[American Thinker] The thought of Civil War has been in the minds of many people lately, on both sides of the political and cultural divide. This is not a thing to be wished for, though no one should kid themselves into believing it’s impossible either. Let us take a sober look at what such a conflict might entail. The graphic is also something of a historical trailer.
To begin with, it would not look like the first American Civil War, which was essentially a war between two regions of the country with different economic interests. The divide created two separate countries, both initially contiguous, intact, and relatively homogeneous. The lines of demarcation now are only somewhat regional, and tend to correspond to differences between urban and rural populations, as well as differences of race and class. A second American Civil War would be much more similar to the Spanish Civil War, with the leftists dominating the cities and conservatives controlling the countryside. Conflicts of this nature, with enemies mixed geographically, are a formula for spontaneous mass bloodletting. India-Pakistan during the 1947 partition comes to mind as another modern example. Given an absence of legitimate government and the friction of proximity, ordinary people can be moved to settle grievances by killing one another without the need for governments to egg them on.
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So basically it would revolve around armed incursions out of population centers to gather food and resources and and into the cities for the same.
The problem with this is (1) the basis for victory in a conflict is to identify your opponenent's goal and to deny it to them (I don't see a practical strategy for this here) and (2) how to keep outside actors (Russia, China, freakin' anyone) from entering the game.
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"Without a steady supply of the works of Meryl Streep and Matt Damon, millions of conservatives would instantly drop dead from boredom – that is, according to Meryl Streep."
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An interesting read but no one really knows what will happen after the Ft. Sumter moment. If one looks at the responses to disasters such as hurricanes and floods, people on the right tend to do much better. Survival skills of those on the right tend to be better than for those on the left. The preponderance of the estimated 300mil firearms, 1 trillion rounds of ammo and the reloading capability in the U.S. is most likely owned by those on the right. LEOs and military tend to lean conservative.
One thing is probably close to certain is that a civil war would be a formula for spontaneous mass bloodletting. After years of putting up with whiny liberals, those on the left always trying to shape the narrative, the MSM, trying to destroy a culture, Hollywood. telling us they are better and smarter than the rest of us deplorables and unredeemables and you have a lot of people on the right thinking about settling-up scores--it would be a hot mess.
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I asked Santa for a Model 70 in 30-06 caliber with a 4 to 20 power scope with post and cross hairs.
I also asked for two 1911A1's and about 2000 rounds of ammo...and a Kabar knife. Mrs. Puppet likes to camp and trusts my Ranger training albeit ancient.
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Most families are composed of a combination of snowflakes and conservatives. The snowflakes were created in college or to maintain marital bliss. The conservatives, in my family, are the ones who worked 12 or more hours a day, 6 or more days a week. Ask yourselves, who will you shot?
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My snow flakes know where the survival supplies are cached. They were raised right and some will shed the skin I presume they wear to keep their jobs, families and in-laws.
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I asked Santa for a Model 70 in 30-06 caliber with a 4 to 20 power scope with post and cross hairs.
The grown-up version of a Red Ryder BB gun. You could put an eye out with that - at a hundred meters, I reckon.
I can't be sure, but the graphic looks like Detroit during the '67 riots.
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point of order - the first American Civil War occurred during the War of Independence. Little things like Kings Mountain were home town affairs.
The next one will probably be akin to the Iraqi Insurgency. As mentioned largely urban vs non-urban oriented with a significant disruption of all the financial, commercial, and institutional aspects of the society. Pay back on both sides will be significant. To paraphrase the movie Highlander, in the end there can be only one. The old rhyme applies, all the king's horses and all the king's men couldn't put Humpty together again.
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First, the electric grid & then interstate food & essential supplies transport stops. Like the big 2017 hurricanes, but on a nationwide basis. What is going on 10 miles from where you now live, will be largely unknown to you. May the odds be with you. Take if from there.
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I understand that most police don't live in the cities they patrol, perhaps that's a NYPD thing I got from movies. If this is true the blue metropolises will just tear themselves apart.
