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-Lurid Crime Tales-
HRC IT aide pleads Fifth, skips hearing - Platte River mugs plead Fifth, Cooper talking
[The Hill] The former State Department employee who set up Hillary Clinton's private email server did not appear before the House Oversight Committee on Tuesday morning, despite a subpoena to testify on the deletion of some of Clinton's emails.

Bryan Pagliano exercised his Fifth Amendment right not to testify before the House Select Committee on Benghazi in 2015. He was also reportedly awarded an immunity deal during the FBI’s now-closed investigation into Clinton’s server.

"It's a serious matter. Mr. Pagliano has chosen to evade a subpoena duly issued by the committee. I will consult with counsel and my colleagues to consider a full range of options available to address Mr. Pagliano’s failure to appear," Chairman Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) said.

"He should be here. When you are served a subpoena by the United States Congress, that is not optional," he said.

Rep. John Mica (R-Fla.) suggested that contempt of Congress could be an option for the Committee.

A former senior advisor to President Bill Clinton and two IT specialists associated with Hillary Clinton’s email server on Tuesday morning did appear before the panel.

Those three individuals were Justin Cooper, the Clinton advisor who set up the email address, and two employees of Platte River Networks, the Colorado company that maintained the server.

Platte River Networks’ Bill Thornton and Paul Combetta were also subpoenaed to appear before the panel. Both exercised their Fifth Amendment right and refused to answer questions.

Related: Denver Post article and background data
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/13/2016 10:44 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "He should be here. When you are served a subpoena by the United States Congress, that is not optional," he said.

Apparently, it is.
Posted by: Raj || 09/13/2016 11:10 Comments || Top||

#2  "He should be here. When you are served a subpoena by the United States Congress, that is not optional," he said.

Well then, just do what Hillary and her posse does: Show up and give BS answers to any meaningful questions and chit-chat on the rest.
Posted by: gorb || 09/13/2016 11:12 Comments || Top||

#3  "I will consult with counsel and my colleagues to consider a full range of options available to address Mr. Pagliano’s failure to appear," Chairman Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) said.

But you won't actually, you know, do anything will you?

Contempt of Congress? Doesn't everyone have contempt for Congress nowdays? Its become a laughingstock.

A better use for the state house would be as a swine farm - it isn't as if anyone would be able to tell the difference.
Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/13/2016 12:20 Comments || Top||

#4  Do I recall Congress putting some journalist in jail until s/he revealed a source?
Posted by: gorb || 09/13/2016 12:37 Comments || Top||

#5  I have contempt for congress, not of congress. They do nothing to carry out their responsibilities under the constitution.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 09/13/2016 17:42 Comments || Top||

#6  Cooper talked and seemed to be forthcoming but he didn't know much as Pagliano was the guy who set up the Pagliano server as it's come to be called. Pagliano didn't show up. He's seems to be a lynchpin (no pun intended). Has anyone checked on the health of Mr. Pagliano. Is he wearing concrete shoes somewhere?
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/13/2016 19:52 Comments || Top||


Federal Bureau of Idiots Tried To Recover 27 HRC Bonus Emails From Congress
[Daily Caller] FBI officials have asked House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform (HOGR) members to return 27 emails they gave the committee in a document dump from former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s investigative file.

The FBI asked HOGR Chairman and Utah Republican Rep. Jason Chaffetz’ committee to return the emails after including them in an Aug. 17 document dump that was supposed to be identical to an Aug. 16 document -- but wasn’t, according to Chaffetz.

"The problem is the second set had 27 emails more than the other one, which we were grateful for ... only to have the FBI try to come back and recover those," Chaffetz said in a Monday hearing with intelligence community officials over classifications and redactions from the FBI investigation into Clinton’s use of a private email server at the Department of State.

