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EU vs. GMO, kinda
[RT] Not all Italian farmers welcome a European court ruling this week allowing growers to cultivate genetically-modified corn in Italy. Some farmers told RT that the majority reject GM seeds and question the EU interfering in national laws.

The European Court of Justice on Wednesday ruled in favor of Giorgio Fidenato, an Italian activist farmer who faces fines for growing genetically-modified maize MON 810 on his land in 2014, despite a 2013 government decree banning its cultivation.

In 2013, Italy asked the European Commission to adopt emergency measures prohibiting the planting of the Monsanto-produced seeds in light of new scientific studies carried out by Italian scientists.

The Italian government is fearful that genetically-modified foods are less natural than traditional crops and could therefore be dangerous and have lasting negative effects.

“These crops are forbidden because we still do not understand what the consequences are. So far, there has been no proper and in-depth research. For this reason, we do not know in five years, ten years, twenty years, what can happen,” Mauro Uniformi, Vice President of the Association of Agronomist and Forest Doctors, told RT.
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/19/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [9 views] Top|| File under:

#1  "GMO will make you sterile and your children stupid!"

"Oh, maybe we're too late."
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/19/2017 0:40 Comments || Top||

#2  My F150 hates it. Just look what it does to weed eaters and small engines, or am I off topic ?
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/19/2017 0:44 Comments || Top||

#3  Not at all off topic. When you read GMO, think Roundup Ready. And nothing is more Roundup Ready than subsidized US corn production for cheap unhealthy food and expensive unnecessary alternative fuel. Corn derived products aren't good for the animals we eat not for you. Not good for your truck either.
Posted by: Crusoth Clock7726 || 09/19/2017 8:58 Comments || Top||

#4  Good for 'Big Farma' though eh Crusoth? Yes, I thought so.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/19/2017 9:01 Comments || Top||

#5  Monocultures are great until they aren't. The Bananas you buy in the store are a monoculture and they may go extinct like the previous preferred commercial variety. One disease can wipe out the whole supply...
Posted by: magpie || 09/19/2017 12:39 Comments || Top||

#6  F-150? Drink up!
Posted by: Frank G || 09/19/2017 17:10 Comments || Top||

#7  I like corn on the cob. I suspect that's because it's not good for me. Ditto the 51% corn requirement in the bourbon mashbill...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 09/19/2017 17:48 Comments || Top||

#8  Wait!
So we could GMO poppies then wipe out the next season?
Who's getting those trade dollars Pappy?
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/19/2017 19:44 Comments || Top||


Europe
Spain (Catalonia) Independence Referendum, Celeste Tel poll: Yes: 66% No: 34%
Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 09/19/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [6 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Spain being Spain, or did I miss something?
Posted by: swksvolFF || 09/19/2017 17:37 Comments || Top||


Home Front: Politix
Protesters call out Pelosi over Trump DACA deal
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/19/2017 00:54 || Comments || Link || [7 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Mockingly funny. She looks both mad and baffled.
Posted by: Woodrow || 09/19/2017 13:43 Comments || Top||

#2  Poor stupid Nancy still doesn't get it though. These people don't want amnesty. They don't want democracy. They want our country.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 09/19/2017 17:01 Comments || Top||

#3  They want to go by Mexican values, not American values.
Posted by: Threatch Jeamp8135 || 09/19/2017 17:58 Comments || Top||


Clinton won't rule out questioning legitimacy of election
[THEHILL] Hillary Clinton said she wouldn’t rule out challenging the legitimacy of the 2016 presidential election if Russian interference turned out to be deeper than previously thought.

“No, I wouldn't rule it out,” she said in an interview with NPR published Monday.

The defeated Democratic nominee stressed, however, that she does not believe there is a means to officially challenge the election’s outcome.

“I don't know if there's any legal, constitutional way to do that,” Clinton said. “I think you can raise questions.”

Clinton has repeatedly blamed Russia’s efforts to intervene in last year’s election for her loss to Donald Trump, but her latest comments reflect the depth of her frustration with the Kremlin’s efforts.

They come as special counsel Robert Mueller is investigating the election-meddling campaign that U.S intelligence agencies say was done to benefit Trump, and whether any of the president’s associates colluded with Moscow.

