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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Three women charged in Lake St. Louis $7,000 undies heist and, car chase
Victoria Secret things are pretty and all, but they aren't much better made than what can be bought at WalMart, nor better fitting. Next time, dear ladies, try robbing the Nordstrom lingerie department -- after you've been properly fitted so you take the proper sizes.
[KMOV] ST. LOUIS COUNTY, Mo. -- Three women have been charged with stealing more than $7,000 worth of Victoria Secret merchandise.

Brittany R. Bobo, 24, Shomyia Hemphill, 28, and Lamonica McGee, 23, are facing felony stealing charges. Hemphill is also facing an additional charge of resisting arrest.

The crime that began at Victoria's Secret ended in a car fire on Highway 64/40.

Police say the women entered a Victoria's Secret in the Meadows shopping center in Lake St. Louis, walked to the front displays and began stacking clothing that had been spread out on display tables.

Once the women made numerous stacks, the suspect took the clothing and ran out, police say.

Lake St. Louis Police say the women drove off in a 2007 Nissan Altima. Police tried to stop their car as it fled east on Interstate 64. During the pursuit the driver struck a curb and blew out the tire.

Driving on an exposed rim, the suspects fled east on 64/40 with officers following them. Eventually, the driver pulled over near Spoede Road and the car caught fire, likely due to the heat and sparks from the rims grinding against the roadway.

All but one lane of eastbound Highway 64/40 was closed at Spoede and the westbound lanes, while open, were heavily slowed. None of the suspects were injured and all women were arrested. Bond for the suspects is set at $10,000 each.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/16/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...If you can, check out the mugshots. The undies wouldn't have helped.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 10/16/2017 4:47 Comments || Top||

#2  A Google name search indicates a probably East St. Louis, IL shoplifting foray gone bad. The easterly direction of egress appears to support Google.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/16/2017 7:54 Comments || Top||

#3  Lingerie can be one hellva a drug! (it seams)
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/16/2017 8:02 Comments || Top||

#4  Mike, might help if they wore it over their heads.
Posted by: AlanC || 10/16/2017 8:59 Comments || Top||

#5  #4 Mike, might help if they wore it over their heads.
Posted by: AlanC 2017-10-16 08:59


Alan,

It couldn't hurt.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 10/16/2017 9:37 Comments || Top||

#6  The car caught fire.
That's almost better than bulldozing the family home.
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/16/2017 10:09 Comments || Top||

#7  #6 The car caught fire.

Oh noes! Now how will they get to their jobs?
Posted by: Frank G || 10/16/2017 11:41 Comments || Top||

#8  But it was probably a stolen car, so no real impact to the suspects.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/16/2017 12:09 Comments || Top||


Harvey Weinstein investigated by British police over THREE new sex assault claims
[EXPRESS.CO.UK] Harvey Weinstein is under investigation
The fresh complaints, from one alleged victim, relate to incidents in 2010, 2011 and 2015, in Westminster and Camden.
Maybe we should just start with the eleven or twelve women on the face of the earth he hasn't molested or groped?
It takes the total number of allegations being investigated by the Met to four, after Merseyside Police passed a complaint dating back to the late 1980s to Scotland Yard earlier in the week.

The latest allegations came as more British women came forward to claim they were raped by Mr Weinstein.
Posted by: Fred || 10/16/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Clearly, he's not a Muslim
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/16/2017 6:24 Comments || Top||

#2 
Posted by: Seeking cure for ignorance || 10/16/2017 7:20 Comments || Top||

#3  The above graphic is thanks to Earl of Taint
Posted by: Seeking cure for ignorance || 10/16/2017 8:03 Comments || Top||

#4 

Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspiracy || 10/16/2017 13:07 Comments || Top||


-Short Attention Span Theater-
Kaepernick files grievance against NFL owners for collusion
[MSN] Colin Kaepernick has filed a grievance under the collective bargaining agreement for collusion against NFL team owners, reports Mike Freeman of Bleacher Report.
Never saw that one comin', didja?
Kaepernick has hired high-profile attorney Mark Geragos and is preparing to release a statement about his grievance soon, added Freeman.
Oh, quell surpris!
The free-agent quarterback has remained unemployed since his release by the the Socialist paradise of San Francisco
...where God struck dead Anton LaVey, home of the Sydney Ducks, ruled by Vigilance Committee from 1859 through 1867, reliably and volubly Democrat since 1964...
49ers in March and has garnered little interest from teams around the league.