"Not because it was SAP (Special Access Programs) material -- because it was embarrassing. That’s why. It was embarrassing. But we should have had it in the first round," Chaffetz said.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/13/2016 08:57 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The problem is the second set had 27 emails more than the other one

Reminds me of a story my wife told me about a LEO who was talking at her school back in the late '60s who was acquainting students with what a joint looked like. This police officer passed a few joints around for the students to examine. He said he'd better get them all back. When they were returned, he ended up with several more than he passed around.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/13/2016 19:59 Comments || Top||


-Short Attention Span Theater-
Fans bail on the 49ers
While the 49ers have been in the news a lot recently, it hasn't been for their rosy 2016 season prospects. Indeed, as the Chronicle reports, with sports pundits predicting a difficult year for the Santa Clara-based team, tonight's opening game against the Los Angeles Rams (yes, they moved back to LA) is notable for another reason: With season ticket holders desperately trying to sell their tickets and fans bailing in droves, it literally costs more to park at tonight's game than it does to watch it from the stands.

According to the Chron, opening night tickets were for sale on Ticketmaster this morning for the price of $40. Levi's Stadium parking passes were selling for $50.

With tonight the regular season debut for the team's new coach, The Lion King-loving Chip Kelly, one would perhaps expect healthy ticket sales. However, as fans continue to be less than enthused about the troubled franchise, the numbers don't exactly bear that postulation out.

In fact, with ABC 7 reporting that Blaine Gabbert is starting at quarterback tonight, it seems the best selling thing about the Niners is back-up QB Colin Kaepernick's jersey. According to SB Nation, his jersey sales jumped to number 1 in the NFL following his national anthem protest.

And yes, at $100, those too cost more than a 49ers opening night ticket.
Posted by: badanov || 09/13/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Gabbert has them out to a 14-0 lead. I hope he plays well *only* so that it makes it easy in the offseason to CUT the whiny backup.
Posted by: Crusader || 09/13/2016 0:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Chip Kelly's overrated, $50 to park, and the team sucks balls. There's a winning formula!
Posted by: Raj || 09/13/2016 0:41 Comments || Top||

#3  You have a right in America to redress grievance and freely petition the Government.

Not your sports team, the idiot NFL, the league you work for, or All Americans and the Flag they died for.

This is the part where I insert many F words and not even good grilling language so that is all.
Posted by: newc || 09/13/2016 1:16 Comments || Top||

#4  I wonder how many of those jersey sales were for the fire?
Posted by: CrazyFool || 09/13/2016 1:33 Comments || Top||

#5  CF, it was a Soros bulk buy.

newc, ditto.

Have any of these "protesters" ever said exactly what they want? Other than those MSU loonies I've not see what the oppression is. Is it having a certifiable black for president? Having black AGs and mayors? Getting paid millions for playing games? What is so bad for them that they aren't doing to themselves?
Posted by: AlanC || 09/13/2016 7:26 Comments || Top||

#6  The bottom-line complaint of all progressives - "It ain't perfect."

They don't know what it is, but they know we ain't there yet!
Posted by: Bobby || 09/13/2016 7:58 Comments || Top||

#7  As a Niner fan from the Kezar Stadium days, I have finally bailed.
Posted by: Shick de Medici6262 || 09/13/2016 8:50 Comments || Top||

#8  Not just '9er fans. Managed to get this life-long Chiefs fan to quit. Didn't put on the game last night. Think I'll watch Range 15 on Thursday.

Pretty stoked about my new found free-time. No scheduled Sunday. Don't have to keep facts in my back pocket for the water cooler. No more flippy talking heads trying to talk sports with actual athletes. No more athletes being brow beat by beta media males.

Not that I won't have a passive interest, probably always will, but I can improve my cistern system instead. Play catch with the kids while the weather is still good. You know, real life.

I did this last year - in one week, audit the time spent on a NFL game. Pre-game, watching the game, post-game, highlights both looked for and presented, time talking about it with people. Came to about six hours. That is, about a full day of work, not including any adult beverage issues (cost, health, lack of productivity).

