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-Lurid Crime Tales-
CNN's Undisclosed Ties To Fusion GPS
[Daily Caller] CNN’s reporting on the Trump-Russia dossier has left out at least one crucial fact: the close ties between the network and the opposition research firm at the center of the dossier controversy.

CNN’s reporting on the dossier, led by justice correspondent Evan Perez, has been favorable to the firm, Fusion GPS, and hyped the dossier’s credibility. Left out of Perez’s reporting, which has relied largely on unnamed sources, is his personal closeness to Fusion GPS’ operatives. Fusion has repeatedly been described in Senate testimonies as a smear-for-hire operation that manufactures misleading or false media narratives for its clients.

Glenn Simpson, the Fusion co-founder most often associated with the dossier, is used to working on stories with Perez. As reporters at The Wall Street Journal, Perez and Simpson regularly co-authored stories on national security.

Another Fusion founder, Tom Catan, worked as a reporter for the Journal at the same time as Perez and Simpson. The third Fusion co-founder, Peter Fritsch, worked above Perez and Simpson as the senior national security editor.

Simpson and Fritsch left the WSJ in 2011 to launch Fusion. Perez jumped from the paper to CNN in 2013. Another longtime Journal reporter, Neil King, left the paper to join Fusion in December 2016.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/29/2017 00:27 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  My shocked face. :
Posted by: anymouse || 10/29/2017 0:52 Comments || Top||

#2  Apparently fake news is a profit center while pushing propaganda for the team you support. Maybe a few months ago the CNN Trump Russian WAR-ROOM team should of just walked down the hall to find their answers.
Posted by: Airandee || 10/29/2017 6:56 Comments || Top||

#3  No, you are not imagining things. The 'Deep State' uses media outlets quite aggressively.

The Comey leak to one of his NYT operatives (which is apparently no longer discussed) is but one example.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/29/2017 7:03 Comments || Top||

#4  CNN: But it's different when we do it because we're going to publish you're home address and phone number!
Posted by: ed in texas || 10/29/2017 14:37 Comments || Top||

#5  Dirty cop Mueller also leaked to CNN
Posted by: Whavish Thusoling5684 || 10/29/2017 14:51 Comments || Top||


House Intelligence Committee strikes deal with Fusion GPS for firm's bank records
[Wash Examiner] The House Intelligence Committee reached a settlement with Fusion GPS on Saturday, giving the panel access to the private intelligence firm's bank records as part of its investigation into the so-called Steele dossier on President Trump.

"The parties have reached an agreement related to the House Intelligence committee's subpoena for Fusion GPS's bank records that will secure the committee's access to the records necessary for its investigation," the committee said in a statement.

Fusion GPS was first retained by the Washington Free Beacon, a conservative website, during the 2016 GOP primary to perform opposition research on Trump.

Marc Elias, a lawyer for Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign also hired the firm to look into her general election opponent, a move that eventually produced the dossier after Fusion hired Christopher Steele, a former British spy.

The House panel is working to determine who paid for the research behind the dossier, which contained several salacious allegations against Trump. It was not immediately clear when Fusion GPS's bank records would be turned over to the committee.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/29/2017 00:23 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  sphincters puckered at DNC
Posted by: Frank G || 10/29/2017 9:32 Comments || Top||

#2  by the way - "Fusion GPS was first retained by the Washington Free Beacon, a conservative website, during the 2016 GOP primary to perform opposition research on Trump." is misleading.

It was on him and other POTUS candidates
Posted by: Frank G || 10/29/2017 9:34 Comments || Top||

#3  Is this all of the financial records, or just some of the "banking" records?

Whenever a "deal" is struck instead of a subpoena, I suspect immediately that something stink!
Posted by: Seeking cure for ignorance || 10/29/2017 12:17 Comments || Top||

#4  Deal in Washington parlance always means something is hidden or protected. When was the last time conservatives got a good deal from democrats?
Posted by: NoMoreBS || 10/29/2017 12:52 Comments || Top||

#5  Not mentioned is the fact that the records will not be released to the public, because, of course, we have no right to know what the hell they were up to.
Posted by: Mercutio || 10/29/2017 14:09 Comments || Top||

#6  Not mentioned is the fact that the records will not be released to the public, because, of course, we have no right to know what the hell they were up to.