This has caused some to suggest he's being blackballed for his national anthem protests during the 2016 season.

Kaepernick appeared in 12 games for 49ers in 2016, throwing for 2,241 yards with 16 touchdowns to four interceptions.

His 90.7 passer rating ranked 17th in the league, ahead of 10 quarterbacks who were starters going into the 2017 season.
Posted by: Fred || 10/16/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Pro QB's should have at least 3 characteristics: arm strength, good decision making, and accuracy. The ash heap of the NFL is filled with 4.6 second guys who can throw the ball 70 yard.

After 2 years in the league they figure him out and forced him to make good decisions (go through your progression) and throw the ball with accuracy. He could do neither.

And by the way, Colin, most of those disenfranchised young black men whose father abandoned you, like your father did you are not as fortunate as you. And that's why they are (by and large) cross-ways with the police.
Posted by: anymouse || 10/16/2017 0:26 Comments || Top||

#2  Vets warn that 'extreme breeding' could harm horses

Sorry, wrong thread. Oh wait !
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/16/2017 2:14 Comments || Top||

#3  Give him the Joe Kapp award - one dollar.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/16/2017 7:55 Comments || Top||

#4  Yeeeeaaahh. That's gonna get him an NFL job. Right.

Anybody that hires Geragos is a guilty fool
Posted by: Frank G || 10/16/2017 8:54 Comments || Top||

#5  #2
Wrong end of the horse.
Posted by: Fred || 10/16/2017 9:40 Comments || Top||

#6 



Source.
Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspiracy || 10/16/2017 9:57 Comments || Top||

#7  Since he isn't an NFL player, how does he get to file under the CBA with the players union? So I can file a grievance too? - the owners are conspiring to keep me and my 8.4 40 speed off the field ....
Posted by: Vortigern Marat7878 || 10/16/2017 13:52 Comments || Top||

#8  He is not worth a shit. Why not try out for CFL teams?
Posted by: Chris || 10/16/2017 13:56 Comments || Top||

#9  Another case of "can both sides lose?"
Posted by: M. Murcek || 10/16/2017 15:13 Comments || Top||

#10  Hey, I like watching CFL! It's different and entertaining. There's no need trying to trying to ruin a good thing.
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839 || 10/16/2017 15:31 Comments || Top||

#11  No one is going to hire your non-playing ass. Especially now since you have become a lightening rod for stupid, stupid.
Posted by: newc || 10/16/2017 17:25 Comments || Top||

#12  LOL if Tim Tebow joins the suit.
Posted by: charger || 10/16/2017 19:13 Comments || Top||


Packers: Rodgers could miss rest of season with collarbone
[YAHOO] Green Bay Packers star quarterback Aaron Rodgers could miss the remainder of the season with a broken collarbone.

Rodgers left the game against Minnesota in the first quarter on Sunday, and the Packers announced at halftime that his season is in jeopardy after the injury was diagnosed.

"There is a chance he could miss the remainder of the season," the Packers tweeted.

It's a crushing blow to a team that entered the season with Super Bowl aspirations, optimism based primarily on the right arm of Rodgers.

Despite several key injuries to the secondary, the Packers entered the game Sunday against their NFC North rivals at 4-1 after Rodgers engineered a game-winning touchdown drive to beat the Dallas Cowboys last week.