It was the same wow moment when I realized how much time was lost during the work day by taking smoke breaks - ten minutes to smoke, getting dressed, getting to the smoke pile, getting back, getting back into mindset, 20 minutes every break, break every 90 minutes or so. Ridiculous.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 09/13/2016 10:55 Comments || Top||

#9  Right there with ya swksvolFF. We were raised on football. Dad took us to those early Niner games at Kezar. Given the current state of the NFL- walking away is a piece of cake.
Posted by: Rex Mundi || 09/13/2016 11:42 Comments || Top||

#10  Listened to a report on the most expensive NFL ticket and least expensive ticket, to include costs (parking, food, et al). Cheapest was Cincinnati and most expensive was the 49ers. Making it easier to save several hundred a weekend.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/13/2016 13:12 Comments || Top||

#11  As an American, I support Kaepernick's right to convince us he is a total douche by engaging in cheap look-at-me theatrics instead of taking his 10 million and doing something that might actually help, like founding a charter school.

But my inner Tom Landry says if you are part of a team, you act like a team. Otherwise, go sit in the locker room.
Posted by: SteveS || 09/13/2016 16:27 Comments || Top||

#12  Glad my season tickets were in the 80's...and they were too expensive then!
Posted by: Capsu78 || 09/13/2016 16:49 Comments || Top||


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Italy: Public tugging legal
[CNN] Italy's Supreme Court rules public masturbation not a crime
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/13/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The islamaniacs will find this ruling comforting.
Posted by: Crusader || 09/13/2016 0:39 Comments || Top||

#2  Well, Italy IS Italy after all.

National Character?
Posted by: Flaing Darling of the Mongol Horde3095 || 09/13/2016 2:25 Comments || Top||

#3  However, if done in public it is not covered by copyright laws.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/13/2016 9:09 Comments || Top||

#4  Going downtown
Gonna see my gal
Gonna sing her a song
Gonna show her my ding-dong.
Posted by: Raj || 09/13/2016 12:55 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Mexico senator proposes taking back land from the US if Donald Trump becomes president
You could call it tit-for-tat with a dash of Mexican drama.

Mexico is to consider a proposal to revoke its treaties with the US, including the 1848 agreement that transferred half its territory to Washington if Donald Trump is elected and tries to make the US's southern neighbour pay for a border wall.

A Mexican senator is due on Tuesday to propose legislation that would empower the government to retaliate of Mr Trump inflicts expropriations or economic losses on his country to make it pay for a wall along the 2,000 mile border.

Reuters said that Armando Rios Piter, an opposition senator for the centre-left Party of the Democratic Revolution (PRD), hoped his initiative would protect Mexicans, and highlight the risks of targeting them economically.

"In cases where the property/assets of (our) fellow citizens or companies are affected by a foreign government, as Donald Trump has threatened, the Mexican government should proportionally expropriate assets and properties of foreigners from that countryon our territory," says his proposal.

Total remittances to Mexico from abroad ‐ most of which come from the United States ‐ were worth nearly $25bn (£18.6bn) last year, according to the central bank. Bilateral trade between the two nations is worth about half a trillion dollars a year.

Mr Trump stormed to victory in the Republican primary with strident and frequently offensive comments about migrants from Mexico and other Central American countries. He vowed to build a wall, force Mexico to pay for it, and deport up to 11 million undocumented migrants.
Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspiracy || 09/13/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Good luck with that.
Posted by: Crusader || 09/13/2016 0:01 Comments || Top||

#2  You & whose army, asshole?
Posted by: Raj || 09/13/2016 0:43 Comments || Top||

#3  The Mexican Army will take back land from the United States?

baked beans.
Posted by: Flaing Darling of the Mongol Horde3095 || 09/13/2016 2:23 Comments || Top||

#4  If Trump is POTUS?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/13/2016 2:23 Comments || Top||

#5  To paraphrase my Texican ancestors: Come and take it, B#tches!!!
Posted by: brujotejano || 09/13/2016 8:50 Comments || Top||

#6  To pay for the wall, just charge everyone entering the United States from Mexico ten dollars an entry. If you have ever witnessed the parade of Mexicans who daily enter the US -- from bordertowns stretching from San Diego to the Gulf of Mexico -- it is certain that millions would be collected each day.
Posted by: Shick de Medici6262 || 09/13/2016 8:55 Comments || Top||