Well if full financial disclosure is not made, the inquiring mind could possibly default to funding from some sort of gov't entity or 'deep state' cabal. But there I go again, thinking the very worst of our beltway betters.

Key take away: "House Intelligence Committee strikes deal with Fusion GPS for firm's bank records"

What would prevent a Justice Department subpoena of all documents? Why do we need a "deal".
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/29/2017 14:18 Comments || Top||

#7  The only deal should be Fusion GPS officers get to stay out of jail, temporarily at least, if they hand over the records.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/29/2017 14:31 Comments || Top||

#8  Jeff Sessions AWOL
Posted by: jvalentour || 10/29/2017 19:35 Comments || Top||


Third woman accuses horny Islamist thinker Tariq Ramadan of sexual harassment
[ENGLISH.ALARABIYA.NET] A third woman has come forward and accused Islamist thinker Tariq Ramadan of allegedly sexually harassing her some years ago.

Yasmina, not her real name, spoke to French daily newspaper Le Gay Pareeien and said the Swiss-Moslem professor threatened her with rape in 2012. The woman has previously opened up about her story with local French media in 2013.

"At first he gave me religious advice through his website, and then asked me for my picture so that he would know who he was talking to. He found me beautiful, and since that day, things became pornographic between us," she told Le Gay Pareeien.

"Two years later he called me to a hotel in the suburbs and then threatened me that he had compromising things on me," she added.

A second complaint was filed on Friday in La Belle France against the Ramadan for rape and sexual assault, following accusations of raping Salafist-turned secular liberal activist Henda Ayari.

Ayari’s lawyer Eric Morain added that he has received other testimonials from women who are thinking of filing a complaint against the intellectual for harassment or sexual assault.

Ramadan is the grandson of the founder of the Moslem Brüderbund Hassan al-Banna and currently a professor of contemporary Islamic studies at Oxford University in the United Kingdom.
Update from The Times of Israel at 8:45 p.m. ET:
Following Ayari’s decision to step forward, journalist Caroline Fourest, who has reported extensively about Ramadan’s controversial career, on Friday wrote in the Marianne weekly that supporters of Ramadan are calling the accusations the result of a “international Zionist plot” to tarnish his reputation.

Ramadan, who in 2009 was fired from Rotterdam’s Erasmus University for taking money from the Iranian regime and who has been refused entry to France and the United States over his ties to Hamas and other terrorist groups, has often aired conspiracy theories about Israel and Jews.

In a column titled “The Double Life of Tariq Ramadan,” Fourest wrote that she first heard in 2009 of sex crimes by Ramadan, whom many critics have accused of encouraging violence and alleged misogyny when speaking to Muslims, and then denouncing it when speaking to non-Muslims. She could not publish the accounts because none of the victims would step forward, she wrote.
Posted by: Fred || 10/29/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Lammies get wood too!
Posted by: Kofi Elmurong6135 || 10/29/2017 23:16 Comments || Top||


-Short Attention Span Theater-
Intriguing details in JFK files — but no bombshell
[IsraelTimes] Trump ordered the release on Thursday of 2,800 classified records but held back other 'sensitive' documents under pressure from the CIA and FBI

Cuban and Russian spies, false leads, strippers, bizarre CIA murder plots and a furious FBI director.

Newly released secret records are full of intriguing details surrounding the liquidation of president John F. Kennedy.
Continued on Page 49
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/29/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Any smoking gun, bombshell, or other incriminating data in these files was purged long ago.
Posted by: ed in texas || 10/29/2017 14:27 Comments || Top||

#2  Probably this that got purged

https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32129399.pdf


LBJ in the KKK
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/29/2017 15:51 Comments || Top||


-Signs, Portents, and the Weather-
This 7-Year-Old Girl Is Pitching at the World Series With a 3D Printed Hand
[THEDAILYBEAST] Hailey Dawson’s doctors told her a prosthetic hand didn’t make sense given she was a growing girl. But a 3D printed hand is making the impossible possible.
Posted by: Fred || 10/29/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:


Africa Horn
Plague alert over Madagascar's dance with the dead
ANTANANARIVO: In Madagascar, ceremonies in which families exhume the remains of dead relatives, rewrap them in fresh cloth and dance with the corpses are a sacred ritual.

