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-Lurid Crime Tales-
Next Week Will Be A Very Bad Week For Democrats and Their Media…
[Last Refuge] The U.S. DOJ Has Begun Taking down the low hanging fruit on the Uranium One Tree ‐ SEE HERE

The Inspector General, Michael Horowitz, Has Begun releasing a years-worth of Investigative Documents to the House Judiciary Committee ‐ SEE HERE

Even Sean Hannity has discovered the BIGGER STORY behind the OIG Report ‐ HERE

And Chairman Devin Nunes is now openly telling his colleagues in congress that the Obama, Lynch and Comey DOJ and FBI FISA violations are beyond their imaginings:
But not mine.
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/13/2018 07:54 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  It's just a matter of time before these offshore " Shell" payments and bribes to a Russian Nuclear Official are linked as well to payments to the Clinton Foundation and possible " Pay to play" allegations. Note that these Bribery payments were made between 2009 thru 2014, ostensibly when The Hilldebeest was Sec. of State and Soe toro was POTUS. Let's see if this guy 'flips' on others ?
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/13/2018 8:06 Comments || Top||

#2  I forsee a story about a squirrel with a bump stock assault rifle shooting up a gang funeral in Chicago dominating the week's news...
Posted by: ed in texas || 01/13/2018 10:57 Comments || Top||

#3  Yes, ed. I would guess a major distraction is in order. That's the modus operandi.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 01/13/2018 12:45 Comments || Top||


#5  This guy did it the wrong way - bribing Russians instead of being bribed by Russians.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 01/13/2018 13:05 Comments || Top||

#6  We'll see.

A basic rule of sales is "Underpromise and overdeliver".

There are many commentators on the right who would benefit from that lesson.

I hope Last Refuge is right, but I've seen enough "IT'S HAPPENING" hype to last me a lifetime.
Posted by: charger || 01/13/2018 14:36 Comments || Top||

#7  Will there be a big conference in Geneva or somewhere so all of the echo chamber media will be out of town and unable cover the story.
Posted by: Sock Puppet of Doom || 01/13/2018 21:18 Comments || Top||


Drop in Prison Population Driven by Decrease in Property, Drug, Immigration Offenses
[Free Beacon] The three-year decline in America's prison population, a reversal of multiple decades of increase, saw a concurrent decrease in the number of Americans held for property, drug, and immigration offenses, and an increase in those incarcerated for violent offenses.

This conclusion is based on data made available Wednesday by the Bureau of Justice Statistics. The BJS’s most recent report, Prisoners in 2016, found that state and federal incarceration levels had dropped for three years in a row between 2014 and 2016, reversing decades of near-continuous growth.

In addition to providing data on overall levels of incarceration, the BJS breaks down those statistics by, among other variables, type of offense. Its most recent report provides state-level distribution of offenses through the end of 2015, and federal-level distribution through September 2016. Over the period of the decline (2014 through 2016 inclusive), federal prisons accounted for about 12 percent of overall incarceration, while state prisons were responsible for the other 88 percent.

At both levels, prison populations declined, and similar patterns occurred in the changes in the distributions of offenses.

Within the states, fewer people were incarcerated for drug and property offenses at the end of 2015 than at the end of 2013. Approximately 11,000 fewer people were held for drug charges, including around 3,000 for drug possession and 8,000 for other drug charges, including drug trafficking. Some 22,000 fewer people were held for property charges, with the plurality of reductions being in the 13,500 people locked up for burglary.
Posted by: Besoeker || 01/13/2018 01:19 || Comments || Link || [3 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Did they 'uncount' the thousands pardoned?
Posted by: Skidmark || 01/13/2018 4:17 Comments || Top||

#2  Of course, you've had a three year increase in verbally and physically assaulting police in major metro areas, so they back off (and the murder rate goes up). Gee, funny that coincidence.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 01/13/2018 9:37 Comments || Top||

#3  Incarceration for non-violent crimes (possession of drugs, dealing, using) is a sick joke and is an abomination.
Posted by: Clem || 01/13/2018 17:30 Comments || Top||

#4  And so the opioid epidemic show must go on, right? Tell that to the parents of numerous dead heroin addicted young people.
Posted by: Cheretle Angeans6218 || 01/13/2018 17:35 Comments || Top||


-Land of the Free
This Week in Guns, January 13th, 2018


By Chris Covert
Rantburg.com

Another gem from Western Rifle Shooters Association includes lessons for squad on squad contact tactics.