#7  They can't take down the cartel today anymore than they could take down the Apache or Navajo when they occupied those lands before. However, we did take Mexico City before. Given the population you've literally dumped on us, maybe we should get the resources and the land to cover expenses and keep it this time.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 09/13/2016 9:07 Comments || Top||

#8  So many Mexicans want to be Americans perhaps it would be more humane to just move the border.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/13/2016 14:18 Comments || Top||

#9  I suggest we give them California (minus the military bases) - and all the residents of California. Make them Mexican citizens and build a wall around the state.
Posted by: Blossom Hupager6063 || 09/13/2016 19:25 Comments || Top||

#10  Good luck on that. Texans don't take too kindly to such hostile takeovers. Mexico got the land the same way we did so they might consider STFU.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/13/2016 19:26 Comments || Top||

#11  Haha!!! Ya right. But on second thought you can have California.
Posted by: 49 pan || 09/13/2016 20:34 Comments || Top||

#12  Let them invalidate the treaty! It means we own Mexico again all the way to Mexico city by right of conquest!

Please try it, Texas would love a re-match.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 09/13/2016 23:49 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Roosun MBT to enter service in 2019
My Russian is a bit rusty, but I think Armata means "Missile Bait"
[DefenceBlog] Russia’s Defense Ministry will receive the first batch of 70 Armata main battle tanks in 2019, that was reported by TASS. Earlier it was reported that the Russian Defense Ministry has signed an order for a pilot batch of more than 100 state of the art T-14 “Armata” tanks.

The first production batch should go on the 1st Guards Tank Army, which is stationed in western Russia.

“State tests will be completed next year, they will be put into service afterward,” Alexander Shevchenko, head of the ministry’s main vehicles and armor department, told RIA Novosti.

The program to supply the Russian army with T-14s was initially planned to last until 2020, but, according to Uralvagonzavod chief Oleg Sienko, it is now due to be extended until 2025.

The Russian military estimates that it will need 2,300 of the state of the art tanks.

The T-14 was revealed for the first time on April 29th of 2015 at a rehearsal for the Victory Day parade in Moscow, but its turret was masked then. The official presentation was made on May 9th during the actual V-Day parade.

Video of Russia's latest toy at the link
Posted by: badanov || 09/13/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It seems to be a fairly decent tank. Maybe inline with the M-60A3 with all the upgrades.
Posted by: DarthVader || 09/13/2016 0:25 Comments || Top||

#2  "Missile Bait"

T-14's Afganit active protection system is very worrying for a missile heavy antitank force.

Older Arena APS in action

Posted by: Clemp Clomolet1532 || 09/13/2016 3:43 Comments || Top||

#3  I like it!
Crosses trails of railroad ties on sandy berms.
Fords shallow water spills like my...Ford.
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/13/2016 9:49 Comments || Top||

#4  T-14's Afganit active protection system is very worrying for a missile heavy antitank force.

There's always the recoilless rifle very much in active use by both sides in the southeastern Ukraine civil war.
Posted by: badanov || 09/13/2016 21:01 Comments || Top||


Europe
Great Synagogue of Pilsen Returns to Jews of Czech Republic
[Jewish Press] The famed Great Synagogue of Pilsen is returning to Jewish hands and hearts after 20 years as a Czech concert hall and art museum.

After more than a decade of intense lobbying, the city fathers of the Czech Republic’s Pilsen municipality have made a decision to return the majestic synagogue in their care to its rightful owners, the city’s Jews.

Seized by the Communists in 1973, the synagogue ‐ originally completed in 1893 -- had been shut down and then woefully neglected, ultimately falling into disrepair.

The city fathers reclaimed it and began restoration in 1995, working slowly to rehabilitate the beautifully sculpted architecture until it shined again in 1998.

But then, instead of returning the synagogue to Pilsen’s Jewish community, inexplicably, authorities reopened the building as an art museum and concert hall.

