Something to make you smile for the day. Istanbul| Ottomans were the first to walk on the surface of the moon, not Neil Armstrong, said Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, yesterday, during an iftar (fast-breaking) dinner hosted by the Turkish Green Crescent.
Mr. Erdogan claimed that Muslim explorers reached the Moon more than 300 years before the beginning of the Appolo program, vowing to build a mosque "in the crater" where they landed.
"It is alleged that the first man to walk on the moon was Neil Armstrong in 1969," Erdogan said. "In fact, Muslim space explorers reached our satellite 334 years before that, in 1635. Everyone knows the story of the famous aviator, Lagâri Hasan Celebi, the "Ottoman Rocket Man", who made the first successful manned rocket flight in 1633. What you might not know, is that he attempted to reach the moon, two years later, and could very well have succeeded!"
The story of Lagari Hasan Celebi was purported by a famous 17th century Arab merchant and traveller, Mehmed Zilli, also known as Evliya Celebi. In his famous travelog, he explains that Lagari Hasan Celebi launched in a 7-winged rocket using 50 okka (63.5 kg or 140 lbs) of gunpowder. It took off from Sarayburnu, a site below the Topkapi Palace in Istanbul.
As Evliya Celebi wrote, Lagari proclaimed before launch "O my sultan! Be blessed, I am going to talk to Jesus!", before lighting the rocket’s gunpowder. He then ascended more than 200 meters in the air and landed in the sea, hundreds of meters from his takeoff point. Swimming ashore, he allegedly reported: "O my sultan! Jesus sends his regards to you!".
President Erdogan’s surprising claim generated some whispers and laughter from the audience, a reaction that clearly angered the Turkish politician. He slammed the skeptics for mocking his claims, adding that he would soon have the proofs to back his claims.
"Why do you not believe it? Because you’ve never believed that a Muslim can do such a thing, just like you’ve never believed that our ancestors could manage to launch ships in the Golden Horn after transporting them across land," Erdogan said, referring to Ottoman Sultan Mehmet II’s conquest of Istanbul in 1453. "This claim is not new. A number of academics in Turkey and in the rest of the world have made this claim, and I believe they are right. NASA may have destroyed most of the physical evidence of the Ottoman’s success during the Apollo 11 mission, but we’ll try to find any evidence that might have escaped the cover up."
The Turkish President did not, however, give any precision about the proofs he was expecting to find nor how he was hoping to gather them.
The story of Lagâri Hasan Celebi is considered a legend by most historians, and most experts believe that it is impossible that the "aviator" could have survived a flight into outer space.
His first flight was, indeed, addressed in an experiment by the television show MythBusters, on November 11, 2009, in the episode "Crash and Burn". The rocket constructed for the TV show did not adhere closely, however, to Evliya Celebi’s descriptions and the final design did not attempt to utilize materials of the period;
The team noted that Evliya Celebi had not sufficiently specified the alleged design used by Lagâri Hasan, but concluded that it would have been "extremely difficult" for a 17th-century figure, without access to modern steel alloys and welding techniques, to land safely or even achieve thrust at all. This conclusion was backed by the fact that, although the re-imagined rocket rose, it exploded in midflight
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#1
Mooselimbs have to be the first at everything and everywhere.
#5
Ottomans can FOAD and become extinct too. Let them be the first to go extinct for outright moronic stupidity and their galaxy sized inferiority complex rooted in far too much truth.
#8
He then ascended more than 200 meters in the air and landed in the sea, hundreds of meters from his takeoff point.
Like an Islamic Kim Jong Pudge. If I didn't know they were too busy trying to destabilize America, I'd suspect the CIA was slipping LSD into Erdy's mint tea. Hey, maybe it's the ghost of Wild Bill Donovan!
#10
Kim Jong-un is disputing this report. He claims he time traveled to a year before the Turkish landing and sung the North Korean Anthem. He is not saying how he got back...
[Breitbart] Last year, the marionettes rebelled. Naturally, the Great Puppeteer Counter-revolt of 2017 followed.
"I think it’s the obligation of some executive branch officials to refuse to carry that out," former CIA director John Brennan said of the possibility of Donald Trump firing special counsel Robert Mueller. "I would just hope that this is not going to be a partisan issue. That Republicans, Democrats are going to see that the future of this government is at stake and something needs to be done for the good of the future."
Leaving aside the imprudence of the president firing the man investigating his campaign’s alleged ties to Russian interference in the 2016 election, Trump certainly possesses the right to dismiss Mueller. Unelected people who work for the man elected president do not possess the right to thwart the legal directives of their boss.