Smith Sights, which manufactures an after-market front sight, said Wednesday that Facebook tends to approve his ads after he is silent for a while about his conservative politics. That's okay, because Milo Yianopolis is suing Twitter for their discrimination against conservatives.

Suing a business entity for their political views: doesn't that go against the whole 1st Amendment? Top tech companies don't want to help their blood enemies and they don't want to pay them even if their services are useful. It goes back to freedom of association. I understand if Milo wants to strip mine Twitter for their behavior, but it won't be because of 1st Amendment or other lofty issues, but because of a business issue. All well and good. But suing to remedy an action based on politics is something so dumb only a lawyer could have conceived it.

By the way, I have installed the Smith Sight on my Mosin-Nagant and it really helped.

And in the area of "Don't Leave Home Without It", there is the 60 round AK-74 magazine.

Loads.

Rantburg's summary for arms and ammunition:

Pistol ammunition prices were mostly steady. Rifle ammunition prices were mostly steady.

Prices for used pistols were lower. Prices for used rifles were mixed.

New Lows:

Virginia: .40 caliber S&W (Glock or other semiautomatic): Smith & Wesson 410: $220

Pistol Ammunition

.45 Caliber, 230 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (4Q, 2017)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Red River Reloading, Silver Bear, FMJ, Steel Casing, .22 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: East Carolina Trading, Own brand, FMJ, Brass Casing, Reloads, .21 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks))

.40 Caliber Smith & Wesson, 180 Grain, From Last Week: +.03 Each
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Ammo King, Estate, FN, Brass Casing, Reloads .21 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: FedArm, Own Brand, TPMJ, Brass Casing, Reloads, .17 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks))

9mm Parabellum, 115 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3Q, 2017)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Extreme Reloading, Own Brand, RN, Brass Casing, Reloads .14 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Fedarm, Own Brand, RN, Brass Casing, Reloads .14 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks))

.357 Magnum, 158 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3Q, 2017)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .23 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 1,000 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .23 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3Q, 2017))

.38 Special, 158 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3 Weeks)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Highland Lakes Ammo, Own Brand, FN, Brass Casing, Reloads .24 per round
Cheapest Bulk: 500 rounds: Ammo Valley, Own brand, FN, Brass Casing, Reloads, .24 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2 Weeks)

Rifle Ammunition

.223 Caliber/5.56mm 55 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (4Q, 2017)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Able's, Wolf WPA, FMJ, Steel Casing, .20 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Wolf WPA, FMJ, Steel Casing, .20 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (4Q, 2017))

.308 NATO 150 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (3Q, 2017)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .32 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: SG Ammo, Tulammo, FMJ, Steel Casing, .30 per round (From Last Week: -.02 Each After Unchanged (6 Weeks))

7.62x39mm AK 123 Grain, From Last Week: +.01 Each After Unchanged (2 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Wolf WPA, FMJ, Steel Casing, .19 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 1,000 rounds: True Shot Gun Club, Wolf WPA, Steel Casing, FMJ, .19 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (3Q, 2017))

.30-06 Springfield 145 Grain. From Last Week: Unchanged (9 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Wolf WPA, Steel Casing, FMJ, .54 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: United Nations Ammo, Wolf WPA, Steel Casing, FMJ, .53 per round (From Last week: Unchanged (4Q, 2017))

.300 Winchester Magnum 150 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (6 Weeks)
Cheapest, 20 rounds: LAX Ammunition, Prvi Partizan, Brass Casing, SP, .81 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 500 rounds: Target Sports USA, Prvi Partizan, Brass Casing, SP, .85 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (8 Weeks)