The Great Synagogue of Pilsen is justifiably renowned throughout the world, in continuous use from the time it was built in 1893 until its seizure by the Communists, except for the years of the horror of the Holocaust. It is the second-largest Jewish house of worship in Europe and is known to be the third-largest synagogue that exists in the world.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/13/2016 02:05 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  A happy story. Thank you, Besoeker.
Posted by: trailing wife || 09/13/2016 8:52 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Repubs Introduce Resolution To Impeach IRS Commish Koskinen
About damned time...

House conservatives moved on Tuesday to impeach IRS Commissioner John Koskinen over allegations that he misled investigators over the agency's inappropriate targeting of Tea Party groups.

Rep. John Fleming, R-La., introduced the resolution to impeach Koskinen on Tuesday afternoon. "[Koskinen] engaged in a pattern of conduct that is incompatible with his duties as an officer of the United States," Fleming said on the floor.

The filing of the resolution is the culmination of years of investigation into how and why the IRS applied extra scrutiny of Tea Party groups that filed for tax-exempt status. His impeachment is chiefly favored by members of the House Freedom Caucus, who forced John Boehner into retirement last year, but it has spread beyond the caucus to include House Oversight and Government Reform Committee chairman Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, and others who believe Koskinen oversaw the destruction of evidence that lawmakers were seeking as they investigated the targeting scandal.
Posted by: Raj || 09/13/2016 14:57 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Snowball, hell.
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 09/13/2016 16:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Obama is the head of the snake.
Posted by: Angolutle Prince of the Veal Cutlets4353 || 09/13/2016 17:04 Comments || Top||

#3  About time they quit diddling the dog and went for it. Going after the IRS who is criminally screwing American citizens should be a winner.
Posted by: JohnQC || 09/13/2016 19:30 Comments || Top||

#4  Obama is the head of the snake but basically he's untouchable at this point, you'd just make a martyr out of him.

I'd like to get the folks who carried out the unconstitutional tasks, give them serious jail time if possible, take their pensions otherwise, to send the message to the next two-bit lackey who thinks they're protected and above the law.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/13/2016 22:29 Comments || Top||


Bill Clinton's Former CIA Director Joins Trump Campaign
[Free Beacon] James Woolsey, who headed the CIA under former President Bill Clinton, will serve as a senior adviser to Donald Trump on national security, defense, and intelligence, the Republican nominee’s campaign announced on Monday.

Woolsey, a self-described life-long Democrat, told CNN soon after the announcement that he supports Trump’s defense budget proposal, which includes a commitment to lift the restraints on defense spending, the Hill reported.

He also said that Trump is "more willing" to protect the privacy of classified information, citing Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server during her time as secretary of state.

"She demonstrated a complete lack of understanding and an inability to lead the agency she headed in such a way as to maintain its mission and security," Woolsey said in a statement.

"Based on the emails thus far released we know that Secretary Clinton also lacks the ability to lead her senior managers while complying with and maintaining the basic protocols designed to protect our government’s sensitive and classified information. Mr. Trump understands the magnitude of the threats we face and is holding his cards close to the vest," he continued.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/13/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I shall join him too. Forget aboudit.
Posted by: newc || 09/13/2016 1:00 Comments || Top||

#2  Somebody who really knows Hillary?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/13/2016 2:22 Comments || Top||


Science & Technology
RT: Mobile missile launcher, launch and possible endgame
Bunker reduced to smoking hole from 200km: Russia shows Iskander missile launch
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/13/2016 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  So, when does Hizb'allah gets them?
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/13/2016 2:25 Comments || Top||

#2  I'm sure they turned something into a smoking hole.

And a missile with stealth technology? Sounds positively Iranian!
Posted by: Bobby || 09/13/2016 13:23 Comments || Top||



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  Mosque attended by Orlando gunman Omar Mateen destroyed in suspected arson attack
Mon 2016-09-12
  Syria Cease-Fire Is Violated After Less Than an Hour
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  Hillary faints just before 9/11 ceremony, taken away
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