“[Trump] knew they were trying to do whatever they could to discredit me with emails, so there's obviously a trail there,” Clinton said. “I don't know that in our system we have any means of doing that, but I just wanted to add to the point you made. There's no doubt they influenced the election: We now know more about how they did that.”
Posted by: Fred || 09/19/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [14 views] Top|| File under:

#1  More spoon banging in the main dining complex. Can't someone get her a tart? She likes tarts.

My guess, and only a guess, is that she suffered a stroke sometime during the election. Her judgement, dodgy before, is now suffering irreversible confusement.

A half-master, both her and McCane, possibly a few more. There's no escaping Father Time.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/19/2017 0:35 Comments || Top||

#2  She likes tarts.

Heh, I thought Bill was the one that liked tarts.

Look, this is becoming tiresome. And worse, it's bad sportsmanship, which is completely un-American. Every four years, we have an election. Regularly. You can set your calendar by it. And each time, the outcome is hotly contested with each party predicting the End of Civilization if the other side wins.
Invariably, one side or the other *does* win and there is a bit of pouting, but then everyone accepts the results, says "Nice game!" and goes home to prepare for the next outing. To do otherwise is bad manners.

I understand Hillary thought the fix was in and there was no way she could lose. But it's time to cowboy up. Nobody likes a sore loser.
Posted by: SteveS || 09/19/2017 3:27 Comments || Top||

#3  I also wouldn’t rule out challenging the legitimacy of the 2016 presidential election she cheated far more than is currently allowed spying on the Trump team, getting the dodgy dossier from Christopher Steele and getting the FBI to fund it, Detroits >100% votes.

She belongs in jail.

Posted by: Bright Pebbles || 09/19/2017 7:11 Comments || Top||

#4  BP, please locate Christopher for us whilst there is still time won't you? Lifeless in an Oxfordshire woodland, so obvious. Let's not let it happen to Christopher as well.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/19/2017 8:59 Comments || Top||

#5  She is completely losing it (like most of the left) and should be committed. Completely losing touch with reality.
Posted by: DarthVader || 09/19/2017 9:21 Comments || Top||

#6  She could be in a virtual vegetative state and the MSM would still attempt interviews.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/19/2017 9:26 Comments || Top||

#7  Wouldn't it be more appropriate for her to stand on some sidewalk in the tourist district with a violin and a plastic cup?
Posted by: Pappy || 09/19/2017 10:12 Comments || Top||

#8  As long as nobody expects her to play violin.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 09/19/2017 10:41 Comments || Top||

#9  I wouldn't rule out questioning the legitimacy of her nomination.
Posted by: charger || 09/19/2017 11:02 Comments || Top||

#10  Perhaps we're now seeing what Bill has known and lived with for decades.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/19/2017 11:38 Comments || Top||

#11  Seems only last week she was saying she didn't consider her a candidate any longer.
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/19/2017 11:43 Comments || Top||

#12  Seems only last week she was saying she didn't consider her[self] a candidate any longer.

Because she considers herself an elected president.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/19/2017 11:46 Comments || Top||

#13  Clinton won't rule out questioning legitimacy of Bill's other children.

Clinton won't rule out questioning legitimacy of the Constitution.

Clinton won't rule out questioning legitimacy of her Yoga instructor's hetersexuality.

Clinton won't rule out questioning legitimacy of her own sexuality.

Clinton won't rule out questioning legitimacy of reported Chicago's murder statistics.

And for good measure. Clinton won't rule out questioning legitimacy of of Obama's birth nation.
Posted by: Woodrow || 09/19/2017 13:53 Comments || Top||

#14  Her loathsomeness knows no bounds. Wonder if any supporters will take note.
Posted by: regular joe || 09/19/2017 16:45 Comments || Top||

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Posted by: Anomalous Sources || 09/19/2017 18:06 Comments || Top||


#17  Will kind of feel sorry for Satan when she dies and she realizes she is in hell.
Posted by: Threatch Jeamp8135 || 09/19/2017 20:47 Comments || Top||


Here's Everything We Know So Far About The Trump Dossier
[Daily Caller] The uncorroborated dossier of opposition research about Donald Trump has become a key document in the investigation over whether the Trump campaign colluded with the Russian government during the presidential campaign last year.