But an outbreak of plague sweeping the Indian Ocean island nation has prompted warnings that the macabre spectacle, known as the turning of the bones or body turning, presents a serious risk of contamination.


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Posted by: Anomalous Sources || 10/29/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The hip bone's connected to the ... thigh bone!
The thigh bone's connected to the ... leg bone!

And so on.

Except for those that fall off here and there along the way, of course.
Posted by: gorb || 10/29/2017 3:43 Comments || Top||

#2  "Gimme a hand here?"
Posted by: Frank G || 10/29/2017 9:36 Comments || Top||

#3  What dance steps? Waltz? Tango? Foxtrot? If things get out of hand and they wind up in the hoosgaw does it cost them an arm and a leg to make bail? This is on good reason for cremation.
Posted by: Cheaderhead || 10/29/2017 11:03 Comments || Top||

#4  "so they invent things to get cash from lenders," said Ralisiarisoa
Yeah, nothing starts the loan officer to cutting checks like talk about a plague outbreak. (Whatever it takes to get you out of my office...)
Posted by: ed in texas || 10/29/2017 14:31 Comments || Top||

#5  Plague is endemic in Madagascar. Although nobody knows why the outbreak is larger this year.
Posted by: phil_b || 10/29/2017 19:40 Comments || Top||

#6  It's been suggested that rats in prisons are the cause.
Posted by: phil_b || 10/29/2017 19:42 Comments || Top||


Africa Subsaharan
Brace for Zimbabwe Dollar Return - Biti
[All Africa] People's Democratic Party (PDP) leader Tendai Biti has warned that President Bob Muggsy Mugabe
Nonagenarian President-for-Life of Zim-bob-we who turned the former Breadbasket of Africa into the African Basket Case...
's government will soon reintroduce the Zim-bob-wean dollar as the bloated government struggles with its finances.

Government abandoned the Zim-bob-we dollar in 2009 after the currency had been rendered worthless by hyperinflation. The crisis peaked in 2007 when the country experienced the second-highest recorded inflation rate in history.

Biti, who served as a Finance minister during the Government of National Unity, said Zim-bob-weans should brace for another hyperinflationary environment as Mugabe puts the money printers into high gear.

"Our biggest fear is that Zanu PF's appetite for expenditure is insatiable," said Biti during his second State of the Economy Address (SEA) on Wednesday.

Posted by: Fred || 10/29/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Zanu PF's appetite for expenditure is insatiable,

Oh, Democrats.
Posted by: AlanC || 10/29/2017 7:57 Comments || Top||

#2  ...and RINOs
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/29/2017 9:31 Comments || Top||

#3  I understand that they're going to print the new Zim dollar on toilet paper so people will be forced to accept it. It may even set up foreign trade opportunities with Venezuela.
Posted by: ed in texas || 10/29/2017 14:34 Comments || Top||

#4 
Posted by: 3dc || 10/29/2017 14:36 Comments || Top||

#5  ^ Thing of beauty, there. The obvious stuff cracks me up, then the irony of the anti-counterfeit features sinks in! Fun being slow, sometimes.
Posted by: Crererong Bonaparte2013 || 10/29/2017 23:55 Comments || Top||


Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Massive Russian nuclear war games reported in Arctic
Russia, in a little-noticed move, has carried out a barrage of missile tests across its Arctic territories in what’s described as one of the most massive nuclear missile drills in post-Soviet history.

The Independent Barents Observer reports that Russia’s military fired four ballistic missiles, two in each direction, across the Arctic hemisphere on Thursday evening. The exercises are the latest in what Scandinavian analysts say is a noticeable rise in Russian military activity in a region whose economic importance is growing due to global warming.



The Norway-based news website says two missiles were launched from a Pacific Fleet submarine in the Sea of Okhotsk towards the Chizha test range on the Kanin Peninsula in Arkhangelsk. A Northern Fleet submarine, in another test, is said to have launched another ballistic missile from the Barents Sea. This missile reportedly hit a target in the Kura test range on the Kamchatka Peninsula in the Far East.

A Topol ballistic missile was also launched the same day from Plesetsk in Russia’s Arkhangelsk region, reportedly streaking across the Arctic before its dummy warhead hit a target at the Kura test range in northern Kamchatka Krai in the Russian Far East

Long-range Russian Tu-160 and Tu-95 strategic bombers, as well as Tu-22M bombers are also said to have tested cruise missiles in Kamchatka in the Far East and in Kazakhstan in Central Asia.