.338 Lapua Magnum 250 Grain, From Last Week: -.25 Each
Cheapest, 20 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Ten Ring, Brass Casing, SP, 2.15 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 200 rounds: Cabelas, Prvi Partizan, Brass Casing, HPBT, 2.80 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (5 Weeks))

.22 LR 40 Grain, From Last Week: Unchanged (2Q, 2017)
Cheapest, 50 rounds: Ammo King, Aguila, RNL, .04 per round
Cheapest Bulk, 5,000 rounds: Outdoor Limited, Aguila, RNL, .04 per round (From Last Week: Unchanged (2Q, 2017))

Guns for Private Sale
Rifles


.223/5.56mm (AR Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $500 Last Week Avg: $480(+) ($616 (2Q, 2015), $387 (19 Weeks))
Arizona (201, 3Q, 2017(+3))(113, 112): Ruger 556: $550 ($740 (3 Weeks), $300 (18 Weeks))

Texas (484, 3Q, 2017(+3))(354, 371): Del-Ton Echo: $550 ($700 (1Q, 2015), $350 (2Q, 2015))
Pennsylvania (249, 3Q, 2017(+6))(148, 155): Bushmaster ORC: $550 ($700 (2Q, 2015), $300 (3Q, 2015))
Virginia (282, 3Q, 2017)(220, 217): Palmetto State Armory: $450 ($750 (1Q, 2015), $300 (7 Weeks))
Florida (679, 3Q, 2017)(466, 460): Anderson Arms: $400 ($650 (2Q, 2015), $380 (1Q, 2015))

.308 NATO (AR-10 Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $1,040 Last Week Avg: $855(+) ($1,359 (2Q, 2015), $766 (31 Weeks))
Arizona (49, 3Q, 2017(+6))(47, 46): Palmetto State Armory: $1,100 ($2,300 (31 Weeks), $500 (14 Weeks))
Texas (178, 3Q, 2017)(85, 84): DPMS Panther: $1,000 ($1,500 (4Q, 2014), $650 (4 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (54, 3Q, 2017)(31, 35): Sig Sauer Patrol 716: $1,600 ($1,600 (4Q, 2016), $700 (3Q, 2015))
Virginia (86, 3Q, 2017)(61, 64): DPMS: $750 ($2,750 (1Q, 2016), $675 (10 Weeks))
Florida (128, 3Q, 2017(+3))(49, 82): DPMS: $750 ($1,950 (2Q, 1016), $500 (3Q, 2015))

7.62x39mm (AK Pattern Semiautomatic) Average Price: $585 Last Week Avg: $640(-) ($668 (3Q, 2016), $450 (3Q, 2015))
Arizona (34, 3Q, 2017(+3))(28, 24): Zastava: $650 ($925 (31 Weeks), $400 (36 Weeks))
Texas (141, 3Q, 2017)(73, 67): Zastava N-PAP: $600 ($800 (1Q, 2016), $350 (3Q, 2014))
Pennsylvania (75, 3Q, 2017)(46, 46): CAI: $600 ($750 (1Q, 2015), $375 (1Q, 2015))
Virginia (72, 3Q, 2017)(59, 54): RAS-47: $575 ($700 (2Q, 2016), $300 (10 Weeks))
Florida (146, 3Q, 2017)(141, 132): Palmetto State Armory: $500 ($700 (1Q, 2016), $300 (4Q, 2014))

30-30 Winchester Lever Action Average Price: $390 Last Week Avg: $390(=) ($495 (4Q, 2016), $296 (3Q, 2015))
Arizona (14, 3Q, 2017)(7, 4): Winchester 94: $400 ($500 (51 Weeks), $200 (36 Weeks))
Texas (35, 3Q, 2017(+2))(28, 31): Marlin: $400 ($550 (1Q, 2015), $295 (34 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (23, 3Q, 2017)(13, 13): Marlin: $325 ($450 (1Q, 2015), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Virginia (19, 3Q, 2017(+3))(11, 8): Winchester Ranger: $350 ($670 (2Q, 2016), $250 (4Q, 2015))
Florida (34, 3Q, 2017)(17, 20): Marlin: $475 ($500 (1Q, 2015), $250 (2Q, 2015))