Vikings coach Mike Zimmer's defense has always gotten after Rodgers in these tense matchups, and it happened again in the first quarter when linebacker Anthony Barr drove him into the turf after he got rid of a roll-out pass.
Posted by: Fred || 10/16/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "There is a chance he could miss the remainder of the season,"

I already have without an injury.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/16/2017 7:53 Comments || Top||

#2  Season? What season? Deer, duck, turkey?
Posted by: Deacon Blues || 10/16/2017 12:01 Comments || Top||

#3  Nov 26, 2017 at Ottawa -- Grey Cup. That season?
Posted by: magpie || 10/16/2017 16:12 Comments || Top||


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
Whataburger worker fired for refusing to serve police officers
[FOXNEWS] A worker at a Texas fast-food restaurant was fired after she refused to serve two coppers, the company said Saturday.

In a lengthy post on the Denison Police Department's Facebook page, Chief Jay Burch alleged the officers were cursed at by the employee and that the restaurant manager’s only response was "I don’t get into politics."

"If a business does not want coppers as customers, just let us know," Burch wrote. "There’s no need to curse us and make a scene, just let us know you don’t want us there and we’ll go somewhere else."

He added, "Now going somewhere else in Denison in the middle of the night is not easy because our officers don’t have many options. What really gets my goat with such an incident is that while most of us are sleeping ‐ sleeping!, the officers are out there working hard to keep us safe and when trying to take a break to eat ‐ they face this type of reception from an employee of a local business and management calls it 'politics'?"

Burch never named the restaurant, but local media outlets identified the restaurant as Whataburger, a popular Texas-based chain.

In a statement, a Whataburger spokesperson said "an individual employee acted out of line with Whataburger's values to treat all customers with respect. We took swift action and this person is no longer employed by us."

Denison Sgt. Holly Jenkins said on Facebook that the employee was unapologetic, expressed her hatred toward police and said she would continue to refuse service to coppers.

Posted by: Fred || 10/16/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  We took swift action and this person is no longer employed by us.

What about the other half of the problem?
Posted by: gorb || 10/16/2017 0:23 Comments || Top||

#2  The so-called worker was blaming the police for her boyfriend being arrested.
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839 || 10/16/2017 0:50 Comments || Top||

#3  Whataburger, a formerly popular Texas-based chain.
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/16/2017 1:06 Comments || Top||

#4  the employee was unapologetic, expressed her hatred toward police and said she would continue to refuse service to coppers

That's not a 'hate' crime?
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/16/2017 1:08 Comments || Top||

#5  Skidmark, Whataburger will NEVER be a "formerly" popular thing in Texas. The locals will correct the situation, especially in places like Denison which is in deep red north Texas near Oklahoma.

Whataburger is an institution in Texas.
Posted by: Injun Bucket8891 || 10/16/2017 7:38 Comments || Top||

#6  ..with franchises in New Mexico (Texas' winter ski resort).
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/16/2017 7:58 Comments || Top||

#7  Damn water thieves!
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/16/2017 8:20 Comments || Top||

#8  The employee alleged “cops beat up my boyfriend and are racists,” Burch said. He added that the woman told the supervisor her boyfriend was “beat up” when Denison officers arrested him a few weeks ago.

Burch said the supervisor went to the station and found the documentation of the arrest and then reviewed the video of the arrest from the arresting officer’s dash cam.

“It was a ‘routine’ arrest,” Burch said. “There was no physical altercation and no one injured. So the employee was simply lying about her boyfriend getting ‘beat up’ by police.


I predict long term unemployment in her future, because "The Man™ is always keeping her down".
Posted by: Frank G || 10/16/2017 8:59 Comments || Top||

#9  “It was a ‘routine’ arrest,” Burch said. “There was no physical altercation and no one injured. So the employee was simply lying about her boyfriend getting ‘beat up’ by police.

"And what's with all these scratches on your back; police rough you up too?"

