntarily.

Clinton declined to answer that question, but Davutoglu said there were a number of contingency plans that he and the U.S. are working on, although he hoped they would never need to be put into effect.

"Of course, as decision makers, politicians, we have to think all the options and scenarios. Some scenarios could be not opted for, but unfortunately in Syria today, there is such a situation we are alarm[ed] and we are all worried about. But today, the agenda in our consultations and also in Tunisian meeting will be a political solution, diplomatic solution, and humanitarian access as early as possible," he said. "At this moment, we are talking on diplomatic and humanitarian steps to be taken, but for other scenarios we hope that those things will not be needed. But we need to think about contingencies as well."
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#1  We need to support both sides. Or not support them at all. Both.

Who is more palatable, Pencilneck or Mooselimb Bruderbund. Neither. Thus...

I would supply some goodies to the side that seems to be losing, to equalize the opportunities.

Yep, I am machiavellian, so what? We tried nation building. It's time to flip the coin and try some nation wrecking (since they do it themselves by default, the involvement may be feather lite--li'l nudge there, or here).
Posted by: Twobyfour || 02/14/2012 1:27 Comments || Top||

#2  If I escape the Mrs. for a pint down in the village and an argument or fight ensues somewhere in the pub, I drink up and quickly find the door. We should do the same.
Posted by: Besoeker || 02/14/2012 3:32 Comments || Top||

#3  Perhaps everyone is waiting for the courageous Hero of Kinetic Actions to step forward and offer up his Civilian Protective Service like he did for Libya. Syria does have oil, after all.
Posted by: Bobby || 02/14/2012 6:15 Comments || Top||

#4  Remember Hubby Bill got permission from Haiti to send in the troops, after his representative [iirc Gen. Hugh Shelton] told the Haitian 'leadership' that our troops were already in the air and about the land anyway.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 02/14/2012 9:10 Comments || Top||

#5  I would work on arming the Kurds and other groups and preparing them to take over once the rebellion is complete and the victors are somewhat spent.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 02/14/2012 10:07 Comments || Top||

#6  Who is more palatable, Pencilneck or Mooselimb Bruderbund. Neither. Thus...

The way I look at it, Sunnis have killed 10,000 Americans. Alawites have killed zero (although for argument's sake I'll say 200+, counting the Marines in Lebanon, who were killed by Hezbollah, which received weaponry from Syria). Sunnis are descended from Muhammad's war bands. Alawites are descended from the original Hittite inhabitants.
Posted by: Zhang Fei || 02/14/2012 16:04 Comments || Top||

#7  Watch : Hizbollah & Islamic Brotherhood : With China Co-Operation Has UN : ASEAN : APEC Members Find Peaceful Solution : Avert Revolution : War : ASSAD : ARABIYA : SYRIA : Co-Exist : Economic : Social Department : Socio Political Solution : Mutual Common Grounds : al Qaeda
Posted by: Karl Heinz || 02/14/2012 16:11 Comments || Top||

#8  Better idea; stay the hell out of that mess.
Posted by: Hupeagum Wheamp5986 || 02/14/2012 18:17 Comments || Top||

#9  Well, the MX can solve the problem in about 45 minutes. No need to send troops either.
Posted by: Silentbrick - Halliburton Lost Drill Bit Division || 02/14/2012 20:44 Comments || Top||


The Arab League's desire to be linked to UNO legitimacy keeps running into various pesky or serious obstructions, like the Euros + EU-ONLY BAILOUTS???


IMO easier said than done for Beijing.
Posted by: JosephMendiola || 02/14/2012 23:27 Comments || Top||

Syrian Cleric appeals to Israel for help in treating wounded Syrians
Shhhh, relax. It was only for rhetorical emphasis.
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