Pistols

.45 caliber ACP (M1911 Pattern Semiautomatic Pistol) Average Price: $466 Last Week Avg: $491(-) ($525 (3Q, 2016), $350 (4Q, 2015))
Arizona (134, 3Q, 2017(+5))(108, 99): Tisas: $430 ($700 (35 Weeks), $325 (21 Weeks))
Texas (361, 3Q, 2017 (+3))(258, 242): Remington R1: $550 ($600 (4Q, 2014), $300 (4Q, 2016))
Pennsylvania (178, 3Q, 2017)(156, 161): Remington R1: $450 ($600 (23 Weeks), $300 (2Q, 2015))
Virginia (204, 3Q, 2017(+3))(159, 163): Rock Island Armory: $500 ($775 (23 Weeks), $250 (4Q, 2014))
Florida (440, 3Q, 2017)(326, 330): Springfield: $400 ($500 (1Q, 2016), $250 (1Q, 2015))

9mm (Beretta 92FS or other Semiautomatic) Average Price: $261 Last Week Avg: $290(-) ($358 (1Q, 2016), $207 (36 Weeks))
Arizona (238, 3Q, 2017)(206, 197): Taurus G2: $250 ($400 (42 Weeks), $180 (10 Weeks))
Texas (586, 3Q, 2017(+3))(496, 482): Diamond Back DB9: $220 ($355 (1Q, 2015), $180 (12 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (368, 3Q, 2017)(334, 335): Smith & Wesson SD9VE: $250 ($350 (4Q 2014), $150 (48 Weeks))
Virginia (365, 3Q, 2017(+6))(303, 313): Smith & Wesson SD9VE: $260 ($425 (4Q, 2016), $189 (2Q, 2016))
Florida (827, 3Q, 2017)(692, 640): Walther PPS: $325 ($400 (1Q, 2016), $160 (36 Weeks))

.40 caliber S&W (Glock or other semiautomatic) Average Price: $281 Last Week Avg: $312(-) ($399 (1Q, 2016), $262 (2Q, 2016))
Arizona (77, 3Q, 2017(+2))(48, 47): Stoeger Cougar: $360 ($500 (1Q, 2017), $195 (32 Weeks))
Texas (156, 3Q, 2017(+2))(116, 106): Taurus PT140: $200 ($425 (4Q, 2014), $180 (15 Weeks))
Pennsylvania (115, 3Q, 2017(+5))(96, 94): Sig Sauer 2340: $325 ($450 (2Q, 2016), $200 (3Q, 2016))
Virginia (109, 3Q, 2017(+4))(88, 82): Smith & Wesson 410: $220 ($450 (2Q, 2015), $220 (CA: $250 (5 Weeks())
Florida (193, 3Q, 2017(+3))(147, 158): Springfield XD 40: $300 ($400 (1Q, 2015), $199 (4Q, 2015))

Used Gun of the Week: (Vermont)
Ruger Scout LH Bolt Action rifle chambered in .308 NATO
Posted by: badanov || 01/13/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [1 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Looks like the nearest planned Project Appleseed will be in Tishomingo, OK.

That. Is a bit of a drive. Especially to not go to that really good sandwich shop there at the OK/TX border.
Posted by: swksvolFF || 01/13/2018 18:24 Comments || Top||


Economy
Stocks end at records, book weekly gains as earnings season kicks off
[Market Watch] U.S. stock-market indexes closed at records on Friday and booked weekly gains, as investors remained optimistic over the economy and the state of American corporations as the fourth-quarter earnings season began.

The U.S. stock market will be closed on Monday for Martin Luther King Jr. Day.