"Ummm....yeah. Yeah, the police did that."
Posted by: swksvolFF || 10/16/2017 15:58 Comments || Top||

#10  Double Whatabeast, hold the lettuce, heavy Jalapeño.
Posted by: Shipman || 10/16/2017 16:52 Comments || Top||

#11  Nice Whataburger you got there. Be a shame if the police are a little slow the next time you get held up.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/16/2017 20:51 Comments || Top||


Seven San Francisco 49ers take knee for national anthem as protests lose their mojo
[WASHINGTONTIMES] You know the NFL take-a-knee protests have lost their oomph when even the the Socialist paradise of San Francisco
...where God struck dead Anton LaVey, home of the Sydney Ducks, ruled by Vigilance Committee from 1859 through 1867, reliably and volubly Democrat since 1964...
49ers can only muster seven kneelers.

The San Francisco team has led the league in protesters ‐ by a lot ‐ in the last two weeks, with 30 players refusing to stand for the national anthem on Oct. 1 and then 23 on Oct. 8, which prompted Vice President Mike Pence to walk out of the game.

At Sunday’s game against the Washington Redskins, however, just seven players, all 49ers, took a knee on the sideline, while the rest stood.

Last week in Indianapolis, 20 players on the Niners knelt during the anthem, prompting a walk-out from Vice President Mike Pence.

Fox Sports, which carried the game at FedEx Field on Sunday, did not broadcast the national anthem ceremony.

The protests peaked in Week 3 after President Trump suggested at a Sept. 22 rally that team owners should fire any "son of a bitch" who refuses to stand.
Posted by: Fred || 10/16/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Maybe next week the NFL players can start "taking a leak" instead of a knee.
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/16/2017 0:55 Comments || Top||

#2  Appreciate Rantburg keeping me up to date on TV shows I no longer watch.
Posted by: Tom || 10/16/2017 11:13 Comments || Top||


Africa Horn
Kenya: Six Die in School Attack Bloodbath By Expelled Student
No academic scholarship for him.
[All Africa] An angry student on Saturday rubbed out six of his colleagues and a security guard in Turkana in a deadly Dire Revenge mission that lasted three hours after he was expelled from school due to indiscipline.

Abraham Lochor, said to be from South Sudan, sprayed bullets on fellow students at Lokichoggio Mixed Secondary School at 4am as they were sleeping, killing five of them on the spot and injuring another 18. Another student died later while being treated at a hospital in Lodwar.

The attacker, who led another four gunnies, had first rubbed out the school's guard, a Kenya police reservist who tried to repulse him and his accomplices, before they entered the classrooms where the boys were sleeping.

In a deadly turn, angry residents pulled Lochor out of a cop shoppe at Kakuma refugee camp and lynched him last evening.

The attack is said to have happened between 1am and 4am, but students who spoke to the Sunday Nation said the police arrived at the school at around 5am.

The boys slept in classrooms as there is no dormitory in the school for them. The attackers were said to have moved from one classroom to another picking those who were not in good terms with Lochor and shooting them on the spot.

In a cubicle where the girls slept, two were raped and shot. One of the girls succumbed to gunshot injuries in hospital.

The classrooms were on Saturday splattered with blood, evidence of the painful struggle the students who were shot underwent in the hands of the murderous gang.

Posted by: Fred || 10/16/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "I'll have mine, Chicago style!"
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/16/2017 1:04 Comments || Top||

#2  ...I'm sorry, but this is unpossible. I am reliably advised by many in the political, entertainment, and media worlds that this sort of thing ONLY happens in the US.

sarc/OFF

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 10/16/2017 7:56 Comments || Top||


Africa Subsaharan
'Land means life': Tanzania's Maasai fear their existence is under threat
BLUF:
[Guardian] In Tanzania, all land belongs to the state, so evictions are not illegal if force is used, said Looloitai. However, she urged the government to find a peaceful solution: "The president has been given the power to oversee and control the use of the land, but without infringing human rights."

Looloitai, who is from Monduli district, a neighbouring district to Ngorongoro, where Loliondo lies, said: "Land to me is life. It is a fundamental resource that keeps pastoralists living their traditional way of life."