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Excellent choice SPOD. Here is useful Cabalas 'previously owned' link (I've taken the liberty of posting 30.06). I stop here on near a daily basis. You really do have to be quick however. The choice items often fly off the shelf:
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Our little town in fly over country has its own power plant located close to a natural gas pipeline. Stripper wells are abundant, we can grow our own food and hunt deer, turkey, and of course angus. A country boy will survive. Speaking of the Detroit riots, my unit, the 3rd. brigade of the 82nd. put a stop to that shit in one day. Six months latter we were in Hue Vietnam helping the Marines put a stop to that shit.
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I live outside of Houston, and while the center of Houston is quite your typical democrat, any attempts at raiding outside of it will end badly. Most of my neighbors are armed, not only at home but when out and about. I suspect the first time such a thing is tried, some of the raiders would die. The second time most of them will die. There won't be a third time because by then the center of Houston will be ringed by people shooting anyone attempting to leave.
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The scenario at #18 is precisely why the progressive anti-gun crowd want the law abiding citizens disarmed. They know it will likely end badly for their constituent base.
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Never hurts to keep a hard copy printout of the leading contributors to the Democratic Party in your county - and the precinct bosses. Just for easy reference when needed
h/t Instapundit
...Donald Trump was a joke until nominated, unelectable until elected, incompetent until he succeeded on most fronts, and about to be impeached until he debunked the collusion nonsense; he has had a very successful year. His enemies have been weighed in the balance and they have been found wanting. They shall have their reward. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all readers, especially the president and Mrs. Trump.
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Yes, very few places to read such positive developments. This man has endured many hostile situations and advanced in spite of all their efforts to derail him. Now the best is yet to come. He is a working president. Long hours and long range plans of what is yet to be. The Democrats and Media will continue their interference but will only experience further erosion of their influence.
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[American Thinker] In the original German poem by Goethe on which the segment is based, the apprentice implores the sorcerer to help him with the mess he has engendered. The German line that translates as "The spirits that I called," is often used to describe situations that spin out of control because allies have been summoned that cannot be controlled.
The spirits the Democratic Party put into service to defeat and unseat Donald Trump have indeed spun out of control and exposed the Left's nefarious schemes for all to see. It's an ugly scenario. Many people may, and should, go to prison if we still have a functioning legal system.
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It's becoming increasingly obvious that a 'functional legal system' is a thing of the past.
The little people still go to jail.
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Was a thing of the past. Is, it is looking more and more to me, a thing of the near future. And beyond, if we maintain Republican majorities in the House and Senate for a bit longer.
[DAWN] 2017 will go down in history as the year mainstream discourse on sexual violence was finally forced to confront the universal impunity enjoyed by perpetrators of assault.
Unfortunately, these global developments have failed to trigger any corresponding debate on the inability of Pakistain’s criminal justice system to provide redress to survivors.
In a country where conviction rates for rape are less than 4% and the National Police Bureau records an average of over 3,000 reported cases every year, the need for gender-sensitive legal and policy reform has never been more critical.
In recent years, any attempts to end impunity have focused on the introduction of piece-meal legislation, which whilst important for political visibility of the women’s movement, has failed to translate into increased conviction rates.
Key amongst the reasons underlying the limited impact of legislative developments in sexual assault is the central role played by gender stereotypes and biases in judicial proceedings in Pakistain.
From the time of the registration of the complaint by the police to the sentencing of the perpetrator, whether or not the victim’s character is in line with what is deemed ’chaste’ or ’pure’ has a far greater bearing on the outcome of the case rather than the nature of the violation she has suffered.
Stereotypes pertaining to what is a ’good woman’ remains the primary consideration for police, prosecutors and judges to decide whether or not a victim’s claim of rape deserves reliance.
In many ways, the decision to come forward and report the crime is the first instance where the criminal justice system begins to view the victim with suspicion.
It is presumed that a woman with honour would never bring shame upon herself by admitting that she had been raped. A ’true victim’ in many ways is one that never comes forward.
Under the Pakistain Penal Code, Section 375, lack of consent on the part of the alleged victim is the primary ingredient for categorising an act of intercourse as rape.