Democrats have insisted that many claims made in the dossier, written by former British spy Christopher Steele, have been proven accurate. Republican lawmakers say otherwise, leading to a standoff between the two sides over the 35-page document, published by BuzzFeed News on Jan. 10.

Here is what we know about the salacious document.

Jan. 2010: Steele’s London-based intelligence firm, Orbis Business Intelligence, first hires opposition research firm Fusion GPS to work on an undisclosed project. Steele made this revelation in May 2017 in a court filing in London, where he is being sued by a Russian tech executive named in the dossier.

Sept. 2015: An anti-Trump Republican donor reportedly hires Fusion GPS to begin investigating Trump’s past. The donor has yet to be identified.

June 2016: As Trump ascends to the GOP nomination, the Republican donor leaves the Trump research project. Fusion GPS soon finds an unidentified Democratic ally of Hillary Clinton’s to take over the investigation. Fusion then hires Steele, a former MI6 agent with extensive experience in Moscow.

June 9: Members of the Trump campaign team meet at Trump Tower with a Russian lawyer and Russian-American lobbyist who have some connection to Fusion GPS. Donald Trump Jr. accepted the meeting after a friend offered to provide negative information about Hillary Clinton. Trump Jr. and the lawyer, Natalia Veselnitkaya, claim that the information regarded the Magnitsky Act, a sanctions law opposed by the Russian government.

Veselnitskaya was working alongside Fusion GPS last year to undercut the Magnitsky Act. There has been some speculation that the Trump Tower meeting is vaguely described in the dossier.

June 17: Sergei Millian, an alleged source in the dossier, meets in St. Petersburg, Russia with Oleg Deripaska, an ally of Vladimir Putin’s and a former client of then-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort. Millian, the head of the Russian-American Chamber of Commerce, has been identified as "Source D" and "Source E" in different memos in the dossier.
On and on it goes.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/19/2017 00:00 || Comments || Link || [11 views] Top|| File under:

#1  We know that Russians didn't actually interfere with voting machines - and therefore everything in this dossier is irrelevant.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/19/2017 6:39 Comments || Top||

#2  The Steele dossier was so salacious and unverifiable that high-level circulation became something of a challenge until of course, it was placed into the hands of Senator John McCain. An absolute stroke of genius that.

Even McCain was reluctant to be closely associated with the dossier, choosing rather to send trusted emissaries(s) to retrieve it, in yes London, for dissemination to the Soetoro regime.

The UK's intelligence services, home to some of the best sleuths in the world and certainly not pro-Russian, were also reluctant to discuss the dossier let alone comment on it's potential sources or validity.

The dossier served it's purpose of providing half-truths, lies, and linking Trump to the Russians. It likely also provided a foundation or justification for FISA snooping, bugging, etc.

All in all I'd judge, a good effort by the Deep State.

Posted by: Besoeker || 09/19/2017 7:52 Comments || Top||

#3  Factor in the DNC data-pull with the attendant modifications to its contents...
Posted by: Pappy || 09/19/2017 13:23 Comments || Top||

#4  My money says that McCain was the republican donor that started it all.....
Posted by: 49 Pan || 09/19/2017 14:54 Comments || Top||

#5  My money says that McCain was the republican donor that started it all.....

You bet on McCain. I'll bet on ¡Jeb! One of us will win.
Posted by: Abu Uluque || 09/19/2017 17:10 Comments || Top||

#6  You might have to split the pot.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/19/2017 17:19 Comments || Top||


Government
Biden rejects Silicon Valley calls for universal basic income, ‘no strings attached' cash
[Wash Times] Former Vice President Joe Biden says tech titans like Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg and Tesla CEO Elon Musk are fundamentally misunderstanding the importance of work by calling for a "universal basic income."

A blog posted published by the University of Delaware’s Biden Institute on Monday unveiled a "worker first" initiative that rejects "no strings attached" policies prompted by influential billionaires while also fueling speculation about a possible 2020 U.S. presidential run by the former vice president.

"Economic transformations due to rapid advances in technology have created not only significant anxiety but also a legitimate debate about whether there will be sufficient jobs to sustain a vibrant middle class," Mr. Biden’s piece began.