When claims emerged in 2012 that the Tanzanian government wanted to force Maasai pastoralists off their land to make way for game hunting.....

Once again, simply follow the money.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/16/2017 08:01 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  In Tanzania, all land belongs to the state

The unspoken goal of all governments, not just that of Tanzania.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/16/2017 8:11 Comments || Top||


Zimbabwe: Mugabe Readies for Grace Takeover, Oks Extra-Ordinary Congress
[All Africa] President Bob Muggsy Mugabe
Nonagenarian President-for-Life of Zim-bob-we who turned the former Breadbasket of Africa into the African Basket Case...
has agreed to turn the Zanu PF annual conference set for December into an extra-ordinary congress setting the stage for what could be the final nail into Vice President Emmerson Mnangagwa's coffin and the elevation of his wife Grace into the ruling party presidium.

Zanu PF national commissar Saviour Kasukuwere reportedly introduced the issue of an extra ordinary congress while presenting his report to the party's politburo on Wednesday but it turned out the G40 kingpin had only consulted three provinces.

"Mugabe said it would be un-procedural and ordered the commissariat to make sure all provinces are consulted. There will be provincial coordinating committee meetings to consider the issue beginning this weekend.

"The extra-ordinary congress is set to consider changes to the constitution to bring back the provision for a woman deputy president or introduce a third vice president," an insider privy to the issue said.

"The issue of the president is fait accompli but the internal succession wrangling and he (Mugabe)'s age have forced the leadership to consider several options. Remember Grace wants power and has been demanding that she be made vice president in Mnangagwa's steady".

Posted by: Fred || 10/16/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Colonial expulsion, the downside.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/16/2017 2:19 Comments || Top||

#2  Dictators can't retire.
Posted by: gorb || 10/16/2017 2:41 Comments || Top||

#3  ...What's the over/under on Bob surviving more than about thirty days after he names Gracie as his successor?

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 10/16/2017 4:46 Comments || Top||

#4  Depends. Did he always help with the chores?
Posted by: gorb || 10/16/2017 11:50 Comments || Top||


Liberia to Head for Runoff Elections With Most Results Declared
[All Africa] George Weah's Coalition for Democratic Change leads with 39 percent of the votes declared. He is followed by the ruling Unity Party's candidate, Vice President Joseph Boakai, who has 29 percent.
Posted by: Fred || 10/16/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [8 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Liberia, an early attempt at U.S. nation building using second and third generation colonists with quite mixed results.

Perhaps skin color is not the issue.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/16/2017 6:34 Comments || Top||


Caribbean-Latin America
Venezuela's ruling party wins majority of regional elections
Venezuela's National Electoral Council says candidates for the ruling socialist party have won a majority of the 23 governors' offices up for grabs in Sunday's regional elections. Opposition leaders are disputing the vote count.

Pro-government electoral council president Tibisay Lucena says opposition candidates won just five of 22 races where the results are considered unreal irreversible.

Projections by independent pollsters had predicted the opposition would win a majority of the governorships for the first time in nearly 20 years of socialist rule
Posted by: Frank G || 10/16/2017 09:20 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under: Commies

#1  I'm shocked! Shocked to hear the socialists didn't steal win all the governor' offices!
Posted by: AlmostAnonymous5839 || 10/16/2017 15:34 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Sooronbai Jeenbekov set to win Kyrgyz presidential poll
[Al Jazeera] Sooronbai Jeenbekov, the chosen candidate of Kyrgyzstan's outgoing President Almazbek Atambayev, looked set for a surprise first-round victory in the country's elections, according to preliminary results.

The central election commission said Jeenbekov had secured 54.22 percent of Sunday's presidential vote based on a count from 97 percent of the polling stations.

His main opponent, oil tycoon Omurbek Babanov, trailed well behind with 33.47 percent, according to the same early data.

Polls had predicted a close runoff between Jeenbekov, a protege of Atambayev promising continuity, and Babanov, a youthful oligarch pledging to kick start a chronically impoverished economy.