The existence of consent or lack thereof cannot be objectively quantified and thus it falls on the judge to decide whether or not to believe that a victim’s account is reliable.
Reported judgments are littered with references to a victim’s ’loose morals’ and ’easy virtue’ which are taken as irrefutable evidence that she consented to the alleged act and thereby rendering her testimony as false.
For instance, the Lahore High Court in Fahad Aziz v State (2008) disregarded the victim’s rape complaint as "she appeared to be a woman of easy virtue [and] indulged in sexual activities".
Similarly in another decision by the Federal Shariat Court in 2006, the accused was acquitted of all rape charges as the "victim girl was of easy virtue and though she was unmarried and of 16 years, but had lost her virginity".
The determinative nature of the victim’s character to judicial decision making is reinforced by reliance on outdated ’medical’ tests called two-finger rape tests.
A relic of British India, the archaic test involves inserting two fingers into the vagina of the victim in order to determine whether or not she is "habituated to sexual intercourse".
The test is not a legal requirement but a medical practice that has become part of legal jurisprudence.
The affirmative findings of a test i.e. deeming the victim to be habituated to sexual intercourse if her vagina admits two fingers, are relied upon by courts to presume consent.
Thus a woman with a sexual history is assumed to consent forever more and therefore can never be raped.
For instance, the Lahore High Court in Naveed Masih v The State (2008) refused to rely upon the statement of the victim as the "medical report revealed that hymen of victim was torn and vagina admitted two fingers easily".
On the other hand, the Lahore High Court accepted the testimony of the victim in Amanullah v. State (2009) as "vagina admitted two finger tight fully and painfully which showed that sexual intercourse had been firstly committed with her [committed for the first time] and further that she was not a woman of easy virtue and was not used to committing sexual intercourse" [explanation added].
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Soon to be known as the Weinstein Defense....
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"medical report revealed that hymen of victim was torn and vagina admitted two fingers easily"
Utter & reeking BS from medical system & its "experts". Adequate & reliable research has not been done.
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A better test, stick a broomstick handle up the suspect arse, If it goes in, then he's guilty of rape and need to be punished accordingly. The further the handle goes in, the more guilty the suspect is!
Hey, this is just as valid as the "two fingers" test.
[DAWN] A SEMI-ANNUAL Pentagon report to the US Congress on the security situation in Afghanistan has included a troubling assertion about Pakistain-US ties. The report has warned that the US is prepared to take "unilateral steps" in areas where Pakistain differs with the US in how to address the regional militancy threat.
While the report has also stressed the need for dialogue and cooperation with Pakistain, the mere suggestion of unilateral military action inside Pakistain by the US against holy warrior targets is likely to be met with hostility.
The presidency of Donald Trump ...New York real estate developer, described by Dems as illiterate, racist, misogynistic, and what ever other unpleasant descriptions they can think of, elected by the rest of us as 45th President of the United States... has already upended many diplomatic norms, while a more militarised approach against holy warrior threats that America perceives globally suggests a willingness to redefine red lines in ties with other countries. Pakistain must respond carefully to any invasive tactics that the US might attempt.
The triangular relationship between Pakistain, Afghanistan and the US has had both legitimate and less legitimate complaints on all sides.
With Pakistain continuing to suffer terrorist attacks, and credible intelligence suggesting that many of these originate in sanctuaries that anti-Pakistain snuffies have found in Afghanistan, it is clear that Pakistain itself faces a serious threat.
Meanwhile, ...back at the shootout, Butch shot Black Bart's knife out of his hand...... the repeated attempts to pin blame on Pakistain for failures of the US and Kabul overlook a fundamental reality: eventually, there will have to be a political settlement in Afghanistan. Threatening Pakistain with unilateral action against holy warrior networks that Pakistain is also expected to help bring to the negotiating table makes little sense.
Where intelligence is shared with Pakistain of the genesis of certain attacks inside Afghanistan being traced back to its soil, Pakistain has for some years expressed a willingness to act. It has never been clear why that offer has not been taken up earnestly by Afghanistan or the US.