Russia’s Defense Ministry acknowledged the tests and said that all were completed successfully.

Russia has accelerated a military buildup in its Arctic region over the last several years. The activity includes the construction of new Arctic bases and the deployment of specialized Arctic military units and equipment, including helicopters, icebreakers and armored vehicles. Moscow is also reportedly developing a new class of nuclear-powered destroyers that can protect its Northern Sea Route.
Posted by: Anomalous Sources || 10/29/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Don't forget the D-10!
Posted by: badanov || 10/29/2017 10:20 Comments || Top||

#2  in a region whose economic importance is growing due to global warming.

Idiot! It's Climate Change now!
Posted by: Frank G || 10/29/2017 10:43 Comments || Top||

#3  Hope they brought their mittens and snow boots.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/29/2017 14:34 Comments || Top||


China-Japan-Koreas
'Massive military response' if N Korea fires nukes: US
[Al Jazeera] The United States will never accept a nuclear-armed North Korea and any nuclear attack by Pyongyang will meet a massive military response, the US defence chief warned.

James Mattis made the comments in Seoul, South Korea, on Saturday at a joint presser with his counterpart Song Young-moo, a day after visiting the demilitarised zone that has divided the two Koreas since the 1950-53 war on the peninsula.

"Make no mistake - any attack on the United States or our allies will be defeated," Mattis said. "Any use of nuclear weapons will be met with a massive military response.

"I can't imagine a condition under which the United States will accept North Korea as a nuclear power... Our combined effort is to deter that sort of threat or to have military options - many different military options - that would realistically reduce that threat as low as possible. And yes, we do have those options," the defence secretary said.

The North's official Rodong Sinmun newspaper accused the US and South Korea on Saturday of "crazily beating the drum of confrontation".

Posted by: Fred || 10/29/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under: Commies

#1  A little late then, eh?
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/29/2017 10:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Brilliant military strategist Maxine Waters has warned that if N Korea nukes the US, Trump will plunge us into war.
Posted by: Rambler in Virginia || 10/29/2017 15:35 Comments || Top||


Has North Korea copied Soviet ICBMs with help from Ukraine?
Fresh evidence suggests that a Ukraine-based institute may be behind North Korea's surprising advance in ICBM technology

Related: N. Korea likely has more special rocket fuel production facilities

Posted by: Anomalous Sources || 10/29/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Just chalk it up as another achievement (liberation of Ukraine from evil Russian oppression) of Obama regime.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/29/2017 2:16 Comments || Top||

#2  Well he did say he would be more flexable after his 2012 election....
Posted by: CrazyFool || 10/29/2017 8:34 Comments || Top||

#3  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2796555/i-deeply-regret-embarrassed-actions-son-vice-president-joe-biden-discharged-navy-one-month-testing-positive-cocaine.html

In May Hunter Biden accepted a position on the board of Burisma Holdings, the Ukraine's largest private gas firm
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/29/2017 20:09 Comments || Top||


Europe
Greek police arrest suspect in bomb attack on ex-premier
[Ynet] Greek police tossed in the calaboose
Keep yer hands where we can see 'em, if yez please!
a 29-year-old suspect Saturday in a kaboom last May on one of the country's former prime ministers.

After a search of his apartment in Athens, police found two 9-mm pistols; 300 bullets; a plastic container with a time bomb mechanism; two plastic containers with explosives; eight forged IDs and "large amounts" of detonators, wiring, fireworks and timers.

Lucas Papademos, 70, was maimed in the thigh and torso on May 25 when he opened a letter bomb in his car. He was hospitalized for over a month. Two others were slightly injured.

Police say the suspect, who they have not named, may have also been involved in mailing parcel bombs last March to the German Finance Ministry and the Gay Paree office of the International Monetary Fund, where a small kaboom injured one person.
Al Ahram adds:
"The search continues" for other suspects after an anti-terror police unit tossed in the clink
Don't shoot, coppers! I'm comin' out!
a 29-year-old Greek man in Athens, police said in a statement.

The man was known to police for his myrmidon activities, a police source said.

The attack, which remains unclaimed, had a similar methodology to that used by Conspiracy of Fire Nuclei, a far-left group which in March mailed an bomb that injured a secretary at the International Monetary Fund (IMF) in Gay Paree.