Both men served as prime ministers under Atambayev, who steps down after six years in power.The Kyrgyzstan constitution allows the president to serve only one six-year term.

Posted by: Fred || 10/16/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:


China-Japan-Koreas
How One Man Helped Burn Down North Korea
[Politico] It was long past time for Donald Nichols to go home. He had been spying in Korea for five years, rarely taking a day off, never returning stateside to see his family. His bosses in the U.S. Air Force had not seen an agent work so hard for so long. They called him a "one man war" and the "best intelligence operator" in the Far East. He "performed the impossible," his commanding general said. Still, air force rules were clear: He must rotate back to the United States.

Nichols made his career by ignoring rules. A black-ops officer, he rarely wore a uniform and worked outside the chain of military command. As a captain, he did not take orders from colonels or majors. He reported directly to a general who gave him a long leash‐lots of cash and his own secret base, his own army of spies and his own rules. Nick, as he was known to his men, didn’t look or behave like spies from books or movies. A seventh-grade dropout from South Florida, he was grossly overweight, drank Coca-Cola by the case and ate Hershey’s chocolate bars by the box. He told his men that he hated women. In his quarters at night, he organized clandestine sexual encounters with young South Korean airmen.

When he arrived in Korea in 1946, at the dawn of the Cold War, the peninsula was in chaos. The United States had arbitrarily cut Korea in half. The Soviet army had installed its puppet regime in the North. The U.S. Army had done the same in the South. There were border clashes, and a savage civil war broke out in the South. Americans back home paid no attention, but the fighting killed tens of thousands of Koreans. For Nichols, who was wildly ambitious and just 23 years old, it was a land of opportunity. He jumped into the thick of it, operating without supervision in a netherworld world of torture, mass killings and severed heads.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/16/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: Commies

#1  FTA:
In the end, American bombs did not stop the war; Stalin did, by dying. After the dictator’s death on March 5, 1953, no one who mattered in the Soviet Union wanted to prolong the expensive bloodshed in Korea.

While we're on this pleasant subject, check out the trailer for the up-coming comedy, "The Death of Stalin"
Posted by: Anguper Hupomosing9418 || 10/16/2017 1:10 Comments || Top||

#2  ...Let me see if I understand the article: Stalin and the Kims decided to place all of Korea under a Communist dictatorship, and one lone nutcase in a USAF uniform (and I suspect this guy was NEVER Air Force, but rather CIA with USAF cover, and even that's doubtful) managed to set things up so that we kicked the Nork's a$$es so badly they haven't tried again since.

Sure thing.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 10/16/2017 4:45 Comments || Top||


Europe
'By both sides!' Marr SLAPS DOWN Clinton after suggesting Brexit campaign was a 'BIG LIE'
HILLARY CLINTON’S attempt to suggest the Brexit campaign succeeded on the basis of "fabricated" facts was swiftly slapped down by BBC host Andrew Marr.

The losing Democrat presidential candidate, who is in the UK as part of her global book tour, said Brexit was a precursor to her defeat to Donald Trump in last year’s US presidential election.

Speaking to the BBC’s Andrew Marr, in a wide-ranging interview, Mrs Clinton also warned Brexit will a "very big disadvantage" to the UK if it fails to strike a deal with the European Union.

Clearly bemoaning Brexit influence in Mr Trump’s successes in the race to the White House, Mrs Clinton complained about the "amount of fabricated, false information" used by the Leave campaign to secure Britain’s EU divorce.

She said: "I wanted to make another point about Brexit. Looking at the Brexit vote now, it was a precursor, to some extent, to what happened to us in the United States.

"But the amount of fabricated, false information that your voters were given by the Leave campaign..."

BBC host Marr, however, was keen to set the American straight by suggesting Brexit campaigners were not the only guilty party in this suggestion.

Marr said: "From both sides, I must say here!"

Attempting to atone for her comments, Mrs Clinton said: "Well, I’m not as familiar with... But, I’m very familiar with what the Leave side said because they transported a lot of that on behalf of Trump."