In Afghanistan, the Trump administration seems destined to allow the US military greater leeway for at least the next two years, perhaps for the entire term of the current presidency.
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Since Pakistan is a terrorist nation and the father of nuclear weapons technology for export to terrorist nations like itself, namely North Korea and Iran, Pakistan itself should be third on our denuclearization hit list.
First on the target list should be Pakistan's father of nuclear weapons technology, Abdul Qadeer Khan
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China and Pakistan are to India, what China and the NORKS are to South Korea, and ultimately the U.S. With a bit more encouragement, the Indians could resolve the Paki dilemma.
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Trust me on this one, there are elements within the Indian military only too happy to help us out with Pakastain, a collection of people and geography that no one else wanted.
For Christmas this year, at the United Nations, the USA will be "taking names." The vote comes tomorrow, on a resolution to condemn the United States in the General Assembly for moving its embassy from Tel Aviv to Israel’s capital, which is Jerusalem. With her characteristic charm and candour, Nikki Haley mentioned this yesterday. She’ll be taking the names of those who are naughty or nice, to my favourite superpower.
For years, decades, centuries it seems, the United States has been serving not only as sugar daddy to NATO and the like, but as meals-on-wheels to most of the world’s nasty little third-world despotisms ‐ governed, almost invariably, by Leftists of some sort. And, getting abuse in return, instead of gratitude, for all this "foreign aid." We might want to refer the matter to the ACLU, which objects to Christian displays in public. By comparison to any other world power, the USA has been downright Franciscan. Too, the Americans not only host but generously fund UN operations, at cost not only to their national Treasury, but to the municipal services of the City of New York. And again, they get all this lip in return. Why, Santa, why?
The fear, of course, is that if the Americans don’t pay, the Russians and Chinese will step into the breach. But this is just what we should want. An important part of the late Mr Reagan’s strategy, in winning the Cold War, was to assist the USSR in piling up expenses. The arms race also helped. As the brilliant George P. Schultz explained, much that Washington could afford, overstretched Moscow. Thus the military spending spree, until they said, "Uncle."
As for Nikki Haley, well, I have been half in love with her since the day, four Christmases ago, when a friend showed me a Facebook post by the Governor of South Carolina, as she then was. "I must have been good, Santa gave me a Beretta PX4 Storm," she boasted, with a picture of this elegant little firearm, which fits so nicely in a lady’s purse. The sort of thing a woman needs, I now reflect, while escorting Harvey Weinstein to the police station, in his pajamas. (After calling the tabloids to come and take pictures.) A very pretty pistol indeed: the Italians sure know how to design them. And engineer them, too: packs an even bigger punch than Saint Nicholas of Myra.
I love it when the Americans go John Wayne. It bodes well for the peace of the world. Or perhaps, Clint Eastwood in his Spaghetti Westerns (I don’t know much about movies). For now that Hollywood has gone over entirely to the dark side, we need better theatre from Uncle Sam. A man’s gotta do what a man’s gotta do. And some of the best men are women.
One weak tradition has him actually attending the Council of Nicea in A.D. 325, when Arian doctrine was rejected. The story goes that he got into a heated debate with Arius himself about whether there was a time when the Word did not exist. Nicholas strongly disagreed.
The debate ended suddenly when Nicholas punched out Arius then and there on the floor of the council! This gives new meaning to the ditty: "He's making a list and checking it twice, he's going to find out who's naughty or nice!"
A multi-volume chronology and reference guide set detailing three years of the Mexican Drug War between 2010 and 2012.
Rantburg.com and borderlandbeat.com correspondent and author Chris Covert presents his first non-fiction work detailing
the drug and gang related violence in Mexico.
Chris gives us Mexican press dispatches of drug and gang war violence
over three years, presented in a multi volume set intended to chronicle the death, violence and mayhem which has
dominated Mexico for six years.
Rantburg was assembled from recycled algorithms in the United States of America. No
trees were destroyed in the production of this weblog. We did hurt some, though. Sorry.