The group had earlier grabbed credit for a letter bomb, also sent from Greece, discovered at the Berlin offices of German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble.

The bombs contained gunpowder typically used in firecrackers, police said.

Eight other letter bombs, including those addressed to European Economic Affairs Commissioner Pierre Moscovici and then Eurogroup chief Jeroen Dijsselbloem, were intercepted in the aftermath of the Athens attack.

In 2011, a dozen members of Conspiracy of Fire Nuclei, many of whom were very young, were convicted of "participating in a criminal organization" and are serving long prison sentences.

After years of crisis and austerity cuts, the Greek economy is still struggling, and experts have said that the country's continued crisis favours youth radicalisation.

In 2012, Papademos's government came under criticism after it negotiated a huge write-down of the country's privately held debt, which led to Greek social insurance funds losing millions of euros in the process. He also served as Bank of Greece governor from 1994 to 2002.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/29/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [5 views] Top|| File under:

#1  After a search of his apartment in Athens, police found two 9-mm pistols; 300 bullets; a plastic container with a time bomb mechanism; two plastic containers with explosives; eight forged IDs and "large amounts" of detonators, wiring, fireworks and timers.

"Hey, man. Those are for personal use!"
Posted by: Frank G || 10/29/2017 9:39 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Robert Mueller's team interviewed former CIA Director James Woolsey about Mike Flynn
FBI agents for special counsel Robert Mueller have interviewed former CIA Director James Woolsey regarding allegations that former National Security Advisor Mike Flynn discussed a possibly illegal removal of a Turkish cleric from the U.S.

"Ambassador Woolsey and his wife have been in communication with the FBI regarding the Sept. 19, 2016 meeting Ambassador Woolsey was invited to attend by one of Gen. Flynn's business partners," Woolsey spokesman Jonathan Franks said in a statement. "Ambassador Woolsey and his wife have responded to every request, whether from the FBI, or, more recently, the Office of the Special Counsel."

The FBI has communicated with Woolsey both before and after Mueller’s team took over, according to an NBC News on Friday.

Woolsey revealed in March that Flynn discussed with Turkish officials the possibility of removing Fethullah Gulen from the U.S. The Muslim cleric has been blamed by the Turkish government for helping spur last summer's attempted coup to overthrow Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and his government.

Flynn met in New York with Turkish officials last year when he was a lieutenant general and had been advising the Trump campaign. He reportedly said that Gulen could be removed from the country without using the U.S. extradition legal process.

Flynn was removed from his post at the White House earlier this year after it was revealed Flynn misled the administration about his sanctions-related communications with Russians prior to Trump’s inauguration.
Emphasis added
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/29/2017 14:28 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Fetullah Gulen was never going to be sent back to Turkey, unless of course as the post-Erdogan, Klingon sanctioned, regime change leader of the country.

Mike Flynn read the tea leaves wrong on that one. Obviously he wasn't 'read on' to the project.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/29/2017 14:39 Comments || Top||

#2  Liberal media (CBS for one, CNN for another) reports Mueller's grand jury indicted someone on Friday with the charges to be unwrapped Monday. Speculation wavers between Manafort and Flynn as the subject of the indictment. Can't help wondering when they'll get around to Hillary.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/29/2017 14:45 Comments || Top||

#3  Do I need a /sarc tag for that last sentence?
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/29/2017 14:46 Comments || Top||

#4  My money is on Deep State arch enemy Mike Flynn.

Nothing will happen to the Hildebeest. To take her down would be to take Soetoro down. Our first Kenyan master cannot and will not be seen as a failure. If it were possible for us to 'fast forward' fifty years, it might be amazing to discover the 'Christ-like' figure he had become.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/29/2017 14:50 Comments || Top||

#5  Indicting Manafort opens the door to Dem prosecutions. Discovery on a case involving the Podesta's would be too much to hope for.
Posted by: Jeremiah Gleretle3997 || 10/29/2017 14:58 Comments || Top||


#7  I have great respect and admiration for Jeff Sessions but I still can't help wondering if it wouldn't be better to have Chris Christie as AG. I know Christie has his faults but seems like he would be an aggressive bulldog at DOJ and I'd love to see him bite Hillary's butt.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/29/2017 15:09 Comments || Top||

#8  Think if you will, where General David Petraeus might be today had he not met Paula Broadwell. Donald Trump was an outlier. The intended future president was the Hildebeest. She had been selected a number of years previously. These knuckle-dragging military people just get in the way. They must be dealt with.