"Some argue that these changes won’t lead to significant net job loss, so we need not worry. Others argue the risks are so great we should close up our borders to minimize the damage. One idea that has gained prominence, particularly among leaders in Silicon Valley, is universal basic income. The theory is that automation will result in so many lost jobs that the only plausible answer is some type of guaranteed government check with no strings attached."

Former President Obama’s right-hand man in the White House continued by saying that work is a virtue that brings with it an intrinsic value going beyond a paycheck.
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/19/2017 01:47 || Comments || Link || [15 views] Top|| File under:

#1  Joe Biden's opinion is of absolutely no consequence. He is simply the trial balloon handler. The so-called 'Universal Basic Income' (UBI) is the pathway to elimination of Social Security.

While it's not being discussed, in the end you can bet your arse UBI will be.... NEEDS BASED !
Posted by: Besoeker || 09/19/2017 1:54 Comments || Top||

#2  ...money for nothin' and your chicks for free...
Posted by: M. Murcek || 09/19/2017 10:04 Comments || Top||

#3  Mack Reynolds to the white courtesy phone.
Posted by: g(r)omgoru || 09/19/2017 10:38 Comments || Top||

#4  I'm not sure what the answer is (work is sort of vital to self-esteem) but at some point a large number of jobs will be replaced by robotics. What does society do at that point? Are we all confident that enough new jobs will appear as jobs are taken over by robots?
Posted by: rjschwarz || 09/19/2017 11:45 Comments || Top||

#5  There will always be an adjustment period, but the market will adapt.

There was a huge disruption of local economies with the industrial revolution, but people adapted and moved where new jobs were.

Robots will take over menial jobs and people and the market will adapt.
Posted by: DarthVader || 09/19/2017 12:08 Comments || Top||

#6  Biden likes strings. He assumes he will be the one holding them.
Posted by: Iblis || 09/19/2017 15:57 Comments || Top||

#7  Biden likes strings. He assumes he will be the one holding them.

OK. Registered citizens only.
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/19/2017 16:39 Comments || Top||

#8  I dislike the idea, but not for the reasons I suspect Biden doesn't like the idea. I don't think the silicon valley technogarches who have floated the idea are serious about it. They want to have _just enough_ of it to where people can still afford to buy their products but the technogarches still aspire to a society where they get to be Big Swinging [redacted] but the rest of us don't, especially if we work in sinful industries like real energy.
Posted by: Thing From Snowy Mountain || 09/19/2017 18:06 Comments || Top||

#9  In order to afford a "Universal Basic Income", there will also be a "[Nearly]Universal Maximum Income". Only those in favor with the government will be able to make more than, say, 50% over the UBI.

But if you have a senator in your pocket, you'll be ROLLING in cash!
Posted by: Rob Crawford || 09/19/2017 19:12 Comments || Top||

#10  Nice pitch to the unthinking unwashed but simply devaluing currency.
Posted by: Skidmark || 09/19/2017 19:38 Comments || Top||

#11  Will Silicon Valley fund it in total? I thought not. Fuck them
Posted by: Frank G || 09/19/2017 20:08 Comments || Top||



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Tue 2017-09-19
  Al-Qaeda battles it out with ISIS across Idlib province
Mon 2017-09-18
  Zeenat ul Islam to be new Lashkar-e-Taiba commander in Kashmir
Sun 2017-09-17
  Egypt court upholds ex-president Morsi's life sentence
Sat 2017-09-16
  Lebanon arrests 19 people suspected of belonging to ISIS
Fri 2017-09-15
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Thu 2017-09-14
  Girl strapped with bomb kills 5 in Cameroon mosque
Wed 2017-09-13
  US forces have failed in Afghanistan, Pakistan’s FM claims
Tue 2017-09-12
  Islamic State perform ‘farewell prayer’ preparing to leave Hawija
Mon 2017-09-11
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  Rohingya exodus to Bangladesh nears 300,000
Sat 2017-09-09
  300 ISIS fighters stranded in the desert, as bait to target jihadists
Fri 2017-09-08
  US warplanes takes out ISIS members running to stranded convoy
Thu 2017-09-07
  Two arrested after 'bomb factory' discovered near Paris
Wed 2017-09-06
  Insurgents call Rohingyas to arms for war in Myanmar
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  US-backed Syrian militias seize Great Mosque of Raqqah from Daesh


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