She added: "You know, the big lie is a very potent tool, and we’ve somewhat kept it at bay in western democracies, partly because of the freedom of the press.

"Obviously, there have always been newspapers who leaned right or leaned left and they kind of counterbalanced each other.

"But, given the absolutely explosive spread of online news and sites that have sprung up that are very effective at propagating false stories, we’ve got some thinking to do... There has to be some basic level of fact and evidence in our politics."

Mrs Clinton also claimed Britain should not rely on a post-Brexit trade deal with the US, because Donald Trump does not "believe in trade".

Speaking of the no deal Brexit scenario, she said: "I mean, no deal meaning no preferential trade deals, which means products in Britain would not have the kind of easy access to the European market that you’ve had under EU membership.

"It could very well mean there would be more pressure on businesses in Britain, if not to leave completely, at least to also have sites and employment elsewhere in Europe."
Amazing. It's as though she has no fear of the Logan Act. Vids at link.
Posted by: Anomalous Sources || 10/16/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  I'm still waiting for her to resurrect the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy theory.
Posted by: gorb || 10/16/2017 0:20 Comments || Top||

#2  Britain's has a trade deficit with the EUSSR meaning we import much more from European vassal states than we export there.

Was Illary drunk again?
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/16/2017 5:07 Comments || Top||

#3  Britain's has a trade deficit with the EUSSR meaning we import much more from European vassal states than we export there.

But surely you must understand, global dependency is the ultimate goal.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/16/2017 7:08 Comments || Top||

#4  @#1:
Posted by: Vast Right Wing Conspiracy || 10/16/2017 8:43 Comments || Top||

#5  :-)
Posted by: gorb || 10/16/2017 11:47 Comments || Top||

#6  Examples of the big lies she told?
Posted by: rjschwarz || 10/16/2017 17:53 Comments || Top||


Puigdemont pressured as 'independence' deadline looms
[Al Jazeera] Catalan President Carles Puigdemont finds himself in a difficult position after the far-left Popular Unity Candidacy (CUP) party delivered a letter demanding he declare independence by Monday.

"Only by proclaiming the republic will we be able to position ourselves as an actor willing to protect the civil and political rights of the population still seriously threatened," says the letter, which was released on Friday.

Puigdemont declared on October 10 an independent Catalan republic following the disputed referendum on October 1. Then, to the dismay of CUP and other nationalists, suspended the effects of the declaration after eight seconds.

According to Puigdemont, it was an attempt to foster dialogue with the national government in order to make a peaceful declaration of independence.

Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy responded with an ultimatum. Puigdemont must clarify whether or not he declared independence by Monday. If he affirms the declaration, or declines to respond, Rajoy promises to invoke Article 155 of the Spanish constitution which will strip Catalonia of its autonomy.

Puigdemont responded on October 11 by tweeting: "Ask for dialogue and they answer you by putting the 155 on the table. Understood."

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Iraq
Is A War Brewing Between Iraqi Kurdistan And Iran?
[Red State] While we often refer to "the Kurds" there is really no such thing. The Kurds, in the best tradition of that area of the world, are divided into competing, and sometimes hostile, factions. This is a brief overview:

Two weeks ago, the KRG/KDP conducted a referendum on independence from Iraq. Even though everyone and their brother opposed the referendum, according to the KDP head, Masoud Barzani, independence won.

As an aside, the KDP is sort of hostile to the Kurds who make up the US-allied Syrian Democratic Forces who are fighting ISIS in Syria.

The Iraqi Kurds were not supposed to seek independence as Baghdad and Tehran thought there was a deal for regional autonomy. In retaliation, Baghdad cut off air travel to Kurdistan. But the Kurds have not moved decisively towards independence and many observers think the referendum was a bargaining chip to wring concessions out of a hard-pressed Iraqi government.