[sarc off]
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/29/2017 15:28 Comments || Top||


Goodbye Home Loan Interest Deduction: Home Builders Will Oppose Republican Tax Bill
[WSJ] WASHINGTON‐An influential home builders group will oppose the House Republicans’ forthcoming tax bill, in a blow to the party’s attempt to forge unity among business sectors.

The National Association of Home Builders, which had expressed openness to changes in the mortgage-interest deduction, decided it couldn’t back the GOP bill. The association’s leaders made the decision after top Republicans told them this weekend that they wouldn’t replace deductions for mortgage interest and property taxes with a new tax credit.

Instead, the bill will retain an itemized deduction for property taxes, the House Ways and Means Committee said late Saturday. That is a concession to lawmakers from high-tax states such as New York and New Jersey.

"It’s a bad bill for the housing sector," Jerry Howard, CEO of the builders group, said in an interview on Saturday. "We will not be for it."

House Republicans plan to release their tax bill on Wednesday. The tax legislation is the centerpiece of the GOP’s economic and political agenda, and many details have been closely guarded as lawmakers try to build a coalition to push it through the House before Thanksgiving.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/29/2017 11:27 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under:

#1  The third possibility, if they choose to make this the hill they die on, is to reduce the deduction or remove it altogether -- the Democrats in the House mostly come from those high tax states.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/29/2017 11:42 Comments || Top||

#2  It's all 'needs based.' If you're privileged wealthy enough to own your own home, you have no 'need' for a tax break on the home loan interest.

If you were naive enough to believe Fred Thompson and Tom Selleck's pitch on Reserve Mortgages, you surely won't mind paying taxes on loan interest.

[sarc off]
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/29/2017 11:53 Comments || Top||

#3  Why should people in modest income red states subsidize the mortgages of million dollar homes in San Francisco or New York City?

"It’s a bad bill for the housing sector,"

No, its bad for the realty business' ever speculating home prices upward. Ah, poor baby. Those who can adjust by making more affordable housing won't see a slump. Which means those HGTV homes won't be what will constitute the largest selling market.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/29/2017 12:03 Comments || Top||

#4  Instead, the bill will retain an itemized deduction for property taxes, the House Ways and Means Committee said late Saturday. That is a concession to lawmakers from high-tax states such as New York and New Jersey.

Texas doesn't have an income tax, but does have a hefty property tax. So its just not New York or New Jersey.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/29/2017 12:05 Comments || Top||

#5  If there's no mortgage interest deduction, about half of the people who itemize deductions (on Schedule A) will no longer be able to itemize. This is what happens when tax weenies decide they have to 'pay for' tax cuts elsewhere.
Posted by: || 10/29/2017 12:38 Comments || Top||

#6  That last comment was me.
Posted by: Raj || 10/29/2017 12:38 Comments || Top||

#7  Simplification always works best. Interest deduction was an incentive to borrow money and make housing more affordable; however, with all these type of short term solutions that turn into status quo the market prices adjust (both on loans and home prices). The benefit to home buyers is minimal today and the cost to taxpayers not taking the deduction is unfair. Get rid of the deduction and maybe more people will payoff their mortgage.
Posted by: Airandee || 10/29/2017 12:45 Comments || Top||

#8  So the roughly 100% increase in the standard deduction wouldn't offset this? (unless you're into buying starter castles or taking 60-year notes)

Schedule A also covers charitable deductions, state and local taxes paid (also on the block), employment expenses plus a couple more. Didn't pull one up to look.
Posted by: Mullah Richard || 10/29/2017 12:50 Comments || Top||

#9  When you are about to go bust you increase income and/or reduce spending. These lizards arent taking a pay cut. So they will take more from the middle class.
Posted by: Threatch Jeamp8135 || 10/29/2017 13:56 Comments || Top||

#10  The bill also increases the standard deduction for $12K to $24K. So this only hurts people with interest and property tax in excess of $12K. That's the upper middle class, not the middle class.