The American people, after all, elected Trump. Rod Rosenstein elected Mueller.
A fine line exists between anonymous, unelected, unaccountable government officials undermining the president’s legal directives and such people working to overturn the results of last year’s election. One might argue the two as one in the same differing only in degree.
Did the Russians meddle in our electoral process in 2016 or do entrenched bureaucrats do so on a constant basis? How one answers that question dictates one’s response to this current controversy.
November’s results, one might think, would have sparked epiphanies. Americans voted for a populist outsider to, in his words, "drain the swamp." Brennan’s words indicate that the swamp thrives six months after inauguration. The election neither hastened the drain nor chastened the creatures from the swamp. As the late, great Stan Evans oft reflected, people go to Washington imagining it a swamp only to soon regard it as a hot tub. Who wants to vacate a hot tub?
A self-flattering interpretation by the puppeteers imagines Trump voters as Pap Finns resentful of the mere existence of the edumacated elites. Cultural tics surely explain part of this divide. But more so do frustrations with votes repeatedly resulting in policies unwanted by voters. Brennan encouraging employees of the executive branch to subvert the executive comes off as too analogous to the unelected continually sabotaging the will of the electorate that directly caused Trump’s election. Trump’s supporters certainly see it this way. This fight is an extension of the overall fight that colored the presidential election.
#1
Classic projection. These people have been in charge of 'Endless Wars' for decades. Victory over evil is not their goal. Their goal is the effective management of evil.
[American Thinker] One of the big concerns of Republican holdouts in Senate legislation to repeal and replace Obamacare is Medicaid. Many rural and low-income Americans depend on the program. But Medicaid is a huge expense; it’s the feds’ fourth largest outlay, behind only Defense, Social Security, and Medicare. But more than that, Medicaid’s growth rate is also cause for concern.
At the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), the fact sheet for national health expenditure (NHE) lists data for 2015 that helps us put Medicaid costs into context. The first fact is that total national healthcare spending was $3.2T in 2015, about the same as all federal revenue. The second fun fact is that Medicaid spending was $545.1B, and its rate of growth was 9.7 percent, which was significantly faster than the other major components of national healthcare.
Medicaid, however, is a federal-state program. Another report from the CMS, the "2016 Actuarial Report on the Financial Outlook for Medicaid," breaks down spending between the feds and the states in its Executive Summary on page iii (page 9 of the pdf): "Federal Medicaid outlays in 2015 were $349.8 billion and grew 16.0 percent over the previous year, in large part due to the Medicaid eligibility expansion." An annual growth rate of 16 percent seems particularly unsustainable in a welfare program like Medicaid.
[American Thinker] Donald Trump is a naturally polarizing figure. His bread and butter is brazen attacks on those who challenge him. As a media figure and as a business promoter, that worked well. As president, however, Trump needs to pick his fights carefully and avoid needless political bloodletting. Changing people in his administration when he feels that things have gone wrong suggests that he picked the wrong people to begin with, especially in the first six months of his administration.
In some cases, like Comey, a holdover from the Obama administration, Trump should have cleaned house right at the beginning of his term of office, when people naturally understand Trump's need to have his own people in key positions. When Trump gets rid of people who have been his supporters and who have interviewed for the job Trump gives them in his administration, it is a different matter.
Jeff Sessions was the first senator to endorse Trump in his run for the Republican nomination. Sessions is also a man who during his political career has stood up to the Establishment and done what he has believed to be the right thing even if it was not the most politically expedient. Sessions has a reputation among the Republican caucus in the Senate as a particularly honorable and decent man. He also gave up a safe Senate seat as a member of the majority party to serve on Trump's team.
If President Trump fires Attorney General Sessions or if Trump continues to harass Sessions with dumb tweets, then the president runs the risk of alienating honest, genuine Senate conservatives who are immune to threats from Trump but who can give him headaches and problems he cannot imagine.
Almost everything Trump does, except for executive orders, must go through the Senate ‐ legislation, appointments, and treaties. If Trump alienates conservative Republicans in the Senate, it is hard to see how he will be able to do anything during his term as president. Why should these senators trust Trump? Why should they believe he is really conservative, particularly if he taps Rudy Giuliani as the next attorney general, a decent man on the wrong side of nearly every social issue?
Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein spoke just hours after Trump tweeted out his latest attack on Sessions, faulting the attorney general for "a VERY weak position on Hillary Clinton crimes...& Intel leakers!"