Posted by: Besoeker || 01/13/2018 01:41 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Oil stocks were doing very well that's why the jerks in NYNY gov decided to sue them all.
Posted by: 3dc || 01/13/2018 21:52 Comments || Top||


The Grand Turk
Erdogan learns that saying mean things only makes you enemies
[ALMASDARNEWS] Ottoman Turkish President Sultan Recep Tayyip Erdogan the First
... Turkey's version of Mohammed Morsi but they voted him back in so they deserve him. It's a sin, a shame, and a felony to insult the president of Turkey...
appears to be learning that even in the complex and inherently paranoid environment of international relations one fixed principal remains that can also be applied to basic relations between individuals ‐ saying mean things makes you enemies and saying nice things makes you friends.

Almost two weeks ago, Erdogan ‐ speaking before Ottoman Turkish media ‐ made a highly unexpected comment in regards to European relations, pronouncing that ’I always say this: We are obliged to lessen the number of foes and increase the number of friends.’

Indeed, the Ottoman Turkish president might have always said that, but in practice it seems that he is only now just learning ‐ after a 27 year career in various seats of public office ‐ that the act of saying nice things is part of the obligation to reduce enemies and gain friends.

The statement came after most of 2017 witnessed Erdogan slander European leaders as fascist
...anybody not a leftist...
s of their lack of interest in conducting their own nations’ internal affairs according to how he thought they should be conducted.

As far as fair play in politics goes, there is nothing immoral with criticizing the leaderships of other nations (even over domestic matters), however it can make one very undesirable to be allies with when they mean things at the same time as asking for privileges ‐ in Erdogan’s case, European Union
...the successor to the Holy Roman Empire, only without the Hapsburgs and the nifty uniforms and the dancing...
membership.

Whether the Ottoman Turkish president can retain the knowledge of this most crucial of lessons in regards to relations at any level (personal and professional, individual and international) ‐ and possibly even develop further on the notion to include offering practical benefits in exchange for practical benefits ‐ to aid The Sick Man of Europe Turkey
...just another cheapjack Moslem dictatorship, brought to you by the Moslem Brüderbund....
’s long overdue re-rapprochement with Europe
...also known as Moslem Lebensraum...
is yet to be seen.

Posted by: Fred || 01/13/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [0 views] Top|| File under: Sublime Porte

#1  slander European leaders as fascists


I thought truth was the perfect defense against a charge of slander.
Posted by: AlanC || 01/13/2018 8:22 Comments || Top||


India-Pakistan
Monsters amongst us
[DAWN] KASUR is once again the scene of a depraved crime against a child. The rape and murder of seven-year-old Zainab is a grotesque illustration of the state’s increasing disconnect with the people.

The little girl went missing last Thursday, kidnapped while on her way to a religious tuition centre; her brutalised body was found on Wednesday, discarded on a heap of garbage.

In 2015, horrific details emerged of a child pornography ring that had been preying for years on several minors in Kasur district, making videos in which the victims were coerced into performing sex acts.

Despite the outrage triggered by that case, the criminal justice system remains as dysfunctional as ever. For Zainab’s abduction and rape is reportedly preceded by no less than 12 similar cases ‐ still unsolved ‐ within a two-kilometre radius in Kasur city during the past two years.

But this time, public anger spilled over on the streets of Punjab
1.) Little Orphan Annie's bodyguard
2.) A province of Pakistain ruled by one of the Sharif brothers
3.) A province of India. It is majority (60 percent) Sikh and Hindoo (37 percent), which means it has relatively few Moslem riots....

with riots continuing into the second day. Police firing into the crowd of protesters left two people dead.

No matter which society, crimes against children evoke an especially acute horror. In Pakistain, that initial revulsion comes up against a state callously indifferent to its duty to protect citizens, even the younger segment of the population.

Criminal investigations are not of a standard that can lead to prosecutions; traumatised child victims are not handled with sensitivity by the police, nor does the latter liaise with organizations trained in rape counselling who can help these minors deal with their ordeal.

Law enforcement’s lackadaisical attitude, which is of course generally applicable to crimes across the board ‐ is born out of the knowledge that there will be absolutely no repercussions for their failure to properly compile and analyse evidence, an approach that takes time and discipline.

After the child porn ring was unearthed in Kasur, years after it had claimed its first victims, one would have imagined that the police would have expended every effort to track down the individuals responsible for the rape and abduction, and in some cases murder, of so many other girls in the same area.