We over invest in housing because of this federal subsidy. It's one reason housing costs more than it should. The same thing is true of medical costs. The primary cause of high medical costs is the deductibility of health insurance premiums for companies.

Every time the government intervenes in markets to try to "help" someone, it ends up creating distortions that hurt society overall.

The sixteenth amendment should be repealed and the federal government should go back to excise taxes and a sales tax.
Posted by: Heriberto Lover of the Hatfields1923 || 10/29/2017 14:28 Comments || Top||

#11  The thing that infuriates me is all this tax cut talk and not one bit of talk from Congress about decreaasing the size of the federal government. If you do not do that, it will be bankrupt and insolvent and collapse. Congress has all the authority to spend but no fiduciary responsibility. This is a recipe for disaster.
Posted by: Alaska Paul || 10/29/2017 14:34 Comments || Top||

#12  I've been watching these home builder for decades now and I have zero sympathy for them. Ask them how they feel about the sub prime mortgages that are still happening even after the 2008 mortgage meltdown. Yeah, you make the mortgages painless at the outset but increasingly painful and the mortgagee gets deeper into it. But with no money down required it's no surprise that home prices skyrocket. Well, you can imagine how the home builders feel about that. They pocket the money and when the house of cards falls the taxpayers get stuck with the bailout. Housing prices fall when all those houses go into foreclosure and it's really funny then to listen to the developers and politicians. who've been screaming for decades about how we need more affordable housing, talk about how we need to get housing prices back up where they were. Two faced sons of bitches. But you know damn well the politicians will give home builders what they want because home builders give the politicians what they want.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/29/2017 14:59 Comments || Top||

#13  Avg home price in San Diego County is $590K
Posted by: Frank G || 10/29/2017 15:16 Comments || Top||

#14  This was an anti-capitalist subsidy.

Good for Trump to remove this most rentier of tax-breaks for the elite.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/29/2017 15:17 Comments || Top||

#15  It's not quite true that removing the mortgage interest deduction only helps the upper-upper middle class and wealthy.

People who've had to remortgage modest homes in order to cover healthcare for loved ones could be hit hard with this shift. A combination of higher interest rates / having to pay mortgage payments on a house that could have been paid off earlier, plus seriously onerous medical bills, could easily exceed what a $24k standard deduction would mean for them. Net = negative impact on such families.

It's true that someone will be hit by any changes. But it's not true that this particular proposed change will only hurt mini-mansion owners.
Posted by: Albemarle Dingle5877 || 10/29/2017 16:38 Comments || Top||

#16  Maybe compromise and phase it out over 20 years. This tax just perverts the market.
Posted by: gorb || 10/29/2017 16:46 Comments || Top||

#17  The sole long-term effect of this subsidy is to push up loan values which tends to help the bondholders of banks.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/29/2017 17:23 Comments || Top||


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Man in Rahim Yar Khan handed life imprisonment for committing blasphemy
[DAWN] The additional district and sessions court in Rahim Yar Khan sentenced a man to life imprisonment on the charges of committing blasphemy, Dawn reported on Saturday.

The court also ordered the convict to submit Rs1 million fine.

In his verdict, Additional District and Sessions Judge Khursheed Ahmed Anjum ruled that the convict had committed blasphemy on the social media.

A spokesperson for the District Police Officer (DPO), Umar Saleem, told Dawn that a complaint was registered against Bhati in July last year for reportedly posting blasphemous content on social media.

Earlier this month, a district and sessions court sentenced three men to death in Sheikhupura on charges of committing blasphemy.

The court had also fined them Rs200,000 each, but if they are unable to pay the fine, they would have to undergo six months of rigorous punishment.

In his verdict, Additional District and Sessions Judge Mian Javed Akram ruled that the three members of the Ahmadi community of Bhoaywal village had committed blasphemy by displaying a poster and banners at their place of worship in a manner that was offending.

Posted by: Fred || 10/29/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [2 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan


Home Front: Culture Wars
George Washington's Church Says Plaque Honoring First President Must Come Down
Leaders at the church that George Washington attended decided that a plaque honoring the first president of the United States must be removed.

Christ Church in Alexandria, Virginia will take down a memorial marking the pew where Washington sat with his family, saying it is not acceptable to all worshipers.



"The plaques in our sanctuary make some in our presence feel unsafe or unwelcome," leaders said, a reference to the fact that Washington was a slaveholder.