Now a string of tweets to paint the rest of the picture:
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#1  Gotta hope so.
Apparently the Kurds are the only ones in the region with any backbone.
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/16/2017 10:01 Comments || Top||

#2  Kurds should invite other Kurds from surrounding nations to enter Kurdistan. They could use the extra manpower and it might get Iran and Turkey to loosen up if they felt they weren't going to lose chunks of their own nations to Kurdistan.

The Kurds can play the old once mine always mine Islamic game later when they are solid and their neighbors are not.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 10/16/2017 11:53 Comments || Top||


Israel-Palestine-Jordan
US launches $10 million water project in West Bank
[IsraelTimes] The US government launches a $10 million project to improve access to wastewater treatment and water for Paleostinian farmers in the Jericho area of the West Bank.

A top aide to US President Donald Trump
...New York real estate developer, described by Dems as illiterate, racist, misogynistic, and what ever other unpleasant descriptions they can think of, elected by the rest of us as 45th President of the United States...
, Jason Greenblatt, was among officials launching the project in the historic city near the Dead Sea. Greenblatt has been among Trump’s aides seeking to restart Israeli-Paleostinian negotiations. US officials have spoken of improving the Paleostinian economy and infrastructure as part of their efforts.

At Sunday’s event, Greenblatt did not comment on White House peace efforts, which have been met with heavy skepticism from many analysts. He also did not speak about a unity deal signed last week between Paleostinian rival factions Fatah and Hamas, a contraction of the Arabic words for "frothing at the mouth",, aimed at ending their decade-long division.

The project announced Sunday aims to increase the number of homes connected to the Jericho area’s wastewater treatment plant previously built with Japanese assistance by about 10,000 residents. That would leave some 70 percent of Jericho residents connected, according to the US consulate in Jerusalem.

Recycled wastewater would then be available to Paleostinian date farmers in the area, it says.

"The US administration and President Trump personally remain committed to a just and lasting peace between Paleostinians and Israelis, and a central element of that peace is a thriving economy and real opportunities for Paleostinians throughout the West Bank and Gazoo," US Consul General Donald Blome says.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/16/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: Palestinian Authority

#1  The project announced Sunday aims to increase the number of homes connected to the Jericho area’s wastewater treatment plant

Sounds silly until one realizes the project will involve trenching from each house to the street, then down the street to larger trenches. I can't think of a public works project better suited to discovering connecting tunnels.
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/16/2017 10:05 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Culture Wars
Man charged with spray-painting swastika at UMD is African American
h/t Instapundit
Court records show the man accused of spray-painting a swastika inside a residence hall at the University of Maryland in September is African American.

Students were surprised to learn someone who is a member of a race which has been historically oppressed is accused of the hate-related incident.

"I guess it proves that you don't have to be a certain race to hate people, but I mean, it's just you would think that someone, especially from a race that has been subjected to hate before, you would think why would you want to reciprocate that to somebody else," said student Abby Gorun.

University of Maryland police say 52-year-old Ronald Alford Sr. was served a criminal summons on Thursday and faces several charges including destruction of property and disturbing the operations of a school. Alford will not be allowed back on campus.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/16/2017 06:27 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...Well, if the real Nazis won't step up and do this sort of thing, somebody has to.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 10/16/2017 7:57 Comments || Top||

#2  Students were surprised to learn someone who is a member of a race which has been historically oppressed is accused of the hate-related incident.


Students, once again, display their naivety. And their lack of attention to what's been going on in the world.
Posted by: AlanC || 10/16/2017 8:47 Comments || Top||

#3  Facebook:
Owner at "Carpet Cleaner"
"Floor Technician" at "Washington Hospital Center"
Lives in DC
Posted by: Frank G || 10/16/2017 8:50 Comments || Top||

#4  Then there's this UMD.
Posted by: DepotGuy || 10/16/2017 12:29 Comments || Top||

#5  'Floor Technician' - a step up from 'Petroleum Transfer Engineer'?
Posted by: Raj || 10/16/2017 13:03 Comments || Top||



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