Meanwhile,
...back at the palazzo, Count Guido had been cornered by the banditti...
as seen time and again, brute force is often the tactic of choice to deal with public protests.

Again, it is the easy way out. Endemic abuse of power and lack of justice have left society seething with pent-up frustration, an impotent rage that spills over into mob violence as witnessed over the last two days.

While such mayhem cannot be condoned, it arises from very legitimate, yet unmet, expectations.

The criminal justice system must be overhauled and reformed to serve the people. Underscoring the scale of the problem, the bodies of two more child rape victims surfaced yesterday in parts of Punjab other than Kasur.

The paedophiles that live amongst us should no longer be able to freely walk the streets.

Posted by: Fred || 01/13/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under: Govt of Pakistan

#1  The paedophiles that live amongst us should no longer be able to freely walk the streets.
Posted by: Skidmark || 01/13/2018 4:18 Comments || Top||

#2  Unless they're Hollyweird moguls.
Posted by: Procopius2k || 01/13/2018 9:35 Comments || Top||

#3  The rape of a seven year old girl is against the will of Allah. Just.
Posted by: Grunter || 01/13/2018 13:34 Comments || Top||


Syria-Lebanon-Iran
The Poor Man's Air Force? Rebel Drones Attack Russia's Airbase in Syria - bellingcat
Posted by: newc || 01/13/2018 00:00 || Comments || Link || [4 views] Top|| File under:

#1  ...Although the JV has figured out how to use drones, I am extremely skeptical of the 'swarm attack' claim. I'm thinkin' - and your mileage may vary, of course - that the Soviet Russian base got hit by an old-time ground attack, and this is the official cover explanation.

Mike
Posted by: Mike Kozlowski || 01/13/2018 6:51 Comments || Top||

#2  They're also upset that there was an E-8 cruising past in the Med when this all went down.
Posted by: ed in texas || 01/13/2018 9:59 Comments || Top||

#3  Excuse me, P-8.
Posted by: ed in texas || 01/13/2018 10:00 Comments || Top||

#4  Doesn't add up. Allegedly these drones had over the horizon capability (not bargain basement). They were a coordinated, even slaved attack but not synchronized to qualify as swarming. The Russians just happened to have the correct assets available and alert to tag all the inbounds within a very narrow reaction window.

My take is the Russian version of a "red team" conducted a planned exercise simulating a multiple vector deliberate attack to test the resilience of the SOP defenses. That explains the field expedient drones, the lack of penetration/damage.

Otherwise it would seem to simply be a probing attack against a brittle (not hard) target. Note there is no independent confirmation that the mortar round payloads were live or inert
Posted by: Blossom Hupager6063 || 01/13/2018 20:56 Comments || Top||

#5  if they had used these RC planes as cheap models of a swarm the attack would have been much more effective.

Posted by: 3dc || 01/13/2018 21:56 Comments || Top||

#6  Russians said they tapped in to a data port and were able to bring seven of them down.

The drones' flight path was programmed and supposedly impervious to jamming. A nearby Russian ELINT unit was able to tap into the drones' data port and to bring some of them down.
Posted by: badanov || 01/13/2018 22:05 Comments || Top||



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Sun 2018-01-07
  SAS soldier cut head off jihadi with a SPADE after running out of ammo
Sat 2018-01-06
  U.S. freezes grant to UNRWA
Fri 2018-01-05
  13 Islamic State members killed, injured in operation, northeast of Baquba
Thu 2018-01-04
  Revolutionary Guards deployed to crush Iran demonstrations
Wed 2018-01-03
  Egypt executes four Islamist extremists over 2015 bomb attack
Tue 2018-01-02
  Pakistan plans takeover of charities run by Lashkar-e-Taiba
Mon 2018-01-01
  Nigeria: Scores Killed in Boko Haram Attacks in Borno, Yobe
Sun 2017-12-31
  Iran protests: Telegram and Instagram restricted
Sat 2017-12-30
  IS says it was behind Saint Petersburg supermarket bombing


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