"Some visitors and guests who worship with us choose not to return because they receive an unintended message from the prominent presence of the plaques."

"Many in our congregation feel a strong need for the church to stand clearly on the side of 'all are welcome- no exceptions,'" they concluded.

A memorial to Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee will also come down.

The decision comes in the wake of renewed controversy over whether statues honoring Civil War figures should be no longer honored. The debate broke out again over the summer after a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia killed one and injured others.

President Trump expressed concern that the censoring of Confederate generals would lead to dishonoring Thomas Jefferson and George Washington as well.
Posted by: Anomalous Sources || 10/29/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  these asshats need to read their history and if they actually sacrificed more than George Washington, well good for them but I highly doubt they even come close, they need to de deported really!
Posted by: 746 || 10/29/2017 0:07 Comments || Top||

#2  The church leaders in this case are being cowards and hypocrites. If Washington and his ilk attended this facility, then the taint and the invisible stain of shame can never be remedied by removing mere plaques. The church itself must be raised to the ground. All evidence of its very existence must be erased. The purity of personkind must be preserved.
Posted by: JHH || 10/29/2017 0:27 Comments || Top||

#3  Let's pull down the Malcom X signs and statues. He met with the KKK.
Posted by: anymouse || 10/29/2017 0:57 Comments || Top||

#4  I'm very much afraid it won't end without (massive) violence.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/29/2017 2:17 Comments || Top||

#5  I'm very much afraid it won't end without (massive) violence. Posted by: g(r)omgoru

The "violence" has already arrived. It's somewhat localized so far.
Posted by: Besoeker || 10/29/2017 7:00 Comments || Top||

#6  These forefathers through a Great Faith in a Higher Good fought against the slavery of tyranny and high taxation of a crown thereby ushering in s movement that lead to the abolishment of slavery around the world and gave us an industrial revolution that lead mankind to great prosperity. THIS is what the evil on the left finds frightening.
Posted by: Threatch Jeamp8135 || 10/29/2017 9:35 Comments || Top||

#7  Rev. Noelle York-Simmons, the church’s rector

'nuff said
Posted by: Frank G || 10/29/2017 9:50 Comments || Top||

#8  Past time to call out these vermin for what they are. Traitors. Strip their citizenship and deport them to Devil's Island.
Posted by: Silentbrick || 10/29/2017 10:37 Comments || Top||

#9  Pushback:

No one should have to pass someone else’s ideological purity test to be allowed to speak. University life — along with civic life — dies without the free exchange of ideas.

In the face of intimidation, educators must speak up, not shut down. Ours is a position of unique responsibility: We teach people not what to think, but how to think.

Realizing and accepting this has made me — an eminently replaceable, untenured, gay, mixed-race woman with PTSD — realize that no matter the precariousness of my situation, I have a responsibility to model the appreciation of difference and care of thought I try to foster in my students.

If I, like so many colleagues nationwide, am afraid to say what I think, am I not complicit in the problem?

At Reed and nationwide, we have largely stayed silent, probably hoping that this extremist moment in campus politics eventually peters out. But it is wishful thinking to imagine that the conversation will change on its own. It certainly won’t change if more voices representing more positions aren’t added to it. . . . Nuance and careful reasoning are not the tools of the oppressor.
Posted by: trailing wife || 10/29/2017 11:36 Comments || Top||

#10  The "violence" has already arrived.

It is one sided so far.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 10/29/2017 13:09 Comments || Top||

#11  Yes, grom. It's mostly on the South Side.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 10/29/2017 14:40 Comments || Top||

#12  It is not a Church anymore.
Posted by: newc || 10/29/2017 16:08 Comments || Top||

#13  I'll bet it's Marx worshipping though.
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 10/29/2017 19:31 Comments || Top||

#14  Marx appears to be the god of death (at least according to the 20th Century body count).
Posted by: Procopius2k || 10/29/2017 20:46 Comments || Top||

#15  thank you TW, Reed, at the epicenter of all this foolishness ( Portland OR ) also just happens to be one of the brainiest colleges in the USA, thankfully you posted this!
Posted by: 746 || 10/29/2017 22:07 Comments || Top||

#16  Idolatry!
Posted by: Skidmark || 10/29/2017 23:19 Comments || Top||



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