#2
I went through the article at the link and it's all about what Sessions did for trump and that Sessions' friends can do to Trump. Not a single word about Sessions' performance as an AG. Curious.
#4
Sessions has a reputation among the Republican caucus in the Senate as a particularly honorable and decent man
Talk about a low bar.
If President Trump fires Attorney General Sessions or if Trump continues to harass Sessions with dumb tweets, then the president runs the risk of alienating honest, genuine Senate conservatives who are immune to threats from Trump but who can give him headaches and problems he cannot imagine.
Trump has been trying to get more of the conservative agenda through than any President since Reagan.
If Senate cons won't support him out of pique, them they're useless (or inimical) and should be replaced.
#5
Ima about done with Trump. I guess we have staff or cabinet meetings via dumbazz "tweets" now a days where the President of the USA berates his AG in front of all. He smears a good man like Sessions in the NYT no less just days after he gives the press exactly what they want by running off Spicer...and replacing him with a slicky boy wealthy liberal NY banker. Sessions and Spicer are both solid conservatives that were fighting Pelosi in the trenches in 2010-2011 and defeated her...while Scaramucci was raising funds for Obama and the dems.
This type of behavior by Trump does not pay well in the South. I and most everyone I know voted for Trump and after this week most folks down here refer to him as an idiot. Trumo needs to STFU and build the wall.
#6
then the president runs the risk of alienating honest, genuine Senate conservatives
Just wondering - when they had dinner a few months ago, did Trump ever apologize to Ted Cruz for massively insulting Heidi Cruz? By my count, Ted's probably one of the few friends Trump has in the Senate.
#8
I will believe in Sessions when he fires his department's lawyers who went after the Sisters of the Poor. A case that is still in motion from his office. Or when he make delay murderers of the VA, not to forget the IRS and Comney,,, do the happy dance perp walks to the closest Federal prison.
Raj Why should Trump ever apologize to Cruz? The first insult was fired at by the Texas lobbyist and Cruz operative Andrea McWilliams. Enter Liz Mair's super PAC "Make America Awesome". She was working out of Cruz supporter Carly Fionia's same PO box and started sending out fliers about Mrs. Trump to upcoming states. Did Teddy apologize for that? Hell no.
Anyone remember weasel Ted's voter intimidation fliers he sent out in Iowa? I mean come on, talk about shades of Obammer's IRS.
#9
I really dont need people speaking for us poeple from the South.
And Trump does not need Sessions talking to the Russians continuing the scam investigation into Trump that came out just before Trump started going after Sessions last week.
[American Thinker] Deep in the Colorado mountains each year is the Aspen Security Forum, a Washington, D.C. establishment gab-fest for discussing "critical issues" of national security and intelligence. Trump Russian collusion and Russian hacking of the election are likely to be hot topics of discussion, either formally or over delicious lunches of Colorado lamb or fresh Rocky Mountain trout. All powerful people need a place to get away, to think, and plan for the future.
Who is doing the discussing and moderating at this "nonpartisan venue"? Such paragons of "nonpartisan" dialogue as Representative Adam Schiff, NBC's Andrea Mitchell, CNN's Wolf Blitzer, and plenty of others, all of whom would feel quite at home at a Washington, D.C. dinner party. Admittance is allowed only with a membership card from "The Establishment Club," also known as the "He-Man Trump-Hater Club," initially started by the Little Rascals but now morphed into an adult club.
One of the panel discussions, moderated by nonpartisan Wolf Blitzer, featured two nonpartisan Obama administration Deep Staters, John Brennan and James Clapper. Discussing one of the Trump stories of the day, that Trump may fire special counsel Robert Mueller, Brennan bromanced Mueller by saying, "It was an inspired choice ‐ they don't come any better." Of course it was a great choice. They are on the same team ‐ the "destroy Trump at any cost team." This is preaching to a bunch of like-minded NeverTrumps in Aspen.
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Istanbul| Ottomans were the first to walk on the surface of the moon, not Neil Armstrong, said Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, yesterday, during an iftar (fast-breaking) dinner hosted by the Turkish Green Crescent.
[Breitbart] Last year, the marionettes rebelled. Naturally, the Great Puppeteer Counter-revolt of 2017 followed.
[American Thinker] Deep in the Colorado mountains each year is the Aspen Security Forum, a Washington, D.C. establishment gab-fest for discussing "critical issues" of national security and intelligence. Trump Russian collusion and Russian hacking of the election are likely to be hot topics of discussion, either formally or over delicious lunches of Colorado lamb or fresh Rocky Mountain trout.
